[01:34] <TheErk> Hello again.
[01:34] <Unit193> Hello again!
[01:35] <TheErk> What a lazy day
[01:37] <Unit193> Good day?
[01:41] <TheErk> very
[02:13] <canthus13> Woo. OSX fake AV... http://www.sophos.com/en-us/threat-center/threat-analyses/viruses-and-spyware/OSX~FakeAV-A.aspx
[02:33]  * jgould grumbles
[02:33] <shaunm> Hi all
[02:33] <shaunm> Is anybody in the Cincinnati area?
[02:34] <Unit193> Hello shaunm
[02:34] <jgould> hey shaunm
[02:34] <jgould> stupid broadcom
[02:39] <jgould> So,  I'm thinking about reinstalling as I've done *something to make this very unstable...
[02:40] <Cheri703> heh, I know that feeling jgould
[02:40] <TheErk> Hello Shaunm
[02:40] <TheErk> And to answer your first question, i am in the cincy area
[02:40] <Unit193> TheErk: Are you Cincy lead?
[02:41] <TheErk> Used to be.
[02:41] <TheErk> And as no one stepped up would be happy to be again
[02:45] <shaunm> there's an open source documentation conference in cincy next month. there'll be some ubuntu folks, as well as gnome, firefox, and some other projects
[02:45]  * jgould grabs his Xubuntu 64bit disk
[02:45] <shaunm> I just through I'd spread the word to local groups
[02:45] <TheErk> Ooo nice
[02:45] <shaunm> (also tried to get info on the clug, but their website seems very inactive)
[02:47] <shaunm> openhelpconference.com
[02:47] <jgould> Now  lets see if i can get this to all work again...
[02:48] <jgould> Anyone know what the EFI boot 'disk' does on the Xubutnu dick?
[02:48] <TheErk> Haven't heard from CLUG in forever
[02:48] <jgould> er disk
[02:49] <shaunm> TheErk: do they exist anymore?
[02:49] <jgould> apparently, it does nothing
[02:49] <TheErk> I honestly don't know
[02:56] <jgould> *ponders
[03:00] <jgould> damn bluetooth
[03:05] <Cheri703> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DiOthAKek
[03:11]  * jgould throws big heavy things at Broadcom
[03:11] <canthus13> beh.
[03:12]  * canthus13 lurves his broadcom stuff. (Well, most of it.. the 4306 is a bit flakey, but it doesn't have official linux drivers.)
[03:12] <jgould> how do you have it working?
[03:13] <canthus13> jgould: my 4311 and 4312 just work.
[03:14]  * canthus13 switched his 4312 for an Atheros chipset because the STA drivers don't do injection, but still.
[03:14] <jgould> This chipset my wireless has must be brand spanking new
[03:14] <canthus13> What chipset?
[03:14] <jgould> 4331
[03:15] <canthus13> 4331? Or 4313?
[03:15] <canthus13> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[03:15] <jgould> 4331.  The STA drivers won't work
[03:16] <canthus13> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/66377
[03:16] <canthus13> None yet.
[03:17] <canthus13> ..and no support in b43 or brcm80211.
[03:19] <jgould> Not yet,  I have faith in the communty though
[03:19] <canthus13> Keep pestering broadcom. I don't think they expected demand for a chip that only Apple uses.
[03:20] <jgould> exactly
[03:21] <canthus13> Oh.  bcrm80211 may have something in the pipeline...
[03:21] <canthus13> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.bcm54xx.devel/11526
[03:25]  * jgould reads
[03:30]  * jgould ponders
[03:33] <jgould> Darn.  The chip from my 09 MacBook won't fit
[03:36] <jgould>  /end fit of inspiration....
[03:40] <canthus13> Need a half-height?
[03:41] <canthus13> Or are the cards rigged so that only apple-approved cards will work, kinda like HP?
[03:41] <jgould> the latter
[03:41] <canthus13> Ah. Fuckers.
[03:42] <jgould> http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MIYRQcks54DunO3k.huge
[03:42] <jgould> My MacBook from 2006 actually used a minipci card
[03:44] <canthus13> oh. That's screwed up.
[03:44] <jgould> yeah.  I have faith in the community though.
[03:45] <canthus13> I'm sure someone will come up with something. :)
[03:45] <jgould> So am I
[03:46] <jgould> Hmmm.... The mirrors seem to be running slow
[03:47] <jgould> does it prefer eth0 over anything else when there are multiple network interfaces?
[03:51] <canthus13> Probably.
[03:52] <canthus13> ..Unless you set routing to prefer a different interface, anyway.
[03:55] <jgould> This time, I put /home on on it's own partition
[03:56] <canthus13> good idea.
[03:56] <dmcglone1> Hi all
[03:58] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Eh? I am *NOT*!!
[03:58] <dmcglone1> Huh?
[04:00] <canthus13> dmcglone1: hi.
[04:00] <canthus13> hi(gh)
[04:00] <canthus13> Cheri703: all packed and ready?
[04:01] <Cheri703> working on it :)
[04:01] <canthus13> Heh.
[04:02] <Unit193> canthus13: Haha! I do that ALL the time!
[04:02] <dmcglone1> Ah gotcha canthus13
[04:03] <canthus13> Unit193: get high?
[04:03]  * dmcglone1 doesn't smoke
[04:03] <jgould> After enabling the ppa as shown above you can add this tool with the following command:  <-- The PPA is nowhere on this page...
[04:03]  * canthus13 quit years and years ago.
[04:03] <Unit193> canthus13: No! That joke
[04:03] <canthus13> jgould: Heh.
[04:03] <canthus13> Unit193: Ah. :)
[04:04]  * dmcglone1 did it one time, got so high I freaked out, never smoked it again :-)
[04:05] <dmcglone1> I turned to getting high off of hackin ;-)
[04:05] <dmcglone1> not the kind of hackin your thinking
[04:06] <dmcglone1> I'm talking about the hackin (caughing) until you get light headed from smoking too much
[04:06] <dmcglone1> :-)
[04:08] <jgould> I'll be editing the page to include the URL for the PPA..
[04:10] <dmcglone1> are things working good for you now
[04:10] <dmcglone1> jgould:
[04:10] <jgould> I just reinstalled. was having really random problems
[04:11] <Unit193> You now have Xubuntu 64B?
[04:11] <dmcglone1> this seems like it's a nightmare for you jgould
[04:11] <dmcglone1> how long you been using linux?
[04:12] <jgould> as a desktop OS?  Since Natty relased
[04:12] <jgould> as a Server OS, for about 3 years
[04:12] <canthus13> jgould: So you've never used a 'good' version of ubuntu? :)
[04:12] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I forgot to tell you  that the fstab line example I sent you doesn't auto mount
[04:13]  * canthus13 is liking Maverick.
[04:13]  * dmcglone1 is loving Gnome3
[04:14] <jgould> Server is running 10.04 LTS
[04:14] <canthus13> dmcglone1: I haven't been able to get it working well enough to decide.
[04:14]  * canthus13 has tried with Natty and Debian  unstable.
[04:14] <dmcglone1> heck it worked out of the box for me just about
[04:14] <dmcglone1> I installed Gnome 10.10 and upgraded to Gnome 3
[04:14] <dmcglone1> oops
[04:15] <dmcglone1> Ubuntu 10.10
[04:15] <dmcglone1> it rocks!
[04:15] <dmcglone1> even my  wife is loving it1`
[04:15] <dmcglone1> !
[04:19] <jgould> dmcglone1: Rememeber this is a machine that was crafted to run one OS, Windows even runs quirky on it
[04:20] <dmcglone1> Good to know because I'll never buy a Mac now
[04:20] <Unit193> If you find the right one....
[04:23] <jgould> I'll eventually hit the right combo.  You can bend it to your will. XD
[04:23] <dmcglone1> why go to that hassle when  PC works out of the box
[04:24] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Not all do
[04:24] <dmcglone1> I've never had one that doesn't
[04:25] <dmcglone1> I'll be  back in a sec
[04:25] <jgould> I have...
[04:27] <jgould> I've had more PC's that I've just given up on with linux than the Mac...
[04:28] <canthus13> jgould: direct from an apple dev: You're prolly SOL on that driver unless bcrm80211 manages to get it working as b43 has no plans for it.
[04:30] <dmcglone1> Ok Unit193, here's a better fstab version:
[04:30] <dmcglone1> //192.168.2.2/Documents	/home/david/Documents cifs credentials=/home/david/credentials auto,user 0 0
[04:31] <dmcglone1> in the credentials file put: user=(username) and on a new line put password=(your password) and stick it in your ~
[04:31] <dmcglone1> drop the parenthesis
[04:32] <Unit193> dmcglone1: I got that part (I have it in so I can just run a script at startup)
[04:32] <dmcglone1> Ah cool
[04:33] <Unit193> I was just too lazy to bother with the fstab part...
[04:33] <dmcglone1> I like mine done before I log in, I'm lazy ;-)
[04:33] <dmcglone1> I hear ya
[04:33]  * canthus13 needs to work out how to get his wireless to connect before login. :/
[04:34] <canthus13> I'd like to be able to reboot my lappy over ssh and have it come back.
[04:34] <Unit193> With how much I reboot, it's easy to just forget about it
[04:34] <dmcglone1> canthus13: stick it in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <canthus13> yeah.. I just need to figure out arguments.
[04:35] <dmcglone1> canthus13: wireless?
[04:35] <dmcglone1> or is it wired?
[04:35] <canthus13> wireless.
[04:35] <canthus13> I found it.. Now, will network manager play nice with it?
[04:36] <dmcglone1> it should
[04:37] <dmcglone1> do you know the arguments?
[04:38] <canthus13> Yup. I got 'em. :)  But there might be an easier way...
[04:39] <dmcglone1> I always dump network manager and use ifup/down
[04:40] <canthus13> network manager is nicer for connecting to different networks. :)
[04:41] <dmcglone1> I do use it for that
[04:42] <dmcglone1> I don't use ifup/down on my netbook though, only on my server. I don't need it on my netbook or laptop
[04:42] <canthus13> My laptop doubles as my FreeNX server, though.
[04:42] <dmcglone1> I see
[04:43] <dmcglone1> I have an HP Media Center for my server
[04:44] <dmcglone1> it's got 2 150 Gig internal drives and a 1 TB external drive
[05:02] <dmcglone1> well I'm out for the night. Night all :-)
[05:05] <jgould> *grumble*
[05:07] <jgould> I'm about to give up...
[05:15]  * BiosElement yawns
[05:23] <Unit193> BiosElement: Wake up! You still have HOURS to go!
[05:23] <BiosElement> I do? >.>
[05:25] <Unit193> Yep. You have to stay up 'til 4am
[05:26] <BiosElement> Haha
[05:27] <BiosElement> I'm gonna have a migraine by then, working on an apps framework for pyramid.
[05:29] <BiosElement> And wow...
[05:29] <BiosElement> So twitter uses ruby on rails...and has basically rewritten the core of rails to get enough speed out of it >.>
[05:30] <BiosElement> Maybe it's just me, but that kinda defeats the point.
[05:30] <Unit193> "Seemed like a good idea at the time"
[05:31] <BiosElement> Heh, it usually does
[05:32] <BiosElement> And amusing thing today for me
[05:32] <BiosElement> I found yet another site, pretty popular one at that, that stores passwords in plaintext.
[05:32]  * BiosElement almost cried when he found this out
[05:32] <Unit193> How did you find this out? What one?
[05:33] <BiosElement> www.die2nite.com
[05:33] <BiosElement> If you recover your password, it'll email you your pass in plain text
[05:33] <BiosElement> Meaning it's not hashed serverside.
[05:33] <BiosElement> As a side note, I can't login with my 32char pass, so their entire login system is screwey.
[05:33] <Unit193> Never heard of it...
[05:34] <Unit193> Belkin is so bad...
[05:34] <BiosElement> It only launched in December, but it's somewhat popular.
[05:34] <BiosElement> "Motion Twin is one of the leading providers of online games for the French-speaking public. Created in 2001, the company has more than 10 million registered players."
[05:35] <BiosElement> ^So they store over 10mil players passwords unhashed. Awesome. Someone get me my black hat. >.>
[05:39] <Unit193> Blasted logs are driving me crazy....
[05:40] <Unit193> drm:intel_prepare_page_flip No idea what that is...
[05:41] <jgould> It's getting ready to flip the page
[05:42] <BiosElement> Unit193: What's it matter? Doesn't look like a problem.
[05:42] <jgould> what graphics chipset, Unit193
[05:42] <Unit193> I need to disable logging...
[05:43] <BiosElement> Why?
[05:43] <Unit193> BiosElement: It's a problem when it makes me run out of disk space!!
[05:43] <Unit193> kern.log was 15G syslog.1 was also 15G (Add in the rest and the computer is full!)
[05:44] <BiosElement> Unit193: They can't be that big. If they are you an always cron them very few days.
[05:44] <BiosElement> You have bigger problems then diskspace then.
[05:44] <BiosElement> How old is the install?
[05:44] <Unit193> This is Natty (Beta 2 updated)
[05:45] <BiosElement> You probably want to run fsck.
[05:46] <BiosElement> Unit193: Running intel wireless?
[05:46] <Unit193> BiosElement: Wired
[05:47] <BiosElement> From my poking around, looks like the probable cause is a piece of hardware is working wrong and logging like crazy
[05:48] <Unit193> That would be my guess...
[05:48] <Unit193> But I don't know...
[05:49] <BiosElement> nano through some of the log files and see if there's a pattern or anything that stands out.
[05:49] <Unit193> I had to kill both of them
[05:49] <BiosElement> My guess is it's probably being spammed to hell by a group of similar lines.
[05:50] <Unit193> cat told me yes (I did that before killing them)
[05:50] <BiosElement> nano 'should' be able to crack open even a huge 18gb file
[05:50] <BiosElement> Or you can always tail it to see
[05:51] <BiosElement> Unit193: less should also be able to open basically anything
[05:53] <Unit193> It was full of the line (plus some) I pasted (this time and last)
[05:53] <BiosElement> Unit193: use xbmc by any chance?
[05:54] <Cheri703> I can never remember: which is the best format (NOT ntfs) if I want to read files on windows AND linux?
[05:54] <Unit193> BiosElement: Nope
[05:54] <Cheri703> *filesystem = format
[05:54] <Unit193> Fat32?
[05:54] <BiosElement> Cheri703: ntfs or fat32 are about all windows will read. HOWEVER I'd recommend just installing the drivers to read ext4 on win if it's your system
[05:55] <Cheri703> hmmm...that may work
[05:55] <BiosElement> Unit193: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/765813
[05:55] <Cheri703> I'm reformatting my external hdd
[05:55] <BiosElement> Unit193: Just to confirm, creating a drirc file with vblank_mode=0 as per the freedesktop thread does indeed suppress the error message.
[05:55] <BiosElement> ^Per a comment
[05:55] <BiosElement> Per https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30654
[05:59] <Unit193> BiosElement: Thanks! (I was just complaining about it ;) )
[06:00] <BiosElement> Heh, give it a shot, I suspect it'll work fine
[06:06] <Unit193> Now if I did that correctly...
[06:07]  * jgould grumble grumble
[06:18] <Unit193> jgould: Still wireless issues?
[06:23] <jgould> No,  I tried to figure out why my bluetooth wasn't working right and royally screwed the system
[06:27] <Unit193> The one you JUST installed?
[06:33] <jgould> installed which time?
[06:34] <Unit193> You just installed Xubuntu 64bit...
[06:34] <jgould> I can't get any of this to work under Xubuntu
[06:38]  * jgould gets close to giving up again
[06:41] <jgould> The keyboard was *JUST* working
[06:43] <BiosElement> Night all
[06:44]  * Cheri703 finished packing a few minutes ago \o/
[06:44] <jgould> Yay!
[06:44] <Cheri703> the only things not where they will be for the trip are: netbook, charger, external hdd, and phone
[06:44] <Cheri703> (and the hdd isn't packed because I'm still transferring movies!
[06:44] <Cheri703> )
[06:45] <Unit193> BiosElement: Night!
[06:45] <Cheri703> one bag to check, one as carry-on, and my laptop bag/purse as my "personal item"
[06:45] <Unit193> Cheri703: Are you going to honeypot your HD?
[06:45] <Cheri703> ?
[06:46] <Unit193> Put files on there you think they would want to look at
[06:46] <Cheri703> nah, all that will be on it are video files, and honestly, if I was paranoid at all, I could delete them and then re-download some from my home computer before heading back
[06:47] <Cheri703> alright, I'm going to go hop in the shower and then get some dang sleep
[06:48]  * jgould pulls his hair out
[06:48]  * Cheri703 has had ~3 hours of sleep since thursday morning
[06:48] <Cheri703> jgould: that was me last night trying to edit video
[06:49] <Cheri703> hence the no sleep thing
[06:50] <jgould> What is sleep?
[06:51] <Unit193> +1
[06:52] <Unit193> Na, I'm just nocturnal
[07:02] <jgould> Ok.  Everything except internal wireless is working again
[07:07] <Unit193> That's good (Since there are no drivers for it yet)
[07:13] <jgould> yes that is very true
[07:15] <jgould> any one knwo where firefox keeps the list of open tabs?
[07:17] <Unit193> $FFPROFILE/sessionstore
[07:18] <Unit193> ~/.mozilla/firefox/u87dzmp9.default/sessionstore.js
[07:23] <jgould> I'm tired of fighting this...I can't get backspace to go backwards in FF...
[07:26] <Unit193> ALT+{LEFT ARROW}
[07:28] <jgould> GAH!  fucking trackpad
[07:34] <jgould> Now I'm getting random clicks when I don't want them
[08:02] <canthus13> jgould: There's a hack to make backspace do that.
[08:02]  * canthus13 got used to alt-<arrow>
[08:04] <jgould> alt-arrow isn't even universal... It won't work in teh Mac OS, which is where I am now
[08:04] <canthus13> Ah.
[08:05] <canthus13> FF isn't exactly consistent across OSes... The preferences option in windows and Linux are under different menus...
[08:05] <canthus13> (Under edit in Linux and tools in Windows)
[08:06] <jgould> talk about something that doesn't make sense...
[08:06] <jgould> it's under edit in the Mac OS
[08:06] <Unit193> canthus13: That drives me up the freaking wall!!
[08:07] <canthus13> http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/21/fix-firefox-backspace-to-take-you-to-the-previous-page/
[08:08] <canthus13> Works in FF4 too.
[08:09] <jgould> Hmmm
[08:11] <canthus13> Bah. FAFSA doesn't like FF4.
[08:12] <canthus13> Hmm...
[08:12] <Unit193> It works if you just change your UA
[08:15] <jgould> shouldn't have to do that though
[08:18] <Unit193> No, but it works
[08:33] <jgould> ping
[08:33] <Unit193> pong
[08:34] <jgould> Thought my net dropped there for a few...
[08:35] <jgould> it's only been random thoughts
[08:35] <jgould> fracking trackpad
[08:35] <Unit193> fraking...
[08:36] <jgould> anyone set up a terminal server? I've given it a thought, but never done it
[08:36] <Unit193> I'm using one as it...
[08:37] <jgould> How well does it work?
[08:37] <Unit193> What are you looking for? or to do?
[08:38] <jgould> I have no clue,  just want to play wiht one
[08:39] <Unit193> Can you define "terminal server"?
[08:40] <jgould> server to host an X session without a hard drive (everything is done over the network)
[08:42] <Unit193> Checkout Thinstation (I used that once)
[09:01] <jgould> I wish I could get rid of Plymouth.  I would like to see what my system is doing on boot...
[14:00] <Cheri703-mobile> I am antsy...waiting for my ride to the airport
[17:54] <jgould> Gah!  I was added to a job at 1:45... I need to kick ass to get there...
[17:55] <canthus13> jgould: Have fun. :)
[18:11] <_bbb> kick ass and chew bubble gum
[18:16] <canthus13> Chew ass and kick gum.
[18:17] <paultag> hey guys
[18:19] <canthus13> good morning.
[18:24] <_bbb> afternoon even
[18:24] <paultag> might as well be morning
[18:24] <paultag> i'm so hung over
[18:25] <_bbb> did you dream you were a fish
[18:30] <_bbb> or just try to drink like one
[18:47] <paultag> hehe
[19:19]  * Cheri703 is at jfk
[19:20] <Unit193> Cheri703: Have fun!
[19:20] <Cheri703> thanks!
[19:20] <Unit193> Don't let TSA hassle you too much...
[19:21] <Cheri703> columbus was FINE
[19:21] <Cheri703> literally, stuff on belt, walk through metal detector "ok" get stuff
[19:28] <BiosElement> Awesome, woke up to physical threat texts. >.<
[19:29] <Cheri703> o.O ?
[19:30] <BiosElement> Ex-Friend's rambo friend heh
[19:35] <Unit193> I woke up to people outside singing 99 bottles of bear....
[19:39] <dmcglone> They must be rich fellas, they figured out how to bottle a bear
[19:39] <Unit193> They were kids (We are on a good street)
[19:40] <dmcglone> LOL you didn't pick up on that one
[21:01] <canthus13> paultag: Haha.... http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/AppleCrateII.html
[21:08] <paultag> canthus13: that's kinda awesome
[21:12] <canthus13> 1mhz, 8-bit parallel processing... Of course, it could be upgraded to 10mhz with the right CPUs. :)
[21:12] <paultag> canthus13: raw power :)
[21:12] <canthus13> Heh.
[21:18] <canthus13> Hmm.. only 64k per node in that configuration....
[21:20] <paultag> it's IO bound
[21:20] <paultag> unless he's smart about it
[21:20] <paultag> which I guess he'd have to be