[00:39] <AuroraBorealis> is anyone here this time? third time is the charm? =/
[00:40] <bob2> best to ask'n'idle
[00:40] <bob2> (or try the list)
[00:40] <AuroraBorealis> ive been doing that for the past 3 days haha
[00:49] <bignose> AuroraBorealis: such a long wait would motivate me to join the mailing list and ask there.
[00:50] <AuroraBorealis> it seems like such a stupid problem to begin with i dunno if any mailing list would help me
[00:50] <AuroraBorealis> the program (bzr explorer) works but it just hangs on 'starting'
[00:51] <AuroraBorealis> but i may try that. i hate windows :<
[01:41] <IbIro> Hey
[14:36]  * jelmer waves
[14:44]  * bialix waves back
[14:48] <bialix> vila: ^-D
[14:48] <bialix> vila: :-D
[14:48] <vila> bialix: Isn't it nice when people just ping you for a smile :D
[14:49] <bialix> I'm reading your mail
[14:49] <vila> bialix: by the way, I'm about to announce 2.4b2 (I'm very late for that already), any news about the windows installers ?
[14:50] <bialix> no news from Gary unfortunately :-(
[14:50] <bialix> I've sent him a mail, but have no response
[14:50] <vila> ok, thanks for the feedback anyway
[14:50] <bialix> I'll try to hack existing 2.4b1 installer and make something like 2.4b2. but only tomorrow or on monday
[14:51] <bialix> btw, this monday is big holiday: Victory day
[14:51] <bialix> and 1 year passed since we met at uds
[14:52] <vila> bialix: Happy birthday !
[14:52] <bialix> ?
[14:52] <bialix> I'm puzzled
[14:52] <vila> bialix: 1 year since we met physically ;)
[14:52] <bialix> yea
[14:53] <bialix> sorry for the bottle
[14:53] <vila> hehe
[14:54] <bialix> vila: I'm going to add FEATURES dictionary to qbzr. As the way to get other code (e.g. bzr-explorer) to know that some features exists in the installed version of qbzr
[14:54] <bialix> do you think this can be interested for bzr?
[14:54] <bialix> if so I'll send my thoughts to list, or we just can talk here
[14:55] <bialix> and side joke: Marius has shown me very good band, they have nice song about PPA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjCsBK55X9Y :-)
[14:55] <vila> bialix: as a way to formalize getattr(module, 'function/method', None) ?
[14:56] <bialix> vila: sort of
[14:56] <bialix> some methods get new arguments and this can be important
[14:57] <vila> PPA, nice music...
[14:57] <bialix> so, inspecting FEATURES dictionary external code can see whether required feature present (new code, new arguments, etc) and work accordingly
[14:57] <bialix> Tamacun is very nice too
[14:58] <vila> I'm +-0 there,
[14:58] <vila> it seems we tried many variants without really achieving the desired result,
[14:59] <bialix> well, version number does not work if new feature has landed in the middle of the cycle
[14:59] <vila> well, I can live with that
[14:59] <bialix> there was discussion about versioning API, but it'' become hell very soon, IMO
[15:00] <bialix> okay, then I won't worry to spam the list
[15:01] <vila> bialix: on the contrary, my remark was more to tell you I don't feel like the good public for this discussion, but it's still an open subject worth discussing
[15:01] <bialix> ok, I see
[15:02] <bialix> I'll try to dogfood it inside qbzr for some time, and if I'll have some godd result then will present to the bzr MKL
[15:02] <bialix> ML
[15:03] <vila> sounds like a good plan
[15:32] <bialix> vila: I've just realized that my features dict is like hard-coded config in qzbr. I'm not sure yet what it'll imply
[15:34] <vila> well, it better stays hard-coded no ? If only to avoid highly confusing errors if the code and an external config file become out-of-sync
[15:40] <bialix> yep, it's hard-coded. but it looks like a config
[15:44] <bialix> vila: http://groups.google.com/group/qbzr/browse_thread/thread/d26bcb73fb3c6b9 maybe this explanation will be better
[15:45] <vila> bialix: hehe, yeah, you get the idea, configs are just dicts :)
[15:45] <bialix> vila: :-)
[15:45] <vila> bialix: and... I'm pretty sure there are ways to make read-only dicts in python (so you'll have to worry a bit less about people breaking stuff there)
[15:47] <bialix> vila: I don't remember off hands, in the future I may change it to use special class
[15:53] <poolie> vila, hi
[15:53] <poolie> great mail :)
[15:54] <vila> glad you liked it, I was inspired yesterday evening but had to stop as V. was waiting ;)
[15:55] <vila> poolie: I think spiv found the right metrics there too so that was fun to write around them
[15:58] <poolie> :)
[16:02]  * bialix waves at poolie
[16:02] <poolie> hi there bialix
[16:03] <bialix> have you seen Budapest? I haven't been there, but my mother has, and she said it's nice  city
[16:03] <poolie> i have a little
[16:03] <poolie> i might go out for a walk later today
[16:03] <bialix> :-)
[16:03] <poolie> it's very green and pleasant now
[16:04] <poolie> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mbp_/5692151369/in/photostream
[16:04] <bialix> hope there's no snow ;-)
[16:09] <poolie> not exactly
[16:12] <bialix> vila: if you have 5 minutes, please update version number on bazaar.canonical.com
[16:13] <bialix> it's really should be automatic stuff
[16:13] <vila> bialix: rhaaaaa, thanks for the heads-up
[16:16] <vila> bialix: fixed
[16:16] <bialix> :-)
[16:16] <vila> bialix: as in: fixed in source and pushed, the site will be updated ... by a cron job but I don't remember the frequency
[16:17]  * bialix nods
[16:17] <vila> poolie: woooow, now that's some nice place...
[16:43] <poolie> vila,  that's not actually where i'm staying ;)
[16:44] <vila> hehe, yeah, I figured ;) But still, nice stones
[17:14]  * jelmer waves
[17:15] <BlindWolf8> Hello all
[17:16] <BlindWolf8> I am having an issue with Bazaar 2.3.1
[17:16] <BlindWolf8> Can anyone here help me with it?
[17:17] <jelmer> hi BlindWolf8
[17:17] <jelmer> BlindWolf8: Please ask your question, if there's somebody who knows what the problem is they can answer
[17:17] <BlindWolf8> Hi!
[17:17] <BlindWolf8> OH great!
[17:18] <BlindWolf8> I am in the middle of something, so it's important that I get an answer quickly
[17:18] <BlindWolf8> I have a server which is Linux, it's running Bazaar 2.3.1
[17:18] <BlindWolf8> and so are all my clients
[17:18] <BlindWolf8> When I commit a file that is around 37 MB or so, bazar doesn't commit the file...it stops with an error message
[17:19] <BlindWolf8> The mesage is "unexpected end of message"
[17:20] <BlindWolf8> I'm using the bzr+ssh protocol
[17:20] <BlindWolf8> everyone has bound branches
[17:20] <jelmer> it's reproducible oin all clients?
[17:21] <BlindWolf8> i have reproduced the issue on my computer as well as another client
[17:24] <BlindWolf8> Any help is appreciated
[17:25] <BlindWolf8> I've tried changing timeouts, etc. on sshd on the server, but no luck
[17:25] <BlindWolf8> I am able to commit the file localy
[17:25] <BlindWolf8> and it's one particular file
[17:25] <BlindWolf8> *not one
[17:25] <BlindWolf8> any file that seems to be over or close to that size causes said issue
[17:29] <jelmer> please file
[17:30] <jelmer> please file a bug about this - I don't have any immediate ideas but other developers might, there usually aren't a lot of people around in the weekend though
[17:30] <jelmer> we're certainly aware of problems with big files - but that's usually files that are a couple of hundred megabytes, not 37Mb
[17:38] <BlindWolf8> Thanks!
[17:43] <cbz> jelmer: what version of bzr-svn do you want me to retry the svn import with?
[17:44] <cbz> jelmer: i've got bzr 2.3.1 installed and am using the default there
[17:45] <cbz> jelmer: looks like 1.0.5
[17:53] <jelmer> cbz: bzr-svn trunk
[17:54] <jelmer> cbz: Ah, you're using the Mac installer? I think that uses a bzr-svn snapshot from a while ago
[17:56] <cbz> windows installer
[17:56] <cbz> okay, will retry
[18:08] <ScottK> jelmer: Will you be at UDS this time?
[18:08] <jelmer> ScottK: Yep, poolie and I are both attending
[18:09] <ScottK> Great.  I will see you there then.
[18:09] <jelmer> cool :)
[18:09] <ScottK> Watch out for this new guy you got on rotation from the disto team.
[18:09] <ScottK> ;-)
[18:20] <jelmer> :)
[19:15] <rsingh> hello everyone
[19:16] <rsingh> question: when i push my code to the server, now i have various statements like <<<<< TREE in some of my docs, and i'm wondering how to remove them, as I'm new to bzr and the push/pull functionality
[19:21] <rsingh> anyone?
[19:28] <jelmer> hi rsingh
[19:28] <jelmer> rsingh: those<<< markers are the indication of conflicts during pull/update/merge
[19:29] <jelmer> it happens because the person you pulled from had a different change to the same lines as you did
[19:31] <jelmer> time to catch my train, back later
[19:39] <rsingh> belated thanks, jelmer