[01:34] Hello again. [01:34] Hello again! [01:35] What a lazy day [01:37] Good day? [01:41] very [02:13] Woo. OSX fake AV... http://www.sophos.com/en-us/threat-center/threat-analyses/viruses-and-spyware/OSX~FakeAV-A.aspx [02:33] * jgould grumbles [02:33] Hi all [02:33] Is anybody in the Cincinnati area? [02:34] Hello shaunm [02:34] hey shaunm [02:34] stupid broadcom [02:39] So, I'm thinking about reinstalling as I've done *something to make this very unstable... [02:40] heh, I know that feeling jgould [02:40] Hello Shaunm [02:40] And to answer your first question, i am in the cincy area [02:40] TheErk: Are you Cincy lead? [02:41] Used to be. [02:41] And as no one stepped up would be happy to be again [02:45] there's an open source documentation conference in cincy next month. there'll be some ubuntu folks, as well as gnome, firefox, and some other projects [02:45] * jgould grabs his Xubuntu 64bit disk [02:45] I just through I'd spread the word to local groups [02:45] Ooo nice [02:45] (also tried to get info on the clug, but their website seems very inactive) [02:47] openhelpconference.com [02:47] Now lets see if i can get this to all work again... [02:48] Anyone know what the EFI boot 'disk' does on the Xubutnu dick? [02:48] Haven't heard from CLUG in forever [02:48] er disk [02:49] TheErk: do they exist anymore? [02:49] apparently, it does nothing [02:49] I honestly don't know [02:56] *ponders [03:00] damn bluetooth [03:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DiOthAKek [03:11] * jgould throws big heavy things at Broadcom [03:11] beh. [03:12] * canthus13 lurves his broadcom stuff. (Well, most of it.. the 4306 is a bit flakey, but it doesn't have official linux drivers.) [03:12] how do you have it working? [03:13] jgould: my 4311 and 4312 just work. [03:14] * canthus13 switched his 4312 for an Atheros chipset because the STA drivers don't do injection, but still. [03:14] This chipset my wireless has must be brand spanking new [03:14] What chipset? [03:14] 4331 [03:15] 4331? Or 4313? [03:15] http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php [03:15] 4331. The STA drivers won't work [03:16] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/66377 [03:16] None yet. [03:17] ..and no support in b43 or brcm80211. [03:19] Not yet, I have faith in the communty though [03:19] Keep pestering broadcom. I don't think they expected demand for a chip that only Apple uses. [03:20] exactly [03:21] Oh. bcrm80211 may have something in the pipeline... [03:21] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.bcm54xx.devel/11526 [03:25] * jgould reads [03:30] * jgould ponders [03:33] Darn. The chip from my 09 MacBook won't fit [03:36] /end fit of inspiration.... [03:40] Need a half-height? [03:41] Or are the cards rigged so that only apple-approved cards will work, kinda like HP? [03:41] the latter [03:41] Ah. Fuckers. [03:42] http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/MIYRQcks54DunO3k.huge [03:42] My MacBook from 2006 actually used a minipci card [03:44] oh. That's screwed up. [03:44] yeah. I have faith in the community though. [03:45] I'm sure someone will come up with something. :) [03:45] So am I [03:46] Hmmm.... The mirrors seem to be running slow [03:47] does it prefer eth0 over anything else when there are multiple network interfaces? [03:51] Probably. [03:52] ..Unless you set routing to prefer a different interface, anyway. [03:55] This time, I put /home on on it's own partition [03:56] good idea. [03:56] Hi all [03:58] dmcglone1: Eh? I am *NOT*!! [03:58] Huh? [04:00] dmcglone1: hi. [04:00] hi(gh) [04:00] Cheri703: all packed and ready? [04:01] working on it :) [04:01] Heh. [04:02] canthus13: Haha! I do that ALL the time! [04:02] Ah gotcha canthus13 [04:03] Unit193: get high? [04:03] * dmcglone1 doesn't smoke [04:03] After enabling the ppa as shown above you can add this tool with the following command: <-- The PPA is nowhere on this page... [04:03] * canthus13 quit years and years ago. [04:03] canthus13: No! That joke [04:03] jgould: Heh. [04:03] Unit193: Ah. :) [04:04] * dmcglone1 did it one time, got so high I freaked out, never smoked it again :-) [04:05] I turned to getting high off of hackin ;-) [04:05] not the kind of hackin your thinking [04:06] I'm talking about the hackin (caughing) until you get light headed from smoking too much [04:06] :-) [04:08] I'll be editing the page to include the URL for the PPA.. [04:10] are things working good for you now [04:10] jgould: [04:10] I just reinstalled. was having really random problems [04:11] You now have Xubuntu 64B? [04:11] this seems like it's a nightmare for you jgould [04:11] how long you been using linux? [04:12] as a desktop OS? Since Natty relased [04:12] as a Server OS, for about 3 years [04:12] jgould: So you've never used a 'good' version of ubuntu? :) [04:12] Unit193: I forgot to tell you that the fstab line example I sent you doesn't auto mount [04:13] * canthus13 is liking Maverick. [04:13] * dmcglone1 is loving Gnome3 [04:14] Server is running 10.04 LTS [04:14] dmcglone1: I haven't been able to get it working well enough to decide. [04:14] * canthus13 has tried with Natty and Debian unstable. [04:14] heck it worked out of the box for me just about [04:14] I installed Gnome 10.10 and upgraded to Gnome 3 [04:14] oops [04:15] Ubuntu 10.10 [04:15] it rocks! [04:15] even my wife is loving it1` [04:15] ! [04:19] dmcglone1: Rememeber this is a machine that was crafted to run one OS, Windows even runs quirky on it [04:20] Good to know because I'll never buy a Mac now [04:20] If you find the right one.... [04:23] I'll eventually hit the right combo. You can bend it to your will. XD [04:23] why go to that hassle when PC works out of the box [04:24] dmcglone1: Not all do [04:24] I've never had one that doesn't [04:25] I'll be back in a sec [04:25] I have... [04:27] I've had more PC's that I've just given up on with linux than the Mac... [04:28] jgould: direct from an apple dev: You're prolly SOL on that driver unless bcrm80211 manages to get it working as b43 has no plans for it. [04:30] Ok Unit193, here's a better fstab version: [04:30] //192.168.2.2/Documents /home/david/Documents cifs credentials=/home/david/credentials auto,user 0 0 [04:31] in the credentials file put: user=(username) and on a new line put password=(your password) and stick it in your ~ [04:31] drop the parenthesis [04:32] dmcglone1: I got that part (I have it in so I can just run a script at startup) [04:32] Ah cool [04:33] I was just too lazy to bother with the fstab part... [04:33] I like mine done before I log in, I'm lazy ;-) [04:33] I hear ya [04:33] * canthus13 needs to work out how to get his wireless to connect before login. :/ [04:34] I'd like to be able to reboot my lappy over ssh and have it come back. [04:34] With how much I reboot, it's easy to just forget about it [04:34] canthus13: stick it in /etc/network/interfaces [04:34] yeah.. I just need to figure out arguments. [04:35] canthus13: wireless? [04:35] or is it wired? [04:35] wireless. [04:35] I found it.. Now, will network manager play nice with it? [04:36] it should [04:37] do you know the arguments? [04:38] Yup. I got 'em. :) But there might be an easier way... [04:39] I always dump network manager and use ifup/down [04:40] network manager is nicer for connecting to different networks. :) [04:41] I do use it for that [04:42] I don't use ifup/down on my netbook though, only on my server. I don't need it on my netbook or laptop [04:42] My laptop doubles as my FreeNX server, though. [04:42] I see [04:43] I have an HP Media Center for my server [04:44] it's got 2 150 Gig internal drives and a 1 TB external drive [05:02] well I'm out for the night. Night all :-) [05:05] *grumble* [05:07] I'm about to give up... [05:15] * BiosElement yawns [05:23] BiosElement: Wake up! You still have HOURS to go! [05:23] I do? >.> [05:25] Yep. You have to stay up 'til 4am [05:26] Haha [05:27] I'm gonna have a migraine by then, working on an apps framework for pyramid. [05:29] And wow... [05:29] So twitter uses ruby on rails...and has basically rewritten the core of rails to get enough speed out of it >.> [05:30] Maybe it's just me, but that kinda defeats the point. [05:30] "Seemed like a good idea at the time" [05:31] Heh, it usually does [05:32] And amusing thing today for me [05:32] I found yet another site, pretty popular one at that, that stores passwords in plaintext. [05:32] * BiosElement almost cried when he found this out [05:32] How did you find this out? What one? [05:33] www.die2nite.com [05:33] If you recover your password, it'll email you your pass in plain text [05:33] Meaning it's not hashed serverside. [05:33] As a side note, I can't login with my 32char pass, so their entire login system is screwey. [05:33] Never heard of it... [05:34] Belkin is so bad... [05:34] It only launched in December, but it's somewhat popular. [05:34] "Motion Twin is one of the leading providers of online games for the French-speaking public. Created in 2001, the company has more than 10 million registered players." [05:35] ^So they store over 10mil players passwords unhashed. Awesome. Someone get me my black hat. >.> [05:39] Blasted logs are driving me crazy.... [05:40] drm:intel_prepare_page_flip No idea what that is... [05:41] It's getting ready to flip the page [05:42] Unit193: What's it matter? Doesn't look like a problem. [05:42] what graphics chipset, Unit193 [05:42] I need to disable logging... [05:43] Why? [05:43] BiosElement: It's a problem when it makes me run out of disk space!! [05:43] kern.log was 15G syslog.1 was also 15G (Add in the rest and the computer is full!) [05:44] Unit193: They can't be that big. If they are you an always cron them very few days. [05:44] You have bigger problems then diskspace then. [05:44] How old is the install? [05:44] This is Natty (Beta 2 updated) [05:45] You probably want to run fsck. [05:46] Unit193: Running intel wireless? [05:46] BiosElement: Wired [05:47] From my poking around, looks like the probable cause is a piece of hardware is working wrong and logging like crazy [05:48] That would be my guess... [05:48] But I don't know... [05:49] nano through some of the log files and see if there's a pattern or anything that stands out. [05:49] I had to kill both of them [05:49] My guess is it's probably being spammed to hell by a group of similar lines. [05:50] cat told me yes (I did that before killing them) [05:50] nano 'should' be able to crack open even a huge 18gb file [05:50] Or you can always tail it to see [05:51] Unit193: less should also be able to open basically anything [05:53] It was full of the line (plus some) I pasted (this time and last) [05:53] Unit193: use xbmc by any chance? [05:54] I can never remember: which is the best format (NOT ntfs) if I want to read files on windows AND linux? [05:54] BiosElement: Nope [05:54] *filesystem = format [05:54] Fat32? [05:54] Cheri703: ntfs or fat32 are about all windows will read. HOWEVER I'd recommend just installing the drivers to read ext4 on win if it's your system [05:55] hmmm...that may work [05:55] Unit193: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/765813 [05:55] I'm reformatting my external hdd [05:55] Unit193: Just to confirm, creating a drirc file with vblank_mode=0 as per the freedesktop thread does indeed suppress the error message. [05:55] ^Per a comment [05:55] Per https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30654 [05:59] BiosElement: Thanks! (I was just complaining about it ;) ) [06:00] Heh, give it a shot, I suspect it'll work fine [06:06] Now if I did that correctly... [06:07] * jgould grumble grumble [06:18] jgould: Still wireless issues? [06:23] No, I tried to figure out why my bluetooth wasn't working right and royally screwed the system [06:27] The one you JUST installed? [06:33] installed which time? [06:34] You just installed Xubuntu 64bit... [06:34] I can't get any of this to work under Xubuntu [06:38] * jgould gets close to giving up again [06:41] The keyboard was *JUST* working [06:43] Night all [06:44] * Cheri703 finished packing a few minutes ago \o/ [06:44] Yay! [06:44] the only things not where they will be for the trip are: netbook, charger, external hdd, and phone [06:44] (and the hdd isn't packed because I'm still transferring movies! [06:44] ) [06:45] BiosElement: Night! [06:45] one bag to check, one as carry-on, and my laptop bag/purse as my "personal item" [06:45] Cheri703: Are you going to honeypot your HD? [06:45] ? [06:46] Put files on there you think they would want to look at [06:46] nah, all that will be on it are video files, and honestly, if I was paranoid at all, I could delete them and then re-download some from my home computer before heading back [06:47] alright, I'm going to go hop in the shower and then get some dang sleep [06:48] * jgould pulls his hair out [06:48] * Cheri703 has had ~3 hours of sleep since thursday morning [06:48] jgould: that was me last night trying to edit video [06:49] hence the no sleep thing [06:50] What is sleep? [06:51] +1 [06:52] Na, I'm just nocturnal [07:02] Ok. Everything except internal wireless is working again [07:07] That's good (Since there are no drivers for it yet) [07:13] yes that is very true [07:15] any one knwo where firefox keeps the list of open tabs? [07:17] $FFPROFILE/sessionstore [07:18] ~/.mozilla/firefox/u87dzmp9.default/sessionstore.js [07:23] I'm tired of fighting this...I can't get backspace to go backwards in FF... [07:26] ALT+{LEFT ARROW} [07:28] GAH! fucking trackpad [07:34] Now I'm getting random clicks when I don't want them [08:02] jgould: There's a hack to make backspace do that. [08:02] * canthus13 got used to alt- [08:04] alt-arrow isn't even universal... It won't work in teh Mac OS, which is where I am now [08:04] Ah. [08:05] FF isn't exactly consistent across OSes... The preferences option in windows and Linux are under different menus... [08:05] (Under edit in Linux and tools in Windows) [08:06] talk about something that doesn't make sense... [08:06] it's under edit in the Mac OS [08:06] canthus13: That drives me up the freaking wall!! [08:07] http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/21/fix-firefox-backspace-to-take-you-to-the-previous-page/ [08:08] Works in FF4 too. [08:09] Hmmm [08:11] Bah. FAFSA doesn't like FF4. [08:12] Hmm... [08:12] It works if you just change your UA [08:15] shouldn't have to do that though [08:18] No, but it works [08:33] ping [08:33] pong [08:34] Thought my net dropped there for a few... [08:35] it's only been random thoughts [08:35] fracking trackpad [08:35] fraking... [08:36] anyone set up a terminal server? I've given it a thought, but never done it [08:36] I'm using one as it... [08:37] How well does it work? [08:37] What are you looking for? or to do? [08:38] I have no clue, just want to play wiht one [08:39] Can you define "terminal server"? [08:40] server to host an X session without a hard drive (everything is done over the network) [08:42] Checkout Thinstation (I used that once) [09:01] I wish I could get rid of Plymouth. I would like to see what my system is doing on boot... [14:00] I am antsy...waiting for my ride to the airport [17:54] Gah! I was added to a job at 1:45... I need to kick ass to get there... [17:55] jgould: Have fun. :) [18:11] <_bbb> kick ass and chew bubble gum [18:16] Chew ass and kick gum. [18:17] hey guys [18:19] good morning. [18:24] <_bbb> afternoon even [18:24] might as well be morning [18:24] i'm so hung over [18:25] <_bbb> did you dream you were a fish [18:30] <_bbb> or just try to drink like one [18:47] hehe [19:19] * Cheri703 is at jfk [19:20] Cheri703: Have fun! [19:20] thanks! [19:20] Don't let TSA hassle you too much... [19:21] columbus was FINE [19:21] literally, stuff on belt, walk through metal detector "ok" get stuff [19:28] Awesome, woke up to physical threat texts. >.< [19:29] o.O ? [19:30] Ex-Friend's rambo friend heh [19:35] I woke up to people outside singing 99 bottles of bear.... [19:39] They must be rich fellas, they figured out how to bottle a bear [19:39] They were kids (We are on a good street) [19:40] LOL you didn't pick up on that one [21:01] paultag: Haha.... http://home.comcast.net/~mjmahon/AppleCrateII.html [21:08] canthus13: that's kinda awesome [21:12] 1mhz, 8-bit parallel processing... Of course, it could be upgraded to 10mhz with the right CPUs. :) [21:12] canthus13: raw power :) [21:12] Heh. [21:18] Hmm.. only 64k per node in that configuration.... [21:20] it's IO bound [21:20] unless he's smart about it [21:20] which I guess he'd have to be