[15:06] <jeffrash> akgraner, you around?
[15:11] <jeffrash> akgraner, what do you make of Mark Shuttleworth says power users and developers should find another Linux distro?
[15:33] <holstein> jeffrash: ?
[15:33] <holstein> that sounds like FUD
[15:33] <holstein> where/when was that
[15:33] <holstein> and in what context?
[15:33] <holstein> unity?
[15:34] <holstein> are you sure it wasnt 'power users should find another DE' ?
[16:29] <jeffrash> "Is Unity too simple for power users? Yes, it is. But, as Shuttleworth tells us that's by design. If you don't like simple, consumer-oriented desktops, you'll want to look at another Linux distribution because that's exactly where Ubuntu is now and will continue to go."
[16:30] <jeffrash> That's from one article I'm reading
[16:30] <jeffrash> http://www.itworld.com/open-source/161063/can-unity-create-first-consumer-class-linux-distro
[16:30] <jeffrash> I don't know for sure he actually said it
[16:31] <jeffrash> sorry, I just got back into my office.
[16:33] <jeffrash> http://iplextra.indiatimes.com/quote/0dbC2ZM9Z1gVR?q=Ubuntu
[16:34] <jeffrash> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-1104-linux-unity/8780
[16:36] <adam_vollrath> not a big deal.  "power users" can and do change their desktop environments.  It would take a lot more than Unity to drive them away.
[16:37] <jeffrash> I agree, as long as they don't focus all the development energy on Unity and leave other things broken
[16:37] <jeffrash> Just wanted to see what everyone thought about it here.
[16:38] <jeffrash> I was disappointed with 11.04, wireless did not work out of the box for me and I've not upgraded my primary desktop at home due to NVIDIA dual monitor issues I've read about.
[16:39] <adam_vollrath> that's kinda surprising
[16:39] <adam_vollrath> the hardware part
[16:39] <jeffrash> I agree
[16:40] <jeffrash> I've not had issues with video sense 6.06
[16:41] <jeffrash> wireless has been in and out. One release it works great and the next it's broken
[16:42] <jeffrash> I have the broardcom b4312 card in my laptop
[18:02] <jeffrash> I also don't like that they have removed things
[18:02] <jeffrash> you can't do a custom default mail application now.
[23:12] <jeffrash> holstein, you still around?
[23:52] <holstein> jeffrash: poin
[23:52] <holstein> pong*