[00:23] <_marx_> well i think i like the classic better [00:24] <_marx_> have to try w/vbox running see if there are display oddities [00:24] is there some magic I need to do so that Ubuntu doesn't take up gobs and gobs of CPU time when copying, moving, or deleting files? Even on a headless system, just deleting a bunch of files has bumped my load average to close to "3". [00:26] <_marx_> Italian_Plumber: i've only seen that when using nautilus [00:26] hmm [00:27] <_marx_> you mean between hosts? [00:27] no ... on the local hd [00:28] well it's coming down now. it's still been close to 2 for the last 10 minutes [00:29] <_marx_> 2%? [00:29] no .. the load average... the 10 minute load average is 1.87 [00:29] and it's taken about that long to delete all these files. [00:30] now it's done and then 1 minute load average is plummetting [00:30] <_marx_> top htop [00:31] hmm... must be something else... now it's creeping back up again and it's done deleting the files. [00:32] * _marx_ fixin' to move a devel drupal site from vbox server to iron server [00:33] <_marx_> this will also test for display garbage on natty classic [00:34] <_marx_> using vbox on unity i have black blocks and distorted alt text on the launcher [00:45] <_marx_> Italian_Plumber: what were you using to monitor load? [00:49] top [00:49] and w [00:53] I think that other factors were in play though, since the load was still high even after the copying was done. [01:20] date [01:29] ah, don't know how to reconnect to a byobu session [15:13] unity in the house? !! [15:16] * holstein is looking for a nice dual head card [15:16] any suggestions? [15:16] gaming is not important [15:16] if there were an intel PCIe graphics card [15:16] id get it [15:17] i just need something preferebly out of the box easy [15:17] maybe with 3d supported by the open driver [15:17] dual vga out [15:17] PCIe [15:19] * holstein looking @ http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames [16:03] ello all [16:04] junior_: o/ [16:05] i come in hopes of getting some help with unbuntu. i have a gateway dx 4200 and want to install ubuntu as a dual boot. [16:06] cool [16:06] junior_: what are you planning on installing? [16:06] 10.04? [16:06] 11.04? [16:07] 11.04 [16:07] have you downloaded an image? [16:07] and burned it? [16:07] yes and made a bootable usb [16:08] junior_: with unetbootin? [16:09] i boot from usb and i get a sceen asking me if i want to run from usb install ubuntu to a hard drive , memory check and i forget the other option. i select install ubuntu to a drive and it goes to a black screen and runs a series of checks and what not after a few minutes i get a total black screen with no typing or anything [16:09] junior_: have you tried it live? [16:10] you should always try it live first [16:10] it wont try live either [16:10] thats a great and easy troubleshooting step [16:10] right [16:10] SO [16:10] thats what you need to troubleshoot [16:10] THEN, you'll know how to install [16:10] ive tryed live and it wont boot into ubuntu [16:10] junior_: right [16:10] i got it :) [16:11] SO, let me make a few suggestions [16:11] because, you'll need to figure out how to get the live environment booted [16:11] then, insatlling will be easier [16:11] junior_: did you make the USB with unetbootin? [16:12] i used the universal usb installer from the ubuntu download page [16:12] OK [16:12] while its booting up [16:13] you want to try and get to the old splash screen [16:13] where you can hit F4 i think it is [16:13] and try selecting nomodeset [16:14] if i were you [16:14] i would DL the 10.04 LTS image [16:14] burn an actual CD [16:14] and try that live [16:14] when its booting you can hit shift [16:15] and get to those options [16:15] ok ill have to run to the store quickly for sum blanks. cd or dvd ? [16:16] cd [16:16] you can try the USB boot [16:16] i would use unetbootin* [16:16] *should* work fine [16:17] 10.04 lts is the version i should select for download? [16:17] thats up to you [16:17] BUT, thats what i would do [16:18] should i go with 32 bit or 64 bit. i have a amd phenom 9550 quad core 64 bit [16:18] thats up to you too [16:18] i have both [16:18] not really any deal breakers anyways [16:19] if you have 4+gb's of ram [16:19] you probably want the 64 [16:19] ok let me ask this. when i run 32 bit windows the os only sees half of my ram. will 32bit ubuntu do the same? [16:19] you can use a PAE kernel [16:19] in 32bit [16:19] *assuming the motherboard supports it [16:19] and it probably does [16:20] i would just go 64 [16:20] ok so i selected 1.01_Live_x64 from the drop down on unetbootin [16:20] ? [16:20] i wouldnt [16:20] 10.04 [16:20] i would just go DL the image [16:20] and point unet to it [16:20] manually [16:20] ok [16:21] but, eitherway will probably be fine* [16:21] im d/l from ubuntu site 10.04 lts 64bit [16:22] junior_: thats what i would try next [16:22] if i were you [16:22] i think you'll have a better chance of troubleshooting that installation [16:24] see i think i my hard drive may have a problem in the boot sector of my hard drive. i went through i little spat with a keylogger infection on my system and reformatted and reinstalled windows probably 10 in 1 weekend about 2 weeks ago. i canstantly get blue sceens when i reboot [16:24] junior_: you should test that [16:24] but, you should be able to get to a desktop [16:24] from the live CD [16:24] thats with the hard drive unplugged even* [16:25] that'll give you an idea of what all hardware is supported [16:25] so you dont get surprised after you install it [16:25] i see that all the time [16:25] ' i wiped windows and install ubuntu' [16:25] and x doesnt work [16:25] and i ask how did it run live [16:25] and i get *crikets* [16:26] its too easy not to use that as a troubleshooting step [16:26] there is a disk utility in the ubuntu menu [16:27] you can use that live* [16:27] i also use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ [16:27] to test hard drivers [16:27] and other hardware [16:27] you'll want to sort that out before installing ubuntu i say [16:27] i mean, ubuntu is great [16:27] but its not magic [16:27] if you have a bad hard driver [16:27] if you have a bad hard drive* [16:27] you'll want to diagnose, and repair/replace [16:30] what should i use to burn the iso to a disk? [16:31] im on windows 7. just right click the iso and burn? [16:32] junior_: you want to copy the disc image [16:32] i dont know about win7 [16:32] but just make sure your not burning a date disc [16:32] with the image [16:32] you need to copy the disc [16:32] with the iso image as the source [16:32] junior_: unetbootin will work though [16:34] unetbootin is only giving me usb options [16:34] right... [16:34] you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB stick [16:34] if you dont have discs [16:34] you dont *have* to run out and buy discs [16:35] unless its just not working well [16:35] usb boo* [16:35] anyways... im running out [16:35] try #ubuntu-beginners if you need some help [16:35] and no one is around [16:35] junior_: are you near asheville? [16:35] - hit me up if you are, and cant sort out the issues... [16:36] mikeh789 "at the gmail" .com [16:36] ok i just got an error sevnz.exe there is no dosk in the drive please insert a disk into drive \device\harddisk2\dr2 [16:39] k nvm i selected the wrong drive label for the usb [16:45] ok its done making the bootable usb... i reboot and hit f4 or hold shift?? [19:13] hello [22:33] im having trouble with my ubuntu install and i cant seen to find anything to help in the support pages [23:04] * _marx_ has read some scrollback [23:09] <_marx_> wellhell display analomy in "classic" as well when using vbox; guess 2 G ram just isn't enough [23:09] _marx_: what about unity-2d ? [23:11] <_marx_> haven't tried that; i suspect low ram to video, intel on mobo video [23:11] <_marx_> or something in virtualbox [23:12] <_marx_> both are fine until i use vbox [23:15] junior: you get sorted? [23:15] yes and no lol [23:15] im running live right now so thats a plus [23:16] * _marx_ saw junior johnson the other day :)) [23:16] yeah [23:16] thats a step in the right direction... need to reboot [23:16] <_marx_> i'll stick to my day job [23:16] im juggling some data today [23:16] got some new hard drives :) [23:16] BRB.. [23:20] insread of trying to go through install ubuntu side by side with windows i got a spare hard drive i had laying around disconnected the one with windows on it and proceeded to install buntu 10.04 ltsbut when it trys to boot from the hard drive i get an error saying theres no bootable media what not. i will note that im running live from the usb and when i click the install ubuntu icon on desktop it recognizes an install of ubuntu [23:29] <_marx_> junior: pata or sata [23:30] its an ata hard drive out of an older machie [23:30] machine* [23:30] cool [23:30] now you dont have to worry about ruining data [23:31] takes a long time to format a TB drive :/ [23:38] junior: if you can, go and get the exact error [23:38] and we can look it up [23:40] it doesn't give me an "error code" i go into boot menu and select the hard and it get a message saying theres nothing bootable on that disk to insert bootable media and reboot [23:41] wow im trying really hard to spell correctly and i end up looking like i dont know how to speak english [23:46] junior: hehe [23:46] well, get the exact sentence [23:46] like 'no bootable media' [23:46] whatever [23:47] double check in the bios [23:47] i can take a pic with my phone? [23:47] lol [23:47] make sure that HD is the first boot [23:47] ok will do [23:47] brb [23:47] junior: whatever it takes :)