| TheErk | Hello again. | 01:34 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Hello again! | 01:34 |
| TheErk | What a lazy day | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | Good day? | 01:37 |
| TheErk | very | 01:41 |
| canthus13 | Woo. OSX fake AV... http://www.sophos.com/en-us/threat-center/threat-analyses/viruses-and-spyware/OSX~FakeAV-A.aspx | 02:13 |
| * jgould grumbles | 02:33 | |
| shaunm | Hi all | 02:33 |
| shaunm | Is anybody in the Cincinnati area? | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | Hello shaunm | 02:34 |
| jgould | hey shaunm | 02:34 |
| jgould | stupid broadcom | 02:34 |
| jgould | So, I'm thinking about reinstalling as I've done *something to make this very unstable... | 02:39 |
| Cheri703 | heh, I know that feeling jgould | 02:40 |
| TheErk | Hello Shaunm | 02:40 |
| TheErk | And to answer your first question, i am in the cincy area | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | TheErk: Are you Cincy lead? | 02:40 |
| TheErk | Used to be. | 02:41 |
| TheErk | And as no one stepped up would be happy to be again | 02:41 |
| shaunm | there's an open source documentation conference in cincy next month. there'll be some ubuntu folks, as well as gnome, firefox, and some other projects | 02:45 |
| * jgould grabs his Xubuntu 64bit disk | 02:45 | |
| shaunm | I just through I'd spread the word to local groups | 02:45 |
| TheErk | Ooo nice | 02:45 |
| shaunm | (also tried to get info on the clug, but their website seems very inactive) | 02:45 |
| shaunm | openhelpconference.com | 02:47 |
| jgould | Now lets see if i can get this to all work again... | 02:47 |
| jgould | Anyone know what the EFI boot 'disk' does on the Xubutnu dick? | 02:48 |
| TheErk | Haven't heard from CLUG in forever | 02:48 |
| jgould | er disk | 02:48 |
| shaunm | TheErk: do they exist anymore? | 02:49 |
| jgould | apparently, it does nothing | 02:49 |
| TheErk | I honestly don't know | 02:49 |
| jgould | *ponders | 02:56 |
| jgould | damn bluetooth | 03:00 |
| Cheri703 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DiOthAKek | 03:05 |
| * jgould throws big heavy things at Broadcom | 03:11 | |
| canthus13 | beh. | 03:11 |
| * canthus13 lurves his broadcom stuff. (Well, most of it.. the 4306 is a bit flakey, but it doesn't have official linux drivers.) | 03:12 | |
| jgould | how do you have it working? | 03:12 |
| canthus13 | jgould: my 4311 and 4312 just work. | 03:13 |
| * canthus13 switched his 4312 for an Atheros chipset because the STA drivers don't do injection, but still. | 03:14 | |
| jgould | This chipset my wireless has must be brand spanking new | 03:14 |
| canthus13 | What chipset? | 03:14 |
| jgould | 4331 | 03:14 |
| canthus13 | 4331? Or 4313? | 03:15 |
| canthus13 | http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php | 03:15 |
| jgould | 4331. The STA drivers won't work | 03:15 |
| canthus13 | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/66377 | 03:16 |
| canthus13 | None yet. | 03:16 |
| canthus13 | ..and no support in b43 or brcm80211. | 03:17 |
| jgould | Not yet, I have faith in the communty though | 03:19 |
| canthus13 | Keep pestering broadcom. I don't think they expected demand for a chip that only Apple uses. | 03:19 |
| jgould | exactly | 03:20 |
| canthus13 | Oh. bcrm80211 may have something in the pipeline... | 03:21 |
| canthus13 | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.bcm54xx.devel/11526 | 03:21 |
| * jgould reads | 03:25 | |
| * jgould ponders | 03:30 | |
| jgould | Darn. The chip from my 09 MacBook won't fit | 03:33 |
| jgould | /end fit of inspiration.... | 03:36 |
| canthus13 | Need a half-height? | 03:40 |
| canthus13 | Or are the cards rigged so that only apple-approved cards will work, kinda like HP? | 03:41 |
| jgould | the latter | 03:41 |
| canthus13 | Ah. Fuckers. | 03:41 |
| jgould | http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MIYRQcks54DunO3k.huge | 03:42 |
| jgould | My MacBook from 2006 actually used a minipci card | 03:42 |
| canthus13 | oh. That's screwed up. | 03:44 |
| jgould | yeah. I have faith in the community though. | 03:44 |
| canthus13 | I'm sure someone will come up with something. :) | 03:45 |
| jgould | So am I | 03:45 |
| jgould | Hmmm.... The mirrors seem to be running slow | 03:46 |
| jgould | does it prefer eth0 over anything else when there are multiple network interfaces? | 03:47 |
| canthus13 | Probably. | 03:51 |
| canthus13 | ..Unless you set routing to prefer a different interface, anyway. | 03:52 |
| jgould | This time, I put /home on on it's own partition | 03:55 |
| canthus13 | good idea. | 03:56 |
| dmcglone1 | Hi all | 03:56 |
| canthus13 | dmcglone1: Eh? I am *NOT*!! | 03:58 |
| dmcglone1 | Huh? | 03:58 |
| canthus13 | dmcglone1: hi. | 04:00 |
| canthus13 | hi(gh) | 04:00 |
| canthus13 | Cheri703: all packed and ready? | 04:00 |
| Cheri703 | working on it :) | 04:01 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 04:01 |
| Unit193 | canthus13: Haha! I do that ALL the time! | 04:02 |
| dmcglone1 | Ah gotcha canthus13 | 04:02 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: get high? | 04:03 |
| * dmcglone1 doesn't smoke | 04:03 | |
| jgould | After enabling the ppa as shown above you can add this tool with the following command: <-- The PPA is nowhere on this page... | 04:03 |
| * canthus13 quit years and years ago. | 04:03 | |
| Unit193 | canthus13: No! That joke | 04:03 |
| canthus13 | jgould: Heh. | 04:03 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: Ah. :) | 04:03 |
| * dmcglone1 did it one time, got so high I freaked out, never smoked it again :-) | 04:04 | |
| dmcglone1 | I turned to getting high off of hackin ;-) | 04:05 |
| dmcglone1 | not the kind of hackin your thinking | 04:05 |
| dmcglone1 | I'm talking about the hackin (caughing) until you get light headed from smoking too much | 04:06 |
| dmcglone1 | :-) | 04:06 |
| jgould | I'll be editing the page to include the URL for the PPA.. | 04:08 |
| dmcglone1 | are things working good for you now | 04:10 |
| dmcglone1 | jgould: | 04:10 |
| jgould | I just reinstalled. was having really random problems | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | You now have Xubuntu 64B? | 04:11 |
| dmcglone1 | this seems like it's a nightmare for you jgould | 04:11 |
| dmcglone1 | how long you been using linux? | 04:11 |
| jgould | as a desktop OS? Since Natty relased | 04:12 |
| jgould | as a Server OS, for about 3 years | 04:12 |
| canthus13 | jgould: So you've never used a 'good' version of ubuntu? :) | 04:12 |
| dmcglone1 | Unit193: I forgot to tell you that the fstab line example I sent you doesn't auto mount | 04:12 |
| * canthus13 is liking Maverick. | 04:13 | |
| * dmcglone1 is loving Gnome3 | 04:13 | |
| jgould | Server is running 10.04 LTS | 04:14 |
| canthus13 | dmcglone1: I haven't been able to get it working well enough to decide. | 04:14 |
| * canthus13 has tried with Natty and Debian unstable. | 04:14 | |
| dmcglone1 | heck it worked out of the box for me just about | 04:14 |
| dmcglone1 | I installed Gnome 10.10 and upgraded to Gnome 3 | 04:14 |
| dmcglone1 | oops | 04:14 |
| dmcglone1 | Ubuntu 10.10 | 04:15 |
| dmcglone1 | it rocks! | 04:15 |
| dmcglone1 | even my wife is loving it1` | 04:15 |
| dmcglone1 | ! | 04:15 |
| jgould | dmcglone1: Rememeber this is a machine that was crafted to run one OS, Windows even runs quirky on it | 04:19 |
| dmcglone1 | Good to know because I'll never buy a Mac now | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | If you find the right one.... | 04:20 |
| jgould | I'll eventually hit the right combo. You can bend it to your will. XD | 04:23 |
| dmcglone1 | why go to that hassle when PC works out of the box | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | dmcglone1: Not all do | 04:24 |
| dmcglone1 | I've never had one that doesn't | 04:24 |
| dmcglone1 | I'll be back in a sec | 04:25 |
| jgould | I have... | 04:25 |
| jgould | I've had more PC's that I've just given up on with linux than the Mac... | 04:27 |
| canthus13 | jgould: direct from an apple dev: You're prolly SOL on that driver unless bcrm80211 manages to get it working as b43 has no plans for it. | 04:28 |
| dmcglone1 | Ok Unit193, here's a better fstab version: | 04:30 |
| dmcglone1 | //192.168.2.2/Documents/home/david/Documents cifs credentials=/home/david/credentials auto,user 0 0 | 04:30 |
| dmcglone1 | in the credentials file put: user=(username) and on a new line put password=(your password) and stick it in your ~ | 04:31 |
| dmcglone1 | drop the parenthesis | 04:31 |
| Unit193 | dmcglone1: I got that part (I have it in so I can just run a script at startup) | 04:32 |
| dmcglone1 | Ah cool | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | I was just too lazy to bother with the fstab part... | 04:33 |
| dmcglone1 | I like mine done before I log in, I'm lazy ;-) | 04:33 |
| dmcglone1 | I hear ya | 04:33 |
| * canthus13 needs to work out how to get his wireless to connect before login. :/ | 04:33 | |
| canthus13 | I'd like to be able to reboot my lappy over ssh and have it come back. | 04:34 |
| Unit193 | With how much I reboot, it's easy to just forget about it | 04:34 |
| dmcglone1 | canthus13: stick it in /etc/network/interfaces | 04:34 |
| canthus13 | yeah.. I just need to figure out arguments. | 04:34 |
| dmcglone1 | canthus13: wireless? | 04:35 |
| dmcglone1 | or is it wired? | 04:35 |
| canthus13 | wireless. | 04:35 |
| canthus13 | I found it.. Now, will network manager play nice with it? | 04:35 |
| dmcglone1 | it should | 04:36 |
| dmcglone1 | do you know the arguments? | 04:37 |
| canthus13 | Yup. I got 'em. :) But there might be an easier way... | 04:38 |
| dmcglone1 | I always dump network manager and use ifup/down | 04:39 |
| canthus13 | network manager is nicer for connecting to different networks. :) | 04:40 |
| dmcglone1 | I do use it for that | 04:41 |
| dmcglone1 | I don't use ifup/down on my netbook though, only on my server. I don't need it on my netbook or laptop | 04:42 |
| canthus13 | My laptop doubles as my FreeNX server, though. | 04:42 |
| dmcglone1 | I see | 04:42 |
| dmcglone1 | I have an HP Media Center for my server | 04:43 |
| dmcglone1 | it's got 2 150 Gig internal drives and a 1 TB external drive | 04:44 |
| dmcglone1 | well I'm out for the night. Night all :-) | 05:02 |
| jgould | *grumble* | 05:05 |
| jgould | I'm about to give up... | 05:07 |
| * BiosElement yawns | 05:15 | |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Wake up! You still have HOURS to go! | 05:23 |
| BiosElement | I do? >.> | 05:23 |
| Unit193 | Yep. You have to stay up 'til 4am | 05:25 |
| BiosElement | Haha | 05:26 |
| BiosElement | I'm gonna have a migraine by then, working on an apps framework for pyramid. | 05:27 |
| BiosElement | And wow... | 05:29 |
| BiosElement | So twitter uses ruby on rails...and has basically rewritten the core of rails to get enough speed out of it >.> | 05:29 |
| BiosElement | Maybe it's just me, but that kinda defeats the point. | 05:30 |
| Unit193 | "Seemed like a good idea at the time" | 05:30 |
| BiosElement | Heh, it usually does | 05:31 |
| BiosElement | And amusing thing today for me | 05:32 |
| BiosElement | I found yet another site, pretty popular one at that, that stores passwords in plaintext. | 05:32 |
| * BiosElement almost cried when he found this out | 05:32 | |
| Unit193 | How did you find this out? What one? | 05:32 |
| BiosElement | www.die2nite.com | 05:33 |
| BiosElement | If you recover your password, it'll email you your pass in plain text | 05:33 |
| BiosElement | Meaning it's not hashed serverside. | 05:33 |
| BiosElement | As a side note, I can't login with my 32char pass, so their entire login system is screwey. | 05:33 |
| Unit193 | Never heard of it... | 05:33 |
| Unit193 | Belkin is so bad... | 05:34 |
| BiosElement | It only launched in December, but it's somewhat popular. | 05:34 |
| BiosElement | "Motion Twin is one of the leading providers of online games for the French-speaking public. Created in 2001, the company has more than 10 million registered players." | 05:34 |
| BiosElement | ^So they store over 10mil players passwords unhashed. Awesome. Someone get me my black hat. >.> | 05:35 |
| Unit193 | Blasted logs are driving me crazy.... | 05:39 |
| Unit193 | drm:intel_prepare_page_flip No idea what that is... | 05:40 |
| jgould | It's getting ready to flip the page | 05:41 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: What's it matter? Doesn't look like a problem. | 05:42 |
| jgould | what graphics chipset, Unit193 | 05:42 |
| Unit193 | I need to disable logging... | 05:42 |
| BiosElement | Why? | 05:43 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: It's a problem when it makes me run out of disk space!! | 05:43 |
| Unit193 | kern.log was 15G syslog.1 was also 15G (Add in the rest and the computer is full!) | 05:43 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: They can't be that big. If they are you an always cron them very few days. | 05:44 |
| BiosElement | You have bigger problems then diskspace then. | 05:44 |
| BiosElement | How old is the install? | 05:44 |
| Unit193 | This is Natty (Beta 2 updated) | 05:44 |
| BiosElement | You probably want to run fsck. | 05:45 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: Running intel wireless? | 05:46 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Wired | 05:46 |
| BiosElement | From my poking around, looks like the probable cause is a piece of hardware is working wrong and logging like crazy | 05:47 |
| Unit193 | That would be my guess... | 05:48 |
| Unit193 | But I don't know... | 05:48 |
| BiosElement | nano through some of the log files and see if there's a pattern or anything that stands out. | 05:49 |
| Unit193 | I had to kill both of them | 05:49 |
| BiosElement | My guess is it's probably being spammed to hell by a group of similar lines. | 05:49 |
| Unit193 | cat told me yes (I did that before killing them) | 05:50 |
| BiosElement | nano 'should' be able to crack open even a huge 18gb file | 05:50 |
| BiosElement | Or you can always tail it to see | 05:50 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: less should also be able to open basically anything | 05:51 |
| Unit193 | It was full of the line (plus some) I pasted (this time and last) | 05:53 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: use xbmc by any chance? | 05:53 |
| Cheri703 | I can never remember: which is the best format (NOT ntfs) if I want to read files on windows AND linux? | 05:54 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Nope | 05:54 |
| Cheri703 | *filesystem = format | 05:54 |
| Unit193 | Fat32? | 05:54 |
| BiosElement | Cheri703: ntfs or fat32 are about all windows will read. HOWEVER I'd recommend just installing the drivers to read ext4 on win if it's your system | 05:54 |
| Cheri703 | hmmm...that may work | 05:55 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/765813 | 05:55 |
| Cheri703 | I'm reformatting my external hdd | 05:55 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: Just to confirm, creating a drirc file with vblank_mode=0 as per the freedesktop thread does indeed suppress the error message. | 05:55 |
| BiosElement | ^Per a comment | 05:55 |
| BiosElement | Per https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30654 | 05:55 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Thanks! (I was just complaining about it ;) ) | 05:59 |
| BiosElement | Heh, give it a shot, I suspect it'll work fine | 06:00 |
| Unit193 | Now if I did that correctly... | 06:06 |
| * jgould grumble grumble | 06:07 | |
| Unit193 | jgould: Still wireless issues? | 06:18 |
| jgould | No, I tried to figure out why my bluetooth wasn't working right and royally screwed the system | 06:23 |
| Unit193 | The one you JUST installed? | 06:27 |
| jgould | installed which time? | 06:33 |
| Unit193 | You just installed Xubuntu 64bit... | 06:34 |
| jgould | I can't get any of this to work under Xubuntu | 06:34 |
| * jgould gets close to giving up again | 06:38 | |
| jgould | The keyboard was *JUST* working | 06:41 |
| BiosElement | Night all | 06:43 |
| * Cheri703 finished packing a few minutes ago \o/ | 06:44 | |
| jgould | Yay! | 06:44 |
| Cheri703 | the only things not where they will be for the trip are: netbook, charger, external hdd, and phone | 06:44 |
| Cheri703 | (and the hdd isn't packed because I'm still transferring movies! | 06:44 |
| Cheri703 | ) | 06:44 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Night! | 06:45 |
| Cheri703 | one bag to check, one as carry-on, and my laptop bag/purse as my "personal item" | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: Are you going to honeypot your HD? | 06:45 |
| Cheri703 | ? | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Put files on there you think they would want to look at | 06:46 |
| Cheri703 | nah, all that will be on it are video files, and honestly, if I was paranoid at all, I could delete them and then re-download some from my home computer before heading back | 06:46 |
| Cheri703 | alright, I'm going to go hop in the shower and then get some dang sleep | 06:47 |
| * jgould pulls his hair out | 06:48 | |
| * Cheri703 has had ~3 hours of sleep since thursday morning | 06:48 | |
| Cheri703 | jgould: that was me last night trying to edit video | 06:48 |
| Cheri703 | hence the no sleep thing | 06:49 |
| jgould | What is sleep? | 06:50 |
| Unit193 | +1 | 06:51 |
| Unit193 | Na, I'm just nocturnal | 06:52 |
| jgould | Ok. Everything except internal wireless is working again | 07:02 |
| Unit193 | That's good (Since there are no drivers for it yet) | 07:07 |
| jgould | yes that is very true | 07:13 |
| jgould | any one knwo where firefox keeps the list of open tabs? | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | $FFPROFILE/sessionstore | 07:17 |
| Unit193 | ~/.mozilla/firefox/u87dzmp9.default/sessionstore.js | 07:18 |
| jgould | I'm tired of fighting this...I can't get backspace to go backwards in FF... | 07:23 |
| Unit193 | ALT+{LEFT ARROW} | 07:26 |
| jgould | GAH! fucking trackpad | 07:28 |
| jgould | Now I'm getting random clicks when I don't want them | 07:34 |
| canthus13 | jgould: There's a hack to make backspace do that. | 08:02 |
| * canthus13 got used to alt-<arrow> | 08:02 | |
| jgould | alt-arrow isn't even universal... It won't work in teh Mac OS, which is where I am now | 08:04 |
| canthus13 | Ah. | 08:04 |
| canthus13 | FF isn't exactly consistent across OSes... The preferences option in windows and Linux are under different menus... | 08:05 |
| canthus13 | (Under edit in Linux and tools in Windows) | 08:05 |
| jgould | talk about something that doesn't make sense... | 08:06 |
| jgould | it's under edit in the Mac OS | 08:06 |
| Unit193 | canthus13: That drives me up the freaking wall!! | 08:06 |
| canthus13 | http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/21/fix-firefox-backspace-to-take-you-to-the-previous-page/ | 08:07 |
| canthus13 | Works in FF4 too. | 08:08 |
| jgould | Hmmm | 08:09 |
| canthus13 | Bah. FAFSA doesn't like FF4. | 08:11 |
| canthus13 | Hmm... | 08:12 |
| Unit193 | It works if you just change your UA | 08:12 |
| jgould | shouldn't have to do that though | 08:15 |
| Unit193 | No, but it works | 08:18 |
| jgould | ping | 08:33 |
| Unit193 | pong | 08:33 |
| jgould | Thought my net dropped there for a few... | 08:34 |
| jgould | it's only been random thoughts | 08:35 |
| jgould | fracking trackpad | 08:35 |
| Unit193 | fraking... | 08:35 |
| jgould | anyone set up a terminal server? I've given it a thought, but never done it | 08:36 |
| Unit193 | I'm using one as it... | 08:36 |
| jgould | How well does it work? | 08:37 |
| Unit193 | What are you looking for? or to do? | 08:37 |
| jgould | I have no clue, just want to play wiht one | 08:38 |
| Unit193 | Can you define "terminal server"? | 08:39 |
| jgould | server to host an X session without a hard drive (everything is done over the network) | 08:40 |
| Unit193 | Checkout Thinstation (I used that once) | 08:42 |
| jgould | I wish I could get rid of Plymouth. I would like to see what my system is doing on boot... | 09:01 |
| Cheri703-mobile | I am antsy...waiting for my ride to the airport | 14:00 |
| jgould | Gah! I was added to a job at 1:45... I need to kick ass to get there... | 17:54 |
| canthus13 | jgould: Have fun. :) | 17:55 |
| _bbb | kick ass and chew bubble gum | 18:11 |
| canthus13 | Chew ass and kick gum. | 18:16 |
| paultag | hey guys | 18:17 |
| canthus13 | good morning. | 18:19 |
| _bbb | afternoon even | 18:24 |
| paultag | might as well be morning | 18:24 |
| paultag | i'm so hung over | 18:24 |
| _bbb | did you dream you were a fish | 18:25 |
| _bbb | or just try to drink like one | 18:30 |
| paultag | hehe | 18:47 |
| * Cheri703 is at jfk | 19:19 | |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: Have fun! | 19:20 |
| Cheri703 | thanks! | 19:20 |
| Unit193 | Don't let TSA hassle you too much... | 19:20 |
| Cheri703 | columbus was FINE | 19:21 |
| Cheri703 | literally, stuff on belt, walk through metal detector "ok" get stuff | 19:21 |
| BiosElement | Awesome, woke up to physical threat texts. >.< | 19:28 |
| Cheri703 | o.O ? | 19:29 |
| BiosElement | Ex-Friend's rambo friend heh | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | I woke up to people outside singing 99 bottles of bear.... | 19:35 |
| dmcglone | They must be rich fellas, they figured out how to bottle a bear | 19:39 |
| Unit193 | They were kids (We are on a good street) | 19:39 |
| dmcglone | LOL you didn't pick up on that one | 19:40 |
| canthus13 | paultag: Haha.... http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/AppleCrateII.html | 21:01 |
| paultag | canthus13: that's kinda awesome | 21:08 |
| canthus13 | 1mhz, 8-bit parallel processing... Of course, it could be upgraded to 10mhz with the right CPUs. :) | 21:12 |
| paultag | canthus13: raw power :) | 21:12 |
| canthus13 | Heh. | 21:12 |
| canthus13 | Hmm.. only 64k per node in that configuration.... | 21:18 |
| paultag | it's IO bound | 21:20 |
| paultag | unless he's smart about it | 21:20 |
| paultag | which I guess he'd have to be | 21:20 |
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