=== erkan^ is now known as zippo^ === zippo^ is now known as erkan^ [06:35] alright, hajour is on her way to AMS airport [10:05] hey does anyone in the channel know about braille displays? [10:06] specifically, i'm curious about what non-alpha characters they display [10:07] and non-contractions [10:21] hypatia: Sorry, I've only come to this channel to help the team/keep a check on it. I can't help you :( [10:22] that's alright, thanks MrChrisDruif :) [10:24] hypatia: Just letting you know this channel isn't "dead" [10:25] But as I understand it, you are blind hypatia ? [10:26] hypatia: TheMuso might know. He'll be at UDS [10:26] Pendulum: yay [10:26] MrChrisDruif: i'm sighted, and i want to build a testing interface so that sighted devs can test braille console stuff [10:27] the idea is that 1) most sighted devs don't know braille and 2) braille displays are expensive [10:27] That would seem true [10:27] so i want to build a braille display emulator for sighted use [10:28] basically an arduino and an lcd display [10:29] How would that work? [10:30] well, right now, you boot into a brtty console and it plays braille on your braille display [10:31] the user who knows braille reads the braille display [10:31] this would emulate the braille display [10:31] but instead of dots, would translate the braille to letters on an LCD display [10:31] it came from wanting to work on a brtty bug [10:32] i have access to a braille display (belongs to a friend, she's happy to lend it to me) [10:32] but then i remembered i've forgotten braille [10:32] (i taught myself braille in grade 4 for reasons i don't recall) [10:32] * MrChrisDruif never learned braille :( [10:33] but this resulted in the idea of a braille display emulator [10:33] which would cost <$100 and enable sighted users to work on brtty bugs [10:33] or any braille terminal related bugs [10:33] does that make any more sense? :) [10:34] So....it's an emulator/translator....for something that was originally text already? [10:35] hmm this brings up a good point [10:36] i wonder if one could just connect the output from brtty to a terminal emulator of another type [10:36] Indeed [10:37] oooh [10:37] http://mielke.cc/brltty/doc/drivers/index.html [10:54] it is likely that i need to learn more about braille displays in order to be able to spec out this project [10:57] Good luck with that :) [11:00] thanks, MrChrisDruif [11:00] Your welcome :) [11:11] 2/58 [11:20] AlanBell: What? [11:21] oh, sorry was just switching to window 58! [11:22] hypatia: I have been talking to some of the various on-screen keyboard developers to see which ones have multi-touch and steno layouts on the roadmap [13:49] AlanBell, what about Daniel0108 ? [13:52] not sure what you mean UndiFineD? [13:53] Daniel works on Touchlay [13:53] so he might something there [13:53] *have [15:49] What things are currently ... inaccessible in unity? [16:24] How do you get to the indicator from a keyboard? [16:25] alt+f1 gets keyboard focus on the unity sidebar [16:25] then you can go up and down, and right to pop out a little menu by each option [16:27] I'm not in unity but in the gnome2 thing. Not only because I heart unity is inaccessible or not as accessible as it should, but also because I don't have 3d. [16:27] like not yet [16:41] No idea? using an arrow key (right/left) actually makes me unable to leave the panel at all! [16:42] unless I click the indicator applet and escape [17:36] UndiFineD, [17:36] i am arrived [17:36] hajour: glad you got there safely :) [17:37] i had delay almost mist the next plain.and they lost my bags [17:37] hi hajour! :) [17:37] I'm in budapest, hajour [17:38] a ok :) [17:38] great Daniel0108 [17:39] hajour: where are you? [17:39] afk, dinner :P [17:39] in the hall [17:39] oh, I'm in the Agape Hotel :P [17:39] bye now :) [18:23] hoi hajour [18:30] hi ...