[02:59] <snadge> how do i move the unity bar thing from my secondary monitor to my primary one ?
[03:08] <snadge> xrandr --output HDMI1 --primary (apparently)
[03:08] <snadge> how intuitive ;)
[03:15] <spikeb> haha
[03:19] <RAOF> snadge: Yeah, the launcher's always on the primary display.
[03:19] <RAOF> That'd be perfectly intuitive if there was actually a GUI for setting the primary display :)
[03:19] <snadge> yeah its just there doesnt seem to be an easy way to set the primary display
[03:19] <snadge> lol yes
[03:19] <RAOF> (There is in gnome-control-centre 3.0)
[03:20] <Omega> jcastro: You here? (I know you're busy with organizing uds, this is about that)
[03:20] <snadge> im assuming gnome 3 didnt make it to 11.04
[03:20] <Omega> jcastro: I wanted to ask if you saw this: http://thomas.apestaart.org/log/?p=1329
[03:20] <RAOF> snadge: It indeed did not make it.  Too much crazy porting changes needed :).
[03:21] <snadge> with compiz 0.9 AND the unity changes combined.. thats more than enough fail i think for this release ;)
[03:22] <snadge> desktop interface appears to be smooth on my g34/g35 after booting into the livecd.. so im thinking it was perhaps a borked dist-upgrade from 10.10
[03:23] <snadge> im presuming there will be still window jerky issues if i load quanta or amsn though
[03:37]  * Nafai gets the crazy idea to use Emacs' dbus interface to talk to Unity to do dynamic quicklists
[03:38]  * RAOF was about to go “emacs has a dbus interface”.  Of *course* emacs has a dbus interface!
[03:38] <Nafai> :)
[03:39] <Nafai> http://emacs-fu.blogspot.com/2009/01/using-d-bus-example.html
[03:39] <Omega> emacs is a nice piece of software :)
[03:40] <Nafai> indeed it is
[03:43] <Omega> Maybe we should hold a session/meeting on evaluating GNOME Shell, and looking at the things they did right, and incorporate those things into Unity.
[04:02] <OverTheHillAndFa> where to find kick ass nice brushed metal materials?
[04:03] <Omega> OverTheHillAndFa: Wrong channel?
[04:03] <OverTheHillAndFa> he he
[04:03] <OverTheHillAndFa> yes
[04:03] <OverTheHillAndFa> sorry
[04:33] <snadge> i was just discussing with a friend.. how nice it would be to be able to optionally embed the gnome panel.. in between where the application menu goes, and the indicator applet
[04:33] <snadge> so you can add your cpu frequency scaling apps.. weather.. etc.. into unity
[04:34] <snadge> you can sort of do an equivalent thing.. but just running the gnome-panel, and deleting the top one.. but on high resolution desktop systems, it would be nice to be able to use some of that wasted space up the top
[05:07] <snadge> i think i'll just use gnome classic desktop in the meantime.. its cute for netbooks though
[06:18] <axisys> hwo do I get my terminal to do the wavy when move with mouse.. like in compiz ?
[06:20] <axisys> found it! if I try to enable wobbly windows .. it says it will disable snapping windows .. what is that mean?
[08:00] <oSoMoN> good morning
[09:27] <hicham> hi DBO
[10:31] <hicham> morning didrocks
[10:31] <didrocks> hey hicham!
[10:34] <hicham> didrocks: I didn't figure out yet how to start unity properly on a livecd for example. Should compiz be using gconf backend to be able to do that ?
[10:35] <didrocks> hicham: it should just use a profile where the unityshell plugin is activated by default
[10:36] <didrocks> which, in ubuntu, is a compiz profile stored in gconf for instance
[10:36] <hicham> didrocks: so compiz is set to use gconf by default in ubuntu ?
[10:38] <didrocks> hicham: yeah, it's the default backend for both sessions (default one, which is used in the gnome-classic session and the ubuntu one, which just adds unity)
[10:38] <didrocks> hicham: you should try a livecd, and look at the compiz default gconf settings
[10:39] <didrocks> hicham: and the COMPIZCONFIG_PROFILE value
[10:39] <didrocks> this is what define the default profile
[10:39] <didrocks> and what's in the profile, which backend is used
[10:40] <hicham> didrocks: from what I have seen, COMPIZCONFIG_PROFILE is set by Xsession, and unity startup scripts take it and loads the settings from gconf
[10:40] <didrocks> hicham: right, look at /etc/compizconfig/
[10:41] <didrocks> hicham: it's whete compiz is using COMPIZCONFIG_PROFILE to define that this profile is the gconf backend
[10:41] <didrocks> hicham: and then, look at the package, it has some gconf configuration for list of plugin enabled
[10:41] <hicham> didrocks: the issue for me is, we won't probably set compiz to use gconf by default, because it is used in other DEs as well
[10:42] <hicham> didrocks: in that case, I think I need to use an ini parser
[10:42] <didrocks> hicham: each profile define which backend is used
[10:42] <didrocks> as I just told above ;)
[10:42] <didrocks> hicham: did you look at what's in /etc/compizconfig/ ?
[10:42] <didrocks> /etc/compizconfig/config
[10:43] <didrocks> [general]
[10:43] <didrocks> backend = ini
[10:43] <didrocks> -> default profile (variable unset), use the ini backend
[10:43] <didrocks> [general_ubuntu]
[10:43] <didrocks> backend = gconf
[10:43] <didrocks> profile = unity
[10:43] <didrocks> -> ubuntu profile (from COMPIZCONFIG_PROFILE) use the gconf backend, using the unity profile in gconf
[10:44] <didrocks> I know, it's confusing, compiz has two "profiles" notions
[10:46] <kcin1> hi,how   can i disable unity-2d-spread
[10:50] <hicham> didrocks: what is the new workspace switcher ?
[10:50] <hicham> didrocks: I looked for it in compiz plugins, couldn't find it
[10:51] <didrocks> hicham: we are using the compiz "wall" plugin, nothing really fancy
[10:51] <didrocks> hicham: unity is depending on the "largedesktop" feature, which are provided by both cube (not really tested/integrated) and wall
[10:51] <hicham> didrocks: I am using wall+expo
[10:52] <didrocks> yeah, that's what we are using with unity
[10:54] <kcin1> is there a way to disable unity components
[11:13] <hicham> didrocks : no luck
[11:13] <hicham> didrocks: I added [general_unity] to /etc/compizconfig/config
[11:14] <hicham> put the Xsession file
[11:14] <hicham> but profile doesn't seem to get switched
[11:14] <hicham> I also used unity as default window manager in the session file
[11:25] <didrocks> hicham: does the Xsession file set "unity" in your session?
[11:28] <hicham> didrocks: http://fpaste.org/dw6C/
[11:28] <didrocks> hicham: and you have a unity.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/ right?
[11:30] <hicham> didrocks: http://fpaste.org/cPN0/
[11:31] <didrocks> hicham: ok, and I think the name is unity.desktop isn't it? the pastebin doesn't show that
[11:32] <didrocks> hicham: I need to go now (lunch time). but if it's the case, ensure that your gconf "unity" profile have unityshell by default as in the ubuntu package
[11:32] <didrocks> (compiz ubuntu package)
[12:07] <hicham> exit
[12:07] <hicham> exit
[12:07] <hicham> quit
[12:20] <jbicha> thoughts on bug 778289 ?
[14:44] <Pretto> hi, is there a way to reload only the launcher without restart a session?
[14:51] <axisys> is there a way to move the unity bar to the bottom instead of left by default?
[14:53] <elricl> Pretto, try unity
[14:53] <elricl> alt f2
[14:53] <elricl> unity
[14:53] <elricl> axisys, no.there is no preference to do that.
[14:54] <mathews> axisys: u got it hahahaha
[14:56] <Pretto> elricl: it worked, but not to launcher only :)
[14:57] <elricl> Pretto, well, atleast u didnt have to restart the session :D
[14:57] <Pretto> elricl: indeed :)
[14:57] <axisys> mathews: :-)
[14:58] <axisys> i have to move my mouse to the top left and slide to the left to get the bar.. or hold the superkey to access it.. is there a a way to not hide the menu ?
[15:01] <axisys> found my answer
[15:01] <axisys> http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[15:06] <Pretto> elricl: this workaround makes some indicators desappears :>
[15:07] <elricl> oops
[15:07] <elricl> what extra indicators do u have?
[15:07] <elricl> I have only ubuntu-one
[15:12] <Pretto> elricl: xchat, thunderbird, twitterdeck
[15:12] <Pretto> elricl: ah, dropbox too
[15:13] <elricl> which ones dissapear?
[15:13] <Pretto> elricl: xchat
[15:15] <elricl> um, how did u get the xchat notification icon, i cant seem to get it :o
[15:15] <elricl> Use xchat or xchat-gnome?
[15:43] <Pretto> elricl: xchat-indicator
[15:43] <elricl> it deosnt seem to work
[15:43] <Pretto> elricl: https://launchpad.net/xchat-indicator
[15:44] <Pretto> elricl: it works here
[15:44] <elricl> hmm.I'll checkout the problem l8r. Thanks.
[15:45] <Pretto> elricl: did you run com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"?
[15:46] <elricl> Ah. Your running it from the systray.
[15:46] <elricl> I wanted a actual indicator.
[15:47] <Pretto> elricl: http://laudecioliveira.org/blog/?p=303 you can see it here and in the message-menu too
[15:47] <elricl> Wrong link buddy :D.
[15:47] <elricl> Btw, Are u the owner of that blog?
[15:48] <Pretto> elricl: yes, the link is ok
[15:48] <elricl> Wait, the writer of the app?
[15:49] <Pretto> elricl: the xchat icon is in the screenshot, but the message-menu i can make a screenshot too
[15:49] <Pretto> elricl: yes
[15:49] <elricl> I branched it off launchpad, really like it.Anything I might do to help? :D
[15:49] <Pretto> elricl: that is why I asked about the reload stuff :)
[15:49] <elricl> makes sense. :D
[15:50] <elricl> Am just learning gtk. If you need any kinda work in the app,lemme know. I think it'll be a great learning exp for me
[15:53] <Pretto> elricl: I do have
[15:53] <Pretto> :)
[15:54] <Pretto> elricl: i need to beautify the dialogs for inputbox and messages
[15:54] <elricl> Yes.Sir.
[15:54] <Pretto> elricl: and I am very very bad to write dialogs messages
[15:56] <Pretto> elricl: I write code, ursinha organize it and package
[15:56] <Pretto> now you can review messages
[15:56] <elricl> sure
[15:56] <Pretto> and UI
[15:56] <Pretto> :)
[15:57] <elricl> be warned, am just a newbie
[15:57] <Pretto> elricl: all of us are newbie at some point :)
[15:58] <quido18> hi everybody.. just got the unity UI.. i miss the cpu meter in system tray.. in gnome i just could right click on the panel and add widgets. how to do that in unity?
[15:58] <elricl> :D
[15:59] <elricl> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/indicator-sysmonitor-simple-system-stats-app-for-ubuntu/
[15:59] <elricl> quido18,
[15:59] <quido18> gr8! gonna check it out, many thaks, elricl
[16:00] <Pretto> elricl: type the nickname of whon you are talking to :)
[16:00] <elricl> np
[16:01] <Pretto> hehehe
[16:01] <elricl> lol.
[16:12] <mathews> wamicho: u try ur query here #ayatana
[18:23] <Pretto> is there a way to reload only the launcher without restart a session?
[19:11] <jamalta> Pretto: you can open a Terminal, and run unity --replace
[19:14] <Pretto> jamalta: i will try
[19:19] <jamalta> Pretto: I would actually run unity --replace &
[19:19] <jamalta> The & will make it background so unity doesn't close when you close the terminal.
[20:00] <ssherez> allow the unity bar to be places on the bottom of the screen, allow the user to change the size of the icons and make it more like the mac dock
[20:01] <Pretto> that's  an order
[20:02] <Pretto> :O
[20:12] <christip> ssherez: The size of the icons can be changed in the compizconfig settings manager. (ubuntu unity plugin -> experimental -> launcher icon size)
[20:13] <christip> oh, he already left the channel...
[20:54] <ia> hello. I have a question about python bindings to indicator applet for 3rd party developers - is there any way (API?) to add in indicator (right in main menu, between gtk.MenuItem's) custom vertical scrollbar? just like in indicator-sound for sound volume - it's written in C/Vala, and looks like that for this devs using some low-level C/GTK tricks :-(