[00:15] <introuble> if i setup my own sms gateway. i will be independant to send sms. i wil not incure any cost of gsm sms sending by networks. i mean i dont have to purchace gsm simcard of a network and then pay its charges to send sms to people ?
[00:22] <kavurt> in google talk, i see a black screen instead of video. but in skype everything is normal. what might be wrong?
[00:31] <roadfish> any idea why logging into KDE would fail? I log in and get those start up icons ... but then it fails and I get the KDE log in again.
[00:32] <roadfish> I get to the KDE desktop when using the Natty live CD ... but after doing a harddrive install, then the start up icons only get through two of the five icons.
[00:36] <James147> roadfish: check ~/.xsession-errors
[00:37] <roadfish> James147: I do get this error:
[00:37] <roadfish>    kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
[00:37] <roadfish> and I've done a websearch on this error message
[00:38] <roadfish> I suspect problem may be my KM400 graphics chipset.
[00:39] <roadfish> I got Hardy Kubuntu working on my PC some years ago but am not having luck with Natty Kubuntu (which I'm installing on a fresh, brand new harddrive).
[01:27] <introuble> are there softwares available that auto matically dials a list of telephone numbers (ofcourse with landline and modem attached to pc)  plays a pre recorded sound file and hangsup the phone and then dials next number and do the same.  by what name these apps exist. what keywords should i use in google?
[01:54] <Matisse> I want to let you know that I solved my problem with a Perl-script i found in the web
[01:55] <gremset> what is the shortuct to display Advamced > Special application settings. I basically got ridof the title bar and can't figure out to get the right clikc menu on title popup.
[02:01] <lsv> so I change my /etc/default/grub file from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet splash" and now Ubuntu starts in text mode, the problem is that when Ubuntu finish booting up I need to press Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6] to log in, is there any way to boot to any of the ttys?
[02:02] <James147> gremset: alt+F3
[02:02] <gremset> James147: that is it, thanks
[02:03] <James147> lsv: what happens if you remove the "text quite splash" entirly?
[02:04] <lsv> I don't know.  Haven't tried that.
[02:06] <lsv> I shall try that and be right back.
[02:12] <lsv> James147: after removing "text quiet splash" and just leaving "", Ubuntu booting to the GUI login screen
[02:13] <James147> lsv: and you want to it boot to the shell? try adding "3" to the end of that line instead (boots to init level 3 "consol mode"
[02:14] <lsv> James147: like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="3"
[02:15] <James147> yes
[02:15] <James147> lsv: note you can reboot and edit the menu there to test it rather then running grub-update all the time :)
[02:17] <lsv> James147: at the grub screen right?  Just press 'e' to edit the command, right?
[02:17] <James147> yea
[02:18] <lsv> ok, I'll give it a try :D.  I'll be back in a few minutes.  Thanks for the help ;]
[02:26] <lsv> James147: Ended up back on GUI login... D:
[02:45] <bronze>  Hi, does the upstart system have a specific command that is supposed to be used to alter the inetd configuration files, (analogous to chkconfig) or do we just do it the old way, by editing them and sending a HUP to inetd?
[02:58] <frogonwheels> bronze: you talking about /etc/init.d/*  or /etc/init/*
[02:58] <bronze> frogonwheels: neither,  /etc /inetd
[03:01] <frogonwheels> bronze: reading properly now.  you can use   reload inetd  if inetd is a new script.. otherwise  /etc/init.d/inent  reload should do the trick no?
[03:02] <frogonwheels> bronze: by new script - I mean defined in /etc/init/ for proper use with upstart config  vs  old-style sys V compat.
[03:02] <bronze> I dunno.  the inetd daemon has to re-read its conf files to get the new info in. I dont know what the reload command does. Isn't reload for the upstart system?
[03:03] <bronze> heh, our responses passed each other in transit
[03:04] <frogonwheels> either way, /etcinit.d/inetd reload  should tell you if it's a new-style upstart script
[03:05] <bronze> frogonwheels: ok, yes, looks like reload is the answer. Thank you.
[03:05] <frogonwheels> bronze: man reload   look like it links to  initctl
[03:06] <bronze> initctl?   sound like a foreign swear word! a particularly potent one at that. :-)
[03:07] <frogonwheels> bronze:   *ctl  is a fairly common name for programs that send signals to others , but yes :)
[03:07] <bronze> in the inetd script reload sends aHUP signal to inetd and inetd re-reads its conf file when it gets a HUP.
[03:07] <frogonwheels> bronze: that would be again, a fairly common way o fdoing it.
[03:08] <bronze> mucho gracias
[03:08] <frogonwheels> bronze: no probs.
[04:48] <Claude1> Hi guys. I am stuck with one pc upgrading to kubuntu 11.04. When trying to run the installer, my partitions don't show anymore and I can't even add new partitions. Anyone there who can help? Thanks a lot
[04:53] <Claude_m33> Hi. anymone to help me upgrade my kubuntu? issues with partitions not showing up in installer
[05:17] <dan_l> !phonon
[05:18] <dan_l> !amarok
[05:21] <preecher> i'm reinstalling kubuntu 11.04---my question is this---is there a faster way of doing/getting the updates? because when i check the install updates while the install is taking place it takes like 5-6 hours
[05:25] <dan_l> Preecher:  slow network?
[05:26] <preecher> dan no----its always slow when it gets to the language packs for me
[05:26] <preecher> dan_l
[05:27] <dan_l> Preecher:  5-7 hours sounds a little extreme to me.  I'm not sure what's going on there.
[05:27] <gennro> dial-up?
[05:27] <preecher> it is extreme
[05:28] <preecher> no dls
[05:28] <preecher> dsl
[05:29] <pedahzur> Are the 4.6.3 packages going to be released for Kubuntu 10.10 as well?
[05:29] <preecher> i can do an install in about 20 mins if i dont do the updates during install---is it ok to do that  tht way
[05:29] <gennro> yeah thats fine
[05:30] <dan_l> Has anyone had streaming audio issues since upgrading?
[05:30] <dan_l> Like poor audio quality?
[06:16] <raulcaro> hi,  does anybody have Kubuntu natty 11.04?
[06:33] <dundee> Hi all
[06:33] <dundee> How to kde 4.6.3 in kubuntu please.
[06:35] <TeslaTony> I just got a nifty Kubuntu install going, and would like to personalize a bit. But when I go to the theme manager, and install a new theme from the net, it doesn't show any new ones, even though I'm told it's installed. Help?
[06:37] <dundee> @TeslaTony: What I do sometimes if that doesn't work is to go to kde-look.org and download and install manually still using the theme manager
[06:39] <TeslaTony> dundee: Ah. So something of a known bug?
[06:42] <dundee> @TeslaTony: Well I haven't been changing the default theme for sometime now. I know it used to happen and that's how I usually solve the problem.
[06:43] <TeslaTony> dundee: Fair enough. Thanks.
[06:51] <Magnusson> is it normal for the software package icon to keep popping up in my system tray?
[06:51] <Magnusson> periodically
[06:53] <TeslaTony> Magnusson, does it have updates for you to install?
[06:53] <Magnusson> it hasn't said so
[06:54] <Magnusson> i thought it might just be that it was checking for updates but want to be sure
[07:07] <Macer> can someone direct me to a way to get a cuda supported media player?
[07:07] <Macer> does vlc support it?
[07:12] <Macer> nm..looks like it does :)
[07:12] <Macer> awesome
[07:36] <bunnycarrots> So I have just done a clean install of Kubuntu. I have some issues with my mouse(focus issues) It's a known issue with the mouse and there is this known fix: (http://fcns.eu/2011/04/cyborg-rat-7-mouse-under-linux/)
[07:36] <bunnycarrots> But
[07:36] <bunnycarrots> Xorg.conf has been depreciated
[07:37] <bunnycarrots> So... how would I go about fixing this?
[07:37] <bunnycarrots> I run GNOME on my laptop, have tried the fix there and it works flawlessly. Just not sure how to go about this on the KDE end of things.
[07:39] <gennro> you can still use the xorg.conf file
[07:39] <bunnycarrots> it doesn't exist
[07:39] <Tm_T> you can create it
[07:39] <bunnycarrots> oh, really?
[07:39] <gennro> yup
[07:39] <gennro> I use it to set nvidia options
[07:39] <Macer> well... even with cuda this thing has a problem keepign up with 1080p
[07:39] <Macer> :)
[07:39] <Macer> vlc skips
[07:40] <Tm_T> I wonder if this helps to get you started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[07:40] <Macer> although it does a much better job than dragon or mplayer without cuda
[07:40] <bunnycarrots> is there anything that needs to be in there other than the fix? like some heading or such?
[07:40] <gennro> cause AFIK there is no other way to set nvidia based device options without it
[07:40] <Macer> which is odd because the same hardware running coreavc kicked ass for this sort of thing
[07:41] <gennro> i'll pastebin my xorg.conf
[07:41] <gennro> so you can change it to your liking
[07:41] <Tm_T> bunnycarrots: I'm not entirely sure, you can try simply having that part first
[07:41] <Macer> heh
[07:41] <Macer> there's no more xorgconfig ?
[07:41] <Tm_T> gennro: it's better if he had the absolute minimum required in the conf
[07:41] <Macer> :) well.. used to be xf86config
[07:41] <Macer> where you had to go through the questions?
[07:41]  * Macer remembers that torture
[07:42] <bunnycarrots> Tm_T Actually I think I solved it. The ati drivers created a very basic xorg conf for me, so I'm adding it to the end
[07:42] <bunnycarrots> awesomesauce
[07:42] <bunnycarrots> thanks everyone~! ^_^
[07:42] <Tm_T> bunnycarrots: ah, that's very good
[07:42] <gennro> http://pastebin.com/Fb9vV9af
[07:42] <Macer> i sure wish this cuda stuff worked better
[07:42] <Macer> i'll have to test it out some more
[07:43] <Macer> at least vlc finally supports it :) that's always a plus
[07:43] <bunnycarrots> reboot time, wish me luck xD and thanks again
[07:45] <gennro> hmmm what all supports CUDA in linux.... very few things right?
[07:50] <werwolfanet> join #python
[08:27] <jkinable> Morning
[08:27] <jkinable> Since I recently upgraded my kubuntu installation to the latest 11.4, I'm having problems with my KDE
[08:27] <jkinable> Currently I cannot open windows in my taskbar by left clicking on them
[08:28] <jkinable> Not sure how to troubleshoot this problem
[08:28] <deus1> any suggestions?
[08:32] <c-c-m> hello, is there any way to customize login screen in Kubuntu 11.04?
[08:33] <c-c-m> there used to be a way in 10.10
[09:21] <iroshan> yo yo
[09:33] <ravi> hi guys
[09:36] <ryan_> floodbotk1, sorry for last week... lthough I feel i wasn't spamming in a dead room...ur right...I could have presented my 11.4 issues in ubuntu+1 insted
[09:40] <GuestTH> Hi there. Sorry for a stupid question, but how to run OOO3.4beta on kubuntu natty, if "openoffice.org" in konsole suggest to reinstall libreoffice?
[09:41] <ryan_> whats 0003.4 beta?
[09:41] <GuestTH> oh sorry just OpenOffice 3.4b
[09:44] <yofel> GuestTH: you'll probably need to add sources for it, we only ship libreoffice 3.3 in natty
[09:45] <ryan_> guestTh, open office and Libre office **right now** are pretty much the same...
[09:45] <ryan_> I'd not worry about it too much
[09:45] <GuestTH> yofel, im just thinking about the future. Thank you. But wasnt it possible to make installation from deb's...
[09:46] <xenogia> Hi Guys I'm using Kubuntu 11.04 and I am having issues with getting a camera to work.  It finds the camera but gives me "Unspecified Error 150".  Any suggestions, I think it is a privelages problem.
[09:47] <yofel> GuestTH: we replaced openoffice with libreoffice in natty, that's why the openoffice packages were removed, and I don't think it's planned to ship openoffice again. *If* it'll be shipped the packages will get fixed at that time
[09:51] <ryan_> xenogia, for what program ?
[09:51] <xenogia> ahh jost opening it up in dolphin
[09:51] <xenogia> just*
[09:51] <ryan_> ur trying to open a web cam in dolphin?
[09:52] <ryan_> lol
[09:52] <ryan_> sorry
[09:52] <ryan_> try this xenogia
[09:52] <ryan_> install shotwell
[09:53] <ryan_> it will work better
[10:12] <xenogia> cheers ryan_
[10:14] <Tarun> hey please help me on this stuff
[10:16] <Tarun> i am installing skype on kubuntu10.04 but when i install the packege it display an error that "wrong architecture "amd64".
[10:16] <Tarun> pls help me out
[10:16] <Tarun> what is amd64
[10:18] <Tarun> hellooooo
[10:18] <Tarun> plz help me
[10:41] <guidol> hi there, am running Kubuntu 11.04 and I can't seem to get DROPBOX to work - anyone having troubles with this as well?  I don't get a link url, can not link my computer :(
[10:52] <shadeslayer> guidol: mostly everyone is busy with UDS this week, so you might not get a answer this week ....
[10:55] <guidol> shadeslayer: right, no problem, thanks for the notice - and good luck @ UDS
[10:55] <shadeslayer> guidol: i'm attending remotely ;)
[10:57] <lionzw> i wonder why
[10:57] <lionzw> ; - p
[11:01] <xaphotic> hey guys how do i make my partition /storage read wright allways with no password acess?????
[11:02] <xaphotic> anyone?
[11:08] <MarcoPau> hello, just upgraded to maverick from lucid and the panel has disappeared. killed plasma-desktop and relaunched it, but still no panel. you have any hint?
[11:24] <ashmew2> I cant use apt-get anymore , i keep getting a package has empty filename , full error msg here : http://pastie.org/1880699 , Please help :'(
[11:25] <guidol> shadeslayer: got my Dropbox problem fixed, had to manually configure my proxy settings in the dropbox client as well
[11:27] <Peace-> ashmew2:
[11:27] <ashmew2> Peace- ?
[11:27] <Peace-> ashmew2: mm which command did you use?
[11:27] <ashmew2> sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:27] <Peace-> ashmew2: weird repository added?
[11:28] <Peace-> ashmew2: sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <ashmew2> Peace- : sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:28] <ashmew2> no weird repos added
[11:28] <Peace-> ashmew2: do sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <ashmew2> it was fine and then it just flipped
[11:28] <ashmew2> its working
[11:28] <ashmew2> and after that ?
[11:28] <ashmew2> it updated
[11:29] <Peace-> no errors?
[11:29] <ashmew2> none via the sudo apt-get update
[11:29] <ashmew2> Fetched 72 B in 10s (7 B/s)
[11:29] <ashmew2> Reading package lists... Done
[11:29] <Peace-> ok let's try to install some software like , sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[11:29] <ashmew2> same error as in the pastebin
[11:29] <Peace-> post please all the eror
[11:29] <Peace-> erro
[11:29] <Peace-> -.-
[11:30] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880699
[11:30] <Peace-> ashmew2: ok have you another kernel to use after?
[11:30] <ashmew2> um , wait , uname -r will do the listing ?
[11:31] <Peace-> nope
[11:31] <ashmew2> how do i list all the kernels ? i dont have others installed as far as i remember
[11:31] <ashmew2> .
[11:31] <Peace-> cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:31] <ashmew2> GRUB shows only one
[11:31] <Peace-> i guess
[11:32] <ashmew2> submenu "Previous Linux versions" {
[11:32] <ashmew2> menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.35-28-generic'
[11:32] <ashmew2> has this
[11:32] <ashmew2> and the 2.6.38.8 as well
[11:34] <Peace-> no other one ?
[11:34] <Peace-> ashmew2: post all the stuff ...
[11:35] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880732
[11:36] <Peace-> ashmew2: ok you have an old kernel
[11:36] <ashmew2> ok  , so what is our plan of action
[11:36] <Peace-> wait a second i will write the comand
[11:37] <Peace-> ashmew2: try this sudo dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic
[11:37] <Peace-> ashmew2: this will remove the kernel
[11:37] <Peace-> you have another one so
[11:37] <Peace-> after that
[11:37] <Peace-> we wil try to reinstall it again
[11:38] <ashmew2> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic (--remove):
[11:38] <ashmew2>  dependency problems - not removing
[11:38] <ashmew2> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:38] <ashmew2>  linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic
[11:38] <FloodBotK1> ashmew2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <Peace-> ashmew2:  post all the stuff...
[11:38] <Peace-> i can't keep to write this anymore
[11:39] <ashmew2> wait im pasting on pastie
[11:39] <Peace-> ashmew2: there is a plasmoid for paste job
[11:39] <Peace-> did yoiu know?
[11:39] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880743
[11:40] <ashmew2> wait lemme find plasmoid
[11:40] <Peace-> ashmew2: it is called pastebin
[11:40] <Peace-> add to desktop then drag and drop on it image or test
[11:40] <ashmew2> kk
[11:41] <Peace-> ashmew2: mm this is bad
[11:41] <Peace-> ashmew2: i guess there is a bug for this
[11:41] <Peace-> ashmew2: did you do a backup of your datas?
[11:42] <Peace-> ashmew2: because what i am writing could have some risks
[11:42] <ashmew2> nah , no datas required...i have a folder of *.deb that i can use if i have to reinstall , its a pain in the ass anyways though
[11:42] <ashmew2> yeah , just give me the codes
[11:42] <Peace-> ashmew2: sure about that?
[11:42] <ashmew2> yeah
[11:42] <ashmew2> :P
[11:42] <Peace-> ashmew2:  sudo dpkg -r linux-image-generic
[11:43] <ashmew2> same error of dependencies
[11:43] <Peace-> ashmew2: paste
[11:43] <ashmew2> pastebin.com not opening here , im using pastie again..
[11:43] <Note-book> KDE is messed up for me after applying the "recommended" Nvidia drivers. Since then I haven't had any luck with fixing it. I tried removing nvidia-current and removing xorg.conf and restarting my session but to no avail. My windows don't have titlebars and there's no transparency either. Windows lose focus if I remove the mouse from them.
[11:43] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880750
[11:44] <Note-book> I'm on Natty by the way
[11:45] <Peace-> ashmew2:  ok     type this    when you typed  press TAB and paste again :    sudo dpkg -r linux-image-
[11:46] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880753
[11:47] <Peace-> ashmew2: this is a weird bug
[11:47] <Peace-> ashmew2: wait a moment
[11:48] <Peace-> ashmew2: it could be very daungerous ...
[11:48] <ashmew2> im not really concerned about my / or /home partitions , they are expendable
[11:49] <Peace-> ashmew2: ::::::: >  danger>     sudo dpkg --force-all -r linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic
[11:49] <ashmew2> k
[11:50] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880762
[11:50] <Peace-> wow
[11:50] <Peace-> xD
[11:50] <ashmew2> what ?
[11:51] <Peace-> ashmew2: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:51] <Peace-> sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:51] <Peace-> sudo apt-get purge
[11:51] <Peace-> sudo apt-get clean
[11:51] <Peace-> all into paste
[11:55] <ashmew2> http://pastie.org/1880772
[11:55] <ashmew2> same error on everything , or apt-get breaks with plead for dpkg configure -a
[11:56] <Peace-> ashmew2: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:56] <Peace-> ashmew2: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:57] <ashmew2> no output
[11:57] <ashmew2> but same problem(s)
[11:57] <Peace-> mm
[11:57] <Peace-> please paste the output
[11:57] <Peace-> everytime
[11:57] <Peace-> wtf
[11:59] <ashmew2> erm.> ? i pasted all the outputs in the last pastie..dpkg --configure -a gives no output at all , just returns to prompt.
[12:00] <Peace-> ashmew2: ok
[12:00] <Peace-> ashmew2: sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[12:00] <Peace-> ashmew2: what did it say?
[12:01] <ashmew2> its downloading packages right now
[12:02] <Peace-> ashmew2: maybe it's fixed cross fingers
[12:02] <ashmew2> Peace- LOL.
[12:02] <ShimiChen> I installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu and firefox&thunderbird look windows-2000-like
[12:03] <ShimiChen> Is there a proper theme to install?
[12:03] <Peace-> xD
[12:03] <Peace-> ShimiChen: yep there is some problems
[12:04] <ashmew2> same errors...http://pastie.org/1880783
[12:04] <ShimiChen> I understand there is no fix?
[12:05] <Peace-> ShimiChen: there are of course
[12:05] <Peace-> ShimiChen: install this package : http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/09/plasma-desktoplT1712.jpg
[12:06] <Peace-> ShimiChen: then we will talk about the problem
[12:06] <ShimiChen> Thank you :) will try that package
[12:06] <Peace-> ashmew2: no way i have no idea i guess some upgrading package has problem
[12:07] <Peace-> ashmew2: we can try to installa another kernel
[12:07] <Peace-> with dpkg
[12:07] <Peace-> but this is dangerous
[12:07] <Peace-> of coruse
[12:07] <ShimiChen> It is already installed
[12:08] <ashmew2> Peace- Im ready if u can guide me :P
[12:08] <Peace-> ashmew2: ok  try with some you can pick here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[12:09] <Peace-> ashmew2: i guess you could try the 2.39
[12:09] <Peace-> ashmew2: of course is not stable and it could damage your systemm lost of data...
[12:09] <Peace-> etc...
[12:09] <Peace-> so...
[12:09] <Peace-> ShimiChen: ok
[12:09] <Peace-> now
[12:10] <Peace-> you have to set some stuff ShimiChen
[12:10] <ashmew2> v2.6.39-rc4-natty would do ?
[12:10] <Peace-> ashmew2: you can try it
[12:10] <ShimiChen> ok
[12:10] <Peace-> ShimiChen: is it installed firefox-kde-support?
[12:11] <ShimiChen> yes
[12:11] <ashmew2> um , do i save the whole directory ?
[12:11] <Peace-> ashmew2: nope
[12:11] <Peace-> ashmew2: 64 bit?
[12:11] <Peace-> or 32bit?
[12:12] <ashmew2> i386 downloading
[12:12] <ashmew2> .
[12:12] <Peace-> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.39-rc4-natty/linux-image-2.6.39-020639rc4-generic_2.6.39-020639rc4.201104191410_i386.deb
[12:12] <ashmew2> linux headers and the linux image
[12:12] <Peace-> yep
[12:12] <Peace-> nice
[12:12] <ashmew2> yeah downloading that
[12:12] <ashmew2> on a 512 kbps connection , will take some time
[12:12] <Peace-> ShimiChen: ShimiChenok  open firefox
[12:12] <Peace-> ShimiChen: and go on here
[12:13] <Peace-> ShimiChen: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/09/plasma-desktopwU1712.jpg
[12:13] <Peace-> ShimiChen: with kubuntu live cd you would not have this problem..
[12:13] <Peace-> anyway..
[12:14] <ShimiChen> Ok great firefox looks nice
[12:15] <ShimiChen> Thanks
[12:15] <ShimiChen> Is there something similar to Thunderbird?
[12:15] <ShimiChen> I can't find a thunderbird-kde package
[12:16] <Peace-> kde handle gtk software with the engine
[12:16] <Peace-> ShimiChen: ALT F2 ==> systemsettings
[12:17] <ShimiChen> I'm there
[12:18] <Peace-> ShimiChen: there is on top righ a filter bar
[12:18] <Peace-> ShimiChen: type application app
[12:18] <ShimiChen> ok found it
[12:19] <ShimiChen> selection box was empty, picked oxygen-gtk and it looks fine now :)
[12:19] <ShimiChen> thank you!
[12:19] <Peace-> :)
[12:20] <MarcoPau> hi, just upgraded to maverick from lucid and the panel has disappeared. killed plasma-desktop and relaunched it, but still no panel. you have any hint?
[12:22] <ashmew2> Peace: installing the *image*.deb
[12:24] <ashmew2> Wont let me install
[12:25] <Peace-> ashmew2: mm
[12:25] <Peace-> MarcoPau: rigth button on the desktop
[12:25] <Peace-> MarcoPau: add default panel
[12:27] <Peace-> ashmew2: i am here
[12:27] <Peace-> i am trying to figure out the problem
[12:27] <shrini_> is there any good irc client?
[12:27] <Peace-> ashmew2: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:27] <shrini_> like pidgin?
[12:28] <Peace-> shrini_: konversation ?
[12:28] <shrini_> in kde?
[12:28] <shrini_> Peace-: it is not showing IRC protocol
[12:28] <MarcoPau> Peace-: thank you it was that simple
[12:29] <Peace-> shrini_: http://userbase.kde.org/Applications/Internet
[12:29] <ashmew2> Peace: same error.
[12:29] <Peace-> ashmew2: i am talking about that wait
[12:29] <shrinivasan> Peace-:  joined via konversation
[12:29] <shrinivasan> Peace-: it seems good
[12:29] <shrinivasan> thanks
[12:29] <Peace-> MarcoPau: are you italian ?
[12:30] <Peace-> -.-
[12:38] <Peace-> ashmew2: talking
[12:38] <Peace-> xD
[12:38] <Peace-> never seen that
[12:39] <Peace-> ashmew2: udo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic
[12:59] <ashwin> chromium browser is not responding
[13:01] <ashwin> anyone there
[13:03] <kurtul> ashwin: it never works?
[13:04] <ashwin> it worked before
[13:04] <kurtul> but now you launch it, and it never responds?
[13:05] <ashwin> yes
[13:05] <kurtul> what about the other browsers? do you have chrome?
[13:06] <ashwin> others browsers are working.no chrome
[13:11] <kurtul> ashwin: I would remove ~/.config/chromium and try again. i don't know if there's another way to fix it.
[13:14] <ashwin> how to delete that
[13:15] <kurtul> rm -rf ~/.config/chromium
[13:16] <arnoud_> hi, i'm having some trouble with the phonon / audio setup. without a notice it just 'changes' to pulse audio server. I haven't touched an audio device at that time. It really seems random. which application can do that?
[13:19] <ashwin> still not working
[13:21] <kurtul> ashwin: did you kill and relaunch it?
[13:21] <ashwin> no
[13:21] <ashwin> kill??
[13:23] <kurtul> ashwin: press ctrl+esc, select chrome process (or processes if more than one) and click end process.
[13:23] <kurtul> arnoud_: did you try to remove pulseaudio?
[13:24] <arnoud_> kurtul: well in the phonon audio i tried it, i haven't tried it with packages, is that what you mean?
[13:25] <arnoud_> ashwin: you can also try in the commandline killall chromium-browser
[13:25] <ashwin> kurtul:no chrome process  in it
[13:26] <kurtul> arnoud_: yes. not because i know something. but whenever i have sound problems with skype, i remove pulseaudio package and it fixes the problem. that's why i thought it might help
[13:28] <arnoud_> still it intrigues me to no end which program can just 'change' my internal audio setup (which has both my coax digital and my analog output at the samen time.) i have an idea that it can be amarok, but i'm not sure how since it just happens in the middle of normal playing
[13:29] <arnoud_> ashwin: what is the problem with chromium actually?
[13:30] <ashwin> it is not responding
[13:31] <kurtul> ashwin: can you try: ps aux| grep chromium
[13:32] <kurtul> does that give any output?
[13:32] <ashwin> ashwin    2234  0.0  0.0   4156   864 pts/1    S+   18:02   0:00 grep --color=auto chromium
[13:35] <arnoud_> ashwin: do you mean it doesn't respond after you killed the process of just right after you launched it?
[13:36] <ashwin> after i launched
[13:37] <arnoud_> i'm not sure how linux handles plugins or add-ons with chromium.. are they all in ~.chromium/ ?
[13:38] <ashwin> i dont know
[13:38] <ashwin> i just deleted it
[13:38] <kurtul> ashwin: do you still have chromium frozen on the screen?
[13:39] <arnoud_> otherwise kill -9 PID (of chromium would do best :D)
[13:40] <ashwin> kurturl:no,it is in taskbar for sometime
[13:41] <kurtul> can you try: kill -9 2234
[13:41] <ashwin> no such process
[13:42] <kurtul> in this case the only thing i would think is rebooting the computer i guess.
[13:43] <ashwin> i tried that
[13:44] <kurtul> did you try it after deleting?
[13:44] <ashwin> no
[13:47] <ashwin> still no use
[13:49] <arnoud_> well i would reboot, but i'm just a linux newbie. See what happens. i'm gonna reboot because my problem with my audio just solves itselfs, usually after a reboot. Though i really hate that
[13:52] <ashwin> rebooting doesnt solve mine
[13:52] <m0rn> Здравствуйте, а здесь есть рускоязычные люди?
[13:53] <arnoud_> Здравствуйте, а здесь есть рускоязычные люди? ... yeah :)
[13:55] <ashwin> нет
[13:58] <Pici> !ru | ashwin
[14:06] <sean_w>  Hi. Somehow I made the favorite folders vanish from kmail. How can I get the pane back?
[14:16] <ua2> hello  evrybody
[14:20] <ua2> in order to import pdf file, i should install an extention  "Oracle PDF Import Extension "  how do i install it?  thanks
[14:27] <ua2> it's ok,  this is command line " sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-pdfimport
[14:27] <ua2> thanks
[14:42] <ua2> hello everybody,
[14:49] <greek> how can i turn off the drag window feature of kubuntu ? i like the drag window with window titlebar, not the drag window with ehat ever else you can click and hold.. this extra ability interfears with one of my apps ... :(
[14:49] <greek> i checked the system settings.. in mouse and window behaviour and found nothing to altet this ..
[14:51] <greek> any body know how to fix this ?
[14:51] <greek> o
[14:51] <greek> o_O any body home ?
[14:52] <greek> danttii do you know ?
[14:53] <greek> do people join an irc channel for the soul reason of showing up on a user list box in an irc client ?
[14:53]  * Pici shrugs
[14:53] <greek> :)
[14:53] <Pici> I'd answer, but I don't use KDE myself.
[14:53] <greek> no answer is ok... every one afk is irritating ..
[14:54] <DarthFrog> greek: Perhaps folks don't know the answer to your question.
[14:55] <greek> perhaps DarthFrog
[14:55] <greek> it is nt that i was not answered, it is that no one is even talking
[14:56] <DarthFrog> Chacun a son gout.
[14:56] <DarthFrog> This is a tech support channel not a talk/social channel.  For that you want #kubuntu-offtopic.
[14:56] <greek> any idea where io can find the answer to this problem DarthFrog ?
[14:56] <greek> oh... ic
[14:57] <DarthFrog> I'm not sure what your problem is.  I couldn't parse your statement.
[14:57] <greek> either way, there are no users (of this huge list) asking questions
[14:57] <DarthFrog> Again, each to their own.
[14:57] <greek> i can structure the question differently
[14:58] <DarthFrog> You might want to structure it so you clearly communicate.
[14:58] <DarthFrog> But I'm only going to tell you that it'll be done in SystemSettings, which you've already tried.
[14:59] <DarthFrog> But, FWIW, only by grabbing the title bar can I move my window.
[15:00] <greek> Kubuntu has a feature (like windows and mac) that alows the grabbing and dragging of a window by it's title bar. kubuntu seems to go a step further and alows you to grab open areas  inside the window to drag the window.
[15:01] <DarthFrog> When I do that, the contents of what the mouse moves over is selected.
[15:01] <DarthFrog> At least it does in this IRC client window (Konversation).
[15:01] <greek> this added feature prevents me from operating one of a programs because when i drag the pionter inside of that window it moves the window..
[15:01] <DarthFrog> Or in dolphin, a rectangular selection box is made.
[15:02] <DarthFrog> Just in that program or in all windows?
[15:02] <greek> just the one program
[15:02] <greek> "recordmydesktop"
[15:02] <DarthFrog> Umm, perhaps its not KDE that's causing your problem?
[15:03] <greek> i am unable to complete the creation of a rectangle area.
[15:03] <greek> my intention was to turn the added feature off.
[15:04] <DarthFrog> It would seem to me that if it happened in all programs, it would be a KDE issue.  But if it's specific to one program, then the resolution of that issue probably lies in the configuration of that program.
[15:04] <greek> for example: in this irc client (quassel IRC) i can click on the right side of the menu bar and move this window
[15:05] <kaj> morning
[15:05] <greek> hi kaj
[15:05] <kaj> showing wife how irssi works on irc without a gui
[15:06] <greek> good, gui dependency limits our ability to reason :p
[15:06] <DarthFrog> kaj: And how is your wife responding to life at the CLI? :-)
[15:07] <greek> so, i suspect restricting window move to the title bar is not possable...
[15:07] <greek> bitchx was nice :D
[15:07] <kaj> wife prefers her way..W7 and all that goes with it :)
[15:08] <greek> M$ winddoze ... o_O
[15:08] <DarthFrog> kaj: Don't fight battles you can't win. :-)
[15:08] <greek> thanks DarthFrog
[15:09] <kaj> I'll join you guys in a few mins where the font is readable ...it's much too small to red ar this distance
[15:09] <DarthFrog> greek: You're welcome.  As I said, I can't duplicate your problem; I'm running Natty with KDE SC 4.6.2
[15:09] <greek> when you take a cource in M$Office, students are expected to know keyboard shortcuts because they are faster then operating the GUI :p
[15:11] <BluesKaj> eyes are still watering from the strain :)
[15:12] <greek> with linux, you are not forced into buying more ram and hard drive space .. these become optional because there is no drive create obsoletion (pardon spelling errors)
[15:13] <greek> windows was desinged to require more ram, more storage, faster CPUs, faster system boards, third party software, and so on.. by design , you will be perpetially busy with a intentionally flawed system..
[15:14] <greek> mac is no ommited from this feature
[15:28] <greek> Does any one know where i can find KDE tech support in IRC ?
[15:28] <claviceps_> hi, just installed 11.04 and now all my videos (dragon player, vlc, ...) have a wrong hue (i.e. all the people are blue); what's going on?
[15:29] <greek> is your GFX driver installed claviceps_?
[15:30] <claviceps_> sure, the recommendet nvidia driver
[15:31] <nucleophase> greek: I think #kde is the channel you're looking for.
[15:31] <greek> have you tried  " x server color correction" in the "nvidia x server settings" ?
[15:31] <greek> thanks nucleophase
[15:32] <greek> claviceps_: ?
[15:33]  * greek also has an nvidia 
[15:33]  * greek is in #kde 
[15:34] <claviceps_> why should i? that's a global setting (and doesn't include hue); everything else has the correct color, just videos don't
[15:34] <greek> oh... then this is beyond my ability to assist claviceps_
[15:35] <claviceps_> aaah, wait, "xvideo settings" has a hue slider which actually only affects video output :)
[15:35] <greek> what videos are you playing ? web? local?
[15:35] <claviceps_> local
[15:35] <greek> oh, very well then :)
[15:35] <claviceps_> and while we are at it: does playing video from a samba share work for you?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> I have nvidai graphics on 2 machines , never encountered such a problem
[15:36] <BonesOfTheNight> Hello. I wonder, is there a way to disable the Dolphin feature that makes a context menu whenever you drag a file? It's really annoying.
[15:36] <greek> never tried LAN streaming in linux
[15:39] <greek> why disable the context menu ? and i also do not see an option to disable this.
[15:40] <greek> i did find an option to add move/copy and delte to it though :)
[15:40] <greek> delete*
[15:40] <claviceps_> damnit, restarting the player reset the nvidia settings ....
[15:41] <greek> try konqueror ... :)
[15:41] <greek> BonesOfTheNight:
[15:42] <greek> you are not stuck with only dolphin
[15:42] <greek> this sint windoze :p
[15:42] <greek> isnt*
[15:42] <BonesOfTheNight> I like Dolphin. But that feature that activates the context menu just for dragging, is really annoying, I'll check Konqueror now.
[15:43] <BonesOfTheNight> Konqueror has the same feature! :(
[15:43] <greek> i know that konqueror was in use long before dolphine in linux distrobutions
[15:44] <greek> oh...
[15:44]  * greek checks konq's settings
[15:44] <BonesOfTheNight> I mean, it's not a deal breaker, but every time I give KDE another try, it's the little things that bug me. So this time I decided I'd ask and try to tweak it.
[15:45] <BonesOfTheNight> Well, I'm checking Konqueror's settings. At least it's more KDE 3.x, it has lots of options.
[15:45] <greek> wow, the menu options are seemingly identical
[15:46]  * greek shrugs ... 
[15:46] <BonesOfTheNight> :(
[15:47] <tcmartins> Is there any particular reason for knotify4 to use 100% cpu?
[15:48] <greek> concider yourself better off BonesOfTheNight, claviceps_ has local video playback color issues and i am not able to use the opengl rendering of the kde desktop effects (this limits the number of desktop effects features a get to use)
[15:48] <greek> all in all, i think claviceps_ is worse off then both of us together BonesOfTheNight ;)
[15:49] <greek> if i use opengl, i get soem blank windows
[15:49] <greek> some*
[15:50] <BonesOfTheNight> Yes. That puts things into perspective. I can say that right now, KDE4 is *working* for me.
[15:52] <BonesOfTheNight> Another thing, in Konqueror I've got video thumbnails activated, but I get no thumbnails. Why? It works in Dolphin.
[15:54] <BluesKaj> konqueror hasn't been worked on much since kde 3 as a file manager...dolphin became the default
[15:55] <BluesKaj> it doesn't even work very well as browser anymore
[15:57] <BonesOfTheNight> BluesKaj: why was Konqueror left behind like that? It was like a symbol of KDE.
[15:59] <claviceps_> wonderfull, while searching for a solution i found a "solved" bugreport from 2007 with the exact same problem ....
[16:05] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, not sure , I think there was power struggle amongst the devs about which direction kde was going to go...some thought konq was becoming too bloated and clunky , ok as browser but it shouldn't manage files , so dolphin was chosen...that was one story I heard
[16:07] <e_t_> A couple of times lately, I've restarted my computer normally and had it come back up showing disk errors. So far, an fsck makes everything OK again, but I wonder if my hard drive is on the way to failure?
[16:08] <claviceps_> e_t_: check what S.M.A.R.T tells you
[16:08] <e_t_> S.M.A.R.T. gives it a clean bill of health.
[16:08] <e_t_> But disk errors aren't a good thing.
[16:10] <BonesOfTheNight> BluesKaj: well, that's too bad. :( But Dolphin is all right, I guess. Konqueror seems more configurable.
[16:10] <wea0> Since the upgrade to Kubuntu 11.04 (amd64) my virtual terminals are broken. When I press Ctrl+Alt+FX all I get is a black screen with a blue line on top.
[16:12] <claviceps_> wea0: i get the all the time when updating graphics drivers
[16:13] <shane4kubuntu> sometimes, I accidentally mouse up in the left hand corner, and up pop all my windows on my screen, however I can't seem to figure out the how to reproduce this?  Any ideas?  Also where is this configured at?  I kind of like it.
[16:13] <claviceps_> this is really retarded; do they want to fore people to stop using nvidia/ati graphics cards?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, what's the prob with dolphin , in your case.
[16:13] <trickshot> hi
[16:14] <wea0> shane4kubuntu: System settings -> workspace -> workspace -> screen edges
[16:14] <shane4kubuntu> wea0: thanks,
[16:15] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, which nvidia card and driver are you using
[16:15] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:16] <trickshot> I have 3 users and I'm trying to let one of them login without the need of a password. I have selected the Activate authentication without password and selected the user but it doesn't work. How can I do this?
[16:16] <claviceps_> it's a 8400; the driver is the "recommendet" one; very clever that the don't write the version number there
[16:17] <tcmartins> hmm, does anyone know anything about knotify4 and kded4 using 100% cpu?
[16:18] <claviceps_> tcmartins: had that yesterday; is the owner of the process by any chance root?
[16:18] <BonesOfTheNight> BluesKaj: I don't have a real problem, just a nuisance. I want to disable the context menu that appears when you drag files. Why can't it be like in Nautilus or Windows and just *move* the file? I don't want a menu popping up every time I move a file. It makes the process take two steps instead of one.
[16:18] <tcmartins> claviceps_: nope, I am the owner
[16:18] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, I have a 8400gs on this pc , connected to a panasonic plasma tv /monitor , I havent encountered any hue probs , the driver is the nvidia-current
[16:19] <claviceps_> BluesKaj: the funny thing is: i didn't have that issue with the upgrade from 10.11 to 11.04; but with a fresh install i everything is fucked ...
[16:21] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, after the fresh install did you choose the rec'd driver / nvidia-current, I have to ask
[16:21] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, also watch the lingo , pls
[16:22] <claviceps_> actually i didn't choose anything; but during the install i checked the "proprietary packages" which, so i guess, installed the nvidia-current
[16:23] <claviceps_> at least the "additional drivers" program tells me so
[16:25] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, open dolphin/settings/configure dolphin/general/conrext menu/uncheck the "show" boxes ther
[16:25] <BluesKaj> there
[16:26] <trickshot> how do I copy icons from desktop using console?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, run sudo apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[16:27] <trickshot> can't find the folder :(
[16:27] <BonesOfTheNight> No, that's not it. The two boxes there are unchecked. It still shows a context menu when moving files.
[16:27] <BonesOfTheNight> But thanks for helping.
[16:28] <claviceps_> BluesKaj:   Installed: (none)  Candidate: 270.41.06-0ubuntu1 ... what's going on???
[16:29] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, you don't have the driver installed , choose it in kmenu/apps/system/additional drivers
[16:31] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, that's real odd IMO , I have the same setting
[16:31] <BluesKaj> even in the split mode
[16:32] <BonesOfTheNight> So you can move a file directly without a popup context menu appearing?
[16:33] <BonesOfTheNight> Simply moving within the same folder, a context menu shows up with options to copy, link, or cancel. Do not want.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> no I mean the context menu pops up even in the split mode
[16:35] <BluesKaj> I think this is a question for the #KDE chat
[16:36] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[16:37] <BonesOfTheNight> I didn't go there 'cause I figured it'd be full of people with actual problems and they'd ignore me, but sure, I'll try there.
[16:37] <BonesOfTheNight> And yes, it pops up in split mode too.
[16:38] <claviceps_> BluesKaj: that fixed it :)
[16:39] <BluesKaj> claviceps_, good :)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, I've found the crew at #KDE rather unhelpful over the yrs , but it's worth a shot .
[16:43] <BonesOfTheNight> That's too bad. I guess they're busy with meta-problems. Hence the channels name. Now, is there a dolphin specific channel?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> no dolphin chat on freenoce
[16:44] <BluesKaj> freenode
[16:45] <claviceps_> why is my hostname "claviceps-System-Product-Name"? why was there no prompt for that during install?
[16:45] <kubu2> claviceps_: you were not looking
[16:46] <belisarivs> Hello all. video thumbnails don't work for me. I tried to debug it, but I have no idea how. Did anybody fiddle with it before?
[16:46] <belisarivs> I tried both kffmpegthumbnailer nad mplayerthumbs
[16:49] <ho> my keyboard is not working properly, no semi-colon and shift+most keys doesnt work
[16:49] <kubu2> BonesOfTheNight: not everyone wants that behavior -move
[16:51] <kubu2> BonesOfTheNight: when you drag files, press Ctl to copy or Shift to move
[16:51] <ho> chaning keyboard in systemsettings(between the generic types) changes nothing
[16:53] <BonesOfTheNight> I don't really want to do that, but I guess it's the closest there is to doing it in one step. You sure there's not setting to customize it?
[16:54] <kubu2> BonesOfTheNight: moving w/o prompt is bad imho
[16:55] <kubu2> haven't looked into it as I'm happy with it
[16:56] <BonesOfTheNight> kubu2: well, in my opinion it's practical not to have to stop with every file you move. It breaks the flow. Also, humanity have lived thousands of years moving files in their OSes without prompts and everyone got by just fine. Why so prompty?
[17:01] <kubu2> BonesOfTheNight: bec a move has a delete operation? just to be safe I guess.  Thousand years? what planet are you from?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> BonesOfTheNight, I think the idea is the optins one has to either move. copy or delete etc ..it does have some advantages fro my viewpoint
[17:05] <BonesOfTheNight> I wouldn't even bother anyone with this question, if it weren't 'cause the best file manager I've seen, Nautilus, doesn't get along so nicely with KDE, but that's how things are. :( Dolphin is close, though.
[17:07] <abkde> can someone tell me what is different between kubuntu update ppa and backport repository?
[17:10] <kubu2> BonesOfTheNight: what is best for you is worse for others.  I find Nautilus very lacking like in creating links
[17:12] <BonesOfTheNight> Still, I didn't think it was asking too much in wanting maybe a checkbox to disable the context menu. Even it wasn't set to my preference, at least it'd exist.
[17:13] <BluesKaj> abkde, the backport is the official release kde version for kubuntu , I believe the update is alpha or beta versions in kde development
[17:14] <murali> not able watch youtube videos on firefox. plz help
[17:14] <DarthFrog> murali: Why not?
[17:14] <MacMan1> Having some trouble installing Kubuntu, mounting fails early on.  Ideas?
[17:15] <delac> trying to compile dolphin (and rest of kdebase), but the lib-hierarchy doesn't match that of default installation. e.g. libkdeinit4_*-so files go directly to lib folder when in Kubuntu they are in lib/kde4/libkdeinit. I did take the sources from the packages.ubuntu.com. Any easy way to make this work?
[17:15] <murali> i dnt kno. but i can them with chrome. but not with firefox. not only youtube videos but any other streaming videos from diffrnt website
[17:16] <DarthFrog> murali: Do you have flash installed?
[17:16] <murali> how do i do that?
[17:16] <abkde> BluesKaj, but kde 4.6.3 is in kubuntu-ppa now, is it a beta version of kde?
[17:16] <murali> i dnt know how to install flash in kubuntu
[17:17] <delac> murali: install restricted-extras for kubuntu
[17:17] <murali> how do i do tht?
[17:17] <Guest46511> any human?
[17:18] <delac> murali: do you know how to use synaptics?
[17:18] <DarthFrog> murali: Use Applications/System/Software Management to install flashplugin-installer.
[17:18] <Guest46511> yo babes
[17:18] <murali> not quite
[17:18] <Guest46511> saminamna waka waka
[17:18] <BluesKaj> abkde, yes I believe so, it's not in the backports afaik ..I do a dist update/upgrade every few days to keep kde current
[17:18] <delac> murali: in that case the second suggestion is better
[17:18] <Guest46511> wtf
[17:19] <Guest46511> abe tumhari maa keee ankh
[17:19] <Guest46511> mein do laddu
[17:19] <Peace-> Guest46511: ?
[17:19] <delac> murali: use the software management to install flashplugin-installer or the restricted extras
[17:19] <Guest46511> ?
[17:19] <murali> do i have to search "flash plugin" in software management?
[17:20] <Guest46511> what do you want peace?
[17:20] <abkde> do you know when it be available in backport repository?
[17:20] <Peace-> Guest46511: english please
[17:20] <Peace-> .
[17:20] <DarthFrog> murali: Follow your nose.
[17:21] <delac> murali: I recommend you search for "restricted" and select the "Kubuntu Restricted Extras"
[17:21] <murali> DarthFrog: wat?
[17:21] <Guest46511> abe jaaaaaaaa naaa reeeee
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Guest46511: You seem to be in the wrong channel.  You belong in #windows, it seems.
[17:21] <Peace-> !english | Guest46511
[17:22] <Guest46511> no
[17:22] <Guest46511> i am in right place
[17:22] <DarthFrog> Not with that behaviour, you're not.
[17:22] <Guest46511> you are nuts
[17:23] <Peace-> wanna be kicked?
[17:23] <DarthFrog> !coc | Guest46511
[17:23] <murali> delac: I tried, but nthin happening. it keeps showin me the list of redundancies
[17:23] <Guest46511> its so booooooooooring
[17:24] <delac> murali: what's in the list?
[17:24] <Guest46511> have any body aaded any interesting thing to kubuntu
[17:24] <Guest46511> ?
[17:24] <murali> its installing some files. it might take a while. Thank you very much in advance
[17:25] <murali> delac: it might take about 10 min
[17:25] <Peace-> Guest46511: post your problem and explain better , in english
[17:25] <Guest46511> i dont know english i know only waka waka
[17:25] <Peace-> ok you wann be kicked
[17:25] <Guest46511> do you want to learn
[17:26] <Guest46511> i will teach you
[17:26] <Guest46511> what is ping?
[17:26] <DarthFrog> Guest46511: We expect folks to behave according to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct on this channel.  If you haven't read it, would you please do so?
[17:26] <Peace-> called an admin
[17:27] <Guest46511> ok
[17:27] <Guest46511> i have a problem but i dont have the code
[17:28] <BluesKaj> abkde, if you want to upgrade to 4.6.3 , do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa , then update and dist-upgrade
[17:28] <Guest46511> hey somebody please reply
[17:29] <DarthFrog> Guest46511: We prefer to not feed trolls.
[17:29] <mahi_> hi guys, i have downloaded firefox.tar.bz2; how can I install this file? can anyone help me with this???
[17:29] <Guest46511> i can tell you
[17:29] <DarthFrog> mahi_: Are you sure you want to install from a tarball?  Why not use the official Kubuntu package?
[17:29] <Guest46511> open command prompt
[17:30] <nucleophase> mahi_: You should be able to just run the Firefox installer that's provided with Kubuntu. You can find it in Applications > Internet > Mozilla Firefox Browser Installer
[17:30] <mahi_> darthfrog: I am a new user, thats why I have downloaded that. now i want to install that
[17:31] <nucleophase> mahi_: If you're new, it's much easier to use the one that's provided with Kubuntu.
[17:31] <abkde> BluesKaj, I want it, but i fear adding kubuntu-ppa may bring some unstable applications into my system in the future...
[17:31] <mahi_> cannt i install the bz2 file?
[17:32] <Guest46511> hey darth
[17:32] <Guest46511> execute this
[17:32] <DarthFrog> mahi_: nucleophase is right.
[17:32] <Guest46511> cd ~/Downloads/
[17:32] <Guest46511> sudo mv firefox /opt/firefox
[17:32] <Guest46511> sudo rm -r /opt/firefox
[17:32] <Guest46511> sudo mv firefox /opt/firefox
[17:32] <Guest46511> sudo mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-old
[17:32] <Guest46511> sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[17:32] <FloodBotK1> Guest46511: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Guest46511> hey whats that for
[17:32] <Guest46511> ?
[17:33] <Guest46511> anybody available for me
[17:34] <Guest46511> i mean free
[17:34] <DarthFrog> mahi_:  Use Applications/System/Software Management to install firefox.
[17:34] <Guest46511> it gets struct many times
[17:37] <DarthFrog> mahi_: If you install programs outside the package management system (as you are trying to do with the .tar.bz2 file), you can really bollix up your system.
[17:37] <mahi_> searching for that@ darthfrog
[17:37] <Guest46511> i feel that i am th only guy in the whole world
[17:38] <BonesOfTheNight> Guest46511: solipsism... the thought crosses my mind at times.
[17:38] <Guest46511> maaaaaaa chudaooooo
[17:38] <Greenery> my kubuntu 10.10 (with KDE 4.6.2 using the kubuntu-ppa) still couldn't upgrade to Kubuntu 11.04 because of error saying I'm using pre-release build. How do I rectify this?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> Guest46511: Please take your chatter to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[17:39] <Guest46511> now what is that
[17:39] <Guest46511> @ greenery ?
[17:39] <Greenery> Guest46511: yes?
[17:39] <mahi_> installation is ongoing. thanks guys
[17:39] <DarthFrog> mahi_: You're welcome.  Good luck.
[17:39] <murali> delac u ther?
[17:40] <Guest46511> lever it @greenery
[17:40] <Guest46511> i mean leave it
[17:40] <trickshot> I have 3 users and I'm trying to let one of them login without the need of a password. I have selected the Activate authentication without password and selected the user but it doesn't work. How can I do this?
[17:40] <Greenery> Guest46511: leave it? You mean no need to upgrade?
[17:41] <murali> not able watch youtube videos on firefox. plz help
[17:41] <Guest46511> no man
[17:41] <Guest46511> install flash first
[17:41] <Guest46511> murali
[17:41] <murali> how to do tht?
[17:42] <Guest46511> wait
[17:42] <BluesKaj> abkde, true , waiting for it to arrive in the backports is usually a sign of some stability :)
[17:42] <DarthFrog> murali: You were told how earlier.  Were we not clear?  Are you having problems?
[17:42] <DarthFrog> murali: Use Applications/System/Software Management to install flashplugin-installer.
[17:43] <delac> murali: I'm here
[17:43] <murali> darthfrog: i have installed as i was told, but still no result.
[17:43] <DarthFrog> murali: Did you restart firefox?
[17:43] <abkde> BluesKaj, thanks for help, I would wait for it :)
[17:43] <Guest46511> first that start menu click on it
[17:43] <Guest46511> then applications
[17:43] <Guest46511> then systems
[17:43] <murali> yes its installing
[17:44] <murali> yes i did restart the firefox, Darthfrog
[17:44] <DarthFrog> murali: Can you now watch flash videos in firefox?
[17:44] <murali> nop. but i can watch them on chrome
[17:45] <delac> murali: go to about:plugins and check if flash is listed there
[17:45] <Guest46511> how old are you people?
[17:46] <miaggiroach> very old
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Guest46511, if you ask about age then you're too young to be here :)
[17:46] <Guest46511> have anybody installed cario dock in kubuntu
[17:46] <Guest46511> i am 16
[17:47] <Guest46511> BluesKaj are you a girl or a boy?
[17:47] <murali> delac, i am sorry, but where wil be tht option?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Guest46511, neither , i'm a grandfather
[17:48] <delac> murali: open new tab in firefox, clear the urlbar and write about:plugins
[17:48] <Guest46511> kubuntu have lots of bugs
[17:48] <Guest46511> especially 10.04
[17:48] <Guest46511> which i am using
[17:49] <Guest46511> which version are you on
[17:49] <miaggiroach> 10.10
[17:49] <murali> delac, yes its mentioned there
[17:49] <Guest46511> where?
[17:49] <miaggiroach> just switched from windows to linux
[17:50] <delac> murali: so it is installed and the firefox finds it
[17:50] <murali> yes
[17:50] <delac> murali: do you have javascript on?
[17:50] <Guest46511> oh man i know my version
[17:50] <murali> i dnt kno
[17:50] <Guest46511> i was asking yours
[17:50] <miaggiroach> like learning two new oriental languages at the same time :-)
[17:50] <delac> murali: it's in the firefox settings
[17:50] <Guest46511> @greenery what do you want?
[17:50] <delac> murali: in the Content tab
[17:51] <Guest46511> hey murali just download a deb file of flash
[17:51] <delac> murali: oh, and I suppose you don't have installed any flashblock or noscript addons?
[17:52] <Guest46511> and it will include all
[17:52] <murali> yes, enable java script option is checked
[17:52] <murali> guest46511: how can i do it
[17:52] <murali> ?
[17:52] <delac> murali: don't listen him
[17:53] <Guest46511> i dont remember but search in google for flash player and then download it
[17:53] <murali> ok
[17:53] <murali> wat now, delac
[17:53] <Guest46511> fuck you @delac
[17:53] <delac> murali: so no flashblocks and javascript is on?
[17:53] <IdleOne> !language | Guest46511
[17:54] <murali> there isnt any option abt flashblocks
[17:54] <miaggiroach> i agree
[17:54] <tsimpson> uhh, backscroll is insane
[17:54] <murali> but yes java script is enabled
[17:54] <deconnectee> j
[17:54] <delac> murali: flashblock is addon. Have you installed it?
[17:55] <murali> nop
[17:55] <delac> murali: good
[17:55] <delac> murali: so what do you see when you go to youtube?
[17:56] <murali> when i open a page with video, the whole page loads normally except the video space is black n empty
[17:57] <BluesKaj> murali, delac , you can auto install flash and java and a whole lot od required multimedia codecs , by installing kubuntu-restricted-extras, no need to compile from source at all
[17:57] <delac> BluesKaj: it is already installed
[17:58] <murali> delac, if i uninstall and install again, will it work?
[17:58] <delac> BluesKaj: and flash shows up in about:plugins
[17:58] <BluesKaj> it should
[17:58] <delac> murali: I think it might be some configuration mishap on firefoxs end
[17:59] <murali> ok, so solution?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> if you run FF or chromium
[17:59] <murali> but it works fine in windows
[17:59] <BluesKaj> chromium ftw , FF is becoming buggy again
[17:59] <delac> murali: do you have any other user accounts on that computer?
[18:00] <murali> nop
[18:00] <delac> murali: do you know how to make one?
[18:00] <Peace-> murali: you need flash ?
[18:00] <murali> nop
[18:00] <murali> i havnt done tht
[18:01] <delac> murali: well, maybe better not go there then
[18:01] <delac> murali: well, do you know how to make another firefox user?
[18:02] <murali> nop. but i explain, i will do it
[18:02] <Peace-> here there is the flash plunin installed locally http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/09/plasma-desktopKL1696.jpg
[18:02] <murali> if u exlain i will do it
[18:02] <delac> murali: open Terminal and write: firefox -ProfileManager
[18:03] <murali> done
[18:03] <murali> a new window opened
[18:03] <delac> murali: create new profile
[18:03] <mahi_> can any one tell me what is uBlog standing at my desktop?
[18:04] <delac> murali: you can name it whatever you like
[18:05] <snikker> on natty my eth0 sometimes run at 100Mbit/s and sometimes only at 10Mbit/s. eth0 is connected to 100Mbit switch. how can i fix this?
[18:05] <murali> how can i name a whindow. after entering the command , a new firefox window opend
[18:05] <delac> murali: oh, so you didn't get the ProfileManager window...
[18:05] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[18:05] <murali> nop
[18:06] <delac> murali: close all firefox instances before running the firefox -ProfileManager
[18:06] <murali> ok
[18:07] <murali> yes done, created a profile
[18:08] <delac> murali: good. now select it and click Start Firefox.
[18:08] <mahi_> can anyone tell me which software works exectly like dreamwaver.exe????
[18:08] <murali> great. it works. Thanks a lot Delac. u rock
[18:09] <delac> murali: but notice that all of your settings are gone
[18:09] <delac> murali: or in the other profile
[18:09] <murali> ya, all the setting will be in default profile
[18:09] <delac> murali: the problem is that your default profile has some configuration that prevents the flash from running
[18:09] <murali> ok
[18:10] <delac> murali: either you need to locate and remove that setting or migrate all your stuff to the new profile
[18:10] <murali> thank you once again
[18:10] <murali> a small doubt , everytime i open firefox frm now, will it open in new profile or the old one?
[18:11] <delac> murali: I think it might use the profile that was used last
[18:11] <delac> murali: but I'm not sure
[18:11] <murali> okok , its using the new one
[18:11] <delac> murali: anyway this setting is not prefereable
[18:11] <murali> thnk u delac
[18:12] <delac> murali: you should have only one profile
[18:12] <murali> can i delete the default profile?
[18:12] <delac> murali: so I recommend you back up all your important stuff like bookmarks and delete the old profiles
[18:13] <murali> done
[18:13] <murali> thnak you and byw
[18:13] <murali> *bye
[18:13] <delac> murali: the create new default profile, and import the important stuff
[18:29] <delac> trying to compile dolphin (and rest of kdebase), but the lib hierarchy doesn't match that of default installation. e.g. libkdeinit4_*-so files go directly to lib folder when in Kubuntu they are in lib/kde4/libkdeinit. I did take the sources from the packages.ubuntu.com. Any easy way to make this work?
[18:39] <delac> ah, ok. now I see. Apparently ubuntu package maintainers  split the kdebase source into smaller units and packaged those. And changed the installation paths at that process. Does anyone know if and where those source packages might be downloadable?
[18:48] <yofel> delac: make sure you have the neccessary deb-src lines in your sources.list
[18:48] <yofel> then run apt-get source kdebase
[18:50] <yofel> it'll get you the same source you can get from package.ubuntu.com though (I think)
[18:50] <delac> yofel: unfortunately the package I get from there is the "raw" source that has the default KDE paths and stuff. What I need is the package that has those paths set for Kubuntu
[18:50] <yofel> the debian/*.install files are responsible for moving the files around during dh_install when the package is created
[18:51] <yofel> make install still does the same for our packages, it's dpkg/debhelper that moves the files around
[18:52] <delac> yofel: where could I get the configuration files for packagin?
[18:52] <delac> yofel: I gues it needs some?
[18:52] <yofel> if you want to rebuild kdebase, you can get the source, run 'sudo apt-get build-dep kdebase', modify the package, and then call dpkg-buildpackage in the source dir to build it
[18:52] <yofel> that will create new .deb files that you can install
[18:54] <delac> yofel: dpkg-buildbackage would know where to install the libs? I mean, there is nothing in the sources that would tell it the Kubuntu specific paths?
[18:54] <yofel> delac: curious, what are you trying to do?
[18:54] <yofel> delac: there is, in kdebase-<version>/debian/<binary_package>.install
[18:56] <delac> yofel: ah, of course, they are not Kubuntu specific, but Debian specific
[18:56] <yofel> yes, we share the same package management after all
[18:59] <delac> yofel: I just did a little modification to Dolphin. So little that it only modified the Dolphin binary and I thought I could just replace by dropping it in to the /usr/bin. Unfortunately the libs were in wrong places...
[18:59] <yofel> right, that might not work right
[19:00] <yofel> also, I wasn't exactly right. The paths aren't only changed in the install files, but also by the pkg-kde-tools that are used to build the packages, which come mostly from debian
[19:03]  * yofel is gone for a moment
[19:03] <noaXess_netubu> something is strange.. sometimes i have no power profile .. and can't change any of it..
[19:03] <BluesKaj> yofel, delac  debian specific kde apps can be built for kubuntu using the deb package builder ?
[19:04] <noaXess_netubu> and also all keybaord shortcut'sare disabled.
[19:04] <noaXess_netubu> hey BluesKaj
[19:07] <noaXess_netubu> how can i restart powermanagement?
[19:07] <luca1> Hello
[19:09] <BluesKaj> noaXess_netubu, hi... dunno for sure about restarting power management ...sudo service powermanagement restart ?
[19:09] <noaXess_netubu> not a service BluesKaj
[19:10] <noaXess_netubu> i need to restard kdm that it works
[19:21] <noaXess_netubu> BluesKaj: any idea how to reinstall/reconfigure powermanagement?
[19:21] <yofel> BluesKaj: deb package builder?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> noaXess_netubu, look in system settings/power management :)
[19:22] <noaXess_netubu> i mean.. reinstall
[19:22] <noaXess_netubu> cause there is nothing, no power profiles to configure :(
[19:25] <BluesKaj> noaXess_netubu, reinstal acpid ?
[19:27] <noaXess_netubu> no
[19:28] <noaXess_netubu> BluesKaj: do you know any commands to control acpi manually?
[19:28] <noaXess_netubu> or chekc status?
[19:28] <Reliks> um how do you set a picture as a desktop background?
[19:30] <noaXess_netubu> Reliks: click right onto desktop and select desktop activities ;)
[19:30] <Reliks> ty
[19:30] <tsimpson> "desktop settings"
[19:32] <jmut> hi. I got fresh kubuntu latest installed. running on lenovo R61
[19:33] <jmut> I have graphic card installed..all seems ok, effects disabled, but still when I open firefox, thunderbird and few other applications system becomes very slugish.
[19:33] <jmut> I mean likke for some going between windows..I get 100% CPU usage etc..when I have like 1G of ram in use only..out of 2. this feels very very odd
[19:34] <jmut> any pointers what I could cause I really doubt this is hardware issue
[19:37] <BluesKaj> tsimpson,  noaXess_netubu is having power management , he has no profile options
[19:37] <BluesKaj> probs
[19:41] <ho> gah
[19:43] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: yeah, I'd guess it's something to do with acpi, but I really don't know how to debug that
[19:44] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: but any idea to restart it.. only stop/start kdm will fix it
[19:45] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: strange thing: in power managemetn i can't see any profile, in the battery applet i see the profiles but a switch doesnt change anything..
[19:46] <ho> recently installed kubuntu on a eeepc 901 and some keys arnt working
[19:46] <tsimpson> I *think* all of that is done over DBus, so it could be lower-level than KDE stuff
[19:47] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: you mean from kernel?
[19:47] <tsimpson> more like kernel modules, but I'm just guessing
[19:48] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: but... if i just stop/start kdm, it comes back.. until i reboot
[19:49] <tsimpson> noaXess_netubu: I can't see why that would work, but power management is a mystery to me
[19:50] <tsimpson> maybe some KDE service is malfunctioning? (another guess)
[19:50] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: yes.. but which one :)
[19:50] <tsimpson> is it restarting KDM or just logging out/in?
[19:50] <ho> shift+some keys doesnt work
[19:50] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: wait,.. i will try logout/in..
[19:53] <ho> on another eeepc901 running ubuntu everythnig works fine
[19:55] <noaXess_netubu> back..
[19:56] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: can't logout... if i logout i get a bluescreen and nothing happens..
[19:56] <ho> key presses arnt even reported by xev
[19:56] <tsimpson> eek
[19:57] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: does keyshortcuts any powermanagement has any todo together?
[19:57] <noaXess_netubu> causif power profiles are not available all my custom keyboard shortcut doesnt' work...
[19:58] <tsimpson> noaXess_netubu: I'm not too sure to be honest
[19:59] <tsimpson> there is a "global" KDE daemon that handles those key shortcuts
[19:59] <tsimpson> but if that dies you usually get some notice about it
[20:00] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: on boot i can't see any notice... ..
[20:00] <tsimpson> it should be when you login, it's run per user login
[20:00] <tsimpson> or rather per KDE session login
[20:01] <noaXess_netubu> tsimpson: ok.. check
[20:02] <tsimpson> it's "kded4" I think
[20:02] <szal> evening
[20:03] <szal> installing Natty on my other machine, currently at partitioning..  for dual-boot w/ an existing XP, is it adviseable to change the bootable flag to the Kubuntu / or should I leave it as-is?
[20:04] <tsimpson> szal: it doesn't matter, grub doesn't care about the "bootable flag". it was for back in the DOS days
[20:04] <szal> ah, ok
[20:05] <BluesKaj> szal,  is the kubuntu install procedure asking this or are you going partition beforehand
[20:05] <szal> BluesKaj: alternate installer, manual partition setup
[20:05] <szal> BluesKaj: so I _can_ change this
[20:06] <pelle> can some perhaps give me a hint, during listening to music via amarok the kde sound backend (phonon) asked me wheter i want to remove my unused sound devices and strangly showing my currently in use ones as unuses. i accidently klicked on yes and now i only can hear system sounds but nothing else
[20:07] <BluesKaj> on the alternate install you will be asked where to put the grub bootloader , choose the default , grub will detect you windows partition and include it in the menu
[20:07] <BluesKaj> szal, ^
[20:07] <pelle> a couple of minutes before i installed the bad and ugly gstreamer backend and at first i suspected them to kill my sound but after pruging them still only system sound works
[20:07] <szal> BluesKaj: ah, that was to be my 2nd question, thx ^^
[20:08] <szal> BluesKaj: because I was contemplating whether to put the Grub2 in the MBR or in the / partition
[20:08] <BluesKaj> szal, that grub option will be close the finished install procedure
[20:09] <BluesKaj> err near the end Imean
[20:09] <szal> btw, do you have spam bots or something on this channel? (look at top of nick list)
[20:10] <Pici> szal: The floodbots are for flood protection.
[20:10] <szal> Pici: I don't mean the floodbots, the name says it all ^^
[20:11] <Pici> szal: If you mean the ones that start with numbers, those are desynced clients. Normally nicks can't start with numbers.
[20:11] <giufino> hi all
[20:12] <giufino> someone can help me?
[20:12] <szal> Pici: ah ok
[20:12] <szal> giufino: not without a proper question you asked we can't ;)
[20:12] <giufino> is possible try gnome3 on kubuntu 10.04 ?
[20:13] <yofel> no, there is a PPA for 11.04 though
[20:13] <giufino> also for 11.04 ?
[20:13] <yofel> for 11.04
[20:13] <yofel> !gnome3
[20:14] <giufino> ok ty
[20:14] <szal> PPA == repo?  (just to get terminology clear)
[20:14] <yofel> !ppa
[20:14] <giufino> i try it on ubuntu 11.04 it's very unstable
[20:15] <giufino> i love so muck kde but i want try gnome3
[20:15] <yofel> szal: they behave like a repository, and are set up in the same way
[20:15] <giufino> i like so much his fonts
[20:15] <szal> yofel: thx
[20:16] <yofel> szal: they're nice as anyone with a launchpad account can provide his own packages in a PPA
[20:28] <gribouille> when I run glxgears, I get  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[20:32] <sourcemaker> since the update to kde 4.6.3 my sound does not work anymore... it this a known issue?
[20:32] <gribouille> when I run glxgears, I get  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[20:37] <anderlia> Did anyone experienxce a regression with k9copy since 11.04 upgrade: it used to work fine, and now I am no longer able to rip a DVD w/o the menu: "titles have been correctly extracted" displayed after a few seconds (it takes usually 15 mn), and nothing in the target directory.
[20:38] <anderlia> if I disable dvdauthor, DVD ripping works again > so I suspect a regression in libdvdread or libdvdcss
[20:40] <yofel> sourcemaker: not really, can you file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ please?
[20:41] <yofel> gribouille: hm... can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[20:41] <sourcemaker> yofel: I am going to find the problem... if nothing works... I will report this bug
[20:43] <gribouille> yofel, I think it's a problem with xorg.conf
[20:43] <anderlia> @yofel: I will, but I would like first to target which module is wrong by manually downgrading dvdauthor and libdvdread4  to their previous version (10.10)
[20:44] <yofel> could be, the Xorg log should tell what the problem is
[20:44] <yofel> anderlia: hm, I really don't know anything about k9copy so can't help there :/
[20:45] <anderlia> no pb
[20:45] <gribouille> yofel, for whatever reason, it was renamed to xorg.conf-backup-110509101156
[20:46] <yofel> gribouille: well, if you won't show your logs: what graphics card and which driver?
[20:46] <gennro> gribouille what drives are you working with?
[20:46] <gennro> drivers
[20:47] <gribouille> I don't know
[20:48] <yofel> gribouille: can you install pastebinit and run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[20:48] <yofel> or we can only guess what's wrong
[20:49] <gribouille> yofel, I've renamed the backup file. If it still doesn't work, I'll as you again. thanks
[20:50] <yofel> if you pastebin it give us the link so we can find it
[20:56] <flipoxp> Buenas
[20:56] <flipoxp> alguien habla español '
[20:56] <flipoxp> ?
[20:57] <szal> !es | flipoxp
[21:02] <viliny> any way to completely disable all screensaver and screen shutting thingies? i disabled screensaver that blanks the screen but it still goes black after a while. running kubuntu in virtualbox incase that matters
[21:02] <viliny> like if virtualbox has some screensaver too or something
[21:02] <viliny> if anyone has any experience i would really appreciate it
[21:06] <gomiboy> viliny: there are probably other methods, but i used xset when i had that problem
[21:12] <viliny> gomiboy: xset?
[21:14] <gomiboy> viliny: a console command, can't remember the syntax. Read man :3
[21:16] <viliny> gomiboy: thank you, ill try that
[21:21] <szal> installation finished, system running..   feels a bit sluggish on my old single-core machine, and something about the theme isn't quite right, I can see the mouse pointer disappear when pointing it at certain points in the vicinity of window widgets
[21:21] <gennro> what video card do you have?
[21:21] <gennro> szal
[21:22] <szal> gennro: on that machine, nVidia GeForce FX 5900XT
[21:22] <gennro> did you uninstall the nouavu  xerver driver and install the nvidia 185 driver?
[21:23] <szal> 185?  wasn't that 173?
 Is that not too much card for the processor?
[21:23] <gennro> 185 is the is 270
[21:23] <szal> zCROSSBONESz: please rephrase, I don't get you
[21:23] <gennro> the latest nvidia drive released last month
[21:24] <szal> gennro: the FX series only runs on legacy (173)
[21:24] <gennro> ah ok
[21:24] <gennro> forgot about that
[21:24] <szal> gennro: other than that, I haven't installed anything yet, just booted up
[21:24] <gennro> yeah get rid of the open source nouavu driver and install the 173
[21:25] <gennro> should help ya out
[21:25] <gennro> for some reason if you leave the oper source nouavu driver installed it caused all kinds of problems
 sorry ... i was having a braindump..............
[21:26] <yofel> well, no need to remove it, if you install the nvidia package nouveau gets disabled
[21:27] <gennro> I had to remove it for me otherwise it would try to load the nouavu driver instead of the nvidia driver for me
[21:27] <szal> yofel: no real need to explain the inner workings, I've been on Linux for >6 years now ;)
[21:28] <yofel> I'm just explaining the package management oddities, nvidia has a few...
 heck ive been on it for fifteen and still lost
[21:28] <gennro> now if you manually install the nvidia driver it blacklists the nouveau driver
[21:29] <szal> yofel: but anyway: best way to install nVidia driver on *buntu?  pkg or manual?
[21:29] <yofel> well, manually as in apt-get, but apt doesn't create a xorg.conf, only jockey or nvidia-xconfig do they
[21:29] <zCROSSBONESz> but then i'm 60
[21:29] <yofel> szal: pkg as long as it works, manual install is not supported at all
[21:29] <yofel> and tricky to revert
[21:30] <gennro> no manually as in download from nvidia and sudo ./Nvidia-installer
[21:30] <yofel> (not that it's impossible)
[21:30] <yofel> er... ok, but that requires removing nvidia-common and blacklisting the nouveau  modules first
[21:31] <gennro> yoful the latest 270 installer does that automaticly
[21:31] <kubu2> amarok is flaky with internet streams and seems hung when switching between streams
[21:31] <yofel> ah, that's nice then
[21:31] <szal> as long as I don't start messing around w/ unsupported kernels I shouldn't need the manual install option as long as there is a pkg'd driver available
[21:31] <kubu2> playing streamingdata on streamingdata from streaming data?
[21:32] <szal> anyhoo..  cmdline pkg management -> apt or aptitude?
[21:32] <kubu2> apt-get or aptitude whichever is better atm
[21:32] <yofel> apt-get, after it installs run nviidia-xconfig (aptitude isn't installed by default since maverick on desktops)
[21:33] <szal> ah, any reason to that?  I faintly remember back from a Debian derivative that they recommended not using apt-{get|cache|file|whatever} any more
[21:33] <kubu2> sometimes other removes stuff while the other leaves it back
[21:33] <yofel> a) disk space b) no point in having 2 apps installed that do the same thing, and ubuntu prefers apt for some reason
[21:34]  * yofel prefers aptitude tbh
[21:34] <yofel> disk space as in CD space
[21:34] <szal> of course, HDD space shouldn't be an issue
[21:35] <kubu2> they both use APT, just different dependencies/rule processing
[21:35] <szal> the thing I disliked in the past about aptitude was it installing recommended pkgs automatically..  is that configurable or hard-coded?
[21:36] <kubu2> just pass --without-recommends
[21:38] <yofel> that should be --no-install-recommends IIRC
[21:38] <yofel> ah, --without is aptitude, --no... is apt-get
[21:47] <kubu2> yofel: is 4.7 be in 11.11 shortly?
[21:48] <yofel> kubu2: 4.7 beta1 release is scheduled for the 25th
[21:48] <kubu2> yofel: how about proj neon? Do they have anything to try for 4.7?
[21:48] <James147> 4.7 isnt out yet ^^ but both kubuntu and kde have a 6month release cycle so every new version of kubuntu has the next version of kde
[21:49] <yofel> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule to be accurate ;)
[21:49] <yofel> kubu2: well, neon are the trunk builds, which currently would be 4.7 pre-beta
[21:50] <kubu2> I've seen some 4.7 from Chinese source in KDE forums
[21:50] <yofel> that's nonsense, 4.7 beta1 hasn't even been tagged yet, so it's still in trunk
[21:50] <yofel> if anything those would be trunk snapshots
[21:50] <kubu2> I'm not saying it's been released
[21:51] <yofel> same as neon
[21:52] <gremset> Hi, how can I change firefox to use another sound card for outputting audio from flash, I have et skype and vlc media player to use other card, but could not find any setting for firfox. Any ideas where to look for?
[21:53] <szal> gremset: play something in FF & change the playback stream to another device
[21:55] <crashev> anyone experienced brithness controll problem in kubuntu 11.04 (which worked previously in 10.04 lts) ?
[21:55] <szal> aptitude was already installed ^^
[21:55] <gremset> szal: thanks, the thing is "playback stream". got it
[21:56] <szal> so, I installed nvidia-173, now do I just reboot or do I need to do something else beforehand?
[21:59] <phoenix_> i am accessing Internet through my mobile modem. When i disconnect the network manager hangs and also the desktop. When i see the process list the process "kded" uses the maximum cpu and i am not able to kill the process.
[21:59] <yofel> szal: you can reboot if you have a xorg.conf
[21:59] <yofel> if not, run nvidia-xconfig first
[22:00] <yofel> phoenix_: kill -s 9 should work (SIGKILL), but KNM won't work right after that, plasma will though
[22:00] <yofel> I've seen that sometimes here, haven't spent much time debugging it though
[22:01] <phoenix_> yofel: will it hangs ?
[22:01] <phoenix_> yofel: why it hangs ?
[22:01] <phoenix_> yofel: i use top to kill apps
[22:02] <yofel> not sure, I did try to get a trace of the point where it's stuck once, and it was net lookup from ntrack (whatever that is)
[22:02] <yofel> phoenix_: then enter 9 as signal number
[22:02] <yofel> instead of 15
[22:04] <BlaXpirit> Dolphin file manager: where can I change the amount of time that has to pass before a tab is selected when I hold a file on top of it?
[22:13] <SJr> Hmmmm since upgrading to 11.04, network manager tray or whatever it is, doesn't seem to be able to do anything with my wireless
[22:13] <SJr> it just says it's "Unavailable"
[22:17] <vzduch> works
[22:17] <vzduch> <- szal on other machine
[22:18] <vzduch> looks as if the gfx oddities like flickering mouse pointer and similar stuff were due to the nouveau driver, even program start seems to go faster w/ nVidia
[22:19] <vzduch> though this machine still feels a bit sluggish compared to my (newer) other machine ;)
[22:19] <gennro> yeah that nouveau driver sucks...... not sure why ubuntu defaults it for 11.04
[22:19] <gennro> would rather have the old NV driver by default
[22:19] <vzduch> gennro: because the nVidia driver cannot be shipped by default due to licence restraints
[22:19] <vzduch> gennro: and nv is obsolete
[22:19] <gennro> I know
[22:20] <gennro> but atleast the open source xserver NV driver doesn't cause stability issues.... granted it is only 2D
[22:20] <gomiboy> using nouveau with experimental 3d support here (8800 gtx). Works (mostly :)
[22:21] <vzduch> gomiboy: iirc, it also worked quite well back on Fedora w/ LXDE and on my other machine on openSUSE before I installed nVidia driver there
[22:22] <gennro> as long as nvidia keeps putting out good drivers for linux i'll keep using the nvidia ones
[22:22] <vzduch> but w/ KDE and the FX 5900XT it seems to struggle
[22:22] <vzduch> gonna restart KDE, brb
[22:23] <Dclixis> Bonsoir :)
[22:23] <Dclixis> test
[23:06] <ubuntu> hey guys
[23:06] <ubuntu> hey guys how do i download torrents while useing live cd..
[23:07] <ubuntu> i do have ext 4 filesystem disks setup but cannot get privilages
[23:09] <vzduch> you could chown them to the live CD user, but I guess you don't want that
[23:09] <ubuntu> yes i sure do
[23:09] <ubuntu> im formatting anyway to put linuxmint on lol
[23:09] <ubuntu> how do i chown them?
[23:09] <vzduch> see "man chown" in the terminal
[23:10] <ubuntu> sudo chown dev/sda6 livecd?
[23:11] <ubuntu> how do i know who to change ownership to if im on a livecd
[23:12] <vzduch> ubuntu: whoami
[23:12] <ubuntu> what should i type for chown command
[23:12] <vzduch> group name should be either the same as the user name or "users"
[23:13] <ubuntu> so just chown dev/sda6 Username?
[23:13] <vzduch> you haven't read the man page
[23:13] <ubuntu> sry
[23:13] <vzduch> the syntax is wrong, to begin with
[23:13] <ubuntu> i just wana do this fast without reading to much
[23:13] <ubuntu> cuz im formatting here in a minut
[23:14] <ubuntu> sudo chown -r dev/sda6 username
[23:15] <vzduch> *sigh*
[23:15] <ubuntu> lol i just need the command
[23:15] <ubuntu> i know it looks something like that up their
[23:43] <kubu2> yofel_: I get the black screen and mouse when logging into proj neon.  any idea how to get around it?
[23:47] <sethiroth> yp
[23:47] <sethiroth> yo