[00:26] <[styx]> lol [00:26] <[styx]> ubuntu randomly loggged me out [00:31] you mean the #ubuntu [00:31] or your OS === [styx] is now known as styx|away === styx|away is now known as [styx] [03:46] How the **** do I change text color in xChat?! I went to preferences and thought I was doing it correct, however it was to not avail! === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work === [styx] is now known as styx|away [11:14] hello all [11:50] duanedesign: ping [11:50] stlsaint: pong [11:51] duanedesign: oh hey [11:51] duanedesign: we can talk in -dev if your in there [12:12] Hey guys. There is one program which I need, but at downloads it is listed as Debian software [12:12] this usually means that it is not for ubuntu. Am I right? Is there anything I can do? [12:14] s7nf: you do know that ubuntu is built with debian so that software is safe for ubuntu use [12:14] s7nf: first off what package are we talking about here? [12:15] hi stlsaint , im talking about http://orange.biolab.si/nightly_builds.html [12:16] btw, what is meant by the word package? [12:18] s7nf: nice app there (in google summer of code too ;) ) [12:18] s7nf: just the app name [12:18] is what i was asking about [12:19] s7nf: well i would say that it is safe to install that app on your machine [12:19] ok tnx, will do that :) [12:20] s7nf: "Packages are not signed as they are made automatically so you will probably be warned about this." [12:20] s7nf: ^^ something to be aware of [12:21] ok, tnx [12:48] stlsaint, you still here? After installing it, and trying to run it, I get this error: ImportError: No module named orngEnviron . Should I set the environment variables? [12:56] s7nf: check the website documentation first [12:57] i do not know what environment variable must be set for a app to run in this manner === coalwater__ is now known as coalwater [14:30] bioterror: ping [14:30] pang [14:58] duanedesign, dong! [15:01] hello bioterror [15:01] bioterror: have a second for a PM? [17:17] Having trouble installing Kubuntu, mounting fails early on. any ideas? [17:17] MacMan1: bad iso download or bad install medium [17:17] cd, usb, etc [17:24] ok, sounds good. I'll try again. [17:24] thanks! === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [18:07] hi all... [18:07] Hi aztek [18:08] it is difficult for me to find ubuntu books or linux books in my town... [18:09] any body has the e-books? [18:09] You need hard copies ? [18:09] e-books.. [18:10] aztek : Google is your friend .... [18:10] aztek: what are you looking for? [18:11] azteck: There so many topics ..my internet is giving me issues now [18:11] the ubuntu wikis are quite handy [18:11] assuming you have internet access everywhere [18:11] any one uses xchat here? [18:11] coalwater: i have in the past [18:11] whats up? [18:12] holstein: ok, i am going to browsing.. :-D [18:12] well, xchat is acting weird, if u check the user list ull find coalwater, coalwater_ , coalwater__ , all 3 in the channel, and they are all active, it doesn't time out, and if u talk to any one i get a notifcation, it's annoying, i want to kill the rest [18:12] moo [18:13] thats probably less to do with xchat [18:13] and more to do with users [18:13] i would ghost your nick [18:13] and make sure you dont have any other clients running [18:13] yea, i can ghost my self but i cant ghost the rest [18:13] i get an xchat notification with any name [18:13] well, it *should* get sorted out [18:13] eventually [18:14] you can ask freenode to clean them out [18:14] or a + in here to kick them [18:15] they come back when i re login [18:16] yeah? [18:16] thats odd [18:16] i suppose in that case [18:16] i would look for .xchat [18:16] or whatever the config is [18:16] in /home [18:16] and throw it out [18:16] you could rename it temporarily [18:16] so you can revert [18:17] IF that doesnt do anything [18:17] I need to use super grub on a floppy drive, I have the ISO, how do I make it bootable? [18:17] ok, ill delete every thing , i dont mind re configuring [18:17] mang0: what are you trying to do? [18:17] brb for now [18:18] holstein: for some reason, grub won't boot iup windows. It gets stuck on a underscore [18:18] I need supergrub to try it :) [18:18] yeah? [18:18] i dont [18:18] win7 just boots for me [18:18] coalwater: the other users [18:18] they didnt budge [18:18] holstein, they came back with me ? lol [18:18] im still not convinced the issue is on your end [18:19] coalwater: i think it just seems like they did [18:19] they actually didnt go anywhere [18:19] they should time out [18:19] i think they are just stuck [18:19] coalwater: *should* [18:19] coalwater_, test [18:19] i still get the notifications :( lol [18:19] odd [18:19] but how do I make a floopy disk bootable anyway? I need to write the iso to it...how? [18:19] well [18:19] coalwater: that depends [18:20] you could get coalwater notifications [18:20] and coalwater__ or coalwater_whatever [18:20] would ping you [18:20] mang0: well, i can reffer you to the grub wiki [18:20] !grub [18:20] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [18:20] holstein_ , wouldnt ping u would it [18:20] thats where i go for that kind of think [18:20] k thanks [18:21] mang0: but, i would be trying to make the current grub just boot windows [18:21] Tried that :/ [18:21] since, for most everyone else, this is auto-magic [18:21] I WILL TRY MORE! [18:21] coalwater: if you say holstein_whatever [18:21] i should get a ping [18:21] but, i have it set up that way [18:22] coalwater: i would pop into #freenode for a minute [18:22] and see if someone would just kill your extras [18:23] mang0: what version of linux/windows? [18:23] ubuntu 11.04, win XP [18:23] and , not to be captain obvious [18:23] BUT [18:23] from ubuntu [18:23] run in a terminal [18:24] sudo update-grub [18:24] and reboot [18:24] assuming you havent done that* [18:24] Done that, twice :/ [18:24] OK [18:24] well, i say doing anything with a floppy [18:24] not a move forward [18:25] mang0: you see windows in the grub list? [18:25] yes holstein [18:25] and whats the hard drive layout? [18:25] just one drive? [18:26] lin win and swap partitions? [18:26] hold, on, I'm going to reboot, will take 1 sec [18:26] 2 hds, identical, one win, one linux [18:26] right, sec [18:30] holstein: I'm back [18:30] mang0: o/ [18:30] if i were you [18:30] i would probably try something like http://gag.sourceforge.net/ [18:30] pretty sure you can try that 'live' basically === coalwater is now known as test [18:31] coalwater_, test [18:31] :@ [18:31] does anyone know a way to watch mark's keynote? [18:31] then, im assuming you mean you have 2 identical types of hard drives [18:31] you could always unplug the lin one [18:31] holstein: yes, they are identical [18:31] and yes, that's what I did [18:31] but it's a faf [18:31] I have to take the outside of the tower off [18:32] and reach in [18:32] faf? [18:32] bother [18:32] right [18:32] lol. [18:32] OK [18:32] so, you *temprorarily* unpluge the lin one [18:32] run fixmbr or whatever it is [18:32] then, you can chose from the bios at least [18:32] most machine have a popup to choose the boot device anyways [18:33] but, i would try GAG [18:33] yes, but if I choose the win one first then I can't even get to grub [18:33] And I'm going to put it on a floppy disk [18:33] :D [18:33] assuming you feel comfortable restoring grub and mbr [18:33] O.o [18:33] * mang0 thinks [18:33] mang0: ? [18:33] if you choose the win one [18:33] then, boot windows [18:34] hm? [18:34] you have to reboot anyways [18:34] to get to lin [18:34] then, select the lin one [18:34] with my EEEpc [18:34] i hit escape [18:34] and choose whatever i want to boot [18:34] you mean manually change the bios every time I want to boot windows or grub?! [18:34] thats a do-able work around [18:34] *linux [18:34] mang0: kind of [18:34] i mean hit a button [18:34] that selects the boot device [18:34] using the bios [18:35] but not entering into the bios config each time [18:35] for me, I have to go into the bios, select 1st and 2nd boot device, then reboot [18:35] i mean, do what you want [18:35] but doing anything with a floppy disc [18:35] ... [18:35] lol [18:35] but [18:35] try GAG [18:35] will do [18:36] philipballew: ?? [18:36] whats it on? [18:36] TV? [18:36] mark shuttleworth? [18:36] i would say internet video [18:36] teah, from UDS [18:36] *yeah [18:36] should be something open right? [18:37] shoot a link [18:37] and i'll try it [18:38] i havent found one yet [18:38] if i do ill shoot it to the channel [18:39] trying to convert m4a to mp3 using WinFF (ffmpeg) and I keep getting an error Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame' [18:39] philipballew: you mean in general [18:39] is it up somewhere [18:39] i see :) [18:46] holstein: I've worked it out! [18:46] woot [18:46] mang0: ? [18:46] with a floppy disc? [18:47] you see, I've installed winXP a couple of times, and win boot loader seems to think that I have two copies of windows, I have to select wich one to boot from (only one works) [18:47] it seems ubuntu is detecting the one that doesnt exist [18:47] grub is detecting* [18:47] http://pastebin.com/4AYL6ezp [18:47] coco [18:47] cool* [18:47] i was going to ask about that [18:48] but you seemed so sure you only have win and lin [18:48] i have a restore partition that shows up in grub [18:48] shows up as vista [18:48] should be then on another sdX partition [18:48] hm...If grub showed both of them, it would be fine [18:48] sometimes you gotta fiddle with what grub finds automagically [18:48] strange how it only shows one of them... [18:48] but mang0 has windows on two hdd's [18:48] how do I change grub manually? or change it like that... [18:48] no no [18:49] I have windows on one, linux n the other [18:49] I did have windows on two, but i installed linux on one of them [18:49] you didnt clear the whole disk ;) [18:50] enough of something hanging around to cause issues [18:50] I would suggest to keep windows on primary hdd [18:50] bioterror: Actually, i had to pick wich copy of windows to start looong before I installed ubuntu [18:51] even though, only one "copy" worked [18:51] why you didnt clear that boot.ini [18:51] or what was that [18:51] the other just said "fatel error" [18:52] fatal* [18:52] i did a win7 restore here [18:52] still, fix your boot.ini [18:53] before installing ubuntu [18:53] but, i dont think i'll bother next time [18:53] ive only booted in once to make sure grub was working [18:53] how do I fix boot.ini? [18:55] http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 geee [18:55] * nlsthzn stopped trying to use WInFF... Sound Converter did the trick... just in case anyone was wondering :p [18:55] windows boot.ini on google and first hit [18:57] lol k [19:01] sigh, i want to purge xchat [19:01] coalwater: i really dont think its that [19:01] have you rebooted? [19:02] nope , do i need to [19:02] ok, 1 min [19:04] maybe killall xchat would have worked [19:06] there [19:06] coalwater: i bet killall xchat would have worked [19:06] o [19:06] maybe [19:07] i think i might know what's the problem [19:07] maybe it was the minimize to tray option [19:08] lets see if i can re produce that problem [19:10] yup, guess it's that [19:10] minimize to tray removes from the unity menu, but leaves it active in the background [19:19] hey holstein , would https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xchat be the right place to report this? [19:19] or just the main xchat ? without natty? [19:20] ok nvm i think i found a better place [19:25] :) [20:21] * DraZoro is reading http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html [20:26] holstein: ? [20:26] you dere? [20:27] holstein: I want to boot GAG from floppy disk, but it's a zip file. Would that still work? === ibuclaw is now known as ibuclaw-worktop [21:54] * MrChrisDruif isn't sure he should activate the Ati/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers....messed up things/made boot ugly in the past...<_<" [22:03] Nobody? [22:03] * head_victim has never had an ATI graphics card in Ubuntu [22:05] At least an honest answer :D [22:06] holstein i put GAG on a floppy, it doesn't work...it boots up but it only detects windows if i unplug the ubuntu harddrive... [22:07] mang0|mobile: ? [22:07] that makes sense right? [22:07] Not to me... [22:07] oh, i see [22:08] hmmm [22:08] something is funky with the way you have installed [22:08] if it were me [22:08] i would probably try and blow out all the boot sectors [22:08] and reinstall grub [22:08] using a live CD [22:09] what is that and how would i do it? [22:09] Oh [22:09] its all at that link really [22:09] !grub [22:09] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [22:09] Im on my phone can't see whilst im typing [22:10] how to do the live CD and what not [22:10] *reinstall grub from a live CD [22:10] sounds like you just blew over some bad windows install anyways [22:11] Its my boot.ini that's screwed up [22:11] right [22:11] so, i would look there [22:11] try and get windows sorted [22:12] I mean, i can boot both it just means unpluging hich is a bother [22:12] well, that just means nothing is so bad it cant be fixed [22:12] i would step away from the floppy discs [22:13] and just re-do some MBR's [22:13] Cuz now i have 2 boot options for windows even though only one works...grub is detecting the non working one i think [22:13] right [22:13] you can edit grbu [22:13] grub* [22:13] manually [22:14] to use the other one [22:14] :o [22:14] thats probably easy enough [22:14] woot! [22:15] Do you know how i go about doing that? or is it a #grub problem... [22:15] you'll just edit the file that says #do not edit this file ;) [22:15] something like that [22:15] lemme look... [22:16] Oh! i saw that file earlier! [22:17] yeah [22:17] /boot/grub/grub.cfg [22:17] What would i edit in there? [22:18] whatever it takes [22:18] *make a backup [22:18] right now [22:18] Im scared i might screw something up lol [22:18] maybe its as easy as set root='(hd0,1)' [22:18] or whatever the equivalent is for the windows boot entry [22:18] mang0|mobile: you should be [22:18] you should back that up [22:19] you should have your data backed up [22:19] Wut? tomorrow i will look at it. atm computer is off [22:19] and be ready to recover grub with a live CD === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO [22:19] 10.10 livecd do? [22:19] mang0|mobile: you should back up /boot/grub/grub.cfg [22:19] mang0|mobile: yes [22:20] Or 11.04 alternate install disk [22:20] not alternate* [22:20] any of the live CD's [22:20] K [22:22] Anyway, im off now :) cya tomoz, and thanks for helping me :D [22:22] sure [22:23] If i start getting too nooby and annoying for ya just tell me, you don't have to help :) [22:40] can someone tell me which session to write a disk image of Ubuntu with infrarecorder? [22:40] is it Session-At-Once? [22:40] i'm on windows and don't know my way around to well with this [22:40] eiriksvin: let me tell you what you want [22:41] and you can decode that in infrarecorder terminology [22:41] wuth Ubuntu its so easy... 3 clicks [22:41] you want to basically copy a disc [22:41] this can be done several ways [22:41] you have 2 burners [22:41] put the source in, and the destintion [22:42] and copy [22:42] OR [22:42] you put the disc in [22:42] and the machine makes a copy of that image on the machine [22:42] and writes that to another disc [22:42] thats what you want to do [22:42] except [22:42] the image is something you downloaded [22:42] SO, you make a copy [22:42] I want to burn an image of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for amd64 (64 bit) onto a disk that i downloaded [22:42] using the downloaded image as the source [22:42] and a CD as the destination [22:43] eiriksvin: right [22:43] ^ [22:43] thats how you do it [22:43] i dont have that software [22:43] i could try and install it in wine [22:43] and look [22:43] and tell you the exact button to click on [22:44] but, i think you can probably sort it out with the information above :) [22:44] thats what i'm doing, and it asks for the sesion type: SAO, TAO,TAO zero pre-gap [22:44] and so on [22:44] right [22:44] SO, thats not it [22:44] it wont ask you anything [22:44] when you do it right [22:44] it'll just copy [22:45] using the downloaded image [22:45] the .iso [22:45] as a sourc [22:45] e [22:45] im on windows, not ubuntu, im at my sisters house getting 10.04 cus i cant play games on Natty [22:45] it wont read my nVIDIA [22:46] but i know 10.04 does and im going back [22:46] eiriksvin: right [22:46] i understand that [22:46] its just, im on ubuntu and not windows [22:46] SO, i dont know how infrarecord works [22:46] the terminology could be different [22:47] i have downloaded the iso burner that was suggested at ubuntu.com [22:47] and thats all i was wondering [22:47] should i do simulation while its writing? [22:47] eiriksvin: i have never seen that software [22:48] however, i am downloading it [22:48] and i'll see if it runs in wine [22:48] thank you [22:50] eiriksvin: OK [22:50] so, what are you doing? [22:50] burning? [22:50] close it down if not [22:51] start infrarecorder [22:51]