[07:31] bryceh: push libxi git ;) [07:32] http://www.geek.com/articles/games/game-developer-david-braben-creates-a-usb-stick-pc-for-25-2011055/ [07:33] probably has powervr gfx on it [07:35] tjaalton, meh, didn't know we maintain it in git [07:35] bryceh: yep, all the libs are there too [07:35] where we have patches, like for multitouch etc [07:36] and.. klingon! [07:37] actually i thought you just forgot to push the branch [07:42] pushed [07:42] :) [14:53] Is there a way to disable all the new multi-touch bling? The touchpad on my new laptop is have some issues and I'd like to see if it's related to that first. [15:04] ScottK: well, you could build the driver without the multitouch patch(es, dunno if there are many) [15:04] Is there a list of packages? [15:05] xserver-xorg-input-synaptics [15:05] Thanks. I'll have a look. [15:06] shouldn't matter if the libs still have the feature [15:06] though, check the x log first to see it's not usin evdev [15:06] using [15:15] I do see evdev in the X log. [15:16] But it seems to reference other things, not the touchpad (like power button). [15:16] Is there a wiki page or something I can read about to help me figure it out. [15:17] what do you need to figure out?-) [15:18] just see if it has synapc [15:18] duh [15:18] if the log mentions synaptics [15:32] OK [15:33] tjaalton: It doesn't. [15:33] So then is there a pointer to how I fix that? [15:42] ScottK: does xinput list tell it's an alps device? [15:44] ImPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint [15:44] yeah [15:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/604115/ [15:44] so it's a kernel bug then [15:44] Sigh. [15:45] So do I need to force it to synaptics in an xorg.conf or is it just wait for a kernel fix? [15:47] ScottK: is this the e6320? no its not the multi-touch bling, this thing is a generic PS2 mouse with some hacks in the kernel to emulate a scroll wheel and tap to click [15:47] ScottK: whats wrong with it? [15:48] It's Latitude E something. [15:48] these things majorly suck, I wish dell would spend the extra 20 cents on a synaptics :) [15:48] we carry a patch to enable some alps devices as synaptics-capable, but it's not enough in this case [15:48] Sigh. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:48] ScottK: whats wrong though? [15:48] Sarvatt: Mostly the touchpad works fine, but then every now and then I can't move the pointer or it will only go exactly vertical or horizontal. [15:49] Sometimes it seems to jump too. [15:49] man, irc from a bus through the countryside... multifail [15:49] tjaalton: Thanks for your dedication. [15:50] ScottK: heh, np [15:50] ScottK: do you use the scroll support? I can build you a kernel real quick without that patch to see if the situation is any better if you want [15:51] Sarvatt: I haven't enabled anything special. The only thing I use is the scroll when I drag up and down the right side of the touchpad (so I guess that's a yes) [15:51] If so, losing that would be worse than the problems I'm having. [15:51] ah, thats not an upstream patch and is a distro specific hack we're adding, if you use a mainline kernel you dont even get that at this point :( [15:51] hmm [15:52] we have a large number of these things and i haven't seen any other reports of that problem oddly [15:52] Sarvatt: so i've misunderstood the patch ?-) [15:53] Sarvatt: I'm using the distro kernel. [15:53] tjaalton: maybe I have? with an upstream kernel it's reported as a generic ps2 mouse and you dont get scroll support, we've got a patch making it show up as a ImPS/2 [15:54] Sarvatt: no, it's me, i thought it would add proper support for those, but if the hw doesn't support the synaptics features.. ? [15:59] ScottK: rmmod psmouse/modprobe psmouse when it happens very likely will work around it, thats no fix but might help make it usable in the meantime [15:59] Sarvatt: tHANKS. [15:59] Thanks even [15:59] (keyboard works, that was my fault) [20:51] ScottK: do you have any external mice plugged in? [20:51] Sarvatt: No. [20:52] ScottK: I seem to have just hit the same problem on my E6420, but couldn't get any info out of it because rmmod psmouse took down the machine [20:53] only thing different was the 2.6.39-1 kernel from oneiric and I had a bluetooth mouse going [20:54] I'm also getting X going to 100% CPU and I can move the mouse, but no keyboard/mouse clicks work. [20:54] cursor was stuck on the left edge of the screen [20:54] Yeah. That's it. [20:55] Interestingly it only happens when LibreOffice is open. [20:55] this thing has been fine for 16 hours a day for the past month straight, odd that it just started now [20:55] New xserver out of proposed to updates yesterday. [20:56] Fortunately troubleshooting the laptop isn't on my critical path to getting on an airplane tomorrow, so I'll worry about it in a week + a few days. [20:56] hmm its not on natty-changes [20:57] yeah I kind of hope I can reproduce it on the plane to give me something to do tomorrow :) [21:04] Sarvatt: If you want something to work on, leave a complex LO spreadsheet open while you work on other things and then see if X hangs up on you after awhile (it's been between a few minutes and a few hours for me) [21:04] Of course this may be another fun 'just in KDE' bug too. [21:04] No idea. [21:04] Turning compositing off doesn't help. [21:18] ScottK: will do, do you notice it coinciding with the screensaver kicking in by any chance? [21:19] No. [21:19] It's happened while I was away from the computer and also while I we working on the spreadsheet in question. [21:20] It did happen once while I was trying to save a document and that's pure KDE there, so maybe it's the KDE addon for LO. [23:46] off to UDS!