[00:00] exactly [00:00] so this is an official bug? [00:01] I can't go that far, but, try to add the indicator applet. As for xchat, I think that was a separate but possibly related issue in a coding change [00:02] Seems I had to leave before they figured out the xchat issue, ask KM0201 if/when he returns :) [00:02] Xchat appears for me in the Notification Area, and minimize when clicked. [00:04] i just checkd the show frame and now works... [00:04] gentoo_drummer: 32 or 64 bit? [00:05] 32 [00:06] my "show frame" is off/unchecked and the minimize still works...I was just wondering if it was a 32 vs 64 bit thing. [00:06] it rarely is [00:06] I use 64 bit, forgot to add [00:06] no idea.. [00:06] i think is a 11.04 thing, whit the whole drivers issue it seems to be having [00:06] MK``: I know, but sometimes it is :) [00:07] damn.. im in love with xfce.. [00:08] :D [00:08] welcome to the team [00:08] gentoo_drummer: be careful, she's a jealous mistress [00:08] Don't let her catch you dual booting :( [00:09] :( [00:10] i wonder, is there a way to get that images open whit a wine emulated program, i simply cant stand ristretto, sorry, and i really like irfanview, so i can run irfan pretty well whit wine, but then i dont know how to bind images to be open whit irfan from thunar [00:12] Soupermanito: Not sure about with WINE/irfanview, but there are several graphic viewer apps in the software center, and you can bind to them. [00:12] Check SC>Graphics>Viewers [00:13] i know, but none of them are good, the only one that is kinda good is the simple view command that uses teh imagemagick engine, but it has a really ugly gui [00:13] if imagemagick had a gtk gui then i would choose that, but it doesnt so i dont [00:16] you can try Eye of GNOME, or Gwenview, the KDE one :P [00:18] you see, i like irfan for 3 reason, 1 you can view images on almost all formats there are out there, 2 you can easily edit, crop/rezise/change color depth/change image quality/save on another format, and 3 you can do all this on batch [00:19] yeah, I have been considering stuff like paint.net and notepad++ via wine [00:19] on windows I always use irfanview for batch [00:23] yes, and ristretto is such a failure on all those aspects, you cant even rotate images, you cant change the format, you cant even make it start on 100% if the image is too big it will rezise it, it wont remember the last position you use for the window, etc, etc [00:25] so then i tried binding the "open whit" option to >wine '/home/me/.wine/drive_c/Program files/Irfanview/i_view32.exe' [00:25] but it only open a new instance of irfan [00:27] Soupermanito: Try adding that command to the image (type) in the Open With> Use a Custom Command. [00:28] Never Mind..I was fooled by "open whit" :) [00:29] Dinner time [00:29] oh that was fun === Soupermanito_ is now known as Soupermanito [00:46] my global shortcut keys don't work in xfce after upgrading to 11.04 from 9.10 (clean install, kept /home) [00:46] rebind them [00:47] That doesn't seem to help. [00:51] neither does reset to defaults [00:52] mmm weird [00:53] I *can* set shortcuts [01:10] no ideas? :-( [01:27] ryan-c: im not sure if this will help you, or if its safe to do, but gksudo xfce4-settings-manager and try again [01:28] nope [01:36] there are several people posting about this online [01:36] no solutions listed [01:40] Rename your .config dir [01:40] * ryan-c cringes [01:41] ryan-c: You should be able to put it back if it doesn't work [01:43] brb [01:46] Unit193: moving the keyboard shortcuts xml file and restarting xfce works [01:47] ryan-c: Glad that helped. You moved everything else back? [01:47] no [01:47] i only moved that file === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === m00se is now known as judgejudy === judgejudy is now known as m00se [03:10] I just started using xubuntu. I tried putting Firefox in the launch bar thing and now it only works through the terminal... [03:11] Can anyone help me get the icon to open the firefox program without using the terminal? [03:16] iggyology, the icon will have a "open in terminal" checkbox [03:21] so what you want to do is uncheck that box [03:24] sorry, i went to ubuntu... i have to check the terminal block to get firefox to even open at all [03:26] I did an update, do you think the updates messed something up? I know that Unity is buggy and I saw that it was one of the updates. [03:29] I put a Thunderbird icon in the launch bar and it's doing the same thing... only opens with a terminal window! What the heck is going on? [03:30] hello all [03:30] I don't think you are adding them correctly [03:32] Adding a launcher? [03:36] Yes I added a launcher [03:36] I don't think I added them correctly either [03:38] I just deleted them... I'll have to use the applications menu [03:38] I wanted it to be like the windows quicklaunch bar [03:39] oh great, now the applications menu icon isn't working either! [03:40] Firefox? [03:40] firefox and thunderbird both are dead [03:42] I had the same problem with ubuntu and Unity with the globalthing [03:44] how can I roll back an update! I think that's what fudged me [03:45] You would have to find what you updated and remove it? (cat /var/log/dpkg.log) [03:46] oh great, there isn't an easier way? [03:47] So what do i do with all that command line crap? [03:49] You might be better off if someone else helps... [03:49] ok, thanks for being honest [03:49] iggyology, okay apparently you're having a problem opening firefox yes? [03:49] but when you run it from the terminal it DOES open? [03:50] Sound like .desktop file is messed up? [03:50] that, or you could have set up your link incorrectly. the "command" should be "firefox". yes? [03:51] it does open from the terminal, the command isn't just "firefox" [03:52] if you put firefox in the command field of the link you put that will work [03:54] ughhh.. .this linux stuff is too damn much... takes too damn much time to screw with [03:54] no it didn't work [03:55] it's the damn unity update [03:55] How did you get Unity in Xubuntu? [03:55] damn piece of crap that ubuntu put out as refined when it should have been called beta imo [03:55] I was retarted and let it update [03:55] * Unit193 still hasn't touched it [03:56] as soon as the update was done my system was fu**ed [03:56] I don't want to have to go to college for this crap... [03:57] I just want to escape windows [03:57] * kuakkganni thinks if this is confusing iggyology, he doesn't want to see him take calculus, differential equations or molecular biology [03:58] **might not be the best idea!! sudo apt-get purge unity [03:58] I'm taking calculus [03:58] I have a great life... that's why I don't have time for this sh** [03:59] whoa... I was gonna ask opinions about the new version hehe [03:59] is it that bad? [03:59] run away liv [03:59] How did you get Unity in an Xubuntu upgrade? [03:59] yes [03:59] Unity is halfbaked(?) [03:59] I have no freakin clue why Unity popped up in an xubuntu upgrade [04:00] that's the mystery here to me too [04:00] Liv-: Xubuntu 11.04 seems nice to me [04:00] All I know is that the 2 programs I use the most are now doa [04:01] thanks to some teams bright idea to put out a the global#$@ thing [04:01] I've been watching some videos and it looks good [04:01] it's the way the global$#@# thing works [04:01] I've had 4 very experience people tell me to avoid it like the plague [04:01] you're really mad :/ [04:01] iggyology: What you talking about? [04:01] Now I have the plague [04:02] Bring out your dead [04:02] I'm talking about some new thing that canonical released with their new natty desktop [04:02] kuakkganni: I'm not dead yet! I feel like going for a walk! [04:02] it's buggy and they know it [04:02] I feel haaapppyyyyyy [04:02] not [04:03] iggyology: there is unity in Xubuntu, do you have both ubuntu and xubuntu installed? [04:03] Nope, I installed xubuntu on a flash drive with a usb installer that was linked from the ubuntu website [04:04] everything was great until I touched it [04:04] it shits on noobs [04:04] iggyology: language! [04:04] sorry [04:05] I'm just mad because I've been messing with this stuff all day... [04:05] alllllllllll daaayyyyyyyy [04:05] iggyology: Settle down and treat his like a problem to be solved. What was your starting state, what did you do and what was the result? [04:06] I started by pulling Firefox and Thunderbird out of the applications menu and putting them on the desktop [04:06] that was fine [04:06] then I tried putting them in the launch bar [04:07] sure they went... visually, but not in actuality [04:07] as soon as I canned the desktop icons... [04:07] oh ... sorry... no more ability to use those 2 programs... too bad! [04:08] What version of Xubuntu are you using? [04:08] Windows quicklaunch doesn't give me these problems. And if the icon is broken I know where to go in the progams folder to point the shortcut in the right direction [04:08] I'm using the latest xubuntu [04:08] And what is the latest? [04:09] oh heck.. where do I find that? [04:09] 11.4 maybe, I don't know [04:09] I got it off the website today [04:09] lsb_release -a [04:10] and honestly if Linux never goes mainstream, this is why... people don't have time for this crap [04:11] ignore my emotions.. and realize that it's true [04:11] then go back to windows [04:11] no kidding [04:11] I'm going to have to [04:11] but it's sad because the concept of Linux is right [04:11] it's just the practise that is flawed [04:11] I didn't have issues like you did... I don't know [04:12] you still haven't told us whay version.... [04:12] there's like a friggin million Linux things... ubuntu xubuntu fedora.... [04:12] I don't know where to see my version...... [04:12] iggyology: If you want to rant, go some where else to do it, if you want help answer our questions [04:12] As was said earlier lsb_release -a in a terminal [04:13] I'm just mad because it's like the blind leading the blind all damn day [04:13] sorry [04:14] I think I'm going to have to find a Linux group that I can physically meet with [04:14] if I'm going to even do this [04:14] OK, if you don't have time to help us help you, neither do I. Enjoy your rants. [04:15] Look. If I say something that makes sense, and you call it a rant, and your life sucks because you live under a rock... I don't want to hear you cry [04:15] iggyology: At first it would be best to dual boot [04:15] ...or not... [04:16] * kuakkganni would actually like to be a fly on the wall he ever actually went to a linux group meeting [04:17] he == iggyology [04:23] oh but some lugs are fun [04:23] Of course, but with that attitude, in person, they'd probably eat him alive :) [04:26] Speaking of eating.... [04:30] I installed compiz in xubuntu 11.04.. but seems like dont work =( [04:30] so in a string when i want that something takes a variable, it being the filepath to a file, witch is that variable? $a? [04:31] Josesordo, do you have updated video drivers? do you have composition enabled? do you installed ccsm? [04:31] Isn't $f (or %f)? (f = file) [04:31] checking [04:33] Hi! [04:34] Howdy xubuntu030-Chris [04:34] none of those both work :( [04:34] Hello jgould [04:35] i want to gave it as a variable on the open with string, it being like >wine '/path/to/exe.exe' %? [04:35] installing xubuntu.. deleted Win7 (15G hog!) Ubuntu - 2G [04:35] :D [04:35] browsing the web while installing... kooky :) [04:35] xubuntu030-Chris: Are you sure you didn't want to dual boot at first? [04:35] No room to. [04:36] 15G netbook flash drive... [04:36] Welcome to Xubuntu! [04:36] Thanks! [04:36] :D [04:36] congrats [04:36] Will the window manage be the dark theme I saw in screenshots or is that an option? [04:37] Souperman, mm.. I updated video drivers.. and this what I did atm --> http://bit.ly/mnk2Hm [04:37] xubuntu030-Chris: You can also have in #xubuntu-offtopic if you would like [04:37] xubuntu030-Chris: You should have that option [04:38] Sorry this was the default channel the installer dropped me into. [04:39] xubuntu030-Chris: Don't be sorry, just saying you can also go there if you wish [04:40] Ah, thanks again. [04:45] <<-- linux noob :hey guys [04:45] how u doin [04:45] Howdy shergill_ [04:45] just installed xubuntu..10.4 [04:46] i need some help.. [04:46] cant see my other drives.. [04:46] !ask [04:46] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [04:47] i can only see my system drive..in windows i had c d e f..xubuntu is installed on f..and i can only see f here.. [04:47] what to do? [04:48] I think Gigolo might have them Menu > System > Gigolo [04:48] Or in terminal: sudo fdisk -l [04:48] u rock man..i found it in gigolo [04:48] Josesordo, you enabled the composition from the xfce4-settings-manager? [04:48] funny name gigolo.. [04:49] hahahaha [04:49] shergill_: Glad I'm of some use! [04:49] can i somehow put in on desktop? [04:50] Souperman, well, how I do that?.. and no, I did not [04:51] go to configuration and choose configuration manager, or simply run >xfce4-settings-manager on a console [04:52] then on windows manager settings go to the last tab thats >compositor and enable it [04:52] @unit193 thanks mate how can i mount these drives which i found in gigolo? [04:53] shergill_: You can't double click them? [04:54] i can but i had like them in "places " or my desktop..i dont feel like starting gigolo everytime..is it possible? [04:54] !fstab [04:54] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [04:54] I think that might do it... [04:55] They mount at ~/.gvfs/ [04:55] ok thanks lemme take a look at it.. [04:55] Souperman, Windows manager tweaks --> Compositor is enable.. I need to disable to compiz can work? [04:56] no [04:56] you need it enabled [04:56] if it is then you have compiz, now whit ccsm you can enable more fancy stuff === Souperman is now known as Soupermanito [04:59] Soupermanito, well I have effects ON .. even the desktop cube..and nothing yet =( .. [05:03] :( [05:14] Soupermanito, mm.. I got it.. I needed to enable "Indirect Rendering" [05:15] Soupermanito, and Enable "Compiz" in Windows Manager.. but my theme get broken..windows border dissapear.. =( [05:16] yes, that happened to other people, i can't help you there, there is some solution, other people her knows, they might not be here rigth now [05:16] here^ [05:17] ah ok.. thanks a lot =) [05:21] not a problem. sorry for not being of more help [06:11] How to get the terminal in Ubuntu Minimal Install ??? [06:11] Is there a separate channel for Ubuntu Minimal insatall ?? [06:12] You can ask in #ubuntu [06:13] Unit193: Nobody answered [06:13] Did you read !mini? [06:13] Unit193: Yes [06:14] Unit193: All I want to do is configure pppoe [06:14] Unit193:So that I can download the packages for installation [06:15] new_kid1: Can't you drop into Aptitude? [06:16] Unit193: All the installtion does is dectecs DHCP settings & give the package installation window [06:16] Unit193: I need a working DSL connection first [06:17] new_kid1: I can't help you there... [06:17] Unit193: Okay [06:48] anybody know an android help channel name? [06:51] mikubuntu: type /msg alis help [06:53] Unit193, hmmmm [06:55] Unit193: guess there is none, says returning max of 60 channel names matching android, but there is no return output [06:55] but, thx anyways [06:58] mikubuntu: /msg alis list * -topic *android*help* [06:58] mikubuntu: That will give it to you [07:01] thx Unit193 [07:03] I'm here to help! (I guess with Andriod too ;) ) [07:11] Unit193: kool, if you can take a question on android -- for awhile now various sharing apps not working on my lg optimus 'm' (for metropcs) -- can't send pix from phone to email or fb or other sites -- neither ymail nor gmail seem to work [07:12] You may want to ask in one of the Android help/support channels... [07:13] k, think i found one at #alldroid [11:25] bedtime for me, later all> === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [11:42] can i use ubuntu one under xubuntu? [11:45] xharx: afaik yes [11:54] i installed it and cant start it, do you know how? [12:49] xharx: you need to select it at the login screen [12:49] When you enter your username a menu appears at the bottom of the screen to select which desktop to use [12:49] er [12:49] Ubuntu one? [12:49] buh, nevermind, misread [12:49] haven't had a lot of sleep X) [12:49] is it not in the menu xharx? [12:51] xharx, try #ubuntuone [14:59] well ARandR didn't save the dual monitor configuration for boot this time around [14:59] got stuck with the dual monitors mirroring instead of being extended.. any ideas? [15:00] xrandr script, i think arandr can generate it [15:05] Sysi: how can i do that? [15:05] also, where does it get stored [15:07] i don't use arandr, iirc there's some button [15:07] iirc? [15:07] if i remember/recall correctly [15:17] i don't have the preferences menu either [15:17] this shit is starting to be really annoying [15:18] what do you mean by preferences menu? [15:18] i found: Go to System >> Preferences >> Startup Applications [15:18] and you can put the saved layout to boot up [15:18] except don't have Preferences under system [15:19] it shouldn't be under system [15:20] where would it be then? [15:20] menu → settings/preferences → sessions and startup → autostart-tab [15:22] negative [15:24] maybe menu → settings → settings [15:24] Menu>Settings>Settings Manager>Sessions and Startup [15:24] yeah its under settings manager [15:24] why so many menus [15:24] heh [15:24] jesus [15:24] still completely logical [15:25] b26: Menus are what GNOME3/Unity is trying to get away from :) [15:26] yeah i don't like it either [15:26] installed 11.04, tried unity for 5mins and going back to gnome [15:26] Some of us are more comfortable with menus, which is why xfce is getting much more attention these days. [15:27] yeah, i like my menus [15:27] i don't like menus, i still use xfce [15:28] unity isn't that bad, but kde-netbook is similar and better [15:30] i just don't like the look and the drastic change unity is [15:30] Sysi: I am holding my judgement on GNOME3/Unity for the next release...it's not mature enough yet for a true evaluation, hence my using Xubuntu. [15:30] i feel like im using an ipad [15:31] b26: MarkS will be happy, I've read that that is exactly what they were going for. [15:32] Speaking of releases, why does xfce release in even numbers only (4.4, 4.6, 4.8, 4.10) ? [15:35] Is there a way to enable scrolling in vim? [15:37] I've been reading about a patch that enabled alt window scroll, but it looks like it was removed from the current version of xfce4-terminal due to a glitch in the preferences window [15:42] drc: even number versions are stable, others devel versions (i need to ask if they're changing it for 4.10) [15:43] b26: but isn't ipad nice to use? :P [15:44] Sysi: According to their roadmap they are, nect spring, with gtk3 [15:45] * drc is pretending he's on Win95...reboot :) [15:51] i like the ipad, and its design for the ipad [15:51] i don't like using my computer like an ipad [16:03] Here's a question: Assume I have Ubuntu 10.10 and Xubuntu 10.10 installed (not dual boot, just install the -desktop of the second distro), I boot into Xubuntu, and upgrade to 11.04. Does ubuntu get upgraded to 11.04? [16:03] of course [16:04] I so, was just wondering. [16:13] anyone have trouble launching Thunar from Docky? [16:25] thx === l4ng1t is now known as l4ng1t|sibuuuk === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [18:55] hi [18:56] sup [18:58] Possibly the best meteor shower of 2011 tonight! >> http://www.spacedex.com/eta-aquarids/ [18:58] Derr... sorry, wrong window. :-\ [19:20] The icons on the bottom launcher used to be centered and now they're not how do I get it back? [19:21] nevermind figured it out [19:21] Must have told the spacer now to auto expand [19:21] not* [19:23] hi is there any good wine howto, for newbie in the web? [19:24] !wine [19:24] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [19:25] vabigoon, you can try the Wine wiki too http://wiki.winehq.org/ [19:25] thank you :D I'll try to play Diablo 2 now >:D [19:37] Terminal command for checking system temps? [19:41] 'sensors' [19:41] might require installing and configuring lm-sensors [19:41] Thanks! [19:42] (install, run sensors-detectct, ansver yes to everything and reboot) [19:42] Is acpi helpful? [19:43] you might have something under /proc/acpi/ but you want lm-sensors [19:43] Roger. [20:03] anyone know how to move Docky from 1 monitor to the next? I tried clicking on it and dragging, but no luck [20:04] nothing is present in the settings about placement besides vertical or horizontal [20:07] <[micro]> gonna install it on the netbook, lets see how it works [20:08] b26: do you happen to have menu in docky? [20:12] b26: i'm wondering if it works with xfce, gnome-docks fail with menu [20:13] i have a question, you see, when i plug in a pendrive and copy paste files into it, they instantaneously appear as copied, whit no "Copying" window, then i dont know when the copying ended :( [20:15] they're copied too fast [20:15] you should get window if you copy larger files [20:17] but they're not copied, if i try to umount the pendrive it says "bussy" [20:21] sticks are slow, little buffering time [20:21] you don't have flashing light in yours? [20:25] its the docky from https://launchpad.net/docky [20:26] it worked fine yesterday, but since i hooked up my 2nd monitor when i got back into work before booting it ended up over there [20:27] if that's the case, is there a better dock app for use with xubuntu? [20:36] when I insert an usb stick with an iso9660 filesystem the drive gets opened infinitely often [20:36] I can only stop the process by pulling out the usb stick [20:36] and then I have to close 1000 windows [20:43] :/ [20:44] yeah i just wants a >Copying windows [20:54] gonna give avant a shot [21:05] Hello, could anybody spare some time to discuss installing Xubuntu on Virtualbox, in a Windows host. I've come across an issue after the installer finishes and Xubuntu tries to restart. The desktop disappears but hangs at what looks like a terminal screen with the following text. http://tinypaste.com/4d70b1 [21:06] Is that normal? Is it OK to hard reset the VM? [21:06] linux_novice_, i'd suggest that first yeah [21:07] you did a shutdown -h [21:07] instead of a shutdown -r now [21:07] I restarted from the desktop (XFCE), cause it said it needed to restart after installing. [21:08] I was wondering if doing a reset would harm the installation of if that was OK. [21:08] -h Requests that the system be either halted or powered off after [21:08] it has been brought down, with the choice as to which left up to [21:08] the system. [21:08] -H Requests that the system be halted after it has been brought [21:08] down. [21:09] that's taken from man shutdown [21:09] 'man shutdown' [21:09] which is the manual regarding the shutdwon command [21:12] I haven't made myself clear, I restarted from the GUI, cause there was a notification saying that the OS needed to restart to complete the installation. I didn't issue a text/terminal command. The XFCE desktop disappears but the VM doesn't restart, just gets stuck with the message I posted above. [21:13] does mousepad segfault for anyone else on natty? [21:15] b26, please use !pastebin for multiline pastes [21:18] hey everyone, I'm trying to force-install an i386 package on natty 64 bit, i try ignore-depends but I still get a list of dependency issues and "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured " === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === `mOOse` is now known as m00se