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| UndiFineD | alright, hajour is on her way to AMS airport | 06:35 |
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| hypatia | hey does anyone in the channel know about braille displays? | 10:05 |
| hypatia | specifically, i'm curious about what non-alpha characters they display | 10:06 |
| hypatia | and non-contractions | 10:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | hypatia: Sorry, I've only come to this channel to help the team/keep a check on it. I can't help you :( | 10:21 |
| hypatia | that's alright, thanks MrChrisDruif :) | 10:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | hypatia: Just letting you know this channel isn't "dead" | 10:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | But as I understand it, you are blind hypatia ? | 10:25 |
| Pendulum | hypatia: TheMuso might know. He'll be at UDS | 10:26 |
| hypatia | Pendulum: yay | 10:26 |
| hypatia | MrChrisDruif: i'm sighted, and i want to build a testing interface so that sighted devs can test braille console stuff | 10:26 |
| hypatia | the idea is that 1) most sighted devs don't know braille and 2) braille displays are expensive | 10:27 |
| MrChrisDruif | That would seem true | 10:27 |
| hypatia | so i want to build a braille display emulator for sighted use | 10:27 |
| hypatia | basically an arduino and an lcd display | 10:28 |
| MrChrisDruif | How would that work? | 10:29 |
| hypatia | well, right now, you boot into a brtty console and it plays braille on your braille display | 10:30 |
| hypatia | the user who knows braille reads the braille display | 10:31 |
| hypatia | this would emulate the braille display | 10:31 |
| hypatia | but instead of dots, would translate the braille to letters on an LCD display | 10:31 |
| hypatia | it came from wanting to work on a brtty bug | 10:31 |
| hypatia | i have access to a braille display (belongs to a friend, she's happy to lend it to me) | 10:32 |
| hypatia | but then i remembered i've forgotten braille | 10:32 |
| hypatia | (i taught myself braille in grade 4 for reasons i don't recall) | 10:32 |
| * MrChrisDruif never learned braille :( | 10:32 | |
| hypatia | but this resulted in the idea of a braille display emulator | 10:33 |
| hypatia | which would cost <$100 and enable sighted users to work on brtty bugs | 10:33 |
| hypatia | or any braille terminal related bugs | 10:33 |
| hypatia | does that make any more sense? :) | 10:33 |
| MrChrisDruif | So....it's an emulator/translator....for something that was originally text already? | 10:34 |
| hypatia | hmm this brings up a good point | 10:35 |
| hypatia | i wonder if one could just connect the output from brtty to a terminal emulator of another type | 10:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed | 10:36 |
| hypatia | oooh | 10:37 |
| hypatia | http://mielke.cc/brltty/doc/drivers/index.html | 10:37 |
| hypatia | it is likely that i need to learn more about braille displays in order to be able to spec out this project | 10:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Good luck with that :) | 10:57 |
| hypatia | thanks, MrChrisDruif | 11:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | Your welcome :) | 11:00 |
| AlanBell | 2/58 | 11:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | AlanBell: What? | 11:20 |
| AlanBell | oh, sorry was just switching to window 58! | 11:21 |
| AlanBell | hypatia: I have been talking to some of the various on-screen keyboard developers to see which ones have multi-touch and steno layouts on the roadmap | 11:22 |
| UndiFineD | AlanBell, what about Daniel0108 ? | 13:49 |
| AlanBell | not sure what you mean UndiFineD? | 13:52 |
| UndiFineD | Daniel works on Touchlay | 13:53 |
| UndiFineD | so he might something there | 13:53 |
| UndiFineD | *have | 13:53 |
| webczat | What things are currently ... inaccessible in unity? | 15:49 |
| webczat | How do you get to the indicator from a keyboard? | 16:24 |
| AlanBell | alt+f1 gets keyboard focus on the unity sidebar | 16:25 |
| AlanBell | then you can go up and down, and right to pop out a little menu by each option | 16:25 |
| webczat | I'm not in unity but in the gnome2 thing. Not only because I heart unity is inaccessible or not as accessible as it should, but also because I don't have 3d. | 16:27 |
| webczat | like not yet | 16:27 |
| webczat | No idea? using an arrow key (right/left) actually makes me unable to leave the panel at all! | 16:41 |
| webczat | unless I click the indicator applet and escape | 16:42 |
| hajour | UndiFineD, | 17:36 |
| hajour | i am arrived | 17:36 |
| Pendulum | hajour: glad you got there safely :) | 17:36 |
| hajour | i had delay almost mist the next plain.and they lost my bags | 17:37 |
| Daniel0108 | hi hajour! :) | 17:37 |
| Daniel0108 | I'm in budapest, hajour | 17:37 |
| hajour | a ok :) | 17:38 |
| hajour | great Daniel0108 | 17:38 |
| Daniel0108 | hajour: where are you? | 17:39 |
| Daniel0108 | afk, dinner :P | 17:39 |
| hajour | in the hall | 17:39 |
| Daniel0108 | oh, I'm in the Agape Hotel :P | 17:39 |
| Daniel0108 | bye now :) | 17:39 |
| UndiFineD | hoi hajour | 18:23 |
| hajour | hi ... | 18:30 |
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