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Macerer00:04
SpamapShallyn: Uploaded your patch to lucid-proposed, with an additional symlink from /usr/bin/ethtool to /sbin/ethtool so that peoples' scripts won't be broken if they've explicitly set the path.00:26
hallynSpamapS: thanks, since I had to respin anyway I shoulda done that!00:36
Jeffsihey guys, no matter what i do im not able to install ubuntu server, ive tried on 2 diferent pc's and in vmfuion on a mac and nothing is working, anyone have any experiance with ubuntu server?01:27
Jeffsianyone in here that could possibly help?01:29
jmarsdenJeffsi: It might help if you said what happens when you try to install it, what error message you see, or something specific like that? :)01:29
Jeffsiive had so many problems, the major one probably being that i cannot install on my old win 98 or me computer(it just shows a black screen with a blinking curser)01:30
jmarsdenJeffsi: That's likely to be a VERY old PC... what sort of CPU and how much RAM does it have, and what version of Ubuntu Server are you trying to install?01:31
Jeffsithis happens when i throw in the install disk i burnt01:31
Jeffsi1 moment01:32
Jeffsihttp://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00191402&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=&prodSeriesId=96393&prodTypeId=1245401:32
jmarsdenJeffsi: So 500MHz Celeron and 64MB RAM, I think I am reading??  64MB is too little RAM for Ubuntu Server, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu%20Server%20%28CLI%29%20Installation01:34
jmarsdenMinimum stated there is 128MB, even that may be too little now.01:34
Jeffsitheres 2 in there so 12801:34
jmarsdenDoes this CD you created boot Ok on other (more modern) PCs?01:35
Jeffsiall i want is a somewhat simple print server/ backup box01:35
Jeffsii have like 3 or 4 now with diferent versions and some do01:35
Jeffsii was trying to install this on to the main HDD on a different computer and i am able to boot up the installer but always run in to trouble before i can install01:37
jmarsden"always" and "run into trouble"?  Be specific please.  "When I boot a CD containing Ubuntu Server 10.04 (i386), it does *this*"  would at least give us a chance of helping you out.01:38
jmarsdenDo you have the other PC, the one you can get the installer to boot on, available now to attempt an install?01:39
Jeffsiwell on my compaq that i want this to eventually be on it is always with every disk i have tried(both LTS/ newest and i think i was using 64 and maybe a 32) giving me a black screen with a blinking text curser01:41
Jeffsiand im atempting to install it on the other computer right now01:41
Jeffsiis it possible that im just being impasiant with my compaq? if i remember correctly i have been waiting like 10-20 min then hard reseting01:42
jmarsdenOn an old Celeron from 10+ years ago, an amd64 (64bit) ISO is not going to work, more or less by definition.  Use the i386 (32bit) version for older machines.01:43
twbJeffsi: unless you have some burning desire to make this hardware work, you REALLY should just lay down $200 and get a much better machine01:43
jmarsdenI think it is more likely the CDROM drive of the old machine is flaky, but it is hard to say.  You should at least see the installer menus in less than 10 minutes.01:43
twbEven compared to contemporary hardware, compaqs were a right pain in the arse -- completely non-fungible01:44
Jeffsieventually i may but right now i cant afford that so i do really want to get this working for now01:45
jmarsdenEven just $60 or $70 should get you a P4 with 512MB and 80Gb HD on ebay :)01:46
JeffsiThe CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'release' file, or fie could not be read correctly.01:46
Jeffsiwhat should i search on ebay for something like that?01:47
jmarsdenJeffsi: Sounds like a bad CD or a bad CDROM drive.  If you boot it and run the Test this CD menu item does it pass?01:47
jmarsdenhttp://cgi.ebay.com/HP-COMPAQ-PAVILION-DX2200-P4-3-06GHZ-1G-80G-HDD-NO-OS-/290560612338?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item43a6c317f2 is one ending in 10 minutes :)01:47
Jeffsiid prefer to attempt to bring back this old dinosaur i have now and buy one later in the summer if needed01:51
jmarsdenJeffsi: I'd search for "desktop pc" and then narrow the search by price and specify at least 512MB RAM and see what you can find.  Try asking for only a dualcore CPU if you think you will get lucky :)01:51
jmarsdenJeffsi: On the machine you burned the CD on, did you verify the md5sum of the burned disk?01:51
jmarsdenSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM01:52
Jeffsino, should i try n do that?01:53
jmarsdenYes.  It helps to know the CD is good :)01:53
Jeffsii have tried like 4 of em id think at least 1 would work01:54
jmarsdenWhy guess, when there is a clearly documented way to test and be certain?!01:56
Jeffsiwhere can i download it?01:56
jmarsdenDowload what?  Read the HowToMD5SUM page.  It has links to md5sum tools for Windows and Mac OSX etc. etc.01:58
Jeffsisays the windows program is being updated?02:00
Jeffsior the site is02:00
qman__it'll work with 128, just02:02
qman__if you want to run anything on it you'll need at least 256 though02:02
jmarsdenJeffsi: Yes, and on the page saying that is also has a link saying "Download WinMD5Sum" -- use that link :)02:02
qman__my shell server is a K6 200MHz with 256MB, and it's just barely hanging in there02:03
qman__only reason I'm still using it is its dead reliable02:03
qman__more reliable than all the junk P4-ish things I have laying around02:03
Jeffsiany other os's i could maybe use?02:03
jmarsdenI need to go eat, may be back later on.02:03
Jeffsiok02:04
qman__nothing that's really up to date02:04
twbYou can't install current debian/ubuntu with qemu's default ram allocation, though you can boot that way02:04
qman__windows 2000 or older will work, as will most linux 2.4 kernel based distros02:05
twbWhen I tried it finished the install, but only because (AFAICT) dpkg had been OOM-killed a few times, so some things weren't actually installed02:05
qman__or anything where you compile your own reduced feature set kernel02:05
twbqman__: openwrt has 2.6 builds that run on 16MB NV, 32 V02:05
qman__yeah, 2.6 isn't the problem, it's just that most 2.6 distros have everything turned on for compatibility02:06
twbOf course, they aren't running desktop-y stuff :-)02:06
* twb hugs "make localyesconfig"02:06
qman__and the kernel alone is about 10MB02:06
twb-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.0M Jan  8 03:51 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3702:07
twbThat's a module-less targeted kernel02:08
qman__nice02:08
qman__my shell server is running the 386 kernel in the repos02:08
qman__3.9M kernel, 7.7M initrd02:08
twbCurrent kernels you can say "make localyesconfig; make localmodconfig" and it'll turn things off/off to target the current system02:08
twbqman__: oh, and that was x86-6402:08
qman__of course you have to get the system installed in the first place to do that02:09
twbright02:09
qman__plus ubuntu has a pretty fancy userspace02:10
qman__the memory used is negligible on modern systems, but trying to cram it into 128MB isn't going to be fun02:10
twbIMO it is WRONG to just assume a "modern" system has gigabytes per user :-/02:11
twbJava people do that out the wazoo02:11
qman__yeah02:11
twbOr for init(8) to need a userspace IPC daemon before it can actually start doing its job :-/02:12
twbBloody kids02:12
twbGet off my lawn02:12
qman__wow02:15
qman__removing four old kernels from my server, apt says 397MB will be freed02:15
qman__a bit much is an understatement02:16
twbYeah, debian kernels are around 100MB each02:16
twbMost of that is [M] drivers though02:16
qman__fair enough02:16
qman__the drive is only 10GB though02:16
qman__wish it would just automatically remove kernels it's not going to use, and just keep two02:17
qman__the currently running one and the latest one02:17
twbqman__: it would if you allowed it to02:18
twbqman__: that behaviour is specifically disabled in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ to prevent an upgrade making the system unbootable02:18
qman__ah02:19
twb01autoremove here02:19
qman__I thought it used to at some point, and it stopped02:19
twbObviously, edit that with care :-)02:19
crazifyngershey guys i'm having an issue with mdadm seeing my raid array after a reboot.  anyone available to help out?03:14
brannigJust noticed my 10.02 VPS host is running the *.32-22 kernel instead of the *.32-31. Reboot didn't fix after safe-upgrade. Also noticed that I have two grub.cfg's. One in /boot/grub and the other in /boot/boot/grub. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/603975/) It is the latter that seems to be loading the -22 kernel. I'm thinking of aptitude removing linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic-pae to resolve this: That a decent idea?05:17
noaXessgood morning06:18
noaXessif i ssh/login into my 10.04.2 servers i get the welcome message twice... one without information about updates, the other with inforation about updates.. the second one is wrong, cause all updates are installed..06:18
twbnoaXess: that's been happening a lot lately06:21
twbnoaXess: the junk to update motd isn't working for some reason06:22
noaXesstwb: how to fix that?06:22
twbI dunno yet06:22
twbIf you work it out tell me06:22
noaXesstwb: ok.. nop....06:22
noaXesstwb: which script creates this information?06:22
twbnoaXess: /etc/motd-update or something06:22
noaXesstwb: ok thanks...06:23
twbI remember because some idiot decided to introduce it into Debian right before a release, and pissed me off06:23
jmarsden/etc/motd-update.d/*    # I think06:25
noaXessmotd: http://pastebin.com/Zi6EMeVD06:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #778305 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77830507:56
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Guest29395hey08:54
Guest29395i'm using ubuntu 11.04, since a day or 2 evolution doesnt send my mails anymore08:55
Guest29395receiving is no problem08:55
dave_can anyone help me09:01
dave_??09:01
slim_hello all, is there how to configure dns server for ipv6 ?09:30
jamespageslim_: try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPv609:33
slim_thanks jamespage09:34
jamespagebah - no thats DHCP - I should read things prop before responding09:34
slim_dhcpv6 already working , the needed is dns, i search for it now09:37
twbjamespage: you don't need DHCPv6 to configure DNS (IIRC)09:39
twbMost of it's built into ICMPv6 now09:39
jamespagetwb: yeah I know - I was just having one of those morning moments....09:39
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uvirtbotNew bug: #778392 in eucalyptus (main) "[UEC 2.0+bzr1241-0ubuntu4.1] Unstable state for the iscsi daemon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77839210:16
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Ztripezi have set up our production server with ldap pam.. what would be best practis to give the members of the "developers"-(ldap)-group write access to /var/www/projects?13:44
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talntid2Can someone help me test my fail2ban configuration? All I need you to do, is try to connect to my server and give it some bad login credentials about 5 times. the hostname is: SpokanePCRepair.com14:25
talntid2SSH, of course14:26
ppetrakitalntid2, so what should the failure look like on my side?14:28
ppetrakitalntid2, it's not even prompting me for a password after 3 login attempts14:29
ppetrakitalntid2, so I guess it's working?14:30
ppetrakitalntid2, http://pastebin.com/Mkp4TVny14:30
talntid2perfect14:33
talntid2exactly what it should be doing14:33
talntid2much appreciated, ppetraki.14:36
ppetrakitalntid2, np14:38
zulSpamapS: im going to hold off the mysql merge ;)14:46
SpamapSzul: Yeah, probably a good idea. I was talking w/ Norbert about possibly getting 5.5 into Debian soon .. he wants to work on it starting next week.14:47
zulSpamapS: sweet14:47
ergonautEC2 or cloud specific question.  Where can I find documentation on the cloud-specific packages installed on the Ubuntu server images in Amazon EC2?  E.g. cloud-utils, etc.15:44
scalability-junkyou mean the uec?15:58
scalability-junkask in #ubuntu-cloud15:58
econI have a question about iptables if anyone can help me out. I set up my server so I can route my internet browsing from a wifi hotspot to it through ssh. I got this working, and then went to set the iptables. I allowed ssh, port 80, loopback and then set it to drop the rest. Now I can't load web pages. I think I need to allow the port for my SOCKS Host, which is 9999. I tried the command "sudo iptables -I INPUT -p SOCKS Host --dport16:17
econ9999 -j ACCEPT" but get the response "Bad argument 'SOCKS'". Can someone help me with how to enter this in correctly, or tell me if what I'm doing in general makes sense? Thanks.16:17
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lynxmanecon: -p is the protocol in iptables, so -p tcp --dport 9999 should do the trick for you, if you want to specify the socks host use -d xx.xx.xx.xx16:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #778588 in libcommons-fileupload-java (main) "[BLOCKED] Sync libcommons-fileupload-java 1.2.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77858817:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #778589 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.54-1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: underprocess installerade post-installation-skript gav felkod 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77858917:02
robohi: so in vmware I cloned a machine to a new machine. When I bring up that new machine it says that udev renamed network interface eth0 to eth1. I'm guessing it's because of the new mac address of the NIC?17:04
robois there a way to bring eth0 up?17:04
robon/m, i think i need to nuke /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules17:06
robohmm, fresh ubuntu 10.04LTS install. If i type apt-cache search apache or apt-cache http no apache packages return. Do I need to enable some respository?17:12
aBs0lut30how do you view the CPU affinity for a process?17:16
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morecheesehi all. getting a segmentation fault when using medusa... "error 6 in libc-2.11.1.so". tried reinstalling libc6 and medusa, still getting it.17:50
aBs0lut30anybody know of a good iSCSI channel?17:52
dassoukiI just got meself a linux host. What I'd liek to do is move my email and website to it as well as build some form of file access. I have about 8gb of CAD files from my company that i'd liek to mvoe to the web as I work from different locations and coutnries17:59
dassoukiHow can I set up my server to have such file system with a relatively secure manner17:59
aBs0lut30dassouki: your linux host, you mean as in a hosted server, or hardware you have?18:00
dassoukiaBs0lut30: linode that i've been using for a year or so18:00
aBs0lut30gotcha... well there are probably a thousand diffrent ways to do what you want, but the quickest, easiest, and most secure would be to use SCP/SFTP18:01
aBs0lut30runs over SSH so if you have shell access no extra setup required(unless its turned off in the config...)18:01
dassoukiaBs0lut30: I'm using sftp now on a folder outside of /var/www obviously, I'd like to move to something more user friendly18:02
aBs0lut30gotcha... well... let me think...18:02
aBs0lut30tell me what you have in mind by "more user friendly"18:02
aBs0lut30one thing that comes to mind would be to use WEBDav18:04
aBs0lut30would let you open it in windows explorer and browse/open/move(etc) files... a bit slow IMHO though18:04
dassoukiSomething like dropbox I guess, but with a local mirror18:04
jetoleDoes anyone know if there is a way for me to install a previous version of a package through apt-get or aptitude?18:04
dassoukiaBs0lut30: i guess the issue is with sftp i end up stuck with local and remote copies, I'd like to eliminate that. Second I'm not looking for source control, as a lot of times I need to open up all versions of a design/doc and look at them18:05
aBs0lut30so, basicly something to store the data backend and then sync changes to/from the client?18:05
dassoukijetole: i'm not sure that's possible18:05
dassoukijetole: but try #ubuntu perhasp18:05
dassoukiaBs0lut30: automatic syncing as in if the version is different don't write over, just write a new file with a time stamp18:06
jetoledassouki: well I tried there last night but this is for a server and you do get better answers in here so18:06
* jetole shrugs18:06
dassoukijetole: how about ubuntu.stackexchange.com18:06
dassoukii think that's teh address anyways18:06
* jetole looks18:06
aBs0lut30jetole: try giving it a full package name with version and the force option18:06
aBs0lut30dass: one thing that also comes to mind would be rSync... not sure how well that plays with windows though18:07
jetoleaBs0lut30: do you know how I can see the list of version names. I did a force upgrade with libldap on hold since I custom compiled the package to use openssl instead of gnutls. this force uninstalled openldap server though which requires version X or higher of libldap18:08
aBs0lut30dass: take a look at this... never used it myself, but may be along the lines of what you want http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/18:08
aBs0lut30jet: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html18:09
jetoledassouki and aBs0lut30: I think I found the answer: http://www.skorks.com/2009/07/downgrading-a-ubuntu-package/18:09
jetoleaBs0lut30: thanks18:13
aBs0lut30np18:13
dassoukii wish there were a dropbox implementation18:20
aBs0lut30well one other thing to look at(I really have stayed away from it cause i just dont like the idea...) the Ubuntu Cloud setup might have something that could help you... from the bit I have read its really meant to deliver apps/data over the net...18:21
dassoukiya i'm not sure I want to be on the cloud18:21
dassoukia lot of the data I use is client confidential18:22
aBs0lut30well, they have some "cloud" software designed for private cloud setups18:22
aBs0lut30I hear ya there, I am the financial sector so thats the main reason I have stayed away from it...18:22
aBs0lut30plus just dont have the time to learn something new18:22
robodo I need to enable some repository to get apache2? Fresh 10.04lts install19:09
roboif I run apt-cache search apache2 nothing returns19:10
NoqturnalXCan you run squid-deb-proxy alongside regular squid?19:11
ruben23hi guys any idea on setting up a jabber server on my ubuntu-server..19:11
giovaniruben23: ejabberd is pretty popular19:16
robooh, i had to run apt-get update. I need to do that after a fresh install?19:18
ruben23giovani:any how to do it..?19:19
giovaniruben23: plenty of documentation online19:19
aBs0lut30hey guys, anybody know if there is a way to slave nic's without ifenslave? got a box that I reloaded and the switch is already setup for LACP, and wont bring up the interfaces so i cannot get to apt to install ifenslave :(20:15
hallynzul: are you around?20:18
hallynzul: do you mind uploading http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc_0.7.4-0ubuntu8-package.tar.gz ?20:18
zulhallyn: sure20:20
hallynzul: thanks20:21
hallynzul: now i really have got to look into getting upload rights to the debian lxc package20:21
zulhallyn: yes tell me about it20:22
hallyni've not the slightest clue how, but time to start googling (and email guido)20:22
zulemail guido i think20:23
zulhallyn: done20:25
stgraberhallyn: yeah!20:27
uvirtbotNew bug: #778701 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77870120:32
Juv1228hello21:50
Juv1228im having trouble installing 11.04 from the release CD21:50
Juv1228i managed to get to installing base system then it asked for the cd labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd6421:50
Juv1228where my cd is labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release amd6421:50
Juv1228also, the CD passed the integrity checks21:51
guntbertJuv1228: I'm a little confused - now you said "after the installation" and before you said you are in the middle of install ?21:52
Juv1228guntbert, let me clarify21:53
Juv1228following the install CD's prompts i get to the "Install Base System" step21:53
Juv1228hit enter, it starts doing its thing, then at roughly 90% of the way through that step is when it asks for the other CD21:54
guntbertJuv1228: I see .. I haven't installed server in a while it seems - so no help from me - sorry, but it looks like your CD drive might be faulty21:55
Juv1228i guess, it was the CD image from the main download page for ubuntu server and has passed integrity checks on the boot menu21:56
alaingI have a headless ubuntu-server and I'm running php 5.1 who do I upgrade it from shellprompt?21:56
Juv1228http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download21:57
Juv1228its the ISO from there, i just hit "download"21:57
guntbert!md5sum | Juv122821:57
ubottuJuv1228: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:57
guntbertand Juv1228 : might the *drive* be faulty?21:58
Juv1228not to my knowledge, its fairly new and ive installed several OS's using it21:59
Juv1228also, isnt that what the integrity checks do on the CD's boot menu?21:59
guntbertJuv1228: the integrity check runs check on the files, you can run one on the whole iso too, and about the drive - I'm just trying to find a cause22:01
Juv1228idk, it seems more like the image was built incorrectly or something22:02
Juv1228or one single part of the installer is looking for a CD labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd6422:03
Juv1228and wasnt updated or some such22:03
Juv1228seems like im not the only one22:05
Juv1228http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/629471/installing-scratch-ubuntu-server-20110426-mediacdrom22:05
guntbertJuv1228: *blush*  - only now I see the real difference - sorry for the fuss about md5sum -- if there are more please consider filing a bug report22:06
Juv1228guess ill just use the mini iso22:07
Juv1228that guy said it worked, so here we go!22:07
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Juv1228just to confirm for anyone wondering, the ubuntu 11.04 amd64 release CD does not work for me, but the mini cd does22:41
Juv1228so it appears some house-keeping needs to be done on the 11.04 server cd images22:42
guntbertJuv1228: please consider filing a bug report22:42
Juv1228sorry for my stupidity, but ive never had to file one22:43
Juv1228where exactly do i do it? lo0l22:43
guntbert!bug | Juv122822:43
ubottuJuv1228: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots22:43
Juv1228thanks22:43
guntbertJuv1228: you need to create a launchpad account22:44
Juv1228i assume my ubuntu sso thing will not work?22:45
guntbertJuv1228: it should22:45
bencchow do I uninstall a server I installed with ./configure && make && sudo make install23:12
Picibencc: there isn't a standard way of removing things like that.  You could check if the makefile specified an uninstall or remove target. Or next time, use checkinstall and usually you'll be able to somewhat cleanly remove it by removing the package.23:25
Pici!checkinstall23:25
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!23:25
benccPici: I will, thanks23:26
Picibencc: If you're really in a bind, I guess you could reinstall the program using checkinstall this time and then remove it.  Its all a bit iffy though.23:27
benccPici: I agree23:28
benccdeb packages rock23:29
Juv1228Pici, wow, thanks for that link23:30

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