[03:26] <mhall119> shutting down, see you guys in Budapest
[03:26] <pleia2> see you, mhall119!
[05:34] <IdleOne> have a good time mhall119
[05:48] <vish> jcastro: maybe we should mention who is supposed to check the "Participation essential" for blueprints..
[05:49] <vish> there seem to be a lot of remote participants selecting that.. auto-scheduler is going to go crazy :p
[06:28] <nigelb> hello
[06:32] <nigelb> bah, IRC is a lonely place at this time of the day...
[08:53] <AlanBell> just added some more words to http://ubingo.libertus.co.uk
[09:09] <head_victim> vish: what is the "participation essential" thing anyway, I couldn't work it out so I just tick yes just in case.
[09:10] <AlanBell> argh
[09:10] <AlanBell> don't do that head_victim
[09:10] <head_victim> AlanBell: I couldn't work out if it was needed or not
[09:10] <head_victim> Can I untick it anywhere?
[09:10] <AlanBell> if there is a session where you fully expect to be standing up front and leading the conversation then tick it
[09:11] <AlanBell> if you are going to be sitting a few rows back and listening attentively and throwing in the occasional comment then don't tick it
[09:11] <Pendulum> head_victim: 'participation essential' means that you must be present for the discussion because you are leading/have information that must be discussed/are a vital role in whatever the session is discussing
[09:12] <head_victim> If I unsubscribe and resubscribe and not tick it will that fix it?
[09:12] <Pendulum> checking it a lot throws off Summit because then it has to move things so that there aren't 2 sessions at the same time where you're listed as essential at both
[09:12] <Pendulum> I think so
[09:13] <head_victim> Ok it's only 2 blueprints I'm subbed to so easy to do if that will fix it
[09:13] <Pendulum> ah, that's not so bad
[09:13] <Pendulum> (usually people are subbed to loads which is why it's not good to check it on all of them)
[09:13] <head_victim> Ok well I'll do that in the hopes it fixes my error
[09:14] <AlanBell> not a big deal if is is just two
[09:14] <head_victim> Oh if you hit unsubscribe it gives you the option to untick it and then update it
[09:14] <head_victim> Even easier
[09:14] <AlanBell> and if it was just one then it would have no effect at all
[09:14] <head_victim> Done.
[09:15] <head_victim> I had that on a list of things to ask about
[09:15] <head_victim> Glad it was brought up here
[09:15] <AlanBell> :)
[09:15] <head_victim> It was one of those "well if I don't tick it now will that mean I can't later? If I tick it now what happens? Oh crap I'll just tick it"
[09:16] <Pendulum> when I'm physically at UDS, I tend to check it for everything a11y related, but I'm not sure I've ever sat in an a11y-related session and not opened my mouth
[09:16] <head_victim> Yeah see I'm not even physically attending
[10:04] <vish> jcastro: see ^  :p
[10:05] <vish> yea, the wording itself is a bit ambiguous for that option..
[10:09] <head_victim> vish: Sorry for the hassles but hopefully it's brought the issue to light a bit. I feel a bit stupid now mind you.
[10:09] <vish> head_victim: nah,np.. even i used to do it earlier.. until i knew what it was for.. :)
[10:10] <head_victim> vish: definitely something that could be reworded then :)
[10:11] <vish> it says something like "if you want to be included in all discussions about this feature".. ofcourse anyone wants to be included! :D
[10:11] <head_victim> Yeah and discussion could mean mailing list discussion
[12:10] <nigelb> hello hello
[12:10] <AlanBell> hi nigelb
[12:10] <AlanBell> where in the world are you?
[12:20] <nigelb> AlanBell, sorry, connection bored
[12:20] <nigelb> I remember replying one line to you, not sure if you got anything afterward
[12:20] <AlanBell> where in the world are you?
[12:20] <nigelb> Delhi :)
[12:20] <AlanBell> ah ok
[12:20] <AlanBell> when do you get to Budapest?
[12:20] <nigelb> Got my passport \o/
[12:20] <AlanBell> yay
[12:21] <nigelb> I'll get there 10:30 am local time sunday
[12:21] <nigelb> just found out, the canonical employee who's visa also got approved along with me got his visa start date as 9th
[12:21] <nigelb> which means he'll probably have to reschedule :(
[12:21] <Pendulum> oh dear
[12:21] <nigelb> He called me to check mine in case I had such misforture
[12:21] <AlanBell> ouch
[12:22] <AlanBell> I would go anyway and try and get through
[12:22] <AlanBell> deny noticing
[12:22] <nigelb> I'm not sure if that helps though
[12:22] <AlanBell> I doubt anyone would check the start date of a visa
[12:23] <nigelb> hrm, the countries I visited, they always gave you visa as a paper and when you landed there, they wrote the start and end date
[12:23] <AlanBell> end date, maybe
[12:23] <nigelb> but I guess that's specific to GCC countries
[12:23] <Pendulum> AlanBell: oh, I'm sure they would check it
[12:23] <nigelb> ok, if I go offline either my battery is out OR I finished the free wi-fi periood
[12:23] <Pendulum> probably worse if  he were going to the US
[12:24] <Pendulum> but I'm sure it's checked
[12:24] <nigelb> I don't mind paying but I will when I get to a charging point for power
[12:24] <nigelb> even if we don't, I'm sure immigration officials glance at it
[12:24] <nigelb> It would be horrible to be extradited back.
[12:25] <AlanBell> I once went through heathrow passport control using theopensourcerer's passport
[12:26] <Pendulum> AlanBell: you're also British and sound British and white
[12:26] <nigelb> AlanBell,  what in the....
[12:26] <Pendulum> and while still risky, they're not going to check you as much
[12:26] <AlanBell> Pendulum: yeah, fair point
[12:27] <AlanBell> nigelb: we went to the bank to open a business account and the bank manager checked both our passports, then handed them back . . .
[12:27] <AlanBell> next day I went to Germany for something
[12:27] <nigelb> AlanBell, they didn't check at Germany OR London?
[12:27] <nigelb> AlanBell, wow, that
[12:27] <nigelb> *that's strange
[12:28] <AlanBell> got my passport checked and was waved through and as the passport control chap handed back my passport I noticed the picture was wearing red, when I was sure I was wearing blue
[12:28] <AlanBell> I wondered round the corner and checked and it was the wrong one!
[12:28] <AlanBell> I phoned Al, who luckily was in and could come to Heathrow to swap them over
[12:29] <nigelb> heh
[12:29] <AlanBell> then I went back to passport control and explained the error *they* had made
[12:29] <nigelb> Also, the thing where you have the escalator like thingy but not stairs, is scary
[12:29] <AlanBell> they were totally cool with sorting it out without filling in any forms ;)
[12:29] <nigelb> the girl in front of me had her shoe laces stuck in it
[12:29] <nigelb> I hit her trolley and sort of fell down
[12:30] <nigelb> Took a minute for all of us to recover.  Thankfully, no injuries
[14:45] <nigelb> aha
[14:46] <nigelb> finally got a place to charge the laptop
[14:46] <nigelb> and bought wifi :)
[15:38] <waseem> hey guys
[15:39] <waseem> can't install ubuntu 11.04 on my sony vaio cr, it tell me after boot uncompression error
[15:39] <waseem> any idea?
[15:39] <AlanBell> try asking in #ubuntu
[15:40] <waseem> why can't in here?
[15:40] <AlanBell> this is an admin channel not a support channel
[15:40] <waseem> oh sorry and thanks for the guide
[15:41] <AlanBell> no problem
[16:07] <nigelb> bah
[16:07] <nigelb> I'm totally bored
[16:11] <popey> :)
[16:40] <paultag> Morning, all
[21:10] <AlanBell> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/linaro-kernel-o-storage-performance-3/ summit hackers might want to have a look at that
[21:10] <AlanBell> not sure if it is a bug in my code or a data issue
[23:06] <cjohnston> AlanBell: still around?
[23:06] <AlanBell> yup
[23:07] <cjohnston> thats odd that 1 and 2 work, but not three
[23:07] <cjohnston> on summit
[23:07] <cjohnston> also
[23:07] <cjohnston> do you see the issue with the text behind the pad?
[23:08] <cjohnston> aand why do roundtables not have pads
[23:08] <AlanBell> some funky stuff happens occasionally with that pad server
[23:09] <AlanBell> no idea, a load of things lost their pad links yesterday
[23:09] <AlanBell> there are two sessions with the slug linaro-kernel-o-storage-performance-3
[23:09] <cjohnston> thats the problem then
[23:10] <AlanBell> monday 12:00 and wednesday 16:15
[23:10] <AlanBell> the monday one should really be changed I guess
[23:11] <AlanBell> I am a bit worried about that etherpad server tbh
[23:11] <cjohnston> i dont see one monday at noon
[23:11] <AlanBell> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/track/linaro-kernel/
[23:12] <cjohnston> I dont see a 3 on the one monday
[23:12] <AlanBell> I went through all the sessions on monday creating the pad and putting in hash tags for all the morning session
[23:12] <AlanBell> the slug is a 3
[23:12] <cjohnston> o
[23:12] <cjohnston> i see that now
[23:13] <cjohnston> joey: james_w` jcastro pign
[23:13] <cjohnston> ping too
[23:13] <cjohnston> or Daviey
[23:13] <AlanBell> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/revision/97
[23:13] <AlanBell> that was Daviey making the pad link conditional
[23:15] <cjohnston> so it sounds like there is a way to define if a session has a pad?
[23:15] <AlanBell> looks like it only shows up when there is an associated blueprint
[23:16] <cjohnston> I disagree with that
[23:16] <AlanBell> disagree with the policy or my interpretation of the code?
[23:16] <cjohnston> policy
[23:17] <AlanBell> yeah, I am not convinced either
[23:17] <cjohnston> I would say private no pad
[23:17] <cjohnston> and maybe plenary no pad
[23:18] <cjohnston> this is why making all these changes last minute sucks soo bad
[23:18] <AlanBell> sounds fair
[23:18] <nhandler> I'd personally be in favor of a pad for all of them. It gives everyone a place to put the notes, which is quite useful for people following remotely (especially if the videos take a long time like last time)
[23:18] <cjohnston> other than private meetings ^
[23:22] <nhandler> Yep (unless you could setup the pads to be private in some way)
[23:22] <cjohnston> not this late id say
[23:25] <AlanBell> not with no access to the pad server
[23:26] <AlanBell> I don't even know who installed it or has access to it
[23:26] <AlanBell> would like the hashtag plugin to be turned on, elmo said:
[23:26] <AlanBell> 22:30 #canonical-sysadmin: < elmo> AlanBell: I'll ask someone to look into it tomorrow, if time permits (we'll be very busy with the rest of the setup)
[23:29] <AlanBell> it would have been nice to do the theme thing for the pad, but I think there is no chance of getting anything deployed to it
[23:32] <cjohnston> :-/
[23:35] <cjohnston> do we have a theme AlanBell
[23:35] <AlanBell> not sure, nigelb was working on one
[23:36] <cjohnston> gotcha
[23:36] <AlanBell> I could do one fairly quickly I expect
[23:36] <cjohnston> be awesome if the text behind the pad was gone
[23:36] <AlanBell> that will go if you refresh a few times
[23:37] <AlanBell> I think they have messed something up
[23:37] <cjohnston> I have issues with all sorts of the light-django-theme... so I figure the issues with everything else may be me too
[23:38] <AlanBell> I don't know if they have tried to be smart and do some load balancing or caching thing
[23:38] <cjohnston> I've had some issues since one of my upgrades on natty back a few months ago
[23:39] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-o-desktop-o-ubuntuone-improve-unity-integration?theme=micro
[23:39] <AlanBell> if you refresh you get different stuff each time
[23:40] <cjohnston> have you asked elmo about it
[23:41] <AlanBell> not yet, only just figured out it wasn't just me, I spent most of the day reinstalling my laptop to go from 32bit to 64bit
[23:43] <cjohnston> gotchha