[13:30] <scalability-junk> anyone using uec for production and can give me some hints?
[16:32] <ergonaut> Hello!  I'm looking for documentation on cloud-utils and cloud-init and any other tools and configuration specific to the cloud that are installed on the Amazon EC2 ubuntu server images.  I found documentation for cloud-init, but nothing much else.  Can you give me any pointers/resources?
[16:33] <kim0> ergonaut: maybe ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images .. if u have a specific something you want more info on, let us know
[16:33] <scalability-junk> just to check this. the storage space of the cluster is the diskspace available to the sc or?
[16:35] <ergonaut> kim0: what is contained in cloud-utils?
[16:36] <kim0> scalability-junk: ebs volumes will be carved out of the storage space available to SC indeed
[16:36] <kim0> ergonaut: dpkg -L cloud-utils :)
[16:36] <scalability-junk> ok thanks
[16:36] <scalability-junk> is there any paas layer for uec or eucalyptus?
[16:37] <ergonaut> ok, thanks, that helps.  I'm not as familiar with dpkg as perhaps I should be
[16:37] <kim0> scalability-junk: not "for" but maybe "could be made to work with" .. check out cloudfoundry
[16:37] <ergonaut> am I correct in assuming cloud-utils is mostly for creating and managing images then?
[16:38] <kim0> mostly yeah .. it's a collection of different tools ;)
[16:38] <ergonaut> could I say that cloud-utils is not really needed in day-to-day operations of a cloud instance (that will not be creating new images)?
[16:39] <kim0> ergonaut: yeah probably not needed for daily operations
[16:39] <ergonaut> ok, thanks, that helps.
[16:39] <ergonaut> I'm trying to figure out what tools are available to me so I don't reinvent the wheel.  I think I can ignore cloud-utils.
[16:40] <ergonaut> besides cloud-init and cloud-utils, are there any other modifications to cloud images, when compared to a non-cloud server install?
[16:40] <ergonaut> (also ignoring the kernel of course)
[16:42] <ergonaut> and... what happened to ec2-fetch-credentials from previous images?
[19:49] <giuseppe_> ciao
[19:50] <giuseppe_> cercavo il canale di assistenza chakra linux in italiano, sapete aiutarmi?
[19:57]  * kim0 whispers English please :)
[19:57] <giuseppe_> help
[20:09] <obino> giuseppe_: questo canale e' per UEC Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud
[20:40] <Kyle__> How does one go about building a windows 7 image for UEC?
[20:43] <Kyle__> I can find plenty of info on making windows-server and windowsXP images, but not for 7 (and yes, I have googled for it).
[20:47] <obino> Kyle__: I'm not a windows expert at all: have you tried the procedure for XP and see if it works with 7?
[20:48] <Kyle__> obino: Starting with vista they started with a compleetly different bootloader & booting process.  The same files aren't used, and I"m not enough of a windows expert to know which files to snag to make the boot floppy