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[styx]lol00:26
[styx]ubuntu randomly loggged me out00:26
nit-wityou mean the #ubuntu00:31
nit-witor your OS00:31
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froqHow the **** do I change text color in xChat?!  I went to preferences and thought I was doing it correct, however it was to not avail!03:46
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ApOgEEhello all11:14
stlsaintduanedesign: ping11:50
duanedesignstlsaint: pong11:50
stlsaintduanedesign: oh hey11:51
stlsaintduanedesign: we can talk in -dev if your in there11:51
s7nfHey guys. There is one program which I need, but at downloads it is listed as Debian software12:12
s7nfthis usually means that it is not for ubuntu. Am I right? Is there anything I can do?12:12
stlsaints7nf: you do know that ubuntu is built with debian so that software is safe for ubuntu use12:14
stlsaints7nf: first off what package are we talking about here?12:14
s7nfhi stlsaint , im talking about http://orange.biolab.si/nightly_builds.html12:15
s7nfbtw, what is meant by the word package?12:16
stlsaints7nf: nice app there (in google summer of code too ;) )12:18
stlsaints7nf: just the app name12:18
stlsaintis what i was asking about12:18
stlsaints7nf: well i would say that it is safe to install that app on your machine12:19
s7nfok tnx, will do that :)12:19
stlsaints7nf: "Packages are not signed as they are made automatically so you will probably be warned about this."12:20
stlsaints7nf: ^^ something to be aware of12:20
s7nfok, tnx12:21
s7nfstlsaint,  you still here? After installing it, and trying to run it, I get this error: ImportError: No module named orngEnviron . Should I set the environment variables?12:48
stlsaints7nf: check the website documentation first12:56
stlsainti do not know what environment variable must be set for a app to run in this manner12:57
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duanedesignbioterror: ping14:30
UndiFineDpang14:30
bioterrorduanedesign, dong!14:58
duanedesignhello bioterror15:01
duanedesignbioterror: have a second for a PM?15:01
MacMan1Having trouble installing Kubuntu, mounting fails early on.  any ideas?17:17
stlsaintMacMan1: bad iso download or bad install medium17:17
stlsaintcd, usb, etc17:17
MacMan1ok, sounds good.  I'll try again.17:24
MacMan1thanks!17:24
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aztekhi all...18:07
DraZoroHi aztek18:07
aztekit is difficult for me to find ubuntu books or linux books in my town...18:08
aztekany body has the e-books?18:09
DraZoroYou need hard copies ?18:09
azteke-books..18:09
DraZoroaztek : Google is your friend ....18:10
holsteinaztek: what are you looking for?18:10
DraZoroazteck: There so many topics ..my internet is giving me issues now18:11
holsteinthe ubuntu wikis are quite handy18:11
holsteinassuming you have internet access everywhere18:11
coalwaterany one uses xchat here?18:11
holsteincoalwater: i have in the past18:11
holsteinwhats up?18:11
aztekholstein: ok, i am going to browsing.. :-D18:12
coalwaterwell, xchat is acting weird, if u check the user list ull find coalwater, coalwater_ , coalwater__ , all 3 in the channel, and they are all active, it doesn't time out, and if u talk to any one i get a notifcation, it's annoying, i want to kill the rest18:12
Error404NotFoundmoo18:12
holsteinthats probably less to do with xchat18:13
holsteinand more to do with users18:13
holsteini would ghost your nick18:13
holsteinand make sure you dont have any other clients running18:13
coalwateryea, i can ghost my self but i cant ghost the rest18:13
coalwateri get an xchat notification with any name18:13
holsteinwell, it *should* get sorted out18:13
holsteineventually18:13
holsteinyou can ask freenode to clean them out18:14
holsteinor a + in here to kick them18:14
coalwaterthey come back when i re login18:15
holsteinyeah?18:16
holsteinthats odd18:16
holsteini suppose in that case18:16
holsteini would look for .xchat18:16
holsteinor whatever the config is18:16
holsteinin /home18:16
holsteinand throw it out18:16
holsteinyou could rename it temporarily18:16
holsteinso you can revert18:16
holsteinIF that doesnt do anything18:17
mang0I need to use super grub on a floppy drive, I have the ISO, how do I make it bootable?18:17
coalwaterok, ill delete every thing , i dont mind re configuring18:17
holsteinmang0: what are you trying to do?18:17
coalwaterbrb for now18:17
mang0holstein: for some reason, grub won't boot iup windows. It gets stuck on a underscore18:18
mang0I need supergrub to try it :)18:18
holsteinyeah?18:18
holsteini dont18:18
holsteinwin7 just boots for me18:18
holsteincoalwater: the other users18:18
holsteinthey didnt budge18:18
coalwaterholstein, they came back with me ? lol18:18
holsteinim still not convinced the issue is on your end18:18
holsteincoalwater: i think it just seems like they did18:19
holsteinthey actually didnt go anywhere18:19
coalwaterthey should time out18:19
holsteini think they are just stuck18:19
holsteincoalwater: *should*18:19
coalwatercoalwater_,  test18:19
coalwateri still get the notifications :( lol18:19
holsteinodd18:19
mang0but how do I make a floopy disk bootable anyway? I need to write the iso to it...how?18:19
holsteinwell18:19
holsteincoalwater: that depends18:19
holsteinyou could get coalwater notifications18:20
holsteinand coalwater__ or coalwater_whatever18:20
holsteinwould ping you18:20
holsteinmang0: well, i can reffer you to the grub wiki18:20
holstein!grub18:20
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)18:20
coalwaterholstein_ , wouldnt ping u would it18:20
holsteinthats where i go for that kind of think18:20
mang0k thanks18:20
holsteinmang0: but, i would be trying to make the current grub just boot windows18:21
mang0Tried that :/18:21
holsteinsince, for most everyone else, this is auto-magic18:21
mang0I WILL TRY MORE!18:21
holsteincoalwater: if you say holstein_whatever18:21
holsteini should get a ping18:21
holsteinbut, i have it set up that way18:21
holsteincoalwater: i would pop into #freenode for a minute18:22
holsteinand see if someone would just kill your extras18:22
holsteinmang0: what version of linux/windows?18:23
mang0ubuntu 11.04, win XP18:23
holsteinand , not to be captain obvious18:23
holsteinBUT18:23
holsteinfrom ubuntu18:23
holsteinrun in a terminal18:23
holsteinsudo update-grub18:24
holsteinand reboot18:24
holsteinassuming you havent done that*18:24
mang0Done that, twice :/18:24
holsteinOK18:24
holsteinwell, i say doing anything with a floppy18:24
holsteinnot a move forward18:24
holsteinmang0: you see windows in the grub list?18:25
mang0yes holstein18:25
holsteinand whats the hard drive layout?18:25
holsteinjust one drive?18:25
holsteinlin win and swap partitions?18:26
mang0hold, on, I'm going to reboot, will take 1 sec18:26
mang02 hds, identical, one win, one linux18:26
mang0right, sec18:26
mang0holstein: I'm back18:30
holsteinmang0: o/18:30
holsteinif i were you18:30
holsteini would probably try something like http://gag.sourceforge.net/18:30
holsteinpretty sure you can try that 'live' basically18:30
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testcoalwater_, test18:31
test:@18:31
philipballewdoes anyone know a way to watch mark's keynote?18:31
holsteinthen, im assuming you mean you have 2 identical types of hard drives18:31
holsteinyou could always unplug the lin one18:31
mang0holstein: yes, they are identical18:31
mang0and yes, that's what I did18:31
mang0but it's a faf18:31
mang0I have to take the outside of the tower off18:31
mang0and reach in18:32
holsteinfaf?18:32
mang0bother18:32
holsteinright18:32
mang0lol.18:32
holsteinOK18:32
holsteinso, you *temprorarily* unpluge the lin one18:32
holsteinrun fixmbr or whatever it is18:32
holsteinthen, you can chose from the bios at least18:32
holsteinmost machine have a popup to choose the boot device anyways18:32
holsteinbut, i would try GAG18:33
mang0yes, but if I choose the win one first then I can't even get to grub18:33
mang0And I'm going to put it on a floppy disk18:33
mang0:D18:33
holsteinassuming you feel comfortable restoring grub and mbr18:33
mang0O.o18:33
* mang0 thinks18:33
holsteinmang0: ?18:33
holsteinif you choose the win one18:33
holsteinthen, boot windows18:33
mang0hm?18:34
holsteinyou have to reboot anyways18:34
holsteinto get to lin18:34
holsteinthen, select the lin one18:34
holsteinwith my EEEpc18:34
holsteini hit escape18:34
holsteinand choose whatever i want to boot18:34
mang0you mean manually change the bios every time I want to boot windows or grub?!18:34
holsteinthats a do-able work around18:34
mang0*linux18:34
holsteinmang0: kind of18:34
holsteini mean hit a button18:34
holsteinthat selects the boot device18:34
holsteinusing the bios18:34
holsteinbut not entering into the bios config each time18:35
mang0for me, I have to go into the bios, select 1st and 2nd boot device, then reboot18:35
holsteini mean, do what you want18:35
holsteinbut doing anything with a floppy disc18:35
holstein...18:35
mang0lol18:35
mang0but18:35
holsteintry GAG18:35
mang0will do18:35
holsteinphilipballew: ??18:36
holsteinwhats it on?18:36
holsteinTV?18:36
holsteinmark shuttleworth?18:36
philipballewi would say internet video18:36
philipballewteah, from UDS18:36
philipballew*yeah18:36
holsteinshould be something open right?18:36
holsteinshoot a link18:37
holsteinand i'll try it18:37
philipballewi havent found one yet18:38
philipballewif i do ill shoot it to the channel18:38
nlsthzntrying to convert m4a to mp3 using WinFF (ffmpeg) and I keep getting an error Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'18:39
holsteinphilipballew: you mean in general18:39
holsteinis it up somewhere18:39
holsteini see :)18:39
mang0holstein: I've worked it out!18:46
mang0woot18:46
holsteinmang0: ?18:46
holsteinwith a floppy disc?18:46
mang0you see, I've installed winXP a couple of times, and win boot loader seems to think that I have two copies of windows, I have to select wich one to boot from (only one works)18:47
mang0it seems ubuntu is detecting the one that doesnt exist18:47
mang0grub is detecting*18:47
mang0http://pastebin.com/4AYL6ezp18:47
holsteincoco18:47
holsteincool*18:47
holsteini was going to ask about that18:47
holsteinbut you seemed so sure you only have win and lin18:48
holsteini have a restore partition that shows up in grub18:48
holsteinshows up as vista18:48
bioterrorshould be then on another sdX partition18:48
mang0hm...If grub showed both of them, it would be fine18:48
holsteinsometimes you gotta fiddle with what grub finds automagically18:48
mang0strange how it only shows one of them...18:48
bioterrorbut mang0 has windows on two hdd's18:48
mang0how do I change grub manually? or change it like that...18:48
mang0no no18:48
mang0I have windows on one, linux n the other18:49
mang0I did have windows on two, but i installed linux on one of them18:49
bioterroryou didnt clear the whole disk ;)18:49
holsteinenough of something hanging around to cause issues18:50
bioterrorI would suggest to keep windows on primary hdd18:50
mang0bioterror: Actually, i had to pick wich copy of windows to start looong before I installed ubuntu18:50
mang0even though, only one "copy" worked18:51
bioterrorwhy you didnt clear that boot.ini18:51
bioterroror what was that18:51
mang0the other just said "fatel error"18:51
mang0fatal*18:52
holsteini did a win7 restore here18:52
bioterrorstill, fix your boot.ini18:52
holsteinbefore installing ubuntu18:53
holsteinbut, i dont think i'll bother next time18:53
holsteinive only booted in once to make sure grub was working18:53
mang0how do I fix boot.ini?18:53
bioterrorhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 geee18:55
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bioterrorwindows boot.ini on google and first hit18:55
mang0lol k18:57
coalwatersigh, i want to purge xchat19:01
holsteincoalwater: i really dont think its that19:01
holsteinhave you rebooted?19:01
coalwaternope , do i need to19:02
coalwaterok, 1 min19:02
holsteinmaybe killall xchat would have worked19:04
coalwaterthere19:06
holsteincoalwater: i bet killall xchat would have worked19:06
coalwatero19:06
coalwatermaybe19:06
coalwateri think i might know what's the problem19:07
coalwatermaybe it was the minimize to tray option19:07
coalwaterlets see if i can re produce that problem19:08
coalwater_yup, guess it's that19:10
coalwater_minimize to tray removes from the unity menu, but leaves it active in the background19:10
coalwater_hey holstein , would https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xchat be the right place to report this?19:19
coalwater_or just the main xchat ? without natty?19:19
coalwater_ok nvm i think i found a better place19:20
MrChrisDruif:)19:25
* DraZoro is reading http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html20:21
mang0holstein: ?20:26
mang0you dere?20:26
mang0holstein: I want to boot GAG from floppy disk, but it's a zip file. Would that still work?20:27
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* MrChrisDruif isn't sure he should activate the Ati/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers....messed up things/made boot ugly in the past...<_<"21:54
MrChrisDruifNobody?22:03
* head_victim has never had an ATI graphics card in Ubuntu22:03
MrChrisDruifAt least an honest answer :D22:05
mang0|mobileholstein i put GAG on a floppy, it doesn't work...it boots up but it only detects windows if i unplug the ubuntu harddrive...22:06
holsteinmang0|mobile: ?22:07
holsteinthat makes sense right?22:07
mang0|mobileNot to me...22:07
holsteinoh, i see22:07
holsteinhmmm22:08
holsteinsomething is funky with the way you have installed22:08
holsteinif it were me22:08
holsteini would probably try and blow out all the boot sectors22:08
holsteinand reinstall grub22:08
holsteinusing a live CD22:08
mang0|mobilewhat is that and how would i do it?22:09
mang0|mobileOh22:09
holsteinits all at that link really22:09
holstein!grub22:09
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:09
mang0|mobileIm on my phone can't see whilst im typing22:09
holsteinhow to do the live CD and what not22:10
holstein*reinstall grub from a live CD22:10
holsteinsounds like you just blew over some bad windows install anyways22:10
mang0|mobileIts my boot.ini that's screwed up22:11
holsteinright22:11
holsteinso, i would look there22:11
holsteintry and get windows sorted22:11
mang0|mobileI mean, i can boot both it just means unpluging hich is a bother22:12
holsteinwell, that just means nothing is so bad it cant be fixed22:12
holsteini would step away from the floppy discs22:12
holsteinand just re-do some MBR's22:13
mang0|mobileCuz now i have 2 boot options for windows even though only one works...grub is detecting the non working one i think22:13
holsteinright22:13
holsteinyou can edit grbu22:13
holsteingrub*22:13
holsteinmanually22:13
holsteinto use the other one22:14
mang0|mobile:o22:14
holsteinthats probably easy enough22:14
mang0|mobilewoot!22:14
mang0|mobileDo you know how i go about doing that? or is it a #grub problem...22:15
holsteinyou'll just edit the file that says #do not edit this file ;)22:15
holsteinsomething like that22:15
holsteinlemme look...22:15
mang0|mobileOh! i saw that file earlier!22:16
holsteinyeah22:17
holstein/boot/grub/grub.cfg22:17
mang0|mobileWhat would i edit in there?22:17
holsteinwhatever it takes22:18
holstein*make a backup22:18
holsteinright now22:18
mang0|mobileIm scared i might screw something up lol22:18
holsteinmaybe its as easy as set root='(hd0,1)'22:18
holsteinor whatever the equivalent is for the windows boot entry22:18
holsteinmang0|mobile: you should be22:18
holsteinyou should back that up22:18
holsteinyou should have your data backed up22:19
mang0|mobileWut? tomorrow i will look at it. atm computer is off22:19
holsteinand be ready to recover grub with a live CD22:19
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mang0|mobile10.10 livecd do?22:19
holsteinmang0|mobile: you should back up /boot/grub/grub.cfg22:19
holsteinmang0|mobile: yes22:19
mang0|mobileOr 11.04 alternate install disk22:20
holsteinnot alternate*22:20
holsteinany of the live CD's22:20
mang0|mobileK22:20
mang0|mobileAnyway, im off now :) cya tomoz, and thanks for helping me :D22:22
holsteinsure22:22
mang0|mobileIf i start getting too nooby and annoying for ya just tell me, you don't have to help :)22:23
eiriksvincan someone tell me which session to write a disk image of Ubuntu with infrarecorder?22:40
eiriksvinis it Session-At-Once?22:40
eiriksvini'm on windows and don't know my way around to well with this22:40
holsteineiriksvin: let me tell you what you want22:40
holsteinand you can decode that in infrarecorder terminology22:41
eiriksvinwuth Ubuntu its so easy... 3 clicks22:41
holsteinyou want to basically copy a disc22:41
holsteinthis can be done several ways22:41
holsteinyou have 2 burners22:41
holsteinput the source in, and the destintion22:41
holsteinand copy22:42
holsteinOR22:42
holsteinyou put the disc in22:42
holsteinand the machine makes a copy of that image on the machine22:42
holsteinand writes that to another disc22:42
holsteinthats what you want to do22:42
holsteinexcept22:42
holsteinthe image is something you downloaded22:42
holsteinSO, you make a copy22:42
eiriksvinI want to burn an image of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for amd64 (64 bit) onto a disk that i downloaded22:42
holsteinusing the downloaded image as the source22:42
holsteinand a CD as the destination22:42
holsteineiriksvin: right22:43
holstein^22:43
holsteinthats how you do it22:43
holsteini dont have that software22:43
holsteini could try and install it in wine22:43
holsteinand look22:43
holsteinand tell you the exact button to click on22:43
holsteinbut, i think you can probably sort it out with the information above :)22:44
eiriksvinthats what i'm doing, and it asks for the sesion type: SAO, TAO,TAO zero pre-gap22:44
eiriksvinand so on22:44
holsteinright22:44
holsteinSO, thats not it22:44
holsteinit wont ask you anything22:44
holsteinwhen you do it right22:44
holsteinit'll just copy22:44
holsteinusing the downloaded image22:45
holsteinthe .iso22:45
holsteinas a sourc22:45
holsteine22:45
eiriksvinim on windows, not ubuntu, im at my sisters house getting 10.04 cus i cant play games on Natty22:45
eiriksvinit wont read my nVIDIA22:45
eiriksvinbut i know 10.04 does and im going back22:46
holsteineiriksvin: right22:46
holsteini understand that22:46
holsteinits just, im on ubuntu and not windows22:46
holsteinSO, i dont know how infrarecord works22:46
holsteinthe terminology could be different22:46
eiriksvini have downloaded the iso burner that was suggested at ubuntu.com22:47
eiriksvinand thats all i was wondering22:47
eiriksvinshould i do simulation while its writing?22:47
holsteineiriksvin: i have never seen that software22:47
holsteinhowever, i am downloading it22:48
holsteinand i'll see if it runs in wine22:48
eiriksvinthank you22:48
holsteineiriksvin: OK22:50
holsteinso, what are you doing?22:50
holsteinburning?22:50
holsteinclose it down if not22:50
holsteinstart infrarecorder22:51
eiriksvinyes, im burning at 10x in simulation mode22:51
holsteinand you get a splash screen22:51
holsteinclick22:51
holstein'copy disc'22:51
eiriksvinim wring disk22:51
eiriksvinwriting22:51
holsteinand you'll see 'source' and 'target'22:51
eiriksvinit says burning image22:52
holsteinthats pretty much what i was saying above22:52
holsteinexcept target = destination22:52
eiriksvinok22:52
holsteinSO, if what you're doing doesnt work22:52
holsteinthats what you do :)22:52
eiriksvinsorry for the confusion22:52
holsteinnah22:52
holsteinits challengin22:52
holsteing22:52
holsteinno worries22:53
holsteinits just, i have never seen that software22:53
eiriksvini'm trying to install Ubuntu on an intel quad core ACPI x64 which version should i get? the i386 or the amd64?22:53
holsteineiriksvin: thats up to you22:53
head_victimeiriksvin: I"ve used 64bit versions without dramas for a year or two now22:53
holsteinyeah, the 64bit drama is quite minimal these days22:53
eiriksvin(first i had to get a new ubuntu for my pc) now im doing my sisters22:53
head_victimSome people have limited success with flash but then again people have issues with 32bit flash as well22:54
holsteinflash is just not all that great for us22:54
holsteinin general22:54
head_victimeiriksvin: my logic is not "why should I use 64bit" but "why should I NOT use 64 bit"22:54
holsteini have one 32bit only application22:55
holsteinbut i can use another box for it22:55
eiriksvinok, but i don't know what to do about the i386 64 bit, or amd64 64bit22:55
* holstein gotta run... laterx22:56
eiriksvini was told to try both but i don't want to screew anything up22:56
eiriksvinawe crappers22:56
holsteintheres only the 2 options22:56
holstein32 and 64bit22:56
holsteini386=3222:56
holsteinx8622:57
holsteinwhatever22:57
holsteinsearch around for wikipages about 32 and 64bit procs :)22:57
eiriksvini thought it was chip based22:57
holsteinyour chip will be 64bit or 32bit22:57
holsteinyou can run 32bit OS's on a 64bit chip22:58
holsteinnot the other way...22:58
holsteinanyways... BBL22:58
eiriksvinkk22:58
jsebeanwhat should I use, Ubuntu 11.04 or Ubuntu 10.04?23:13

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