[00:09] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: quick question... will kobby work this time around?
[00:13] <DarkwingDuck> For those participating at UDS... it appears that Kobby works this time around
[00:16] <DarkwingDuck> It's a bit dodgy but, it looks like it'll hold up.
[06:41] <yofel> hm, seems nobody of use actually uploaded oxygen-icons, I'll do that then
[07:54] <ScottK> udslogger: No.  This is highlight udslogger day.
[08:03] <valorie> weeeeeee
[08:58] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whose your roommate?
[08:58] <shadeslayer> *who is
[09:01] <valorie> is this guy as boring in person as he is on the video?
[09:01] <valorie> deadly
[09:02] <valorie> sounds like Tony Blair on downers
[09:02] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[09:02] <shadeslayer> valorie: altho he is making alot of valid points
[09:03] <valorie> I wish I could focus
[09:03] <valorie> but he's just too boring
[09:03] <shadeslayer> :P
[09:08] <keffie_jayx> hey is there a chatroom for uds talk on kubuntu packaging?
[09:09] <debfx> keffie_jayx: #ubuntu-uds-mikszath
[09:09] <yofel> keffie_jayx: #ubuntu-uds-mikszath see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[09:09] <yofel> but the session is a bit delayed
[09:09] <yofel> the plenary is taking too long as usual
[09:43] <bambee> morning
[09:46] <DarkwingDuck> Morning
[09:48] <yofel> hi bambee
[09:48] <bambee> hi :)
[09:48] <yofel> bambee: you at least didn't miss a thing from UDS :P
[09:48] <yofel> (except mark wanting all world to listen to the linearo folks)
[09:49] <bambee> yofel: I won't present to the talk about packaging for oneiric , but for other talks today, I will be present :)
[09:49] <bambee> :(
[09:49] <bambee> I won't be present *
[09:50] <yofel> bambee: packaging talk was moved to 15:00 - got time?
[09:50] <bambee> mhhhh...not sure, I am at work, so 15:00 UTC is 17:00 here
[09:51] <yofel> ah, I'm talking local time, so 13:00 UTC
[09:51] <bambee> (I've a meeting with my boss at 14:00 UTC... :\)
[10:10] <Quintasan> god damn it
[10:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ?
[10:15] <Quintasan> moving session around like that
[10:15] <JontheEchidna> lol
[10:15] <Quintasan> I longer know what I'm supposed to do :D
[10:15] <yofel> and I don't know what to listen to
[10:15] <JontheEchidna> I'm in the Maturity ratings for applications session
[10:16] <Quintasan> Well, that's not relevant to my intrests atm
[10:16] <yofel> I found natty feedback interesting, but they have no stream :S
[10:17] <Quintasan> Wah, so wiki session is the first session we will actually have
[10:17] <Quintasan> </3 spam from Launchpad
[10:18] <Quintasan> Nightrose: Is the kile package working?
[10:19] <Nightrose> Quintasan: sorry - was too busy yesterday to try
[10:19] <Quintasan> Nightrose: oh well, fine, I was just asking since they moved our session and I have an hour to spare
[10:19] <Nightrose> ah heh
[10:19] <yofel> I have a backport package too, or just get someone to upload the backport request
[10:19] <Nightrose> well in the bug there still seem to be people with problems
[10:20] <yofel> the symbols bug?
[10:20] <Nightrose> yeah
[10:22] <yofel> well, you mean the panel at the left where you click on the symbols so it inserts \leftarrow or so, right?
[10:22] <yofel> that works fine for me in beta5
[10:23] <Nightrose> yofel: ok - i can only say what the comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kile/+bug/772631 say
[10:24] <Nightrose> i'll try to test it as well today but can't promise
[10:27] <yofel> Nightrose: well, as answer for your question: bug 779203
[10:27] <Nightrose> :)
[10:35] <shadeslayer> yofel: Quintasan: udslogger ScottK do we have "More Kubuntu Packaging" in Elod now?
[10:36] <Quintasan> NOW?
[10:36] <ScottK> Not as far as I know.
[10:36] <yofel> wasn't the wiki session now?
[10:36] <DarkwingDuck> No, 24 minutes
[10:36] <ScottK> Wiki session is in the next hour
[10:36] <shadeslayer> oh wait... that was a hour ago ... :S
[10:36] <Quintasan> yup
[10:36] <shadeslayer> whats happening
[10:36] <yofel> right, ah, maybe he means the room
[10:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Packaging is at 15:00 Budapest time
[10:37] <Quintasan> wiki is in 20 minutes or so
[10:37] <shadeslayer> no i mean https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging-two
[10:37] <shadeslayer> it says that was supposed to happen a hour ago ....
[10:37] <Quintasan> Because it was lol
[10:37] <yofel> yeah
[10:37] <shadeslayer> ...
[10:37] <Quintasan> but Linaro guys took time from every session and we moved it
[10:37] <yofel> blame linearo
[10:38] <DarkwingDuck> It got moved because of the Linaro guys
[10:38] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[10:38] <shadeslayer> *facepalm*
[10:38] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I'll find a spot for that.
[10:38] <udslogger> ScottK: did you schedule mobile, fileshare, installer and no-alternate?
[10:38] <Quintasan> oh wait
[10:38] <udslogger> didn't notice them when skimming throught the schedule
[10:39] <Quintasan> ScottK:  More Kubuntu Packaging is seriously scheduled at 10 :/
[10:39] <shadeslayer> it's there somewhere 
[10:39] <yofel> they were scheduled, at least when I looked yesterday
[10:39] <udslogger> maybe the shitty summit website just doesnt wanna highlight them ^^
[10:39] <ScottK> I don't see it.
[10:40]  * Quintasan can see it just fine, Monday, 10:00
[10:40] <Quintasan> Magic
[10:43]  * udslogger installs guidebook
[10:44] <udslogger> should the download ever start at all
[10:48] <ScottK> More Kubuntu Packaging is now tomorrow at 1000.
[10:48] <shadeslayer> moved
[10:48] <shadeslayer> so wiki stuff in another 10 minutes?
[10:49]  * yofel starts to believe kile enjoys making fun out of him
[10:49] <yofel> I'll look at this when I get home
[11:00] <droidslayer> Bah ... power outage >.>
[11:07] <DarkwingDuck> JR is leaving us?
[11:08] <JontheEchidna> for a cycle he will be tranferring to the bazaar team
[11:42] <Quintasan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-kubuntu-feedback/+bug/779842
[11:49] <Quintasan> ScottK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-documentation-review
[11:49] <Quintasan> We would need a session for that
[11:56] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, that was fun..
[12:39] <bambee> finally, "Packaging for oneiric" is today at 15:00 UTC ? or tomorrow at 10:00 UTC ?
[12:40] <DarkwingDuck> On the scheule for today at 1500
[12:57] <udslogger> bambee: 15 CEST not UTC
[12:57] <udslogger> that is UTC+2
[12:58] <shadeslayer> udslogger: did the Qt plenary start yet?
[12:58] <udslogger> dunno
[12:58] <udslogger> I am having a beer
[12:58] <shadeslayer> yes it did
[12:58] <shadeslayer> well .. i haz video
[12:58] <bambee> udslogger: ohh, like in france ok
[12:58] <shadeslayer> bambee: http://video.ubuntu.com/live/
[12:59] <udslogger> oh I can watch it from here
[12:59] <udslogger> yay
[12:59] <shadeslayer> lulz
[13:00] <shadeslayer> bleh .. Tp API docs are all sorts of busted
[13:02] <shadeslayer> lolz .. where the hell is the camera focussing
[13:02] <bambee> shadeslayer: thanks btw
[13:02] <shadeslayer> bambee: np
[13:03] <bambee> I thought the schedule was for UTC... damnit xD
[13:03] <shadeslayer> Qt!!!
[13:04] <bambee> OH MY...... !!!!
[13:10] <yofel> did anyone look at the kdeutils patch mentioned on -packagers yet?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> also the Ark patch ..
[13:11] <yofel> that's the one I meant
[13:11] <shadeslayer> oh
[13:11] <shadeslayer> okay .. 
[13:11] <bambee> a nokia qt developer... my hero :D
[13:14] <shadeslayer> oooh
[13:14] <bambee> Qt <3
[13:17] <DarkwingDuck> ohhhhhh Qt5!
[13:17] <tsimpson> excitement!
[13:19] <shadeslayer> Version_Bumps++
[13:20] <bambee> RHOOO!!!! :D
[13:21] <shadeslayer> WOW
[13:22] <bambee> :|
[13:55] <lucidfox> Good grief, Qt5?
[13:55] <lucidfox> Is another complete KDE rewrite in order? They've only recently finished polishing KDE4 :(
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> it will be mostly source compatible, so it won't be nearly as big of an effort as the jump from Qt3 to Qt4, which also had a design shift
[13:59] <bambee> well, I am present to "Packaging for oneiric", but not for others events today :'(
[14:02] <bulldog98> lucidfox: no the blog post says they want to keep (mainly source compatibility)
[14:10] <lucidfox> ah, good to hear thay
[14:10] <lucidfox> that
[14:10] <lucidfox> so, will it be KDE5, or will be still be KDE 4.something, but based on Qt5?
[14:11] <tsimpson> probably still KDE 4.x, but based on 5.0 (as long as it's all source compatible)
[14:37] <droidslayer> yofel: whats the room?
[14:37] <droidslayer> Powa outage again
[14:38] <yofel> #ubuntu-uds-tohotom
[14:54] <droidslayer_> yofel: what are they discussing?
[14:55] <yofel> touchegg
[14:55] <droidslayer_> Ah ok
[14:55] <yofel> and backup 
[15:00] <droidslayer_> yofel: did they finish the session early?
[15:00] <yofel> no, still talking, now about kde module splitup
[15:00] <droidslayer_> Ah ok
[15:00] <droidslayer_> bulldog98: did you package kde pim?
[15:01] <droidslayer_> 4.5.95
[15:01] <bulldog98> droidslayer_: yes the beta package
[15:01] <yofel> session ended
[15:01] <droidslayer_> bulldog98: could you try and mention it on the wiki next time?
[15:01] <steveire> If it's BiC (and it is) it means KDE 5
[15:01] <droidslayer_> I repackaged it
[15:01] <bulldog98> droidslayer_: oh forgot that :(
[15:02] <bulldog98> droidslayer_: sorry for that
[15:02] <droidslayer_> bulldog98: did you push packaging to bzr repo?
[15:02] <bulldog98> droidslayer_: that’s the other thing I forgot
[15:03] <droidslayer_> :P
[15:03] <droidslayer_> bulldog98: could you push it asap?
[15:04] <droidslayer_> Ok gtg
[15:04] <droidslayer_> Cya
[15:04] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I don’t have access (I’m not a member or are ninjas allowed now?)
[15:06] <valorie> hmmm, slept through packaging, but then....
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> the notes are pretty representative of how things went
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> (I would know, I took them. :P)
[15:07] <bulldog98> steveire: ping
[15:11] <steveire> pong
[15:11] <bulldog98> are you still packaging kdepim?
[15:12] <yofel> bulldog98: no, but you can always file merge requests, we'll notice them
[15:12] <yofel> that way the code is *somewhere* on launchpad at least
[15:13] <bulldog98> yofel: yeh I’ll do that now
[15:14] <valorie> gah, without sound, there is no way to participate
[15:14] <steveire> bulldog98: Nope, not atm
[15:15] <bulldog98> steveire: cause it’s already done
[15:15] <valorie> I'll be at community in an hour, I guess
[15:26] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: just push to your own branch and ask for a merge
[15:29] <maco> O_O accessibility session is at 5am my time tomorrow O_O
[15:31] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: tried that but I get an lp error
[15:32] <shadeslayer> error?
[15:32] <bulldog98> that was the reason for not doing that
[15:32] <bulldog98> No REFERER Header
[15:32] <yofel> ask in #launchpad, but afaik launchpad requires referers
[15:32] <shadeslayer> i have no idea .... maybe talk to someone on #launchpad?
[15:33] <bulldog98> yofel: I did that but I don’t know how to enable them with rekonq
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> maco: Scott's seeing if he can reschedule it later
[15:34] <yofel> no idea either, never tried to file a merge request with rekonq
[15:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: ?
[15:34] <maco> JontheEchidna: that'd be handy
[15:34] <shadeslayer> huh>
[15:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: ??
[15:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: any idea why rekonq wouldn't send referers?
[15:34] <shadeslayer> oh ... nope
[15:38] <bulldog98> konqi doesn’t want too (an other error) 
[15:40]  * bulldog98 feels hated by browsers :(
[15:43] <Quintasan> yofel: please try restarting you core
[15:43] <yofel> hm, k, sec
[15:44] <bulldog98> someone can review them?
[15:44] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: push to bzr branch ask for merge on kubuntu-devel
[15:44] <shadeslayer> or sort it out with people on #launchpad
[15:45] <ScottK> maco: I moved it later in the day.
[15:46] <yofel> restarted postgres too
[15:48] <maco> ScottK: thanks
[15:51] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: reviewing
[15:51] <shadeslayer> uh
[15:52] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: did you not adjust the missing icons?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> oh this is kdepim-runtime
[16:01] <yofel> Kubuntu Community for Oneiric in #ubuntu-uds-kazincy in 4 mins
[16:02] <ulysses> hmmmm, I want to be there:(
[16:05] <yofel> ulysses: start by joining the channel ;)
[16:06] <ulysses> which?
[16:06] <yofel> -kazincy as I said
[16:08] <yofel> ulysses: also see http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[16:08] <yofel> icecast is having issues though all the time :(
[16:09] <ulysses> can't listen, I'm at the university:(
[16:09] <ulysses> but I can go on Thursday!
[16:25] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: which do you mean?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> hmm?
[16:25] <bulldog98> [16:52] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: did you not adjust the missing icons?
[16:25] <shadeslayer> bulldog98:  ignore that, i was looking at the wrong branch
[16:26] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: ok
[16:26] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: how do I update a merge request?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> push to branch and then ask for merge again
[16:28] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: it says that there is already a merge proposal
[16:29] <bulldog98> forget it
[16:32] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: so updated the branch
[16:38] <shadeslayer> okay
[16:38] <shadeslayer> will look in a couple of minutes
[17:03] <shadeslayer> agateau: around?
[17:04] <agateau> shadeslayer: in a meeting atm
[17:04] <shadeslayer> okay
[17:04] <shadeslayer> agateau: can you ping me when you're free?
[17:05] <agateau> shadeslayer: ok
[17:28] <shadeslayer> agateau: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/09/plasma-desktopwB1577.jpg << for when you are free
[17:30] <yofel> ok, while the others are having dinner and are getting drunk let's get back to work..
[17:30] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:30] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:30]  * yofel goes looking at the ark patch
[17:31] <maco> shadeslayer: what is that?
[17:32] <shadeslayer> maco: so thats telepathy
[17:32] <shadeslayer> erm
[17:32] <shadeslayer> empathy
[17:32] <shadeslayer> where you can set custom statuses
[17:32] <yofel> kde bug 271553
[17:32] <shadeslayer> i'm implementing the same for telepathy KDE
[17:33]  * jussi has an interesting kubuntu bug if anyone wants to take a peak...
[17:34] <shadeslayer> jussi: shoot
[17:34] <yofel> guess I'll add that to kdeutils
[17:49] <jussi01> bah
[17:49] <jussi01> stupid internet connectivity
[17:49] <jussi01> http://imgur.com/0OcXM
[17:49] <jussi01> something crashed and this happened....
[17:49] <jussi01> I some how have a gnome desktop and plasma panels...
[17:51] <yofel> is nautilus running?
[17:51] <jussi01> yes
[17:51] <jussi01> seems so
[17:51] <yofel> then you know why you have the gnome desktop wallpaper :P
[17:52] <jussi01> yofel: but that doesnt explain why I have it - how did it get there in the first place?
[17:53] <yofel> true..
[17:53] <jussi01> anyways, I killed it and I has desktop back
[18:02] <maco> jussi01: do you use dropbox?
[18:04] <jussi> maco: no
[18:26] <agateau> shadeslayer: unfortunately I won't be able tonight it seems :/
[18:26] <agateau> shadeslayer: send me a mail
[18:26] <agateau> :/
[18:26] <shadeslayer> aw
[18:26] <shadeslayer> agateau: time for a quick question?
[18:26] <shadeslayer> agateau: should i use KDialog for showing/adding/removing the statuses?
[18:27] <shadeslayer> and when a user clicks Add they get a KID
[19:41] <bambee> rhoo. bzr fast-export rocks :D
[19:42] <yofel> what's that?
[19:46] <yofel> hm, does sound interesting
[19:46] <bambee> yofel: I am converting the userconfig repository to git
[19:46] <bambee> so I need it
[19:46] <yofel> right
[19:47] <bambee> basically it exports a stream corresponding to the content of the repository, it's interoperable with git fast-import
[19:47] <bambee> so: bzr fast-export $PWD | git fast-import && git reset HEAD =>  does the trick ;)
[19:48] <bambee> it's simple and everything is converted... (tags included) :D
[22:25] <steveire_> Anyone know about this:
[22:25] <steveire_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/579663
[22:26] <steveire_> I'm getting a similar issue now with qt-folks
[22:34]  * ScottK thinks udslogger should figure this one out.
[22:35] <ScottK> (once he finishes watching Dr. Who.
[22:35] <ScottK> )
[22:36] <ulysses> oh, the siren is a doctor, all people live, the captain with his son and the crew will stay on the starship, Amy saves Rory, happy end
[22:36] <ulysses> ScottK: you are udslogger's roommate?
[22:37] <ScottK> No
[22:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: only 3 more hours to bed eh? :D
[22:42] <ulysses> it's almost midnight in Hungary
[22:42] <shadeslayer> ulysses: don't you know, its a rule at UDS's that you never sleep before 3
[22:42] <shadeslayer> 3AM
[22:43] <shadeslayer> and never get up later than 7.30AM
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> we finished about 15 minutes ago
[22:43] <shadeslayer> finished what?
[22:43] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: some sort of party ?
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> dr who
[22:43] <ulysses> shadeslayer: I don't, I'm not there:p
[22:43] <JontheEchidna> we actually were talked to by the creator of QGtkStyle today, maybe he'll be around tomorrow
[22:43] <shadeslayer> you were watching Dr. Who? :D
[22:44] <shadeslayer> ah
[22:44]  * shadeslayer is struggling with QListViews
[22:45] <ulysses> no, time to sleep, or I won't do my study tomorrow
[22:45] <ulysses> good night
[22:46] <shadeslayer> night
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> I'll be sleeping in a bit too
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> since I gotta get up at 8 if I want to eat
[22:46] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: whut ... 0.o
[22:47] <shadeslayer> you are boring... y u no sleep at 3 AM
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> sessions are at 900, so I must get up at 800 if I want to eat breakfast
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> jonathan carter started snoring two minutes after he turned off the lights (he's my roomie)
[22:47]  * tazz kicks shadeslayer
[22:47] <shadeslayer> tazz: what
[22:47] <shadeslayer> hehe
[22:49] <tazz> JontheEchidna: that is totally cool.
[22:49] <tazz> i wish i could sleep that fast.
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> uds is exhausting
[22:49] <shadeslayer> yeah
[22:49] <tazz> shadeslayer: you are not jealous  that you are not at UDS ?
[22:49] <shadeslayer> nope
[22:50] <tazz> shadeslayer: so dont you want to sleep?
[22:51] <shadeslayer> dude, i just played 30 minutes of Crysis, i'm all revved up
[22:52] <shadeslayer> flipping awesome graphics, better than a shot of coffee
[22:58] <bambee> good night
[23:36] <valorie> I was excited to get the ripped streams so I could catch up on what I missed
[23:36] <valorie> so far, they are bland
[23:36] <valorie> blank