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| peter__ | ubuntu arm desktop use gnome? | 09:37 |
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| arune | gnome or unity-2d? | 09:38 |
| peter__ | the gnome depend mono? | 09:40 |
| peter__ | Is unity-2d desktop manage system? | 09:41 |
| lilstevie | peter__: what version of ubuntu | 09:49 |
| peter__ | lilstevie, 10.10 | 09:58 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, added ... | 11:40 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: awesome, thanks a lot! | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:41 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: need to grab you a beer later ;-) | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | heh | 11:43 |
| ogra_ | lets first see that we get you through DMB | 11:44 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: haha, sure :-) | 11:50 |
| rsalveti | robclark: check with alf__, my cable is with him | 11:54 |
| rsalveti | robclark: and he need just for tomorrow's session | 11:54 |
| rsalveti | robclark: so it should be ok for you to take it | 11:54 |
| robclark | rsalveti: ok, cool | 11:54 |
| hrw | DMB... | 13:29 |
| hrw | rsalveti: you attend today's DMB meeting? | 13:29 |
| rsalveti | hrw: yup, we both need to attend :-) | 13:29 |
| rsalveti | hrw: it is schedule for 16:15, am I right? | 13:30 |
| hrw | yes | 13:30 |
| rsalveti | cool | 13:31 |
| hrw | notes from cross-toolchain-uses starts looking nicer | 13:32 |
| rsalveti | robclark|n900: you'll be able to find alf__ at the mem management summit | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | guess you're also going to be there | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | hrw: are you updating it directly at etherpad? | 13:46 |
| rsalveti | hrw: would also be good to check what use cases we should focus on the second session | 13:47 |
| rsalveti | hrw: are you creating this additional blueprint? | 13:47 |
| NCommander | lool: https://launchpad.net/mukluk | 13:57 |
| NCommander | ogra: session time | 14:00 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, hey, you should make a spec for that | 14:00 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, on my way | 14:00 |
| hrw | rsalveti: I added to whiteboard | 14:07 |
| rsalveti | hrw: ok, cool | 15:20 |
| rsalveti | hrw: congrats! :D | 15:35 |
| hrw | thx | 15:36 |
| hrw | rsalveti: your turn in <1h | 15:36 |
| rsalveti | we'll see :-) | 15:36 |
| hrw | rsalveti is preparing his 'introduce yourself' speech for DMB meeting ;D | 15:43 |
| rsalveti | hrw: yeah, don't want to spend more time that I have | 15:43 |
| rsalveti | have to drive a session at 17:05 | 15:43 |
| hrw | ouch | 15:43 |
| * ogra_ will be in the room in 5min | 16:04 | |
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| dcordes | hi | 20:22 |
| dcordes | Few days ago I tried some natty omap4 image on htcleo machine and had some heavy glitching in unity-2d . I'm wondering if it's worth retrying now that the release is there. | 20:23 |
| arune | dcordes: works fine on my ac100 | 20:28 |
| arune | with released natty | 20:28 |
| dcordes | arune: ok. ogra_ already stated pre release version works on ac100 | 20:29 |
| dcordes | arune: are you able to install normal gnome desktop in your natty release image on ac100 ? | 20:30 |
| dcordes | I need an alternative to unity-* in natty omap4 images | 20:30 |
| arune | I installed ogras rootfs for maverick and then did dist upgrade to natty | 20:33 |
| arune | I think I can choose "normal" gnome and also unity-3d at login but did not try any of them after upgrade to natty | 20:34 |
| dcordes | arune: cool. can you try the gnome ? | 20:36 |
| arune | dcordes: tomorrow? bed time now ;) | 20:38 |
| arune | dcordes: remind me | 20:40 |
| dcordes | arune: tjhanks | 20:43 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: well, unity-2d always worked fine for the other platforms | 20:49 |
| rsalveti | so it could be that you're facing some graphics issues in general | 20:49 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: that's what I'm suspecting | 20:49 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: I'm looking to create an easy to install rootfs for use on the hd2 in the fashion of maverick images by phh et al | 20:50 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: and I don't think using maverick again is progress so I'm considering old gnome session | 20:50 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: ... in natty since I doubt I can fix unity-2d | 20:51 |
| dcordes | *maverick images by phh et al. for ac100 | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | well, just use rootstock and build the rootfs you need | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | you can also install unity-2d for maverick, we have a ppa for that | 20:53 |
| dcordes | I need it vice versa :) | 20:53 |
| rsalveti | and actually see if it's a user space issue with natty or if it's actually something triggered by Qt | 20:53 |
| dcordes | unity-2d is qt based ? | 20:54 |
| dcordes | my framebuffer driver lacks some functions (I also get x error messages) it's really basic. and I never really tried anything qt so the issue might be centered around qt libs | 20:54 |
| dcordes | as the efl works flawlessly. | 20:55 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: could be the case | 20:59 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: yes, it uses Qt | 20:59 |
| rsalveti | you can try different graphics system | 21:00 |
| rsalveti | by default it's using raster | 21:00 |
| rsalveti | so you could also try x11 (native) | 21:00 |
| rsalveti | or even a simple Qt application to understand what is the isue | 21:00 |
| rsalveti | *issue | 21:00 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: raster ? | 21:01 |
| rsalveti | if you're willing to fix it | 21:01 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: that's interesting. I thought I were running normal xorg | 21:01 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: Qt can use different graphics system engines | 21:01 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: is it some run time setting ? | 21:01 |
| rsalveti | like raster (sw optimized), native (x11, using xrender calls) and opengl (using gl or gles) | 21:02 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: yes, you can call any qt application with -graphicssystem foobar | 21:02 |
| rsalveti | I know unity-2d is setting raster at the code itself, but last time I checked the command line option has a higher priority when setting the engine | 21:03 |
| rsalveti | so it should work | 21:03 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: ok so I will just killall unity-2d ... ? | 21:03 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: well, unity-2d is a combination of different applications | 21:03 |
| dcordes | eek | 21:04 |
| rsalveti | launcher, dash, bar, spread | 21:04 |
| dcordes | right.. I remember the launcher in ps -A | 21:04 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: what kind of issues did you have? | 21:04 |
| dcordes | flickering | 21:04 |
| dcordes | iirc the unity pricesses automatically reappeared after killing | 21:05 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: yes, you can't easily kill the panel and launcher I believe | 21:06 |
| rsalveti | you have someone else looking over it to restart it once it's killed | 21:06 |
| rsalveti | but I noticed that if you start it quickly you should be fine | 21:06 |
| rsalveti | like running killall -9 unity-2d-places; unity-2d-places & | 21:06 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: so I'd first recommend you to try the normal gnome interface | 21:07 |
| rsalveti | if it works, then you can start a normal qt application and see if that also works fine | 21:07 |
| rsalveti | and then you can start unity-2d pieces by pieces by hand | 21:08 |
| rsalveti | until you see the problem | 21:08 |
| rsalveti | and understand where the bug is | 21:08 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: thanks! that sounds like a nice plan. Also if I fail debugging unity-2d I still can use the gnome image. What must I add to --seed in order to get a full gnome-desktop ? | 21:11 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: the ubuntu-desktop meta package equivalent | 21:11 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: iirc I was desperate about not being able to find a gnome meta package in the pre release natty arm image | 21:12 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: gnome is still there, so once you installed ubuntu-desktop you should have it | 21:26 |
| rsalveti | for natty it's still just an option you have while login in | 21:26 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: seems like I was too fast about removing the rootfs .. | 21:29 |
| rsalveti | yup :-) | 21:29 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: assuming it wasn't installed I was searching for the package instead of looking for the option | 21:29 |
| rsalveti | yeah, a lot of people got confused by the unity migration as the default desktop | 21:31 |
| dcordes | rsalveti: thanks a lot for the advise. I will let you know the outcome about unity-2d-* -graphicssystem x11 thing | 22:06 |
| rsalveti | dcordes: cool | 22:08 |
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