[04:39] <dogfish> Hello, I have a quick lubuntu question, Is there anyway to get past the 5.3Gb install requirement because I am trying to install on a 4Gb ssd netbook?
[04:41] <bioterror> I think they are working on that bug
[04:41] <bioterror> mini.iso could be a solution
[04:41] <bioterror> and then install lubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <bioterror> ubiquityasdasd is :(
[04:42] <dogfish> Yeah, that what I was assuming I would have to do, but Just wanted to confirm
[04:42] <dogfish> Thank you fo the info though
[04:42] <dogfish> for*
[04:42] <jmarsden> dogfish: There is an iso at ftp://ftp.jmarsden.org/pub/lubuntu-11.04.jm1.iso that will install in 2.7GB
[04:43] <jmarsden> It is unofficial... but works.
[04:43] <dogfish> Has there been any problems with that version being updated since I herd that there could be problems with chaning the .iso file
[04:45] <bioterror> jmarsden, have to wait for 11.04.1 ;)
[04:45] <dogfish> heh
[04:46] <jmarsden> dogfish: I wrote the script that creates official Lubuntu ISOs... I know what I am doing when it comes to creating Lubuntu ISOs :)
[04:47] <jmarsden> bioterror: gilir and I discussed creating an 11.04.1 just for this but it's not affecting that many people... so... not yet :)
[04:47] <dogfish> :) will do. Its worth a shot
[04:47] <dogfish> Why was the requirement made so high in the first place?
[04:48] <jmarsden> The ubiquity people changed the way the space requirement was calculated, 3 weeks before 11.04 final release, and did not realize it would affect Lubuntu that way.
[04:49] <jmarsden> Basically we put a sane number in a file on the CD for size, they decided they want to make sure people have some spare disk space... and their code now checks for "double whatever number the ISO says"!!!
[04:49] <jmarsden> It fixed an issue for Ubuntu and Kubuntu, apparently, but caused a new issue for us.
[04:49] <dogfish> Ahhh Thank you again for the info :)
[04:49] <jmarsden> You're welcome.
[04:49] <dogfish> Typical
[04:49] <dogfish> heh
[04:50] <dogfish> Though I am likeing the live version so far, so I am excited to try the fresh install on here, much faster than UNR
[04:52] <bioterror> does not require much to beat UNR
[04:52] <dogfish> heh Used it for way too long...
[04:52] <bioterror> actually, UNR has a real compititor, MeeGo 1.2
[04:53] <bioterror> *compe
[04:53] <bioterror> https://meego.com/devices/netbook
[04:53] <dogfish> Ever tried crashbang?
[04:55] <bioterror> crunch
[04:55] <bioterror> it's okay
[04:58]  * jmarsden thinks... interesting name for a distro, "crashbang" -- a distro that kernel panics as soon as you boot :) :)
[04:59] <bioterror> jmarsden, if it were mine, it would boot but every application would segfault
[05:00] <jmarsden> :)
[05:02] <bioterror> that's almost as funny idea as gobolinux :D
[05:18] <sadie> hello
[05:19] <sadie> i need some help again
[05:20] <jmarsden> sadie: OK, just ask your real question.
[05:20] <jmarsden> !ask
[05:21] <sadie> I need to convert an mp4 video in something that can play on my cell
[05:22] <jmarsden> sadie: What video file formats can your cellphone handle?
[05:24] <sadie> something like 3g2
[05:24] <sadie> is a LG
[05:25] <jmarsden> OK, let me see what I can find to create 3g2 files... that's not a format I have heard of until just now :)
[05:26] <jmarsden> sadie: There is some info on online web-based converters at http://www.ehow.com/how_6301997_convert-mpg-3g2-video-linux.html which might work for you.
[05:26] <sadie> me nither
[05:39] <jmarsden> sadie: Looks like you can probably use ffmpeg in Linux to do the conversion, but the exact commands for ffmpeg are... complicated, so I can't give you a working example.
[05:40] <jmarsden> sadie: You might fine someone who knows the ffmpeg commands for doing that in the #ffmpeg channel here on Freenode.
[05:40] <jmarsden> *You might find ...
[05:43] <bioterror> ffmpeg <3
[05:44] <bioterror> i have mostly just converted .flv files to avi
[05:44] <jmarsden> Looks like sadie went away anyway...
[05:45] <bioterror> thankful person ;)
[09:17] <Valentine> My flash video playing is slow cannot watch in full screen :(
[09:17] <Valentine> for example youtube
[09:17] <Valentine> i have latest flashplayer
[09:20] <bioterror> and what about your hardware
[09:23] <Valentine> 64mb builtin VGA card
[09:24] <Valentine> all was fine in linux mint 10
[09:24] <bioterror> hmmm
[09:24] <bioterror> can you check your CPU usage while watching video?
[09:24] <Valentine> ok
[09:28] <Valentine> CPU usage till 90%
[09:28] <bioterror> what kind of CPU you have then?
[09:28] <Valentine> 50% usage in small screen
[09:28] <bioterror> (Flash is horrible, I know)
[09:28] <Valentine> intel original 3.0 ghz
[09:28] <bioterror> 3GHz sounds like Celeron
[09:28] <bioterror> but should be enough
[09:35] <bioterror> but then again, 90% cpu usage to play flash video
[09:40] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror; Or Pentium 4
[09:49] <bioterror> hi gilir
[09:49] <bioterror> how's the UDS?
[09:50] <gilir> hi bioterror
[09:50] <gilir> good :) But it's just the beginning :)
[09:51] <gilir> Lubuntu sessions are tomorow
[09:53] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha gilir, how's it going?
[09:55] <gilir> hi MrChrisDruif, good for now :)
[09:56] <gilir> is there other people here at the UDS ?
[09:56] <jmarsden> gilir: Yes, hajour and UndiFineD and Daniel0108 are all there
[09:59] <gilir> cool :)
[10:00] <gilir> jmarsden: Lubuntu sessions are tomorow, be sure to add comments to the blueprints if you can't attend them :)
[10:00] <jmarsden> I will try to be awake at 0600 for the 1500 timeslot... when is the other one?
[10:00] <jmarsden> 0600 here is 1500 in Budapest...
[10:00] <gilir> jmarsden: there is also another session about documentation of the Ubuntu ISO build infrastructure, I'm sure you will be interested :)
[10:01] <jmarsden> Ah... yes :)  Do you know its name or when it is?
[10:01] <gilir> jmarsden: 2 hours later
[10:02] <jmarsden> I can probably do that... 0800 here... will maybe make me late for work... :)
[10:02] <gilir> jmarsden: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-image-build-documentation
[10:03] <jmarsden> Thanks, subscribed :)
[10:04] <jmarsden> Heh, should I add Lubuntu as a "User Story" to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ImageBuildDocumentation ?
[10:12] <MrChrisDruif> gilir; UndiFineD isn't at UDS but taking care of the kids at home
[10:13] <MrChrisDruif> But I'll be able to attend afaics (cs = can see)
[10:13] <UndiFineD> but I am remotely attending lots of sessions
[10:14] <jmarsden> Ah, OK, my misunderstanding :)
[10:15] <jmarsden> gilir: I just added Lubuntu as a User Story on that image build documentation wiki spec page.
[10:15] <jmarsden> But at 2:15am here I need to sleep, so goodnight all, and I hope hajour finds her luggage :)
[10:16] <gilir> UndiFineD: ok, it should have sound for sessions + IRC
[10:16] <gilir> jmarsden: ok thanks :)
[10:16] <MrChrisDruif> Why are we doing this in #lubuntu instead of #lubuntu-offtopic?
[10:17] <UndiFineD> gilir, did you managed to get a last minute flight ?
[10:18] <gilir> UndiFineD: not last minute, it's booked since 1 mounth I think
[10:18] <gilir> and I'm here since Thurday, doing some tourism :)
[10:20] <UndiFineD> ah great
[10:24] <jmarsden> gilir: that image build doc session is listed as being at 1200-1300 which is3 hours before the Lubuntu-integrate-ecosystem one... I can't do 3am and then 6am and then be awake a work... not realistic.
[10:24] <jmarsden> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-image-build-documentation/
[10:25] <gilir> jmarsden: yes, not a nice shedule :/
[10:26] <jmarsden> I'll see if I can add anything more to the spec tomorrow (Monday) evening for it, and if I remember leave xchat logging that room (dery) overnight.
[10:26] <jmarsden> But first I need to sleep... 2:30am here :)
[10:27] <gilir> jmarsden: be aware that the schedule move
[10:27] <gilir> it's very unstable :)
[10:42] <UndiFineD> I think they even have had a session on schedule stability
[14:14] <Valentine> where is the list of startup applications in lubuntu?
[14:14] <Valentine> I want to add numlockx
[14:14] <Valentine> i mean http://tech.ninja.pk/2009/11/enable-numlock-in-x11-sessions-linux-software/
[14:30] <Valentine> which gmail notifier is best for lubuntu?
[14:33] <Valentine> if i failed to install it then i will feel sad https://launchpad.net/gm-notify
[14:38] <Valentine> Successfully Installed.
[14:56] <LAcan> any kismet users in the house?
[14:57] <Valentine> which download manager is best with resume support in lubuntu
[14:58] <bioterror> resuming depends on http server that's sending stuff to you
[14:58] <bioterror> I would suggest curl or wget
[14:59] <Valentine> with GUI?
[14:59] <Valentine> curl is not with gui :(
[14:59] <bioterror> for what you need guy? :)
[14:59] <Valentine> brb
[15:00] <bioterror> back in the 90's windows had that GetRight
[16:24] <Valentine> how to lock screen?
[16:24] <Valentine> shortcut keys to lock screen?
[16:36] <Valentine> what are openbox configurations?
[16:36] <Valentine> wow themes
[18:51] <Timo_> Why is the grub entry saying it's Ubuntu, when it is Lubuntu?
[18:52] <bioterror> no lubuntu
[18:52] <bioterror> hmmm
[18:52] <bioterror> ohhh grub :D
[18:52] <bioterror> I was already thinking lsb :D
[19:02] <WiZ> did you use the mini iso
[19:03] <Timo_> No I used lubuntu cd on usb
[19:03] <WiZ> hmmm should say lubuntu then
[19:03] <WiZ> try sudo update-grub
[19:03] <bioterror> does that mean you used usb-cdrom-drive?
[19:05] <bioterror> Timo_, sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[19:05] <bioterror> and then find line ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
[19:05] <bioterror> and edit that "menuentry"
[19:05] <bioterror> and then "update-grub"
[19:06] <bioterror> then you can boot into "Lubuntu" from grub
[19:46] <sadie> helloTwo days ago I had xubuntu 10.10 and upgraded to 11.04 but everything got slower.
[19:46] <sadie> also appeared a window that was removed many times faster, he said something like debconf
[19:48] <sadie> I useLubuntu  now and let me know if it is Intelligent to upgrade now, or is better to wait
[19:50] <bioterror> as long as you feel you're satisfied you dont have reason to upgrade
[19:50] <bioterror> if you like the silver layout in 10.10
[20:00] <sadie> i dont understand
[20:09] <MrChrisDruif> sadie; An Operating System should do what you want to do with it; meaning that if Lubuntu 10.10 is for fulling your needs, there isn't a real reason to upgrade to 11.04
[20:09] <bioterror> read 11.04 release notes
[20:23] <craigbass1976> I'm sure people have asked this before...  Where's the trash?
[20:25] <bioterror> what?
[20:25] <bioterror> 150M.local/share/Trash/
[20:47] <EagleScreen> hi
[20:48] <EagleScreen> will I can copy Lubuntu iso to usb-stick with Universal USB Installer for Windows? it works with Ubuntu
[20:51] <EagleScreen> I think Unity is moving some users from Ubuntu to Lubuntu
[20:51] <MrChrisDruif> EagleScreen; Some?
[20:53] <EagleScreen> MrChrisDruif: do you think more than some?
[20:53] <MrChrisDruif> Since 11.04 has been released I think we've at least double the number of users.
[20:54] <MrChrisDruif> But that is nothing more then a guess, no numbers to back it up thou
[20:55] <EagleScreen> what graphical tool can I use on Lubuntu to browse samba shares?
[20:55] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know EagleScreen
[20:57] <craigbass1976> bioterror, there's nothing in any of the subdirectories of ~/.local/share/Trash
[20:57] <stlsaint> EagleScreen: mounted share drives should be viewable via file manager
[20:57] <stlsaint> or network shares
[20:58] <EagleScreen> for my surprise, Lubuntu is listed in Universal USB Installer for Windows
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> stlsaint; Is that implemented with PCmanFM?
[20:58] <EagleScreen> I think not
[20:58] <stlsaint> hrm, i will have to recheck that, im not in my lubuntu install atm
[20:59] <EagleScreen> there must be another third party tool written in gtk..
[20:59] <EagleScreen> to vrowse samba
[20:59] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, yeah EagleScreen; you *should* be able to make a bootable usb-drive with any distro's ISO
[21:27] <phillw> !terminal
[21:40] <head_victim> EagleScreen: you still looking for a tool within Lubuntu to create a startup USB disk?
[21:46] <EagleScreen> I think I will be able to do it with Universal SB Installer
[21:46] <EagleScreen> I will tell you soon
[21:46] <EagleScreen> downloading the iso right now
[21:49] <head_victim> Ok, I can't remember if I installed it specifically or not but in any *buntu you can just "sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk" to get a nice, easy to use GUI for setting up USB ISOs
[21:49] <head_victim> Assuming it's not installed by default
[22:02] <EagleScreen> yes head_victim but i am on Windows right now
[22:03] <head_victim> EagleScreen: ah sorry, I think I misread some scrollback and got confused
[22:10] <EagleScreen> usb created, will test now, see you later
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> stlsaint; Is that implemented with PCmanFM? <= forgot enter a long time ago
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> Was about samba shares xD
[22:15] <head_victim> MrChrisDruif: it works in pcmanfm, yes
[22:15] <head_victim> I use it regularly for that
[22:16] <head_victim> For maverick you need to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat#Network%20File%20Browsing%20with%20PCManFM though
[22:18] <MrChrisDruif> head_victim; And Natty?
[22:30] <head_victim> Should just work
[22:42] <palhmbs> how do you refresh the menu, I've created a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications... ?
[22:53] <sadie> why my lubuntu is slow if my memory ram is 252
[22:53] <sadie> ?
[22:55] <head_victim> palhmbs_: sorry I'm not sure maybe someone else can help?
[22:55] <head_victim> sadie: depends on what you're trying to run
[22:55] <jmarsden|work> sadie: What are you running in Lubuntu that is slow?  Any large application will be slow in 252MB RAM.
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> sadie; Slowness isn't only decided by RAM, also CPU speed is of importance afaik. And jmarsden|work +1
[22:55] <sadie> exactly
[22:55] <MrChrisDruif> CPU generation is also important
[22:56] <sadie> my pc is pentium III
[22:56] <MrChrisDruif> Newer generation CPU's preform more work in a cpu-cycle
[22:57] <jmarsden|work> sadie: A 1GHz PIII should run Lubuntu itself pretty well in 256MB.  A 500MHz one... will be slowish, probably.
[23:31] <simonas> Hi guys i have a problem :/
[23:31] <simonas> I just have installed lubuntu
[23:32] <simonas> and when i install newest NVIDIA drivers, and then open lxterminal
[23:33] <simonas> in upper left apear black spot :/
[23:33] <simonas> what should i do ? ;(
[23:33] <head_victim> simonas: can you post a screenshot somewhere for use to look at?
[23:33] <phillw> simonas: it is a known bug.
[23:34] <simonas> ok w8 a sec
[23:34] <head_victim> simonas: well there you go ( phillw is that the missing icon or something else? )
[23:34] <simonas> how should i fix that bug ?
[23:34] <simonas> then ?
[23:35] <simonas> where i can find it ?
[23:35] <head_victim> phillw: is there a bug filed?
[23:36] <phillw> bug 743156
[23:36] <phillw> drat...
[23:37] <phillw> bug 743157
[23:38] <phillw> simonas: if you have a launchpad account, then add yourself to the 'it affects me' and you will get updates of its progress through the system.
[23:38] <simonas> ok i'll try thanks