[01:02] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/rAW/
[01:02] <snap-l> It has arrived, and it is still awesome. :)
[01:08] <rick_h__> still loading
[01:09] <rick_h__> that is one big pdf
[01:09] <snap-l> Yeah, it is
[01:09] <snap-l> It's the third printing
[01:10] <snap-l> Fully CC licensed. No need for disclaimers
[01:13] <greg-g> pretty
[01:27] <snap-l> Yeah, I've been kicking around using the mechanics and artwork and making a video game
[01:28] <snap-l> The setting is awesome, and the folks who make it seem genuinely cool with people using the stuff
[01:29] <snap-l> Definitely a change from some of the shithead moves of other companies.
[01:30] <PainBank> nice
[01:32] <PainBank> snap-l: wish I would have caught the question or discussion before a few minutes ago.
[01:32] <PainBank> ah well.
[01:33] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/rAW/
[01:33] <snap-l> PainBank: ^^ PDF File. ;)
[01:33] <snap-l> Fully CC licensed. No need for disclaimers
[01:33] <PainBank> thnx
[01:33] <snap-l> np
[01:46] <PainBank> snap-l: wow, 400 page doc... that is quite an extensive game.
[01:46] <PainBank> so what are you doing on it?
[01:46] <snap-l> Nothing yet, but I have some ideas percolating
[01:48] <PainBank> hmmm...
[01:48] <PainBank> but right now, this is a RPG for pen/paper, right?
[01:48] <snap-l> Yeah
[01:49] <rick_h__> party time
[01:49] <snap-l> rick_h__: More drugs?
[01:49] <rick_h__> naw, meant your game
[01:49] <snap-l> Oh, yeah
[01:49] <rick_h__> I'm on a constant drug barage
[01:49] <rick_h__> but the big ones are slowly wearing off
[01:49] <rick_h__> so at times almost feel nomrla
[01:49] <rick_h__> normal
[01:49] <rick_h__> until I have to "drink my dinner"
[01:50] <rick_h__> and the ouch that brings
[01:50] <rick_h__> snap-l: so do you have a crew you play these games with?
[01:50] <PainBank> until the normla wears off, I like it
[01:50] <rick_h__> club or someting?
[01:50] <snap-l> No, I don't.
[01:50] <snap-l> JoDee and I have played a few of them
[01:50] <snap-l> but mostly I mine them for ideas
[01:51] <rick_h__> cool
[01:55] <PainBank> makes me think old school scifi rpg like Star Frontiers
[01:55] <PainBank> or gamma world
[01:57] <snap-l> Yeah, but a lot darker than those games
[01:57] <PainBank> snap-l: so are you chatting with the folks at Posthuman Studios?
[01:57] <snap-l> I asked them if I could help them do a case study for Creative Commons
[01:57] <PainBank> I enjoyed Shadowrun and if it has some basis from there... cool
[01:57] <PainBank> sweet
[01:58] <snap-l> Um, they used to be a part of Catalyst Game Labs
[01:58] <snap-l> worked on Shadowrun 4th
[01:58] <PainBank> yup
[01:58] <snap-l> They split off, though, because of some stupidity at catalyst
[01:58] <snap-l> mostly mixing of funds with personal goals
[01:59] <snap-l> (on the Catalyst side)
[02:02] <PainBank> sure, and that sucks.
[02:12] <PainBank> well, time for me to head home.
[02:12] <PainBank> talk to you all later
[03:15] <snap-l> I <3 Java
[03:15] <snap-l> I'm being told to use JDK 1.5 because it doesn't ship with JAXWS.
[03:16] <brousch> good to see you've come around
[03:16] <snap-l> Never mind that JDK 1.5 was last supported in 2009
[03:17] <brousch> welcome to the enterprise
[03:17] <brousch> giant apps built on crusty old stable platforms
[03:18] <snap-l> Yeah, and I get to install my own Java
[03:18] <snap-l> FML
[13:01] <wolfger> morning, peeps
[13:02] <rick_h__> ugh, morning
[13:04] <_stink_> heh
[13:35] <brousch> fucking windows
[13:47] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:47] <snap-l> and yes
[13:51] <snap-l> Yay for morning webcasts
[13:54] <snap-l> Love that they use music that sounds like it should be playing at the Rainforest Cafe.
[13:54] <wolfger> so if you are making an IM client...and specifically branding it for office use (say, by calling it Office Communicator as a wild example)... would you ever even consider making "(s)" display a moon-smiley?
[13:55] <snap-l> communicator does that?
[13:55] <wolfger> I mean, what's more common for office use, denoting something(s) as optionally plural, or wanting to display a moon?
[13:55] <wolfger> yes, OC does that
[13:56] <wolfger> and I'm glad I was only chatting with my friend, and not, say, the head of my department
[13:56] <wolfger> because it looks terribly unprofessional
[13:57] <snap-l> I'm not seeing that one.
[13:57] <wolfger> Maybe it's special Chrysler rules?  O.o
[13:58] <snap-l> I do love, thhough, that all yesterday this update program was bitching me out that it was going to install something
[13:58] <snap-l> and now this fine morning, during a webcast, it decides to start loading
[13:58] <wolfger> this is OC 2007 R2, fwiw
[13:58] <snap-l> I hope it decides to restart my machine without telling me, because that would be awesome
[13:58] <wolfger> LOL
[13:58] <snap-l> Yeah, we're only on 2005
[13:59] <wolfger> that would be full of win and covered in awesome sauce, it would
[13:59] <snap-l> With bacon
[14:00] <wolfger> so sometime between 2005 and 2007, MS forgot they were designing an office product....
[14:00] <wolfger> ...or the avg professional level of offices around the country plummeted
[14:00] <wolfger> I can believe either, really.
[14:08] <jrwren> why fucking windows?
[14:08] <jrwren> snap-l: rofl @ jdk1.5
[14:09] <snap-l> jrwren: Seriously, Java is pathetic
[14:09] <brousch> jrwren: user has a virus this morning. other users have missing references due to some people on win7 and some on xp
[14:09] <brousch> i was hoping to get some real work done
[14:14] <jrwren> snap-l: oh, I know it is.  But its nice to hear you say it.
[14:18] <snap-l> jrwren: When have I apologized for Java?
[14:18] <snap-l> I used to like it, but it's become a miserable mess. :)
[14:19] <snap-l> It's impossible to know what to do without serious help
[14:19] <jrwren> its still nice to hear.
[14:19] <jrwren> somethings just don't get tired.
[14:20] <snap-l> heh
[14:43] <wolfger> LOL. I just don't understand sports nuts sometimes.
[14:43] <wolfger> I don't understand why people get so excited about the NFL draft in the first place...
[14:44] <jrwren> i could explain it.
[14:44] <wolfger> but leading up to this year's draft, Sports Illustrated published at least 3 (I'm thinking 5 or 6) projections of which team would take which player
[14:44] <wolfger> and they were wrong
[14:44] <wolfger> and today, they have online "early projections for the 2012 draft". WTF???
[14:45] <wolfger> You don't even know yet what order the teams will be picking in.
[14:45] <wolfger> slow news day in the sports world?
[14:46] <ColonelPanic001> "lol our local franchise of a business defeated another local franchise of the same business. yay!"
[14:46] <ColonelPanic001> "they're our team! they represent us! None of them had ever been here before being hired!"
[14:47] <wolfger> LOL
[14:48] <wolfger> Kinda like having national pride in the armed forces if they were mostly foreign mercenaries....
[14:48] <wolfger> but, no, that part I understand. :-)
[14:48] <wolfger> even if it's nonsensical
[14:48] <ColonelPanic001> actually getting excited or enthusiastic about professional sports is just stupid
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> "The Red Wings are our team! All of those Russians and Canadians are *our* people"
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> the obscene paycheck has nothing to do with it
[14:50] <wolfger> the paycheck always has everything to do with it, whether it's sports, IT, factory work, flipping burgers....
[14:51] <wolfger> You can say the armed forces are doing it to serve their country, but notice how they all still take a paycheck...
[14:51] <wolfger> and ask yourself, if they stopped getting them, how long would they keep serving their country?
[14:52] <ColonelPanic001> I don't see anything there to disagree with.
[14:53] <wolfger> so the fact that we're paying them to represent us doesn't change the fact that they represent us.
[14:53] <ColonelPanic001> no, but in the case of sports, that's why they're there. It has nothing to do with the team, place. They're traded around like commodities
[14:54] <wolfger> when they do good, we feel good about ourselves, and when they do bad.... they suck and we need a new team. :-D
[14:54] <ColonelPanic001> I have as much reason to cheer for Arizona's team as I do for "ours", except for a slight bump in local economy from home games, maybe.
[14:54] <ColonelPanic001> Why feel good about myself if the Wings do well? What do they have to do with me, other than happening to play half their games here?
[14:55] <snap-l> Imagine what we could do if we funnelled all of the pro sports money into the arts?
[14:55] <snap-l> Like the DSO, for instance
[14:55] <ColonelPanic001> ^
[14:55] <wolfger> The bolster Detroit's economy and Detroit's image.
[14:55] <ColonelPanic001> or having a school system that isn't complete shit.
[14:56] <wolfger> Hmm. So, how would the DSO benefit us?
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> but no, let's pay Federov nearly 100 million dollars to hit a puck
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> (I might be a bit behind in my sports news)
[14:56] <wolfger> ROFL
[14:56] <wolfger> a bit
[14:56] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Yeah, just a hair
[14:56] <jrwren> sports is more fun to watch.
[14:56] <jrwren> its entertainment.
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> I'd rather watch high school kids play.
[14:56] <jrwren> people like being entertained.
[14:56] <jrwren> what is the big deal?
[14:56] <snap-l> I'm glad yu didn't say "Gordie Howe"
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> the cost.
[14:56] <snap-l> The $$
[14:56] <jrwren> cost to whom?
[14:57] <snap-l> And the assinine way that teams go about patrolling their trademarks
[14:57] <snap-l> jrwren: Stadium money doesn't just come from rich philanthropists.
[14:57] <jrwren> that is cities faults.
[14:57] <ColonelPanic001> or more shewdly for me, having to hear people never shut the hell up about sports. heh.
[14:58] <jrwren> it SHOULd just come from rich philanthropists.
[14:58] <jrwren> but now we are talking politics and not sports :)
[14:58] <jrwren> you have 2 legs that work. don't want to hear it?  walk away.
[14:58] <wolfger> jrwren++
[14:58] <snap-l> And we're also seeing the corruption of colleges with the NCAA
[14:58] <ColonelPanic001> i maked teh joke
[14:58] <ColonelPanic001> im srry
[14:58] <snap-l> where money comes out of other programs
[14:59] <wolfger> snap-l: ???
[14:59] <wolfger> NCAA football is a cash cow
[14:59] <snap-l> precisely
[14:59] <snap-l> It's not about love of the game, it's about following the paycheck
[14:59] <ColonelPanic001> moo.
[14:59] <wolfger> the schools make obscene amounts of money off a successful team, they don't sink money into it from other programs
[15:00] <snap-l> Like the Olympics used to be about amateur atheletes
[15:00] <snap-l> That was until we sent folks like Michael Jordan to play
[15:00] <wolfger> It's (I believe, not sure) nearly as much revenue as pro sports, and they're not *allowed* to pay the players anything.
[15:00] <wolfger> What a scam that is!
[15:01] <jrwren> but $$$ doesn't come out of other programs.  it goes into other programs.
[15:01] <jrwren> unless you are ohio state :)
[15:01] <wolfger> snap-l: the olympics were about "amateurs" in the sense that other countries did have "pros" and we did.
[15:01] <wolfger> but they had pro-qualitiy athletes
[15:02] <snap-l> Right, the line got blurred. I get that
[15:02] <wolfger> the line was a scam to begin with
[15:02] <snap-l> My beef is that suddenly nobody cared to hide it
[15:02] <snap-l> I hate the Olympics anyway, so I'm biased.
[15:03] <wolfger> "if you want to be an olympian, you can't accept money". Big scam.
[15:03] <wolfger> I believe the olympics used to be a great idea.... back when they were first invented.
[15:04] <snap-l> The olympics, where everyone is a farm kid from Oaklahoma with a blind and deaf mother and father, two dyslexic siblings, and a cat on three legs
[15:04] <snap-l> but they had a dream.
[15:04] <wolfger> back in the days when a marathon was run out of necessity rather than for exercise or some cracked idea of "fun".
[15:05] <ColonelPanic001> I would like to see the three-legged-cat Olympics.
[15:05] <snap-l> Inspirational stories become much less inspirational when everyone has an inspirational story to tell
[15:06] <snap-l> And considering everyone is there by the grace of God and sponsorships, there's plenty to go around
[15:06] <_stink_> wonder what inspirational story they'd come up with for me
[15:06] <snap-l> so stop your yammering and show fucking curling already.
[15:06] <_stink_> "grew up kind of scrawny with kind of red hair"
[15:07] <jrwren> I have an inspirational story to tell.
[15:07] <jrwren> you don't have one?
[15:08] <snap-l> Craig grew up like most boys his age, awkward, funny looking, and a social outcast
[15:08] <jrwren> EXACTLY!
[15:08] <jrwren> ZOMg, i hated the insp story when teh curling match was coming up.
[15:08] <jrwren> esp when it was canada playing.
[15:09] <snap-l> It's the same witht he news and the "michigan connection"
[15:09] <wolfger> snap-l: your description of the olympics sounds earily like every single season of American Idol
[15:09] <snap-l> Channel 4 is great for finding one person who happens to have a relative living in MI
[15:10] <snap-l> Horriffic accident in Antartica. Here's the Michigan connection
[15:10] <ColonelPanic001> "the bolts in the airplane are from Flint"
[15:10] <brousch> eh, we were in southern canada, so we didn't have ice for 3 months out of the year. we'd spill a gallon of my dad's used motor oil out in da yard and slide my ma's pots as pans as we couldn't afford stones
[15:10] <wolfger> Osama bin Laden has been killed. We talk to his Michigan relatives
[15:10] <snap-l> wolfger: BINGO
[15:11] <snap-l> The man's dad had 52 children
[15:11] <ColonelPanic001> "The bullet was made with steel that was made at Great Lakes Steel"
[15:11] <snap-l> You're bound to find at least 3 of them in Dearborn, I'm sure
[15:12] <snap-l> The man was found with a 2 litre of Vernors, which used to be made in Michigan near the Beter Made Plant
[15:12] <ColonelPanic001> yes
[15:12] <wolfger> used to be?
[15:12] <wolfger> Vernor's isn't Michigan made anymore?
[15:12] <snap-l> wolfger: Hasn't been for a while now, iirc
[15:12] <ColonelPanic001> it's not even made with ginger anymore
[15:12] <wolfger> :-(
[15:12] <_stink_> call Channel 4
[15:13] <_stink_> they'll do a story on it
[15:13] <snap-l> The flagship Detroit bottling plant was shut down by United Brands in 1985, with the local rights to bottle Vernors granted to Pepsi-Cola.[5]
[15:13] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernors
[15:14] <snap-l> http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/brands/vernors/
[15:14]  * snap-l schedules grief counseling for wolfger 
[15:14] <Milyardo> awesome domain
[15:15] <Milyardo> drpeppersnapplegroup.com that is
[15:15] <snap-l> Milyardo: Yeah, just trips off of the tongue, doesn't it?
[15:17] <snap-l> OK, off to do something awesome. brb.
[15:21] <brousch> we don't need to know when you take potty breaks
[15:22] <ColonelPanic001> speak for yourself.
[15:23] <ColonelPanic001> I prefer frequent, detailed updated
[15:23] <ColonelPanic001> updates, rather
[15:23] <brousch> what are you, his doctor?
[15:23] <ColonelPanic001> I just like to be kept in the loop
[15:24] <wolfger> Faygo is still made here, at least
[15:25] <wolfger> actually going to a restaurant tonight that recently opened, that features food/drink from Michigan (primarily, not exclusively)
[15:25] <Milyardo> and Jone's I think
[15:25] <wolfger> I had no idea Jones was from MI
[15:26] <wolfger> http://www.freep.com/article/20110505/COL20/105050315/Twisted-Rooster-chain-launches-Chesterfield-Township?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p
[15:26] <Milyardo> Yeah all those black and white pics on the bottles are from different parts of MI
[15:26] <Milyardo> They come up here to U of M to take picutres all the time
[15:27] <wolfger> well, I was aware you could submit pics to Jones for their use... I just thought some Michigan photographer was a big contributor
[15:27] <Krondor> pepsi is made here in a flint bottling plant (last I checked)
[15:29] <Milyardo> Krondor: You live in Flint?
[15:29] <Krondor> Aww my first askubuntu question drifts off into obscurity with no votes
[15:30] <Krondor> Milyardo:  nope royal oak
[15:31] <Milyardo> No idea where that is
[15:31] <Krondor> Near detroit southern oakland county
[15:34] <jrwren> wtf is twisted rooster?
[15:34] <jrwren> never heard of royal oak?  ha!
[15:36] <ColonelPanic001> Twisted Rooster == Screwed Up Cock
[15:41] <_stink_> or Crooked Cock.
[15:42] <wolfger> jrwren: you could... I don't know.... click the link and find out what it is.
[15:43] <wolfger> or infer from my previous statement
[15:43] <wolfger> well, ok, 2 statements previous
[15:44] <wolfger> as the immediate predecessor was a reply to something somebody else said
[15:44] <jrwren> terrible article title.
[15:45] <jrwren> because I don't like "chain" erstaurants.
[15:45] <jrwren> but 2 location != chain.
[15:45] <jrwren> so this twisted rooster is not a chain.
[15:45] <wolfger> ok. What is the jrwren definition of chain?
[15:45] <jrwren> oh sorry, 4 locations.
[15:46] <jrwren> lmgtfy define:chain
[15:46] <jrwren> meh, ok... its definitely a chain.
[15:46] <jrwren> owned by Wendy's parent company
[15:47] <wolfger> so it's a chain if it's owned by a corporation?
[15:47] <wolfger> that's a sad definition
[15:48] <wolfger> also wondering where you see there are 4 locations. I only derived 3 from the article.
[16:03] <snap-l> Wait, someone doesn't know where Royal Oak is?
[16:04] <snap-l> Man, talk about the AA buffer. :)
[16:07] <jrwren> no.
[16:07] <wolfger> snap-l: Lots of people don't know where Royal Oak is
[16:07] <jrwren> any restaurant that isn't a corporation is just stupid.
[16:07] <jrwren> you'd be hard pressed to find one.
[16:07] <jrwren> wolfger: twisted-cork.com
[16:07] <wolfger> Outside of Michigan, people often think of the entire state in terms of "Detroit" and "the upper peninsula"
[16:07] <jrwren> or whatever it is.
[16:07] <jrwren> twisted-rooster.com
[16:08] <snap-l> I mean people in Michigan
[16:08] <snap-l> and the UP doesn't count because that's like a different country. ;)
[16:09] <wolfger> Yeah. It's like Canada.
[16:09] <jrwren> AA people don't know royal oak because a lot of them aren't from MI. they are from outside MI and relocated to Umich.
[16:09] <Milyardo> In my defense I've only lived here for about 3 years now -.-
[16:09] <wolfger> Oh, wait, that's just a different state, not a different country
[16:09] <Milyardo> ^ This
[16:10] <wolfger> I like the Twisted Rooster motto, "Commit to the Mitt"
[16:32] <jjesse> there is at least 1 twisted rooster here in grand rapids
[16:33] <jjesse> reading scroll
[17:02] <snap-l> Just had fun changing network cards.
[17:09] <snap-l> Dropped a 3Com card from 1997 into this box
[17:09] <snap-l> and it appears to kick the ever-loving crap out of the realtek card in here
[17:12] <wolfger> changing network cards is "fun"?
[17:15] <snap-l> not really
[17:15] <snap-l> since network manager is a real PITA
[17:17] <snap-l> I mean, it does what it thinks is the right thing
[17:17] <snap-l> but it wasn't what I did
[17:17] <snap-l> s/did/wanted/
[17:32] <wolfger> so...
[17:32] <wolfger> who's going to go see Thor this weekend and let me know if it sucks or not?
[17:33] <binbrain> I haven't seen it, it probably sucks
[17:33] <wolfger> LOL
[17:33] <wolfger> insightful and informative
[17:34] <wolfger> that's slashdot quality commentary there...
[17:34] <wolfger> :-)
[17:35] <wolfger> Kenneth Brannagh at the helm gives me hope
[17:35] <wolfger> but then again, he's done crap before, too
[17:36] <snap-l> I heard it was good from Jacob (from the Ubuntu Ohio group)
[17:36] <binbrain> has hollywood done any good action movies in the last I don't know how long?
[17:37] <binbrain> I guess the batmans have been good
[17:37] <wolfger> sure, for somebody's definition of "good"
[17:38] <wolfger> I'm trying to think of the last good one I saw... drawing a blank
[17:38] <wolfger> Suckerpunch was good... but it wasn't *really* and action flick
[17:38] <wolfger> s/and/an/
[17:39] <binbrain> I'm a bit jaded, I just watched 2012 recently
[17:39] <binbrain> both of them
[17:39] <binbrain> awful
[17:39] <wolfger> Does Avatar count as an action flick? That was pretty awesome. But not for reasons of action.... :-p
[17:39] <binbrain> sure, Avatar counts I guess
[17:39] <binbrain> that was decent
[17:40] <wolfger> it was awesome from the world-building standpoint, and 3D standpoint
[17:40] <wolfger> it suffers some in 2D
[17:40] <wolfger> but I love the details and the plants and animals created for that movie
[17:43] <ColonelPanic001> Dnaces With Smurfs wasn't much other than action.
[17:44] <binbrain> Titanic 2 is out on netflix "Irony looms for the passengers of a luxury cruise liner Titanic II"
[17:44] <ColonelPanic001> I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SHIP
[17:44] <snap-l> They better have William Shatner in Titanic II
[17:44] <snap-l> he was brilliant in Airplane 2
[17:44] <ColonelPanic001> actually, it'd be awesome if the movie was just a couple enjoying the cruise, and nothing unusual happened
[17:44] <snap-l> AKA another sequel that didn't need to be made
[17:49] <Krondroid> Binbrain does inception count as action?
[17:52] <binbrain> Krondroid: good one, that counts
[18:03] <brousch> titanic 2 involves near-future submersible pleasure cruises to undersea tourist spots like the titanic. but what mutant beast lurks within its hull?
[18:06] <ColonelPanic001> hah
[18:09] <Blazeix> Megashark and giant octopus
[18:09] <brousch> the titanic was intentionally sunk by the illuminati to reinforce the rotting door over cthulu's tomb
[18:09] <ColonelPanic001> heh
[18:09] <brousch> admit it. you'd watch the movie
[18:10]  * brousch adds this to his story ideas
[18:14] <wolfger> Krondroid++
[18:15] <brousch> oh my. let's get rick_h__ fired up today http://www.mutuallyhuman.com/blog/2011/05/06/vim-is-the-worst-text-editor-ever-sometimes
[18:15] <brousch> "Forcing an editor on another person is just cruel, and it makes you look like a jerk. So don't do it."
[18:16] <wolfger> Iron Man 2 was another good action flick
[18:16] <wolfger> not sure how recent it was
[18:16] <wolfger> my sense of time is shot all to hell
[18:17] <brousch> ironman++
[18:17] <wolfger> Iron Man 1 & 2 gives me hope that The Avengers won't suck
[18:17] <rick_h__> brousch: meh, that's link bait is all that is
[18:17] <wolfger> that and the fact Joss Whedon is helming it
[18:17] <rick_h__> "Oh vim is greatest ever but don't make others use it"
[18:18] <brousch> my wife loves smallville, which is full of angsty whiner heroes. ironman was an awesome change
[18:23] <snap-l> Don't make anyone have to use an editor
[18:23] <snap-l> Let them come to it naturally.
[18:24] <rick_h__> I should write a counter argument
[18:24] <rick_h__> "You know, if your pair partner is partially knowledgeable on vim basics
[18:25] <rick_h__> an advanced user during pairing can help improve their skill and thus productivity beyond the pair programming session"
[18:26] <brousch> rick_h__: the blog is from a ruby shop in GR, just to get you more fired up
[18:26] <rick_h__> heh, well no wonder they use textmate
[18:26] <brousch> great guys, nonetheless
[18:39] <jrwren>  Kenneth Brannagh  is in Thor?
[19:23] <Milyardo> rick_h__: You should ask if that blog post was written in vim
[19:54] <snap-l> OK, I'll shut up about Eclipse pHase in a bit, but this is awesome: https://twitter.com/#!/EclipsePhase/statuses/66572549714214912
[19:54] <snap-l> "Posted official torrent for the EP Core Rulebook 3rd printing. Help seed! http://mgnet.me/.eclipsephase"
[19:56] <brousch> snap-l: weren't you just cursing eclipse earlier today?
[19:56] <snap-l> Wrong Eclipse
[20:41] <brousch> snap-l: so this Eclipse thing you love is the tweenybopper werewolf/leachman thing?
[20:48] <jrwren> rofl.
[21:43] <Milyardo> WHat's Eclipse Phase?
[21:44] <snap-l> It's a pen and paper RPG that is Creative Commons licensed.
[21:45] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/rAW/
[21:59] <brousch> ah, so an RPG based on the tweenybopper leachman series?
[23:57] <brousch> poor greg-g