| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: anything else on the adgenda? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| linuxman410 | anyone here | 00:18 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger do you like unity | 00:18 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 do you like unity | 00:19 |
| cyberanger | linuxman410: not really | 00:20 |
| linuxman410 | vychune do u like unity | 00:27 |
| vychune | havent tried it yet | 00:28 |
| vychune | brb going to store | 00:28 |
| === vychune is now known as vychune_away | ||
| chris4585 | linuxman410, its okay, but personally I like gnoem3 way more | 01:08 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 have u ever used a acer aspire one | 01:09 |
| chris4585 | nope | 01:09 |
| chris4585 | lol http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/309/a/4/ubuntu_vs_gnome_by_jeypeyy-d327m94.png | 01:26 |
| pace_t_zulu | we ready? | 01:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger chris4585 linuxman410 vychune_away orias Juzzy elijah-mbp Dan9186 Svpernova09 Worldspice_Will xTEMPLARx ping | 01:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | ouch | 01:36 |
| === infocop411 is now known as cyberanger2 | ||
| cyberanger2 | Quiet | 01:44 |
| cyberanger2 | Suprisingly quiet, wow | 01:47 |
| cyberanger2 | Happy Cinco de Mayo | 01:47 |
| cyberanger2 | Everyone | 01:47 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger did you clone yourself one and two | 01:50 |
| cyberanger2 | No, just split personality | 01:53 |
| vychune_away | lol | 02:10 |
| === vychune_away is now known as vychune | ||
| vychune | pace_t_zulu meeting? | 02:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | so... | 02:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | yea | 02:13 |
| vychune | where is everyone? | 02:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger cyberanger2 we do have a meeting right now.... right? | 02:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger, you mind starting it? | 02:14 |
| linuxman410 | is there going to be a meeting | 02:23 |
| chris4585 | linuxman410, I think its already over | 02:23 |
| linuxman410 | ajorned | 02:24 |
| linuxman410 | chris4585 what did we discuss i missed it | 02:24 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: you didn't miss anything | 02:25 |
| pace_t_zulu | there has been no meeting | 02:25 |
| linuxman410 | i sit here an hour for nothing | 02:26 |
| linuxman410 | well at least i can say i showed up | 02:26 |
| linuxman410 | well thats all folks | 02:27 |
| vychune | first one i make is a bust | 02:29 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger still here | 02:31 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger2 still here | 02:32 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu u still here | 02:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | yo | 02:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | i'll go ahead | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | #startmeeting | 02:34 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 20:34. The chair is pace_t_zulu. | 02:34 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | o/ | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | vychune: | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | chris4585: | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger2: | 02:34 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu you use a netbook or laptop and what kind i am looking to get another one | 02:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: laptop | 02:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: macbook pr | 02:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | s/pr/pro/ | 02:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | [topic] Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) | 02:36 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) | 02:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | doesn't live boot on my macbook pro ... i should file a bug | 02:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | but it doesn't support wireless on the mbp either | 02:37 |
| linuxman410 | i do not like the unity part requires too much hardware | 02:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: but classic is right there | 02:37 |
| linuxman410 | yes for this version | 02:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: and 11.10 should have a 2d unity version | 02:37 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu 11.04 has a 2d version it sucks | 02:38 |
| linuxman410 | my main concern is ubuntu is forgetting what linux is all about saving old hardware ubuntu has lost sight of that | 02:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: i'm not sure ubuntu is about saving old hardware | 02:40 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: xubuntu is about saving old hardware | 02:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | seems to be how it works | 02:41 |
| linuxman410 | xubuntu requirments are getting high too now debian is remembering that old machine you have in the corner | 02:42 |
| linuxman410 | debian had the drivers for my intel 845ge video | 02:43 |
| linuxman410 | ubuntu stop supporting that in 10.04 | 02:43 |
| linuxman410 | i even have fedora 14 running on old 800mhz laptop | 02:45 |
| linuxman410 | ubuntu is not going to offer classic in 11.10 | 02:48 |
| linuxman410 | so it is upgrade your hardware or quit using ubuntu | 02:48 |
| vychune | i havent upgraded so i have no comments on natty | 02:51 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: couldn't we build the i845g drivers for maverick and natting in a ppa? | 02:51 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu i tried computer locked up and would not boot | 02:52 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: sorry to hear that | 02:52 |
| vychune | damn | 02:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: i suppose debian6 is running on an older kernel than natty | 02:53 |
| vychune | why would that be? | 02:53 |
| pace_t_zulu | vychune: debian 6 came out before natty | 02:54 |
| vychune | oh | 02:54 |
| pace_t_zulu | and its got a longer release cycle | 02:54 |
| vychune | what is thier release cycle | 02:54 |
| pace_t_zulu | so it's possible it has an older kernel than maverick | 02:54 |
| vychune | dang | 02:54 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu debian 6 runs great on my machine and also runs without flash it uses html5 | 02:55 |
| * vychune goes to debian website to download | 02:55 | |
| pace_t_zulu | well debian is on version 6 ... initial release was in 93 | 02:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | vychune: ubuntu pulls from debian's unstable branch for regular releases and testing branch for LTS releases | 02:56 |
| orias | o/ | 02:56 |
| vychune | oh ok cool | 02:56 |
| vychune | thee hew is | 02:56 |
| vychune | *there he is | 02:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | we have 4 now | 02:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | anyone here from memphis? | 02:57 |
| vychune | me | 02:57 |
| vychune | orias | 02:57 |
| orias | o/ | 02:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | vychune: apparently jfenn is planning a meetup | 02:57 |
| vychune | jfenn? | 02:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | jfenn2199 that is | 02:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | so cyberanger said this afternoon | 02:58 |
| vychune | oh ok | 02:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | but i don't have any more info | 02:59 |
| vychune | thats ok | 02:59 |
| wrst | did i miss the meeting? :) | 03:02 |
| vychune | smh | 03:02 |
| vychune | no | 03:02 |
| linuxman410 | you did not miss nothing wrst | 03:04 |
| linuxman410 | wrst where have u been | 03:05 |
| wrst | ha ha been pretty busy today linuxman410 how are you doing? | 03:05 |
| linuxman410 | doing ok and you | 03:06 |
| linuxman410 | just talking about natty 7 | 03:07 |
| vychune | natty 7? | 03:07 |
| linuxman410 | yeah they upgrade os you have to upgrade hardware | 03:07 |
| linuxman410 | 2.6.32-5 this is kernel version in debian 6 | 03:11 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu there is kernel version of debian 6 | 03:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | natty 7? | 03:13 |
| vychune | thats what i said | 03:14 |
| linuxman410 | yeah like windows 7 more hardware needed to run | 03:14 |
| vychune | lol | 03:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: are you saying debian 6 can emulate flash with html5? | 03:14 |
| linuxman410 | yes indeed | 03:14 |
| linuxman410 | and it works good | 03:15 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: i know youtube has vids working with html5 i tried it out with chrome some time ago | 03:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i am aware of that | 03:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | but emulating flash in html5 ... i am skeptical | 03:15 |
| wrst | yeah pace_t_zulu just wondering about ... yeah you took the words out of my mouth pace_t_zulu | 03:16 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu all the video i tried worked without flash | 03:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: on youtube? | 03:16 |
| linuxman410 | on youtube | 03:16 |
| vychune | coolest | 03:17 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: youtube is a rare provider of html5 video | 03:17 |
| wrst | yeah try some flash thats not on youtube linuxman410 i think you may not be so happy | 03:17 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu debian 6 is a truly free kernel no extras | 03:17 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: i am aware of that | 03:17 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: many debian users point that out | 03:18 |
| linuxman410 | pace_t_zulu fedora has same version kernel as natty and the intel 845ge video works with fedora | 03:19 |
| vychune | gonna head out guys i have a job now so i cant stay up ike i want to now | 03:21 |
| pace_t_zulu | linuxman410: have you filed a bug? | 03:21 |
| * wrst is not overly concerned with stallman freedom | 03:21 | |
| * pace_t_zulu isn't either | 03:22 | |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: have you tried unity out with dual monitors? | 03:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: no, why? | 03:22 |
| vychune | o\ | 03:22 |
| wrst | well the blasted top bar goes across the second monitor which i kinda understand with the global menus but that's being a pain for me at the moment | 03:23 |
| linuxman410 | lubuntu is supporting 10.04 till 2015 | 03:28 |
| linuxman410 | is meeting still going on | 03:30 |
| linuxman410 | wrst u still here | 03:30 |
| wrst | just for a minute linuxman410 | 03:31 |
| wrst | what's up? | 03:31 |
| linuxman410 | is the meeting over | 03:31 |
| wrst | think so | 03:31 |
| linuxman410 | ok | 03:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | #endmeeting | 03:52 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 21:52. | 03:52 |
| orias | rawr | 04:07 |
| orias | 45minutes later I find badgerports and then can apt-get install keepass2 >_< | 04:08 |
| === Juzzy-p is now known as Juzzy | ||
| wrst | happy friday everyone | 15:54 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: I didn't have any more info either, jfenn2199 was working on the details last I heard | 15:58 |
| orias | :) | 17:07 |
| pace_t_zulu | missed cyberanger... | 17:37 |
| * wrst is growing increasingly unhappy with 11.04 | 18:41 | |
| Dan9186 | expound please | 18:51 |
| wrst | well just feels really incomplete to me Dan9186, unity seems to me to get more in the way, granted I'm more in the gnome 3 camp | 18:55 |
| wrst | but Dan9186 i'm running ubuntu server 11.04 and its good, but the desktop is i think just awful | 18:56 |
| wrst | well awful is an overstatement | 18:56 |
| vychune | isnt there a guy at worldspice that comes in here somwtimes? | 19:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | vychune: yea... worldspice_will | 20:06 |
| vychune | right | 20:06 |
| vychune | if you see him login, could you point him my way? | 20:06 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: would you say it's more unity that you are displeased with that anything else about the 11.04? or are there other problems | 20:07 |
| wrst | unity and my wireless pace_t_zulu :) | 20:08 |
| wrst | but mainly unity its just a pain | 20:08 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i'd expect unity to advance by leaps and bound between now and 11.10 .... and then get some real polish in 12.04 LTS | 20:09 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: canonical was ambitious with unity ... | 20:10 |
| wrst | yeah and pace_t_zulu i admit to being in the gnome 3 camp also | 20:10 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: don't forget Mac OS X was a dog with 10.0 ... but people could see it was going in the right direction .... same for kde 4.x | 20:10 |
| wrst | but, gnome 3 is a very usable and stable now | 20:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i understand why you would be right now... but i get the impression that unity will progress faster than gnome3 ... | 20:11 |
| wrst | it may pace_t_zulu, but i certainly would not suggest the "average" user think about moving to it now | 20:11 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: if the gnome team set out to develop unity when canonical did - we wouldn't see it till 2014 | 20:11 |
| wrst | i do look forward to seeing unity on top of gnome3 | 20:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i'm still rocking gnome2 | 20:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: but that's more because i spend most of my ubuntu (desktop) time in virtual machines | 20:12 |
| wrst | i really like the way that gnome shell works, its very intuitive i think | 20:12 |
| vychune | just saw this on facebook: | 20:30 |
| vychune | Jim McDermott | 20:31 |
| vychune | With all the different flavors of Ubuntu out there, could they not come up with a separate distro for newbies? You could call it Nubuntu or Duh-buntu. | 20:31 |
| vychune | you ok there pace_t_zulu? | 20:50 |
| pace_t_zulu | yea | 20:52 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: when i look at unity it sorta looks "old" compared to gnome shell or kde i think | 20:55 |
| chris4585 | KDE is so pretty, but the problem I have with it is its not all that simple | 21:22 |
| chris4585 | the problem with unity is that its not all that well done, accessing apps is a bit of a task | 21:22 |
| chris4585 | the problems with gnome3 are the simplest of things that can be enabled but no easy option dialog to do that | 21:23 |
| wrst | chris4585: used the gnome-tweak-tool? | 21:44 |
| === vychune is now known as vychune_unclelou | ||
| === vychune_unclelou is now known as vychune | ||
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