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mhall119shutting down, see you guys in Budapest03:26
pleia2see you, mhall119!03:26
IdleOnehave a good time mhall11905:34
vishjcastro: maybe we should mention who is supposed to check the "Participation essential" for blueprints..05:48
vishthere seem to be a lot of remote participants selecting that.. auto-scheduler is going to go crazy :p05:49
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nigelbhello06:28
nigelbbah, IRC is a lonely place at this time of the day...06:32
AlanBelljust added some more words to http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk08:53
head_victimvish: what is the "participation essential" thing anyway, I couldn't work it out so I just tick yes just in case.09:09
AlanBellargh09:10
AlanBelldon't do that head_victim09:10
head_victimAlanBell: I couldn't work out if it was needed or not09:10
head_victimCan I untick it anywhere?09:10
AlanBellif there is a session where you fully expect to be standing up front and leading the conversation then tick it09:10
AlanBellif you are going to be sitting a few rows back and listening attentively and throwing in the occasional comment then don't tick it09:11
Pendulumhead_victim: 'participation essential' means that you must be present for the discussion because you are leading/have information that must be discussed/are a vital role in whatever the session is discussing09:11
head_victimIf I unsubscribe and resubscribe and not tick it will that fix it?09:12
Pendulumchecking it a lot throws off Summit because then it has to move things so that there aren't 2 sessions at the same time where you're listed as essential at both09:12
PendulumI think so09:12
head_victimOk it's only 2 blueprints I'm subbed to so easy to do if that will fix it09:13
Pendulumah, that's not so bad09:13
Pendulum(usually people are subbed to loads which is why it's not good to check it on all of them)09:13
head_victimOk well I'll do that in the hopes it fixes my error09:13
AlanBellnot a big deal if is is just two09:14
head_victimOh if you hit unsubscribe it gives you the option to untick it and then update it09:14
head_victimEven easier09:14
AlanBelland if it was just one then it would have no effect at all09:14
head_victimDone.09:14
head_victimI had that on a list of things to ask about09:15
head_victimGlad it was brought up here09:15
AlanBell:)09:15
head_victimIt was one of those "well if I don't tick it now will that mean I can't later? If I tick it now what happens? Oh crap I'll just tick it"09:15
Pendulumwhen I'm physically at UDS, I tend to check it for everything a11y related, but I'm not sure I've ever sat in an a11y-related session and not opened my mouth09:16
head_victimYeah see I'm not even physically attending09:16
vishjcastro: see ^  :p10:04
vishyea, the wording itself is a bit ambiguous for that option..10:05
head_victimvish: Sorry for the hassles but hopefully it's brought the issue to light a bit. I feel a bit stupid now mind you.10:09
vishhead_victim: nah,np.. even i used to do it earlier.. until i knew what it was for.. :)10:09
head_victimvish: definitely something that could be reworded then :)10:10
vishit says something like "if you want to be included in all discussions about this feature".. ofcourse anyone wants to be included! :D10:11
head_victimYeah and discussion could mean mailing list discussion10:11
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nigelbhello hello12:10
AlanBellhi nigelb12:10
AlanBellwhere in the world are you?12:10
nigelbAlanBell, sorry, connection bored12:20
nigelbI remember replying one line to you, not sure if you got anything afterward12:20
AlanBellwhere in the world are you?12:20
nigelbDelhi :)12:20
AlanBellah ok12:20
AlanBellwhen do you get to Budapest?12:20
nigelbGot my passport \o/12:20
AlanBellyay12:20
nigelbI'll get there 10:30 am local time sunday12:21
nigelbjust found out, the canonical employee who's visa also got approved along with me got his visa start date as 9th12:21
nigelbwhich means he'll probably have to reschedule :(12:21
Pendulumoh dear12:21
nigelbHe called me to check mine in case I had such misforture12:21
AlanBellouch12:21
AlanBellI would go anyway and try and get through12:22
AlanBelldeny noticing12:22
nigelbI'm not sure if that helps though12:22
AlanBellI doubt anyone would check the start date of a visa12:22
nigelbhrm, the countries I visited, they always gave you visa as a paper and when you landed there, they wrote the start and end date12:23
AlanBellend date, maybe12:23
nigelbbut I guess that's specific to GCC countries12:23
PendulumAlanBell: oh, I'm sure they would check it12:23
nigelbok, if I go offline either my battery is out OR I finished the free wi-fi periood12:23
Pendulumprobably worse if  he were going to the US12:23
Pendulumbut I'm sure it's checked12:24
nigelbI don't mind paying but I will when I get to a charging point for power12:24
nigelbeven if we don't, I'm sure immigration officials glance at it12:24
nigelbIt would be horrible to be extradited back.12:24
AlanBellI once went through heathrow passport control using theopensourcerer's passport12:25
PendulumAlanBell: you're also British and sound British and white12:26
nigelbAlanBell,  what in the....12:26
Pendulumand while still risky, they're not going to check you as much12:26
AlanBellPendulum: yeah, fair point12:26
AlanBellnigelb: we went to the bank to open a business account and the bank manager checked both our passports, then handed them back . . .12:27
AlanBellnext day I went to Germany for something12:27
nigelbAlanBell, they didn't check at Germany OR London?12:27
nigelbAlanBell, wow, that12:27
nigelb*that's strange12:27
AlanBellgot my passport checked and was waved through and as the passport control chap handed back my passport I noticed the picture was wearing red, when I was sure I was wearing blue12:28
AlanBellI wondered round the corner and checked and it was the wrong one!12:28
AlanBellI phoned Al, who luckily was in and could come to Heathrow to swap them over12:28
nigelbheh12:29
AlanBellthen I went back to passport control and explained the error *they* had made12:29
nigelbAlso, the thing where you have the escalator like thingy but not stairs, is scary12:29
AlanBellthey were totally cool with sorting it out without filling in any forms ;)12:29
nigelbthe girl in front of me had her shoe laces stuck in it12:29
nigelbI hit her trolley and sort of fell down12:29
nigelbTook a minute for all of us to recover.  Thankfully, no injuries12:30
nigelbaha14:45
nigelbfinally got a place to charge the laptop14:46
nigelband bought wifi :)14:46
waseemhey guys15:38
waseemcan't install ubuntu 11.04 on my sony vaio cr, it tell me after boot uncompression error15:39
waseemany idea?15:39
AlanBelltry asking in #ubuntu15:39
waseemwhy can't in here?15:40
AlanBellthis is an admin channel not a support channel15:40
waseemoh sorry and thanks for the guide15:40
AlanBellno problem15:41
nigelbbah16:07
nigelbI'm totally bored16:07
popey:)16:11
paultagMorning, all16:40
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AlanBellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/linaro-kernel-o-storage-performance-3/ summit hackers might want to have a look at that21:10
AlanBellnot sure if it is a bug in my code or a data issue21:10
cjohnstonAlanBell: still around?23:06
AlanBellyup23:06
cjohnstonthats odd that 1 and 2 work, but not three23:07
cjohnstonon summit23:07
cjohnstonalso23:07
cjohnstondo you see the issue with the text behind the pad?23:07
cjohnstonaand why do roundtables not have pads23:08
AlanBellsome funky stuff happens occasionally with that pad server23:08
AlanBellno idea, a load of things lost their pad links yesterday23:09
AlanBellthere are two sessions with the slug linaro-kernel-o-storage-performance-323:09
cjohnstonthats the problem then23:09
AlanBellmonday 12:00 and wednesday 16:1523:10
AlanBellthe monday one should really be changed I guess23:10
AlanBellI am a bit worried about that etherpad server tbh23:11
cjohnstoni dont see one monday at noon23:11
AlanBellhttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/track/linaro-kernel/23:11
cjohnstonI dont see a 3 on the one monday23:12
AlanBellI went through all the sessions on monday creating the pad and putting in hash tags for all the morning session23:12
AlanBellthe slug is a 323:12
cjohnstono23:12
cjohnstoni see that now23:12
cjohnstonjoey: james_w` jcastro pign23:13
cjohnstonping too23:13
cjohnstonor Daviey23:13
AlanBellhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/revision/9723:13
AlanBellthat was Daviey making the pad link conditional23:13
cjohnstonso it sounds like there is a way to define if a session has a pad?23:15
AlanBelllooks like it only shows up when there is an associated blueprint23:15
cjohnstonI disagree with that23:16
AlanBelldisagree with the policy or my interpretation of the code?23:16
cjohnstonpolicy23:16
AlanBellyeah, I am not convinced either23:17
cjohnstonI would say private no pad23:17
cjohnstonand maybe plenary no pad23:17
cjohnstonthis is why making all these changes last minute sucks soo bad23:18
AlanBellsounds fair23:18
nhandlerI'd personally be in favor of a pad for all of them. It gives everyone a place to put the notes, which is quite useful for people following remotely (especially if the videos take a long time like last time)23:18
cjohnstonother than private meetings ^23:18
nhandlerYep (unless you could setup the pads to be private in some way)23:22
cjohnstonnot this late id say23:22
AlanBellnot with no access to the pad server23:25
AlanBellI don't even know who installed it or has access to it23:26
AlanBellwould like the hashtag plugin to be turned on, elmo said:23:26
AlanBell22:30 #canonical-sysadmin: < elmo> AlanBell: I'll ask someone to look into it tomorrow, if time permits (we'll be very busy with the rest of the setup)23:26
AlanBellit would have been nice to do the theme thing for the pad, but I think there is no chance of getting anything deployed to it23:29
cjohnston:-/23:32
cjohnstondo we have a theme AlanBell23:35
AlanBellnot sure, nigelb was working on one23:35
cjohnstongotcha23:36
AlanBellI could do one fairly quickly I expect23:36
cjohnstonbe awesome if the text behind the pad was gone23:36
AlanBellthat will go if you refresh a few times23:36
AlanBellI think they have messed something up23:37
cjohnstonI have issues with all sorts of the light-django-theme... so I figure the issues with everything else may be me too23:37
AlanBellI don't know if they have tried to be smart and do some load balancing or caching thing23:38
cjohnstonI've had some issues since one of my upgrades on natty back a few months ago23:38
AlanBellhttp://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-o-desktop-o-ubuntuone-improve-unity-integration?theme=micro23:39
AlanBellif you refresh you get different stuff each time23:39
cjohnstonhave you asked elmo about it23:40
AlanBellnot yet, only just figured out it wasn't just me, I spent most of the day reinstalling my laptop to go from 32bit to 64bit23:41
cjohnstongotchha23:43

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