| Tenochito | The sound control is missing on the bottom panel. It used to be there but would not control the sound. | 00:29 |
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| === LAcan_ is now known as LAcan | ||
| Byan | any ideas on how to add apps to the menu | 01:54 |
| Byan | it's annoying that I can't add somehthing to an application launch bar w/o it being there.. | 01:55 |
| Unit193 | Byan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#I%20don%27t%20know%20how%20to%20make/add%20a%20application%20to%20%22start%22%20menu. | 01:58 |
| Byan | Unit193: you know off hand the best way to restart lxpanel? | 02:01 |
| Byan | nvermind | 02:03 |
| Unit193 | Ah, ok... | 02:04 |
| gNewPower | Hi! Where can I get the hardware requirements for Lubuntu? Thanks! | 03:12 |
| Unit193 | gNewPower: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | 03:13 |
| gNewPower | Unit193, thanks! | 03:14 |
| gNewPower | Unit193, do youknow how much hd space does it need and what type of graphics card? | 03:16 |
| Unit193 | gNewPower: How much space do you have? | 03:16 |
| gNewPower | I am comparing with LMDE hardware requierments: x86 processor (for both 32 & 64-bit versions) | 03:17 |
| gNewPower | x86_64 compatible processor (for the 64-bit version) | 03:17 |
| gNewPower | 512 MB of system memory (RAM) | 03:17 |
| * gNewPower is choosing a distro to install | 03:17 | |
| Unit193 | The installer doesn't let you have less then 5G (that's being worked on) | 03:19 |
| gNewPower | Unit193, thanks | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | gNewPower: http://paste.ubuntu.com/604300/ | 03:27 |
| gNewPower | Unit193, thanks | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | That's the display I have with it | 03:28 |
| gNewPower | gotcha | 03:29 |
| gNewPower | bye, and thanks a lot for the info! | 03:34 |
| sadie | alguein puede ayudarme | 03:34 |
| sadie | help meee | 03:34 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: If someone needs it, my unofficial ISO that will install in under 3GB is at ftp://ftp.jmarsden.org/pub/lubuntu-11.04.jm1.iso | 03:35 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Thanks. I was looking for your email to see what the min was... | 03:35 |
| jmarsden | sadie: ask a specific question about Lubuntu and someone might be able to help. "Help me" is too general to be useful. | 03:36 |
| sadie | ok thankas ine to know if should i install restricted | 03:36 |
| sadie | -extras | 03:37 |
| jmarsden | Do you need any software that is non-free? If so, enable the restricted repository... if you don't need it, you do not need to enable it. | 03:37 |
| sadie | im new and my english is bad | 03:39 |
| sadie | shuold i install yes or not | 03:39 |
| jmarsden | Only if you need something in it. | 03:40 |
| sadie | but I do not corrupt the file system | 03:41 |
| sadie | ? | 03:41 |
| jmarsden | Enabling restricted will not corrupt your filesystem. | 03:41 |
| jmarsden | Disabling restricted will not corrupt your filesystem. | 03:42 |
| jmarsden | :) | 03:42 |
| sadie | ok understand | 03:42 |
| sadie | thanks a lot | 03:42 |
| jmarsden | sadie: You're welcome. | 03:43 |
| sadie | and compiz? | 03:43 |
| jmarsden | You do not need compiz to run Lubuntu. | 03:43 |
| sadie | ok | 03:43 |
| sadie | antivirus | 03:43 |
| sadie | ? | 03:43 |
| sadie | and firefox 4? | 03:44 |
| jmarsden | There are no Linux viruses "in the wild". if you need a free AV program, try clamav | 03:44 |
| jmarsden | You can install Firefox in Lubuntu if you want. The default browser is chromium, which uses less memory. | 03:44 |
| sadie | ok thanks i have to reboot now | 03:45 |
| jmarsden | You're welcome. | 03:45 |
| sadie | and lubuntu 11.04? | 03:45 |
| sadie | is good? | 03:45 |
| jmarsden | I helped make it, so I think it is good :) Try it! | 03:45 |
| sadie | are you sure? try 11.04 now? | 03:46 |
| jmarsden | Sure, it is an official release. | 03:46 |
| sadie | ok thanks a lot reboot now bye | 03:46 |
| jmarsden | Bye | 03:47 |
| sadie | hello again | 04:36 |
| sadie | is the same lubuntu-restricted -extra that ubuntu -estricted extras | 04:36 |
| sadie | ? | 04:36 |
| KM0201 | yes | 04:38 |
| jmarsden | Yes | 04:38 |
| jmarsden | Lubuntu uses the same repositories that other Ubuntu flavours use. | 04:39 |
| KM0201 | jmarsden: yeah, but i think he was asking if there's differences in the two packages.. but they are the same | 04:39 |
| KM0201 | there's a kubuntu-restricted-extras, and xubuntu-restricted-extras also | 04:39 |
| jmarsden | KM0201: Those are not packages, they are repository names. | 04:39 |
| KM0201 | well, yeah, true. | 04:40 |
| KM0201 | but the "repository names' install the same packages | 04:40 |
| Unit193 | meta packages | 04:40 |
| KM0201 | for crying out loud | 04:40 |
| sadie | I have installed addons But Not restricted-extras .. Should I install too | 04:40 |
| KM0201 | can we at least agree that from somewher ein the vast internet, lubuntu-restricted-extras, and ubuntu-restricted-extras, install the same packages? | 04:40 |
| jmarsden | sadie: Only if you need something in it. | 04:41 |
| KM0201 | sadie: its mostly just a bunch of multimedia stuff | 04:41 |
| KM0201 | if you want to install it, it won't hur tanything | 04:41 |
| KM0201 | sadie: i think it also installs microsoft fonts, if i recallc orrectly | 04:41 |
| jmarsden | sadie: Lubuntu is about freedom, free open source software. So only use the restricted stuff (non-free) if you need it. | 04:41 |
| KM0201 | jmarsden: thats a matter of opinion | 04:42 |
| KM0201 | some may say "lubuntu is about having a light, stable, OS.. i don't care if something is "non free" " | 04:42 |
| sadie | ok them i have ubuntu-restricted-addons installed and can i also install restricted-extras? | 04:43 |
| jmarsden | KM0201: It is? Have you read http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy ? | 04:43 |
| KM0201 | it's still a matter of opinion | 04:43 |
| jmarsden | No, it is a definition of what Ububntu is about from those who create it. | 04:43 |
| KM0201 | sadie: i guess you could... but i think it will just uninstall ubuntu-restricted-packages, then install lubuntu-restricted (which are the same packages) | 04:44 |
| KM0201 | jmarsden: then why don't they make the OS completley open source, and not make restricted software/drivers available at all? | 04:44 |
| KM0201 | and trust me, i know what ubuntu's philosophy is | 04:44 |
| jmarsden | We should continue this in #lubuntu-offtopic, if you want to, it is not really apropos in a support channel. | 04:45 |
| KM0201 | jmarsden: i didn't bring it up, you did. | 04:46 |
| sadie | my English is not good do not understand .. and I have installed Lubuntu-restricted-addons, should I also install Lubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:46 |
| KM0201 | i could care less | 04:46 |
| KM0201 | sadie: if you want to, yes. | 04:46 |
| KM0201 | if you don't want to, no | 04:46 |
| sadie | okkk | 04:46 |
| sadie | jajaja | 04:46 |
| KM0201 | sadie: its not gonna hurt anything to install it | 04:47 |
| sadie | better with short ANSWERS | 04:47 |
| KM0201 | sadie: well i can't get much shorter than "if you want to, yes, if you don't, no.. it won't hurt anything" | 04:47 |
| sadie | jajaj i understand thanks a lot | 04:48 |
| sadie | will install it and says it will remove and install livacodec52 livacodec-extra52 | 04:49 |
| sadie | is ok? | 04:50 |
| KM0201 | yes, that should befine. | 04:51 |
| sadie | I will install it and says it will remove livacodec52 and install livacodec-extra52 | 04:51 |
| sadie | ok thanks | 04:51 |
| sadie | a question more?? anything should be good with videos and audio | 04:53 |
| KM0201 | what do you mean? | 04:53 |
| KM0201 | you mean what programs? | 04:53 |
| sadie | with restricted -extras | 04:53 |
| KM0201 | yes, you should be able to play just about any multimedia format (or at least i've yet to run into one i can't play) | 04:54 |
| sadie | exalie does not work well with a cd audio english | 04:55 |
| sadie | of library | 04:55 |
| KM0201 | i don't know about that | 04:56 |
| KM0201 | i dont' use exaile | 04:56 |
| sadie | them remove and install bangree | 04:56 |
| sadie | ? | 04:56 |
| KM0201 | you can try banshee... i don't use it either, so i don't know if that will helkp or not | 05:00 |
| sadie | which do you use? | 05:04 |
| KM0201 | i use audacious to play mp3's | 05:05 |
| KM0201 | i don't play to many CD's | 05:05 |
| KM0201 | i imagine banshee or rythmbox, or maybe even audacious, would be fine for playing cd's | 05:06 |
| semitones | vlc does it too | 06:04 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : here i am | 07:36 |
| jmarsden | NRWlion: OK... I know roughly what I am looking for but have not found it yet... | 07:38 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden take your time. have stuff to do | 07:38 |
| jmarsden | OK. Meanwhile, if you boot from the Lubuntu 11.04 CD and select the "Install Lubuntu" option does it work and get you to the "Welcome" screen? (Don't go all the way through the installer, obviously!) | 07:39 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden just got a pop up that might be useful ... its called busy box | 07:39 |
| mikeatvillage | Hi, has anyone got Wine running under Lubuntu? | 07:39 |
| * NRWlion negative | 07:39 | |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Yes I do | 07:40 |
| jmarsden | mikeatvillage: That should be doable, but I have not tried it... ah, good, Unit193 will assist you :) | 07:41 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Did you have to tweak anything or did it work first time ok? | 07:41 |
| mikeatvillage | I put my DreamweaverMX (Windows) cd in and it opens in fileManager | 07:42 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden: you know what the following lines mean: (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Input/Output error Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem/squashfs | 07:43 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: You're just trying to run windows programs? All I did was just install and disable cautious-launcher | 07:43 |
| Unit193 | install wine* | 07:44 |
| jmarsden | NRWlion: Yes, they mean your machine could not read that file from the CD-R, basically. Sounds like a bad CD-R or a failing CDROM drive. Can you reliably run the "Test this CD" thing and get it to report no errors? | 07:44 |
| mikeatvillage | Under Mepis it would open in Wine and install DreamweaverMX | 07:44 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : affirmative tested it on two different pc at my work | 07:45 |
| jmarsden | NRWlion: What about on *this* PC? | 07:45 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Is it ok to tell people to disable cautious-launcher? | 07:45 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : freezing system now | 07:45 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: Sure, if it helps them do what they need to do in wine. | 07:45 |
| NRWlion | last time i tried it delivered no errors | 07:45 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: In terminal: sudo /usr/share/applications/wine.desktop | 07:46 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: (IIRC) The Exec line should read: Exec=wine start /unix %f | 07:47 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: "Command not found" | 07:47 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: sudo nano !! (I forgot that...) | 07:49 |
| Unit193 | Bug #565233 | 07:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 565233 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) "Wine inconsistent behavior (dup-of: 14335)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565233 | 07:49 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 14335 in udisks (Ubuntu) "nautilus wants to execute all text files on vfat and ntfs drives" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14335 | 07:49 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Still with me? | 07:54 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Just edited (with MC) any now trying.. | 07:55 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: I took 'cautious-launcher' out of the line but still no joy. | 07:58 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Can you double click the installer? | 07:58 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : still there? | 07:59 |
| jmarsden | Yes. | 07:59 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Got no Windows to test the .exe | 07:59 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Nothing came up? | 08:00 |
| mikeatvillage | Sorry, misread that. Double-click tries to open it in archive manager | 08:00 |
| jmarsden | If you can't run the "test this CD" item, and the CD is good... then chances are high the machine has some sort of hardware issue, as far as I know. | 08:00 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : thought the same | 08:00 |
| jmarsden | NRWlion: Do you have a spare CDROM drive from another PC to swap in, in case that helps? | 08:00 |
| mikeatvillage | jmarsden: Machine was OK when running Mepis | 08:01 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : thats a negative | 08:01 |
| jmarsden | mikeatvillage: Sorry, I was talking to NRWlion but forgot to say so :) | 08:01 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Sounds like wine isn't set as default... Right-Click > open with wine (Should be something like that) | 08:01 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: Interesting... someone was having that sort of issue with text files in Lubuntu recently... maybe there is something odd about file manager filetype associations somewhere? | 08:02 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Success! Many thanks (again). | 08:03 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: No problem! (cautious-launcher may get put back in if you update) | 08:04 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Open with "Wine windows Program Launcher" now works - nothing was happening before | 08:04 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: That was cautious-launcher. It won't let you run a program without -x (try doing that with a CD) | 08:05 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Thanks, I'll make a note so I know where to look next time. | 08:05 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: You're way smarter then I am (You're a dev!) | 08:05 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: How long has that issue been there? Looks like the bug has a patch but noone has noticed and it didn't get fixed in 11.04 ? | 08:07 |
| jmarsden | BTW I'm not necessarily smarter, I've just lived longer, and spent more of my life with Linux, than a lot of people have :) | 08:08 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: I fixed that way back in 10.10 (maybe even .04) and I know mint also had this issue. I don't know if it's fixed yet in 11.04 | 08:08 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Do you happen to be running 11.04? | 08:08 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: are you the one who provided the patch in bug #565233 | 08:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 565233 in wine1.2 (Ubuntu) "Wine inconsistent behavior (dup-of: 14335)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/565233 | 08:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 14335 in udisks (Ubuntu) "nautilus wants to execute all text files on vfat and ntfs drives" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14335 | 08:09 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: No I am not (I edited wine.desktop to take it out for myself) | 08:09 |
| mikeatvillage | Unit193: Yes, 11.04 | 08:09 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Then it's still broken in Natty... | 08:09 |
| Unit193 | mikeatvillage: Thanks | 08:10 |
| jmarsden | Unit193 and mikeatvillage: OK, I've subscribed to the bug and will see about packaging up that fix for Oneiric 11.10 | 08:10 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Sweet! I may try to VM a few more Ubuntu based, see if they have it too | 08:11 |
| jmarsden | Go for it, if you find one that is fixed but still uses cautious-launcher, let me know or add it to that Launchpad bug. | 08:12 |
| NRWlion | and i will go back to bed for an hr or two because i am awake since 3.40 am utc | 08:12 |
| jmarsden | :) It is after midnight here, I need to go to bed soon too... | 08:12 |
| jmarsden | Goodnight NRWlion | 08:12 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : hope i helped you a little bit | 08:13 |
| Unit193 | 3:13am here | 08:13 |
| jmarsden | NRWlion: well, we have a bug report and *something* is unhappy with your PC and that Lubuntu 11.04 CD... so that's a start :) | 08:13 |
| NRWlion | anything i can do atm? | 08:14 |
| jmarsden | Probably not, unless you can burn Lubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 CDs and see if they work or fail in the same way on that PC? | 08:14 |
| jmarsden | And add what you have tested and the results to your wiki page about this, so we do not forget what you tested already tonight :) | 08:15 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : top 1 nearly impossible ^^ ran out of blank cds on the last try ^^ but top 2 is possible | 08:21 |
| NRWlion | will copy our convo into it | 08:21 |
| NRWlion | jmarsden : just a note: conversation is been added to the wiki page | 08:57 |
| lxpain | hi all | 14:58 |
| lxpain | i have 11.04 pain | 14:58 |
| lxpain | lxpanel seg faults on changing mouse/trackpad acceleration [https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/772749] | 15:01 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 772749 in lxinput (Ubuntu) "lxinput seg fault on setting change" [Undecided,New] | 15:01 |
| lxpain | so it's essentially impossible to use | 15:01 |
| lxpain | has anyone got a workaround? | 15:02 |
| lxpain | oh, and does anyone else have dependency hell with perl-modules? | 15:02 |
| UndiFineD | lxpain, did you try to resolve perl with cpan ? | 15:03 |
| lxpain | no | 15:04 |
| lxpain | should i? | 15:04 |
| lxpain | perl -MCPAN et al | 15:04 |
| UndiFineD | well, I had no issues doing it that way in the past | 15:04 |
| lxpain | okay i'll try | 15:04 |
| lxpain | brb | 15:04 |
| lxpain | still fails | 15:22 |
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| === szczur_ is now known as szczur | ||
| phillw | UndiFineD: Just so as you know, Jacky's laptop is back on its way to Derrick, the USPS say they tried to deliver it three times, but left no card. As soon as it lands back, I'll get an address from Jacky where someone will be in during the day and get it re-sent. (well, after Derrick recovers from having his tonsils out). What a PITA! | 18:05 |
| === wiZZZZZZone is now known as wizonesolutions | ||
| BreetaiZentradi | Hi all, I have 2 quick questions. 1) How to move the panel from the bottom to the top and 2) how to change and/or rotate wallpapers. | 18:53 |
| UndiFineD | alright phillw | 18:53 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: the panel... right click the panel, choose preferences, and where it says "position" set it how you want it | 18:56 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: to change a wallpaper, right click desktop, choose wallpaper, and browse tot he file you want to set as your wallpaper | 18:56 |
| KM0201 | as for rotating, i'm not aware of a program that does that | 18:57 |
| BreetaiZentradi | KM0201: Thanks | 18:57 |
| BreetaiZentradi | KM0201: Is pcmanfm handling the wallpaper? | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: honestly, i'm not sure | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | i don't think so.. but it could be | 18:57 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: if its not, i imagine you could use one of the gnome tools that does it | 18:59 |
| BreetaiZentradi | KM0201: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=87784.0 script to rotate wallpapers via pcmanfm | 18:59 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: it works | 19:03 |
| KM0201 | BreetaiZentradi: how do you make it start on boot? | 19:13 |
| jmarsden | Bug #779156 | 19:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 779156 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-email does not detect LXDE in Lubuntu mailto: URIs in chromium handled poorly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/779156 | 19:39 |
| jmarsden | bioterror: What does xdg-mime query default "x-scheme-handler/mailto" output on your Lubuntu machine? I get no output, which is... bad, I think :) | 19:52 |
| bioterror | not running lubuntu machine atm. | 19:53 |
| bioterror | but anyways I get nothing :D | 19:53 |
| jmarsden | OK, never mind :) I'll play some more... | 19:53 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: I got nothing | 19:54 |
| KM0201 | same | 19:54 |
| lubuntu_ | hello | 19:54 |
| jmarsden | Thanks... I am pretty sure it should return /usr/bin/sylpheed if it was working as designed... | 19:55 |
| lubuntu_ | I'm new to lubuntu, and any walkthrough will be appreciated. | 19:55 |
| jmarsden | Or /usr/bin/thunderbird if you have installed ThunderBird :) | 19:55 |
| KM0201 | lubuntu_: walkthrough w/ what? | 19:55 |
| lubuntu_ | fix disk, defregmentation. | 19:56 |
| lubuntu_ | *defragmentation | 19:56 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu_: What makes you think the disk needs fixing or degragmenting? | 19:56 |
| lubuntu_ | I just checked a utility in lubuntu called disk utility and it said that I had something like 49 bad sectors I have | 19:57 |
| lubuntu_ | and I couldn't find how to fix them! | 19:58 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu_: defragmentation will not fix bad sectors... what exactly did you do to run the utility and what exactly did it output (use pastebin if the output is long) | 19:59 |
| lubuntu_ | brb plz | 19:59 |
| lubuntu_ | bad sectorsstart>preferences>disk utility>smart data > then I got disk failed | 20:05 |
| lubuntu_ | 47start>preferences>disk utility>smart data > then I got disk failed 47 bad sectors | 20:05 |
| jmarsden | Sounds like the hard drive is failing... best way forward is to replace it, if you can. if you need to keep using it there are ways to mark bad blocks so they do not get used, but ... failing disks tend to fail! | 20:10 |
| jmarsden | If you want to test a little more, can you boot the PC from the Lubuntu CD using the "Try without installing" menu item? | 20:11 |
| lubuntu_ | we don't have the CD | 20:12 |
| jmarsden | Do you have another Linux LiveCD you can boot from? | 20:12 |
| lubuntu_ | I installed using a USB flash drive. | 20:12 |
| lubuntu_ | *it | 20:13 |
| jmarsden | OK, can you boot from that and use the "Try without installing" boot menu item? | 20:13 |
| lubuntu_ | now, I will lose connection with you. | 20:13 |
| jmarsden | This is your *only* PC? | 20:13 |
| lubuntu_ | the other laptop have windows OS | 20:14 |
| lubuntu_ | this is a desktop that I'm talking with you through with lubuntu | 20:15 |
| jmarsden | OK, can you get onto IRC from the windows PC, then reboot the Linux PC from USb stick into "try without installing" (LiveCD) mode. | 20:15 |
| lubuntu_ | brb plz | 20:15 |
| jmarsden | It ishard to fid hardware issues on the hard drive you are running your OS from... :) | 20:15 |
| lubuntu_ | yep :) brb plz | 20:16 |
| lubuntu_ | Jmarsden I dl mirc and searched for #lubuntu, but couldn't find it | 20:25 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu_: If you connected to freenode, you can just /join #lubuntu | 20:26 |
| lubuntu_ | what is your channel's name? | 20:26 |
| jmarsden | This channel is #lubuntu on irc.freenode.net | 20:26 |
| lubuntu_ | can you walk me through plz | 20:27 |
| jmarsden | You can also run xchat for Windows instead of mirc if you want. or just browse to http://webchat.freenode.net and join it that way | 20:27 |
| lubuntu_ | ty, one min | 20:28 |
| jmarsden | I am not familiar with mirc. In windows, open a web browser and browse to http://webchat.freenode.net | 20:28 |
| lubuntu | jmarsden I'm here | 20:30 |
| lubuntu | let me restart the desktop using the flash drive | 20:31 |
| jmarsden | OK. So now boot the linux machine from the USB stick and select the "Try Lubuntu without installing" item in the boot menu. | 20:31 |
| jmarsden | Right. | 20:31 |
| lubuntu | k | 20:31 |
| lubuntu | ok I restarted from the USB and chose run lubuntu from usb --- waiting to load ... | 20:35 |
| lubuntu | ok , it loaded and I have one icon that says install lubuntu 10.10 | 20:37 |
| lubuntu | brb plz | 20:40 |
| WiZ | is lxde.org down? | 20:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | WiZ: Nope | 20:42 |
| WiZ | damn I can't seem to get to it | 20:42 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: OK... click on start and Accessories and LXterminal | 20:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | jmarsden: To automatically connect to #lubuntu > http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu | 20:51 |
| lubuntu | ok | 20:51 |
| lubuntu | i;m in lxterminal | 20:52 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: OK, let's check what device yourhard drive is... does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda do anything useful ? | 20:52 |
| lubuntu | jmarsden I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with linux commands | 20:53 |
| lubuntu | I'm familiar with DOS | 20:54 |
| jmarsden | Type the command sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda and tell me what it does. | 20:54 |
| lubuntu | k | 20:54 |
| jmarsden | It should output information on the partition tables of the hard disk, if the disk is /dev/sda | 20:54 |
| lubuntu | ok I got: fdsk: invalid option --"1" | 20:56 |
| jmarsden | the option is -l where l is the letter ell not the number 1 | 20:56 |
| lubuntu | sorry | 20:56 |
| jmarsden | Did it work better when you used -l instead of -1 ? | 20:58 |
| lubuntu | ok I got: fdisk: invalid option -- '/' | 20:59 |
| lubuntu | and then a list ... | 20:59 |
| jmarsden | That sounds like you left out the -l completely?? | 20:59 |
| jmarsden | sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | 20:59 |
| jmarsden | That is what you are supposed to type in. | 20:59 |
| lubuntu | I believe I did but let me redo it | 21:00 |
| jmarsden | Invalid option means you didn't :) | 21:00 |
| lubuntu | command not found | 21:01 |
| jmarsden | Sounds like you left out a space between fdisk and -l this time? or mistyped the word fdisk ? | 21:02 |
| lubuntu | do you want to try uppercase L | 21:02 |
| jmarsden | No. | 21:02 |
| lubuntu | ok | 21:02 |
| jmarsden | If you can't type commands accurately this is not going to work... | 21:02 |
| lubuntu | jmarsden I believe I did | 21:03 |
| lubuntu | let me try a third time | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Can't you just copy them? | 21:03 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden: Nevermind.... | 21:03 |
| jmarsden | Unit193: He's on WIndows for IRC... we could try using xchat from the livecd I suppose... might work... | 21:04 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: The error message "fdisk: invalid option -- '/'" means you had typed the sudo fdisk part correctly that time around, but stuff after it was incorrect. The "command not found" means either sudo or fdisk were not typed correctly that time around. | 21:05 |
| lubuntu | ok here what I typed and here what I got sudo fdisk-l/dev/sda command not found | 21:07 |
| jmarsden | spaces missing. | 21:07 |
| jmarsden | Look at what you typed and what I asked you to type. | 21:07 |
| jmarsden | four words. sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda | 21:08 |
| lubuntu | lol sorry jmarsden I got it right this time | 21:09 |
| jmarsden | OK, and did it show you information about the hard disk, its size and partitions etc? | 21:11 |
| lubuntu | ok what do you want me to do now I got disk/dev/sda: 82.0 GB | 21:11 |
| lubuntu | yes | 21:11 |
| jmarsden | OK, which partition on it is the large one with Lubuntu on it? /dev/sda1 perhaps? | 21:12 |
| lubuntu | the disk is only one partition with 82 GB capacity | 21:14 |
| jmarsden | I thought you had installed Lubuntu onto it? | 21:14 |
| lubuntu | yes | 21:14 |
| jmarsden | Then it should have at least two partitions, root and swap ... | 21:15 |
| lubuntu | yes lubuntu is on the whole disk ---- when I formated last time I did one partition | 21:15 |
| jmarsden | No swap???? In the fdisk output there should be a line something like | 21:16 |
| jmarsden | /dev/sda1 * 1 1245 10000431 83 Linux | 21:16 |
| jmarsden | is there one like that? | 21:16 |
| lubuntu | ok it says here /dev/sda1 1 9774 78507008 83 linux | 21:17 |
| lubuntu | yes | 21:17 |
| jmarsden | OK, so /dev/sda1 is the partition concerned. Good. Now try | 21:18 |
| jmarsden | sudo e2fsck -c /dev/sda1 | 21:18 |
| jmarsden | be very careful how you type that. | 21:19 |
| jmarsden | The 1 at the end is a number one | 21:19 |
| lubuntu | ok | 21:19 |
| jmarsden | It may take a while to run. Tell me what it says, especially if it says it finds some bad blocks. | 21:20 |
| lubuntu | checking for bad blocks | 21:21 |
| jmarsden | OK, it's trying. If it finds them it should add them to the back block list so they will not be used for files after that. | 21:30 |
| lubuntu | alright jmarsden you've been a great help. Thank you. | 21:31 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: You're welcome. | 21:31 |
| phillw | jmarsden: do you have time for a quick PM?7 | 21:31 |
| jmarsden | phillw: Sure. | 21:31 |
| txolo | hi all. please can someone give the md5sum for perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb -- thanks! | 21:32 |
| txolo | it's dying with: | 21:33 |
| txolo | dpkg-deb (subprocess): data: internal gzip read error: '<fd:0>: invalid code lengths set' dpkg-deb: error: subprocess <decompress> returned error exit status 2 dpkg: error processing perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb (--unpack): corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive | 21:33 |
| txolo | tried 2 mirrors | 21:33 |
| txolo | must be config error of sorts? | 21:34 |
| txolo | i have ec2ffdab03276ea1fa2fcd1e90cd399f (md5sum) | 21:35 |
| txolo | anyone? pretty please? | 21:39 |
| txolo | :) | 21:39 |
| jmarsden | d3daf7c546b278a57b3bd3590627f901 /var/cache/apt/archives/perl_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_i386.deb | 21:40 |
| txolo | ta | 21:41 |
| jmarsden | Oh.. that lacks the all... wait a sec... | 21:41 |
| txolo | thanks a lot jmarsden | 21:41 |
| szczur_ | i got 18f1a19ecbfcb8ccb6f5f6cc5d2ca77d perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb and downloaded it from http://mirrors.rit.edu/ubuntu//pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb | 21:42 |
| jmarsden | 18f1a19ecbfcb8ccb6f5f6cc5d2ca77d /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb | 21:43 |
| jmarsden | Good, szczur_ and I agree :) | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | Same here | 21:44 |
| txolo | thanks | 21:44 |
| txolo | so both the us and za mirrors are fubar or the proxy is... | 21:44 |
| jmarsden | txolo: Where exactly did you download it from? | 21:46 |
| txolo | from: archive,ubuntu.com | 21:47 |
| kill3 | Why there is only minimal install, no alternate install for lubuntu? | 21:47 |
| txolo | (it looks like) | 21:47 |
| jmarsden | kill3: Because we created out own ISO creation script and have not yet worked on the alternate installer stuff... are you able to help with that? | 21:48 |
| txolo | jmarsden: i get the same md5sum from rit.edu | 21:48 |
| txolo | what gives? | 21:48 |
| jmarsden | Then it is your proxy, I suspect. wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//pool/main/p/perl/perl-modules_5.10.1-17ubuntu4.1_all.deb gives me the right thing. | 21:49 |
| txolo | ok, trying | 21:49 |
| kill3 | jmarsden: No, I'm sorry, but imo alternate installer is more needed than minimal, because it is easier to use. (like in my case there is no driver for wlan) | 21:50 |
| jmarsden | kill3: There is a session at UDS this coming week to try to get Lubuntu access to official Ubuntu build resources which should help with all of this... | 21:51 |
| txolo | used wget. same md5sum of ec2ffdab03276ea1fa2fcd1e90cd399f | 21:51 |
| txolo | ARGH! | 21:51 |
| jmarsden | kill3: In some ways, minimal is "more needed" because the main use for it is low RAM machines that other installers fail on. and Lubuntu is often uses on older PCs with very little RAM. | 21:52 |
| jmarsden | txolo: Your proxy. Can you get around it? Can you ssh out? I can make the file available for sftp or scp download for you if needed? | 21:52 |
| txolo | can ssh | 21:52 |
| txolo | please do | 21:52 |
| txolo | i must report this upstream | 21:53 |
| txolo | if it is the proxy | 21:53 |
| txolo | v bad | 21:53 |
| kill3 | jmarsden: Yes, in my case I had to use Ubuntu alternate installer and then download lubuntu-desktop. | 21:53 |
| jmarsden | txolo: OK. | 21:53 |
| jmarsden | kill3: OK, so that worked for you, glad you found a way to make Lubuntu happen on your machine. Do you like it now it is installed? | 21:54 |
| kill3 | Yes, I tried Ubuntu just for fun like 5mins with it, I had to boot the computer because it did just freeze when I opened Mozilla Firefox and libreoffice. Lubuntu runs really good on it. | 21:56 |
| jmarsden | kill3: Great! If you find any bugs, do report them for us so we can make it even better :) | 21:56 |
| lubuntu | jmarsden: where I can find help for lubuntu because I went to www.lubuntu.com main site and it sure did't have alot to offer: it refered me to #lubuntu live chat! | 21:56 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu is one starting point. | 21:57 |
| lubuntu | ty | 21:58 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: You're welcome. | 21:58 |
| bioterror | lubuntu.net is more correct | 21:59 |
| bioterror | we aint commercial! | 21:59 |
| lubuntu | lol | 21:59 |
| lubuntu | Jmarsden: I went to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu but again it don't have alot to offer ... | 22:04 |
| jmarsden | What are you actually looking for? | 22:05 |
| lubuntu | help like from A to Z like in windows including commands like with DOS | 22:05 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: That is not Lubuntu specific. have you read the usual beginners info on Linux? | 22:10 |
| jmarsden | http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html | 22:11 |
| jmarsden | http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html | 22:11 |
| lubuntu | and here It finished checking blocks and here what I got /dev/sdal: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/sdal: 110317/4907008 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 1220608/19626752 blocks | 22:12 |
| jmarsden | Those should keep you busy for a while :) | 22:12 |
| jmarsden | Before that summary line, did it say it found any bad blocks? | 22:12 |
| lubuntu | Jmarsden: nope, I'm a newbie :) | 22:12 |
| jmarsden | Ok, read those to get yourself started :) | 22:13 |
| lubuntu | jmarsden: no, it just said updating bad blocks inode. | 22:14 |
| jmarsden | OK, so... you're probably OK for now. But if the disk is failing, which SMART errors definitely suggest it is... find a new disk soon! | 22:15 |
| jmarsden | Meanwhile, if you care about the data on this machine, make frequent backups. | 22:17 |
| txolo | fading - got to crash - late here - thanks for help all | 22:18 |
| lubuntu | I got it. It is a modest desktop that my wife got from her aunt with 512 mb ram and 80 GB disk space and I searched and found that lubuntu is the best pick for older computers so... | 22:19 |
| lubuntu | ya, I got you jmarsden and I really appreciate all your good work :) | 22:20 |
| jmarsden | lubuntu: You're welcome. | 22:20 |
| lubuntu | Jmarsden: you have a very nice day now and thanks alot again. | 22:23 |
| kill3 | Poor me, I tried this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde and something went wrong and I guess I have to use that Ubuntu alternate cd again | 23:07 |
| kill3 | Which one I should pick up when computer asked me about gdm or other? | 23:08 |
| jmarsden | kill3: It is generally safer to stick to official Ubuntu information sources -- man pages, help.ubuntu.com, etc. Not random web sites... | 23:09 |
| jmarsden | Does it have an option of using lxdm ? | 23:09 |
| jmarsden | kill3: Your install approach is a bit "non-standard", so you will want to document how you are doing it... for yourself, and ideally so you can write up a wiki page about it for others with similar needs, later on. | 23:10 |
| kill3 | jmarsden: So I should have picked up lxdm? | 23:16 |
| jmarsden | lxdm is the one that Lubuntu uses, so I think so. I have not tried your install method for Lubuntu myself. | 23:16 |
| WiZ | why do you need to install from alternate? | 23:18 |
| kosaidpo| | hello guys | 23:20 |
| kill3 | There is no enough RAM on the computer and wlan driver wont work | 23:20 |
| kosaidpo| | is there any trick to get video thumbnails in pcmanfm ?? tnx | 23:20 |
| fitus | hello everyone | 23:22 |
| kosaidpo| | fitus: hello | 23:23 |
| fitus | I have a question I upgraded to lubuntu 11.04 and I want to uninstall transmission, but it says that will also uninstall lubuntu-desktop | 23:23 |
| fitus | is it right to continue? | 23:24 |
| WiZ | how much RAM, kill3 | 23:24 |
| kill3 | 256MB | 23:25 |
| jmarsden | fitus: That's fine, lubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package to help install all the Lubuntu desktop packages. | 23:25 |
| kosaidpo| | fitus: its okay i have done it many time | 23:25 |
| fitus | ok | 23:25 |
| fitus | I was afraid that I was gonna end without desktop | 23:25 |
| WiZ | if you already have a swap partition you can install from the lubuntu disk | 23:25 |
| fitus | thanks | 23:25 |
| kill3 | I dont have, lubuntu is going to be alone on that 11 years old laptop | 23:26 |
| WiZ | well you can create a swap partition with the gparted cd or with puppy and then just choose the install option from the boot menu in lubuntu | 23:28 |
| kill3 | Nah, I think I just use Ubuntu alternate cd | 23:31 |
| WiZ | okay but it installs fine as I'm on a 11 year old PII here too | 23:32 |
| kill3 | I'll try it if I dont manage to install in this way. | 23:38 |
| WiZ | :) | 23:42 |
| WiZ | hmmm where is the quick search field gone in synaptic? | 23:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | Gone or disabled? ;) | 23:47 |
| MrChrisDruif | WiZ: ^ | 23:48 |
| WiZ | gone | 23:49 |
| WiZ | I installed apt-xapian-index but there is no field | 23:50 |
| WiZ | not greyed out, just not there | 23:50 |
| MrChrisDruif | Weird...did it disappear after installing it? Did you try logging in and out? Also ran the index for the first time? | 23:51 |
| WiZ | ahhhhh it's back after quitting and restarting synaptic lol | 23:51 |
| MrChrisDruif | xD | 23:52 |
| MrChrisDruif | It probably didn't like being enabled...you installed it from within synaptic I think? | 23:53 |
| WiZ | yeah | 23:53 |
| MrChrisDruif | That's why it didn't happen to me...I installed it through terminal :) | 23:54 |
| WiZ | well I thought it may have not installed correctly so tried apt-get install and it said I already had latest version | 23:55 |
| WiZ | anyway working now lol | 23:55 |
| MrChrisDruif | WiZ: Why don't you join us on -offtopic? :) | 23:57 |
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