[00:04] <Macer> er
[00:26] <SpamapS> hallyn: Uploaded your patch to lucid-proposed, with an additional symlink from /usr/bin/ethtool to /sbin/ethtool so that peoples' scripts won't be broken if they've explicitly set the path.
[00:36] <hallyn> SpamapS: thanks, since I had to respin anyway I shoulda done that!
[01:27] <Jeffsi> hey guys, no matter what i do im not able to install ubuntu server, ive tried on 2 diferent pc's and in vmfuion on a mac and nothing is working, anyone have any experiance with ubuntu server?
[01:29] <Jeffsi> anyone in here that could possibly help?
[01:29] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: It might help if you said what happens when you try to install it, what error message you see, or something specific like that? :)
[01:30] <Jeffsi> ive had so many problems, the major one probably being that i cannot install on my old win 98 or me computer(it just shows a black screen with a blinking curser)
[01:31] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: That's likely to be a VERY old PC... what sort of CPU and how much RAM does it have, and what version of Ubuntu Server are you trying to install?
[01:31] <Jeffsi> this happens when i throw in the install disk i burnt
[01:32] <Jeffsi> 1 moment
[01:32] <Jeffsi> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c00191402&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=&prodSeriesId=96393&prodTypeId=12454
[01:34] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: So 500MHz Celeron and 64MB RAM, I think I am reading??  64MB is too little RAM for Ubuntu Server, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu%20Server%20%28CLI%29%20Installation
[01:34] <jmarsden> Minimum stated there is 128MB, even that may be too little now.
[01:34] <Jeffsi> theres 2 in there so 128
[01:35] <jmarsden> Does this CD you created boot Ok on other (more modern) PCs?
[01:35] <Jeffsi> all i want is a somewhat simple print server/ backup box
[01:35] <Jeffsi> i have like 3 or 4 now with diferent versions and some do
[01:37] <Jeffsi> i was trying to install this on to the main HDD on a different computer and i am able to boot up the installer but always run in to trouble before i can install
[01:38] <jmarsden> "always" and "run into trouble"?  Be specific please.  "When I boot a CD containing Ubuntu Server 10.04 (i386), it does *this*"  would at least give us a chance of helping you out.
[01:39] <jmarsden> Do you have the other PC, the one you can get the installer to boot on, available now to attempt an install?
[01:41] <Jeffsi> well on my compaq that i want this to eventually be on it is always with every disk i have tried(both LTS/ newest and i think i was using 64 and maybe a 32) giving me a black screen with a blinking text curser
[01:41] <Jeffsi> and im atempting to install it on the other computer right now
[01:42] <Jeffsi> is it possible that im just being impasiant with my compaq? if i remember correctly i have been waiting like 10-20 min then hard reseting
[01:43] <jmarsden> On an old Celeron from 10+ years ago, an amd64 (64bit) ISO is not going to work, more or less by definition.  Use the i386 (32bit) version for older machines.
[01:43] <twb> Jeffsi: unless you have some burning desire to make this hardware work, you REALLY should just lay down $200 and get a much better machine
[01:43] <jmarsden> I think it is more likely the CDROM drive of the old machine is flaky, but it is hard to say.  You should at least see the installer menus in less than 10 minutes.
[01:44] <twb> Even compared to contemporary hardware, compaqs were a right pain in the arse -- completely non-fungible
[01:45] <Jeffsi> eventually i may but right now i cant afford that so i do really want to get this working for now
[01:46] <jmarsden> Even just $60 or $70 should get you a P4 with 512MB and 80Gb HD on ebay :)
[01:46] <Jeffsi> The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'release' file, or fie could not be read correctly.
[01:47] <Jeffsi> what should i search on ebay for something like that?
[01:47] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: Sounds like a bad CD or a bad CDROM drive.  If you boot it and run the Test this CD menu item does it pass?
[01:47] <jmarsden> http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-COMPAQ-PAVILION-DX2200-P4-3-06GHZ-1G-80G-HDD-NO-OS-/290560612338?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item43a6c317f2 is one ending in 10 minutes :)
[01:51] <Jeffsi> id prefer to attempt to bring back this old dinosaur i have now and buy one later in the summer if needed
[01:51] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: I'd search for "desktop pc" and then narrow the search by price and specify at least 512MB RAM and see what you can find.  Try asking for only a dualcore CPU if you think you will get lucky :)
[01:51] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: On the machine you burned the CD on, did you verify the md5sum of the burned disk?
[01:52] <jmarsden> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[01:53] <Jeffsi> no, should i try n do that?
[01:53] <jmarsden> Yes.  It helps to know the CD is good :)
[01:54] <Jeffsi> i have tried like 4 of em id think at least 1 would work
[01:56] <jmarsden> Why guess, when there is a clearly documented way to test and be certain?!
[01:56] <Jeffsi> where can i download it?
[01:58] <jmarsden> Dowload what?  Read the HowToMD5SUM page.  It has links to md5sum tools for Windows and Mac OSX etc. etc.
[02:00] <Jeffsi> says the windows program is being updated?
[02:00] <Jeffsi> or the site is
[02:02] <qman__> it'll work with 128, just
[02:02] <qman__> if you want to run anything on it you'll need at least 256 though
[02:02] <jmarsden> Jeffsi: Yes, and on the page saying that is also has a link saying "Download WinMD5Sum" -- use that link :)
[02:03] <qman__> my shell server is a K6 200MHz with 256MB, and it's just barely hanging in there
[02:03] <qman__> only reason I'm still using it is its dead reliable
[02:03] <qman__> more reliable than all the junk P4-ish things I have laying around
[02:03] <Jeffsi> any other os's i could maybe use?
[02:03] <jmarsden> I need to go eat, may be back later on.
[02:04] <Jeffsi> ok
[02:04] <qman__> nothing that's really up to date
[02:04] <twb> You can't install current debian/ubuntu with qemu's default ram allocation, though you can boot that way
[02:05] <qman__> windows 2000 or older will work, as will most linux 2.4 kernel based distros
[02:05] <twb> When I tried it finished the install, but only because (AFAICT) dpkg had been OOM-killed a few times, so some things weren't actually installed
[02:05] <qman__> or anything where you compile your own reduced feature set kernel
[02:05] <twb> qman__: openwrt has 2.6 builds that run on 16MB NV, 32 V
[02:06] <qman__> yeah, 2.6 isn't the problem, it's just that most 2.6 distros have everything turned on for compatibility
[02:06] <twb> Of course, they aren't running desktop-y stuff :-)
[02:06]  * twb hugs "make localyesconfig"
[02:06] <qman__> and the kernel alone is about 10MB
[02:07] <twb> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.0M Jan  8 03:51 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37
[02:08] <twb> That's a module-less targeted kernel
[02:08] <qman__> nice
[02:08] <qman__> my shell server is running the 386 kernel in the repos
[02:08] <qman__> 3.9M kernel, 7.7M initrd
[02:08] <twb> Current kernels you can say "make localyesconfig; make localmodconfig" and it'll turn things off/off to target the current system
[02:08] <twb> qman__: oh, and that was x86-64
[02:09] <qman__> of course you have to get the system installed in the first place to do that
[02:09] <twb> right
[02:10] <qman__> plus ubuntu has a pretty fancy userspace
[02:10] <qman__> the memory used is negligible on modern systems, but trying to cram it into 128MB isn't going to be fun
[02:11] <twb> IMO it is WRONG to just assume a "modern" system has gigabytes per user :-/
[02:11] <twb> Java people do that out the wazoo
[02:11] <qman__> yeah
[02:12] <twb> Or for init(8) to need a userspace IPC daemon before it can actually start doing its job :-/
[02:12] <twb> Bloody kids
[02:12] <twb> Get off my lawn
[02:15] <qman__> wow
[02:15] <qman__> removing four old kernels from my server, apt says 397MB will be freed
[02:16] <qman__> a bit much is an understatement
[02:16] <twb> Yeah, debian kernels are around 100MB each
[02:16] <twb> Most of that is [M] drivers though
[02:16] <qman__> fair enough
[02:16] <qman__> the drive is only 10GB though
[02:17] <qman__> wish it would just automatically remove kernels it's not going to use, and just keep two
[02:17] <qman__> the currently running one and the latest one
[02:18] <twb> qman__: it would if you allowed it to
[02:18] <twb> qman__: that behaviour is specifically disabled in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ to prevent an upgrade making the system unbootable
[02:19] <qman__> ah
[02:19] <twb> 01autoremove here
[02:19] <qman__> I thought it used to at some point, and it stopped
[02:19] <twb> Obviously, edit that with care :-)
[03:14] <crazifyngers> hey guys i'm having an issue with mdadm seeing my raid array after a reboot.  anyone available to help out?
[05:17] <brannig> Just noticed my 10.02 VPS host is running the *.32-22 kernel instead of the *.32-31. Reboot didn't fix after safe-upgrade. Also noticed that I have two grub.cfg's. One in /boot/grub and the other in /boot/boot/grub. (http://paste.ubuntu.com/603975/) It is the latter that seems to be loading the -22 kernel. I'm thinking of aptitude removing linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic-pae to resolve this: That a decent idea?
[06:18] <noaXess> good morning
[06:18] <noaXess> if i ssh/login into my 10.04.2 servers i get the welcome message twice... one without information about updates, the other with inforation about updates.. the second one is wrong, cause all updates are installed..
[06:21] <twb> noaXess: that's been happening a lot lately
[06:22] <twb> noaXess: the junk to update motd isn't working for some reason
[06:22] <noaXess> twb: how to fix that?
[06:22] <twb> I dunno yet
[06:22] <twb> If you work it out tell me
[06:22] <noaXess> twb: ok.. nop....
[06:22] <noaXess> twb: which script creates this information?
[06:22] <twb> noaXess: /etc/motd-update or something
[06:23] <noaXess> twb: ok thanks...
[06:23] <twb> I remember because some idiot decided to introduce it into Debian right before a release, and pissed me off
[06:25] <jmarsden> /etc/motd-update.d/*    # I think
[06:26] <noaXess> motd: http://pastebin.com/Zi6EMeVD
[08:54] <Guest29395> hey
[08:55] <Guest29395> i'm using ubuntu 11.04, since a day or 2 evolution doesnt send my mails anymore
[08:55] <Guest29395> receiving is no problem
[09:01] <dave_> can anyone help me
[09:01] <dave_> ??
[09:30] <slim_> hello all, is there how to configure dns server for ipv6 ?
[09:33] <jamespage> slim_: try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DHCPv6
[09:34] <slim_> thanks jamespage
[09:34] <jamespage> bah - no thats DHCP - I should read things prop before responding
[09:37] <slim_> dhcpv6 already working , the needed is dns, i search for it now
[09:39] <twb> jamespage: you don't need DHCPv6 to configure DNS (IIRC)
[09:39] <twb> Most of it's built into ICMPv6 now
[09:39] <jamespage> twb: yeah I know - I was just having one of those morning moments....
[13:44] <Ztripez> i have set up our production server with ldap pam.. what would be best practis to give the members of the "developers"-(ldap)-group write access to /var/www/projects?
[14:25] <talntid2> Can someone help me test my fail2ban configuration? All I need you to do, is try to connect to my server and give it some bad login credentials about 5 times. the hostname is: SpokanePCRepair.com
[14:26] <talntid2> SSH, of course
[14:28] <ppetraki> talntid2, so what should the failure look like on my side?
[14:29] <ppetraki> talntid2, it's not even prompting me for a password after 3 login attempts
[14:30] <ppetraki> talntid2, so I guess it's working?
[14:30] <ppetraki> talntid2, http://pastebin.com/Mkp4TVny
[14:33] <talntid2> perfect
[14:33] <talntid2> exactly what it should be doing
[14:36] <talntid2> much appreciated, ppetraki.
[14:38] <ppetraki> talntid2, np
[14:46] <zul> SpamapS: im going to hold off the mysql merge ;)
[14:47] <SpamapS> zul: Yeah, probably a good idea. I was talking w/ Norbert about possibly getting 5.5 into Debian soon .. he wants to work on it starting next week.
[14:47] <zul> SpamapS: sweet
[15:44] <ergonaut> EC2 or cloud specific question.  Where can I find documentation on the cloud-specific packages installed on the Ubuntu server images in Amazon EC2?  E.g. cloud-utils, etc.
[15:58] <scalability-junk> you mean the uec?
[15:58] <scalability-junk> ask in #ubuntu-cloud
[16:17] <econ> I have a question about iptables if anyone can help me out. I set up my server so I can route my internet browsing from a wifi hotspot to it through ssh. I got this working, and then went to set the iptables. I allowed ssh, port 80, loopback and then set it to drop the rest. Now I can't load web pages. I think I need to allow the port for my SOCKS Host, which is 9999. I tried the command "sudo iptables -I INPUT -p SOCKS Host --dport
[16:17] <econ> 9999 -j ACCEPT" but get the response "Bad argument 'SOCKS'". Can someone help me with how to enter this in correctly, or tell me if what I'm doing in general makes sense? Thanks.
[16:48] <lynxman> econ: -p is the protocol in iptables, so -p tcp --dport 9999 should do the trick for you, if you want to specify the socks host use -d xx.xx.xx.xx
[17:04] <robo> hi: so in vmware I cloned a machine to a new machine. When I bring up that new machine it says that udev renamed network interface eth0 to eth1. I'm guessing it's because of the new mac address of the NIC?
[17:04] <robo> is there a way to bring eth0 up?
[17:06] <robo> n/m, i think i need to nuke /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:12] <robo> hmm, fresh ubuntu 10.04LTS install. If i type apt-cache search apache or apt-cache http no apache packages return. Do I need to enable some respository?
[17:16] <aBs0lut30> how do you view the CPU affinity for a process?
[17:50] <morecheese> hi all. getting a segmentation fault when using medusa... "error 6 in libc-2.11.1.so". tried reinstalling libc6 and medusa, still getting it.
[17:52] <aBs0lut30> anybody know of a good iSCSI channel?
[17:59] <dassouki> I just got meself a linux host. What I'd liek to do is move my email and website to it as well as build some form of file access. I have about 8gb of CAD files from my company that i'd liek to mvoe to the web as I work from different locations and coutnries
[17:59] <dassouki> How can I set up my server to have such file system with a relatively secure manner
[18:00] <aBs0lut30> dassouki: your linux host, you mean as in a hosted server, or hardware you have?
[18:00] <dassouki> aBs0lut30: linode that i've been using for a year or so
[18:01] <aBs0lut30> gotcha... well there are probably a thousand diffrent ways to do what you want, but the quickest, easiest, and most secure would be to use SCP/SFTP
[18:01] <aBs0lut30> runs over SSH so if you have shell access no extra setup required(unless its turned off in the config...)
[18:02] <dassouki> aBs0lut30: I'm using sftp now on a folder outside of /var/www obviously, I'd like to move to something more user friendly
[18:02] <aBs0lut30> gotcha... well... let me think...
[18:02] <aBs0lut30> tell me what you have in mind by "more user friendly"
[18:04] <aBs0lut30> one thing that comes to mind would be to use WEBDav
[18:04] <aBs0lut30> would let you open it in windows explorer and browse/open/move(etc) files... a bit slow IMHO though
[18:04] <dassouki> Something like dropbox I guess, but with a local mirror
[18:04] <jetole> Does anyone know if there is a way for me to install a previous version of a package through apt-get or aptitude?
[18:05] <dassouki> aBs0lut30: i guess the issue is with sftp i end up stuck with local and remote copies, I'd like to eliminate that. Second I'm not looking for source control, as a lot of times I need to open up all versions of a design/doc and look at them
[18:05] <aBs0lut30> so, basicly something to store the data backend and then sync changes to/from the client?
[18:05] <dassouki> jetole: i'm not sure that's possible
[18:05] <dassouki> jetole: but try #ubuntu perhasp
[18:06] <dassouki> aBs0lut30: automatic syncing as in if the version is different don't write over, just write a new file with a time stamp
[18:06] <jetole> dassouki: well I tried there last night but this is for a server and you do get better answers in here so
[18:06]  * jetole shrugs
[18:06] <dassouki> jetole: how about ubuntu.stackexchange.com
[18:06] <dassouki> i think that's teh address anyways
[18:06]  * jetole looks
[18:06] <aBs0lut30> jetole: try giving it a full package name with version and the force option
[18:07] <aBs0lut30> dass: one thing that also comes to mind would be rSync... not sure how well that plays with windows though
[18:08] <jetole> aBs0lut30: do you know how I can see the list of version names. I did a force upgrade with libldap on hold since I custom compiled the package to use openssl instead of gnutls. this force uninstalled openldap server though which requires version X or higher of libldap
[18:08] <aBs0lut30> dass: take a look at this... never used it myself, but may be along the lines of what you want http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[18:09] <aBs0lut30> jet: http://blog.andrewbeacock.com/2007/03/how-to-install-specific-version-of.html
[18:09] <jetole> dassouki and aBs0lut30: I think I found the answer: http://www.skorks.com/2009/07/downgrading-a-ubuntu-package/
[18:13] <jetole> aBs0lut30: thanks
[18:13] <aBs0lut30> np
[18:20] <dassouki> i wish there were a dropbox implementation
[18:21] <aBs0lut30> well one other thing to look at(I really have stayed away from it cause i just dont like the idea...) the Ubuntu Cloud setup might have something that could help you... from the bit I have read its really meant to deliver apps/data over the net...
[18:21] <dassouki> ya i'm not sure I want to be on the cloud
[18:22] <dassouki> a lot of the data I use is client confidential
[18:22] <aBs0lut30> well, they have some "cloud" software designed for private cloud setups
[18:22] <aBs0lut30> I hear ya there, I am the financial sector so thats the main reason I have stayed away from it...
[18:22] <aBs0lut30> plus just dont have the time to learn something new
[19:09] <robo> do I need to enable some repository to get apache2? Fresh 10.04lts install
[19:10] <robo> if I run apt-cache search apache2 nothing returns
[19:11] <NoqturnalX> Can you run squid-deb-proxy alongside regular squid?
[19:11] <ruben23> hi guys any idea on setting up a jabber server on my ubuntu-server..
[19:16] <giovani> ruben23: ejabberd is pretty popular
[19:18] <robo> oh, i had to run apt-get update. I need to do that after a fresh install?
[19:19] <ruben23> giovani:any how to do it..?
[19:19] <giovani> ruben23: plenty of documentation online
[20:15] <aBs0lut30> hey guys, anybody know if there is a way to slave nic's without ifenslave? got a box that I reloaded and the switch is already setup for LACP, and wont bring up the interfaces so i cannot get to apt to install ifenslave :(
[20:18] <hallyn> zul: are you around?
[20:18] <hallyn> zul: do you mind uploading http://people.canonical.com/~serge/lxc_0.7.4-0ubuntu8-package.tar.gz ?
[20:20] <zul> hallyn: sure
[20:21] <hallyn> zul: thanks
[20:21] <hallyn> zul: now i really have got to look into getting upload rights to the debian lxc package
[20:22] <zul> hallyn: yes tell me about it
[20:22] <hallyn> i've not the slightest clue how, but time to start googling (and email guido)
[20:23] <zul> email guido i think
[20:25] <zul> hallyn: done
[20:27] <stgraber> hallyn: yeah!
[21:50] <Juv1228> hello
[21:50] <Juv1228> im having trouble installing 11.04 from the release CD
[21:50] <Juv1228> i managed to get to installing base system then it asked for the cd labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64
[21:50] <Juv1228> where my cd is labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release amd64
[21:51] <Juv1228> also, the CD passed the integrity checks
[21:52] <guntbert> Juv1228: I'm a little confused - now you said "after the installation" and before you said you are in the middle of install ?
[21:53] <Juv1228> guntbert, let me clarify
[21:53] <Juv1228> following the install CD's prompts i get to the "Install Base System" step
[21:54] <Juv1228> hit enter, it starts doing its thing, then at roughly 90% of the way through that step is when it asks for the other CD
[21:55] <guntbert> Juv1228: I see .. I haven't installed server in a while it seems - so no help from me - sorry, but it looks like your CD drive might be faulty
[21:56] <Juv1228> i guess, it was the CD image from the main download page for ubuntu server and has passed integrity checks on the boot menu
[21:56] <alaing> I have a headless ubuntu-server and I'm running php 5.1 who do I upgrade it from shellprompt?
[21:57] <Juv1228> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download
[21:57] <Juv1228> its the ISO from there, i just hit "download"
[21:57] <guntbert> !md5sum | Juv1228
[21:58] <guntbert> and Juv1228 : might the *drive* be faulty?
[21:59] <Juv1228> not to my knowledge, its fairly new and ive installed several OS's using it
[21:59] <Juv1228> also, isnt that what the integrity checks do on the CD's boot menu?
[22:01] <guntbert> Juv1228: the integrity check runs check on the files, you can run one on the whole iso too, and about the drive - I'm just trying to find a cause
[22:02] <Juv1228> idk, it seems more like the image was built incorrectly or something
[22:03] <Juv1228> or one single part of the installer is looking for a CD labeled Ubuntu-Server 11.04 _Natty Narwhal_ - Release amd64
[22:03] <Juv1228> and wasnt updated or some such
[22:05] <Juv1228> seems like im not the only one
[22:05] <Juv1228> http://ircanswers.com/ubuntu/629471/installing-scratch-ubuntu-server-20110426-mediacdrom
[22:06] <guntbert> Juv1228: *blush*  - only now I see the real difference - sorry for the fuss about md5sum -- if there are more please consider filing a bug report
[22:07] <Juv1228> guess ill just use the mini iso
[22:07] <Juv1228> that guy said it worked, so here we go!
[22:41] <Juv1228> just to confirm for anyone wondering, the ubuntu 11.04 amd64 release CD does not work for me, but the mini cd does
[22:42] <Juv1228> so it appears some house-keeping needs to be done on the 11.04 server cd images
[22:42] <guntbert> Juv1228: please consider filing a bug report
[22:43] <Juv1228> sorry for my stupidity, but ive never had to file one
[22:43] <Juv1228> where exactly do i do it? lo0l
[22:43] <guntbert> !bug | Juv1228
[22:43] <Juv1228> thanks
[22:44] <guntbert> Juv1228: you need to create a launchpad account
[22:45] <Juv1228> i assume my ubuntu sso thing will not work?
[22:45] <guntbert> Juv1228: it should
[23:12] <bencc> how do I uninstall a server I installed with ./configure && make && sudo make install
[23:25] <Pici> bencc: there isn't a standard way of removing things like that.  You could check if the makefile specified an uninstall or remove target. Or next time, use checkinstall and usually you'll be able to somewhat cleanly remove it by removing the package.
[23:25] <Pici> !checkinstall
[23:26] <bencc> Pici: I will, thanks
[23:27] <Pici> bencc: If you're really in a bind, I guess you could reinstall the program using checkinstall this time and then remove it.  Its all a bit iffy though.
[23:28] <bencc> Pici: I agree
[23:29] <bencc> deb packages rock
[23:30] <Juv1228> Pici, wow, thanks for that link