[00:00] <gentoo_drummer> exactly
[00:00] <gentoo_drummer> so this is an official bug?
[00:01] <MK``> I can't go that far, but, try to add the indicator applet. As for xchat, I think that was a separate but possibly related issue in a coding change
[00:02] <MK``> Seems I had to leave before they figured out the xchat issue, ask KM0201 if/when he returns :)
[00:02] <drc> Xchat appears for me in the Notification Area, and <will> minimize when clicked.
[00:04] <gentoo_drummer> i just checkd the show frame and now works...
[00:04] <drc> gentoo_drummer: 32 or 64 bit?
[00:05] <gentoo_drummer> 32
[00:06] <drc> my "show frame" is off/unchecked and the minimize still works...I was just wondering if it was a 32 vs 64 bit thing.
[00:06] <MK``> it rarely is
[00:06] <drc> I use 64 bit, forgot to add
[00:06] <gentoo_drummer> no idea..
[00:06] <Soupermanito> i think is a 11.04 thing, whit the whole drivers issue it seems to be having
[00:06] <drc> MK``: I know, but sometimes it is :)
[00:07] <gentoo_drummer> damn.. im in love with xfce..
[00:08] <Soupermanito> :D
[00:08] <Soupermanito> welcome to the team
[00:08] <drc> gentoo_drummer: be careful, she's a jealous mistress
[00:08] <drc> Don't let her catch you dual booting :(
[00:09] <Soupermanito> :(
[00:10] <Soupermanito> i wonder, is there a way to get that images open whit a wine emulated program, i simply cant stand ristretto, sorry, and i really like irfanview, so i can run irfan pretty well whit wine, but then i dont know how to bind images to be open whit irfan from thunar
[00:12] <drc> Soupermanito: Not sure about with WINE/irfanview, but there are several graphic viewer apps in the software center, and you can bind to them.
[00:12] <drc> Check SC>Graphics>Viewers
[00:13] <Soupermanito> i know, but none of them are good, the only one that is kinda good is the simple view command that uses teh imagemagick engine, but it has a really ugly gui
[00:13] <Soupermanito> if imagemagick had a gtk gui then i would choose that, but it doesnt so i dont
[00:16] <MK``> you can try Eye of GNOME, or Gwenview, the KDE one :P
[00:18] <Soupermanito> you see, i like irfan for 3 reason, 1 you can view images on almost all formats there are out there, 2 you can easily edit, crop/rezise/change color depth/change image quality/save on another format, and 3 you can do all this on batch
[00:19] <MK``> yeah, I have been considering stuff like paint.net and notepad++ via wine
[00:19] <MK``> on windows I always use irfanview for batch
[00:23] <Soupermanito> yes, and ristretto is such a failure on all those aspects, you cant even rotate images, you cant change the format, you cant even make it start on 100% if the image is too big it will rezise it, it wont remember the last position you use for the window, etc, etc
[00:25] <Soupermanito> so then i tried binding the "open whit" option to  >wine '/home/me/.wine/drive_c/Program files/Irfanview/i_view32.exe'
[00:25] <Soupermanito> but it only open a new instance of irfan
[00:27] <drc> Soupermanito: Try adding that command to the image (type) in the Open With> Use a Custom Command.
[00:28] <drc> Never Mind..I was fooled by "open whit" :)
[00:29] <drc> Dinner time
[00:29] <Soupermanito_> oh that was fun
[00:46] <ryan-c> my global shortcut keys don't work in xfce after upgrading to 11.04 from 9.10 (clean install, kept /home)
[00:46] <Soupermanito> rebind them
[00:47] <ryan-c> That doesn't seem to help.
[00:51] <ryan-c> neither does reset to defaults
[00:52] <Soupermanito> mmm weird
[00:53] <ryan-c> I *can* set shortcuts
[01:10] <ryan-c> no ideas? :-(
[01:27] <Soupermanito> ryan-c: im not sure if this will help you, or if its safe to do, but gksudo xfce4-settings-manager             and try again
[01:28] <ryan-c> nope
[01:36] <ryan-c> there are several people posting about this online
[01:36] <ryan-c> no solutions listed
[01:40] <Unit193> Rename your .config dir
[01:40]  * ryan-c cringes
[01:41] <Unit193> ryan-c: You should be able to put it back if it doesn't work
[01:43] <ryan-c> brb
[01:46] <ryan-c> Unit193: moving the keyboard shortcuts xml file and restarting xfce works
[01:47] <Unit193> ryan-c: Glad that helped. You moved everything else back?
[01:47] <ryan-c> no
[01:47] <ryan-c> i only moved that file
[03:10] <iggyology> I just started using xubuntu.  I tried putting Firefox in the launch bar thing and now it only works through the terminal...
[03:11] <iggyology> Can anyone help me get the icon to open the firefox program without using the terminal?
[03:16] <bklive> iggyology, the icon will have a "open in terminal" checkbox
[03:21] <IdleOne> so what you want to do is uncheck that box
[03:24] <iggyology> sorry, i went to ubuntu... i have to check the terminal block to get firefox to even open at all
[03:26] <iggyology> I did an update, do you think the updates messed something up? I know that Unity is buggy and I saw that it was one of the updates.
[03:29] <iggyology> I put a Thunderbird icon in the launch bar and it's doing the same thing... only opens with a terminal window! What the heck is going on?
[03:30] <Josesordo> hello all
[03:30] <Unit193> I don't think you are adding them correctly
[03:32] <Unit193> Adding a launcher?
[03:36] <iggyology> Yes I added a launcher
[03:36] <iggyology> I don't think I added them correctly either
[03:38] <iggyology> I just deleted them... I'll have to use the applications menu
[03:38] <iggyology> I wanted it to be like the windows quicklaunch bar
[03:39] <iggyology> oh great, now the applications menu icon isn't working either!
[03:40] <Unit193> Firefox?
[03:40] <iggyology> firefox and thunderbird both are dead
[03:42] <iggyology> I had the same problem with ubuntu and Unity with the globalthing
[03:44] <iggyology> how can I roll back an update! I think that's what fudged me
[03:45] <Unit193> You would have to find what you updated and remove it? (cat /var/log/dpkg.log)
[03:46] <iggyology> oh great, there isn't an easier way?
[03:47] <iggyology> So what do i do with all that command line crap?
[03:49] <Unit193> You might be better off if someone else helps...
[03:49] <iggyology> ok, thanks for being honest
[03:49] <bklive> iggyology, okay apparently you're having a problem opening firefox yes?
[03:49] <bklive> but when you run it from the terminal it DOES open?
[03:50] <Unit193> Sound like .desktop file is messed up?
[03:50] <bklive> that, or you could have set up your link incorrectly. the "command" should be "firefox". yes?
[03:51] <iggyology> it does open from the terminal, the command isn't just "firefox"
[03:52] <bklive> if you put firefox in the command field of the link you put that will work
[03:54] <iggyology> ughhh.. .this linux stuff is too damn much... takes too damn much time to screw with
[03:54] <iggyology> no it didn't work
[03:55] <iggyology> it's the damn unity update
[03:55] <Unit193> How did you get Unity in Xubuntu?
[03:55] <iggyology> damn piece of crap that ubuntu put out as refined when it should have been called beta imo
[03:55] <iggyology> I was retarted and let it update
[03:55]  * Unit193 still hasn't touched it
[03:56] <iggyology> as soon as the update was done my system was fu**ed
[03:56] <iggyology> I don't want to have to go to college for this crap...
[03:57] <iggyology> I just want to escape windows
[03:57]  * kuakkganni thinks if this is confusing iggyology, he doesn't want to see him take calculus, differential equations or molecular biology
[03:58] <Unit193> **might not be the best idea!! sudo apt-get purge unity
[03:58] <iggyology> I'm taking calculus
[03:58] <iggyology> I have a great life... that's why I don't have time for this sh**
[03:59] <Liv-> whoa... I was gonna ask opinions about the new version hehe
[03:59] <Liv-> is it that bad?
[03:59] <iggyology> run away liv
[03:59] <kuakkganni> How did  you get Unity in an Xubuntu upgrade?
[03:59] <iggyology> yes
[03:59] <Unit193> Unity is halfbaked(?)
[03:59] <iggyology> I have no freakin clue why Unity popped up in an xubuntu upgrade
[04:00] <iggyology> that's the mystery here to me too
[04:00] <Unit193> Liv-: Xubuntu 11.04 seems nice to me
[04:00] <iggyology> All I know is that the 2 programs I use the most are now doa
[04:01] <iggyology> thanks to some teams bright idea to put out a the global#$@ thing
[04:01] <Liv-> I've been watching some videos and it looks good
[04:01] <iggyology> it's the way the global$#@# thing works
[04:01] <iggyology> I've had 4 very experience people tell me to avoid it like the plague
[04:01] <Liv-> you're really mad :/
[04:01] <kuakkganni> iggyology: What <are> you talking about?
[04:01] <iggyology> Now I have the plague
[04:02] <kuakkganni> Bring out your dead
[04:02] <iggyology> I'm talking about some new thing that canonical released with their new natty desktop
[04:02] <Unit193> kuakkganni: I'm not dead yet! I feel like going for a walk!
[04:02] <iggyology> it's buggy and they know it
[04:02] <iggyology> I feel haaapppyyyyyy
[04:02] <iggyology> not
[04:03] <kuakkganni> iggyology: there is <no> unity in Xubuntu, do you have both ubuntu and xubuntu installed?
[04:03] <iggyology> Nope, I installed xubuntu on a flash drive with a usb installer that was linked from the ubuntu website
[04:04] <iggyology> everything was great until I touched it
[04:04] <iggyology> it shits on noobs
[04:04] <kuakkganni> iggyology: language!
[04:04] <iggyology> sorry
[04:05] <iggyology> I'm just mad because I've been messing with this stuff all day...
[04:05] <iggyology> alllllllllll daaayyyyyyyy
[04:05] <kuakkganni> iggyology: Settle down and treat his like a problem to be solved.  What was your starting state, what did you do and what was the result?
[04:06] <iggyology> I started by pulling Firefox and Thunderbird out of the applications menu and putting them on the desktop
[04:06] <iggyology> that was fine
[04:06] <iggyology> then I tried putting them in the launch bar
[04:07] <iggyology> sure they went... visually, but not in actuality
[04:07] <iggyology> as soon as I canned the desktop icons...
[04:07] <iggyology> oh ... sorry... no more ability to use those 2 programs... too bad!
[04:08] <kuakkganni> What version of Xubuntu are you using?
[04:08] <iggyology> Windows quicklaunch doesn't give me these problems. And if the icon is broken I know where to go in the progams folder to point the shortcut in the right direction
[04:08] <iggyology> I'm using the latest xubuntu
[04:08] <kuakkganni> And what is the latest?
[04:09] <iggyology> oh heck.. where do I find that?
[04:09] <iggyology> 11.4 maybe, I don't know
[04:09] <iggyology> I got it off the website today
[04:09] <Unit193> lsb_release -a
[04:10] <iggyology> and honestly if Linux never goes mainstream, this is why... people don't have time for this crap
[04:11] <iggyology> ignore my emotions.. and realize that it's true
[04:11] <kuakkganni> then go back to windows
[04:11] <iggyology> no kidding
[04:11] <iggyology> I'm going to have to
[04:11] <iggyology> but it's sad because the concept of Linux is right
[04:11] <iggyology> it's just the practise that is flawed
[04:11] <Unit193> I didn't have issues like you did... I don't know
[04:12] <kuakkganni> you still haven't told us whay version....
[04:12] <iggyology> there's like a friggin million Linux things... ubuntu xubuntu fedora....
[04:12] <iggyology> I don't know where to see my version......
[04:12] <kuakkganni> iggyology: If you want to rant, go some where else to do it, if you want help answer our questions
[04:12] <kuakkganni> As was said earlier   lsb_release -a in a terminal
[04:13] <iggyology> I'm just mad because it's like the blind leading the blind all damn day
[04:13] <iggyology> sorry
[04:14] <iggyology> I think I'm going to have to find a Linux group that I can physically meet with
[04:14] <iggyology> if I'm going to even do this
[04:14] <kuakkganni> OK, if you don't have time to help us help you, neither do I. Enjoy your rants.
[04:15] <iggyology> Look. If I say something that makes sense, and you call it a rant, and your life sucks because you live under a rock... I don't want to hear you cry
[04:15] <Unit193> iggyology: At first it would be best to dual boot
[04:15] <Unit193> ...or not...
[04:16]  * kuakkganni would actually like to be a fly on the wall <if> he ever actually went to a linux group meeting
[04:17] <kuakkganni> he == iggyology
[04:23] <Souperman> oh but some lugs are fun
[04:23] <kuakkganni> Of course, but with that attitude, in person, they'd probably eat him alive :)
[04:26] <kuakkganni> Speaking of eating....
[04:30] <Josesordo> I installed compiz in xubuntu 11.04.. but seems like dont work =(
[04:30] <Souperman> so in a string when i want that something takes a variable, it being the filepath to a file, witch is that variable? $a?
[04:31] <Souperman> Josesordo, do you have updated video drivers? do you have composition enabled? do you installed ccsm?
[04:31] <Unit193> Isn't $f (or %f)? (f = file)
[04:31] <Souperman> checking
[04:33] <xubuntu030-Chris> Hi!
[04:34] <Unit193> Howdy xubuntu030-Chris
[04:34] <Souperman> none of those both work :(
[04:34] <Unit193> Hello jgould
[04:35] <Souperman> i want to gave it as a variable on the open with string, it being like >wine '/path/to/exe.exe' %?
[04:35] <xubuntu030-Chris> installing xubuntu.. deleted Win7 (15G hog!) Ubuntu - 2G
[04:35] <Souperman> :D
[04:35] <xubuntu030-Chris> browsing the web while installing... kooky :)
[04:35] <Unit193> xubuntu030-Chris: Are you sure you didn't want to dual boot at first?
[04:35] <xubuntu030-Chris> No room to.
[04:36] <xubuntu030-Chris> 15G netbook flash drive...
[04:36] <Unit193> Welcome to Xubuntu!
[04:36] <xubuntu030-Chris> Thanks!
[04:36] <Souperman> :D
[04:36] <Souperman> congrats
[04:36] <xubuntu030-Chris> Will the window manage be the dark theme I saw in screenshots or is that an option?
[04:37] <Josesordo> Souperman, mm.. I updated video drivers.. and this what I did atm --> http://bit.ly/mnk2Hm
[04:37] <Unit193> xubuntu030-Chris: You can also have in #xubuntu-offtopic if you would like
[04:37] <Unit193> xubuntu030-Chris: You should have that option
[04:38] <xubuntu030-Chris> Sorry this was the default channel the installer dropped me into.
[04:39] <Unit193> xubuntu030-Chris: Don't be sorry, just saying you can also go there if you wish
[04:40] <xubuntu030-Chris> Ah, thanks again.
[04:45] <shergill_> <<-- linux noob :hey guys
[04:45] <shergill_> how u doin
[04:45] <Unit193> Howdy shergill_
[04:45] <shergill_> just installed xubuntu..10.4
[04:46] <shergill_> i need some help..
[04:46] <shergill_> cant see my other drives..
[04:46] <Unit193> !ask
[04:47] <shergill_> i can only see my system drive..in windows i had c d e f..xubuntu is installed on f..and i can only see f here..
[04:47] <shergill_> what to do?
[04:48] <Unit193> I think Gigolo might have them Menu > System > Gigolo
[04:48] <Unit193> Or in terminal: sudo fdisk -l
[04:48] <shergill_> u rock man..i found it in gigolo
[04:48] <Souperman> Josesordo, you enabled the composition from the xfce4-settings-manager?
[04:48] <shergill_> funny name gigolo..
[04:49] <shergill_> hahahaha
[04:49] <Unit193> shergill_: Glad I'm of some use!
[04:49] <shergill_> can i somehow put in on desktop?
[04:50] <Josesordo> Souperman, well, how I do that?.. and no, I did not
[04:51] <Souperman> go to configuration and choose configuration manager, or simply run >xfce4-settings-manager on a console
[04:52] <Souperman> then on windows manager settings go to the last tab thats >compositor and enable it
[04:52] <shergill_> @unit193 thanks mate how can i mount these drives which i found in gigolo?
[04:53] <Unit193> shergill_: You can't double click them?
[04:54] <shergill_> i can but i had like them in "places " or my desktop..i dont feel like starting gigolo everytime..is it possible?
[04:54] <Unit193> !fstab
[04:54] <Unit193> I think that might do it...
[04:55] <Unit193> They mount at ~/.gvfs/
[04:55] <shergill_> ok thanks lemme take a look at it..
[04:55] <Josesordo> Souperman, Windows manager tweaks --> Compositor is enable.. I need to disable to compiz can work?
[04:56] <Souperman> no
[04:56] <Souperman> you need it enabled
[04:56] <Souperman> if it is then you have compiz, now whit ccsm you can enable more fancy stuff
[04:59] <Josesordo> Soupermanito, well I have effects ON .. even the desktop cube..and nothing yet =( ..
[05:03] <Soupermanito> :(
[05:14] <Josesordo> Soupermanito, mm.. I got it.. I needed to enable "Indirect Rendering"
[05:15] <Josesordo> Soupermanito, and Enable "Compiz" in Windows Manager.. but my theme get broken..windows border dissapear.. =(
[05:16] <Soupermanito> yes, that happened to other people, i can't help you there, there is some solution, other people her knows, they might not be here rigth now
[05:16] <Soupermanito> here^
[05:17] <Josesordo> ah ok.. thanks a lot =)
[05:21] <Soupermanito> not a problem. sorry for not being of more help
[06:11] <new_kid1> How to get the terminal in Ubuntu Minimal Install ???
[06:11] <new_kid1> Is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Minimal insatall ??
[06:12] <Unit193> You can ask in #ubuntu
[06:13] <new_kid1> Unit193: Nobody answered
[06:13] <Unit193> Did you read !mini?
[06:13] <new_kid1> Unit193: Yes
[06:14] <new_kid1> Unit193: All I want to do is configure  pppoe
[06:14] <new_kid1> Unit193:So that I can download the packages for installation
[06:15] <Unit193> new_kid1: Can't you drop into Aptitude?
[06:16] <new_kid1> Unit193: All the installtion does is dectecs DHCP settings &  give the package installation window
[06:16] <new_kid1> Unit193: I need a working DSL connection first
[06:17] <Unit193> new_kid1: I can't help you there...
[06:17] <new_kid1> Unit193: Okay
[06:48] <mikubuntu> anybody know an android help channel name?
[06:51] <Unit193> mikubuntu: type /msg alis help
[06:53] <mikubuntu> Unit193, hmmmm
[06:55] <mikubuntu> Unit193: guess there is none, says returning max of 60 channel names matching android, but there is no return output
[06:55] <mikubuntu> but, thx anyways
[06:58] <Unit193> mikubuntu: /msg alis list * -topic *android*help*
[06:58] <Unit193> mikubuntu: That will give it to you
[07:01] <mikubuntu> thx Unit193
[07:03] <Unit193> I'm here to help! (I guess with Andriod too ;) )
[07:11] <mikubuntu> Unit193: kool, if you can take a question on android -- for awhile now various sharing apps not working on my lg optimus 'm' (for metropcs) -- can't send pix from phone to email or fb or other sites -- neither ymail nor gmail seem to work
[07:12] <Unit193> You may want to ask in one of the Android help/support channels...
[07:13] <mikubuntu> k, think i found one at #alldroid
[11:25] <mikeea> bedtime for me, later all>
[11:42] <xharx> can i  use ubuntu one under xubuntu?
[11:45] <ochosi> xharx: afaik yes
[11:54] <xharx> i installed it and cant start it, do you know how?
[12:49] <MK``> xharx: you need to select it at the login screen
[12:49] <MK``> When you enter your username a menu appears at the bottom of the screen to select which desktop to use
[12:49] <MK``> er
[12:49] <MK``> Ubuntu one?
[12:49] <MK``> buh, nevermind, misread
[12:49] <MK``> haven't had a lot of sleep X)
[12:49] <MK``> is it not in the menu xharx?
[12:51] <bazhang_> xharx, try #ubuntuone
[14:59] <b26> well ARandR didn't save the dual monitor configuration for boot this time around
[14:59] <b26> got stuck with the dual monitors mirroring instead of being extended.. any ideas?
[15:00] <Sysi> xrandr script, i think arandr can generate it
[15:05] <b26> Sysi: how can i do that?
[15:05] <b26> also, where does it get stored
[15:07] <Sysi> i don't use arandr, iirc there's some button
[15:07] <b26> iirc?
[15:07] <Sysi> if i remember/recall correctly
[15:17] <b26> i don't have the preferences menu either
[15:17] <b26> this shit is starting to be really annoying
[15:18] <Sysi> what do you mean by preferences menu?
[15:18] <b26> i found: Go to System >> Preferences >> Startup Applications
[15:18] <b26> and you can put the saved layout to boot up
[15:18] <b26> except don't have Preferences under system
[15:19] <Sysi> it shouldn't be under system
[15:20] <b26> where would it be then?
[15:20] <Sysi> menu → settings/preferences → sessions and startup → autostart-tab
[15:22] <b26> negative
[15:24] <Sysi> maybe menu → settings → settings
[15:24] <drc> Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Sessions and Startup
[15:24] <b26> yeah its under settings manager
[15:24] <b26> why so many menus
[15:24] <b26> heh
[15:24] <b26> jesus
[15:24] <Sysi> still completely logical
[15:25] <drc> b26: Menus are what GNOME3/Unity is trying to get away from :)
[15:26] <b26> yeah i don't like it either
[15:26] <b26> installed 11.04, tried unity for 5mins and going back to gnome
[15:26] <drc> Some of us are more comfortable with menus, which is why xfce is getting much more attention these days.
[15:27] <b26> yeah, i like my menus
[15:27] <Sysi> i don't like menus, i still use xfce
[15:28] <Sysi> unity isn't that bad, but kde-netbook is similar and better
[15:30] <b26> i just don't like the look and the drastic change unity is
[15:30] <drc> Sysi: I am holding my judgement on GNOME3/Unity for the next release...it's not mature enough yet for a true evaluation, hence my using Xubuntu.
[15:30] <b26> i feel like im using an ipad
[15:31] <drc> b26: MarkS will be happy, I've read that that is exactly what they were going for.
[15:32] <drc> Speaking of releases, why does xfce release in even numbers only (4.4, 4.6, 4.8, 4.10) ?
[15:35] <nbettenh> Is there a way to enable scrolling in vim?
[15:37] <nbettenh> I've been reading about a patch that enabled alt window scroll, but it looks like it was removed from the current version of xfce4-terminal due to a glitch in the preferences window
[15:42] <Sysi> drc: even number versions are stable, others devel versions (i need to ask if they're changing it for 4.10)
[15:43] <Sysi> b26: but isn't ipad nice to use? :P
[15:44] <drc> Sysi: According to their roadmap they are, nect spring, with gtk3
[15:45]  * drc is pretending he's on Win95...reboot :)
[15:51] <b26> i like the ipad, and its design for the ipad
[15:51] <b26> i don't like using my computer like an ipad
[16:03] <drc> Here's a question:  Assume I have Ubuntu 10.10 and Xubuntu 10.10 installed (not dual boot, just install the -desktop of the second distro), I boot into Xubuntu, and upgrade to 11.04.  Does ubuntu get upgraded to 11.04?
[16:03] <Sysi> of course
[16:04] <drc> I <thought> so, was just wondering.
[16:13] <b26> anyone have trouble launching Thunar from Docky?
[16:25] <xharx> thx
[18:55] <BigPalabra> hi
[18:56] <Soupermanito> sup
[18:58] <likemindead> Possibly the best meteor shower of 2011 tonight! >> http://www.spacedex.com/eta-aquarids/
[18:58] <likemindead> Derr... sorry, wrong window. :-\
[19:20] <Dezine> The icons on the bottom launcher used to be centered and now they're not how do I get it back?
[19:21] <Dezine> nevermind figured it out
[19:21] <Dezine> Must have told the spacer now to auto expand
[19:21] <Dezine> not*
[19:23] <vabigoon> hi is there any good wine howto, for newbie in the web?
[19:24] <likemindead> !wine
[19:25] <Dezine> vabigoon, you can try the Wine wiki too http://wiki.winehq.org/
[19:25] <vabigoon> thank you :D I'll try to play Diablo 2 now >:D
[19:37] <likemindead> Terminal command for checking system temps?
[19:41] <Sysi> 'sensors'
[19:41] <Sysi> might require installing and configuring lm-sensors
[19:41] <likemindead> Thanks!
[19:42] <Sysi> (install, run sensors-detectct, ansver yes to everything and reboot)
[19:42] <likemindead> Is acpi helpful?
[19:43] <Sysi> you might have something under /proc/acpi/ but you want lm-sensors
[19:43] <likemindead> Roger.
[20:03] <b26> anyone know how to move Docky from 1 monitor to the next? I tried clicking on it and dragging, but no luck
[20:04] <b26> nothing is present in the settings about placement besides vertical or horizontal
[20:07] <[micro]> gonna install it on the netbook, lets see how it works
[20:08] <Sysi> b26: do you happen to have menu in docky?
[20:12] <Sysi> b26: i'm wondering if it works with xfce, gnome-docks fail with menu
[20:13] <Soupermanito> i have a question, you see, when i plug in a pendrive and copy paste files into it, they instantaneously appear as copied, whit no "Copying" window, then i dont know when the copying ended :(
[20:15] <Sysi> they're copied too fast
[20:15] <Sysi> you should get window if you copy larger files
[20:17] <Soupermanito> but they're not copied, if i try to umount the pendrive it says "bussy"
[20:21] <Sysi> sticks are slow, little buffering time
[20:21] <Sysi> you don't have flashing light in yours?
[20:25] <b26> its the docky from https://launchpad.net/docky
[20:26] <b26> it worked fine yesterday, but since i hooked up my 2nd monitor when i got back into work before booting it ended up over there
[20:27] <b26> if that's the case, is there a better dock app for use with xubuntu?
[20:36] <erika_> when I insert an usb stick with an iso9660 filesystem the drive gets opened infinitely often
[20:36] <erika_> I can only stop the process by pulling out the usb stick
[20:36] <erika_> and then I have to close 1000 windows
[20:43] <Soupermanito> :/
[20:44] <Soupermanito> yeah i just wants a >Copying windows
[20:54] <b26> gonna give avant a shot
[21:05] <linux_novice_> Hello, could anybody spare some time to discuss installing Xubuntu on Virtualbox, in a Windows host. I've come across an issue after the installer finishes and Xubuntu tries to restart. The desktop disappears but hangs at what looks like a terminal screen with the following text. http://tinypaste.com/4d70b1
[21:06] <linux_novice_> Is that normal? Is it OK to hard reset the VM?
[21:06] <knome> linux_novice_, i'd suggest that first yeah
[21:07] <b26> you did a shutdown -h
[21:07] <b26> instead of a shutdown -r now
[21:07] <linux_novice_> I restarted from the desktop (XFCE), cause it said it needed to restart after installing.
[21:08] <linux_novice_> I was wondering if doing a reset would harm the installation of if that was OK.
[21:08] <b26>    -h     Requests  that  the system be either halted or powered off after
[21:08] <b26>               it has been brought down, with the choice as to which left up to
[21:08] <b26>               the system.
[21:08] <b26>        -H     Requests  that  the  system  be halted after it has been brought
[21:08] <b26>               down.
[21:09] <b26> that's taken from man shutdown
[21:09] <b26> 'man shutdown'
[21:09] <b26> which is the manual regarding the shutdwon command
[21:12] <linux_novice_> I haven't made myself clear, I restarted from the GUI, cause there was a notification saying that the OS needed to restart to complete the installation. I didn't issue a text/terminal command. The XFCE desktop disappears but the VM doesn't restart, just gets stuck with the message I posted above.
[21:13] <ryan-c> does mousepad segfault for anyone else on natty?
[21:15] <knome> b26, please use !pastebin for multiline pastes
[21:18] <AdmiralVorian> hey everyone, I'm trying to force-install an i386 package on natty 64 bit, i try ignore-depends but I still get a list of dependency issues and "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured "