[00:01] <earthling_> I'm able to play video files from my RAM, is there a way to save it to hard drive?
[00:01] <earthling_> http://thevoidghost.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/flash-cache-on-ubuntu-linux/
[00:07] <earthling_> I get this error:   Streaming / Transcoding failed:
[00:07] <earthling_> It seems your FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder:
[00:07] <earthling_> MPEG AAC Audio.
[00:07] <earthling_> If you don't know how to fix this, ask for support from your distribution.
[00:08] <holstein> earthling_: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC
[00:08] <earthling_> ok
[00:09] <holstein> earthling_: i would ask the video creators for a copy of the video*
[00:09] <earthling_> I'm trying to master a technique to download videos from youtube and such
[00:09] <holstein> right
[00:09] <earthling_> :)
[00:10] <holstein> maybe you're not supposed to
[00:10] <holstein> as a digital content creator, i say, ask for a copy
[00:10] <earthling_> for non-copyright ones
[00:10] <earthling_> of course
[00:10] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[00:10] <holstein> cool :)
[00:10] <earthling_> :)
[00:10] <holstein> im sure you can do that
[00:10] <holstein> used to be plug-ins
[00:10] <earthling_> it used to be easy in FF3
[00:10] <earthling_> just look in cache
[00:10] <holstein> browser plug-ins
[00:11] <earthling_> can I trust the plug-ins?
[00:11] <earthling_> they are closed source, right?
[00:11] <holstein> does https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/unplug/ work?
[00:11] <holstein> earthling_: trust?
[00:12] <earthling_> to not be installing any extra stuff
[00:12] <holstein> up to you
[00:12] <holstein> would i  trust a browser plugin?
[00:12] <holstein> sure...
[00:12] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=547848
[00:12] <holstein> hey
[00:12] <holstein> http://code.google.com/p/vdown/ that looks handy
[00:13] <earthling_> I haven't tried that one
[00:13] <earthling_> checking it out
[00:15] <earthling_> thx
[00:34] <earthling_> ok, seems to work now
[00:34] <earthling_> all I needed to do was simple cp command
[00:36] <earthling_> :P
[00:37] <tranceNRG> Would someone running 64-bit 10.04 be good enough to tell me their current md5 or sha1 checksum for /usr/bin/apt-get
[00:37] <earthling_> 32 bit here
[00:37] <earthling_> Is 64 bit a lot better?
[00:38] <atari314> if you have 4gb of RAM and proper apps for 64... yup
[00:41] <earthling_> what about windows 7 running 64 bit with 4gb RAM vs ubuntu running 32 bit with 2gb RAM?
[00:41] <earthling_> if you had to choose
[00:43] <earthling_> maybe thats a bit offtopic, nevermind
[00:44] <tranceNRG> no worries, IRC tends to be a bit more asynchronous in conversation flow then you might be used to
[00:44] <tranceNRG> So responses come slowly
[00:45] <earthling_> I see
[00:45] <tranceNRG> kind of a cross between AIM and a message board lol.
[00:45] <tranceNRG> But anyway 64-bit can offer a performance advantage with some programs/circumstances.
[00:46] <tranceNRG> I run 64-bit on my main desktop but 32 on everything else.
[00:51] <earthling_> cool
[01:08] <Error404NotFoun1> im having problems with flash
[01:08] <Error404NotFoun1> anyone help?
[01:12] <Guest92022> i upgraded to 11.04 and wireless died
[01:12] <Guest92022> rtl8192e wireless controller
[01:12] <Guest92022> on samsung n130. anyone help?
[01:49] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: for me, flash is its own problem
[01:50] <holstein> its gotten a lot better
[01:50] <holstein> but just messing with differnt drivers
[01:50] <holstein> and browsers
[01:50] <holstein> tweaking here and there
[01:50] <Error404NotFoun1> was at website with a lot of flash and it was trippin out
[01:50] <holstein> thats about all you can do
[02:49] <pabstsmear> hi, I am having a problem with my wireless driver.  I have a bcm4312 LP-PHY and in additional drivers I have installed the Broadcom B43 wireless driver.  I can see my wireless network but it won't authenticate(yes it is the right password, I rechecked a few times now)
[02:49] <Error404NotFoun1> interesting
[02:50] <Error404NotFoun1> can u wire it?
[02:50] <pabstsmear> yes, I am connected via wire currently
[02:52] <pabstsmear> Also sometimes(not all the time), when I restart it tells me the driver is not active again and I have to re-install it.
[02:55] <Error404NotFoun1> i would say its not the right driver then
[02:55] <Error404NotFoun1> you update ubuntu?
[02:55] <Error404NotFoun1> might find diff drivers
[02:55] <pabstsmear> well, the wierd thing is the driver worked earlier today, actually it worked about a half hour ago.
[02:56] <Error404NotFoun1> laptop?
[02:56] <pabstsmear> Also the driver is correct for the BCM4312-LP-PHY, but there is another one for BCM4312-, I've tried that and it won't install correctly.
[02:56] <pabstsmear> yes
[02:57] <Error404NotFoun1> did you google it?
[02:57] <Error404NotFoun1> prolly be better help that i am
[02:58] <pabstsmear> yes, though I can't seem to find anything promising yet.  I will continue looking.
[02:59] <Error404NotFoun1> who makes the nic?
[02:59] <Error404NotFoun1> broadcom?
[03:00] <Error404NotFoun1> is it 802.11g?
[03:00] <pabstsmear> yes
[03:01] <pabstsmear> could it be an issues with using the PAE kernel.  It seemed to work fine on the regular kernel
[03:01] <Error404NotFoun1> no clue
[03:01] <pabstsmear> although it was working fine on here earlier.
[03:01] <Error404NotFoun1> does it say its a usb nic?
[03:02] <pabstsmear> well, its not a usb nic, but where would it say that? in lspci?
[03:02] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah
[03:02] <holstein> lsusb
[03:03] <Error404NotFoun1> use this
[03:03] <Error404NotFoun1> lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[03:03] <pabstsmear> not getting it in lsusb
[03:03] <Error404NotFoun1> paste that into terminal
[03:04] <pabstsmear> it does not say its usb
[03:04] <pabstsmear> should I paste the output
[03:05] <Error404NotFoun1> b34 driver should work
[03:05] <Error404NotFoun1> or wl
[03:05] <pabstsmear> do you mean b43
[03:06] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah
[03:06] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[03:06] <pabstsmear> I am using the b43
[03:06] <Error404NotFoun1> im lisdexic
[03:06] <pabstsmear> lol
[03:07] <pabstsmear> it was working earlier.  I did not delete the other kernel yet, I am going to try to boot into that and see if it is working, brb.
[03:09] <ogogog> heeyy, i need help to install a wifi card
[03:09] <holstein> ogogog: the driver?
[03:09] <ogogog> yeah
[03:09] <holstein> can you plug into internet?
[03:09] <holstein> for a second?
[03:09] <ogogog> yeah
[03:09] <ogogog> im connected with a lan cable
[03:10] <ogogog> my card is a bcm43xG
[03:10] <holstein> OK
[03:10] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[03:11] <ogogog> it's been two hours i'm trying to fix it ahha
[03:11] <pabstsmear> booting into the regular kernel didn't change anything
[03:12] <holstein> ogogog: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:12] <Error404NotFoun1> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter]
[03:12] <ogogog> gonna try that
[03:12] <Error404NotFoun1> no bracket at end
[03:13] <ogogog> unable to lacate package
[03:13] <ogogog> locate
[03:13] <Error404NotFoun1> did you delete the bracket lol
[03:13] <ogogog> yeah yeah i did :P
[03:14] <Error404NotFoun1> sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[03:14] <Error404NotFoun1> er
[03:14] <ogogog> already on the newest version
[03:14] <ogogog> i think i'll have to work with ndiswrapper or something
[03:15] <Error404NotFoun1> lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[03:15] <Error404NotFoun1> in terminal
[03:15] <Error404NotFoun1> should say broadcom corp some crap
[03:15] <ogogog> broad com BCM43xG
[03:16] <Error404NotFoun1> well here this site should help you get it working
[03:16] <Error404NotFoun1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:16] <ogogog> thanks
[03:16] <holstein> ogogog: sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <r4y> Hello
[03:17] <holstein> are you sure you're online?
[03:17] <ogogog> yeah
[03:17] <ogogog> wouldn't talking to you right?
[03:17] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[03:17] <holstein> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[03:18] <r4y> is there a mame channel for ubuntu users?
[03:18] <ogogog> ooooh
[03:18] <ogogog> sweet
[03:18] <ogogog> it just installed it!
[03:18] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[03:18] <ogogog> but what do i do then ahha
[03:18] <Error404NotFoun1> i was close
[03:18] <holstein> ogogog: thats from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:18] <ogogog> ahha yeah
[03:19] <Error404NotFoun1> ive had like 5 shots so..
[03:19] <Error404NotFoun1> and im tryin to install ubuntu on my other poc computer
[03:19] <Error404NotFoun1> and its not working
[03:19] <holstein> trying?
[03:19] <holstein> grab it by the horns Error404NotFoun1 :)
[03:20] <r4y> lol
[03:20] <Error404NotFoun1> hammer!
[03:20] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh i think it may be working
[03:20] <Error404NotFoun1> knowing my luck it wont
[03:20] <holstein> r4y: http://mamedev.org/ ?
[03:20] <r4y> Use the flag to distract that bull and take it by suprise
[03:21] <holstein> is that the MAME that you're talking about?
[03:21] <Error404NotFoun1> nope not working......
[03:21]  * Error404NotFoun1 smashes face off keyboard
[03:21] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: how's it run live?
[03:21] <Error404NotFoun1> it dont
[03:21] <Error404NotFoun1> it looked like it booted the cd
[03:21] <Error404NotFoun1> now i have a black screen
[03:21] <holstein> well, thats where you start
[03:21] <r4y> This is the guide I was using which had worked for Ubuntu 10.04 but now in 10.10 it doesn't seem to work:
[03:21] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505819
[03:21] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: you have a 10.04 live CD Error404NotFoun1 ?
[03:22] <holstein> if not, boot the live CD you have
[03:22] <holstein> hit shift
[03:22] <holstein> go into the f4 menu
[03:22] <holstein> and try 'nomodeset'
[03:22] <holstein> you want to see the live desktop
[03:22] <r4y> I should try my other hard drive first which has Ubuntu 10.10 installed on it, I'll be back
[03:22] <holstein> you'll have a much easier time then
[03:23]  * holstein hasnt heard of mame
[03:23] <Error404NotFoun1> now it on purple screen says ubuntu
[03:23] <Error404NotFoun1> doing nothing
[03:23] <holstein> right
[03:23] <holstein> you need to hit shift before that
[03:23] <holstein> if i were you
[03:23] <holstein> *when i do this
[03:23] <holstein> i unplug the hard drive
[03:23] <Error404NotFoun1> you would use a hammer?
[03:23] <holstein> so i can forcefully reboot
[03:24] <holstein> and not damage it
[03:24] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh install screen ftw
[03:24] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: look around in the F4 menu there
[03:25] <Error404NotFoun1> must just seem like its not doin anything cuz its a pos old computer
[03:25] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: its gracphics related
[03:25] <Error404NotFoun1> oh ffs
[03:25] <holstein> i have 10.10 installed on a p3
[03:25] <Error404NotFoun1> now its not seeing my hdd again
[03:25] <holstein> with 256 of ram
[03:25] <Error404NotFoun1> i dont have atleast 4.4gb drive space..
[03:25] <holstein> i wont be doing any video editing on it ;)
[03:26] <Error404NotFoun1> man i hate computers
[03:26] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: run it live
[03:26] <holstein> dont enter the installer
[03:26] <holstein> you want to see desktop*
[03:26] <Error404NotFoun1> having hdd issues
[03:26] <holstein> right
[03:26] <holstein> you should get to the desktop
[03:26] <holstein> and run gparted
[03:26] <Error404NotFoun1> it just booted windows
[03:26] <holstein> take a look around on the HD
[03:26] <holstein> it?
[03:26] <Error404NotFoun1> and hdd was in bios now its not there
[03:26] <holstein> its a machine ;)
[03:26] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: hey
[03:27] <holstein> i had a bad ide cable that was acting like that onces
[03:27] <holstein> once*
[03:27] <Error404NotFoun1> its gonna be a pile of rubble in a minute
[03:27] <Error404NotFoun1> i changed power and sata wires
[03:27] <Error404NotFoun1> still does it
[03:27] <holstein> so its probably not them then
[03:27] <holstein> i would say you can rule that out
[03:28] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah then its my 150 gb raptor...
[03:28] <holstein> which is good :)
[03:34] <ogogog> hey i downloaded the driver, but i cant find it in the additionnal drivers window
[03:34] <holstein> ogogog: you shouldnt need it
[03:34] <holstein> are you in unity?
[03:34] <ogogog> brb
[03:35] <ogogog> nope
[03:35] <holstein> i would just search 'additional'
[03:35] <holstein> its over in system
[03:35] <ogogog> im on the latest
[03:35] <ogogog> 11.04
[03:35] <holstein> right
[03:35] <holstein> thats unity
[03:35] <holstein> unless youre not
[03:35] <holstein> if you're in classic mode*
[03:35] <ogogog> isn't it something narwhal
[03:35] <ogogog> i think im in the classic
[03:36] <Error404NotFoun1> wth
[03:36] <holstein> ogogog: 2 panels?
[03:36] <Error404NotFoun1> live is seing a 2.7gb drive...
[03:36] <holstein> or a 'dock' down the side ogogog ?
[03:36] <ogogog> on the side
[03:36] <Error404NotFoun1> how can live cd see a 2.7gb drive
[03:36] <holstein> ogogog: thats unity
[03:36] <Error404NotFoun1> when there is no other drive than the 150gb raptor
[03:36] <holstein> unity is the UI
[03:37] <holstein> instead of the old gnome
[03:37] <ogogog> ok
[03:37] <holstein> the release name is natty
[03:37] <holstein> like you said
[03:37] <ogogog> ok that,s right
[03:38] <Error404NotFoun1> holstein:
[03:38] <ogogog> but yeah, the additional drivers only shows nvidia video card drviers
[03:38] <ogogog> not the one i just dwnld
[03:38] <holstein> ogogog: right
[03:38] <holstein> you shouldnt have to*
[03:38] <holstein> its been a bug
[03:39] <holstein> that doesnt show that driver
[03:39] <holstein> available
[03:39] <holstein> SO
[03:39] <holstein> you should need to go to additional drivers
[03:39] <holstein> you just install those packages
[03:39] <holstein> and it should just work
[03:39] <holstein> if not
[03:39] <holstein> i would reboot
[03:39] <Error404NotFoun1> i am very confuzled
[03:39] <holstein> just for good measuer
[03:39] <holstein> measure*
[03:39] <ogogog> i think i'll do that
[03:39] <ogogog> brb
[03:39] <holstein> then, read more of that page
[03:39] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:40] <holstein> make sure you got the hardware in question*
[03:40] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: ?
[03:40] <Error404NotFoun1> live cd says i have a hdd thats only like 3 gigs
[03:40] <Error404NotFoun1> sayd 2.7gb used 948.1mb free
[03:41] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: you need to look into the driver support for your sata controller next
[03:41] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: im assuming when you say 'live CD says'
[03:41] <holstein> you mean gparted?
[03:41] <Error404NotFoun1> im in ubuntu
[03:41] <Error404NotFoun1> running from cd
[03:41] <holstein> right
[03:41] <holstein> SO, what is reporting the size
[03:41] <holstein> ?
[03:41] <holstein> gparted?
[03:41] <Error404NotFoun1> went to computer and file system
[03:42] <holstein> thats what you should open
[03:42] <holstein> gparted
[03:42] <holstein> from the system menu
[03:42] <Error404NotFoun1> how
[03:42] <holstein> you go to gparted
[03:42] <holstein> in the menu
[03:42] <holstein> its clickNrun :)
[03:42] <Error404NotFoun1> lost
[03:43] <Error404NotFoun1> found it
[03:43] <Error404NotFoun1> gparted says no devices  detected
[03:44] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: thats not good
[03:44] <holstein> thats what you want to be reporting
[03:45] <holstein> thats what you trust
[03:45] <Error404NotFoun1> i hate computers!
[03:46] <Error404NotFoun1> i really dont get why bios said it was there, loaded windows
[03:46] <Error404NotFoun1> and when i try ubuntu its gone
[03:46] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: well, im telling you
[03:46] <holstein> it could be your sata controller drivers
[03:46] <holstein> if i were you, i would go get an old pata drive
[03:47] <Error404NotFoun1> dont have one
[03:47] <arnaudmessierm> wawawawawa
[03:47] <arnaudmessierm> ahha i'm so lost
[03:47] <Error404NotFoun1> g parted see my usb hdd
[03:48] <arnaudmessierm> i'm ogog
[03:48] <holstein> right
[03:48] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: you can get those at charity shops for a couple bucks
[03:48] <Error404NotFoun1> im poor
[03:48] <holstein> OR find them in the trash
[03:48] <holstein> if you're looking around
[03:48] <Error404NotFoun1> why do i need an old hdd
[03:50] <Error404NotFoun1> i think my puter is just messed
[03:50] <Error404NotFoun1> takes eons to post
[03:50] <pabstsmear> hello again, I am trying to install the broadcom sta driver but I get this Sorry, installation of this driver failed. and it directs me to a log file... /var/log/jockey.log
[03:50] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: you dont
[03:51] <Error404NotFoun1> now its not in bios again
[03:51] <holstein> but, that could be easier to deal with
[03:51] <pabstsmear> in the log I get 2011-05-05 22:48:13,111 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted
[03:51] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: i think its hardware failure
[03:51] <Error404NotFoun1> not my raptor!
[03:51] <Error404NotFoun1> i should pop in a new bios
[03:51] <pabstsmear> I actually have a second and its been giving me the same thing for both
[03:51]  * holstein gotta run..
[03:52] <Error404NotFoun1> crap
[05:38] <ray__> I was here a while ago and ask this
[05:38] <ray__> I have used this guide in Ubuntu 10.04 but with 10.10 it doesn't work
[05:38] <ray__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505819
[05:39] <ray__> http://imagebin.org/151971
[05:39] <holstein> ray__: is this mame?
[05:39] <holstein> ray__: cant get it installed?
[05:39] <ray__> It's sdlmame
[05:40] <holstein> or wont run?
[05:40] <holstein> ray__: lol
[05:40] <ray__> mame which used to be called sdlmame can't install on 10.10
[05:40] <holstein> oh, i thought you had a lame joke there ;)
[05:41] <holstein> ray__: is it not installing?
[05:41] <holstein> or is it your graphics card?
[05:41] <ray__> No
[05:41]  * holstein looks at pastebin
[05:41] <ray__> It doesn't install and my graphics card works great
[05:42] <ray__> I can run mupen64plus
[05:42] <holstein> this wont do?
[05:42] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~c.falco/+archive/umame
[05:43] <holstein> any of these really
[05:43] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~c.falco/+ppa-packages
[05:43] <ray__> I don't understand
[05:43] <holstein> gotta have sdl ?
[05:43] <holstein> ray__: did you try any of those PPAs?
[05:43] <ray__> xmame is outdated for sure
[05:43] <holstein> so, those PPA's wont work for you?
[05:44] <ray__> You mean the PPAs you linked to me?
[05:44] <ray__> If so then no
[05:44] <ray__> So 0.142 mame is unstable
[05:44] <ray__> ??
[05:44] <holstein> http://sdlmame.wallyweek.org/repository/
[05:45] <holstein> how about that one?
[05:45] <ray__> That was the one I was installing from
[05:45] <ray__> In the guide I first linked, he said to install mame common first, then mame and mame tools
[05:45] <ray__> From the link you last posted
[05:46] <holstein> i would probably just install mame
[05:46] <ray__> But that is the only one that will not install
[05:46] <ray__> You mean from the link sdlmame.wally?
[05:47] <holstein> ray__: did you try building it?
[05:47] <ray__> No, I have a guide I posted somewhere that does not work because of this
[05:47] <holstein> building?
[05:47] <ray__> Like I said it worked on Ubuntu Lucid Lynxs
[05:47] <holstein> you cant build because of this?
[05:48] <ray__> I didn't say that
[05:48] <holstein> OK
[05:48] <holstein> you could try contacting the PPA maintainer
[05:48] <ray__> I am not sure. I read a link somewhere about the name changing, but I bookmarked it on another hard drive
[05:48] <holstein> or maybe find another PPA
[05:48] <ray__> I think you are right
[05:48] <holstein> or just build it from the site
[05:49] <holstein> i mean, theres nothing really in 10.10 thats particularly breaking it
[05:49] <holstein> for any good reason*
[05:49] <holstein> ray__: try removing mame-common
[05:49] <holstein> and the other
[05:50] <holstein> and just install mame
[05:50] <ray__> OK, I will
[05:50] <ray__> I was thinking that when you said something but I didn't say so or that I hadn't tried it
[05:53] <ray__> Hold on, I need to take a screenshot here of what synaptic has listed
[05:53] <ray__> I did un-install though
[05:53] <holstein> right
[05:53] <holstein> remove whatever you installed
[05:53] <holstein> and run
[05:53] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[05:53] <holstein> sudo apt-get install mame
[05:53] <holstein> and see what the output is
[05:54] <ray__> http://imagebin.org/151972
[05:54] <holstein> ray__: right
[05:55] <ray__> OK, I update manager popped up right after I did sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <holstein> you can close it
[05:56] <ray__> Did you see the imagebin?
[05:57] <ray__> If I do sudo apt-get install mame then it might install 0.139 of mame and I have 0.142 which will not work
[05:57] <ray__> The question here is how to be able to remove sdlmame for 0.139 and install 0.142 in it's place
[05:59] <holstein> ray__: you need a PPA
[05:59] <holstein> that has that newer version
[05:59] <holstein> OR
[05:59] <holstein> you have to build it
[05:59] <ray__> Like you said, I should contact them
[05:59] <holstein> you can install it
[05:59] <holstein> and see
[05:59] <holstein> you can always uninstall it
[06:00] <ray__> Like I said I have a guide for Ubuntu users which I am not allowed to mention where but what the hay why not. It's at Pleasuredome
[06:00] <ray__> They like to stay up to date
[06:00] <holstein> ray__: you did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:c.falco/mame ?
[06:01] <holstein> ray__: i dont know what you are talking about
[06:01] <holstein> if you have a guide
[06:01] <holstein> follow it
[06:01] <holstein> if its broken
[06:01] <holstein> dont use it
[06:01] <ray__> No, I am unsure I want to but I am on my experiemental hard drive so why not
[06:01] <holstein> or ask for it to be fixed
[06:01] <holstein> if you want to install the packages
[06:01] <holstein> from that PPA
[06:01] <holstein> then, tell me if you ran sudo add-apt-repository ppa:c.falco/mame
[06:02] <holstein> and if not
[06:02] <holstein> run that
[06:02] <holstein> hey, run it anyways
[06:02] <ray__> OK, I will try it
[06:02] <holstein> open a terminal
[06:02] <holstein> run
[06:02] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:c.falco/mame
[06:02] <holstein> then
[06:02] <holstein> if no errors
[06:02] <holstein> run
[06:02] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[06:02] <holstein> then
[06:02] <holstein> if no erros
[06:02] <holstein> if no errors
[06:02] <holstein> run
[06:02] <holstein> sudo apt-get install mame
[06:02] <holstein> and dont run synaptic
[06:02] <holstein> in the middle
[06:03] <holstein> or the update manager
[06:03] <holstein> just keep going
[06:03] <holstein> til you open mame
[06:03] <holstein> and check the version
[06:04] <ray__> OK, doing exactly as you have said
[06:04] <ray__> 85%
[06:04] <holstein> cool
[06:04] <holstein> whatever version installs
[06:04] <holstein> *of mame
[06:04] <holstein> is the latest available
[06:04] <ray__> It said 0.142 in the terminal
[06:05] <holstein> ray__: there you go :)
[06:05] <holstein> thats the one you want right?
[06:05] <ray__> OK, since it is the emulator and not the front end I need to install a frontend like gmameui to test
[06:06] <holstein> well, i have no idea about that
[06:06] <holstein> but you should be able to run
[06:06] <holstein> mame -v
[06:06] <ray__> OK, I will try that as well
[06:07] <holstein> maybe not*
[06:07] <ray__> I need to set the path to the folder where the roms are somewhere
[06:08] <holstein> maybe mame -version
[06:08] <ray__> No, you are right
[06:08] <ray__> O, I see
[06:08] <ray__> I will try, if not them man mame
[06:08] <holstein> mame -help should say*
[06:08] <ray__> I will try both
[06:08] <holstein> anyways, now you can write your own guide :)
[06:10] <ray__> I should have said more, and your right. I made a guide to help Ubuntu users update their mame roms using PD and linked the guide that that one guy posted
[06:10] <ray__> I will have to add what worked as well as the link
[06:10] <ray__> I will likely contact the sdlmame.wally team
[06:11] <ray__> Why wally?
[06:11] <ray__> Well, anyways thank you
[06:11] <holstein> ray__: sure :)
[06:11] <holstein> enjoy
[06:12] <ray__> Success: http://paste.ubuntu.com/603985/
[06:12] <ray__> Thanks a million. I might have lost my mind for a while.
[06:13] <ray__> Not as much as if my hard drives all failed but still they need to know what's up, so I will tell them at: http://sdlmame.wallyweek.org
[06:14] <ray__> Take care, and keep rocking
[06:14] <holstein> GN
[06:21] <ray__> GN holstein
[06:24] <ray__> bye all
[07:03] <Error404NotFoun1> linux sucks!
[07:04] <mysteriousdarren> reason?
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> im bored
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> cuz its not windows
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> im kidding lol
[07:05] <Error404NotFoun1> sorry  i'm  a noob
[07:08] <priceless> Anyone know of software that would encrypt an entire USB thumb drive, but can be decrypted in a Ubuntu or Windows machine?
[07:09] <Error404NotFoun1> negative
[07:10] <SerialMDK> ditch winders man
[09:38] <Cheri703> I am in desperate need of help with pitivi or any other video editing software that will take rmd's ogv files.
[09:38] <Cheri703> I am trying to clean up and then join several ogv files created with recordmydesktop
[09:38] <Cheri703> and I have been at this for HOURS and have gotten NOWHERE
[09:39] <Cheri703> started making a tiny bit of progress and pitivi crashed -_-
[09:39] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_editing_software :)
[09:39] <bioterror> make your apt-get sing
[09:40] <Cheri703> have been already, will see if there's anything on there that I haven't tried yet
[13:42] <madlatvian> hi everyone
[13:47] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha madlatvian
[13:47] <madlatvian> wow thanks for the chat
[13:47] <madlatvian> what do you think of natty
[13:48] <eiriksvin> teehee testing TeamViewer and it works like a charm, almost no lag:)
[13:48] <MrChrisDruif> Honest opinion? Btw social chat should be kept in #ubuntu-beginners-team
[13:49] <eiriksvin> bbl
[13:49] <madlatvian> do you think anyone would notice ?
[13:54] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, even I would
[13:54] <madlatvian> k
[14:54] <BonesOfTheNight> Hey, I'm in 11.04 with Unity, but I don't have a Tomboy Notes indicator... what gives? Right clicking the top panel does nothing. How do you customize Unity?
[14:55] <holstein> BonesOfTheNight: i think there will be more customization options for unity soon
[14:55] <holstein> i have heard theres a way to use the old indicators
[14:56] <holstein> but maybe i misunderstood
[14:56] <holstein> lemme see if i can find some information about it
[14:56] <BonesOfTheNight> Alright. Thanks.
[14:57] <BonesOfTheNight> I've been using Ubuntu Classic mode, but I decided the best way to know Unity was to actually *use* it, so... :D
[14:58] <holstein> heres a couple relevant bugs you might want to browse and/or join
[14:58] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/620427
[14:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 620427 in unity "tomboy applet prevents the indicator to be shown" [High,Fix released]
[14:58] <holstein> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27536/
[15:00] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/666678
[15:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 666678 in unity "Support a container for gnome panel applets" [Undecided,Won't fix]
[15:02] <holstein> BonesOfTheNight: yeah, i think i misunderstood what i heard
[15:02] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10597/can-i-use-gnome-applets-in-unity
[15:02] <holstein> ^ says you cant
[15:02] <holstein> and i dont see anything saying you can use gnome applets in unity
[15:02] <holstein> *the old gnome aplets
[15:02] <holstein> applets
[15:02] <holstein> anyways, like the post says, you cant use them in gnome3 either
[15:03] <holstein> so, you gotta work something out
[15:03] <holstein> as unity matures
[15:03] <holstein> all of that will be worked out
[15:03] <BonesOfTheNight> Apparently, running the command to start Tomboy, makes the indicator appear.
[15:03] <BonesOfTheNight> I don't know if it will show up next time I start the system up, but at least that's better than not having it at all.
[15:03] <BonesOfTheNight> Thanks. :)
[15:05] <BonesOfTheNight> Never saw Gnome3. I'm starting to feel cornered. Gnome2.30 was the pinnacle of quality. Gnome3 seems to depart from the style used in 2.30.
[15:07] <holstein> its just a different UI direction
[15:08] <holstein> the move to something must happen
[15:08] <holstein> its not so much that ubuntu said 'lets change everything'
[15:08] <holstein> gnome is changing
[15:09] <holstein> and gnome2 so far, is not forked
[15:09] <holstein> and unity is the answer for ubuntu
[15:09] <holstein> change is hard :/
[15:10] <madlatvian> i've been using it for a week it sucks
[15:10] <BonesOfTheNight> Sure, everything is progress. I just don't want good features to go away because the move prioritises new features.
[15:10] <holstein> its a pretty high priority though
[15:11] <holstein> and 'good' and 'sucks'
[15:11] <holstein> those are opinions
[15:11] <BonesOfTheNight> I'm kind of annoyed by the lack of a virtual desktop switcher (yeah, there's one, but it works in 2 steps instead of 1), but I'm also finding useful the side panel for that.
[15:11] <holstein> i mean, im not using unity
[15:11] <holstein> BUT, im not using 11.04
[15:12] <holstein> i have test installations
[15:12] <holstein> but, i will use 10.04 til the next LTS on most everything
[15:12] <holstein> i think ubuntu is trying to get the unity launch out of the way
[15:13] <holstein> so they can prepare for the wayland switch
[15:13] <madlatvian> but I like the terminal look
[15:13] <BonesOfTheNight> So, we're not in Wayland right now?
[15:13] <holstein> that move is not going to be trivial either
[15:13] <holstein> BonesOfTheNight: not yet
[15:14] <BonesOfTheNight> Oh, I thought THAT was the reason my Wacom tablet stopped working on updating... I guess the xorg files are just messed up.
[15:15] <BonesOfTheNight> This 'Wayland' thing worries me. How well researched is it? They are changing the X server, right? Isn't that like doing a heart transplant or something? Y'know, changing something major.
[15:15] <holstein> well, again
[15:15] <holstein> its changing
[15:15] <holstein> i think its actually a good move for buntu to try and get it in before the next LTS
[15:16] <holstein> and to go ahead as soon as they can
[15:16] <holstein> i mean, ubuntu could fork both gnome2 and x
[15:17] <holstein> but, evetually, others will move to wayland
[15:17] <holstein> cannonical didnt meet and decide to ditch gnome2 and xorg
[15:18] <holstein> these decisions are in repsonse to big external changes
[15:18] <BonesOfTheNight> I know they didn't like Gnome3; but what happened they decided to get rid of Xorg?
[15:18] <holstein> its going away too
[15:18] <holstein> and, its arguably a needed changes
[15:19] <holstein> and, its arguably a needed change*
[15:19] <holstein> since x is so old
[15:19] <holstein> i mean, lets imagine that 11.04 had gnome3
[15:20] <holstein> we would still be talking about how to customize it further
[15:20] <holstein> and how the applets dont work
[15:20] <holstein> and why ubuntu changed
[15:20] <holstein> again, im not defending unity
[15:20] <holstein> im just saying, change is eminent
[15:21] <holstein> unless you want to fork and maintain gnome2 and xorg in house
[15:21] <holstein> those technologies are going to either stagnate, or fade away
[15:23] <BonesOfTheNight> Well, I'm having a hard time picturing some distros making the switch. I mean, has Debian decided to go this way? o_O
[15:24] <holstein> debian will go wayland
[15:24] <holstein> at some point
[15:24] <holstein> and they will have gnome2 as long as its maintained
[15:24] <holstein> debian doesnt really have a UI like that though
[15:25] <holstein> like ubuntu-desktop
[15:25] <BonesOfTheNight> What do you mean?
[15:25] <holstein> when you download the ubuntu live CD
[15:25] <holstein> and have gnome, or unity
[15:25] <holstein> as the ubuntu-desktop metapackage*
[15:26] <holstein> debian doest really do that
[15:26] <holstein> you just get debian
[15:26] <holstein> and choose what DE you want
[15:32] <BonesOfTheNight> I see.
[19:26] <ubuntu_> Looking for some help installing Ubuntu10.10 getting stuck at "setting sensors limits"
[19:26] <Error404NotFoun1> 11.04 ftw
[19:30] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Is it? :)
[19:31] <MrChrisDruif> ubuntu_: Setting sensors limits? I never heard of that
[19:31] <Error404NotFoun1> nor have i
[19:32] <ubuntu_> well, it was "something" sensors limits during install.
[19:33] <holstein> ubuntu_: if you can reproduce it
[19:33] <holstein> and get the exact text
[19:33] <holstein> we can look it up :)
[19:33] <ubuntu_> using the live cd to install
[19:34] <holstein> ubuntu_: use the live CD to get to the desktop first
[19:34] <holstein> then install from there*
[19:35] <ubuntu_> and yes the MD5 is good, the disk check was good and am using the live CD now on another machine to do this.
[19:35] <holstein> this?
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> Installing I think holstein
[19:35] <ubuntu_> the live CD will not boot on that machine - stops at the same place when loading.
[19:35] <Error404NotFoun1> is there any real reasons not to use natty?
[19:36] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: ui change?
[19:36] <ubuntu_> when I first got Ubuntu, 10.10 was the latest
[19:36] <Error404NotFoun1> you can use classic
[19:36] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: other than preferecne, not really
[19:36] <Error404NotFoun1> it looks no different than 10.10
[19:37] <Error404NotFoun1> is there another windows emulator like wine?
[19:37] <holstein> im not using it because its not an LTS
[19:37] <ubuntu_> Mr chris, to do this chat
[19:37] <Error404NotFoun1> i cant get wine to work
[19:38] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: wine is going to be the best and most supported option
[19:38] <Error404NotFoun1> dont work for me
[19:38] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: would you like to trouble shoot it sometime?
[19:38] <Error404NotFoun1> im working on it now
[19:38] <holstein> it?
[19:39] <Error404NotFoun1> wine lol
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> Alright UndiFineD
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> ubuntu_: *
[19:39] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: wine and?
[19:39] <UndiFineD> ?
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry for the ping UndiFineD
[19:39] <UndiFineD> oh hehe
[19:39] <holstein> UndiFineD: tab error :/
[19:39] <Error404NotFoun1> holstein: im trying to get it to see my dvd rom
[19:39] <Error404NotFoun1> to install
[19:39] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed
[19:39] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: just drag the .exe over
[19:40] <Error404NotFoun1> over to what
[19:40] <holstein> where ever
[19:40] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Cedega en PlayOnLinux are two afaik
[19:40] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: drag the dvd contents over to the desktop
[19:41] <Error404NotFoun1> dont that mean it wont play from the disk?
[19:41] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: ?
[19:41] <holstein> i dont know
[19:41] <holstein> that depends on what it is
[19:41] <Error404NotFoun1> if it dont play from disk im not gonna do it
[19:41] <holstein> but, yeah
[19:41] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: ?
[19:41] <Error404NotFoun1> i have like 4 games to instal which are over 5 gigs
[19:41] <holstein> they'll need to install somewhere
[19:42] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: open the DVD structure
[19:42] <holstein> and find the .exe
[19:42] <holstein> open a terminal and type
[19:42] <holstein> wine
[19:42] <holstein> then space
[19:42] <holstein> and then drag the .exe over into the terimal
[19:42] <holstein> terminal*
[19:42] <holstein> and it should complete the path
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah
[19:43]  * holstein is assuming you've already checked wineHQ
[19:43] <Error404NotFoun1> you assume wrong ;lol
[19:43] <holstein> thats where you look
[19:44] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Try #winehq, the experts on Wine
[19:44] <Error404NotFoun1> look for what
[19:44] <Error404NotFoun1> compatibility?
[19:44] <MrChrisDruif> Yup
[19:45] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: you'll be looking specifically for the page that says if the work you are about to do is worth doing
[19:45] <Error404NotFoun1> one of my games is on here on silver list
[19:45] <holstein> promising
[19:46] <Error404NotFoun1> it only shows 30 programs...
[19:46] <holstein> it?
[19:46] <Error404NotFoun1> appdb
[19:46] <holstein> google?
[19:46] <holstein> i usually just google too
[19:46] <holstein> wineHQ whatever
[19:48] <Error404NotFoun1> ok other game says gold rating for wine
[19:48]  * holstein gives thumbs up to Error404NotFoun1 while running out for lunch
[19:48] <holstein> BBL...
[19:48] <ubuntu_> Installing Ubuntu 10.10 freezes at "setting sensors limits"  Any help?
[19:49] <Error404NotFoun1> ive installed 10.10 a few times and never seen sensor limits...
[19:49] <holstein> ubuntu_: how about getting to the desktop?
[19:49] <holstein> LIVE
[19:49] <holstein> without installing?
[19:49] <holstein> can you do that?
[19:49] <holstein> *try that now
[19:49] <ubuntu_> no desktop it freezes there
[19:50] <ubuntu_> live does the same
[19:50] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1675685
[19:51] <holstein> ubuntu_: when the live CD is booting
[19:51] <holstein> try hitting shift
[19:51] <holstein> you should see more options
[19:51] <holstein> including where you and hit F4
[19:51] <holstein> and i forget what all is in there
[19:51] <ubuntu_> i hit shift nothing at all happens
[19:52] <holstein> but, browse that for something about sensors
[19:52] <holstein> ubuntu_: you have to hit it at the right time
[19:52] <holstein> might take a couple tries
[19:53] <holstein> ubuntu_: for these diagnostic processes
[19:53] <holstein> i usually unplug the HD
[19:53] <holstein> so i can forcefully reboot
[19:53] <holstein> and not break anything
[19:54] <ubuntu_> www.computing.net/answers/linux/ubunt...
[19:54] <Error404NotFoun1> were you not leaveing? lol
[19:54] <Error404NotFoun1> erm
[19:55] <holstein> yeah... i got distracted :)
[19:55] <ubuntu_> http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/ubuntu-installer-freezes/30741.html
[19:55] <ubuntu_> try that one
[19:56] <ubuntu_> ther is no help there though
[19:56] <holstein> ubuntu_: right
[19:56] <holstein> you want to get to that screen
[19:56] <holstein> and find the F4 menu
[19:56] <holstein> the old style one
[19:56] <ubuntu_> and then what?
[19:56] <holstein> ubuntu_: hit F4
[19:56] <holstein> and look at the options
[19:57] <holstein> one is 'nomodeset'
[19:57] <holstein> i am not in front of it right now
[19:57] <holstein> so i cant say
[19:57] <ubuntu_> that was not an option
[19:57] <holstein> ubuntu_: right
[19:57] <holstein> it is
[19:57] <holstein> you need to push shift at the proper time
[19:57] <holstein> ubuntu_: do you see an F4 menu?
[19:57] <holstein> along the bottom?
[19:57] <holstein> maybe its F6*
[19:58] <holstein> its black
[19:58] <holstein> with a logo
[19:58] <holstein> and text
[19:58] <holstein> options like 'install ubuntu'
[19:58] <ubuntu_> yes, the f4 is along the bottom
[19:58] <holstein> OK
[19:58] <holstein> F4 is 'advanced options' ?
[19:58] <holstein> something like that?
[19:58] <holstein> ubuntu_: i need to run, but
[19:59] <holstein> what you'll want to do
[19:59] <ubuntu_> 3 options were there - safe was not there
[19:59] <holstein> is pass an option
[19:59] <ubuntu_> f6 was advanced options
[19:59] <holstein> to not do that sensor check
[19:59] <holstein> then, the system will be able to get past that stage
[19:59] <ubuntu_> pass was not an option
[19:59] <holstein> RIGHT
[19:59] <holstein> it doesnt say 'pass'
[20:00] <holstein> you just select the options
[20:00] <holstein> and they will be 'passed'
[20:00] <holstein> whil the kernel boots
[20:00] <holstein> like 'nomodeset'
[20:00] <holstein> anyways... gotta run..
[20:02] <ubuntu_> tried nomodeset, xforcevesa, acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, acip=off, fb=false, i915.modeset=1 all would get stuck at setting sensors limits and stop
[20:03] <ubuntu_> been at this since 6AM
[20:03] <Error404NotFoun1> ubuntu why not attempt 11.04?
[20:03] <ubuntu_> would an earlier version be better?
[20:04] <Error404NotFoun1> im using natty works fine for me
[20:04] <Error404NotFoun1> not a whole lot of difference
[20:05] <ubuntu_> PC is older Dell P4, 512MB RDRAM on a clean 10GB HDD
[20:05] <Error404NotFoun1> paybe thats your problem
[20:05] <Error404NotFoun1> maybe*
[20:05] <ubuntu_> yeah - DELL
[20:05] <Error404NotFoun1> dude you got a dell...
[20:06] <ubuntu_> woohoo
[20:06] <ubuntu_> i did use gparted on the HD to set ext4
[20:07] <Error404NotFoun1> and swap?
[20:07] <ubuntu_> no
[20:07] <Error404NotFoun1> need swap...
[20:07] <ubuntu_> figured the install would let me do that
[20:07] <MrChrisDruif> Error404NotFoun1: Swap is not mandatory
[20:07] <ubuntu_> but install freezes
[20:07] <Error404NotFoun1> when i didnt do a swap it didnt install for me
[20:08] <ubuntu_> maybe i should delete the partition and leave it unallocated?
[20:09] <MrChrisDruif> Afaik swap is recommended but not mandatory
[20:10] <Error404NotFoun1> make a tiny swap and try it once
[20:10] <ubuntu_> is there a boot param to skip the sensor setting check?
[20:12] <ubuntu_> it was setting sensors limits - read something about having to do with the processor
[20:12] <ubuntu_> and no my p4 does not have hyperthreading
[20:13] <Error404NotFoun1> im not much help here im new to linux
[20:14] <ubuntu_> you're older than me!
[20:14] <Error404NotFoun1> if i was u id make a tiny swap
[20:14] <Error404NotFoun1> reset bios and try again
[20:14] <Error404NotFoun1> how do you know im older
[20:15] <ubuntu_> to linux - this is my cherry
[20:15] <Error404NotFoun1> ive been using for a few days now..
[20:15] <ubuntu_> see u r older than me
[20:16] <Error404NotFoun1> your copy of 10.10 is i386 yes?
[20:16] <ubuntu_> most i ever did was use knoppix to recover some data
[20:16] <ubuntu_> yes i386
[20:16] <Error404NotFoun1> you md5'd the iso and the disk?
[20:16] <Omsniffiscent> hey, guys. I'm being randomly logged out when I close Google Chrome. I found a post on google help with people having a similar issue and they claim it's a problem with gnome. I can't find any other threads that talk about this issue.
[20:16] <ubuntu_> got from the ubuntu website
[20:17] <Error404NotFoun1> Omsniffiscent:  try not using chrome lol
[20:17] <Omsniffiscent> Chromium also does the same thing.
[20:17] <ubuntu_> yes md5 and disk check both OK
[20:17] <Error404NotFoun1> i tried chrome and it was garbage
[20:18] <ubuntu_> am using the live cd now for this chat on different machine
[20:18] <Omsniffiscent> As I said, this post claims it's nothing to do with chrome/chromium/firefox/also. They claim it's Gnome.
[20:18] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[20:18] <Omsniffiscent>  /alsa*
[20:18] <Error404NotFoun1> anything to put the blame off google
[20:18] <Omsniffiscent> But this isn't just happening with chrome/chromium.
[20:19] <Omsniffiscent> Some people are saying they get logged out when they mess with sound settings.
[20:20] <Omsniffiscent> Is anyone else having this issue?
[20:21] <Error404NotFoun1> try #ubuntu
[20:22] <Omsniffiscent> Already been there.
[20:22] <Error404NotFoun1> i cant help ya sorry
[20:22] <Error404NotFoun1> im still ubuntu noob
[20:22] <Omsniffiscent> I kinda guessed that from the first words you put down. ;)
[20:23] <Omsniffiscent> And we're all newbs.
[20:23] <Error404NotFoun1> well i just dont see any reason not to use firefox
[20:23] <Error404NotFoun1> thats why i said dont use chrome
[20:23] <Omsniffiscent> It's called preference. Welcome to Linux.
[20:23] <Omsniffiscent> Freedom to do what you want.
[20:24] <Error404NotFoun1> if i had my choice id be using ie
[20:24] <Omsniffiscent> You can't use IE in wine?
[20:24] <Error404NotFoun1> doubt it
[20:24] <Omsniffiscent> So you haven't tried.
[20:24] <Omsniffiscent> Troll.
[20:25] <Error404NotFoun1> im tryin to install games with wine right now.. having big problems
[20:55] <howard> hello
[20:55] <duanedesign> 'lo
[20:56] <howard> does anyone know a sophisticated bash-shell ?
[20:58] <Error404NotFoun1> erm wine isnt for 64 bit programs?
[21:00] <duanedesign> i think so...
[21:02] <duanedesign> Error404NotFoun1: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wine#Running_Windows_Applications
[21:07] <Error404NotFoun1> duanedesign:  it says to use wine64 (path) to install 64 bit and it says wine64 command not found
[21:09] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh nice
[21:09] <Error404NotFoun1> installed ie8
[21:15] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[21:15] <KM0201> lol
[21:15] <Error404NotFoun1> um im having a problem here
[21:16] <KM0201> so ask
[21:16] <Error404NotFoun1> im in this channel... but im in it twice
[21:16] <Error404NotFoun1> but the other window its just me in the channel
[21:16] <Error404NotFoun1> i think i broke irc
[21:16] <KM0201> most likely the other channel, you typed the name wrong or something
[21:17] <Error404NotFoun1> it is identical
[21:17] <Error404NotFoun1> checked a million times
[21:17] <KM0201> Error404NotFoun1: no its not
[21:17] <KM0201> its not.
[21:17] <KM0201> you did something different
[21:17] <Error404NotFoun1> nope
[21:17]  * KM0201 sighs...
[21:18] <KM0201> Error404NotFoun1: its nt possible.. unless you're ere on two different clients, and two different names
[21:18] <KM0201> you can tell me "nope" all you want, but i know better
[21:18] <Error404NotFoun1> same name same server
[21:18] <KM0201> hold on
[21:18] <KM0201> Error404NotFoun1: i just whois'd you, and you're only here...
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> do i need to take a screen shot?
[21:19] <KM0201> not really sure wha tkind of game you're playing. or if you jus twant attention, or what
[21:19] <Error404NotFoun1> same nick same server same channel
[21:20] <KM0201> well then how come when i whois you, it only show syou here... is the other channel scrolling our current chat?
[21:20] <Error404NotFoun1> holstein:
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> no im the only person in it
[21:21] <KM0201> Error404NotFoun1: then i stand by my earlier assessment, you typed it wrong, or done something else.
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> nope
[21:21] <KM0201> if it bothers you that badly, just close it
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> like i said same nick same server same channel
[21:21] <KM0201> Error404NotFoun1: it can't be, when i whois you, it only lists you here
[21:21] <Error404NotFoun1> i just want to know how the hell it happened
[21:22] <KM0201> go tot he main "freenode" window.. and type  "/whois KM0201"  no quotes and hit enter
[21:22] <KM0201> it will show all the channels i'm currently in
[21:22] <Error404NotFoun1> i know how to use irc
[21:23] <Error404NotFoun1> and im telling you its identical
[21:23] <KM0201> ok... whatever
[21:23] <KM0201> they're not identical, or our current chat would be scrolling int hat window to.
[21:24] <Error404NotFoun1> you would think
[21:24] <KM0201> you done something different when you joined that channel, whether you want to admit it or not
[21:24]  * KM0201 would know
[21:25] <Error404NotFoun1> well i know ..
[21:25] <KM0201> now i'm thinking you're a troll
[21:25] <Error404NotFoun1> it even changed my nick cuz its already in use
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> im thinking you are just a bit dense
[21:26] <KM0201> whats the other nick it gave you?
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> why would i make it up
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> this nick
[21:26] <KM0201> no, you said you're here in the same name.. you're obviouskly not
[21:26] <KM0201> nom, you just said it changed your nick...
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> yeah from Error404NotFound
[21:26] <Error404NotFoun1> to what im on now
[21:27] <KM0201> well, by all means, post a screenshot(although i admit i'll dobut its authenticity)
[21:27] <Error404NotFoun1> ok ill change name in that room
[21:27] <Error404NotFoun1> it will change here
[21:27] <KM0201> its not gonna change anything.
[21:27] <KM0201> if i whois yo on your current name, it only show syou here
[21:28] <sameserver> see
[21:28] <KM0201> by all means, screen sho tit.
[21:30] <KM0201> sameserver: i could understand if you said youw ere here twice, and you were like, sameserver and sameserver_  but the fact the other window is not scrolling our current chat, it is obviously not here.
[21:30] <sameserver> http://img705.imageshack.us/i/screenshotvbr.png/
[21:31] <KM0201> youc an't even read it, its to small
[21:32] <sameserver> wth why cant you click it to be full size
[21:32] <KM0201> because you still can't read it when you click it
[21:33] <sameserver> http://img638.imageshack.us/i/screenshotkg.png/
[21:33] <sameserver> erm
[21:33] <sameserver> i hate image shack
[21:33] <KM0201> dunno man, you done something ignorant, bu its not here, and its not a channel, because when you whois it... only this channel comes up
[21:33] <KM0201> try using an Irc client that doesn't suck
[21:34] <sameserver> save image and you can see it
[21:34] <KM0201> it's fine.
[21:34] <KM0201> you done something, i'm jus tnot gonna waste my brain thinking about it any longer
[21:34] <KM0201> if it bothers you that bad, close it
[21:35] <sameserver> you seem to be missing the point...
[21:35] <sameserver> i want to know why its doing this
[21:35] <KM0201> because you ripped a hole in the space time continuum
[21:35] <sameserver> i guess
[21:36] <KM0201> unless its a title window, which i don't think it is (I don't use pidgin for IRC)... its obviously not a window that is in this channel
[21:37] <SerialMDK> moron
[21:50] <geirha> SerialMDK: does that happen every time?
[21:51] <SerialMDK> when i start pidgin it joins the room with no one in it
[21:51] <SerialMDK> i have to manualy join again and get this room
[21:54] <geirha> Hm. Must be a bug with pidgin or one of its plugins. Perhaps whatever plugin that does the autojoin.
[21:57] <SerialMDK> well that worked
[21:57] <SerialMDK> wth
[21:58] <SerialMDK> i added #ubuntu to auto join with this channel and now it works
[21:59] <SerialMDK> but if i take off #ubuntu it goes to room with no one in it
[21:59] <SerialMDK> w/e its fixed
[21:59] <SerialMDK> now i need help with wine
[22:01] <SerialMDK> bioterror:
[22:01] <SerialMDK> winecfg
[22:01] <SerialMDK> erm
[22:15] <geirha> What's the issue with wine? If wine works in general, but you're having trouble with a specific windows application, #winehq may be a better place to ask.
[22:58] <duanedesign> geirha: hello!
[22:58] <duanedesign> havent bumped into you in awhile.
[22:59] <duanedesign> geirha: hope you are well and glad you dropped in
[23:33] <Error404NotFound> t up dual display on ubuntu?
[23:33] <Error404NotFound> erm
[23:33] <Error404NotFound> how do i set up dual display on ubuntu
[23:39] <philipballew> can somebody help with hardware not working after my upgrade. i cant seem to figure it out
[23:41] <geirha> duanedesign: Hi :) Yeah I've been quite busy lately. Both work and school's been eating up my spare time.
[23:42] <geirha> philipballew: Depends on what hardware it is.
[23:43] <philipballew> my microphone stopped picking up sound
[23:44] <geirha> In all applications?
[23:45] <philipballew> it doesnt in my google phone and also it doesnt pick up on the input bar on the sound preferences
[23:46] <philipballew> so therefor it wouldnot work with any applactions i belive
[23:48] <geirha> Could you test it with the Sound Recorder? Applications -> Sound & Video -> Sound Recorder
[23:49] <philipballew> yes. hold on
[23:49] <geirha> (I had an issue with the microphone not working in skype or in the sound preferences, but it did work in the sound recorder)
[23:50] <philipballew> it did not. i am sorry,
[23:53] <duanedesign> philipballew: i thinki have the same bug
[23:54] <philipballew> there is already a launchpad bug filed i see
[23:56] <Error404NotFound> holstein:
[23:58] <geirha> Error404NotFound: Have you tried System -> Preferences -> Monitors?
[23:58] <Error404NotFound> i found how
[23:58] <Error404NotFound> but it doesnt mirror
[23:58] <geirha> philipballew: Mind sharing the url to that bug?
[23:59] <geirha> Mirror?
[23:59] <Error404NotFound> as in both monitors show the same thing