[00:05] How old are they? [00:10] my son Kyle is 11, Heather is 10, and Amy is 9 [00:12] They are all 1 year, 1 month and 2 days apart [00:12] Unit193: do you know if you can come thursday? [00:12] If no one is going to show up again, I might just cancel it :/ [00:13] it's a hassle on my friends who give me a ride home [00:14] When did I say that? My friend thinks he can go [00:14] no, I didn't say you weren't, I'm just saying IF no one can, then I'd cancel [00:14] ok, cool :) [00:14] it's worth the effort if I KNOW someone will be there [00:15] I would have been at the UH in columbus, but I slept through ti [00:19] Cheri703: I don't know for sure. He said he would call if he can't go [00:19] Unit193: are wednesdays good for you? [00:19] Cheri703: \Nor for him [00:20] it's looking like monday or wednesday will be the preferred day (by majority), do those not work for you? [00:21] Doesn't really matter if majority works [00:21] well, I'd hope you can still come! [01:31] Cheri703: Think you'll be able to send me a pic from the airport? [01:31] probably...I now have a ride lined up :) [01:32] I'll make sure it's in my carry-on bag [01:36] Yay! [01:36] It'd suck to bike your way down there. :) [01:36] heh, yes, yes it would [01:37] I'll try to get a tsa person to pose with sully if I can ;) not sure I'll be able to, but if it's slow, I'll try [01:38] \o/ there is a tim horton's in the airport!! [01:38] * Cheri703 has been craving a tim horton's breakfast sandwich and a cruller *drooool* [01:38] Cool! [01:39] didn't want to impose on my ride to have her swing me by a TH store :) so this is wonderful [01:40] canthus13: email me so I have your address, and I'll try to send pics as I go and have wifi [01:54] dmcglone1: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:23 [01:54] Everyone else: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:02 [01:56] whats up with that Unit193? [01:57] sabdfl = Mark Shuttleworth [01:57] He was talking about Gnome 3 in Ubuntu [01:59] I caught that :-) [01:59] he must have come to his senses ;-) [02:04] Cheri703: Ok. :) [02:46] made progress on packing :) more to do, but taking a break :) [02:47] I packed one time, than forgot my bag... [02:48] I'm in the "gathering stuff" phase [02:52] Unit193: I packed and forgot underwear for a week long trip once... Had to buy underwear when I got there. :/ [02:52] Cheri703: I usually do all that the night before. :) [02:53] +1 night before... day of... [02:53] Unit193: My wife waits 'til the day of.... so we usually end up leaving 6 or 8 hours late. :/ [02:54] (Sorry Cheri) Women can't do that... [02:54] Most* [02:55] yeah canthus13, I'm doing most of it in advance, but some stuff is in use til I leave, and I'm still running laundry, so the last bits of it will be friday night, and it will ALL be packed and ready (except for my phone) so I can wake up, get dressed and go out the door :) [02:59] can someone ping me if jgould shows up? [03:00] Cheri703: Sure [03:00] thanks [03:00] If I'm here!! [03:42] sometimes I want to comment on people's fb statuses, but I know they'll have a hissy fit so I don't.... [03:43] When people ask questions in #lubuntu or #xubuntu (How do I do...) my first thought? "Magic!" [03:44] yeah, but that's annoying to them and discourages them from seeking out help [03:44] I have never done it! I just want to.... [03:46] :) [04:15] * canthus13 drools. [04:15] ? [04:16] shrimp stir fry. :) [04:16] canthus13: Can I come over? [04:16] Unit193: Sure. Bring more stir fry. :) [04:18] canthus13: Would you mind putting OLF on the Google cal? (I can't seem to remember when it is in sept) [04:19] I would if I knew when it was. [04:20] Cheri703: ? [04:20] are you asking me about OLF? [04:20] it's 9-11 I think [04:23] Drat! Can't find it... [04:24] http://ohiolinux.org/ [04:26] Cheri703: Thanks! (I was thinking 9 = Sept 11= 2011 :P ) [04:26] heh [04:30] Added! Now for ubucon... [04:34] Cheri703: jgould is back! [04:34] thanks :) [04:34] jgould, I have a link for you, one sec [04:35] jgould: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/?p=2918 [04:36] didn't know if that'd be helpful at all [04:37] stupid router [04:48] what's it doing? [04:49] Bodyslamming him agenst the wall... [04:52] No, something higer powered will knock it off the air, and it takes the whole network down, including the wired stuff [04:55] Ok, I've been using the same kernel all night without an issue. I'm still getting my error message according to my dmesg logs, but I haven't installed ndiswrapper and added in my wireles... I'm now wondering if my bug report is invalid, and it's ndiswrapper that is doing it [05:02] jgould: Tried changing channels on the router? [05:06] Yep [05:14] This is an ndiswrapper problem... [05:16] How do you get rid of plymouth? [05:20] A hammer. [05:20] I don't think you can actually remove plymouth... not easily, anyway. [05:20] ...or maybe you can. [05:22] Nope. can't remove it. [05:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451592&page=2 [05:27] can you manually remove something that was added to a system if you can't get it to boot? (eg. nidswrapper [05:28] Hmm.. I suppose you could chroot into the system from a live CD and uninstall it. I haven't done it in years, though... [05:28] paultag would know more about that than me. [05:29] how do you do that? I think it would almost be faster for me to just reinstal the system (again) [05:30] Basically, you boot a live CD, mount the hard drive, then convince the running Live system that it's really the hard drive system, then fix what you need to fix. [05:31] http://superuser.com/questions/110913/repair-ubuntu-installation [05:32] chroot howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250 [05:33] Not sure if knoppix will boot on your mac or not, though. [05:39] lets see if the chroot fixed it [05:40] ok... back to a working system [05:41] :) [05:41] anyone here use gwibber? [05:41] Can't say I do [05:42] I did for a few days.. I didn't like it using > 1GB ram. [05:42] Of course, that was over a year ago... [05:42] is "button faded looking" or "button richer looking" the indication for selected? on the "send using x account" buttons...if that makes sense [05:43] if I click it, it changes, but it doesn't say "this is on, this is off" [05:43] so...I have no idea [05:47] Every time you click that some guy in china's lights go on and off... [05:48] probably [05:52] hmm... I still don't have wireless, but I do have a system that will boot... [05:54] progress! [05:57] just a little bit [06:03] I can't make up my mind between Xubutnu or Ubuntu with Gnome Classic [06:05] I heart gnome [06:06] There's things that I like about both, and things that I don't like about both. I do know that Unity got on my nerves... [06:22] Ok, so I have a laptop system that I can't take anywhere... Heh [06:23] hehe [06:23] could try a wireless adapter? [06:23] Could, but that's one more thign to carry [06:24] eh, I have a little teeny thumb drive one [06:25] what brand is it? [06:26] zonet [06:26] got it at microcenter [06:26] what chipset is it? [06:26] *shrug* no idea [06:27] did it just work when you plugged it in? [06:27] not in 10.04, but in 10.10 and 11.04 it does [06:30] I'm running 11.04 Taht may be a solution for the mean time, until the community figures out the drives for this bcm4331 [06:31] http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0311865 [06:32] I'm looking at it. [06:32] it was happy on newer ubuntu :) [06:33] I have a device that uses rt73usb! [06:33] I think my next laptop will be a machine from System76 [07:04] * jgould works on settign up NFS [07:24] sudo nano /etc/fstab [07:24] er [07:24] :D [07:26] if I add a line to my fstab, the drive will get mounted at boot, correct [07:51] Yes. [08:00] what if I added the user option? (also, what happens if mountd cant access the server? [08:07] Not sure about the user option.. If it can't access the server, it skips after a couple of tries. [08:07] * canthus13 uses NFS mounts all the time. [08:07] I've never used the user option. [08:08] I use something like this: [08:08] 192.168.1.4:/root/sdb1 /home/canthus13/Bob/sdb1 nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,auto [08:10] I was afraid that it would have a fit if the server wasnt' there [08:11] Nah. It just gives up, notes it in the log, and moves to the next mount. It might slow boot down a bit. [08:11] Not much, though.. I think it adds about 10 seconds to boot time if the server is down. [08:13] I have my srv directory on the server exported. That was easier than tryign to set ro/rw premissions on each subdir... [08:13] I have different shares for different things.. My kids have certain folders mounted on the media server with stuff appropriate for them. :) [08:14] It's just my wife and I so I can get away with it (and I'm really the only one that writes to the server...) [08:15] :) [08:15] My wife also has a separate share on the server for her own stuff, since her old laptop only had a 20gb drive on it... and she uses two different machines on a regular basis. [08:17] I'm debating doing that if I switch completly over to Ubuntu. What would be an easy way to keep a laptop and the server in sync. I've tried rsync (but have never gotten it to wrok right...) [08:19] rsync. [08:20] THere are frontends available, like grsync... but for it to be automagic, rsync and cron. [08:21] rsync is simple enough to use to sync a single folder... The problem comes when you start to sync multiple machines to the same folder. [08:22] The only machine that would need an offline copy is the laptop, everything else can stay online [08:23] * canthus13 only uses rsync for his music collection, and runs it manually whenever he needs to sync stuff. [08:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1343647 [08:28] I need to add a gigabit networking card to the server... [08:29] * canthus13 needs gigabit networking. :/ [08:30] My server has a gbit port, but it's running through a 100Mbit switch. [08:36] * jgould prints the thread and attaches it to the wall [08:36] both of my macs are gbit on wired. it beats the hell out of 100mbit when I'm trying to do backups [08:42] Wow. My file server's CPU temp is 26C... I don't think I've ever seen an AMD processor that cool before... Not a working one, anyway.. [08:42] I think I may go pick up one of the wireless dongles htat Cheri's got... [08:43] Woot for everyone STILL awake [08:44] jgould: it's pretty handy to have around [08:44] BiosElement: Yep! I'm still setting up SliTaz for PXE [08:44] I don't use it very often, but I have a spare laptop that has a jacked up wireless card [08:44] also nice if our internet is down and husband wants to connect desktop to neighbor wifi :) [08:45] Hah, being up this late inspires great coding feats for me [08:45] beh. [08:45] * canthus13 is just awake because he can't sleep. :(I [08:45] My servr is running at 42C right now... But I'm encoding a DVD [08:45] Just replaced a python plugin framework with a custom-rolled system to remove a dependency, took me a week of pondering and I couldn't figure out how to do it, took me 10 minutes to do now. >.< [08:45] and dongle always makes me smirk... for some reason it associates with 'dingleberry' in my mind. [08:46] jgould: I'd be thrilled if my laptop ever ran that cool. :) [08:46] Heh [08:48] Hmm... My laptop doens't list Thermal as an apci option... [08:48] Truthfully, though.. this laptop is cooler than my old HP. that one used to keep me warm during the winter. [08:49] jgould: Install sensors, use the sensors command for temps. [08:50] err... Hmm. mine doesn't show it either now that I'm using the liquorix kernel. :/ that must be why conky is no longer showing the CPU temp. [08:51] My computer boots into Memtest when I select the liquorix kernel... [08:52] Weird... sounds like a grub issue. :/ [08:52] I know it's not really a liquorix one... [08:53] Unit193: Natty? [08:53] Yep! (X) [08:53] Hmm... [08:56] As long as SliTaz can mount local disks, fixing it should be even faster now! [08:59] good night boys, I'm off to bed :) [08:59] Night [09:00] I think I'm heading to bed too. Night guys [09:02] Heh, so am I. [09:02] Nighty night folks [09:03] Just me? [09:06] I'm debating bed... I'm tired, but I can't sleep. :/ [09:12] Stay on for a little longer then try again... [09:13] I will... [10:20] That would have been a good idea... [13:45] hi all [14:43] What'd I miss [15:04] * Derath-Srvr shrugs, about as much as I have... [17:22] canthus13: sully has arrived! [17:38] ? [17:40] canthus13 sent me his coworker's sully (from monsters inc) toy so I can take it to budapest and take pictures of it [17:44] lol [17:45] is there a connection? [17:45] no, he just took it and was taking pictures of it in random places a la garden gnome [17:45] or is this a more generic travelling-gnome/flat-stanley sort of thing? [17:45] haha, right [17:45] Cheri703: Wow. I mailed him last night. [17:46] yeah :) [17:46] adding him to my packing list :) [17:46] deejoe: Exactly. He's going to Mexico with another co-worker in a couple of weeks. :) [17:47] fun [17:48] depending on how friendly the tsa people are (HA), I may try to put his arms up and get a pic by/in front of the whole body scanner :) [17:48] deejoe: I hung him with some mardi gras beads on his owner's desk, left a suicide note. So dude decided to put him in a 'coffin' with a eulogy written on a whiteboard. He was going to have him 'rise' on easter. So I swiped him the night before and left a note saying he faked his death... then sent him a picture from sully's gmail account of sully participating in an easter egg hunt.... [17:48] Cheri703: That would be awesome. :) [17:49] pictures at sensitive locations tend to draw unwanted attention [17:49] deejoe: a few days later, I sent a pic of sully entering a bar... and the next morning, a picture of sully cuddled up to a naked GI Joe doll in the gutter. [17:49] eh, people take pictures at security all the time, and I would ask first [17:49] deejoe: People take pictures, videos, post them everywhere of the TSA molesting people. [17:50] deejoe: They might like the publicity. Heck, a dude printed a poster-sized boarding pass and had a TSA agent pose with it. [17:50] I was at jury duty last week and took some pix of public art and of a very cool art-deco brass elevator status panel and was approached about it by the sheriff's folks who are there. [17:50] deejoe: local cops are very self-important. [17:50] canthus13: mind you, that's TSA. this is an international trip. [17:51] deejoe: ...which is still the TSA at the airport. But I'm sure Cheri703 has more common sense than me and won't get into trouble. :) [17:51] canthus13: only TSA at the *US* airports [17:51] deejoe: True. [17:51] there are at least two ends to an intn'l flight :-) [17:51] Hungarian security might be a little different. [17:51] (Probably more lax, actually..) [17:51] see also, connections [17:52] I wouldn't count on it at Heathrow, for instance. [17:52] cmh > jfk > bud bud > jfk > cmh [17:52] * canthus13 likes jury duty. "I don't like him. he looks funny. I think he's guilty." [17:52] only one stop, stateside :) [17:52] oh, cool, connection on this side. [17:52] Cheri703: Nice. [17:52] yeah, I'm very ok with it since it's my first international trip :) [17:52] * canthus13 last went through heathrow in 1981. [17:53] ..No. 1983. It was Halifax in 1981. [17:54] been a while for me too [17:54] well before T5 [18:00] Well.. Time to leave for work. [19:22] Unit193: are you guys for sure coming tonight? [19:24] Cheri703: As far as I know... [19:24] k, then I'll plan to go :) [19:29] You can call him at about 3:30 ;) [19:32] call who? [19:33] EricR2427 [19:33] can you call him? because I'll have to get on the bus at 4 if I'm going [19:42] ok. We're online at Panera from Ubuntu! [19:43] Now I just need to get this trackpad to not be hyper responsive [19:44] Which Panera? [19:44] Mill Run [19:45] Cheri703: Called him yesterday and he said he would call if not [19:45] ok [19:46] COlumbus area, or Mansfield? [19:46] Columbus. West side [19:46] Ah [19:46] Oh nice, LastPass proves they're incompetent. but doesn't bother mailing it's users. [19:47] Oh? [19:47] Their servers were "possibly" hacked [19:47] Oh, the Hillard area, Hmm... wonder if we can talk gilbert to change locations over to there... how's the traffic? has to be better than the one beside OSU... [19:48] Their servers were misconfigured, didn't keep logs to figure out what happened and they're recommending master pass changes [19:48] Better than the one by OSU, and there is a community room over here [19:48] Screw that, I'm dumping it altogether. You run a password system without competent IT? Fail. >.> [19:52] Oh yes, and their servers are choking on the load. [19:52] Now to figure out my hyper sensitive trackpad... [19:52] #gm Gnome, kde, other? [19:52] sigh, ignore the #gm... [19:52] gnome [19:52] wrong irc chan lol [19:53] ah [19:53] I believe there's a setting in gnome's preference panel for the mouse sensativity [19:53] there is a specific driver for this damn trackpad [19:54] mbp again? [19:55] Yep [19:56] but I'm working in Ubuntu on it now. I need to hunt down the line for the xorg file for it... [19:56] Hmm... I still think that if you lower the sensitivity in the menu, should help... [19:56] dunno though, since I haven't had that problem [19:58] It seems to have helped a little bit [19:58] Blast LastPass [19:59] what exactly happendd? [19:59] BiosElement said it ^^ (First I know of it...) [20:00] http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/lastpass-melts-down-and-leaves-many-users-hopefully-temporarily-stranded-without-their-passwords/10351 [20:00] I didn't use them for password sync... [20:01] never used them at all here... [20:02] I use them for bookmark sync. This was before FF4 came out [20:02] "Right now, the LastPass situation is a clusterfrak and represents another sad-but-true example of what happens when we depend on the cloud for our services." [20:04] jgould: They don't know what exactly happened [20:04] The cloud is a great idea, just not uet [20:04] er yet [20:04] No [20:04] They say they won't ever know [20:04] Because their servers were not keeping proper logs [20:04] I'm talking about the cloud. Not Lastpass's fuck up [20:05] Ahh heh [20:05] Cloud is fine, as is. But you need competent people behind it [20:05] Can't say that it's entire fail... [20:06] It's just like cars, sure some people crash into buildings, but it depends on the driver. [20:07] wrong way to notify clients, not enough infrastructure to handle the load, and when you're dealing with people who do not understand technology, it's hard NOT to incite a panic in that situation... [20:07] http://blog.lastpass.com/2011/05/lastpass-security-notification.html [20:07] Derath-Srvr: Thir blog FINALLY loaded, looks like they redirected it to blogger so the blog loads now [20:07] They're saying that they're sending notifications in batches to reduce server load [20:07] adjusted load balancer maybe? [20:09] No, It's hosted on blogger now >.< [20:11] "we don't have very much data indicating what potentially happened and what attack vector could have been used and are continuing to investigate it" [20:11] Well, it also takes a long time to sift through log files too... lol [20:12] The log files they already stated they don't have >.> [20:12] That's the thing [20:12] Maybe not the easy ones... but I'm sure there was a database access, ssh log, or something... [20:12] Not only did it happen, but they're in the security business without logging like a ninja. >.< [20:13] Derath-Srvr: They tossed them after a short peroid of time [20:13] More like looking like the Incas with a temple of gold huh? [20:13] If they didn't keep logs long enough, they'll never figure it out. [20:14] Disk space is cheap, log like a friggen ninja. [20:15] do ninjas log a lot? [20:15] I'd think it'd be "log like a lumberjack" ;) [20:16] or "log like a beaver" [20:16] or "log like abe lincoln" [20:16] or "log like a cabin" [20:16] * Cheri703 may be in a weird mood [20:16] Hah, someone's hyperish [20:17] regardless, mine make more sense [20:17] But he got to use a Ninja! [20:17] Yep! [20:17] meh [20:17] Ninjas rule, Pirates Die. [20:18] BUT NINJAS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH LOGS...unless you count the part in mulan where they're having to jump across the upended logs in their training while the "be a man" song is playing :) [20:18] but they weren't even training to be NINJAS, just soldiers [20:18] Heh [20:19] * BiosElement makes note to keep caffeine away from Cheri703 [20:19] * jgould slips Cheri703 some coffee [20:19] hehe, I found the REAL SUGAR dr pepper at kroger yesterday /me is in heaven again :) but I am still on my first can for the day (and have been for a few hours) [20:19] damn lag [20:19] lol [20:20] "The cause for the anomaly could not be identified. Further investigation revealed that traffic was sent from a database which could not be accounted for either." So they had a rouge database on their network??? [20:20] this is often what is going through my head as people say things, I just don't always put it into words :) [20:20] wth? how could you not know there's another database on your network??? [20:20] BiosElement: KeePass? [20:24] sigh, whole thing is crazy, glad I don't use them... [20:24] Unit193: Yes, KeePass is great, but it won't work for ChromeOS [20:24] Or any of those aggregators actually... [20:25] Unit193: I use KeePass as my primary Pass store, LastPass was only ever secondary. [20:27] http://keepass.info/plugins.html#chromeipass [20:27] BiosElement: I take it KeePass plugins don't work with KeePassX? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ompiailgknfdndiefoaoiligalphfdae [20:28] I've thought about trying to build chromium... [20:28] Unit193: They should, but I haven't looked at it recently [20:28] and LMFAO!!! [20:28] "Sorry, we don't support your browser just yet. You'll need Google Chrome to install apps, extensions and themes." [20:28] ^I'm using Chrome :P [20:28] Chromium? [20:28] Probably Win only [20:29] Sorry to hear that Cheri... [20:29] The Google OS [20:29] The ting that BiosElement is runing on his CR-48 [20:30] Technically they have pass sync, it just needs more work >.< [20:32] Hmm... Another issue. after locking the screen and then unlocking it, the screen dims on battery power, even though I had it at full brightness before I locked it [20:33] jgould: mine does that EVERY TIME I unplug my cord, no matter how I have it set...so...that's a small one [20:34] at least the system remains functional through it [20:35] That bug has been around for a long time. [20:35] Worse is the one where the brightness reverses, and goes dim on A/C and full on battery. [20:36] Heh [20:37] canthus13: I'm already trying to plan out photo-ops for sully...want to get something communism related... [20:38] :D [20:40] Try to keep Ubuntu out of 'em for the most part. He knows I"m involved with Ubuntu. [20:40] ok, good to know [20:40] do we not want him to know it was you? or? [20:41] Intersting... the install of evolution on the macbook doesn't give me the option to sync my calendars to google [20:41] Not at this point.. :) [20:42] kk [20:44] "I just had a wireless router installed and they left all the wires still plugged in!" [20:45] ha [20:45] ha [20:45] Silly lady thought it meant we'd talk all the cabling out. :) [20:45] nice [20:45] I've had people think that [20:47] Silly lady [20:50] crap the other box with Ubuntu 11.04 on it went to sleep [20:51] jgould: Throw frozen marbles under the covers. that'll wake it up. [20:51] Heh [20:52] I wonder if there is some addon package to Evoloution that I'm misssing that is causing me to not be able to sync the calendars to google [21:01] * Derath-Srvr shrugs [21:02] I've been using tbird+lightning... [21:02] will it display in the menu bar? [21:03] Derath-Srvr: +1 [21:03] Or Alpine+gmail+Gcal... [21:11] that was not nice [21:12] Eh? [21:12] I had the kernel crash [21:13] Eh. Not fun... [21:15] in the logs, what are the numbers in the brackets? [21:16] pid? [21:16] * Unit193 doesn't seem to know [21:17] May 5 16:09:24 Abigail kernel: [ 45.903309] cfg80211... [21:18] I was looking at another number/log... [21:18] Runtime? [21:19] Maybe, the number gets bigger the longer the system is up... [21:23] it's related to uptime/runtime, but I can't remember exact formatting... [21:24] i.e. if it's like the tick since boot or something... [21:31] thats what it looks like [21:31] Checking [21:37] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484475 [21:37] Ticks since init's start [21:39] And confirmed... uptime in seconds... [21:39] granted down to the what? microsecond? [21:40] Wow, I was right on a guess... it was microsecond... [21:41] Because I need to know what microsecond it failed! [21:41] lol heck yeah! [21:42] that matters so much. LOL [21:47] but isn't that why people run gentoo? just so they are idling 10 microsecs faster than anyone else? [21:53]