[11:11] <webczat> Heuyy.
[11:12] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha ka po'e alau
[11:22] <webczat> It was hey :d
[11:23] <MrChrisDruif> webczat: Aloha
[11:40]  * webczat is from poland :d
[11:44] <MrChrisDruif> webczat: I'm from Holland O:-)
[11:44] <webczat> :)
[11:45] <MrChrisDruif> But I'm trying to learn Hawaiian for when I move there (if ever)
[11:46] <webczat> :d
[14:24] <webczat> I tested the java-atk-wrapper
[14:57] <webczat> Results are negative for java.awt, positive for javax.swing
[15:03] <webczat> except some things about textbox navigation
[18:09] <hajour> hi all :)
[18:09] <hajour> i have test openmary out.
[18:10] <hajour> first results see link http://openetherpad.org/Wbr6YE3iHx
[18:10] <hajour> AlanBell, ^
[18:10] <webczat> hey hajour 
[18:10] <hajour> hi webczat :)
[18:11] <AlanBell> hajour: what is haspering in dutch?
[18:12] <hajour> stoteren
[18:12] <hajour> stotteren
[18:12] <hajour> sec
[18:12] <hajour> first was wrong fault
[18:12] <AlanBell> ok, that is stuttering in English
[18:13] <hajour> ok thank you AlanBell 
[18:13] <webczat> I don't know this english word. :o
[18:13] <AlanBell> stammering stuttering faltering perhaps
[18:13] <AlanBell> not speaking smoothly anyhow
[18:13] <webczat> lol! I don't know any
[18:14] <hajour> what is your language webczat ?
[18:14] <webczat> polish
[18:14] <AlanBell> hajour: I don't understand what software you are using
[18:14] <AlanBell> is this with orca?
[18:14] <webczat> probably not...?
[18:15] <hajour> jąkanie  <<< webczat 
[18:15] <hajour> openmary
[18:15] <AlanBell> openmary does not read web pages
[18:15] <hajour> what you had linkt me AlanBell 
[18:16] <webczat> mhm
[18:16] <AlanBell> ok, lets start from the beginning
[18:16] <AlanBell> you have followed the instructions to get speech dispatcher working with openmary?
[18:16] <AlanBell> so from a terminal try spd-say "hello world"
[18:17] <UndiFineD> AlanBell, I tried, but came to the same error with her
[18:17] <AlanBell> that should sound like espeak does
[18:17] <hajour> UndiFineD,  have done it
[18:17] <UndiFineD> to read the blueprint I installed browserspek
[18:17] <UndiFineD> browserspeak
[18:17] <UndiFineD> and the voices it uses are a bit choppy
[18:18] <hajour> orca was shut down my whole pc AlanBell 
[18:18] <AlanBell> yeah, that doesn't use speech dispatcher
[18:18] <webczat> lol, I just read "to read the blueprint i installed AlanBell "
[18:18] <AlanBell> heh
[18:18] <UndiFineD> orca still crashes and logs out the user btw
[18:18] <AlanBell> I have never had orca crash on me
[18:18] <hajour> and this laptop is bought in 2010
[18:19] <AlanBell> however that doesn't matter
[18:19] <webczat> Hmm, I've had orca crashes, but not logouts or (oh no!) pc shutdown.
[18:19] <hajour> its from my 16 year daughter this laptop
[18:19] <AlanBell> I want to know if you have speech dispatcher working
[18:19] <AlanBell> what happens when you go to a terminal and enter
[18:19] <AlanBell> spd-say "hello world"
[18:19] <UndiFineD> when you quit orca, it seems to shutdown the accessibility profile which logs out the user
[18:20] <UndiFineD> client: Speech Dispatcher failed to open: No such file or directory
[18:20] <hajour> AlanBell, ^
[18:20] <AlanBell> right, you have something broken still
[18:20] <webczat> Btw, AlanBell; I just tested java-atk-wrapper. Seems to be complete but having some major bugs. For example text fields are not fully accessible, but it works and it's possible to navigate it.
[18:21] <UndiFineD> indeed something
[18:21] <UndiFineD> but there is no way in telling what that is
[18:21] <webczat> But java awt apps aren't accessible.
[18:22] <hajour> have also good news.ubuntu forums have used the accessibility link .what had given much accessibility bugs.they now go try to improve it AlanBell 
[18:22] <AlanBell> UndiFineD: http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/
[18:22] <AlanBell> choose a voice
[18:22] <AlanBell> and does it make a sound?
[18:24] <UndiFineD> it works on hajour her computer, not on mine, my audio is still broken
[18:24] <hajour> tested
[18:24] <UndiFineD> she says the sound is a bit choppy here too
[18:26] <AlanBell> ok, now download the sound file
[18:26] <AlanBell> link at the bottom of the page
[18:26] <AlanBell> save it as voice.wav
[18:26] <AlanBell> in fact, better idea, one sec . . .
[18:27] <AlanBell> go to a terminal window again and paste this
[18:27] <AlanBell> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/mary.wav
[18:27] <AlanBell> play mary.wav
[18:27] <AlanBell> does that sound choppy?
[18:27] <hajour> with saving its the same results
[18:29] <AlanBell> what model laptop is it?
[18:29] <UndiFineD> recent hp
[18:29] <AlanBell> ok, there is no way that should not be able to play sound
[18:29] <AlanBell> so you can't play any music on it, use skype, do anything like that?
[18:29] <UndiFineD> mine is a desktop
[18:30] <hajour> same with terminal
[18:30] <AlanBell> so you have a desktop which is silent, and an HP laptop with choppy audio
[18:30]  * webczat is not happy, I can't use skype, it's qt ugh...
[18:31] <UndiFineD> no, sound hardware seems broken, just like some sata ports
[18:31] <AlanBell> you are not missing much webczat 
[18:31] <AlanBell> can you try a live CD?
[18:31] <UndiFineD> i did, no solution
[18:31] <webczat> AlanBell: I used skype before.
[18:31] <webczat> On windows.
[18:32] <webczat> Until I went to text mode mini-linux in like 2005.
[18:32] <AlanBell> hajour: you are bringing that laptop to UDS?
[18:32] <hajour> yes AlanBell 
[18:33] <AlanBell> ok, get someone to fix it there
[18:33] <webczat> I still have a serial hardware synthesizer.
[18:33] <AlanBell> you are not going to be able to do anything with speech programs without clean audio
[18:34] <AlanBell> UndiFineD: I might be able to fix the desktop remotely
[18:35] <hajour> ok AlanBell 
[18:35] <UndiFineD> hmmm
[18:35] <AlanBell> so the desktop has no audio at all, is that right?
[18:40] <hajour> he only hears noise
[18:40] <hajour> when he try to hear something
[18:41] <hajour> AlanBell, ^
[18:55]  * webczat is bored
[19:00] <MrChrisDruif> webczat: Wanna talk about something so you aren't bored anymore?
[19:09] <hajour> hee MrChrisDruif :)
[19:10] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha hajour :)
[19:10] <hajour> i was wondering.if i am at uds .i use a headset for to hear what is put on chat.how i can hear then the 1 who speaks on that moment ?
[19:11] <MrChrisDruif> Only put one headset piece on?
[19:12] <Daniel0108> hi hajour, MrChrisDruif 
[19:12] <Daniel0108> hajour: check your memos ;)
[19:14] <hajour> ok Daniel0108 :)
[19:16] <hajour> where is that for Daniel0108 ? :)
[19:16] <Daniel0108> PM please
[19:17] <UndiFineD> Daniel0108, I hope you are not sending out IRC memos
[19:17] <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: I am, why?
[19:17] <webczat> MrChrisDruif: I'm currently trying to understand parts of a java spec
[19:18] <UndiFineD> they are annoying
[19:18] <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: hmm.. I don't send many Memos, just when somebody is not answering my PMs ;)
[19:18] <Daniel0108> that's like my 2nd memo I think :P
[19:18] <Daniel0108> or my 3rd
[19:19] <UndiFineD> well, first try if the person youre sending is available
[19:19] <hajour> he not mean it rude Daniel0108 :)
[19:19] <Daniel0108> UndiFineD: I'm always trying to PM first ;)
[19:19] <Daniel0108> hajour: I know :)
[19:19] <hajour> but i oftenda need UndiFineD  to get it able to read the memo s 
[19:19] <hajour> Daniel0108, 
[19:21] <Daniel0108> okay
[21:52] <JanC> http://blogs.igalia.com/mario/2011/05/05/webkit-contributors-meeting-sockets-plugs/ --> interresting
[22:10]  * webczat sings