[07:17] <c2tarun> need help with bug 777973 I couldn't understand the last comment, Can anyone please explain?
[07:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 777973 in asciijump (Ubuntu) "Merge asciijump 1.0.2~beta-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/777973
[11:14] <hramrach_> Hello
[11:14] <hramrach_> How od I report bugs with Ubuntu mirrors?
[11:16] <hramrach_> The page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs which you get by trying to report an Ubuntu bug advises to run apport or whatever but you dan't need that for Ubuntu mirror bug and there is no way to actually report a bug
[11:16] <yofel> I'm not sure either, someone in #ubuntu-mirrors shoudl know
[11:17] <yofel> *should know
[11:31] <jfi> Hello, is it allowed for an upstream author to directly flag a bug as 'confirmed' in order to speedup the resolution?
[11:32] <jfi> it concerns this packaging "bug": bug #778415
[11:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 778415 in psensor (Ubuntu) "Missing Nvidia and Application Indicator support (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778415
[11:36] <micahg> jfi: you just need to make sure there's a valid e-maill address in the changelog and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, you can set it to confirmed at that point yourself to show it's ready for sponsorship
[11:37] <micahg> jfi: also, get rid of the extra newline at the end of debian/control
[11:38] <jfi> micahg, argh yes, the new changelog is wrong, I am going to fix it
[11:38] <jfi> micahg, thx for the information
[11:44] <jfi> micahg, fixed: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/71191903/778415.debdiff
[11:46] <micahg> jfi: you might want to say why you're adding that in the changelog
[11:47] <micahg> jfi: and this should probably move to #ubuntu-devel :)
[11:49] <jfi> jfi: ok, I will explanation in changelog. Sorry to be out of topic on this channel.
[13:48] <jtaylor> is pull-lp-source in natty broken?
[13:48] <jtaylor> e.g. pull-lp-source meld
[13:48] <jtaylor> some json decode error
[13:49] <micahg> jtaylor: wfm
[13:49] <jtaylor> ?
[13:49] <jtaylor> micahg: I'm not familiar with that abreviation
[13:50] <yofel> works for me too
[13:50] <jtaylor> ah
[13:50] <jtaylor> must be something local then
[13:51] <jtaylor> weird it works in oneirc which has the same version
[13:58] <jtaylor> hm the lpcache is somehow tainted, anyone know how to reset it?
[14:07] <jtaylor> found it: rm -rf $HOME.launchpadlib/
[14:09] <xieyi> I find a problem of rekonq 0.7.0 with kubuntu 11.04. When I download a file, a dialog ask for location to save the file. If I change the location the whole browser freazes. I think it may be a bug.
[14:11] <xieyi> rekonq alway prompt a dialog saying rekonq requires an additional plugin to decode this file The following plugin is required:text/html when I use the google translator
[15:28] <pcanham> Hi, could anyone help point me in the direction of any documents on how to debug shutdown issues, seeing on a Sony Vaio that you cant reboot or shutdown, screen shows just the background and this is it
[15:28] <pcanham> dmesg,message,syslog,kern.log showing no useful information either
[15:33] <micahg> pcanham: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Symptom
[15:35] <pcanham> thanks micahg will go though this and hopefully get some info together
[18:42] <tetsuo55> Is anyone working on the wifi regression(s) in 11.04?
[18:42] <tetsuo55> seems to span over several brands of wifi cards, so it appears to be the network manager or something
[18:43] <tetsuo55> symtoms are: Signal generally weaker than with 10.10/windows and once it drops below a certain level, it will start dropping so many packadges that at some point it completely loses the connection
[18:43] <tetsuo55> in these same locations 10.10/windows will stay connected at good speeds for days
[18:44] <tetsuo55> my wireshark logs on 11.04 look more black than green
[18:44] <tetsuo55> :(
[18:48] <hggdh> tetsuo55: please open a bug on it -- do not assume that this is generic; may be related to a specific wireless card/brand/firmware level
[18:49] <hggdh> tetsuo55: for example, my wireless works perfectly
[18:49] <EvilUrsinha> tetsuo55, and mine doesn't because of an specific driver change I know it's a regression for that hardware (there's an open bug for that)
[18:53] <hggdh> EvilUrsinha: Evil?
[18:53] <EvilUrsinha> hggdh, just for today :)
[18:53] <hggdh> heh
[19:22] <JoshuaL> Is bug #778653 an unity bug or should it be marked as affecting Ayatana Design?
[19:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 778653 in unity (Ubuntu) "Fullscreen firefox and xchat conflicts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778653
[19:26] <tetsuo55> Ursinha-lunch: what hardware do you have?
[19:26] <tetsuo55> hggdh: do you have a strong or weak signal? the bug only plays out when the signal is weak
[19:27] <tetsuo55> hggdh:  my wireless works fine too, if i stay in my office, but as soon as i walk to the other room, it starts acting up
[19:28] <tetsuo55> also what is the best way to open a bug so my hardware gets added to it?
[19:29] <yofel> file it with 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[19:29] <tetsuo55> there are so many open bugs for the 11.04 wifi regression that i'm not sure which one is like mine
[19:29] <tetsuo55> but that wont add hardware specs will it?
[19:29] <yofel> no one is, the kernel team wants seperate reports for everyone
[19:29] <tetsuo55> don't i need to use apport for it
[19:29] <yofel> ubuntu-bug *is* apport
[19:30] <tetsuo55> oh
[19:30] <tetsuo55> ok so i run that from terminal
[19:30] <yofel> well, you can use apport-bug too, ubuntu-bug is an alias for that
[19:30] <tetsuo55> running
[19:34] <tetsuo55> might as well keep going
[19:34] <tetsuo55> how should i report that " when switching from just the laptop screen, to just the external monitor, the extra resolution will be black, and alghough the mouse will go over it, the windows hide under it
[19:35] <tetsuo55> ok reported wifi regression here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/778671
[19:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 778671 in linux (Ubuntu) "Connection times out when WIFI signal is weak, regression from 10.10 to 11.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[19:38] <tetsuo55> i also have a crash bugs with unity that dont trigger apport
[19:40] <yofel> do you have apport actually enabled?
[19:45] <tetsuo55> yes
[19:45] <tetsuo55> i changed the line from 0 to 1
[19:51] <tetsuo55> and it catches other crashes like flash player
[19:52] <tetsuo55> doublechecked, its set to 1
[19:53] <JoshuaL> Is bug #778653 an unity bug or should it be marked as affecting Ayatana Design?
[19:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 778653 in unity (Ubuntu) "Fullscreen firefox and xchat conflicts (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778653
[19:57] <JoshuaL> tetsuo55, yofel that bugs looks like a duplicate of bug 776834 or am i mistakena?
[19:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 776834 in linux (Ubuntu) "Natty drops wifi if signal not four bars (affects: 2) (heat: 3264)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/776834
[19:57] <yofel> *that* is for the kernel team to decide
[19:57] <JoshuaL> ok
[19:58] <yofel> they don't like you adding infors to a bug unless you have the *exact* same hardware, firmware revision on the chips, bios rev, etc.
[19:58] <yofel> s/infors/infos/
[19:58] <JoshuaL> yofel, ok thanks :)
[20:20] <EvilUrsinha> tetsuo55, I have an eeepc with something that I have to check now :)
[20:22] <EvilUrsinha> tetsuo55, it's rt2860pci
[20:33] <ikt> where would be best to file a feature request for ubuntu to include the ability to downgrade an install?
[20:34] <hggdh> ikt: downgrade in what sense -- version, or package?
[20:34] <ikt> complete version
[20:34] <ikt> for example from 11.04 to 10.10
[20:35] <ikt> I mean an ideal state would be in a VM with snapshotting
[20:35] <ikt> but by itself it sounds fairly impossible
[20:36] <ikt> it would require backing up the entire computer maybe to a single tar? and then if you went back unrolling it out
[20:36] <hggdh> indeed... I am not sure this is generically possible. You cannot really tar up the whole install and then untar it -- it would conflict with the currently-running system, and all bets are then off
[20:37] <tetsuo55> EvilUrsinha: ok different from mine
[20:37] <hggdh> this is doable with an overlay filesystem
[20:38] <ikt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/775317
[20:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 775317 in ubuntu "Cannot down grade away from natty (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[20:38] <ikt> I can't think where to put :s
[20:38] <hggdh> ikt: perhaps http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[20:39] <ikt> ah yes, good idea
[20:43] <yofel> well, this *is* already planned
[20:43] <yofel> not before btrfs becomes stable though
[20:45] <hggdh> I did not know it was already planned
[20:45] <hggdh> good to know, though :-)
[20:45] <yofel> well, not sure about full upgrade backups, but I know people talked about this during natty
[20:45] <yofel> natty's ubiquity already makes a root and home subvolume if you install on btrfs which you need for upgrade snapthots
[20:46] <arand> yofel: Is it planned as in has a blueprint, or as in "hey, that'd be cool if someone does it.."
[20:47] <yofel> arand: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-foundations-n-btrfs-support there are items for apt snapshotting
[20:47] <arand> yofel: Actually, maverick's layout would work as well for snapshotting, though the ability to roll back / without doing the same with your home has its perks ;)
[20:48] <yofel> well, true, that's why we have a seperate root subvolume now
[20:48] <yofel> ikt: ^
[20:50] <ikt> nice :D
[22:23] <caudex> System - Prefs - Keyboard won't reset to defaults Apply-System-Wide (meerkat on tpad t-42) any ideas?
[23:29] <txomon> hello, I just discovered a kernel bug, that was a minor problem before, how was the command for kernel bugs ubuntu-bug ...
[23:30] <yofel> ubuntu-bug linux
[23:30] <txomon> oki
[23:33] <txomon> yofel, how can I mark it as a previously fixed bug?
[23:34] <yofel> txomon: use a regression tag https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags#Regression%20specific
[23:35] <txomon> and which one should I use for kernel one?
[23:35] <txomon> regression-update?
[23:36] <yofel> when was the last time it worked?
[23:37] <yofel> regression-release would be: worked in maverick, broke in natty. -updates is worked in natty and an update broke it, -proposed is for testing packages from <release>-proposed
[23:38] <txomon> oki
[23:38] <txomon> ty