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monkeyhowdy01:10
monkeyThe information could not be retrieved. Maybe your internet connection is down?01:10
monkeyrecent upgrade to natty01:11
monkeyI saw in one of the logs that it was having issues with an old uuid that had changed so I reinstalled every ubuntuone-* and now I'm getting this fun error01:12
monkeyif anyone has any ideas I'll post it over at the forum, since I didn't see an answer there01:13
duanedesignhello monkey01:16
monkeyHi01:16
duanedesignhave you filed a bug on this?01:16
monkeyI have not01:17
duanedesignok\01:17
monkeyI figured that it was probably some weird setting that I had somewhere01:17
duanedesignI saw a bug report similar to this yesterday01:17
duanedesign(why i ask)01:17
monkeyok01:17
duanedesignmonkey: you are using Network Manager? and not WICD?01:17
monkeyhow can I tell?01:18
monkey/etc/NetworkManager01:19
duanedesignmonkey: you wouuld likely know. You would of had to have installed WICD and set it up to handle your network01:19
monkeynope, didn't do that01:19
duanedesignok.01:19
duanedesigni am looking to see If i can find what triggers that error01:21
monkeyI should mention too that I'm running gnome301:23
duanedesignmonkey: monkey is their anything in your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log01:23
duanedesignahh ok01:23
monkeythere was tons of stuff, I deleted the .cache/ubuntuone folder01:24
monkeyI'll check again01:24
monkeyI've been getting really high CPU on it too, that's why I started trying to figure it out01:25
monkeyand my net up was constantly around 270kib/s01:26
monkeycurrent exceptions.log is empty01:26
monkey2011-05-04 20:07:03,599 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.sync - ERROR - unhandled exception01:26
monkeyTraceback (most recent call last):01:26
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/sync.py", line 305, in on_event01:26
monkey    **kwargs)01:26
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/fsm/fsm.py", line 110, in on_event01:26
monkey    event_name, parameters, args))01:26
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/sync.py", line 223, in level_log01:26
monkey    self.log(lvl, message, *args, **kwargs)01:26
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/sync.py", line 253, in log01:27
monkey    "relpath of: %r", self.key['path'])01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/sync.py", line 98, in __getitem__01:27
monkey    return self.get(key)01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/sync.py", line 79, in get01:27
monkey    mdobj = self.fs.get_by_mdid(mdid)01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/filesystem_manager.py", line 767, in get_by_mdid01:27
monkey    mdobj = self.fs[mdid]01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/tritcask.py", line 860, in __getitem__01:27
monkey    return self._deserialize(self._db.get(self.row_type, key))01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/tritcask.py", line 778, in get01:27
monkey    kd_entry.value_sz)01:27
monkey  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/tritcask.py", line 757, in _get_value01:27
monkey    return self._immutable[file_id][value_pos:value_pos+value_sz]01:27
monkeyKeyError: '130455381722362'01:27
monkeythat's the old one01:27
duanedesignok. Use a pastebin for multi-line text. http://fpaste.org/01:29
monkeysorry01:29
duanedesignno worries :)01:29
monkeyhttp://fpaste.org/Y3Ok/01:30
monkeyempathy handles it really well01:31
monkeyI used trillian for years and it would irc flood01:31
monkeycredentials.log: http://fpaste.org/7M3C/01:33
mwhudsonis there a bug for tags not being read from m4a music files that i can subscribe to?01:34
duanedesignmwhudson: could you also paste the syncdaemon.log ?01:38
duanedesignoops01:38
duanedesignmonkey: ^^01:38
dobeymwhudson: #660633 and #732776 seem to be about it.01:39
mwhudsondobey: are they private?01:40
dobeyyes01:40
dobeyprobably don't need to be though01:40
mwhudsonso i guess that's a no to my question in a strict sense then :)01:41
monkeyhttp://fpaste.org/ZRDu/01:41
mwhudsonin other news, the music streaming doesn't seem to be able to keep up on my android phone01:41
mwhudsonit's on wifi, so i have a slightly hard time believing the network is too slow01:41
monkeyI had it installed on my incredible for a while but i kept getting FC's all the time and I let the subscription run out01:42
mwhudsoni'm in nz of course, so latency is probably a bit higher than for most people...01:42
mwhudsonmonkey: an advantage of working for canonical i guess, not having to pay :)01:43
monkeylol01:43
dobeymwhudson: i susbscribed you, marked one as dup of the other, since they're the same, and made them public. :)01:43
mwhudsondobey: thanks :)01:44
duanedesignmonkey: can you open Password and Encryption Keys (seahorse)01:47
* mwhudson turns wifi off, watches streaming go faster01:47
mwhudsonmaybe the local network is messed up some how01:47
monkeyI opened seahorse01:48
monkeyI see monkey@pluto which is my puter01:48
monkeyshould I delete it?01:48
dobeymwhudson: turn off your bittorrent :)01:48
dobeymonkey: that's probably your ssh key?01:49
dobeymonkey: there should be one with "Ubuntu One" in the name01:49
duanedesignmonkey: yeah you are looking for the Ubuntu One token01:49
monkeyunder passwords: Passwords:default, Passwords:login :::: under My Personal Keys: monkey@pluto Key Id xxxxxxx :::: under other keys: empty01:51
duanedesignits the Passwords Tab01:52
duanedesignPasswords:Default you should be able to expand the folder01:52
duanedesignYou may have to right-click and Unlock01:53
monkeyok... there's https://login.ubuntuone.com and "Ubuntu One"01:54
monkeydelete them both?01:54
duanedesigndobey: that is just the naming difference between the older and newer Tokens, correct?01:56
dobeyno01:56
duanedesignok so its the second one01:56
dobeynew is just "Ubuntu One"01:56
dobeythe login.ubuntuone.com, i have no idea where that would be from, since the domain doesn't even exist :)01:57
duanedesignmonkey: right-click > Delete the 'Ubuntu One' token01:57
monkeyi did that, then restarted the ubuntu one control app, went to login to account and got01:58
dobeyif you use epiphany as your web browser, it stores passwords in your keyring if you have it remember them; and that might be for login.ubuntu.com, but not for ubuntuone specifically01:58
monkeyMethod "CreateItem" with Signature "a{sv}{oayay}b" on intrface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist01:59
monkeyk01:59
duanedesignuhh01:59
monkeyI use FF and Chrome01:59
dobeyugh you are using gnome301:59
monkeylol01:59
dobeygnome-keyring 3.x broke the API, and thus breaks ubuntu one02:00
monkeyok02:00
monkeyso I'm SOL for now?02:00
duanedesignis a downgrade of the package possible?02:00
dobeypossible, but would need to get rid of all the gnome3 stuff that uses it also; which is quite a bit02:01
dobeylike, everything02:01
monkeylol02:02
duanedesign:\02:03
monkey<< Web Developer, I understand the pain of multi-platform support02:04
* monkey shakes fist at M$02:04
dobeywhat do they have to do with anything?02:06
monkeyInternet Explorer doesn't believe in web standards02:06
dobeynobody does02:07
monkeylol02:07
dobeythat's why half the crap is prefixed with -webkit or -mozilla02:07
monkeytrue02:07
dobeyit's only fair that MS gets -microsoft or -trident or whatever it's called now02:07
dobeybecause having to write the exact same CSS 3 times is so much fun02:08
monkeyit's more that they don't even follow their own standards between releases02:08
faganIE is a pain but 9 is an attempt02:08
monkey<--lte IE 6 --> <--lte IE 7 --> <--lte IE8-->02:08
monkeyI haven't even looked at it yet02:09
dobeyi just wish people would continue to support netscape 3.0402:09
monkeyI'm so removed ufrom windows ever since my harddrive died and I install ubunt02:09
monkeyu02:09
monkeylol02:09
monkeywow, I remember when navigator came out02:09
monkeyI feel old02:10
dobeylaunchpad doesn't work on it though :(02:10
faganmandel: I dont think I had a computer by the time netscape finished02:10
fagannot mandel :/02:11
dobeyfinished what?02:11
faganmonkey: ^02:11
fagandobey: well when mozilla started02:11
dobeyfagan: netscape is still around02:12
fagandobey: isnt it AOL and its a historical download or something02:12
faganOh I mean the navigator itself I dont have a clue about netscape02:13
monkeyZOMG, Netscape is going open source!02:13
dobeyaside from having a totally horrible web page, i have no idea what aol is doing with netscape02:13
monkeyI feel like they murdered winamp02:13
dobeyfagan: eh, communicator was around for a long while after mozilla started02:13
monkeyie: netscape 402:13
fagandobey: never heard of it ::D02:14
dobey*facepalm*02:14
* fagan is a youngin 02:14
faganhttp://netscape.aol.com/ ewwwww02:15
dobeyfagan: navigator/communicator supported ended only about 2.5 years ago; and 9.x; mozilla was started at the end of 4.x02:15
dobeyerr, 3 years ago i guess; was looking at wrong date02:16
dobeyanyway02:16
dobey3.04 Gold was the pinnacle02:16
fagandobey: interesting I thought it finished a lot eariler02:16
faganI suppose AOL did some butchering or something to kill it off02:17
dobeyyeah, aol didn't kill it off02:18
dobeythey just sort of let it die02:18
fagankinda what AOL do02:19
duanedesignis their still a script to get a file with the dbus api?02:19
faganthey are a funny company02:19
monkeydo irc:// links have # in them?02:21
faganmonkey: id say so02:21
* fagan doesnt use them though 02:21
dobeygrr, why is the main us archive server so slow still02:23
monkeyI'm guessing people are still hitting it for natty02:23
* dobey will probably still be downloading updates by the time his flight comes round02:23
monkeyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1077085202:24
dobeyand i am on a super fast connection :(02:24
monkeyany suggestions for edits?02:24
fagandobey: the ie archive is funny we have 20gbs without enough people to use it02:24
dobeymaybe i should point at it then02:25
monkeyhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-select-fastest-mirror-in-ubuntu.html02:25
fagandobey: you might get better results02:25
dobeyugh it's still slow02:26
fagandobey: maybe something to do with a node somewhere being hit hard02:27
faganyou might want to try the other direction and see what happens02:27
faganso usw02:27
faganthe archives should be fine at this time02:28
dobeyi suppose i could just wait until sunday and then use the conference mirror02:29
fagandobey: yeah that would be super fast but if you started downloading now it would be done by then :)02:29
fagananyway sleep before I get in up for work at 902:30
dobeyi should probably just set up a mirror02:31
dobeyand use it for all my machines02:31
duanedesignwhat does the Preferences Panel use desktopcouch for?02:31
dobeyduanedesign: to toggle which DBs get synchronized02:32
fagandobey: do you use landscape?02:32
dobeyno02:32
fagandobey: if you have a few machines and since its free you might get some use out of it02:32
fagan(its free to us I mean)02:33
dobeyi don't use my laptops that much02:33
faganah ok then02:33
faganI would use it myself if I had more than my 2 computers02:34
fagananyway im off02:35
fagannight nighyt02:35
duanedesigncya tomorrow fagan02:37
dobeyi wonder how to use SANE02:37
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dobeywriting software is hard.02:53
duanedesigndobey: you writing something for a scanner?03:03
dobeyyes03:03
dobeyan app to track sales tax on receipts, for writing it off on taxes :)03:04
duanedesignahhhh03:04
duanedesignnice03:04
dobeyso i don't have to keep physical copies around03:04
dobeyjust scan a receipt whenever i get one, and it will automatically read the tax and info, and store the info and image in a database03:05
duanedesignI like that03:06
duanedesignbetter then the shoebox I use03:06
dobeyi haven't used it03:07
dobeybut i'm not fond of the camera apps anyway, since they don't have 1200dpi cameras to work from...03:07
mwhudsondobey: can you hook it up to canonicaladmin? :)03:10
dobeymwhudson: can you rewrite canonicaladmin? :)03:10
mwhudsondobey: can i use an axe?03:10
dobeyheh03:11
mwhudson(and not lotus notes pls)03:11
dobeyalright, well i am off03:23
mandelmorning all!!08:10
duanedesignmorning all09:04
JamesTaitHello, world!09:04
duanedesignrye: was reading my RSS feeds this morning and came across this and thought you might find it interesting. http://www.stgraber.org/2011/05/04/state-of-lxc-in-ubuntu-natty/09:04
ryeduanedesign, interesting... very interesting09:08
ryemaybe this time i will finally get at least anything started09:08
ryeduanedesign, thanks!09:08
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ryeO_O09:11
ryeduanedesign, all these days09:11
rye:'-(09:11
ryeduanedesign, all these days my lxc startup was failing BECAUSE I DID NOT CONFIGURE NETWORKING!09:12
duanedesignahhhhh09:21
faganmorning09:31
karniGood morning!09:59
duanedesigno/09:59
karni\o10:00
duanedesignrye: the other day, after looking at a users pastebin,  you said you thought it was stuck. I think this is this the log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602208/10:23
ryeduanedesign, erm, not really, don't recall that pastebin10:24
duanedesignrye: ok :) no worries10:24
ryeor i do10:24
ryeit is unlinking lots of stuff10:24
duanedesignyeah, I think that was the user that copied his UBuntu One folder and metadata to a new computer10:26
duanedesignanyway, was just reading some old logs and wanted to make sure their was not something in their I was not seeing :)10:27
karniduanedesign: yes, that's the one10:35
* fagan break11:21
ryeenabled but greyed out... how can this be displayed in ubuntuone-control-panel?... hmm11:34
faganok its official windows stole my bank card12:27
faganmy bank runs windows workstation on their machines and it crashed and didnt return my card :/12:27
faganso im going to be very hungry for 3-5 working days :(12:27
fagan(because of windows obviously)12:28
* fagan now knows why mandel_ says puta windows 12:29
faganthe funny thing is they are running windows NT 4 which is made in 1996 so just shows how advanced my bank is12:30
mandelthey must be paying a fortune to ensure that is maintained :)12:32
faganmandel: well I would have thought they would be using unix of some sort12:32
faganlike unix has been around for longer12:33
faganIm really thinking about switching banks now after learning how secure my money is12:34
faganmandel: and yeah id say they are paying an arm and a leg to keep engineers on it12:34
faganbut thats how banks work12:34
mandelfagan: you will find that everywhere, is not the bank, is the people that make the atm points which is diff12:35
mandelin the server side they probably have unix, is probably due to drivers or something like that12:35
faganI dont know, all I know is that I cant access my pay till next week12:36
* mandel goes to walk the dog and be away from pdb for some time12:36
faganWe probably dont need to have standup right?12:37
fagansince there are so many away12:37
mandelno idea12:37
mandelI;d say we should do it12:37
faganYeah lets not and say we did :P12:37
* fagan looks at mandel's merges since he forgot about them 12:38
mandelI'll be back later12:43
fagancool12:43
hrwhi12:44
faganhey hrw12:44
hrwkarni: how goes u1f? any ETA for market?12:45
faganhrw: id say soon™12:45
fagan:)12:45
karnihrw: will e-mail to the API. no ETA, issues with serverside REST uploads which I started just today12:45
karnifagan: good one12:45
karnihrw: /s/API/APK12:45
karnihrw: sent12:46
hrwthx12:46
karnihrw: please uninstall the previous version first.12:47
karnithis is completely new12:47
hrwok12:47
hrwkarni: 1.2.60 still? I thought that previous one was also 1.2.6012:51
karnihrw: ignore that, didn't bump it. majority of the code is new12:52
karnihrw: I did adress the login screen menu > show welcome message, but don't try unmounting the sdcard ;) I'm still aware of it.12:53
hrwok12:53
* karni bumps version to 1.312:53
fagankarni: bump it to 6.1 I dare you12:54
karnifagan: what does "I dare you" mean in this context? /asking purely out of linguistic reasons/12:54
hrwkarni: http://home.haerwu.biz/~hrw/shots/u1f-01.png - should not there be 'select this app as default' checkbox too?12:55
fagankarni: I dare you to do it12:55
karnifagan: yes well I would bump it to 2.0 but I believe it'll land on the market as 1.0 anyway ;P12:55
faganhah12:55
hrwkarni: is "+" button on top row not enabled?12:56
karnihrw: brb yes disabled12:56
karnihrw: I'm back. Have you read the e-mail contents?12:57
karnihrw: Please do if you have a minute, it says what's ready and what's not :)12:58
hrwkarni: I have a file "Zdjęcie023.jpg" on my U1 account. when I enter u1f it says "last modified mar 03" but attempt to download it ends with "Error: INTERNAL SERVER ERROR" and date changes to "kwi 20". when I tap it I am getting "problem opening file" and date changes back.12:58
karnihrw: shortly: Uploads, Shares from others, and Settings screen are not ready / not enabled / not available12:58
hrwwill read12:58
karnihrw: Interesting, I was pretty sure I fixed the encoding. Will replicate.12:59
karnihrw: also, one person reported their UDFs disappeared from the top list when they browsed back "to the root", let me know if you see your UDFs correctly13:00
hrwUDF is?13:00
karnihrw: as for 'select as default', that was intentional, but we can change this13:00
karnihrw: User Defined Folder, custom folders outside ~/Ubuntu One13:00
karnihrw: if you have some, these are the sloppy looking entries on the top of the list13:00
hrwkarni: for me directory list looks ok. but when I am in /shots/evo/ I have to remember path cause it is not present on screen13:01
karnihrw: indeed. this is a medium/low priority at the moment (as long as we don't have uploads and photo sync)13:02
hrwkarni: ok, waiting for uploads support13:05
karnihrw: should come soon, as long as we land this soon on the server13:05
hrwkarni: my need: being able to use U1 as a backup of few dirs on internal SD13:05
karnihrw: right. at the moment, our home is /sdcard/u1 so that we don't clutter the users sdcard. but I do understand making some folders from SD card UDFs is what people will want.13:07
karnihrw: once upload is ready, I'll look into recursive upload for folders and possibility to create UDFs from what you have mentioned. for the time being, we're not doing any file system rescans, that means - if you put something in your ~/Ubuntu One folder manually (i.e. from a PC via USB), U1F will not notice that. so you can imagine this relates as well to your feature request.13:09
karnihrw: I'm not saying it's hard, I'm just saying this will come with time, not sure wether with the initial release to the market13:09
hrwfine for me13:10
karnihrw: Are those directories movable? That is, is it something that you could put under /sdcard/u1 or it's a fixed location? (Don't mind media such as pictures/videos/music, that's a separate feature)13:13
hrwkarni: I can move them13:13
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hrwkarni: TitaniumBackup allows to set that. but it also supports Dropbox13:14
karnihrw: conceptually, if we were to enable auto back-up of any folder on SD card, we could probably move from under /u1 to the root of the SD card with all UDFs and ~/Ubuntu One folder13:14
karnihrw: I would also, if I was writing a backup app ;)13:14
karnibackup features (SMS, custom folders) are on my mind, but currently not any close to the front of the TODO list13:15
fagankarni: if yoqu do sms backup I would love you13:16
karnifagan: I will. And please don't ;)13:16
fagankarni: hah13:16
fagankarni: oh and if I could view those SMS messages online it would be even better13:17
* fagan wonders how android stores messages 13:17
karnifagan: That makes me think it would be a separate app which would store them in CouchDB - problem solved13:18
karnifagan: in a ContentProvider which is backed by an sqlite3 db13:18
fagankarni: that sounds easy enough to implement then13:18
fagansqlite is so awesome13:19
karnihrw: umm.. from what I see TitaniumBackup "supports Dropbox" in a way that it sends the backup file to it, is that correct?13:20
karnihrw: if it isn't hardcoded to tie to Dropbox, it will be trivial to send this to U1F which would upload that for you - I believe this would solve the problem of custom folders backup?13:21
faganis ralsina online?13:37
faganmandel: name your branches better13:42
fagan:D13:42
hrwkarni: I do not know how TB supports dropbox as not tested this yet. and backup consists lot of files in one dir13:52
dobeyfagan: i doubt ralsina will be generally available today13:53
fagandobey: its cool I just wanted to ask him something it can wait13:54
dobeyrodrigo_: ping13:54
dobeyrodrigo_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/603355/ on lucid. i guess that glib doesn't have the boxed type?13:54
thisfredme?14:01
rodrigo_dobey: looking14:01
rodrigo_dobey: hmm, yes, I guess it doesn't have the macro14:02
dobeyrodrigo_: you are going to UDS, right?14:02
rodrigo_dobey: yes, on Sunday14:03
faganthisfred: we arent going to do standup :)14:03
thisfredkk14:03
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dobeyrodrigo_: cool.14:04
dobeyrodrigo_: should we just stop building on lucid, or fix this?14:04
rodrigo_dobey: I guess we could add a patch to the lucid build, if that's possible14:04
rodrigo_or yes, stop building on lucid14:05
faganmandel: I approved your branches if you have any more just honk14:05
dobeyi'll just stop building it then; we use the same package branch for all ubuntu versions in nightlies14:05
alecufagan, every time you say h-onk, my irc client beeps14:06
faganalecu: hah why?14:06
dobeyalecu: you should fix it to play an mp3 of a honking sound14:06
alecudobey, good idea!14:06
dobeyspeaking of alecu, i need to watch this dvd already14:06
* fagan has to go afk for 30 mins brb14:07
alecufagan, I've added honk to the list of strings that trigger the beep (everybody, hey all)14:07
alecufagan, because "honk" used to be the word to ask for help in this channel.14:07
mandelme14:07
dobeymandel: no standup14:08
alecufine by me!14:08
mandelok14:08
mandelfagan: what is wrong with the names?14:09
ryealecu, fagan, heh, me too :)14:10
karnihrw: ok, thanks14:12
alecurye, "Regards, Roman Empire" ??? :-)14:14
dobeymandel: they have underscores14:17
mandeldobey: and?14:17
dobeymandel: underscores suck14:17
mandelthat is what she said14:18
dobeyyes. yes it is.14:18
dobeyalso, no weekly meeting today14:19
dobeyi think14:19
mandelmakes sense14:19
mandeldobey: if it is a MAYOR pain in the ass for you that I use _ I can change, I have no char sep preference14:20
faganmandel: the only difference between 2 branches was an s at the end of one14:21
dobeyi really don't care14:21
faganI almost reviewed the one I already looked at14:21
mandelfagan: really? may I know which ones?14:21
fagansec14:22
faganmandel: fix_signal_emition fix_signals_emition14:23
faganthe _ are fine in it though I like that myself14:23
faganwell they were stacked against different projects so it only mattered on my machine14:23
fagansince I had both branches in the same folder14:23
mandelfagan: so it your fault, you can do bzr branch lp:blah ubuntuone_client_blah14:24
faganmandel: the branch was fine it was just the cd got confused because the names were so similar thats what I meant14:24
faganso its your fault :)14:24
faganInstead of fix you could use amend or something :P14:25
mandelmeh14:25
dobeyfagan: it's your fault, because your environment is organized poorly :)14:26
fagandobey: hah its a VM my organisation is deleting the branches after I test them14:26
fagananyway have to try get money out of my bank without a card14:27
* fagan takes some guns just in case14:27
dobeythe history of baseball in northern ireland14:27
fagandobey: we have baseball in Ireland????? :/14:28
fagannews to me14:28
* fagan afk14:28
mandelguys, do you know how I can make pdb execute a multiline step expression?14:29
dobeyfagan: http://cafe.comebackalive.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=15357&start=1514:30
pedronismandel, not easy, what you can do is start a sub interactive repl14:39
mandelpedronis: oh, teach me please! a mean if you have time or have a pointer to something to read :)14:41
pedronismandel: import code; code.interact(local=locals())14:42
pedronisat the pdb prompt will give you an interactive python shell with the current (in pdb) locals14:42
mandelpedronis: just like that?14:43
pedronismandel, http://docs.python.org/library/code.html is the doc for that14:43
pedronismandel, yes14:43
mandelpedronis: great thx a lot !14:44
faganawh interesting dobey soo its nothing to do with baseball14:57
faganmandel: if you have no merges for me ill go and order my books14:57
faganlast chance for suggestions14:57
faganMy bank robbery worked :D14:58
dobeyyay i can use my u820 again, even if the video is crappy and slow15:01
faganu820?15:01
* fagan only knows UB4015:01
thisfredu820 is 410 times better than U215:06
fagan:/ damn pounds I cant tell exactly how much its going to cost in euro15:07
faganill have to wait15:07
faganI walked a long way today15:07
faganthisfred: take that back u2 are a the greatest rock band in the world and they are from Ireland so that makes them the biggest musical act in the world15:08
fagan:P15:08
thisfredI will do no such thing, but I'm willing to let it go now, before things turn ugly ;)15:09
thisfredhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6gPSSYxex015:10
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thisfredthat's the letter U and the numeral 215:11
dobeyu2 is a rock band?15:14
thisfredthese guys are from england15:14
fagandobey: well in the classic sense of the world15:14
* fagan slaps thisfred 15:15
thisfred:)15:15
dobeynot really15:15
thisfreddobey see the negativland song ^^15:15
dobeythey're 80s boy band15:15
dobeythisfred: i did15:15
faganThey should do that song with that guy who rages on his fox news programme15:16
dobey"Your trip to Budapest, Hungary is about to begin"15:16
* fagan cant remember his name 15:16
thisfredbill o'reilly?15:16
faganthisfred: yeah15:16
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thisfredI think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_Kasem is funnier15:17
faganthisfred: never heard of him15:18
faganthe only american personality I know is ryan seacreast15:18
fagan:D15:18
* fagan trolling 15:18
dobeyyou know him personally?15:20
fagandobey: very peronally :D15:21
fagans/peronally/personally15:21
faganits a real shame no one uses apturl that much15:43
dobeyfagan: what do you mean?15:47
fagandobey: well ive only seen good use of aptul on my website once and one other websie15:47
fagan*website15:47
dobeywhat is "good use of apturl" ?15:48
fagandobey: support and suggesting good programs from the archive on a blog..etc15:48
fagandobey: support is the best use really15:48
dobeyso blog about it15:49
dobeygo fix up all the wiki pages to use it where they say "apt-get install xxx"15:49
fagandobey: did before and I suppose you can use apt.ubuntu.com15:49
faganwhich the developer poral is using15:49
fagan*portal15:49
* fagan cant type today 15:49
faganthe only problem with the apt.ubuntu.com site is its broken and no one knows who owns it to fix it15:50
faganso the developer.ubuntu.com has a load of links just say your not on Ubuntu :)15:51
fagananyhow ill get back to what I was doing and stop complaining :)15:51
faganwow converting music on a msi wind is a bad idea15:55
faganalecu: I dont have friday time like you guys but if you want help with that games thing I can give some good advice since I do it a lot16:13
* fagan has just about every good linux game available at the moment 16:14
dobeylies16:16
ryefagan, that site is broken if you are not running firefox with ubufox extension16:16
dobeyi wonder how well steam works on linux16:16
fagandobey: well they apparently have it working internally16:17
fagandobey: and id tend to believe that they are holding back for more people on the platform16:17
faganrye: oh16:18
ryefagan, actually, apt.ubuntu.com does nothing except of being apt.ubuntu.com :)16:20
faganrye: then why did they use it for developer.ubuntu.com?16:21
ryefagan, hmmm16:22
dobeyfagan: i mean under wine, not native16:22
ryefagan, probably it is not _that_ simple as I have thought16:22
fagandobey: im pretty sure it works in wine16:22
ryefagan, no, http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/bash - works16:22
faganrye: oh they must have fixed it16:23
ryefagan, refresh:5; url=apt://bash16:23
ryefagan, it just redirects to apt:// something16:23
faganrye: ahhhh so it just makes sure they are running ubuntu then gives the apt link rather than confusing people16:23
faganthats nice16:23
dobeywell there is a uds session about having the 'app store' accessible on the web16:26
dobeyif that's what you were looking for16:26
fagandobey: that sounds cool but what would it do for users?16:26
xharxi installed ubuntu one under xubuntu and don't know how to start the program16:27
xharxi have nothing in the menu16:27
dobeyfagan: have a nice browsable index of everything in ubuntu? and the links would open software center itself for install/payment?16:30
dobeyxharx: 11.04?16:30
xharxdobey, yes16:32
fagandobey: I suppose thats cool16:33
dobeyxharx: did you install ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk?16:38
dobeyfagan: i guess i'm not sure what you were expecting from apt.ubuntu.com16:38
fagandobey: I just want it to do what its doing but look like it wasnt created in 10 mins16:38
dobeylunch time16:40
dobeyxharx: if you install that, u1 should appear wherever preferences are shown in xfce16:40
dobeybbiab16:40
xharxdobey, apt-get install says, i have not installed it. install?16:41
xharxi used a german wiki to install ubuntuone16:42
mandelxharx: I'll pick it up from here since dobey is at lunch16:57
mandelxharx: do install the control panel so that you can see the progress etc16:57
mandelis that what you are looking for?16:58
xharxmost likely :)16:59
xharxim confused, because i did everything like in the wiki16:59
faganEOD17:11
xharxubuntuone runs now on my machine, thx17:18
dobeyi wonder if the wiki perhaps needs updating17:33
dobeyla la la18:47
Escalionhey guys18:53
EscalionAny developers here?18:53
CardinalFangProbably.18:54
EscalionFair enough.18:54
EscalionI'm looking to ask someone if there is an undocumented API18:54
EscalionI'm planning on making a application that syncs with notes for a few different platforms18:55
EscalionBut I can't find a API...18:55
Escalionnobody?18:56
CardinalFangEscalion, for notes, use the Snowy API.18:57
CardinalFangWow.18:58
dobeyheh18:59
thisfredI guess it's not the world's nicest API ;)19:03
CardinalFangThat guy seemed like he'd be fun to work with.  Too bad.19:03
leoHello ... Installed Gnome3 from PPA and I can't login to Ubuntuone ..19:09
leoaccording to launchpad bug 745540 is fixed but I can't login19:11
ubot4`Launchpad bug 745540 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "Method "CreateItem" with signature "a{sv}(oayay)b" on interface "org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist (affects: 11) (heat: 146)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74554019:11
faganleo: its fixed in the dailies I think but I dont know if that was pushed out as an update yet19:14
fagandobey: ^19:14
leofagan: Great so just matter of wait ..  Thank you19:14
* fagan remembers testing the branch 19:14
faganleo: no problem19:15
dobeyit's not exactly fixed. that specific issue is resolved in trunk, but there are others to deal with19:18
dobeylater all22:33
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TrentonDAdamsI started syncing to the tomboy server yesterday at home, with Ubuntu 11.04.  I started syncing here at work today, with the same account, and now tomboy crashed, and won't start backup.23:34
TrentonDAdamscancel that, it's now working.23:36

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