[00:01] I remember the cpu did get hot when run at full speed [00:01] i'm trying to figure out how to get vmbuilder to work. I have it working on another machine but this just errors [00:01] but it is one of them AthlonXP-m chips, so can get it to stay at 800mhz [00:01] :\ [00:03] ? [00:03] ah yeah, sorry. Brain is fading ;) [00:03] http://www.osnews.com/story/24700/_PSN_Ran_Outdated_Unpatched_Apache_without_Firewall_ [00:03] Just... no... [00:04] so nothing clever, just lazy [00:05] :/ [00:06] * brobostigon sets up gwibbers dual panes, to show election reuslts, seperatly. [00:08] :) [00:08] when are AV results in? [00:16] tomorrows [00:16] Hi [06:37] how do i get a .sh script to call a different .sh script in a different terminal ? [06:39] i tried to call the script sudo ./scriptname.sh but it runs in that terminal ;/ [06:40] dragonkeeper: can't you just run it in the background or do you specifically want it to pop up into another terminal? [06:41] ging: i want it to pop up another terminal and that new terminal to open a file [06:42] I guess it could run the gnome-terminal command [06:42] but this is a pretty odd thing to want to do [06:42] i tried gnome-terminal scriptname.sh but it just opened a terminal like normal [06:44] gnome-terminal -e find / & [06:45] that will launch a terminal in the background, and list all files on your system in it, then close [06:45] I did find / because a short command like ls means the terminal barely opens before it closes again [06:46] so if i do gnome-terminal -e " then put a command here" ? [06:46] yeah [06:46] but like I said, this is an odd request [06:47] what if you want to run the command whilst not running X? [06:48] i just like alot of stuff to open at same time and some are scripts so wanted to make one script to boot it all up at same time [06:52] that works perfectly [06:53] now only if was a way to give script root privileges with out having type a pass [06:55] there is [06:55] setuid [06:55] I have no idea how to use it, I never have [06:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid [06:57] ahh ok ty [07:11] \o [07:11] morning all [07:48] morning [07:53] morning peeps [07:54] Got a meeting on your manor this morning popey [07:54] * popey raises the drawbridge [07:54] lol [07:54] :) [07:57] Help! How do you create a list of packages that everything else depends on? [07:57] Aloha [07:58] * popey waits for 9am to phone virgin to get his internet back on [07:59] er 8am [08:00] what happened? [08:02] got a new hub [08:02] http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2092166_election_local_council_results "In Waverley, all opposition [to the Tories] has been virtually wiped out. " [08:04] morning [08:04] yes oddly enough whe I wen to vote yesterday [08:04] there was a local election [08:04] I'd not heard anything of [08:04] back home I'd go 1 2 3 [08:05] over here I can only Go X [08:05] very odd [08:05] and I voted on the AV bring ye more in line with common sense voting [08:06] I'd of voted Schulze method [08:12] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1283756073.png MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAH! [08:13] popey: New internet connection in your Evil Underground Lair? [08:13] Yes! [08:13] too bad about the upload though [08:13] that upload is just perfect for me :) [08:13] popey: I'm getting 100/100 [08:13] nice! [08:13] Blimey - that's fast. [08:13] popey: speaking of upload :) [08:13] Shame I live nowhere near a cable service [08:17] I wonder how they're going to connect the fibre to my appartment [08:22] (I'm on the 7th floor) [08:24] dangle a cable from a helicopter [08:25] popey: unlikely [08:55] morning all [08:59] http://blog.canonical.com/?p=566 [09:00] ooh what did we say this time [09:00] hello all [09:02] moning all [09:02] :) [09:02] zoiks [09:03] popey: ? [09:04] see the link TheOpenSourcerer posted [09:04] oh right its matt zimmerman leaving. sad days [09:05] :( [09:05] so true [09:05] the man is a great guy and so approachable [09:05] blimey [09:05] wonder if he's off to Google :) [09:05] hehe [09:06] Morning peeps, good or otherwise [09:06] lo bigcalm [09:06] sometimes it's just time to move on. [09:06] MooDoo: true [09:07] popey: what will you be doing with your new found bandwidth? [09:07] mdz news makes me sad [09:07] moin all [09:07] * bigcalm hugs Myrtti happy [09:07] Hmmph. Either it's a compression effect or my ISP has upgraded my bandwidth without asking. Bastards. [09:07] I met him in barcelona when I wne to my first uds and sat talking to him, not exactly realising who he actually was.he was very helpful listened and has always been helpful when I asked him to speak at events. [09:08] hello pipa and pippa [09:08] pipa: you mean packages on your system? [09:08] czajkowski: sounds a pleasant chappy..... [09:08] he is [09:09] I love the articles he shares in greader [09:09] bigcalm: right now, I am using debmirror :) [09:10] ohh Bones [09:10] and Big bang theory [09:10] time for some beans on toast, and tea [09:10] :D [09:10] bones.....ftw! [09:11] yeah, Bones rocks, as does Fringe [09:11] yay fringe [09:11] and smallville and eureka [09:11] and ncis [09:11] NCIS LA was damn good yesterday [09:11] there is a mole in NCIS [09:12] wonder wll the director go [09:12] only watched the first few of those, think i need to catch up [09:12] czajkowski: i thought it was jimmy at first but now i'm not so sure [09:12] I used to watch Smallville, it got a bit wierd. Quite like Eureka though. [09:12] noooo has to be someone on the new team [09:12] mmm beans on toast, could go for some of that [09:12] czajkowski: i dunno, they are there only as part of their introduction coz they are the new spin off [09:13] bah [09:13] really [09:13] gibbs really hates them [09:13] czajkowski: well i'm only guessing, but it was mentioned they were showing the new spin off team [09:13] hmm [09:13] no likey [09:13] the blonde is annoying [09:14] czajkowski: better not be abi :D [09:14] one of the team is from Numb3rs [09:14] really? [09:14] ducky! [09:14] oh yeah [09:14] no not ducky [09:14] i'm thinking a minor char [09:15] denoza nope not after last nights ep, not jimmy, he wuldnt have the balls to do it, no abi as well,... no... not gibs, so it has to be ducky or his assistant, or the director is out for gibbs [09:15] jimmy is duckys assistant [09:16] oh thinking of ... [09:16] bah [09:16] names.. [09:16] czajkowski: glad i'm able to download them from the states :D [09:17] ooo bones ep 21 :D [09:17] TIm McGee [09:17] popey: have VM asked you to max out the connection for hours on end? ;) [09:17] nah [09:17] supernatuaral is another good one. [09:18] MOrnin [09:18] o/ [09:20] bigcalm: :) [09:20] bigcalm: I have downloaded ~50GB in the last 24 hours or so [09:20] Oooh - shiny. 480core ARM Server: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/calxeda-to-offer-480-core-arm-server-20110314/ [09:21] popey: Balls to the fair useage policy! [09:21] Laterz all. [09:21] popey: please tell me thats not all natty updates :p [09:21] TheOpenSourcerer: toodles [09:22] czajkowski: thats a copy of the entire natty repo, i386 and amd64 [09:22] TheOpenSourcerer: ttfn [09:22] popey: what odd testing are you doing [09:23] wel. [09:23] imagine having a USB stick that boots to either (optionally) the i386 or AMD64 ISO [09:24] you do the install, then point your apt at the usb stick and install anything you want from the repo [09:24] so you can do fully offline installs [09:24] actually funny thing, I've not one USB in the house [09:24] * AlanBell has a USB belonging to czajkowski [09:24] heh [09:25] you do [09:25] ducky [09:25] quack [09:26] i have 3 usb sticks in my pocket at all times [09:28] is that a USB stick in your pocket or are you just . . . never mind [09:28] * MooDoo shakes head :D [09:28] Just realised the folly of Radio 4 recording the Friday Night News Quiz on Thursday. As with them speculating over the wedding last week, it'll be speculation over the voting results today [09:29] * Myrtti is watching a show about ospreys in UK, interesting [09:29] there's been an election? [09:29] ;) [09:30] Not really that bothered about the local elections, it's the AV result I want to know [09:30] i can tell you that already [09:30] oimon: ah that explains the extra traffic [09:30] bigcalm: 8pm tonight [09:30] MooDoo: indeed! [09:30] Myrtti: the rugby team ? [09:30] but we all know the answer already :) [09:30] czajkowski: no, the bird [09:30] i have a new theory. the election result is always NOT what the masses on twitter are proclaiming [09:30] Myrtti: oh right yes [09:31] czajkowski: it's the official bird of these parts of Finland, the town I was born started out as a mill village of the parish called "osprey hill" in English [09:32] Myrtti: ah ok, I just associate it with one of the rugy teams we play [09:33] http://www.natureit.net/kamera/saaksisaatio [09:34] czajkowski: you really are a rugby fan aren't you :D [09:35] again I'm going to point out I'm from Limerick, which is in Munster the home of Irish rugby [09:35] you either follow rugby or GAA [09:35] it's as simple as that [09:36] bbc live news seems screwed today [09:36] morning - my rugby highlight just pinged [09:36] danfish: go pick another date YOU:RE free so we can go watch a rugby match again [09:38] czajkowski: world cup soon so plenty of choice :) [09:39] early matches though, so beer for breakfast [09:39] BEEEEEEEEEEEEER :D [09:39] :D [09:41] * popey hugs ali1234 [09:41] * popey is riding ali1234's train track [09:42] popey: Minecraft? [09:42] danfish: tons of time to find a ub we cna reserve a space ! [09:42] ya [09:42] last pub was grand and all but space would be idea [09:42] l [09:46] czajkowski: plenty on time for theopensourcerer to get a licence to serve booze and set up a pub in his back garden ;) [09:47] gmail takes longer to load than evolution! [09:47] gmail crashes less than evolution! [09:47] and makes firefox throw up an unresponsive script thing. why must all email clients suck? :( [09:47] a lot less [09:48] gord: It's rule #1 of the internet [09:48] :F [09:48] :D [09:48] gord: (from the same list as #34) [09:48] haven't seen evolution crash in a long time [09:48] gord: going catatonic == crash [09:48] It might not technically be a crash if it stays running in an infinite loop/wait [09:49] But it's dead to me :) [09:50] use imap+ [09:50] gord: Sorry, employer uses Exchange [09:57] morning everyone. [09:59] for everyone who wanted to try gnome3, from the gnome3-teams ppa, gnome-session 3.0.1, is inthere, and is fixed, to start other things from gdm, than only gnome-shell. [10:02] still breaks unity though, doesn't it? [10:02] http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2237#comic [10:02] nope, unity started fine. [10:05] Hi hi, happy Friday! :) [10:06] morning JamesTait :) [10:37] vps suggestions? [10:37] bitfolk [10:37] brobostigon: i use memset, people use linode or bitfolk [10:37] * gord sings the i hate google docs song [10:37] thank you chaps, [10:37] its the worst thing in the world [10:38] gord: it could be worse, you could be singing the i hate m$ office song [10:39] eh at least ms office sort of works, google docs just plain sucks [10:40] bitfolk do debian sid on their vps's as an option, interesting choice. [10:40] brobostigon: they have an irc channel, #bitfolk on irc.lug.org.uk [10:41] the best advice I can give you is "don't use anything free as in gratis" [10:41] drop by and say hi to grifferz [10:41] he can answer your questions === serial is now known as Guest85815 [10:41] popey: ah, intersting, will do, thank you. [10:41] my problems with any hosting provider has always started when I've not paid for the service [10:41] and thus can't expect any service === 13WAAOEP0 is now known as WinterWeaver [10:43] Yesterday I prompted a client to have 10.04 LTS installed on their new VM with Bytemark. #doingMyBit [10:45] Remind me how to change the default editor for the CLI? [10:51] bitfolk looks like it will will do the job. good price aswell. [10:52] :) [10:52] brobostigon: they are very good, i just wanted cpanel on my box [10:52] MooDoo: ah, ok. [10:52] if you mention my name if/when you sign up, then i get a bonus, which I donate to debian [10:52] ah, thats ok. [10:53] much of a bonus? [10:53] well, I've referred a bunch of people, and the DPL dropped me a mail to say thanks :) [10:53] so probably not huge amounts, but a bit [10:54] and ipv6. [10:58] ah, thats nice [11:02] morning all [11:02] czajkowski: prod hello [11:03] davmor2: pokes [11:04] Yay! hugs czajkowski [11:11] czajkowski: you better enough to be poked again? [11:13] MooDoo: only on good days [11:14] davmor2: pah! [11:14] MooDoo: you need to watch her twitter feed to find out which it is :) [11:14] * czajkowski hugs davmor2 [11:14] davmor2: thanks :) [11:14] heh [11:14] ok [11:14] no probs [11:30] Can anyone remember what the query parameter is to tell URL shortening sites to display a "preview" page telling you what URL you're about to visit? [11:34] ivanka: thanks for replying to my mails so fast! clears up my inbox swiftly! :) [11:37] JamesTait: offten adding a + to the end of the url will do that [11:37] I should add that feature to my own URL shortener at some point :S [11:37] bigcalm: That's the one - I just found it on Google, thanks. :) [11:39] Ok [11:45] at what point did memory management by linux applications become so bad that 4gb isn't enough RAM for some basic apps like email/internet/office? [11:46] oimon: my machine never makes it past ~2gigs [11:46] dogmatic69: how often do you reboot? [11:47] 10:46:31 up 7 days, 22:52, 3 users, load average: 0.37, 0.33, 0.32 [11:47] oimon: it is here but then I shut down each night [11:47] chrome + ff ~50 tabs xchat, netbeans, ~10 terminals connected to 6 servers [11:48] i have memory probs on most of my apps [11:48] skype dropbox music etc [11:48] i'm on lucid [11:48] 10.10 32bit for me [11:49] thunderbird/chromium/pidgin/hotot/openoffice/evince - killing my machine - each morning i have a 2gb swap in use and 60-80% RAM used [11:51] oimon: thunderbird in lucid had a memory leak, pidgin also iirc, open office if left open uses more ram as it keeps saving automagically . [11:51] also hotot and chromium eat RAM [11:51] it didn't used to be like this [11:52] oimon: Banshee is my biggest memory killer [11:53] i get that too, although disabling useless plugins helps [12:15] Hi [12:15] afternoonings reaper4334 [12:15] how is everyone? [12:16] good here [12:16] **** really, not so hot. [12:17] hm... what would my BASE_SERVER_VHOST be? :s [12:18] the full hostname of the vps maybe? [12:23] ok something is up with vlc [12:23] it plays most of my movies [12:23] the stops [12:23] but continues juming but no sound [12:23] *jumping [12:23] so have to hard reboot then as all machine locks up [12:24] i had a similar problem 2 days ago on my desktop pc - machine hard froze during vlc playback, needed to give it the finger [12:29] http://www.talktalk.co.uk/ << LOL [12:33] Anyone tried the new nVidia driver which was released on 20/4 ? (270.x.x) [12:33] !info nvidia-current [12:33] nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 260.19.06-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 25690 kB, installed size 76364 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [12:33] ooo [12:33] wintellect: I haven't, is it any good? === serial is now known as Guest45324 [12:37] wintellect: seems I'm using it on natty [12:37] its rubbish [12:48] popey: lubotu3 reported the 260.x.x version [12:49] the latest is 270.x.x - released about 15 days ago or so [12:49] i have 270 here [12:54] wintellect: 270.41.06-0ubuntu1 [12:55] popey: so how is your 30 meg connection and do you get limited to 5 meg if you download more iso in peak hours? [12:56] anyone here work with vmbuilder? [12:57] davmor2: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284032579.png [12:57] envy [12:57] I'm on ADSL about a million miles from an exchange :/ [12:57] heh [12:57] carrier pigeon is probably quicker [12:59] * popey ponders slapping a 3rd 2TB disk in his server and migrate from RAID1 to RAID5 [13:00] * kazade ponders piggybacking popey's wifi [13:00] heh, not worth the travel though :p [13:01] right, off to see the Colonel about some fried chicken [13:01] mmmmmm [13:01] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284037138.png [13:02] not bad :) [13:03] dogmatic69: gimme a few minutes ;) [13:03] lol [13:04] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284039857.png [13:04] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284040221.png [13:04] gah, I have to install flash on this server to beat you [13:05] haha [13:05] popey's in front, im 2nd :P [13:05] oh, it's like that is it [13:05] meh I can't wait till june 6 at 3pm when my reliability issue disappear supposedly [13:05] davmor2: bigcalm: your 19.99 is no match for my supreme 20.05 [13:05] my download speed's depressing compared to most of those http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284041377.png [13:06] Heh [13:06] dogmatic69: that's a good speed for me I'll do it again this afernoon and watch it drop into the pits of hell [13:06] hehe [13:07] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1283793563.png he he :) [13:07] davmor2: mine will go up when every stops leaching it with work stuff [13:07] Yep, VirginMedia do that to us [13:07] Apacheuk: in a datacentre? [13:08] Apacheuk: bt? why so fast [13:08] nope, at home.... btinfinity [13:08] wow! [13:08] :/ [13:08] * dogmatic69 wants bt ∞ [13:08] BT Infinity won't be coming here as it's already a cabeled area [13:08] love the upload, makes backing up a lot quicker [13:09] http://www.speedtest.net/result/1284044303.png [13:09] bah [13:09] * bigcalm kippers AlanBell [13:09] heh [13:09] there is bt infinity here, but when they launched they had 300gb/month ,limits combined upstream/down which wouldnt be enough. however i believe they just removed that [13:09] was going to wait to see what the 100mbit virgin offer looked like [13:09] AlanBell: I think you win! [13:09] (mostly concerned about decent upstream) [13:10] AlanBell: where you get that? [13:10] Denmark by the looks of it [13:10] one of our servers [13:10] germany [13:10] * dogmatic69 wants 70Mb/s upload [13:10] oh [13:10] :| [13:10] Doh, I always forget .de isn't denmark [13:11] 100mbit would suit me fine [13:11] it is a core i7 980 extreme running KVM, that is one of the VMs running Natty [13:11] both ways [13:11] it is in fact mumble.libertus.co.uk [13:12] 404 [13:12] yeah, not much of a web server there [13:12] ah [13:12] not a 404 though, no web server on port 80 [13:13] chrome complaining ~= 404 :P [13:13] (there is interesting stuff on port 3000 and port 59125 for the curious) [13:14] heya all [13:15] howdy howdy howdy [13:15] AlanBell: that speech synthesis client is pretty cool [13:15] reaper4334: yeah, and I got it working with speech dispatcher so you can integrate it with the desktop [13:15] works with orca [13:16] popey: you well? [13:16] AlanBell: that screams for a minecraft server [13:16] I want to pop something together that listens on dbus for libnotify stuff and throws it at speech dispatcher [13:16] so all the little notify popups get read out loud [13:16] that'd be pretty cool [13:16] useful too [13:17] yup yup [13:17] that makes me happy :) [13:19] AlanBell: doesn't that happen already? [13:19] with the accessibility stuff [13:23] X3N: if you are running orca it can read notifications [13:23] but that needs at-spi on by default which it isn't [13:24] and lots of people would not want to run orca all the time [13:24] oh right, this isn't for accessibility reasons? [13:24] not directly [13:25] but I have a general objective of getting accessibility tools in more mainstream use [13:25] to get more eyeballs on them and more developers [13:25] it should be pretty quick to write anyway :) [13:25] yes [13:25] you could even do it in a bash script heh [13:25] really? [13:26] how would you listen for notifications via a script? [13:26] speaking is easy, just spd-say "hello world" [13:26] some accessibility tools are incredibly useful. like simulate second click - for example on touchscreens [13:27]