* TheMuso is finding it difficult to work out why someone who wrote a packaging patch for a debian package decided to remove a .install file and use dh_install calls in debian/rules instead... | 00:52 | |
TheMuso | Baffling. | 00:52 |
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RAOF | Even well-understood magic can be, well, magic, I guess. | 00:58 |
TheMuso | Yeah, but I would have thought creating a new install file for the newly created binary package would be easier. | 01:01 |
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pitti | Good morning | 05:43 |
TheMuso | Hey pitti. | 05:48 |
astropirate | Anyone know if the gnome3-team PPA is working? | 07:17 |
astropirate | i mean stable | 07:17 |
astropirate | *enough to use | 07:17 |
TheMuso | From what I've heard, yes it is, but I haven't used it myself. | 07:20 |
vish | !gnome3 | astropirate | 07:20 |
ubot2 | astropirate: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible. | 07:20 |
astropirate | i don't care about unit. it is buggy | 07:22 |
astropirate | *unity | 07:22 |
vish | astropirate: also mentions "… and possibly other parts of your system," so use it at your own risk ;) | 07:22 |
astropirate | hehe i plan to | 07:23 |
astropirate | but just wanted to know if others had allready risked and if it had worked | 07:23 |
vish | astropirate: you'd have better luck about that question on #ubuntu … | 07:24 |
astropirate | vish ok, thanks | 07:25 |
vish | yw.. | 07:25 |
jbicha | I use the gnome3 PPA but I don't recommend others do | 07:28 |
astropirate | i tink this is the perfect opertunity to try other distros :D | 07:38 |
astropirate | expanding horizons and all that junk | 07:38 |
chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:39 |
vish | the world is your oyster! | 07:39 |
TheMuso | Hey chrisccoulson. | 07:39 |
chrisccoulson | hi TheMuso, how are you? | 07:39 |
vish | morn chrisccoulson … | 07:39 |
TheMuso | chrisccoulson: Not too bad thanks, just starting to get final bits and pieces together for my trip to UDS. | 07:39 |
pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:43 |
pitti | TheMuso: good luck! | 07:43 |
chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 07:43 |
chrisccoulson | TheMuso, when do you travel? | 07:43 |
pitti | chrisccoulson: splendid, thanks! slowly getting used to getting up at 6 | 07:43 |
chrisccoulson | i'm going to be a fairly late arriver, i don't travel until sunday :) | 07:43 |
TheMuso | pitti: Thanks, there is a little bit of luck involved I guess. | 07:44 |
TheMuso | chrisccoulson: I fly out tomorrow afternoon my time. | 07:44 |
TheMuso | In less than 24 hours to be exact. | 07:44 |
rodrigo_ | morning | 08:55 |
pitti | hey rodrigo_ | 08:59 |
rodrigo_ | hi pitti | 08:59 |
cdbs | Umm, is the Software Center 'reviews' server down? | 09:28 |
cdbs | mpt: ^^ | 09:28 |
mpt | cdbs, works for me | 09:45 |
mpt | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/reviews.ubuntu.com | 09:45 |
pitti | o_O is there _anything_ the internet doesn't provide? | 09:48 |
pitti | hah, http://iamboredandhavenothingtodo.com/ doesn't exist; quickly, point it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu! | 09:48 |
abhinav- | pitti: is there a gir for xlib as well ? | 09:58 |
pitti | abhinav-: not an usable one, I think; /usr/share/gir-1.0/xlib-2.0.gir merely provides some struct names and open_display | 09:59 |
pitti | abhinav-: use python-xlib for this | 09:59 |
pitti | (static binding) | 09:59 |
abhinav- | ah thanks | 09:59 |
abhinav- | pitti: in gtk2 this feature could have been added without any unnecessary extra dependencies but with gtk3 the list is mounting up and still no success :-/ | 10:01 |
pitti | abhinav-: at this point you should perhaps file an upstream bug with the requirements and point out the lost API? | 10:02 |
abhinav- | pitti: yeah. good suggestion. I cannot find any work around now :( | 10:02 |
pitti | or gnome-screenshot should just be taught to give you the XID/pid | 10:03 |
pitti | abhinav-: sorry for all the trouble.. | 10:03 |
abhinav- | pitti: yeah, it could be added to gnome-screenshot but it will add dependency on cairo and that will have to be done in C :-| | 10:04 |
abhinav- | pitti: no problem, its just that every morning I feel like I could do it today :P | 10:05 |
pitti | heh | 10:05 |
cdbs | chrisccoulson: The globalmenu extension in oneiric Thunderbird doesn't hide up the old-style menubar from the window | 10:35 |
cdbs | didrocks: hello there! Could you take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-default-apps-unity-integration ? | 10:48 |
didrocks | cdbs: hey Bilal! sure having a look :) | 10:49 |
didrocks | cdbs: is that something you want to work on? | 10:49 |
cdbs | didrocks: yep, but others could pick up just as well. | 10:50 |
cdbs | didrocks: We need to decide which app needs what | 10:50 |
cdbs | didrocks: and there are a ton of non-default-but-immensely-popular apps which could do with integration as well. | 10:50 |
cdbs | all that has to be decided | 10:50 |
cdbs | didrocks: So if you say so, I'll set assignee to myself | 10:51 |
didrocks | cdbs: ok, I'll ensure we have a designer coming and that it's scheduled then :) | 10:51 |
didrocks | cdbs: sure ;) | 10:51 |
* cdbs sets | 10:51 | |
cdbs | done | 10:51 |
didrocks | pitti: hey, can you approve this one, please? ^^ | 10:51 |
cdbs | didrocks: its approved already | 10:52 |
cdbs | pitti: ^ | 10:52 |
cdbs | pitti: oh no wait, it isn't | 10:52 |
didrocks | no, it's still "proposed" | 10:52 |
didrocks | I'm subscribing Jorge as well as we will need some community advocacy as well | 10:53 |
cdbs | exactly | 10:53 |
cdbs | Weird that the assignee would be attending remotely :( | 10:54 |
pitti | not "proposed" any more :) | 10:54 |
pitti | bonjour didrocks | 10:54 |
cdbs | didrocks: Enjoying Budapest? How's the whether there? | 10:54 |
didrocks | pitti: Guten Tag! ;) | 10:54 |
cdbs | pitti: Good morning , and thanks :) | 10:54 |
* cdbs should *seriously* learn french | 10:55 | |
didrocks | cdbs: well, depends, one day, it's a london weather, the other day it's really sunny ;) | 10:55 |
didrocks | some kind of flip/flap :) | 10:55 |
didrocks | cdbs: yeah, this is mandatory! :p | 10:55 |
pitti | for now I should seriously learn some Hungarian phrases | 10:55 |
didrocks | pitti: the "Sorry, I don't speak Hungarian" one? :-) | 10:56 |
didrocks | pitti: thanks for acking! | 10:56 |
cdbs | pitti: Fire up google translate and translate that :) | 10:56 |
pitti | "Elnézést, én nem beszélek magyarul!", ugh | 10:57 |
pitti | at least the pronounciation seems to be pretty straightforward | 10:57 |
seb128 | does it? ;-) | 10:58 |
cdbs | it is, just read it like one reads English | 10:58 |
cdbs | :) | 10:58 |
pitti | cdbs: exactly not -- English pronounciation is horribly inconsistent | 10:58 |
pitti | German, Russian, Hungarian etc. have strict rules, you pronounce as you write | 10:59 |
* pitti tries to remember "Szeretnék két sört" (two beer please) | 10:59 | |
Laney | I like your style — no need to ever order just one ;-) | 11:00 |
cdbs | sudo dd if=/dev/beer of=/home/pitti/glass{1,2} count=2048 # That's the unified way of saying that, no language barriers :) | 11:02 |
pitti | why sudo? | 11:03 |
pitti | access to beer should be fairly public! | 11:03 |
cdbs | oops | 11:03 |
Laney | requires administrator access to your body | 11:03 |
Laney | aka adulthood | 11:03 |
pitti | heh | 11:04 |
jbicha | use sudo when you really want to make sure something gets done | 11:07 |
jbicha | -f helps too :-) | 11:07 |
pitti | one day I want a T-Shirt with http://xkcd.com/149/ | 11:08 |
davmor2 | is there a way to make unity show up in the share my desktop feature on empathy? | 11:08 |
jbicha | pitti: oh you mean like this one? http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#Sudo | 11:09 |
pitti | right | 11:09 |
jbicha | but you want someone else to buy it for you? lol | 11:10 |
hyperair | does anybody know if we're moving to gtk3 in oneiric? | 12:03 |
pitti | hyperair: yes, we will | 12:22 |
hyperair | pitti: okay, awesome. | 12:22 |
pitti | gets high time to do so :) | 12:23 |
hyperair | yeah | 12:23 |
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ricotz | jbicha, ping | 13:27 |
ricotz | jbicha, regarding the gnome-session 3.0.1 merge, what is the reason for dropping debian/po-up/de.po? | 13:29 |
cyphermox | good morning! | 13:44 |
pitti | hey cyphermox | 13:53 |
cyphermox | hey pitti | 13:53 |
cyphermox | hey piiti, I seem to have a bug 776662 here that mentions an possible issue with gnome-panel ...ubuntu6.5; would make that system crash. any ideas how/why this would be? | 14:08 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 776662 in network-manager-applet "network-manager-gnome crashes on logon after the last update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/776662 | 14:08 |
pitti | cyphermox: oh, that was for me | 14:12 |
pitti | cyphermox: ah, so presumably a regression from the SRU in bug 774427? | 14:12 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 774427 in gnome-panel "Cannot add applets to second X server display in 11.04" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774427 | 14:12 |
cyphermox | maybe | 14:13 |
pitti | cyphermox: is it reproducible? I didn't try classic session recently | 14:13 |
cyphermox | I was about to try, but I doubt I'll be able to reproduce it | 14:13 |
pitti | I'd like to defer to rodrigo_ here, I need to leave now | 14:13 |
cyphermox | sure | 14:13 |
pitti | see you all in Budapest! | 14:13 |
cyphermox | see you there! | 14:13 |
jbicha | ricotz: oops, that wasn't intentional | 14:59 |
jbicha | I'm not really sure why that file would have been cleared on my computer; I had no reason to be touching the pos | 15:00 |
ricotz | jbicha, i see ;), do you want to propose a fix or shall i just add it back? | 15:01 |
jbicha | I can propose a merge for you | 15:02 |
ricotz | alright | 15:02 |
rodrigo_ | I have to do some stuff for my trip to budapest, so if I'm not back later, see you all in budapest! | 15:14 |
jbicha | ricotz: thanks for letting me know | 15:17 |
cyphermox | rodrigo_: alright ;) | 15:17 |
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bigon | what are the plan for gnome-shell and oneiric? | 22:24 |
kenvandine | bigon, we will be talking about that at UDS | 22:51 |
kenvandine | but we are expecting to have gtk3 and gnome3 in some fashion for oneirc | 22:51 |
bigon | alright | 22:52 |
kenvandine | but that isn't finalized or anything, just what we know we want to do | 22:52 |
bigon | ok ok | 22:54 |
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bcurtiswx | bigon, do you know if cassidy is going to UDS? | 23:11 |
bigon | bcurtiswx: good question, I know he's going to the guadec, but I'm not sure about UDS | 23:15 |
bcurtiswx | bigon, OK thanks :) | 23:16 |
bigon | this make me think that I should take vacations to go to the guadec | 23:19 |
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