[00:05] <Unit193> How old are they?
[00:10] <dmcglone1> my son Kyle is 11, Heather is 10, and Amy is 9
[00:12] <dmcglone1> They are all 1 year, 1 month and 2 days apart
[00:12] <Cheri703> Unit193: do you know if you can come thursday?
[00:12] <Cheri703> If no one is going to show up again, I might just cancel it :/
[00:13] <Cheri703> it's a hassle on my friends who give me a ride home
[00:14] <Unit193> When did I say that? My friend thinks he can go
[00:14] <Cheri703> no, I didn't say you weren't, I'm just saying IF no one can, then I'd cancel
[00:14] <Cheri703> ok, cool :)
[00:14] <Cheri703> it's worth the effort if I KNOW someone will be there
[00:15] <jgould> I would have been at the UH in columbus, but I slept through ti
[00:19] <Unit193> Cheri703: I don't know for sure. He said he would call if he can't go
[00:19] <Cheri703> Unit193: are wednesdays good for you?
[00:19] <Unit193> Cheri703: \Nor for him
[00:20] <Cheri703> it's looking like monday or wednesday will be the preferred day (by majority), do those not work for you?
[00:21] <Unit193> Doesn't really matter if majority works
[00:21] <Cheri703> well, I'd hope you can still come!
[01:31] <canthus13> Cheri703: Think you'll be able to send me a pic from the airport?
[01:31] <Cheri703> probably...I now have a ride lined up :)
[01:32] <Cheri703> I'll make sure it's in my carry-on bag
[01:36] <canthus13> Yay!
[01:36] <canthus13> It'd suck to bike your way down there. :)
[01:36] <Cheri703> heh, yes, yes it would
[01:37] <Cheri703> I'll try to get a tsa person to pose with sully if I can ;) not sure I'll be able to, but if it's slow, I'll try
[01:38] <Cheri703> \o/ there is a tim horton's in the airport!!
[01:38]  * Cheri703 has been craving a tim horton's breakfast sandwich and a cruller *drooool*
[01:38] <canthus13> Cool!
[01:39] <Cheri703> didn't want to impose on my ride to have her swing me by a TH store :) so this is wonderful
[01:40] <Cheri703> canthus13: email me so I have your address, and I'll try to send pics as I go and have wifi
[01:54] <Unit193> dmcglone1: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:23
[01:54] <Unit193> Everyone else: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:02
[01:56] <dmcglone1> whats up with that Unit193?
[01:57] <Unit193> sabdfl = Mark Shuttleworth
[01:57] <Unit193> He was talking about Gnome 3 in Ubuntu
[01:59] <dmcglone1> I caught that :-)
[01:59] <dmcglone1> he must have come to his senses ;-)
[02:04] <canthus13> Cheri703: Ok. :)
[02:46] <Cheri703> made progress on packing :) more to do, but taking a break :)
[02:47] <Unit193> I packed one time, than forgot my bag...
[02:48] <Cheri703> I'm in the "gathering stuff" phase
[02:52] <canthus13> Unit193: I packed and forgot underwear for a week long trip once... Had to buy underwear when I got there. :/
[02:52] <canthus13> Cheri703: I usually do all that the night before. :)
[02:53] <Unit193> +1 night before... day of...
[02:53] <canthus13> Unit193: My wife waits 'til the day of.... so we usually end up leaving 6 or 8 hours late. :/
[02:54] <Unit193> (Sorry Cheri) Women can't do that...
[02:54] <Unit193> Most*
[02:55] <Cheri703> yeah canthus13, I'm doing most of it in advance, but some stuff is in use til I leave, and I'm still running laundry, so the last bits of it will be friday night, and it will ALL be packed and ready (except for my phone) so I can wake up, get dressed and go out the door :)
[02:59] <Cheri703> can someone ping me if jgould shows up?
[03:00] <Unit193> Cheri703: Sure
[03:00] <Cheri703> thanks
[03:00] <Unit193> If I'm here!!
[03:42] <Cheri703> sometimes I want to comment on people's fb statuses, but I know they'll have a hissy fit so I don't....
[03:43] <Unit193> When people ask questions in #lubuntu or #xubuntu (How do I do...)  my first thought? "Magic!"
[03:44] <Cheri703> yeah, but that's annoying to them and discourages them from seeking out help
[03:44] <Unit193> I have never done it! I just want to....
[03:46] <Cheri703> :)
[04:15]  * canthus13 drools.
[04:15] <Cheri703> ?
[04:16] <canthus13> shrimp stir fry. :)
[04:16] <Unit193> canthus13: Can I come over?
[04:16] <canthus13> Unit193: Sure. Bring more stir fry. :)
[04:18] <Unit193> canthus13: Would you mind putting OLF on the Google cal? (I can't seem to remember when it is in sept)
[04:19] <canthus13> I would if I knew when it was.
[04:20] <Unit193> Cheri703: ?
[04:20] <Cheri703> are you asking me about OLF?
[04:20] <Cheri703> it's 9-11 I think
[04:23] <Unit193> Drat! Can't find it...
[04:24] <Cheri703> http://ohiolinux.org/
[04:26] <Unit193> Cheri703: Thanks! (I was thinking 9 = Sept 11= 2011 :P )
[04:26] <Cheri703> heh
[04:30] <Unit193> Added! Now for ubucon...
[04:34] <Unit193> Cheri703: jgould is back!
[04:34] <Cheri703> thanks :)
[04:34] <Cheri703> jgould, I have a link for you, one sec
[04:35] <Cheri703> jgould: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2918
[04:36] <Cheri703> didn't know if that'd be helpful at all
[04:37] <jgould> stupid router
[04:48] <Cheri703> what's it doing?
[04:49] <Unit193> Bodyslamming him agenst the wall...
[04:52] <jgould> No, something higer powered will knock it off the air, and it takes the whole network down, including the wired stuff
[04:55] <jgould> Ok,  I've been using the same kernel all night without an issue. I'm still getting my error message according to my dmesg logs, but I haven't installed ndiswrapper and added in my wireles... I'm now wondering if my bug report is invalid, and it's ndiswrapper that is doing it
[05:02] <canthus13> jgould: Tried changing channels on the router?
[05:06] <jgould> Yep
[05:14] <jgould> This is an ndiswrapper problem...
[05:16] <jgould> How do you get rid of plymouth?
[05:20] <canthus13> A hammer.
[05:20] <canthus13> I don't think you can actually remove plymouth... not easily, anyway.
[05:20] <canthus13> ...or maybe you can.
[05:22] <canthus13> Nope. can't remove it.
[05:23] <canthus13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451592&page=2
[05:27] <jgould> can you manually remove something that was added to a system if you can't get it to boot?  (eg. nidswrapper
[05:28] <canthus13> Hmm.. I suppose you could chroot into the system from a live CD and uninstall it.  I haven't done it in years, though...
[05:28] <canthus13> paultag would know more about that than me.
[05:29] <jgould> how do you do that?  I think it would almost be faster for me to just reinstal the system (again)
[05:30] <canthus13> Basically, you boot a live CD, mount the hard drive, then convince the running Live system that it's really the hard drive system, then fix what you need to fix.
[05:31] <canthus13> http://superuser.com/questions/110913/repair-ubuntu-installation
[05:32] <canthus13> chroot howto:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[05:33] <canthus13> Not sure if knoppix will boot on your mac or not, though.
[05:39] <jgould> lets see if the chroot fixed it
[05:40] <jgould> ok... back to a working system
[05:41] <Cheri703> :)
[05:41] <Cheri703> anyone here use gwibber?
[05:41] <jgould> Can't say I do
[05:42] <canthus13> I did for a few days.. I didn't like it using > 1GB ram.
[05:42] <canthus13> Of course, that was over a year ago...
[05:42] <Cheri703> is "button faded looking" or "button richer looking" the indication for selected? on the "send using x account" buttons...if that makes sense
[05:43] <Cheri703> if I click it, it changes, but it doesn't say "this is on, this is off"
[05:43] <Cheri703> so...I have no idea
[05:47] <jgould> Every time you click that some guy in china's lights go on and off...
[05:48] <Cheri703> probably
[05:52] <jgould> hmm...  I still don't have wireless, but I do have a system that will boot...
[05:54] <Cheri703> progress!
[05:57] <jgould> just a little bit
[06:03] <jgould> I can't make up my mind between Xubutnu or Ubuntu with Gnome Classic
[06:05] <Cheri703> I heart gnome
[06:06] <jgould> There's things that I like about both,  and things that I don't like about both.  I do know that Unity got on my nerves...
[06:22] <jgould> Ok, so I have a laptop system that I can't take anywhere... Heh
[06:23] <Cheri703> hehe
[06:23] <Cheri703> could try a wireless adapter?
[06:23] <jgould> Could, but that's one more thign to carry
[06:24] <Cheri703> eh, I have a little teeny thumb drive one
[06:25] <jgould> what brand is it?
[06:26] <Cheri703> zonet
[06:26] <Cheri703> got it at microcenter
[06:26] <jgould> what chipset is it?
[06:26] <Cheri703> *shrug* no idea
[06:27] <jgould> did it just work when you plugged it in?
[06:27] <Cheri703> not in 10.04, but in 10.10 and 11.04 it does
[06:30] <jgould> I'm running 11.04   Taht may be a solution for the mean time, until the community figures out the drives for this bcm4331
[06:31] <Cheri703> http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0311865
[06:32] <jgould> I'm looking at it.
[06:32] <Cheri703> it was happy on newer ubuntu :)
[06:33] <Unit193> I have a device that uses rt73usb!
[06:33] <jgould> I think my next laptop will be a machine from System76
[07:04]  * jgould works on settign up NFS
[07:24] <jgould> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:24] <jgould> er
[07:24] <canthus13> :D
[07:26] <jgould> if I add a line to my fstab, the drive will get mounted at boot, correct
[07:51] <canthus13> Yes.
[08:00] <jgould> what if I added the user option?  (also, what happens if mountd cant access the server?
[08:07] <canthus13> Not sure about the user option.. If it can't access the server, it skips after a couple of tries.
[08:07]  * canthus13 uses NFS mounts all the time.
[08:07] <canthus13> I've never used the user option.
[08:08] <canthus13> I use something like this:
[08:08] <canthus13> 192.168.1.4:/root/sdb1 /home/canthus13/Bob/sdb1 nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,auto
[08:10] <jgould> I was afraid that it would have a fit if the server wasnt' there
[08:11] <canthus13> Nah. It just gives up, notes it in the log, and moves to the next mount. It might slow boot down a bit.
[08:11] <canthus13> Not much, though.. I think it adds about 10 seconds to boot time if the server is down.
[08:13] <jgould> I have my srv directory on the server exported.  That was easier than tryign to set ro/rw premissions on each subdir...
[08:13] <canthus13> I have different shares for different things.. My kids have certain folders mounted on the media server with stuff appropriate for them. :)
[08:14] <jgould> It's just my wife and I so I can get away with it (and I'm really the only one that writes to the server...)
[08:15] <canthus13> :)
[08:15] <canthus13> My wife also has a separate share on the server for her own stuff, since her old laptop only had a 20gb drive on it... and she uses two different machines on a regular basis.
[08:17] <jgould> I'm debating doing that if I switch completly over to Ubuntu.  What would be an easy way to keep a laptop and the server in sync.  I've tried rsync (but have never gotten it to wrok right...)
[08:19] <canthus13> rsync.
[08:20] <canthus13> THere are frontends available, like grsync... but for it to be automagic, rsync and cron.
[08:21] <canthus13> rsync is simple enough to use to sync a single folder...  The problem comes when you start to sync multiple machines to the same folder.
[08:22] <jgould> The only machine that would need an offline copy is the laptop,  everything else can stay online
[08:23]  * canthus13 only uses rsync for his music collection, and runs it manually whenever he needs to sync stuff.
[08:28] <canthus13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343647
[08:28] <jgould> I need to add a gigabit networking card to the server...
[08:29]  * canthus13 needs gigabit networking. :/
[08:30] <canthus13> My server has a gbit port, but it's running through a 100Mbit switch.
[08:36]  * jgould prints the thread and attaches it to the wall
[08:36] <jgould> both of my macs are gbit on wired.  it beats the hell out of 100mbit when I'm trying to do backups
[08:42] <canthus13> Wow. My file server's CPU temp is 26C... I don't think I've ever seen an AMD processor that cool before... Not a working one, anyway..
[08:42] <jgould> I think I may go pick up one of the wireless dongles htat Cheri's got...
[08:43] <BiosElement> Woot for everyone STILL awake
[08:44] <Cheri703> jgould: it's pretty handy to have around
[08:44] <Unit193> BiosElement: Yep! I'm still setting up SliTaz for PXE
[08:44] <Cheri703> I don't use it very often, but I have a spare laptop that has a jacked up wireless card
[08:44] <Cheri703> also nice if our internet is down and husband wants to connect desktop to neighbor wifi :)
[08:45] <BiosElement> Hah, being up this late inspires great coding feats for me
[08:45] <canthus13> beh.
[08:45]  * canthus13 is just awake because he can't sleep. :(I
[08:45] <jgould> My servr is running at 42C right now... But I'm encoding a DVD
[08:45] <BiosElement> Just replaced a python plugin framework with a custom-rolled system to remove a dependency, took me a week of pondering and I couldn't figure out how to do it, took me 10 minutes to do now. >.<
[08:45] <canthus13> and dongle always makes me smirk... for some reason it associates with 'dingleberry' in my mind.
[08:46] <canthus13> jgould: I'd be thrilled if my laptop ever ran that cool. :)
[08:46] <jgould> Heh
[08:48] <jgould> Hmm... My laptop doens't list Thermal as an apci option...
[08:48] <canthus13> Truthfully, though.. this laptop is cooler than my old HP. that one used to keep me warm during the winter.
[08:49] <canthus13> jgould: Install sensors, use the sensors command for temps.
[08:50] <canthus13> err... Hmm. mine doesn't show it either now that I'm using the liquorix kernel. :/  that must be why conky is no longer showing the CPU temp.
[08:51] <Unit193> My computer boots into Memtest when I select the liquorix kernel...
[08:52] <canthus13> Weird... sounds like a grub issue. :/
[08:52] <Unit193> I know it's not really a liquorix one...
[08:53] <canthus13> Unit193: Natty?
[08:53] <Unit193> Yep! (X)
[08:53] <canthus13> Hmm...
[08:56] <Unit193> As long as SliTaz can mount local disks, fixing it should be even faster now!
[08:59] <Cheri703> good night boys, I'm off to bed :)
[08:59] <jgould> Night
[09:00] <jgould> I think I'm heading to bed too.  Night guys
[09:02] <BiosElement> Heh, so am I.
[09:02] <BiosElement> Nighty night folks
[09:03] <Unit193> Just me?
[09:06] <canthus13> I'm debating bed... I'm tired, but I can't sleep. :/
[09:12] <Unit193> Stay on for a little longer then try again...
[09:13] <canthus13> I will...
[10:20] <Unit193> That would have been a good idea...
[13:45] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[14:43] <thafreak> What'd I miss
[15:04]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs, about as much as I have...
[17:22] <Cheri703> canthus13: sully has arrived!
[17:38] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[17:40] <Cheri703> canthus13 sent me his coworker's sully (from monsters inc) toy so I can take it to budapest and take pictures of it
[17:44] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[17:45] <deejoe> is there a connection?
[17:45] <Cheri703> no, he just took it and was taking pictures of it in random places a la garden gnome
[17:45] <deejoe> or is this a more generic travelling-gnome/flat-stanley sort of thing?
[17:45] <deejoe> haha, right
[17:45] <canthus13> Cheri703: Wow.  I mailed him last night.
[17:46] <Cheri703> yeah :)
[17:46] <Cheri703> adding him to my packing list :)
[17:46] <canthus13> deejoe: Exactly.  He's going to Mexico with another co-worker in a couple of weeks. :)
[17:47] <deejoe> fun
[17:48] <Cheri703> depending on how friendly the tsa people are (HA), I may try to put his arms up and get a pic by/in front of the whole body scanner :)
[17:48] <canthus13> deejoe: I hung him with some mardi gras beads on his owner's desk, left a suicide note.  So dude decided to put him in a 'coffin' with a eulogy written on a whiteboard.  He was going to have him 'rise' on easter.  So I swiped him the night before and left a note saying he faked his death... then sent him a picture from sully's gmail account of sully participating in an easter egg hunt....
[17:48] <canthus13> Cheri703: That would be awesome. :)
[17:49] <deejoe> pictures at sensitive locations tend to draw unwanted attention
[17:49] <canthus13> deejoe: a few days later, I sent a pic of sully entering a bar... and the next morning, a picture of sully cuddled up to a naked GI Joe doll in the gutter.
[17:49] <Cheri703> eh, people take pictures at security all the time, and I would ask first
[17:49] <canthus13> deejoe: People take pictures, videos, post them everywhere of the TSA molesting people.
[17:50] <canthus13> deejoe: They might like the publicity.  Heck, a dude printed a poster-sized boarding pass and had a TSA agent pose with it.
[17:50] <deejoe> I was at jury duty last week and took some pix of public art and of a very cool art-deco brass elevator status panel and was approached about it by the sheriff's folks who are there.
[17:50] <canthus13> deejoe: local cops are very self-important.
[17:50] <deejoe> canthus13: mind you, that's TSA.  this is an international trip.
[17:51] <canthus13> deejoe: ...which is still the TSA at the airport.  But I'm sure Cheri703 has more common sense than me and won't get into trouble. :)
[17:51] <deejoe> canthus13: only TSA at the *US* airports
[17:51] <canthus13> deejoe: True.
[17:51] <deejoe> there are at least two ends to an intn'l flight :-)
[17:51] <canthus13> Hungarian security might be a little different.
[17:51] <canthus13> (Probably more lax, actually..)
[17:51] <deejoe> see also, connections
[17:52] <deejoe> I wouldn't count on it at Heathrow, for instance.
[17:52] <Cheri703> cmh > jfk > bud   bud > jfk > cmh
[17:52]  * canthus13 likes jury duty. "I don't like him. he looks funny. I think he's guilty."
[17:52] <Cheri703> only one stop, stateside :)
[17:52] <deejoe> oh, cool, connection on this side.
[17:52] <canthus13> Cheri703: Nice.
[17:52] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm very ok with it since it's my first international trip :)
[17:52]  * canthus13 last went through heathrow in 1981.
[17:53] <canthus13> ..No. 1983.  It was Halifax in 1981.
[17:54] <deejoe> been a while for me too
[17:54] <deejoe> well before T5
[18:00] <canthus13> Well.. Time to leave for work.
[19:22] <Cheri703> Unit193: are you guys for sure coming tonight?
[19:24] <Unit193> Cheri703: As far as I know...
[19:24] <Cheri703> k, then I'll plan to go :)
[19:29] <Unit193> You can call him at about 3:30 ;)
[19:32] <Cheri703> call who?
[19:33] <Unit193> EricR2427
[19:33] <Cheri703> can you call him? because I'll have to get on the bus at 4 if I'm going
[19:42] <jgould> ok.  We're online at Panera from Ubuntu!
[19:43] <jgould> Now I just need to get this trackpad to not be hyper responsive
[19:44] <Derath-Srvr> Which Panera?
[19:44] <jgould> Mill Run
[19:45] <Unit193> Cheri703: Called him yesterday and he said he would call if not
[19:45] <Cheri703> ok
[19:46] <Derath-Srvr> COlumbus area, or Mansfield?
[19:46] <jgould> Columbus.  West side
[19:46] <Derath-Srvr> Ah
[19:46] <BiosElement> Oh nice, LastPass proves they're incompetent. but doesn't bother mailing it's users.
[19:47] <jgould> Oh?
[19:47] <BiosElement> Their servers were "possibly" hacked
[19:47] <Derath-Srvr> Oh, the Hillard area, Hmm... wonder if we can talk gilbert to change locations over to there... how's the traffic? has to be better than the one beside OSU...
[19:48] <BiosElement> Their servers were misconfigured, didn't keep logs to figure out what happened and they're recommending master pass changes
[19:48] <jgould> Better than the one by OSU, and there is a community room over here
[19:48] <BiosElement> Screw that, I'm dumping it altogether. You run a password system without competent IT? Fail. >.>
[19:52] <BiosElement> Oh yes, and their servers are choking on the load.
[19:52] <jgould> Now to figure out my hyper sensitive trackpad...
[19:52] <Derath-Srvr> #gm Gnome, kde, other?
[19:52] <Derath-Srvr> sigh, ignore the #gm...
[19:52] <jgould> gnome
[19:52] <Derath-Srvr> wrong irc chan lol
[19:53] <jgould> ah
[19:53] <Derath-Srvr> I believe there's a setting in gnome's preference panel for the mouse sensativity
[19:53] <jgould> there is a specific driver for this damn trackpad
[19:54] <Derath-Srvr> mbp again?
[19:55] <jgould> Yep
[19:56] <jgould> but I'm working in Ubuntu on it now. I need to hunt down the line for the xorg file for it...
[19:56] <Derath-Srvr> Hmm... I still think that if you lower the sensitivity in the menu, should help...
[19:56] <Derath-Srvr> dunno though, since I haven't had that problem
[19:58] <jgould> It seems to have helped a little bit
[19:58] <Unit193> Blast LastPass
[19:59] <jgould> what exactly happendd?
[19:59] <Unit193> BiosElement said it ^^ (First I know of it...)
[20:00] <Derath-Srvr> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/lastpass-melts-down-and-leaves-many-users-hopefully-temporarily-stranded-without-their-passwords/10351
[20:00] <jgould> I didn't use them for password sync...
[20:01] <Derath-Srvr> never used them at all here...
[20:02] <jgould> I use them for bookmark sync.  This was before FF4 came out
[20:02] <Derath-Srvr> "Right now, the LastPass situation is a clusterfrak and represents another sad-but-true example of what happens when we depend on the cloud for our services."
[20:04] <BiosElement> jgould: They don't know what exactly happened
[20:04] <jgould> The cloud is a great idea, just not uet
[20:04] <jgould> er yet
[20:04] <BiosElement> No
[20:04] <BiosElement> They say they won't ever know
[20:04] <BiosElement> Because their servers were not keeping proper logs
[20:04] <jgould> I'm talking about the cloud.  Not Lastpass's fuck up
[20:05] <BiosElement> Ahh heh
[20:05] <BiosElement> Cloud is fine, as is. But you need competent people behind it
[20:05] <Derath-Srvr> Can't say that it's entire fail...
[20:06] <BiosElement> It's just like cars, sure some people crash into buildings, but it depends on the driver.
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> wrong way to notify clients, not enough infrastructure to handle the load, and when you're dealing with people who do not understand technology, it's hard NOT to incite a panic in that situation...
[20:07] <BiosElement> http://blog.lastpass.com/2011/05/lastpass-security-notification.html
[20:07] <BiosElement> Derath-Srvr: Thir blog FINALLY loaded, looks like they redirected it to blogger so the blog loads now
[20:07] <BiosElement> They're saying that they're sending notifications in batches to reduce server load
[20:07] <Derath-Srvr> adjusted load balancer maybe?
[20:09] <BiosElement> No, It's hosted on blogger now >.<
[20:11] <BiosElement> "we don't have very much data indicating what potentially happened and what attack vector could have been used and are continuing to investigate it"
[20:11] <Derath-Srvr> Well, it also takes a long time to sift through log files too... lol
[20:12] <BiosElement> The log files they already stated they don't have >.>
[20:12] <BiosElement> That's the thing
[20:12] <Derath-Srvr> Maybe not the easy ones... but I'm sure there was a database access, ssh log, or something...
[20:12] <BiosElement> Not only did it happen, but they're in the security business without logging like a ninja. >.<
[20:13] <BiosElement> Derath-Srvr: They tossed them after a short peroid of time
[20:13] <Derath-Srvr> More like looking like the Incas with a temple of gold huh?
[20:13] <BiosElement> If they didn't keep logs long enough, they'll never figure it out.
[20:14] <BiosElement> Disk space is cheap, log like a friggen ninja.
[20:15] <Cheri703> do ninjas log a lot?
[20:15] <Cheri703> I'd think it'd be "log like a lumberjack" ;)
[20:16] <Cheri703> or "log like a beaver"
[20:16] <Cheri703> or "log like abe lincoln"
[20:16] <Cheri703> or "log like a cabin"
[20:16]  * Cheri703 may be in a weird mood
[20:16] <BiosElement> Hah, someone's hyperish
[20:17] <Cheri703> regardless, mine make more sense
[20:17] <Unit193> But he got to use a Ninja!
[20:17] <BiosElement> Yep!
[20:17] <Cheri703> meh
[20:17] <BiosElement> Ninjas rule, Pirates Die.
[20:18] <Cheri703> BUT NINJAS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LOGS...unless you count the part in mulan where they're having to jump across the upended logs in their training while the "be a man" song is playing :)
[20:18] <Cheri703> but they weren't even training to be NINJAS, just soldiers
[20:18] <jgould> Heh
[20:19]  * BiosElement makes note to keep caffeine away from Cheri703
[20:19]  * jgould slips Cheri703 some coffee
[20:19] <Cheri703> hehe, I found the REAL SUGAR dr pepper at kroger yesterday /me is in heaven again :) but I am still on my first can for the day (and have been for a few hours)
[20:19] <jgould> damn lag
[20:19] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:20] <Derath-Srvr> "The cause for the anomaly could not be identified. Further investigation revealed that traffic was sent from a database which could not be accounted for either." So they had a rouge database on their network???
[20:20] <Cheri703> this is often what is going through my head as people say things, I just don't always put it into words :)
[20:20] <Derath-Srvr> wth? how could you not know there's another database on your network???
[20:20] <Unit193> BiosElement: KeePass?
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> sigh, whole thing is crazy, glad I don't use them...
[20:24] <BiosElement> Unit193: Yes, KeePass is great, but it won't work for ChromeOS
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> Or any of those aggregators actually...
[20:25] <BiosElement> Unit193: I use KeePass as my primary Pass store, LastPass was only ever secondary.
[20:27] <Derath-Srvr> http://keepass.info/plugins.html#chromeipass
[20:27] <Unit193> BiosElement: I take it KeePass plugins don't work with KeePassX? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ompiailgknfdndiefoaoiligalphfdae
[20:28] <jgould> I've thought about trying to build chromium...
[20:28] <BiosElement> Unit193: They should, but I haven't looked at it recently
[20:28] <BiosElement> and LMFAO!!!
[20:28] <BiosElement> "Sorry, we don't support your browser just yet. You'll need Google Chrome to install apps, extensions and themes."
[20:28] <BiosElement> ^I'm using Chrome :P
[20:28] <Unit193> Chromium?
[20:28] <BiosElement> Probably Win only
[20:29] <Derath-Srvr> Sorry to hear that Cheri...
[20:29] <jgould> The Google OS
[20:29] <jgould> The ting that BiosElement is runing on his CR-48
[20:30] <BiosElement> Technically they have pass sync, it just needs more work >.<
[20:32] <jgould> Hmm... Another issue.  after locking the screen and then unlocking it, the screen dims on battery power, even though I had it at full brightness before I locked it
[20:33] <Cheri703> jgould: mine does that EVERY TIME I unplug my cord, no matter how I have it set...so...that's a small one
[20:34] <jgould> at least the system remains functional through it
[20:35] <canthus13> That bug has been around for a long time.
[20:35] <canthus13> Worse is the one where the brightness reverses, and goes dim on A/C and full on battery.
[20:36] <jgould> Heh
[20:37] <Cheri703> canthus13: I'm already trying to plan out photo-ops for sully...want to get something communism related...
[20:38] <canthus13> :D
[20:40] <canthus13> Try to keep Ubuntu out of 'em for the most part.  He knows I"m involved with Ubuntu.
[20:40] <Cheri703> ok, good to know
[20:40] <Cheri703> do we not want him to know it was you? or?
[20:41] <jgould> Intersting... the install of evolution on the macbook doesn't give me the option to sync my calendars to google
[20:41] <canthus13> Not at this point.. :)
[20:42] <Cheri703> kk
[20:44] <canthus13> "I just had a wireless router installed and they left all the wires still plugged in!"
[20:45] <Cheri703> ha
[20:45] <Cheri703> ha
[20:45] <canthus13> Silly lady thought it meant we'd talk all the cabling out. :)
[20:45] <Cheri703> nice
[20:45] <Cheri703> I've had people think that
[20:47] <jgould> Silly lady
[20:50] <jgould> crap the other box with Ubuntu 11.04 on it went to sleep
[20:51] <canthus13> jgould: Throw frozen marbles under the covers. that'll wake it up.
[20:51] <jgould> Heh
[20:52] <jgould> I wonder if there is some addon package to Evoloution that I'm misssing that is causing me to not be able to sync the calendars to google
[21:01]  * Derath-Srvr shrugs
[21:02] <Derath-Srvr> I've been using tbird+lightning...
[21:02] <jgould> will it display in the menu bar?
[21:03] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: +1
[21:03] <Unit193> Or Alpine+gmail+Gcal...
[21:11] <jgould> that was not nice
[21:12] <Unit193> Eh?
[21:12] <jgould> I had the kernel crash
[21:13] <Unit193> Eh. Not fun...
[21:15] <jgould> in the logs, what are the numbers in the  brackets?
[21:16] <Unit193> pid?
[21:16]  * Unit193 doesn't seem to know
[21:17] <jgould> May  5 16:09:24 Abigail kernel: [   45.903309] cfg80211...
[21:18] <Unit193> I was looking at another number/log...
[21:18] <Unit193> Runtime?
[21:19] <jgould> Maybe, the number gets bigger the longer the system is up...
[21:23] <Derath-Srvr> it's related to uptime/runtime, but I can't remember exact formatting...
[21:24] <Derath-Srvr> i.e. if it's like the tick since boot or something...
[21:31] <jgould> thats what it looks like
[21:31] <Derath-Srvr> Checking
[21:37] <Derath-Srvr> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484475
[21:37] <Derath-Srvr> Ticks since init's start
[21:39] <Derath-Srvr> And confirmed... uptime in seconds...
[21:39] <Derath-Srvr> granted down to the what? microsecond?
[21:40] <Derath-Srvr> Wow, I was right on a guess... it was microsecond...
[21:41] <Unit193> Because I need to know what microsecond it failed!
[21:41] <Derath-Srvr> lol heck yeah!
[21:42] <jgould> that matters so much. LOL
[21:47] <Derath-Srvr> but isn't that why people run gentoo? just so they are idling 10 microsecs faster than anyone else?
[21:53] <jgould> We're heading out.  I'll be back as soon as I get home.
[21:53] <Derath-Srvr> Yeah, time for me to head home as well...
[21:54] <Derath-Srvr> thankfully, the traffic is always better going home thta going to work... lol
[21:54] <Derath-Srvr> err... than...
[22:04] <Unit193> ...and now my hand hurts
[22:21] <jgould> We're heading out.  I'll be back as soon as I get home.?
[22:21] <jgould> er
[22:21] <jgould> what did you do?
[22:22] <Unit193> Hit the desk hard and cut it on something (and made the monitor a bouncy ball :) )
[22:22] <jgould> that doesn't sound good
[22:23] <jgould> screen's multi-display mode: Very useful
[22:23] <Unit193> Eh, it stoped bleeding... (And I should only say headbang, not do it)
[22:24] <Unit193> screen is very nice!!
[22:24] <jgould> yes it is
[22:26] <Unit193> Thank the coders for file recovery!
[22:28]  * thafreak is installing windows 2008 server in kvm with virtio disks...
[22:28] <jgould> Now just to figure out how to invoke it on a ssh commadn os I that I can save some typing as I'm always reataching...  because running the command 'ssh jgould@claire screen -r" provides me with "Must be connected to a terminal"
[22:28] <thafreak> probably need to force allocation of a pty
[22:29] <Unit193> What distro?
[22:29] <thafreak> -t
[22:29] <Unit193> echo $TERM
[22:29] <thafreak> ssh -t "screen...."
[22:29] <thafreak> try that...
[22:29] <jgould> Ubuntu Natty (on the clients) Lucid Server on the, well, server
[22:30] <jgould> Yay!
[22:34] <thafreak> Anyone ever need to run winblows under kvm, fedora has signed virtio drivers for disk and network...
[22:44] <jgould> there is a way to lock a screen session, right
[22:48] <jgould>  Yes there is.  Cool
[22:54] <jgould> BiosElement: did that issue just affect LastPass or did it affect xmarks as well?
[23:00]  * jgould wonders where his mighty mouse is
[23:00] <Unit193> Still need to get Dropbox in Xubuntu...
[23:01]  * jgould blinks. "Yes, my computer does have bluetooth...  Otherwise I wouldn't be typing..."
[23:07] <jgould> Hmm... Need to boot into the Mac OS.  there is an update that I should install...
[23:16] <jgould> Any one know if Orca is on the liveCD?
[23:17] <Unit193> I wouldn't think so (You can install it if you have internet on LiveCD)
[23:18] <Cheri703> I believe it is jgould
[23:19] <Cheri703> there is a way to access an accessible installer (I'm told it's not great)
[23:21] <Unit193> It is installed by default!
[23:34] <jgould> it would make system managenment a lot easier.
[23:38]  * jgould would not give her the password for sudo activities...
[23:42] <jgould> damn mouse
[23:46] <Unit193> jgould: That's a good idea...
[23:49] <jgould> Heh
[23:49] <jgould> Why doesn't gmail's interface have an easy way to add a 'to' contact to the contact list
[23:52] <Cheri703> ?
[23:54] <jgould> I just tried to add the LoCo mailing list to my conatcts, but I could only add Jacob or Brian...
[23:54] <Unit193> Mailing list is in the CC
[23:55] <Unit193> Did you try to add the first msg?
[23:56] <jgould> It only gave me the option for Jacob.  I got it with copy/paste, but that should be fixed...