[07:31] <tjaalton> bryceh: push libxi git ;)
[07:32] <tjaalton> http://www.geek.com/articles/games/game-developer-david-braben-creates-a-usb-stick-pc-for-25-2011055/
[07:33] <tjaalton> probably has powervr gfx on it
[07:35] <bryceh> tjaalton, meh, didn't know we maintain it in git
[07:35] <tjaalton> bryceh: yep, all the libs are there too
[07:35] <tjaalton> where we have patches, like for multitouch etc
[07:36] <tjaalton> and.. <drumroll> klingon!
[07:37] <tjaalton> actually i thought you just forgot to push the branch
[07:42] <bryceh> pushed
[07:42] <tjaalton> :)
[14:53] <ScottK> Is there a way to disable all the new multi-touch bling?  The touchpad on my new laptop is have some issues and I'd like to see if it's related to that first.
[15:04] <tjaalton> ScottK: well, you could build the driver without the multitouch patch(es, dunno if there are many)
[15:04] <ScottK> Is there a list of packages?
[15:05] <tjaalton> xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[15:05] <ScottK> Thanks.  I'll have a look.
[15:06] <tjaalton> shouldn't matter if the libs still have the feature
[15:06] <tjaalton> though, check the x log first to see it's not usin evdev
[15:06] <tjaalton> using
[15:15] <ScottK> I do see evdev in the X log.
[15:16] <ScottK> But it seems to reference other things, not the touchpad (like power button).
[15:16] <ScottK> Is there a wiki page or something I can read about to help me figure it out.
[15:17] <tjaalton> what do you need to figure out?-)
[15:18] <tjaalton> just see if it has synapc
[15:18] <tjaalton> duh
[15:18] <tjaalton> if the log mentions synaptics
[15:32] <ScottK> OK
[15:33] <ScottK> tjaalton: It doesn't.
[15:33] <ScottK> So then is there a pointer to how I fix that?
[15:42] <tjaalton> ScottK: does xinput list tell it's an alps device?
[15:44] <ScottK> ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
[15:44] <tjaalton> yeah
[15:44] <ScottK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/604115/
[15:44] <tjaalton> so it's a kernel bug then
[15:44] <ScottK> Sigh.
[15:45] <ScottK> So do I need to force it to synaptics in an xorg.conf or is it just wait for a kernel fix?
[15:47] <Sarvatt> ScottK: is this the e6320? no its not the multi-touch bling, this thing is a generic PS2 mouse with some hacks in the kernel to emulate a scroll wheel and tap to click
[15:47] <Sarvatt> ScottK: whats wrong with it?
[15:48] <ScottK> It's Latitude E something.
[15:48] <Sarvatt> these things majorly suck, I wish dell would spend the extra 20 cents on a synaptics :)
[15:48] <tjaalton> we carry a patch to enable some alps devices as synaptics-capable, but it's not enough in this case
[15:48] <ScottK> Sigh.
[15:48] <Sarvatt> ScottK: whats wrong though?
[15:48] <ScottK> Sarvatt: Mostly the touchpad works fine, but then every now and then I can't move the pointer or it will only go exactly vertical or horizontal.
[15:49] <ScottK> Sometimes it seems to jump too.
[15:49] <tjaalton> man, irc from a bus through the countryside... multifail
[15:49] <ScottK> tjaalton: Thanks for your dedication.
[15:50] <tjaalton> ScottK: heh, np
[15:50] <Sarvatt> ScottK: do you use the scroll support? I can build you a kernel real quick without that patch to see if the situation is any better if you want
[15:51] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I haven't enabled anything special.  The only thing I use is the scroll when I drag up and down the right side of the touchpad (so I guess that's a yes)
[15:51] <ScottK> If so, losing that would be worse than the problems I'm having.
[15:51] <Sarvatt> ah, thats not an upstream patch and is a distro specific hack we're adding, if you use a mainline kernel you dont even get that at this point :(
[15:51] <Sarvatt> hmm
[15:52] <Sarvatt> we have a large number of these things and i haven't seen any other reports of that problem oddly
[15:52] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: so i've misunderstood the patch ?-)
[15:53] <ScottK> Sarvatt: I'm using the distro kernel.
[15:53] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: maybe I have? with an upstream kernel it's reported as a generic ps2 mouse and you dont get scroll support, we've got a patch making it show up as a ImPS/2
[15:54] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: no, it's me, i thought it would add proper support for those, but if the hw doesn't support the synaptics features.. ?
[15:59] <Sarvatt> ScottK: rmmod psmouse/modprobe psmouse when it happens very likely will work around it, thats no fix but might help make it usable in the meantime
[15:59] <ScottK> Sarvatt: tHANKS.
[15:59] <ScottK> Thanks even
[15:59] <ScottK> (keyboard works, that was my fault)
[20:51] <Sarvatt> ScottK: do you have any external mice plugged in?
[20:51] <ScottK> Sarvatt: No.
[20:52] <Sarvatt> ScottK: I seem to have just hit the same problem on my E6420, but couldn't get any info out of it because rmmod psmouse took down the machine
[20:53] <Sarvatt> only thing different was the 2.6.39-1 kernel from oneiric and I had a bluetooth mouse going
[20:54] <ScottK> I'm also getting X going to 100% CPU and I can move the mouse, but no keyboard/mouse clicks work.
[20:54] <Sarvatt> cursor was stuck on the left edge of the screen
[20:54] <ScottK> Yeah.  That's it.
[20:55] <ScottK> Interestingly it only happens when LibreOffice is open.
[20:55] <Sarvatt> this thing has been fine for 16 hours a day for the past month straight, odd that it just started now
[20:55] <ScottK> New xserver out of proposed to updates yesterday.
[20:56] <ScottK> Fortunately troubleshooting the laptop isn't on my critical path to getting on an airplane tomorrow, so I'll worry about it in a week + a few days.
[20:56] <Sarvatt> hmm its not on natty-changes
[20:57] <Sarvatt> yeah I kind of hope I can reproduce it on the plane to give me something to do tomorrow :)
[21:04] <ScottK> Sarvatt: If you want something to work on, leave a complex LO spreadsheet open while you work on other things and then see if X hangs up on you after awhile (it's been between a few minutes and a few hours for me)
[21:04] <ScottK> Of course this may be another fun 'just in KDE' bug too.
[21:04] <ScottK> No idea.
[21:04] <ScottK> Turning compositing off doesn't help.
[21:18] <Sarvatt> ScottK: will do, do you notice it coinciding with the screensaver kicking in by any chance?
[21:19] <ScottK> No.
[21:19] <ScottK> It's happened while I was away from the computer and also while I we working on the spreadsheet in question.
[21:20] <ScottK> It did happen once while I was trying to save a document and that's pure KDE there, so maybe it's the KDE addon for LO.
[23:46] <Sarvatt> off to UDS!