[16:01]  * darkmatter demands medical grade cannabis from coz_ :O
[16:01] <darkmatter> good morning btw :)
[16:02] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy  thanks,, same to you :)
[16:02]  * darkmatter is reading lab/clinical test reports that show THC attacks cancer cells
[16:03] <darkmatter> now why the **** are governments not funding research for it?
[16:05] <coz_> darkmatter,  because we live in a capitolistic society,, if cancer is cured millions of people lose thier jobs
[16:05] <coz_> darkmatter,  i have a very dim view of t his country in terms of its dedication to actually cure diseases
[16:05] <darkmatter> even ured some. not enough of a percentage to be a 'miracle cure' (as of yet). but enough to spark medical excitement.
[16:05] <darkmatter> more research would = a potential derivative application
[16:06] <darkmatter> since drinking hemp oil has the same effect. it's not about THC in the "stoner" sense
[16:07] <coz_> darkmatter,  although,,, I did see on TED  a group of scientists who condemn  treating cancer as in infectious disease when  it is in fact the body itself doing this,,, they  believe ,, with some knowkedgeable info,, that it is the proteins in the body that have stopped talking to eachother  that causes this and are working towards the ability to correct that mis communication
[16:07] <darkmatter> coz_: even benign tumors and lesions. it appears to reverse genetic damage to an extent
[16:07] <darkmatter> crazy stuff
[16:08] <coz_> darkmatter,   I dont know how you deal with this,,, it has to be a haunting experience
[16:08] <darkmatter> coz_: it's base protiens. the DNA of the cell actually mutates
[16:09] <coz_> darkmatter,  right and these guys want to correct the protein communication,, both nutritionally and pharmaceuticaly
[16:10] <darkmatter> coz_: results in that cell (and it's offshots) not performing their given task in the grand scheme of the body. it also lengthens the lifespan of such cells, which is normally abrupt, to almost indefinite length
[16:10] <darkmatter> thus the tumors
[16:11] <coz_> darkmatter,  I admire your ability to deal with this
[16:12] <darkmatter> defective cell reproduce more raidly then they die off, replacing healthy tissue as other cells hit the limits of their lifespan
[16:12] <darkmatter> coz_: lol. I always find that reaction from people funny for some reason
[16:12] <darkmatter> for me its just the way it is
[16:12] <darkmatter> dunno why. I'm just like that
[16:13] <darkmatter> though I do get nerved up on the rare occasion
[16:13] <coz_> darkmatter,  yes I understand that ,, and probably would be so for me,, its just I saw my sister going through this ,, but that cancer was far too virulent
[16:13] <darkmatter> usually when I notice some change in the body. but that's a natural reaction
[16:14] <darkmatter> coz_: err... your sister died? :(
[16:14] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah a few weeks ago.. pancretic cancer
[16:14] <darkmatter> my condolences
[16:14] <coz_> darkmatter,  she was told about a month ago,, and two weeks later she died
[16:15] <coz_> darkmatter,  it went from a spot on here pancreas  to entire body including the brain in 3 weeks
[16:15] <coz_> it was awful.. she was in so much pain,,, terrible
[16:16] <darkmatter> I guy I'm kinda friends with (you usually get to know some fellow ppatients quite well, since you see so much of eachother at clinic) was scheduled for a stemcell, but turned out his last chemo didn't work. saw him last appointment, was really down. they were getting ready to hit him with a Hail Mary. if it didn't work, he said they were guestimating 6 months :/
[16:16] <darkmatter> a guy*
[16:17] <coz_> oh man  it is absolutely terrible,,, I just dont think this government/ medical   are interested in a cure
[16:18] <coz_> I hope I am wrong
[16:19] <darkmatter> coz_: yeah. pancreatic is terrible. so is colon
[16:19] <darkmatter> two of my mom's cousins (brother and sister) had it. Mary pulled though after her surgery, but Andrei.. well.. it went ballistic _really_ fast. best they could do was try to keep him comfortable
[16:19] <coz_> darkmatter,  there is always the Geson treatment
[16:19] <coz_> Gerson
[16:20] <darkmatter> coz_: I remember the news, late 80's. they found a cure for a particular type of brain cancer. all clinical tests succeeded. but then *poof*
[16:20] <darkmatter> nothing
[16:20] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah see,, thats my problem with this particular society
[16:20] <coz_> darkmatter,  something works and then "poof"  nothing
[16:20] <darkmatter> so, I'm kinda pessimistic regarding full on cures _ever_ becoming a reality
[16:21] <coz_> darkmatter, ` have you heard of Dr. Gerson?
[16:21] <darkmatter> since most of that research happens in the US
[16:21] <darkmatter> coz_: sounds familiar
[16:21] <darkmatter> but not 100% sure atm
[16:21] <coz_> http://www.hulu.com/watch/180363/the-gerson-miracle
[16:21] <darkmatter> probably the lack of caffeine in my system ;)
[16:21]  * darkmatter clicks
[16:22] <coz_> darkmatter,  not too far off on that caffeine thing,, watch that movie
[16:22] <coz_> darkmatter,  there are questionable parts in that film but overall ,, very intriguing
[16:24] <darkmatter> coz_: bah. hulu doesn't stream to canada. lol
[16:24] <darkmatter> I mean, seriously, wth? we're far less anal about content and crap than the US
[16:24] <darkmatter> o.O
[16:24] <coz_> darkmatter,  you are in canada???
[16:24] <darkmatter> ya
[16:24] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh man where is my head
[16:24] <coz_> darkmatter,  they dont stream up there?
[16:25] <darkmatter> coz_: about 2 hours north of the border
[16:25] <darkmatter> coz_: apparently not. they gave me a popup :(
[16:25] <coz_> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5059144
[16:25] <darkmatter> that'll do it ;)
[16:26] <coz_> darkmatter,  please watch that,, I am interested in your opinion and how it rates with  you
[16:26] <coz_> darkmatter,  I wanted my sister to go there but of course  she took too long to decide on any treatment
[16:26] <coz_> none of which would have worked anyway
[16:27] <darkmatter> coz_: yup. will do. transmission is currently living in the shells message tray ;)
[16:27] <coz_> darkmatter,  the movie is titled     The Gerson Miracle   if that torrent doesnt work
[16:28] <darkmatter> yup
[16:28]  * darkmatter loves transmission
[16:29] <darkmatter> lightweight. works as advertised.
[16:29] <coz_> darkmatter,  the priceedure ,, it seems.. would take quite a bit of  courage to switch from Medical options to the gerson method for the individual
[16:29] <darkmatter> may not be the most feature rich client, but it does what _I_ need it to
[16:29] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah I like transmission myself
[16:29] <coz_> procedure I meant
[16:30] <darkmatter> coz_: I'll check it out and weigh in on my opinion after the torrent finishes, and maybe a short nap in a few hours.
[16:31] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah sleep is definitly always a good thing :)
[16:31] <coz_> darkmatter,  but I am interested in your perspective on the film
[16:31] <darkmatter> coz_: and regarding transmission. awesome example of why more BeOS software should be ported to nix ;)
[16:31] <coz_> :)  for sure !!!!!!!!
[16:32] <darkmatter> since that was it's original home turf
[16:32] <darkmatter> yellow tabs!
[16:32] <coz_> darkmatter,  wow you just broght back a memory of that ,, I forgot about it
[16:35] <darkmatter> coz_: "simple yet effective" was my favorite feature of such software.
[16:36] <darkmatter> gnome3 is headed in that direction.
[16:36] <darkmatter> as I stated before. regardless of your personal  opinions on shell/mutter, the application front of gnome3 is starting to remind me of the yellow tabbed wonderdog :)
[16:36] <coz_> darkmatter,  If my nephew,, or If I could find the corporate edition of BeOs  with its java implimentation,, I might switch and easily convince sam to port compiz to it lol
[16:36] <coz_> darkmatter,  my nephew has a copy and has never allowed me to use it ,, damn relatives
[16:36] <darkmatter> lol
[16:37] <coz_> darkmatter,  he used to work for Allegheny Ludlum Steel who still uses  BeOs in the manufacturing line
[16:37] <coz_> among other OS's
[16:37] <darkmatter> coz_: I'm still waiting for Haiku to become useful (and multiuser). I vm it occasionally. has a long way to go
[16:37] <darkmatter> but is loking good for what it is
[16:37] <darkmatter> looking*
[16:37] <coz_> darkmatter,  yeah for sure ,, I am just concerened about java implimentation
[16:38] <darkmatter> coz_: aye. and flash. they're using the craptastic GNU bits for both :(
[16:38] <coz_> for sure
[16:39] <darkmatter> webpositive is looking good though
[16:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  they did port part of KDE  to haiku if I am not mistaken
[16:39] <coz_> at least the appearance of windows,, not sure ,, havent done that much searching about haiku at this point
[16:39] <darkmatter> coz_: yup. including a theme engine to give it a fully native look
[16:39] <darkmatter> sans icons atm
[16:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  ah cool
[16:40] <darkmatter> but ♥
[16:40] <coz_> :)
[16:40] <darkmatter> they also have gtk apps on haiku, but don't think they've themed them yet
[16:41] <darkmatter> so a fair selection of familar doftware
[16:42] <darkmatter> stupid fingers...
[16:42] <coz_> :)
[16:43] <darkmatter> coz_: but imo, haiku isn't viable as a desktop OS as of yet, mainly because of the lacking multiuser support
[16:43] <coz_> darkmatter,  oh thats not good news,,, damn ,, does Palm still own the rights to Be?
[16:43] <coz_> darkmatter,  why the hell dont they just open source the damn thing
[16:43] <darkmatter> coz_: as far as I know
[16:44] <coz_> we would all be appreciative :)
[16:44] <darkmatter> coz_: indeed. they freeload off of open source. they should repay us in BeBits!
[16:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  absolutely,, I love  BeBits :)
[16:45] <coz_> greetings
[16:45] <coz_> greetings again
[16:45] <coz_> bluebomber,  greetings to you as well
[16:46] <darkmatter> coz_: I'm going to do several themes for shell/mutter/gtk3 and 2
[16:46] <darkmatter> one of them shall be very modern, yet Be inspired
[16:46] <bluebomber> Thanks, coz_
[16:46] <darkmatter> shell will still be black though
[16:46] <coz_> darkmatter,  ooo cool... I have only seen one theme for gnome3   but  I still think it way way too young to bother with :)
[16:46] <darkmatter> 'ello bluebomber
[16:47] <bluebomber> Hi, darkmatter
[16:47] <coz_> marcushaslam,  a welcome to you
[16:47] <coz_> ivanka,   another welcome to you as well
[16:49] <darkmatter> coz_: well. I was intending to get seriously involved on the design from before that recurrence I had. so am planning to know. so kinda need g3, mature or not.
[16:49] <darkmatter> the theme bits are mainly personal. plus one as a suggestion for openSUSE default (they had a meeting in oS-gnome. part of it calling for distro branding for gnome), plus going to be working on the gtk2 implementation of Adwaita (that ones pretty high on the list, since want it ready by 3.2)
[16:50] <darkmatter> since currently gtk2 uses clearlooks with Addy like padding, so looks outr of place
[16:50] <coz_> cool
[16:50] <marcushaslam> coz: thanks
[16:51] <coz_> darkmatter,  I have to break here,, be back in a bit
[16:51] <darkmatter> coz_: so, small bit vanilla gnome, bigger bit oS-gnome (since it's all bits except icons) and a bunch of "because I have better aesthetics taste than you!" bits :P
[16:52] <darkmatter> crap. just missed that one -_-