[00:26] <[styx]> lol
[00:26] <[styx]> ubuntu randomly loggged me out
[00:31] <nit-wit> you mean the #ubuntu
[00:31] <nit-wit> or your OS
[03:46] <froq> How the **** do I change text color in xChat?!  I went to preferences and thought I was doing it correct, however it was to not avail!
[11:14] <ApOgEE> hello all
[11:50] <stlsaint> duanedesign: ping
[11:50] <duanedesign> stlsaint: pong
[11:51] <stlsaint> duanedesign: oh hey
[11:51] <stlsaint> duanedesign: we can talk in -dev if your in there
[12:12] <s7nf> Hey guys. There is one program which I need, but at downloads it is listed as Debian software
[12:12] <s7nf> this usually means that it is not for ubuntu. Am I right? Is there anything I can do?
[12:14] <stlsaint> s7nf: you do know that ubuntu is built with debian so that software is safe for ubuntu use
[12:14] <stlsaint> s7nf: first off what package are we talking about here?
[12:15] <s7nf> hi stlsaint , im talking about http://orange.biolab.si/nightly_builds.html
[12:16] <s7nf> btw, what is meant by the word package?
[12:18] <stlsaint> s7nf: nice app there (in google summer of code too ;) )
[12:18] <stlsaint> s7nf: just the app name
[12:18] <stlsaint> is what i was asking about
[12:19] <stlsaint> s7nf: well i would say that it is safe to install that app on your machine
[12:19] <s7nf> ok tnx, will do that :)
[12:20] <stlsaint> s7nf: "Packages are not signed as they are made automatically so you will probably be warned about this."
[12:20] <stlsaint> s7nf: ^^ something to be aware of
[12:21] <s7nf> ok, tnx
[12:48] <s7nf> stlsaint,  you still here? After installing it, and trying to run it, I get this error: ImportError: No module named orngEnviron . Should I set the environment variables?
[12:56] <stlsaint> s7nf: check the website documentation first
[12:57] <stlsaint> i do not know what environment variable must be set for a app to run in this manner
[14:30] <duanedesign> bioterror: ping
[14:30] <UndiFineD> pang
[14:58] <bioterror> duanedesign, dong!
[15:01] <duanedesign> hello bioterror
[15:01] <duanedesign> bioterror: have a second for a PM?
[17:17] <MacMan1> Having trouble installing Kubuntu, mounting fails early on.  any ideas?
[17:17] <stlsaint> MacMan1: bad iso download or bad install medium
[17:17] <stlsaint> cd, usb, etc
[17:24] <MacMan1> ok, sounds good.  I'll try again.
[17:24] <MacMan1> thanks!
[18:07] <aztek> hi all...
[18:07] <DraZoro> Hi aztek
[18:08] <aztek> it is difficult for me to find ubuntu books or linux books in my town...
[18:09] <aztek> any body has the e-books?
[18:09] <DraZoro> You need hard copies ?
[18:09] <aztek> e-books..
[18:10] <DraZoro> aztek : Google is your friend ....
[18:10] <holstein> aztek: what are you looking for?
[18:11] <DraZoro> azteck: There so many topics ..my internet is giving me issues now
[18:11] <holstein> the ubuntu wikis are quite handy
[18:11] <holstein> assuming you have internet access everywhere
[18:11] <coalwater> any one uses xchat here?
[18:11] <holstein> coalwater: i have in the past
[18:11] <holstein> whats up?
[18:12] <aztek> holstein: ok, i am going to browsing.. :-D
[18:12] <coalwater> well, xchat is acting weird, if u check the user list ull find coalwater, coalwater_ , coalwater__ , all 3 in the channel, and they are all active, it doesn't time out, and if u talk to any one i get a notifcation, it's annoying, i want to kill the rest
[18:12] <Error404NotFound> moo
[18:13] <holstein> thats probably less to do with xchat
[18:13] <holstein> and more to do with users
[18:13] <holstein> i would ghost your nick
[18:13] <holstein> and make sure you dont have any other clients running
[18:13] <coalwater> yea, i can ghost my self but i cant ghost the rest
[18:13] <coalwater> i get an xchat notification with any name
[18:13] <holstein> well, it *should* get sorted out
[18:13] <holstein> eventually
[18:14] <holstein> you can ask freenode to clean them out
[18:14] <holstein> or a + in here to kick them
[18:15] <coalwater> they come back when i re login
[18:16] <holstein> yeah?
[18:16] <holstein> thats odd
[18:16] <holstein> i suppose in that case
[18:16] <holstein> i would look for .xchat
[18:16] <holstein> or whatever the config is
[18:16] <holstein> in /home
[18:16] <holstein> and throw it out
[18:16] <holstein> you could rename it temporarily
[18:16] <holstein> so you can revert
[18:17] <holstein> IF that doesnt do anything
[18:17] <mang0> I need to use super grub on a floppy drive, I have the ISO, how do I make it bootable?
[18:17] <coalwater> ok, ill delete every thing , i dont mind re configuring
[18:17] <holstein> mang0: what are you trying to do?
[18:17] <coalwater> brb for now
[18:18] <mang0> holstein: for some reason, grub won't boot iup windows. It gets stuck on a underscore
[18:18] <mang0> I need supergrub to try it :)
[18:18] <holstein> yeah?
[18:18] <holstein> i dont
[18:18] <holstein> win7 just boots for me
[18:18] <holstein> coalwater: the other users
[18:18] <holstein> they didnt budge
[18:18] <coalwater> holstein, they came back with me ? lol
[18:18] <holstein> im still not convinced the issue is on your end
[18:19] <holstein> coalwater: i think it just seems like they did
[18:19] <holstein> they actually didnt go anywhere
[18:19] <coalwater> they should time out
[18:19] <holstein> i think they are just stuck
[18:19] <holstein> coalwater: *should*
[18:19] <coalwater> coalwater_,  test
[18:19] <coalwater> i still get the notifications :( lol
[18:19] <holstein> odd
[18:19] <mang0> but how do I make a floopy disk bootable anyway? I need to write the iso to it...how?
[18:19] <holstein> well
[18:19] <holstein> coalwater: that depends
[18:20] <holstein> you could get coalwater notifications
[18:20] <holstein> and coalwater__ or coalwater_whatever
[18:20] <holstein> would ping you
[18:20] <holstein> mang0: well, i can reffer you to the grub wiki
[18:20] <holstein> !grub
[18:20] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[18:20] <coalwater> holstein_ , wouldnt ping u would it
[18:20] <holstein> thats where i go for that kind of think
[18:20] <mang0> k thanks
[18:21] <holstein> mang0: but, i would be trying to make the current grub just boot windows
[18:21] <mang0> Tried that :/
[18:21] <holstein> since, for most everyone else, this is auto-magic
[18:21] <mang0> I WILL TRY MORE!
[18:21] <holstein> coalwater: if you say holstein_whatever
[18:21] <holstein> i should get a ping
[18:21] <holstein> but, i have it set up that way
[18:22] <holstein> coalwater: i would pop into #freenode for a minute
[18:22] <holstein> and see if someone would just kill your extras
[18:23] <holstein> mang0: what version of linux/windows?
[18:23] <mang0> ubuntu 11.04, win XP
[18:23] <holstein> and , not to be captain obvious
[18:23] <holstein> BUT
[18:23] <holstein> from ubuntu
[18:23] <holstein> run in a terminal
[18:24] <holstein> sudo update-grub
[18:24] <holstein> and reboot
[18:24] <holstein> assuming you havent done that*
[18:24] <mang0> Done that, twice :/
[18:24] <holstein> OK
[18:24] <holstein> well, i say doing anything with a floppy
[18:24] <holstein> not a move forward
[18:25] <holstein> mang0: you see windows in the grub list?
[18:25] <mang0> yes holstein
[18:25] <holstein> and whats the hard drive layout?
[18:25] <holstein> just one drive?
[18:26] <holstein> lin win and swap partitions?
[18:26] <mang0> hold, on, I'm going to reboot, will take 1 sec
[18:26] <mang0> 2 hds, identical, one win, one linux
[18:26] <mang0> right, sec
[18:30] <mang0> holstein: I'm back
[18:30] <holstein> mang0: o/
[18:30] <holstein> if i were you
[18:30] <holstein> i would probably try something like http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[18:30] <holstein> pretty sure you can try that 'live' basically
[18:31] <test> coalwater_, test
[18:31] <test> :@
[18:31] <philipballew> does anyone know a way to watch mark's keynote?
[18:31] <holstein> then, im assuming you mean you have 2 identical types of hard drives
[18:31] <holstein> you could always unplug the lin one
[18:31] <mang0> holstein: yes, they are identical
[18:31] <mang0> and yes, that's what I did
[18:31] <mang0> but it's a faf
[18:31] <mang0> I have to take the outside of the tower off
[18:32] <mang0> and reach in
[18:32] <holstein> faf?
[18:32] <mang0> bother
[18:32] <holstein> right
[18:32] <mang0> lol.
[18:32] <holstein> OK
[18:32] <holstein> so, you *temprorarily* unpluge the lin one
[18:32] <holstein> run fixmbr or whatever it is
[18:32] <holstein> then, you can chose from the bios at least
[18:32] <holstein> most machine have a popup to choose the boot device anyways
[18:33] <holstein> but, i would try GAG
[18:33] <mang0> yes, but if I choose the win one first then I can't even get to grub
[18:33] <mang0> And I'm going to put it on a floppy disk
[18:33] <mang0> :D
[18:33] <holstein> assuming you feel comfortable restoring grub and mbr
[18:33] <mang0> O.o
[18:33]  * mang0 thinks
[18:33] <holstein> mang0: ?
[18:33] <holstein> if you choose the win one
[18:33] <holstein> then, boot windows
[18:34] <mang0> hm?
[18:34] <holstein> you have to reboot anyways
[18:34] <holstein> to get to lin
[18:34] <holstein> then, select the lin one
[18:34] <holstein> with my EEEpc
[18:34] <holstein> i hit escape
[18:34] <holstein> and choose whatever i want to boot
[18:34] <mang0> you mean manually change the bios every time I want to boot windows or grub?!
[18:34] <holstein> thats a do-able work around
[18:34] <mang0> *linux
[18:34] <holstein> mang0: kind of
[18:34] <holstein> i mean hit a button
[18:34] <holstein> that selects the boot device
[18:34] <holstein> using the bios
[18:35] <holstein> but not entering into the bios config each time
[18:35] <mang0> for me, I have to go into the bios, select 1st and 2nd boot device, then reboot
[18:35] <holstein> i mean, do what you want
[18:35] <holstein> but doing anything with a floppy disc
[18:35] <holstein> ...
[18:35] <mang0> lol
[18:35] <mang0> but
[18:35] <holstein> try GAG
[18:35] <mang0> will do
[18:36] <holstein> philipballew: ??
[18:36] <holstein> whats it on?
[18:36] <holstein> TV?
[18:36] <holstein> mark shuttleworth?
[18:36] <philipballew> i would say internet video
[18:36] <philipballew> teah, from UDS
[18:36] <philipballew> *yeah
[18:36] <holstein> should be something open right?
[18:37] <holstein> shoot a link
[18:37] <holstein> and i'll try it
[18:38] <philipballew> i havent found one yet
[18:38] <philipballew> if i do ill shoot it to the channel
[18:39] <nlsthzn> trying to convert m4a to mp3 using WinFF (ffmpeg) and I keep getting an error Unknown encoder 'libmp3lame'
[18:39] <holstein> philipballew: you mean in general
[18:39] <holstein> is it up somewhere
[18:39] <holstein> i see :)
[18:46] <mang0> holstein: I've worked it out!
[18:46] <mang0> woot
[18:46] <holstein> mang0: ?
[18:46] <holstein> with a floppy disc?
[18:47] <mang0> you see, I've installed winXP a couple of times, and win boot loader seems to think that I have two copies of windows, I have to select wich one to boot from (only one works)
[18:47] <mang0> it seems ubuntu is detecting the one that doesnt exist
[18:47] <mang0> grub is detecting*
[18:47] <mang0> http://pastebin.com/4AYL6ezp
[18:47] <holstein> coco
[18:47] <holstein> cool*
[18:47] <holstein> i was going to ask about that
[18:48] <holstein> but you seemed so sure you only have win and lin
[18:48] <holstein> i have a restore partition that shows up in grub
[18:48] <holstein> shows up as vista
[18:48] <bioterror> should be then on another sdX partition
[18:48] <mang0> hm...If grub showed both of them, it would be fine
[18:48] <holstein> sometimes you gotta fiddle with what grub finds automagically
[18:48] <mang0> strange how it only shows one of them...
[18:48] <bioterror> but mang0 has windows on two hdd's
[18:48] <mang0> how do I change grub manually? or change it like that...
[18:48] <mang0> no no
[18:49] <mang0> I have windows on one, linux n the other
[18:49] <mang0> I did have windows on two, but i installed linux on one of them
[18:49] <bioterror> you didnt clear the whole disk ;)
[18:50] <holstein> enough of something hanging around to cause issues
[18:50] <bioterror> I would suggest to keep windows on primary hdd
[18:50] <mang0> bioterror: Actually, i had to pick wich copy of windows to start looong before I installed ubuntu
[18:51] <mang0> even though, only one "copy" worked
[18:51] <bioterror> why you didnt clear that boot.ini
[18:51] <bioterror> or what was that
[18:51] <mang0> the other just said "fatel error"
[18:52] <mang0> fatal*
[18:52] <holstein> i did a win7 restore here
[18:52] <bioterror> still, fix your boot.ini
[18:53] <holstein> before installing ubuntu
[18:53] <holstein> but, i dont think i'll bother next time
[18:53] <holstein> ive only booted in once to make sure grub was working
[18:53] <mang0> how do I fix boot.ini?
[18:55] <bioterror> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 geee
[18:55]  * nlsthzn stopped trying to use WInFF... Sound Converter did the trick... just in case anyone was wondering :p
[18:55] <bioterror> windows boot.ini on google and first hit
[18:57] <mang0> lol k
[19:01] <coalwater> sigh, i want to purge xchat
[19:01] <holstein> coalwater: i really dont think its that
[19:01] <holstein> have you rebooted?
[19:02] <coalwater> nope , do i need to
[19:02] <coalwater> ok, 1 min
[19:04] <holstein> maybe killall xchat would have worked
[19:06] <coalwater> there
[19:06] <holstein> coalwater: i bet killall xchat would have worked
[19:06] <coalwater> o
[19:06] <coalwater> maybe
[19:07] <coalwater> i think i might know what's the problem
[19:07] <coalwater> maybe it was the minimize to tray option
[19:08] <coalwater> lets see if i can re produce that problem
[19:10] <coalwater_> yup, guess it's that
[19:10] <coalwater_> minimize to tray removes from the unity menu, but leaves it active in the background
[19:19] <coalwater_> hey holstein , would https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/xchat be the right place to report this?
[19:19] <coalwater_> or just the main xchat ? without natty?
[19:20] <coalwater_> ok nvm i think i found a better place
[19:25] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[20:21]  * DraZoro is reading http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[20:26] <mang0> holstein: ?
[20:26] <mang0> you dere?
[20:27] <mang0> holstein: I want to boot GAG from floppy disk, but it's a zip file. Would that still work?
[21:54]  * MrChrisDruif isn't sure he should activate the Ati/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers....messed up things/made boot ugly in the past...<_<"
[22:03] <MrChrisDruif> Nobody?
[22:03]  * head_victim has never had an ATI graphics card in Ubuntu
[22:05] <MrChrisDruif> At least an honest answer :D
[22:06] <mang0|mobile> holstein i put GAG on a floppy, it doesn't work...it boots up but it only detects windows if i unplug the ubuntu harddrive...
[22:07] <holstein> mang0|mobile: ?
[22:07] <holstein> that makes sense right?
[22:07] <mang0|mobile> Not to me...
[22:07] <holstein> oh, i see
[22:08] <holstein> hmmm
[22:08] <holstein> something is funky with the way you have installed
[22:08] <holstein> if it were me
[22:08] <holstein> i would probably try and blow out all the boot sectors
[22:08] <holstein> and reinstall grub
[22:08] <holstein> using a live CD
[22:09] <mang0|mobile> what is that and how would i do it?
[22:09] <mang0|mobile> Oh
[22:09] <holstein> its all at that link really
[22:09] <holstein> !grub
[22:09] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[22:09] <mang0|mobile> Im on my phone can't see whilst im typing
[22:10] <holstein> how to do the live CD and what not
[22:10] <holstein> *reinstall grub from a live CD
[22:10] <holstein> sounds like you just blew over some bad windows install anyways
[22:11] <mang0|mobile> Its my boot.ini that's screwed up
[22:11] <holstein> right
[22:11] <holstein> so, i would look there
[22:11] <holstein> try and get windows sorted
[22:12] <mang0|mobile> I mean, i can boot both it just means unpluging hich is a bother
[22:12] <holstein> well, that just means nothing is so bad it cant be fixed
[22:12] <holstein> i would step away from the floppy discs
[22:13] <holstein> and just re-do some MBR's
[22:13] <mang0|mobile> Cuz now i have 2 boot options for windows even though only one works...grub is detecting the non working one i think
[22:13] <holstein> right
[22:13] <holstein> you can edit grbu
[22:13] <holstein> grub*
[22:13] <holstein> manually
[22:14] <holstein> to use the other one
[22:14] <mang0|mobile> :o
[22:14] <holstein> thats probably easy enough
[22:14] <mang0|mobile> woot!
[22:15] <mang0|mobile> Do you know how i go about doing that? or is it a #grub problem...
[22:15] <holstein> you'll just edit the file that says #do not edit this file ;)
[22:15] <holstein> something like that
[22:15] <holstein> lemme look...
[22:16] <mang0|mobile> Oh! i saw that file earlier!
[22:17] <holstein> yeah
[22:17] <holstein> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:17] <mang0|mobile> What would i edit in there?
[22:18] <holstein> whatever it takes
[22:18] <holstein> *make a backup
[22:18] <holstein> right now
[22:18] <mang0|mobile> Im scared i might screw something up lol
[22:18] <holstein> maybe its as easy as set root='(hd0,1)'
[22:18] <holstein> or whatever the equivalent is for the windows boot entry
[22:18] <holstein> mang0|mobile: you should be
[22:18] <holstein> you should back that up
[22:19] <holstein> you should have your data backed up
[22:19] <mang0|mobile> Wut? tomorrow i will look at it. atm computer is off
[22:19] <holstein> and be ready to recover grub with a live CD
[22:19] <mang0|mobile> 10.10 livecd do?
[22:19] <holstein> mang0|mobile: you should back up /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[22:19] <holstein> mang0|mobile: yes
[22:20] <mang0|mobile> Or 11.04 alternate install disk
[22:20] <holstein> not alternate*
[22:20] <holstein> any of the live CD's
[22:20] <mang0|mobile> K
[22:22] <mang0|mobile> Anyway, im off now :) cya tomoz, and thanks for helping me :D
[22:22] <holstein> sure
[22:23] <mang0|mobile> If i start getting too nooby and annoying for ya just tell me, you don't have to help :)
[22:40] <eiriksvin> can someone tell me which session to write a disk image of Ubuntu with infrarecorder?
[22:40] <eiriksvin> is it Session-At-Once?
[22:40] <eiriksvin> i'm on windows and don't know my way around to well with this
[22:40] <holstein> eiriksvin: let me tell you what you want
[22:41] <holstein> and you can decode that in infrarecorder terminology
[22:41] <eiriksvin> wuth Ubuntu its so easy... 3 clicks
[22:41] <holstein> you want to basically copy a disc
[22:41] <holstein> this can be done several ways
[22:41] <holstein> you have 2 burners
[22:41] <holstein> put the source in, and the destintion
[22:42] <holstein> and copy
[22:42] <holstein> OR
[22:42] <holstein> you put the disc in
[22:42] <holstein> and the machine makes a copy of that image on the machine
[22:42] <holstein> and writes that to another disc
[22:42] <holstein> thats what you want to do
[22:42] <holstein> except
[22:42] <holstein> the image is something you downloaded
[22:42] <holstein> SO, you make a copy
[22:42] <eiriksvin> I want to burn an image of the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for amd64 (64 bit) onto a disk that i downloaded
[22:42] <holstein> using the downloaded image as the source
[22:42] <holstein> and a CD as the destination
[22:43] <holstein> eiriksvin: right
[22:43] <holstein> ^
[22:43] <holstein> thats how you do it
[22:43] <holstein> i dont have that software
[22:43] <holstein> i could try and install it in wine
[22:43] <holstein> and look
[22:43] <holstein> and tell you the exact button to click on
[22:44] <holstein> but, i think you can probably sort it out with the information above :)
[22:44] <eiriksvin> thats what i'm doing, and it asks for the sesion type: SAO, TAO,TAO zero pre-gap
[22:44] <eiriksvin> and so on
[22:44] <holstein> right
[22:44] <holstein> SO, thats not it
[22:44] <holstein> it wont ask you anything
[22:44] <holstein> when you do it right
[22:44] <holstein> it'll just copy
[22:45] <holstein> using the downloaded image
[22:45] <holstein> the .iso
[22:45] <holstein> as a sourc
[22:45] <holstein> e
[22:45] <eiriksvin> im on windows, not ubuntu, im at my sisters house getting 10.04 cus i cant play games on Natty
[22:45] <eiriksvin> it wont read my nVIDIA
[22:46] <eiriksvin> but i know 10.04 does and im going back
[22:46] <holstein> eiriksvin: right
[22:46] <holstein> i understand that
[22:46] <holstein> its just, im on ubuntu and not windows
[22:46] <holstein> SO, i dont know how infrarecord works
[22:46] <holstein> the terminology could be different
[22:47] <eiriksvin> i have downloaded the iso burner that was suggested at ubuntu.com
[22:47] <eiriksvin> and thats all i was wondering
[22:47] <eiriksvin> should i do simulation while its writing?
[22:47] <holstein> eiriksvin: i have never seen that software
[22:48] <holstein> however, i am downloading it
[22:48] <holstein> and i'll see if it runs in wine
[22:48] <eiriksvin> thank you
[22:50] <holstein> eiriksvin: OK
[22:50] <holstein> so, what are you doing?
[22:50] <holstein> burning?
[22:50] <holstein> close it down if not
[22:51] <holstein> start infrarecorder
[22:51] <eiriksvin> yes, im burning at 10x in simulation mode
[22:51] <holstein> and you get a splash screen
[22:51] <holstein> click
[22:51] <holstein> 'copy disc'
[22:51] <eiriksvin> im wring disk
[22:51] <eiriksvin> writing
[22:51] <holstein> and you'll see 'source' and 'target'
[22:52] <eiriksvin> it says burning image
[22:52] <holstein> thats pretty much what i was saying above
[22:52] <holstein> except target = destination
[22:52] <eiriksvin> ok
[22:52] <holstein> SO, if what you're doing doesnt work
[22:52] <holstein> thats what you do :)
[22:52] <eiriksvin> sorry for the confusion
[22:52] <holstein> nah
[22:52] <holstein> its challengin
[22:52] <holstein> g
[22:53] <holstein> no worries
[22:53] <holstein> its just, i have never seen that software
[22:53] <eiriksvin> i'm trying to install Ubuntu on an intel quad core ACPI x64 which version should i get? the i386 or the amd64?
[22:53] <holstein> eiriksvin: thats up to you
[22:53] <head_victim> eiriksvin: I"ve used 64bit versions without dramas for a year or two now
[22:53] <holstein> yeah, the 64bit drama is quite minimal these days
[22:53] <eiriksvin> (first i had to get a new ubuntu for my pc) now im doing my sisters
[22:54] <head_victim> Some people have limited success with flash but then again people have issues with 32bit flash as well
[22:54] <holstein> flash is just not all that great for us
[22:54] <holstein> in general
[22:54] <head_victim> eiriksvin: my logic is not "why should I use 64bit" but "why should I NOT use 64 bit"
[22:55] <holstein> i have one 32bit only application
[22:55] <holstein> but i can use another box for it
[22:55] <eiriksvin> ok, but i don't know what to do about the i386 64 bit, or amd64 64bit
[22:56]  * holstein gotta run... laterx
[22:56] <eiriksvin> i was told to try both but i don't want to screew anything up
[22:56] <eiriksvin> awe crappers
[22:56] <holstein> theres only the 2 options
[22:56] <holstein> 32 and 64bit
[22:56] <holstein> i386=32
[22:57] <holstein> x86
[22:57] <holstein> whatever
[22:57] <holstein> search around for wikipages about 32 and 64bit procs :)
[22:57] <eiriksvin> i thought it was chip based
[22:57] <holstein> your chip will be 64bit or 32bit
[22:58] <holstein> you can run 32bit OS's on a 64bit chip
[22:58] <holstein> not the other way...
[22:58] <holstein> anyways... BBL
[22:58] <eiriksvin> kk
[23:13] <jsebean> what should I use, Ubuntu 11.04 or Ubuntu 10.04?