[00:00] <gomiboy> foormea: maybe you'll have to set some additional permissions for group 2468... if the different user is always you, on one machine you could set the id to match the other, but it's not necessary
[00:01] <foormea> i think having 1000:2468 on the system that is previously 1000:1000 and changing group rights on the hard drive might be more convenient, what do you think?
[00:02] <foormea> i never had this problem before, it's a silly issue to have ^^
[00:04] <Magnusson> is anyone runninc conky?
[00:06] <gomiboy> foormea: yes, changing gid to 2468 will ensure that new files are always accessible by the other user... if you don't have strage umask (default is 0002)
[00:15] <Aerosonic> Best music player for Kubuntu?
[00:16] <Aerosonic> How do I set up Amarok to play files on Click, I don't want it to add to queue
[00:21] <surunveri> hi... I've another harddrive on which I would liek to install Windows XP but I only have an .img file for installer. is there anyway to install that to the 2nd hard drive without burning it to a disc?
[00:21] <surunveri> :D
[00:22] <gomiboy> .img like iso or like image from a partition?
[00:22] <surunveri> i think like iso :D
[00:24] <gomiboy> surunveri: i'm doig that right now... it's a pain... if your machine has a cd, just burn it (mine doesn't..)
[00:24] <surunveri> :D
[00:38] <surunveri> hmm
[00:39] <surunveri> alright im trying to burn this with K3b but it asks for an empty medium despite that I've an empty CD in the drive
[00:39] <Walzmyn> is the CD large enough for the image?
[00:39] <surunveri> yeah
[00:40] <surunveri> the .iso file is 558mb the CD says 700mb
[00:41] <surunveri> and k3b says it's 581mb
[00:41] <surunveri> but I can select aburn medium
[00:41] <Walzmyn> m'kay. I spent an hour trying to figure that out one time only to realize I was trying to put a DVD image on a CD
[00:41] <surunveri> alright...
[00:41] <surunveri> :DD
[00:42] <surunveri> well i could be doing something equally foolish but seriously im tired of trying to figure out what's wrong. do i've to read another manual to use this program? do i've to fix it somehow before it does what it's supposed to? Welcome to linux world
[00:42] <surunveri> :DD
[00:45] <surunveri> hmm
[00:45] <surunveri> it could be that for some reason the drive doesnt recognize the CD
[00:45] <surunveri> i've to test another disc just incase it's the drive hat's broken
[00:45] <surunveri> it's been a while since i last usedit
[00:46] <surunveri> well it did succesfully read this audio cd so i geuss it's working
[00:48] <surunveri> so.. it's pretty much narrowed down to
[00:48] <surunveri> A) me not being able to use K3b correctly B) cd somehow broken/not compatible with drive C) and K3b just not working like a sane person would expect it to work
[00:49] <surunveri> since I just unwrapped the CD it's probably not B)
[00:49] <surunveri> and it's down to A) and C) so.. anyone familiar with this k3b thing?
[00:49] <surunveri> :D
[00:51] <surunveri> hmm
[00:52] <surunveri> k3b or the drive doesnt recognize the CD as a proper medium... anyone?
[00:53] <tertl3> surunveri: I vote that its C
[00:55] <James147> surunveri: are you sure you are trying to burn a cd and not a dvd (desipte the size)? try manually selecting burn a cd..
[00:56] <surunveri> yes I'm and K3b just recognized the CD as a medium. a popup suddenly appeared. I dont think i did anything though :D
[00:57] <surunveri> hmm i tried to start burning the disc and it says medium or burner does not support burning at 4x speed? seriously? :D
[00:59] <rats__> surunveri: when you insert the cd does the Notifcation and Jobs recognize it
[00:59] <surunveri> hmm it says switching to 2x and now it started burningat 3.4x
[01:00] <surunveri> oh well.. if it works i dont care. but considering how smoothly it has gone so far i aint got my hopes up :DD
[01:16] <Aerosonic> How do I set up Amarok to play files on click, instead of adding to queue
[01:18] <Aerosonic> How do I set up Amarok to play files on click, instead of adding to queue?
[01:19] <Aerosonic> Is there ANYONE who does tech support around here?
[01:19] <James147> Aerosonic: yes, just no one knows the answer to your question
[01:20] <James147> Aerosonic: and I am not sure its possible.. try asking in #amarok
[01:20] <Aerosonic> Ty, i didn't know there was a channel like that
[01:20] <Aerosonic> Okay, another question then: What is the best audio player?
[01:20] <James147> !best | Aerosonic
[01:20] <James147> Aerosonic: Though I use and prefer amarok
[01:21] <Aerosonic> Let me rephrase that: Which is the most convenient player for Kubuntu that has nice interface and plays files on click?
[01:23] <James147> Aerosonic: cannot really answer that :) I would ask on #amarok first and see if it can be configured to do what you want... if not...
[01:23] <James147> !mp3
[01:23] <James147> :p
[01:23] <James147> !amarok
[01:23] <Aerosonic> Great.
[01:23] <James147> ^^ theres a list you can try
[01:24] <James147> Aerosonic: I think juk can do it... its quite a basic musicplayer...
[01:24] <James147> never really liked it myself though
[01:24] <Aerosonic> Crappy gui
[01:25] <Aerosonic> If there was Winamp for linux
[01:25] <Aerosonic> I want Winamp for linux. With the whole Milkdrop and plugins
[01:26] <gomiboy> Aerosonic: audacious resembles winamp
[01:26] <Aerosonic> Doesn't resemble Big Bento and doesn't have Milkdrop
[01:30]  * gomiboy doesn't know what those are and shuts up
[01:30] <Aerosonic> Which player from all of the above has the most sophisticated audio visualization?
[01:30] <Aerosonic> Because Amarok's visuals are about as good as WMP
[01:37] <darthanubis> well use winamp then
[01:37] <gomiboy> Aerosonic: try this, right click on a mp3 file -> properties -> wrench-like icon -> amarok -> edit -> application -> change the command to: amarok --append --play
[01:38] <Aerosonic> gomiboy, thank you
[01:38] <Aerosonic> So much, it works
[01:39] <Aerosonic> Let me post that in #amarok as a solution
[01:40] <gizmobay> I upgraded to 11.04. I couldn't use the nvidia current drivers as I couldn't boot. I moved down to 173 but I'm getting this weird empty bar at the top of the screen. http://imagebin.org/152102
[01:41] <gizmobay> Anyone know how to get rid of it?
[01:42] <kader> HI evry one
[02:23] <Xgates> hey guys
[02:24] <Xgates> I'm trying to install kubuntu for someone and I'm at a loss here, but the sata is not showing up and in the bios there is only a sata setting to enable/disable, nothing for changing to legacy
[02:24] <Xgates> I looked in dmesg and it shows sata but there are no errors
[02:24] <Xgates> is there still a rare occassion where sata driver support not working?
[02:40] <Xgates> lspci shows this as nvidia sata controller, anyone know anything about Nvidia support?
[02:40] <Xgates> anyone here?
[02:41] <Xgates_> hey guys
[02:41] <Xgates_> got a box with nvidia sata controllers and Kubuntu doesn't see the hard drive for install and the bios only has enable/disable,  nothing to change for legacy
[02:41] <Xgates_> anyone know anything about a lack of nvidia support to see sata drives to install?
[03:08] <tracehacker> hello world
[03:10] <tracehacker> helloo kaviti
[03:43] <mahesh> Hello all..
[03:43] <mahesh> I am not able to make my iPod classic work with amarok..
[03:43] <mahesh> can anybody please help me with this?
[04:10] <Keshl> mahesh: I don't think iPods work with anything except iTunes.
[04:10] <Keshl> mahesh: I could be wrong, it's been a while since I used Amarok, but a year or two ago I knew for a fact that nothing but iTunes could sanely manage an iPod using official Apple software.
[04:10] <mahesh> I have used iPod classic with rythmbox and banshee
[04:11] <Keshl> mahesh: Oh, then, it should work fine if you've got rythmbox on it over their default firmware. Wait for someone who knows more than me, sorry I can't help.
[04:45] <LINKSWORD2> Hello everybody... I'm having the worst day today.
[04:47] <LINKSWORD2> I can't seem to get anything to install, other than Kubuntu itself.
[04:50] <LINKSWORD2> I'm trying to use the included Mozilla Firefox installer, but I get a return error that says; "The package "firefox-kde-support" has not been found among your software sources. Therefore, it cannot be installed."
[05:11] <mole_> so netbook kde 4.6.2 fail
[05:12] <mole_> err
[05:12] <mole_> 11.04
[05:12] <cpatrick008> i was wondering when 4.6.3 will be updated to natty
[05:12] <mole_> probably not it's fault
[05:12] <mole_> might be kernel driver
[05:12] <mole_> or just kwin shittyness
[05:12] <FloodBotK1> mole_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <LINKSWORD2> I guess I should have mentioned that I'm running Kubuntu 11.04.
[05:21] <LINKSWORD2> Any help, if I may?
[05:24] <cpatrick008> i was wondering when 4.6.3 will be updated to natty
[05:29] <paul__> Trying to figrue out how to fix my broken boot splash using kubuntu 11.04
[05:30] <paul__> anyone here?
[05:30] <paul__> hello??
[05:30] <cpatrick008> i am here
[05:31] <paul__> are you experienced with kubuntu?
[05:32] <cpatrick008> somewhat
[06:02] <preecher> just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu--i cant get my mic configured--any advice (internal)-
[06:04] <cpatrick008> preecher: what mic do you have
[06:06] <preecher> cpatrick008 its internal--the kmixer doesnt even list as mic when i open themixer
[06:06] <cpatrick008> preecher: what laptop/desktop do you have
[06:06] <preecher> ibm thinkpaadt43
[06:09] <preecher> it was working in ubuntu 11.04 & also xubuntu 11.04
[06:09] <cpatrick008> preecher: in the mixer do you see mic or input options
[06:10] <preecher> playback devices/capture/playback streams----those are what i have listed
[06:13] <cpatrick008> preecher: there should be a options menu and you can add the input/mic from there
[06:14] <preecher> cpatrick008 looking now thx
[06:14] <cpatrick008> yw when you went to the capture tab it did not show the mic
[06:16] <preecher> nope it isnt there but im looking to see if i can add it
[06:16] <cpatrick008> ok
[06:18] <cpatrick008>  try settings, configure channels
[06:22] <cpatrick008> preecher: try settings, configure channels
[06:24] <preecher> i think im doin that now---it gives me like 6 diff mic things to select from so im clicking on "prefer" one at the time and checking to see if it worked and so far moving down to the next one
[06:24] <cpatrick008> preecher: ok
[06:29] <yoga> when I drag and drop a link from Firefox into Dolphin and save it as a link, but I cannot open it buy just click on it.
[06:35] <Who> guys i fixed my 5.1 surround sound problem , now is there any nice movie players for kubuntu that supports 5.1 ?
[07:02] <ybit> i'll post in here as well
[07:02] <ybit> hey guys, quick question, my laptop keeps sleeping after i close my lid, i don't need it to do this, how can i and others prevent this?
[07:51] <testttt> hi
[08:39] <Ademan> ugh, I think KPackageKit is hung while installing sun-java6-* because I need to agree to the EULA somehow, but can't
[08:41] <Ademan> is there a way to get the console that the  license agreement is in?
[08:42] <Graf_Westerholt> I would kill it and start it again in the console.
[09:00] <pnh_> hi, I'm getting some error while building kde-runtime and kdelibs in kubuntu 11.04. Can anyone please help me?
[09:03] <pnh_> This is what I'm getting :  ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in /home/pnh/kde/home/.master/share/apps;/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps
[09:16] <wpeter> hello,everyone.
[09:16] <pnh_> hello :)
[09:17] <wpeter> quit
[09:18] <pnh_> can someone please solve my problem?
[09:20] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, I am not an expert user.
[09:21] <Graf_Westerholt> I found this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/mandriva-linux/167361-error-cmake-modules-findkde4internal-cmake-not-found.html
[09:21] <Ademan> pnh_: sounds like you're missing some -dev packages?
[09:23] <pnh_> I pulled everything from git. I have complete  dev packages installed in my system. I could able to build attica and automoc without any problem.
[09:24] <pnh_> but i couldn't build kdelibs,kde-runtime,soprano,strigi etc..
[09:24] <pnh_> same error I'm getting for all these packages
[10:04] <Xgates> can anyone tell me, when you install Kubuntu can you pick it to install grub to the / partition, not the MBR?
[10:05] <Xgates> I already have a bootloader on the mbr I want to use for other OS I boot from...
[10:12] <valorie> !grub | Xgates
[10:12] <valorie> I hope that helps
[10:12]  * valorie goes to bed
[10:13] <Xgates> I know all about Grub and most things grub realated, I simply want to know if during the installation you have a choice as to where you can install Grub?
[10:14] <Xgates> It use to be in older versions of Ubuntu you could pick the location of where grub was to be installed, now it seems like it's all just automated to install to the MBR and you don't even have a choice to pick if you want a booloader or not...
[10:14] <Xgates> or else I'm missing this, because I don't see any options anywhere anymore...
[10:16] <Xgates> ubottu: I don't think you read my question hehe
[10:16] <Xgates> valorie: you real?
[10:17] <Xgates> I don't need to know about Grub, just need the question answered please... THANKS
[10:17] <Xgates> if you can pick and choose where to install it during the installation is all...
[10:18] <Xgates> Well I got to run but if anyone can answer my question at the Ubuntu forum I'd greatly appreciate it;
[10:19] <Xgates> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751844
[10:19] <Xgates> THANKS
[10:26] <nurdede> gencler
[10:26] <nurdede> aranızda türk var mı
[10:43] <Arecibo> Hello, could somebody help me with a live usb installation problem? When I select "Install Kubuntu", I see a blinking cursor for a while, then I get a black screen and nothing happens.
[10:49] <Arecibo> Hello, could somebody help me with a live usb installation problem? When I select "Install Kubuntu", I see a blinking cursor for a while, then I get a black screen and nothing happens.
[10:57] <Arecibo> Is there anyone who can provide assistance?
[10:59] <James147> Arecibo: try running the cd check... check the md5sum on the iso... try reimmaging the usb
[11:00] <James147> all else fails you can try the alternitive image
[11:01] <Guest74186> guys i know this sounds almost stupid but i was working on a presentation for work for like four hours and i went out to grab a bite my stupid sister closed the open document in libre office is there any way to get it back
[11:02] <Guest74186> :(
[11:02] <James147> Guest74186: did she save it? did YOU save it?
[11:03] <Guest74186> lol nope i wasn't done with it yet, she did'nt either :(
[11:04] <James147> Guest74186: then no... take from this experience: always... ALWAYS... save your work
[11:04] <James147> it dosnt have to be finished for you to save it...
[11:06] <Arecibo> James147: I have verified the md5sum: it's fine
[11:06] <Guest74186> hmm lol i guess i better start on it again, anyways thanks for the tip. this is going to be a long  day :(
[11:06] <James147> Guest74186: next time save the document regulerly
[11:07] <Graf_Westerholt> And make backups.
[11:07] <James147> Guest74186: even if you save it once and the program crashes you have a change at recovering changes... but you need to save it...
[11:07] <Guest74186> i'll definitely keep that in mind, trust me on that. btw any chance of it being in some temp folder :(
[11:08] <James147> Guest74186: might still be in ram.... but it will probally take more then 4 hours to figure out how to get it back and even then its not likly you will revocer everything
[11:10] <Guest74186> oh man i worked so hard on it, anyways i guess i should quit whining and get back now. thanks anyway james, bbye now
[11:10] <Graf_Westerholt> Why is someone not saving a four hours work?
[11:10] <Arecibo> Dunno.
[11:10] <Graf_Westerholt> Insane.
[11:11] <Arecibo> By the way, what is the reason behind the fact that Kubuntu doesn't allow shortcuts on the desktop like GNOME?
[11:11] <James147> Arecibo: what do you mean by that?
[11:11] <James147> Arecibo: desktop icons? you can.
[11:12] <James147> Arecibo: either us the folder view widget... or set the activity type to the folder view
[11:12] <Arecibo> James147: It doesn't allow me to place a shortcut on the Kubuntu desktop, I can only make shortcuts in the Desktop Folder.
[11:12] <Arecibo> James147: Not that I really mind, I was just wondering why
[11:12] <James147> Arecibo: it because the desktop is a container for widgets on the default kde desktop... not a file structure
[11:13] <James147> Arecibo: the Folder view widget is a widget that is basicaly a view of a folder (like what the desktop use to be) this approch is far more felxable as it dosnt restrict you to one folder to view but as many as you can fit on the screen :0
[11:14] <James147> Arecibo: you ca always use the Folder view activity to revert to the old style behaviour :) but there is little point unless you dont like change
[11:15] <Arecibo> James147: I don't mind trying something new, I was just wondering. I was very anti Linux once because it wasn't user friendly in my opinion. I really disliked Ubuntu 8.10
[11:15] <Arecibo> James147: After a while I gave it another shot, and I installed Ubuntu 10.10
[11:15] <James147> Arecibo: you can also place icon widgets to any file on the default desktop...
[11:16] <Arecibo> James147: I must say things have changed. Then I found out that I can use both GNOME and KDE whenever I want to, so I installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:16] <Arecibo> James147: I must say that I like the K Desktop Environment better than GNOME for some reason
[11:16] <James147> Arecibo: :) I find this approch more natural... that is if you dont depend on the desktop just being a nother folder :)
[11:17] <Arecibo> James147: True. When I found out about the desktop cube thingy, I was constantly scrolling up and down switching workspaces for sh*ts n giggles. xD
[11:17] <surunveri> hi
[11:17] <James147> Arecibo: I like it better because its far more felxable and is  capable of things that gnome just cannot do
[11:17] <surunveri> im having trouble trying to burn this disc with k3b
[11:17] <surunveri> :D
[11:18] <Arecibo> James147: Too bad that when I try to activate the Explosion effect, I get a message that says Explosion couldn't be activated
[11:18] <sony_> btw is there some kind of autosave function in open office and libreoffice
[11:18] <James147> sony_: I think so... but it will require you to save the document at least once so it know where to auto save to
[11:20] <Arecibo> What's you favourite letter in the alphabet?
[11:21] <sony_> x probably
[11:21] <Arecibo> And you, James147?
[11:21] <sony_> i like how it's used in the word xerox
[11:21] <sony_> :P
[11:23] <Arecibo> I bet that James147's favourite letter is K ;P
[11:23] <sony_> what makes you so that?
[11:23] <James147> Arecibo: wouldnt say K... but I dont really know :) never thorught about it
[11:23] <Graf_Westerholt> re
[11:23] <sony_> lol we should really move to kubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <James147> sony_: yeah :)
[11:24] <Arecibo> Probably
[11:24] <Arecibo> If only my sound problem with PulseAudio was somehow solved, then I wouldn't have to use Windows anymore
[11:24] <Arecibo> I like it how Kubuntu boots within 3 seconds and is actually ready for use when you see the desktop
[11:25] <Arecibo> As opposed to Windows where you have to wait 5 minutes before all **** in the tray is loaded.
[11:25] <surunveri> If I could somehow install winXP then I wouldnt have to use kubuntu anymore. I like the way how everything is compatible with windows and doesnt require reading a pile of manuals to use 8D
[11:26] <Arecibo> Well, it's true that Ubuntu/Kubuntu still requires a lot of messing around before you finally get it to work
[11:27] <surunveri> yeah i mean seriously.. kubuntu/ubuntu is free. maybe a bit more secure.. possibly more versatile for programming or stuff like that which I do not know of
[11:27] <shadeslayer> untrue .... it works out of the box for me
[11:27] <surunveri> but for teh average user.. jsut that 90% of all software is made for windows
[11:28] <surunveri> is like a huge setback
[11:28] <surunveri> :D
[11:28] <shadeslayer> that i agree with
[11:28] <surunveri> but then again.. setting up XP so taht it's secure.. is something even i can do
[11:28] <James147> surunveri: but 99% of software the average user wont use
[11:28] <surunveri> :D
[11:28] <Arecibo> Well shadeslayer there are two kinds of users: Those who are fortuante enough to have a working installation right out of the box, and those who have these annoying problems with their webcam/sound/microphone/graphics
[11:29] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[11:29] <surunveri> tbh i've used kubuntu for 1 year and
[11:29] <James147> surunveri: and kubuntu comes out of the box with more of what a user would use... unlike windows where you need to go out and buy more software just to get basic useage out of it
[11:29] <Graf_Westerholt> What would happen if a user has never seen Windows, worked a year with Kubuntu and now have to work with Windows. What would he say about Windows?
[11:29] <surunveri> yeah like.. what?
[11:29] <surunveri> :D
[11:29] <Arecibo> James147: All software is free. Trust me. Yarr harr and a bottle of rum! ;D
[11:29] <shadeslayer> Graf_Westerholt: i'd really like to find out
[11:30] <Graf_Westerholt> Me too
[11:30] <James147> Arecibo: but windows still dosnt come with basic functonalty... like a word processor
[11:30] <Graf_Westerholt> Most people know Windows, they know how to work with it and know programs.
[11:30] <shadeslayer> btw anyone using KDE PIM 4.5.94 from experimental?
[11:30] <surunveri> openoffice works on windows too :D
[11:30] <Arecibo> James147: True. Anyway, I've booted from the usb again with the alternate install, and it still doesn't work :(
[11:30] <surunveri> plus it's actually easier to install on windows if you dont have it ready on linux
[11:30] <James147> surunveri: but my point is that it dosnt come with windows...
[11:31] <surunveri> yeah.. so what
[11:31] <surunveri> it's not what OS is about
[11:31] <surunveri> OS is just there so you can use the computer.. not a self-purpose :D
[11:31] <Graf_Westerholt> When I have to use Windows I hate the install routines, the reboots and KDE :)
[11:31] <Graf_Westerholt> *miss KDE
[11:31] <Graf_Westerholt> :)
[11:31] <surunveri> htat it causes you troubel is much more grave than not having everything ready :D
[11:32] <Arecibo> James147: Help one of Microsoft's enslaved drones escape from its prison cell with Windows and escort him to the planet Kubuntu by helping him with a failing live installer >.<
[11:32] <James147> surunveri: really? "Kapckagekit: search libreoffice > install > apply > wait" vs "Open internet exlopere ... search google for libreoffice > find download link on the site > wait for downloads > run the installer > click next about 10 times untill you ahve answered all questions > let windows know "Yes you really really really do want to install this peice of software" > wait for it to install"
[11:33] <surunveri> yeah really
[11:33] <James147> ^^ O yeah.. then some times reboot at the end :)
[11:33] <James147> surunveri: how else do you install on windows?
[11:34] <surunveri> it's easier because to do that on windows you dont need to know anything
[11:34] <surunveri> exactly as you said.. google, download, install. and pretty much works with the same way.. and if u dont have it in your repositories whatever it is you're trying to install
[11:34] <surunveri> you're going to have to figure things out
[11:35] <surunveri> i mean.. everything else works pretty much the same way
[11:35] <surunveri> meanwhile when you do that on kubuntu
[11:35] <Arecibo> Both the Ubuntu/Kubuntu and Windows way of installing things has its pro's and cons.
[11:35] <James147> surunveri: for the average user the repo has everything they need to use
[11:35] <surunveri> really?
[11:35] <surunveri> are you sure about that?
[11:35] <Arecibo> Well
[11:35] <Arecibo> One thing that annoyed me
[11:35] <Arecibo> I wanted to install the simple compiz thingy
[11:36] <sony_> simple compiz config manager?
[11:36] <James147> Arecibo: compiz simple?
[11:36] <Arecibo> Yep, and it basically said "There are missing dependencies but I won't bother installing them"
[11:36] <sony_> :p
[11:37] <James147> Arecibo: you know what the dependiencies are?
[11:37] <James147> that are missing?
[11:37] <Arecibo> Ehm, no I don't know. But that's not the issue right now
[11:37] <Arecibo> I still have problems with my sound on my desktop
[11:37] <Graf_Westerholt> Why is KPackageKit installing OpenOffice as update?
[11:37] <Arecibo> Either I have sound through my speakers only and my headset mic works (no sound through headset) or my speakers and headphones work but my headset mic doesn't work...
[11:38] <Arecibo> alsa-base.conf: options snd-hda-intel model=auto (= Only sound through speakers, headphones do not work, mic OK) options snd-hda-intel model=generic (= Sound through speakers and headphones at will, headset mic doesn't work)
[11:39] <Arecibo> I still haven't been able to fix that problem.
[11:39] <James147> Arecibo: try setting it as the model for your sound card
[11:39] <Arecibo> VIA VT2020
[11:40] <surunveri> anyway it seems burning this windows installer on this disc doesnt seem to wrk
[11:40] <Arecibo> Onboard chip for the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula mobo
[11:40] <surunveri> i tried that last night too but.. there was some issues
[11:40] <surunveri> :D
[11:40] <James147> Arecibo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:40] <surunveri> idk what's the problem :D
[11:40] <Arecibo> James147: Tried it, didn't work (or maybe I did something wrong)
[11:40] <surunveri> how can check if it burned anything on the disc? :D
[11:41] <James147> oo... saya use auto :p
[11:42] <surunveri> hmm
[11:42] <surunveri> kubuntu is like ubuntu with a kick
[11:42] <surunveri> .. to the groin
[11:42] <surunveri> :DDDDD
[11:42] <Arecibo> Actually Kubuntu is like Ubuntu with a K
[11:42] <James147> surunveri: if you dont like it your not forced to use it
[11:42] <sony_> :D
[11:43] <Arecibo> surunveri, you don't have to use Kubuntu or Linux at all. If you do not want to spend time getting to know the OS and learning how to work with it, you're free to use Windows.
[11:43] <surunveri> sorry i was just making a joke
[11:43] <surunveri> :D
[11:44] <Arecibo> surunveri: But I'm trying to get some assistance here
[11:44] <surunveri> yeah i wish i were free to use windows
[11:44] <surunveri> me too
[11:44] <surunveri> In fact im trying to use k3b to burn a CD and I dont know if the problem is in the drive, CD, k3b, me, image file or any combination of them
[11:44] <surunveri> ..and its a windows installer
[11:44] <surunveri> so yeah
[11:45] <surunveri> :D
[11:45] <Arecibo> surunveri: 42
[11:48] <surunveri> so any idea.. i start writing the disc it says that 4x burn speed not supported then switches to 2x
[11:48] <Arecibo> I have no idea
[11:48] <surunveri> after the writing is seemingly done it check the written data which fails and says unable to read sector0
[11:49] <surunveri> it's an isofile made with ccd2iso from a clonecd image file
[11:49] <surunveri> im not sure if that's ok to do either
[11:49] <surunveri> in anycase the mb doesnt support bootinf from usb/flash so i've to boot from HD or CD.. but for some unknown reason this CD isnt working
[11:50] <surunveri> so.. im trapped.. with dear friend K.. it's a been a year so far.
[11:51] <surunveri> but to hmm say soemthing positive about kubuntu well.. yeah. it reboots quickly, and despit not setting up any security other than the DSL modem firewall at default settings i've not had any trouble
[11:51] <surunveri> :D
[11:51] <surunveri> but from the start it was like.. ok i wantd to use webbrowser.. had install java. wasnt that easy
[11:51] <surunveri> :D
[11:51] <surunveri> and so on
[11:52] <surunveri> i cant even reduce mouse sensitivity so that I could draw which is kind of sad
[11:55] <simion314> surunveri: about writing CD,try cleaning the drive
[11:56] <sony_> so guys just out of curosity how big is your resume i mean is it like a page long or maybe two
[12:09] <BeamMeUp67> Is there  know issue with Audio, specific Realtec alc892 intergrated on a gygabyte mobo? Just completed fresh install of Kubuntu 11.04 and have no Audio
[12:10] <BeamMeUp67> Did work perfect in Ubuntu 11.04 under unity & clasic any help apreciated :)
[12:12] <BeamMeUp67> Hi anyone able to help with audio problem..
[12:14] <smlk> hello, I am steffen - unfamiliar with irc.     I have problems with   kontact:   since several months,  the _birthdays_  from addressbook are not displayed in kalendar.  Any help?
[12:15] <smlk> akonadi running without problems,  birthday ressource is activated, showing "green"
[12:17] <Graf_Westerholt> smlk, I have the same problem but no solution.
[12:40] <surunveri> i cleaned the drive
[12:40] <surunveri> it could be broken, or it could be k3b
[12:40] <surunveri> i dont know
[12:40] <surunveri> is there anyway to do that install without having it on a cd?
[12:42] <fliegenderfrosch> surunveri: you can install from an usb stick
[12:42] <thosch97> or with the help if another pc via pxe
[12:44] <surunveri> yeah but Bios doesnt support booting from
[12:44] <surunveri> usb
[12:45] <thosch97> pxe?
[12:45] <surunveri> i've kubuntu on 1 hd and another empty hd.. and id like to install that windows to the other one
[12:45] <surunveri> pxe?
[12:45] <thosch97> network
[12:45] <thosch97> if your pc can run kubuntu, it should also be able to boot from network
[12:46] <surunveri> i dont know what that means or how it works :D
[12:47] <thosch97> it means your pc searches the network, and one pc says "hey guys wanna boot from me?" and so the bios asks you to do this and will boot the kubuntu-installer or even the whole system over network
[12:47] <thosch97> but i dont know how it works :D
[12:48] <thosch97> maybe ubuntu also got something like bfo (boot.fedoraproject.org)
[12:53] <BeamMeUp67> Hi, Any one available to help with Sound Issue on new Kubuntu install
[12:54] <oscoder> ?
[12:54] <surunveri> alright
[12:54] <surunveri> can someoen help me with installing DOS on the blank HD
[12:54] <surunveri> ?
[12:54] <surunveri> :D
[12:55] <thosch97> dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/dev/sda ;)
[12:55] <BeamMeUp67> Just did a fresh install of 11.04 and have no audio it is a intergrated Realtec  ALC892 on a Gigabyte MoBo
[12:55] <thosch97> maybe its very trivial: on my new install loudness was sett to 44%, i heard almost nothing
[12:56] <BeamMeUp67> I turned sound up 100%.. still no audio, it worked in Ubunto 11.04 with Unity and Clasic Gnome
[12:58] <BeamMeUp67> I did not like Unity.. Yetch.. So thought I would try KDE so fresh install, and no Audio.. need so I can listen to lecturers for Uni online
[13:01] <thosch97> BeamMeUp67: does mplayer on cli work?
[13:04] <BeamMeUp67> will try
[13:05] <BeamMeUp67> Have to install it first.. is fresh Have not installed much yet.. wanted to see what Kubuntu base was like
[13:09] <BeamMeUp67> no sound using mplayer through the li
[13:09] <BeamMeUp67> cli
[13:10] <surunveri> hmm
[13:12] <BeamMeUp67> brb might try reboot (again)
[13:13] <amichair> if I do an apt-get upgrade on one machine, is it possible to copy over the (potentially hundreds of MB) downloaded files to another pc, so that the upgrade process there won't have to re-download everything?
[13:21] <Who> umm guys should i use ATI Catalyst propriety drivers released recently on AMD site  or stick to OSS drivers
[13:22] <Who> i am asking this with OSS drivers i can't use openGL in graphics option (too many anomalies )
[13:22] <Tm_T> depends on your needs and hardware
[13:22] <Who> but with frgl drivers my laptop doesn't wake up etc
[13:23] <Who> but since these are the new drivers , is there a chance of them fixing waking up from sleep etc ?
[13:33] <Guest82658> heu guys
[13:34] <smlk> concerning birthdays in kontact: found solution on: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_and_AddressBook/de  (german)
[13:35] <smlk> had to add ressource Persönliche Kontakte, to restart kontact and to refresh the birthday-calendar
[14:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:12] <amichair> morning BluesKaj
[14:12] <amichair> if I do an apt-get upgrade on one machine, is it possible to copy over the (potentially hundreds of MB) downloaded files to another pc, so that the upgrade process there won't have to re-download everything?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hey amichair
[14:14] <BluesKaj> amichair, well, yo're still copying files tp the other pc whether it's from the repos or your pc...I ssh into my other linux pc to update and upgrde from the cli
[14:15] <amichair> true, but download from repo has different speed/bandwidth implications than over tha LAN...
[14:16] <amichair> I was wondering if it might be possible to copy over the apt cache or something like that, so that apt will already find a valid local copy and won't need to download anew
[14:17] <BluesKaj> amichair, I'm quite sure it's possible, but I've never really looked into it.
[14:18] <BluesKaj> rsync , I beleive
[14:18] <amichair> just copy the files? or are there lists or indices that need updating too?
[14:19] <amichair> on a different note, any idea how to get an update check to run? I should have seen a natty upgrade notification long ago, but there seem to be no auto update notifications running
[14:20] <amichair> (I'm not interested in running this specific update manually right now, but just knowing the update mechanism is working)
[14:27] <BluesKaj-den> my desktop froze on the media-server while transferring files to wife's pc for backup , so I'm here til the transfer is done :)
[14:28] <BluesKaj-den> methinks it's the flaky desktop theme I chose ..cuased probs before
[14:31] <BluesKaj-den> uhoh...gotta go BBL
[14:42] <surunveri> hi
[15:02] <BluesKaj-den> ok, where was I ? :)
[15:07] <surunveri> i've a blank HD
[15:07] <surunveri> i need to install DOS on it without using Floppy or CD or USB or anyo ther boot disk
[15:07] <surunveri> :D
[15:08] <surunveri> i've 2nd HD and that one has this kubuntu they're both connected.. it's thenoly machine i've to use
[15:12] <shane4kubuntu> wow, I think I have a serious problem, I keep running out of space, so pokeing around, I found an .xsessions-errors file that is 11GB in size!  any ideas?
[15:13] <shane4kubuntu> it is full of numbers like this:  C 193.60777,201.55312 193.77376,202.01391 194.32471,202.01391
[15:14] <shane4kubuntu> it is currently being written to.
[15:14] <shane4kubuntu> eeks, that is bad.
[15:16] <yardbird> I'm new to Kubuntu but have been using Ubuntu since 2005. Now you're making me want to go look for that file :)
[15:18] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: we are about in the same boat, I have used Ubuntu since Breezy (what year was that?)  and recently came over to Kubuntu, but I did a Ubuntu install, then swtiched over to KDE
[15:19] <shane4kubuntu> I kept getting low disk warning, for the past few days, and keep moving and deleting things, no I see it was this xsession-error file.
[15:19] <BluesKaj-den> shane4kubuntu, are you using file encryption for any of your data
[15:19] <sean_w> Is anyone else having problems with distorted sound effects in Skype?
[15:19] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: I do have one folder that is encrypted, but not currently mounted.
[15:20] <yardbird> my xsession-errors file os 50K, but not a lot of time stamping in it so I'm not sure where all of the errors may have happened.
[15:21] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: do those errors correspond with nvidia type numbers and drivers or something?
[15:21] <BluesKaj-den> shane4kubuntu, sorry , no idea
[15:21] <shane4kubuntu> ok, how can I track down where the errors are generated from?  so I can tackle this prob?
[15:23] <BluesKaj-den> dunno , never saw that before
[15:23] <surunveri> i need to install DOS on it without using Floppy or CD or USB or anyo ther boot disk.. any help? :d
[15:23] <hihihi100> can anyone help me with k9clopy? its a bug
[15:24] <BluesKaj-den> shane4kubuntu, check system monitor , see what's writing to disk that out of the ordinary
[15:24] <shane4kubuntu> hmm, this is a real problem, is anyone around that you know of that would know more about that stuff?
[15:25] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, I hate to tell you this but check with ppl at #windows
[15:25] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: what's your uptime?
[15:25] <surunveri> i tried
[15:25] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: probably about a day and half.
[15:25] <surunveri> in anycase i've to do this within kubuntu
[15:25] <surunveri> so..
[15:25] <shane4kubuntu> not even, just 19hours
[15:25] <BluesKaj-den> kind of difficult to install an OS without a source drive of some kind
[15:26] <surunveri> yeah
[15:26] <surunveri> that's the problem
[15:26] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: ok, I had a rogue compression process of 7z, let me see if it is still being written to.
[15:26] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: while I'm looking at mine and opening kate and stuff, it has grown from 50K to over 75K due to logging of a wide variety of errors
[15:26] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: xorg is using about 20% of cpu
[15:26] <hihihi100> k9copy help please
[15:27] <BluesKaj-den> hihihi100, what's happening with k9copy ...describe the symptoms/errors
[15:28] <BluesKaj-den> shane4kubuntu, that's not extraordinary , especially if you're running the power profile in the ondemand setting for the cpu
[15:29] <surunveri> how about making USB bootable without bios support?
[15:29] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: ok, tail -f .xsessions-errors is very interesting, seems as though nepomuk is the culprit
[15:29] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: in Dolphin, every time I hit "reload" my xsessions-error file gets bigger by about 2 or 3K
[15:29] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: I killed nepomuk, and the errors have come to a halt
[15:30] <yardbird> and yeah nepomuk is a lot of it
[15:30] <BluesKaj-den> yeah, nepomuk is problem for a lot of ppl'
[15:30] <hihihi100> I just downloaded k9copy_2.3.7-0.1_i386.deb and installed it, hoping to get rid of the blurry images I get when copying a double layered dvd (with 2.3.6). Now, 5 seconds after copying the dvd title, a segmentation fault appears: http://paste.ubuntu.com/604477/ I cannot install the debugging symbols either, as I was prompted to do so, but my machine could not find them
[15:30] <yardbird> what does nepomuk do?
[15:30] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: in konsole: tail -f ~/.xsessions-errors that is nice
[15:30] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: indexs hdd so you can search and find files.
[15:32] <BluesKaj-den> nepmuk is ok for ppl at work with lots of data files, but it's not much use for home pcs IMO
[15:32] <hihihi100> BluesKaj-den, I have ubuntu 11.04, I downloaded k9copy_2.3.7-0.1_i386.deb from http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/k/k9copy/, I believe is the one that best fits my installation, isnt it?
[15:32] <shane4kubuntu> hmm, I deleted that file, and then created an empty new one, will that have bad effects on my system?  I figure it is basically a text log file and that is it.
[15:32] <shane4kubuntu> BluesKaj-den: mine is a home/work machine and I often find myself trying to find a file.
[15:33] <shane4kubuntu> I guess I'll go back to google-desktop search
[15:33] <BluesKaj-den> hihihi100, if yo're running kubuntu , k9copy should be in the repos ...debian pkges don't always work
[15:34] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: look in your ~/.kde/apps and see if root owns your kate folder ... why would root own that folder in MY home directory when I own the folder it's in? :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj-den> hihihi100, deb packages built for kubuntu should work, but packages built for the debian OS are iffy sometimes
[15:34] <hihihi100> BluesKaj-den, mine is Ubuntu, k9 is in software sources, the outdated 2.3.6
[15:35] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: nope, I own them all in there,
[15:35] <BluesKaj-den> no matter it's not outdated if it works
[15:35] <yardbird> ok then I find that a bit odd
[15:36] <hihihi100> BluesKaj-den, will I get the same if I donwload k9copy_2.3.7-0.1_kfreebsd-i386.deb?
[15:36] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: I must say though I have messed around with my /home directory, and perhaps chown user:user /home/user  -R
[15:36] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: perhaps I have done that I mean
[15:36] <BluesKaj-den> hihihi100, I recommend packages in the repositories , i don't know about open source k9copy ,
[15:37] <shane4kubuntu> ok, ram usage dropped from 2+ gb down to 1.3gb,
[15:37] <yardbird> or perhaps the first time I started kate I used the sudo with it and it created that file with root as owner
[15:37] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: from stopping nepomuk?
[15:37] <shane4kubuntu> hihihi100: installing packages outside of the repos, is unsupported, and if you run into problems it will be hard to find help.
[15:37] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: yep
[15:37] <hihihi100> i see
[15:40] <surunveri> ok how can i create a FAT32 partition on Kubuntu and move installer files on that partition?
[15:44] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: I stopped nepomuk in the startup applications dialogue, but it looks like a nepomukstubservice is still running ... you killed that?
[15:45] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: I went to the System Settings, -> Desktop Search (in the second row) and disabled Nepomuk  there, in the Basic SEttings tab
[15:45] <shane4kubuntu> Learning your way around System Settings takes a bit, but you do get used to it, and I can appreciate it. :)
[15:46] <Walzmyn> surunveri: what are you trying to create a fat32 partition on?
[15:46] <yardbird> yeah I'm doing a lot of "discovering" switching from gnime to kde
[15:46] <surunveri> a blank HD
[15:46] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: in the search bar, you can type nepomuk and it will highlight it, that search bar is your friend, very nice.
[15:46] <Walzmyn> surunveri: use partitionmanager
[15:47] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: I'm with you there, I was tinkering with KDE 4 for about a month or so before 11.04 came out, and then still installed ubuntu, and switched over, I should have just install kubuntu.
[15:47] <Walzmyn> I keep having an issue where my panel moves itself off the top screen edge. Sometimes in the middle of the screen, sometimes to the bottom of the screen
[15:48] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: I'm kinda diggin' KDE ... ok nepomukservicestub is apparently being invoked every time I "reload" the file list i Dolphin and that xsession-errors file is still gowing
[15:49] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, you can create a fat32 partition with gparted livecd ..you must do it froma cd or usb drive , not allowed to partion while an OS located on that drive is being use
[15:49] <yardbird> Walzmyn: mine has done that too. opened at the top of the screen instead of the bottom near the panel
[15:49] <BluesKaj-den> used
[15:49] <Walzmyn> I've had that nepomuk thing disabled for 3 releases now, has it evolved into anything useful yet?
[15:49] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: once I disabled nepomuk, mine calmed down, course I deleted the .xsession-errors file, and may have recourse from that, not sure.
[15:50] <yardbird> Walzmyn: it apparently can create and inflate your xsession-errors file if you're looking for that functionality :)
[15:50] <Walzmyn> yardbird: I've looked for a bug listing, but not found one. I don't wanna start one, because everytime I do, it ends up being a dupe of 3 others
[15:50] <shane4kubuntu> Walzmyn: if you like a log file that is GB in size eating up your harddrive, perhaps it is usefull. :)
[15:50]  * Walzmyn humphs
[15:50] <Walzmyn> thing was hogging my RAM and CPU before I nixed it
[15:51] <protv_> Gstreamer backedn is not working well with skype, are there any other backends I can apt-get and select it from Phono Settings?
[15:51] <surunveri> BluesKaj-den:  no OS is located on that drive
[15:51] <surunveri> i've 2 HDs 1 is blank
[15:51] <surunveri> and im trying to make it bootable to run a windows installer woithout using floppy or CD or USB
[15:51] <surunveri> so basicly i just need to make a dos bootable partition and copy some filse on it while running kubuntu
[15:51] <Walzmyn> surunveri: did you try the partition manager?
[15:51] <yardbird> ps aux | grep nepomuk shows nepomuk server running
[15:52] <surunveri> im just trying it now and i made the partition.. i dont know how to make it bootable htough and i diont know how to mounti t so i can copy files on it
[15:52] <BluesKaj-den> so surunveri , you don't need to boot inti the partition just read/write files that you place there?
[15:53] <surunveri> well i need to do both
[15:53] <surunveri> it would help if i could at laest copy filse there first
[15:53] <surunveri> :D
[15:53] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: mine too, but I wouldn't worry about it, seems as though it is disabled even though ps reports it.
[15:54] <Walzmyn> yardbird: did you disable the nepomuk serarch module in the services configuration screen?
[15:54] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: is your xsession-errors file gone or did the system make a new one after you deleted it?
[15:54] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, can you see the drive in kmenu/computer/
[15:55] <yardbird> Walzmyn: yes I unchecked it and stopped the service in that services config screen
[15:55] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: it was gone after I deleted it, I did: echo "" > .xsession-errors to make a new, and has no activity.
[15:55] <Walzmyn> ok
[15:55] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: open Dolphin, scroll down to your .xsession-errors file and hit F5 to see if it grows :)
[15:56] <surunveri> no
[15:57] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: no, I think it was an error to remove that file,
[15:57] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: error on my part that is.
[15:58] <Walzmyn> anybody know where the config files for kmenu are kept?
[15:59] <surunveri> but i can see it now
[15:59] <surunveri> i managed to mount the partition
[16:00] <BluesKaj-den> !who | surunveri
[16:00] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: I'm going to log out and then back in again and see if that file resets
[16:01] <shane4kubuntu> me too. :)
[16:02] <BluesKaj-den> oops , konversation crashed
[16:02] <Walzmyn> hey, BluesKaj-den, what's with the -den addition to your name?
[16:04] <surunveri> anyway. I've 2 HDs. 1 has kubuntu, 2nd was blank. I made a FAT32 partition on 2nd HD, copied Windows Installer files on the FAT32 partition. I would need to make it DOS bootable, without using USB,CD,FLOPPY, instead, it has to be somehow possible using kubuntu.. any ideas?
[16:04] <surunveri> :D
[16:04] <BluesKaj-den> Walzmyn, so I can login from my den linuxbox and remain cloaked ...usually I'm on the media-server , but in this case I had freeze up while i was logged in on it , while transferring files , so I decide to let it finish so i logged in from this one
[16:04] <surunveri> the idea is that I'll have kubuntu on 1. HD and winXP on 2. HD
[16:04] <Walzmyn> BluesKaj-den: ah
[16:06] <Walzmyn> surunveri: i've always found the easiest thing to do was install winders first. that way it thinks is alone. and you can use the windows install media to do all your FAT formatting
[16:06] <BluesKaj-den> Walzmyn, this way I can login without conflict on both machines
[16:06]  * Walzmyn nods
[16:06] <yardbird> ok logged out and back in. The xsession-errors file gets started over. It still grows but it starts fresh when I log out and back in again
[16:07] <yardbird> gotta be a way to limit the size of that file
[16:09] <surunveri> that's not possible right now
[16:09] <surunveri> so it's not an option, Walzmyn
[16:10] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, why DOS  btw ?
[16:10] <surunveri> so I can run the installer
[16:10] <surunveri> for windows
[16:12] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, copy the dos boot to the 2nd HDD , then make it the boot drive in the BIOS , see if that works
[16:13] <simion314> yardbird: sorry if i am off topic, did you tried kdebugdialog ?
[16:14] <yardbird> simion314: not sure what you mean ... kinda new to KDE. Have used Gnome for 6 or 7 years though
[16:15] <BluesKaj-den> surunveri, and if you are addressing ppl , pls use their nick ...just addressing to ppl in general may not get you the answers you need
[16:16] <simion314> yardbird:  kdebugdialog <- run that command
[16:16] <BluesKaj-den> yardbird, Unity too buggy ?
[16:16] <simion314> there you can stop the apps(KDE) to log errors wsarnings etc
[16:17] <yardbird> BluesKaj-den: I really don't like the direction Unity is going. I've been fine with Gnome, but.... looking at changing
[16:18] <simion314> i like the idea of unity,but i think that could be implemented faster and better on top of KDE, like a unity theme/mode
[16:18] <BluesKaj-den> yardbird, understood ,there seem to be quite a few ppl disenchanted with ubuntu's direction these days
[16:19] <shane4kubuntu> ok, every time I try to log out, ro reboot, I get an policy kit authenticty error, and it hangs.  I manually have to reboot/poweroff via command line.
[16:19] <simion314> same happened with KDE4, change is hard
[16:19] <yardbird> simion314: all I can do from that dialogue is stop ALL debugging info... hehehe... not sure I want to do that.  There HAS to be a way to limit the file size of xsession-errors
[16:19] <BluesKaj-den> ok ,gotta reboot ...my alias setings don't seem to be working
[16:19] <shane4kubuntu> ^^  that is why I'm here in Kubuntu
[16:20] <simion314> yardbird: but if you don't want to debug any application crash you can stop- all of that
[16:20] <shane4kubuntu> I went through my distro-hopping days, but *buntu has me locked in, I'm too used to their way, but Unity, wasn't for me, and the more I use Kubuntu the more I'm liking it.
[16:21] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: I was having log out issues as well. Would hang at a black screen with mouse cursor. I selected Leave, then Log Out and let it count down to logout. Got me back to a logout screen.
[16:22] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: sorry to hear that, glad to know it isn't just my box. :)
[16:22] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: once I let it time out like that, it now logs out properly when I hit log out and then force it without letting it count down. Not sure why but it's fixed
[16:24] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: so you let it count down once, and now you don't have to wait?
[16:24] <yardbird> correct
[16:24] <murray_> hi, need help setting up a folder view on the panel, it shows the ntfs drive that i want to see but it shows hidden folders, how can i hide hidden folders?  man that even sounds weird :)
[16:24] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: ok, I will have to try that.
[16:24] <yardbird> I was jumping into a TTY to try and see why I was at a black screen. Finally I let it count down and log itself out and now it works
[16:24] <yardbird> no idea why
[16:25] <murray_> is that more of a #kde question
[16:25] <murray_> ?
[16:25] <shane4kubuntu> ok, I will have to try that next time, xsession-errors file seems to have a few errors, and seems to be working now
[16:27] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: apparently it is a bug:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/polkit-kde-1/+bug/728595
[16:28] <yardbird> yeah I've had messages like "We're sorry but Dolphin has closed unexpectedly" .... no it didn't... I hit the little "X" to CLOSE IT! :)
[16:29] <yardbird> murray_: If you do into that particular folder... you should be able to turn off "view hidden files"
[16:29] <yardbird> murray_: and I *think* i may then show that in the folder view from panel
[16:31] <surunveri> hi.. back
[16:31] <murray_> view hidden is already off in dolphin
[16:32] <murray_> i guess it regards windows hidden folders as not hidden?
[16:32] <murray_> recycle bin and system volume information are showing regardless
[16:32] <murray_> so, if ai can
[16:32] <murray_> sorry
[16:33] <murray_> if i cant get rid of that , i will have to get rid of the widget, (kids)
[16:33] <murray_> any ideas?
[16:35] <yardbird> murray_: not from me at this point. I have an NTFS partition as well but haven't got to working with it in kubuntu yet. Still ironing out trying to switch fro gnome to KDE :)
[16:35] <eagles0513875> hey guys anyone here running skype and a webcam with built in mic on 11.04
[16:36] <jussi> !anyone | eagles0513875
[16:38] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: that xsession-error file thing is all over the place. You can abuse the KDM startup app and just put rm  -rf ~/.xsession-errors   .. That will delete the file after you log in and it won't grow if it's not there. If you need to get information about errors you'd have to turn it back on
[16:38] <eagles0513875> my question is this i have a logitech quickcam with built in mic can someone provide pointers as to how to get the mic working on 11.04 with skype
[16:39] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: right, well, now that I know about it, I'm going to keep my eye on it, and monitor it, I don't mind if it is even a 100-500MB, but 11GB is excessive. :)
[16:39] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: it does get reset with reboot right?
[16:39] <simion314> yardbird: is not using kdebugdialog a better option? imaybe that can help
[16:39] <yardbird> shane4kubuntu: yes it resets size just by logging out and back in. No need to reboot
[16:40] <BluesKaj-den> which skype version eagles0513875, and i think you need pulseaudio for the mic ...most serious skype users on linux use static skype
[16:40] <shane4kubuntu> yardbird: right, I will keep my eye on it, I ofter run for 5-7 days between reboots.
[16:40] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj-den: im using the one from the canonical partner repo
[16:40] <yardbird> simion314: kdebugdialogue would turn off all logging I think.
[16:40] <simion314> shane4kubuntu: maybe you can make it readonly
[16:42] <simion314> yardbird: the thing is that by default is turned off in 11.04,befoare i had to turn them off
[16:48] <Peace-> hi :)
[16:49] <Graf_Westerholt> Peace-
[17:11] <surunveri> hi
[17:33] <u19809> Hi all, can anybody help me with akonadi ? I can no longer mail because it refuses to start .
[17:35] <BATi> hello, anybody with a trouble displaying "logout/shutdown/sleep.." dialog using power button?
[17:37] <yardbird> ok, time for me to get something to eat... and then a shower, and then.... laundry... yay!
[17:37]  * yardbird waves
[17:51] <BATi_> hello, anybody with a trouble displaying "logout/shutdown/sleep.." dialog using power button?
[17:53] <SiegeLord> Is there any way to change the shortcut associated with the terminal panel in Dolphin?
[17:54] <Peace-> SiegeLord: systemsettings top right , type shortcuts
[18:01] <SiegeLord> Peace-, I don't think it's there
[18:22] <surunveri> hi
[18:22] <surunveri> I accidentally overwrote the linux HD bootrecord with a program called ms-sys
[18:22] <surunveri> it was a stupid typo thing anyway i figured if i restart the computer the boot record wont work for linux now
[18:22] <surunveri> :D
[18:22] <surunveri> so how can I fix that? :D
[18:23] <inful> is it possible to setup kdm to switch a user that logs in to the allready running session for that user?
[18:23] <inful> instead of creating a new session?
[18:23] <inful> leaving the user with two sessions running
[18:27] <surunveri> Anyone?
[18:27] <surunveri> :D
[18:27] <surunveri> all day wasted wit this thing :D
[18:33] <surunveri> Anyoen?
[18:33] <kdelooping> hi, I am having problems with my Natty install
[18:33] <kdelooping> those icons at the start are just looping ... and I dont' get into the KDE desktop
[18:34] <kdelooping> I did an install to a fresh hard drive from the Kubuntu DVD
[18:35] <Peace-> surunveri:
[18:35] <Peace-> !grub2 | surunveri
[18:36] <Peace-> kdelooping: explain better
[18:37] <kdelooping> I assume you want explanation of the failure point rather than my install effort.
[18:37] <surunveri> to put it simply
[18:37] <surunveri> i've 2 HDDs and im trying to isntall windows on the other
[18:37] <surunveri> i dont have a) floppy b) cd c) usb cant boot
[18:37] <Peace-> yea
[18:37] <surunveri> HDD 1. has Kubuntu
[18:37] <surunveri> HDD 2. Was blank
[18:37] <kdelooping> Peace: ok, you know those icons that are shown in sequence when KDE is starting up?
[18:37] <surunveri> I created a 1024mb FAT32 partittion on the HDD 2.
[18:37] <surunveri> copied windows XP isntaller files on that partition
[18:38] <surunveri> i was asking for help and go this program called ms-sys
[18:38] <Peace-> kdelooping: ah know i uderstood
[18:38] <surunveri> which writes DOS boot record
[18:38] <surunveri> so i was supposed to write the dos boot record on HDD 2.
[18:38] <surunveri> but by accident did it on HDD 1
[18:38] <kdelooping> so two icons start and get hazy outline ... then the icons pause and I loop back to the first icons again
[18:38] <surunveri> the new HDD appeared as dev/sda while the old appeared as dev/sdb
[18:38] <u19809> Hi all, can anybody help getting akonadi back operational.  It refuses to start claiming another version is running, even when I do a reboot
[18:38] <surunveri> i noticed this but somehow got mixed up and just accidentally typed in the wrong line
[18:38] <kdelooping> so KDE start is looping before I get to the KDE desktop
[18:39] <Peace-> kdelooping: video card?
[18:40] <Peace-> surunveri: you need to restore grub on the hdd1
[18:40] <kdelooping> Peace: I'm talking to you from Hardy Kubuntu ... from the same computer that the Natty Kubuntu is installed on.
[18:41] <kdelooping> Peace: I just powered down my computer and switched the cable from my new hard drive back to my old hard drive.
[18:41] <surunveri> Peace-:  yeah
[18:41] <surunveri> but u see i cant use any live cd or anything
[18:41] <kdelooping> also, the video card worked fine when I was using the live Kubuntu DVD.
[18:41] <Peace-> surunveri: you would use an usb right?
[18:41] <Peace-> kdelooping: the hd is full?
[18:42] <surunveri> no i cant use USB either
[18:42] <Peace-> if you can't use usb
[18:42] <Peace-> live cd
[18:42] <Peace-> or floppy
[18:42] <Peace-> you can't fix it
[18:42] <FloodBotK1> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <kdelooping> Peace: no, the brand new 2TB hard drive is empty ... and only holds the new Natty Kubuntu install
[18:42] <surunveri> ok awesome
[18:43] <Peace-> you need at least a usb
[18:43] <surunveri> so I'm down to making SURE I can boot to DOS
[18:43] <surunveri> and making sure the windows installer on the dos partition works
[18:43] <kdelooping> ok, I'm getting a google hit now: Natty in loop starting X/KDE
[18:43] <surunveri> and installing windows and not even being able to get kubuntu to work even if i wanted?
[18:43] <surunveri> sounds awesome
[18:43] <Peace-> kdelooping: some tips
[18:43] <surunveri> also i've to try and not restart the computer
[18:43] <surunveri> :DD
[18:43] <Peace-> kdelooping: pressing CTRL ALT F1 you can get a shell login
[18:44] <Peace-> kdelooping: PRESSING CTRL ALT F7  you get the old "sesssion"
[18:46] <kdelooping> Peace-: yeah ... I'm switching over to F1 screen console ... and I ran "top" to see what is looping but nothing pops out. And I did "sudo shutdown -r now" to restart which works fine.
[18:47] <kdelooping> so console screens are there
[18:47] <Peace-> you should go where logs are
[18:47] <Peace-> var log X
[18:47] <Peace-> i guess
[18:47] <kdelooping> ok, I'll try that
[18:48] <kdelooping> I have the 2TB hdd hooked up now.
[18:48] <Peace-> kdelooping: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:48] <Peace-> that could be usefull to understood
[18:50] <kdelooping> I'm trying to remember the mount command. I just did a "sudo fdisk -l" and the hard drive System is "EFI GPT". That's weird.
[18:50] <kdelooping> is that the new ext4?
[18:58] <kdelooping> ok, mount is saying "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'" ... so my Hardy-Kubuntu doesn't know how to look at my Natty Kubuntu harddrive
[19:06] <varie> halo
[19:07] <Graf_Westerholt> Hallo varie
[19:08] <varie> where do you come from graf?
[19:10] <woodzy_> HELP! i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[19:17] <will_> test
[19:45] <abou> salu
[19:45] <abou>  
[20:08] <dan_l> Hi. IIs there anyway to force kubuntu to upgrade?
[20:08] <James147> dan_l: from waht you what?
[20:09] <James147> ^^ to what
[20:09] <dan_l> James147:  10.10 to 11.04
[20:09] <dan_l> James147:  I'm getting this error message when I try to upgrade.  Attempts to use the google have been futile.
[20:10] <James147> dan_l: what error?
[20:10] <dan_l> i'll get you the exact text:
[20:13] <dan_l> James147:   Distribution upgrade process exited with code 1.
[20:13] <James147> :p
[20:13] <James147> dan_l: run "sudo do-release-upgrade" and pastebin the output
[20:15] <dan_l> James147:  http://pastebin.com/QnU2BHii
[20:16] <James147> and /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log and /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[20:16] <James147> :)
[20:18] <dan_l> James147:  http://pastebin.com/6ehWYLgw
[20:19] <dan_l> apt.log doesn't seem to exist.
[20:20] <James147> dan_l: hmm, try removing the ppas you have added (ppa-purge can do it)
[20:21] <James147> ^^ seems to be failing when trying to read the firefox ppa
[20:22] <dan_l> James147:  It's no longer under sources.
[20:22] <James147> ^^
[20:24] <dan_l> Ok.  So:  sudo ppa-purge http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu  ?
[20:27] <James147> if thats the url you used to add it
[20:28] <dan_l> James147:  is there a command to list ppa's?
[20:29]  * James147 dosnt know
[20:32] <dan_l> Yeah if I check my sources, I don't have the ppa listed
[20:32] <dan_l> I know i had it
[20:41] <woodzy_> HELP! i get the following error - http://pastebin.com/dw7Latex - when i try and install GGZ gaming.
[20:41] <James147> dan_l: some sources are in the sources.d folder
[20:42] <dan_l> James147:  I think I know what the problem is.  Will you be around for 20 minutes or so?
[20:42] <dan_l> (I may need some hand holding because i'm computer stupid)
[20:42] <James147> dan_l: probally... though I may not respond stright away :)
[20:42] <James147> woodzy_: try "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[20:43] <James147> woodzy_: ^^ and best to make sure your system is fully upgraded (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   << after the update)
[20:46] <woodzy_> James147: i just got done applying all updates. will run it again to make sure.
[20:50] <kleopatra> Hello, i have a dvd in my drive, how can i find out whats its /dev-address? mount says sr0 is unknown
[20:55] <woodzy_> James147: This is the error I get when I run sudo apt-get update:   http://pastebin.com/XSQwZR0a
[20:57] <dan_l> James147:  You're a genius!!  I WIN AT KUBUNTU!!!
[21:00] <dan_l> Ok maybe not.
[21:00] <dan_l> Perhaps I fail at kubuntu.
[21:12] <katsrc> hey anyone packaging 4.6.3?
[21:44] <mole_> so far 1/3 good installs from 10.10 -> 11.04
[21:44] <mole_> just did my work pc but kernel locks up
[21:44] <mole_> boots fine with previous kernel
[21:45] <mole_> :(
[21:45] <Kaspi> hello
[21:45] <mole_> 67% fail
[21:47] <mole_> the first one i did worked flawlessly so i went ahead and started doing all my machine, ... netbook fail graphics are too slow compared to 10.10 and work desktop fail... kernel locks up
[21:50] <mole_> 11.04 looks way better though
[21:51] <Kaspi> KDE can't override the look of GTK apps?
[21:52] <mole_> 11.04 does...
[21:52] <mole_> thunderbird is looking pimp
[21:52] <Kaspi> the KDE native dialogs look pretty cool, but pidgin looks like a windows 95 app
[21:53] <dan_l> Kapsi:  try kopete:)
[21:53] <home_> hey kubuntu guys
[21:54] <home_> How can ?I get krita 2.3.3?
[21:55] <James147> Kaspi: System settings > applicaiton apearence > gtk ... try configure it there
[21:55] <Graf_Westerholt> home_: sudo apt-get install krita
[21:56] <James147> Kaspi: if that dosnt work see if you have .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 and .gtkrc-2.0  ^^ if your missing .gtkrc-2.0 the symlink it to .gtkrc-2.0-kde4  (ie ln -s  ~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4  .gtkrc-2.0)
[21:57] <home_> i am on ubuntu
[21:57] <James147> ^^ ~/.gtkrc-2.0  ... though it dosnt matter if your in the homedir to begin with:)
[21:57] <home_> doint have the ppa for the latest version :*(
[21:58] <James147> home_: ubuntu and kubuntu share the smaae repos... and software availble to one is abilible to the other
[21:58] <James147> home_: natty seems to have 2.3.3 ^^
[21:59] <home_> I dont have naty
[21:59] <home_> I am on maverik
[22:01] <James147> home_: then upgrade to natty
[22:02] <James147> home_: or you can see if the backports ppa has it...
[22:03] <home_> where is the backports ppa?
[22:04] <home_> ill just upgrade :/
[22:04] <home_> but seriously? krita does not have its own zip?
[22:04] <home_> thats pretty fail :/
[22:08] <Kaspi> James147: can't even click the Configure... button there§
[22:08] <James147> Kaspi: for any particular reason?
[22:09] <Kaspi> James147: I don't really know why, but actually I can configure only the Oxygen style
[22:13] <mole_> great
[22:13] <mole_> firefox 4.01 doesn't work properly in kubuntu 11.04
[22:13] <mole_> :(
[22:16] <mole_> and
[22:16] <mole_> complete lockup
[22:16] <mole_> :(
[22:16] <mole_> sysrq-b
[22:16] <mole_> :(
[22:17] <mole_> heh grub will only load every second boot
[22:18] <BluesKaj> mole_, sudo update-grub, then reinstall firefozx
[22:18] <mole_> k
[22:18] <mole_> will do
[22:18] <mole_> good thing this is saturday
[22:19] <mole_> or else i'd be fired for wasting time using linux lol
[22:19] <mole_> i also can't use kernel that ships with 11.04
[22:19] <mole_> network card drive tanks it instantly on boot
[22:19] <mole_> hard lock
[22:22] <BluesKaj> mole_, sudo ifconfig eth0 down,  then up
[22:22] <mole_> BluesKaj: it's on boot
[22:22] <BluesKaj> unless it's wifi
[22:22] <mole_> have to boot into 2.6.35-28
[22:22] <BluesKaj> boot into the recovery
[22:22] <mole_> recovery tanks
[22:23] <mole_> that's how i know it's the network card coming up that tanks it
[22:23] <BluesKaj> get to the tty if possible
[22:23] <mole_> yeah
[22:23] <mole_> i am booted
[22:23] <mole_> but into previous kernel
[22:24] <mole_> firefox on this machines specifically is failling
[22:24] <mole_> somethin to do with javascript isn't working
[22:25] <BluesKaj> yeah I ran on the previous kernel on my other pc for a while til my graphics driver was updated.
[22:27] <Morfin> Ребята беда. Любунту 10.04 при установке зависает после 'раскладка клавиатуры'
[22:27] <BluesKaj> mole_, check additional drivers in kmenu /apps /settings , make sure you have the recommended driver installed
[22:27] <Morfin> Не туда
[22:27] <BluesKaj> !ru | Morfin
[22:28] <BluesKaj> BBL...dinner
[22:28] <woodzy_> James147: This is the error I get when I run sudo apt-get update:   http://pastebin.com/XSQwZR0a
[22:29] <mole_> i'm gonna see if i can get this kernel to boot
[22:30] <mole_> lol sooo glad this is saturday
[22:31] <mole_> grub failing
[22:31] <mole_> kernel failing
[22:31] <mole_> don't install 11.04 at work lol
[22:33] <woodzy_> This is the error I get when I run sudo apt-get update:   http://pastebin.com/XSQwZR0a
[22:33] <mole_> is your dns server down lol
[22:34] <woodzy_> http://pastebin.com/XSQwZR0a
[22:34] <mole_> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[22:34] <mole_> make sure you can access your dns server
[22:35] <woodzy_> # Generated by NetworkManager
[22:35] <woodzy_> domain gateway.2wire.net
[22:35] <woodzy_> search gateway.2wire.net
[22:35] <woodzy_> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[22:35] <FloodBotK1> woodzy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <mole_> woodzy_: is your name server 192.168.1.1?
[22:36] <mole_> doubtful
[22:37] <markit> hi, I've 10.10 with ppa for latest KDE. Is it safe upgrade to 11.04?
[22:37] <mole_> no
[22:37] <mole_> not for work
[22:37] <mole_> maybe at home
[22:37] <markit> "at home"?
[22:37] <markit> what are the problems?
[22:37] <mole_> lol
[22:38] <mole_> your mileage may vary
[22:38] <mole_> 1 installaion for me went smooth
[22:38] <mole_> other are complete disasters
[22:38] <mole_> all running from 10.10
[22:38] <markit> urgh, "disasters"!?!
[22:38] <mole_> graphis drivers locking up
[22:38] <mole_> slow
[22:38] <mole_> otkernel locking up on bo
[22:38] <mole_> kernel locking up on boot
[22:38] <mole_> grub failing
[22:39] <mole_> u name it
[22:39] <FloodBotK1> mole_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:39] <markit> mm do you think is an upgrade problem, or 11.04 is buggy with your hardware?
[22:39] <mole_> no idea
[22:39] <mole_> 3 different pieces of hardware completely
[22:39] <markit> I should try a live and then decide
[22:39] <mole_> yeah
[22:39] <mole_> i was just warning you
[22:40] <mole_> cause i made the mistake of upgrading at work today
[22:40] <mole_> thank goodness it is saturday
[22:40] <markit> lol
[22:40] <markit> yes, I know the feeling
[22:40] <mole_> i might have just fixed some issues tho
[22:40] <markit> "well, is just an upgrade, what could go wrong?"
[22:40] <markit> and system does not boot anymore :)
[22:41] <mole_> i think i worked around my issues
[22:41] <mole_> i installed linux-2.6.38-8-server kernel
[22:42] <mole_> the regular one wasn't booting
[22:42] <markit> mmm so is the kernel that has problems with your hardware
[22:42] <markit> not a "upgrade" problem due to kde and ppa
[22:42] <mole_> no no
[22:42] <mole_> just kubuntu specific shittyness
[22:43] <mole_> oh
[22:43] <mole_> graphics drivers tanking again
[22:43] <mole_> it boots
[22:43] <mole_> but not for long
[22:43] <mole_> awesome
[22:43] <FloodBotK1> mole_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <markit> mole_: FloodBotK1 is asking you to write longer lines :)
[22:44] <woodzy_> yes mole
[22:45] <mole_> markit: i disregard it :)
[22:45] <markit> any "success story" about 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?
[22:45] <mole_> yeah
[22:45] <mole_> my desktop upgraded perfect and 11.04 is awesome
[22:45]  * markit scratches his head and looks at his laptop with 10.10... perfect test machine
[22:45] <mole_> but netbook it's way slower for graphics driver and touch pad fucking up and the other problems are with my desktop at work
[22:46] <markit> btw, kde 4.6.3 released yesterday
[22:46] <mole_> i can't use my computer long enough to install it right now
[22:46] <mole_> so..
[22:46] <mole_> fail
[22:46] <markit> mole_: do you use Free video drivers?
[22:46] <mole_> lol
[22:46] <FloodBotK1> mole_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <markit> and intel, amd or nvidia?
[22:46] <mole_> i'm going to have to now i think
[22:46] <mole_> nvidia
[22:46] <mole_> cause i got twinview
[22:47] <mole_> i don't know of nouveau does that
[22:49] <IdleOne> mole_: give the enter key a rest please
[22:49] <IdleOne> and please don't curse
[22:49] <mole_> i can't type long lines because my touch pad randomly clicks
[22:50] <mole_> will try to fix but got other 11.04 messes to clean up
[22:50] <mole_> like getting my desktop to boot and run so i can work and release some software
[22:50] <mole_> :)
[22:51] <rwd> anyone good with openvpn
[22:51] <rwd> ???
[22:52] <mole_> recently kubuntu changed the way grub shows up
[22:53] <mole_> how do you make it so that you can select your kernels... ubuntu made the horrible decision to disable this and it's non obvious how to remedy this due to the grub template mess
[22:54] <rwd> mole: grub customizer
[22:54] <mole_> set grub_default=1? in /etc/default/grub
[22:54] <mole_> the variables in there aren't commented and are stupidly named
[22:56] <mole_> nope
[22:57] <rwd> mole: info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'
[22:59] <mole_> rwd: 's what i don't get "grub_timeout" is set to 10
[22:59] <mole_> but menu is not displayed
[22:59] <mole_> makes no sense
[23:01] <rwd> mole: are you trying to get other OS or just kernals?
[23:01] <mole_> just kernels
[23:01] <mole_> not other o/s
[23:01] <mole_> or else i wouldn't be in a panic
[23:02] <mole_> i just want to have my grub menu display as it has done for years but now kubuntu changed defaults and now it makes no sense how to set it back
[23:02] <rwd> i'd still recommend installing the grub customization GUI (the ppa is somewhere online); it should list all available kernals to display during grub boot menu
[23:02] <mole_> i hate using gui's for this stuff
[23:03] <rwd> *shrug* i use what works
[23:05] <mole_> i just hate when something works for years
[23:05] <mole_> then breaks for no reason
[23:06] <mole_> heh
[23:07] <mole_> it's official -generic fails on this box
[23:07] <mole_> but -server works
[23:07] <rwd> have you read the boot screen carefully? if you're using grub 1.99 there's a submenu for older kernals that has to be chosen (rather then all being displayed on the main menu)
[23:07] <mole_> (kernel package)
[23:07] <mole_> i set it to -1 and it works
[23:08] <mole_> oh and i also set grub_default to saved
[23:08] <mole_> so one of those 2 made it work
[23:08] <mole_> not sure why it didn't work with previous config
[23:08] <mole_> who knows
[23:08] <mole_> i'm just praying for no tanking now
[23:09] <mole_> now to make firefox run javascript
[23:11] <mole_> resizing konsole window tanks box
[23:11] <mole_> :(:(
[23:11] <mole_> the mac guys are gonna have a field day with this one
[23:15] <mole_> arg... can't run javascript... but can operate desktop with no windows effects
[23:17] <mole_> too bad it's not possible to install firefox 3.6
[23:22] <mole_> do u guys remember when kde would remember your whole session and restore it on log in exactly how you left it..
[23:22] <mole_> wonder what ever happenned to that
[23:24] <James147> mole_: still does it
[23:24] <James147> mole_: System settings > startup and shutdown > sessionmanagment
[23:27] <mole_> oh i guess just chromium doesn't work with it
[23:27] <mole_> nm
[23:27] <James147> mole_: it does here
[23:27] <mole_> just one window
[23:27] <mole_> multiple windows fail
[23:27] <James147> mole_: works here for all windows
[23:27] <mole_> nice
[23:27] <mole_> let me try again to make sure i'm not trippin'
[23:28] <mole_> yeah
[23:28] <mole_> for sure second window fails
[23:29] <James147> mole_: test it on a new user
[23:30] <mole_> oh i will
[23:30] <mole_> just can't right now
[23:30] <mole_> some how i gotta figure out how to make firefox 4 run javascript
[23:30] <mole_> no idea how
[23:30] <James147> it should ^^
[23:31] <mole_> yeah it doesn't
[23:31] <James147> mole_: is there an option in its preferences?
[23:31] <mole_> maybe
[23:31] <mole_> javascript does work on my netbook
[23:32] <mole_> so not a 11.04 problem
[23:32] <mole_> yeah
[23:32] <mole_> okay nm lol it woanrks
[23:32] <mole_> works
[23:32] <mole_> i was paranoid cause i've been battling kubuntu fail all morning but yeah it was just disabled