| AlanBell | cjohnston: did the pad-for-plenaries merge get landed, not seeing what I expected on roundtables and other things | 06:40 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | AlanBell: your merge requested yesterday was landed, but I'm not sure it was deployed yet | 06:40 |
| cjohnston | afaik it was supposed to | 06:41 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: not mine | 06:41 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: oh, there was another merge? | 06:41 |
| AlanBell | https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/pad-for-plenaries/+merge/60310 | 06:41 |
| cjohnston | james_w`: Daviey ping | 06:41 |
| AlanBell | and I see a private meeting with notes! | 06:42 |
| cjohnston | uggh | 06:42 |
| cjohnston | so the code is broke | 06:42 |
| AlanBell | 10:00 Erkel | 06:42 |
| cjohnston | mhall119: ping | 06:43 |
| cjohnston | AlanBell: that meeting seems to not be marked private | 06:45 |
| cjohnston | jcastro is changing it now | 06:45 |
| AlanBell | ok | 06:45 |
| AlanBell | are the plenaries and round tables marked private? | 06:46 |
| cjohnston | but your correct that the roundtables and such still dont have it | 06:46 |
| cjohnston | i dont know | 06:46 |
| AlanBell | the merge looks good to me! | 06:46 |
| cjohnston | I don't know then | 06:47 |
| AlanBell | two of the four monday plenaries have notes | 06:47 |
| cjohnston | the roundtables dont have them | 06:48 |
| cjohnston | AlanBell: have you tested the code locally to see if it works locally | 06:52 |
| AlanBell | doing that now | 06:53 |
| AlanBell | in render.py at the top of meeting_div it does some stuff with _cached_html | 06:55 |
| cjohnston | ya | 06:55 |
| cjohnston | I saw that the other day | 06:55 |
| AlanBell | reading render.py I can't see anything else that might prevent it from working | 06:56 |
| czajkowski | morning | 06:58 |
| cjohnston | o/ | 06:58 |
| AlanBell | the code works locally | 06:58 |
| AlanBell | as far as I can tell, I created a meeting, called it round table, put it in the round table track, didn't include wiki or blueprint and it got the icon | 06:59 |
| AlanBell | dunno if there is a way to clear the cache without a summit restart and I am not sure if the changes were landed without a restart | 07:00 |
| AlanBell | looks like landing the changes should have caused a restart anyway | 07:05 |
| AlanBell | spads has sorted it all out \o/ | 07:25 |
| AlanBell | well the etherpad theme that is | 07:26 |
| AlanBell | not the round table links | 07:26 |
| james_w` | hi cjohnston | 07:27 |
| cjohnston | james_w`: we are having an issue with the etherpad links still.. are you in the grand ballroom? | 07:48 |
| nigelb | oh brilliant | 07:49 |
| nigelb | another summit deployment \o/ | 07:49 |
| cjohnston | shush | 07:49 |
| AlanBell | icecast is up | 07:58 |
| czajkowski | paultag: oi cranky | 08:05 |
| mhall119 | nigelbabu: +1 | 08:06 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: :) | 08:06 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: where are you? | 08:07 |
| cjohnston | nigelbabu: right next to me | 08:07 |
| nigelbabu | cjohnston: where are you both? | 08:07 |
| mhall119 | nigelbabu: right side, 3rd row, between cjohnston and pleia2 | 08:07 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: aha. I'm sitting behind hypatia | 08:07 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: does the pad server make periodic backups of the pad contents? | 08:07 |
| cjohnston | nigelbabu: summit is all better | 08:08 |
| mhall119 | nigelbabu: where's hypatia? | 08:08 |
| AlanBell | it constantly saves mhall119 | 08:08 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: look for pink hair ;) | 08:08 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: cool | 08:08 |
| pleia2 | she has bright pink hair :) | 08:08 |
| pleia2 | ah | 08:08 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: 4th row, left side | 08:08 |
| mhall119 | nigelbabu died his hair? | 08:08 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: *her* | 08:08 |
| mhall119 | :P | 08:08 |
| mhall119 | I'm slow typing today | 08:08 |
| AlanBell | did akgraner get orange/aubergine hair? | 08:09 |
| pleia2 | alas, no | 08:10 |
| nigelbabu | sad | 08:12 |
| dholbach | jcastro, around? | 08:14 |
| dholbach | can somebody get jcastro's attention and point him to IRC? :) | 08:18 |
| mhall119 | I haven't seen jcastro all morning | 08:18 |
| dholbach | he's in row 2 on the left side of the room | 08:19 |
| dholbach | aisle seat :) | 08:19 |
| mhall119 | got his attention | 08:19 |
| * dholbach hugs mhall119 | 08:20 | |
| mhall119 | but he's still playing on chrome | 08:20 |
| dholbach | bah :) | 08:20 |
| jcastro | dholbach: yo | 08:21 |
| dholbach | hey jcastro | 08:21 |
| dholbach | jcastro, I PMed you | 08:21 |
| nigelbabu | jcastro: lol, i was logged into summit as jorge :p | 08:26 |
| nigelbabu | just loggec out ;) | 08:26 |
| mhall119 | nigelbabu: don't break anything! | 08:28 |
| nigelbabu | mhall119: i was afraid of death at jcastro's hands. Logged out :p | 08:28 |
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| czajkowski | streaming keeps cutting in and out | 09:04 |
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| mhall119 | czajkowski: probably a network problem on this end | 09:13 |
| czajkowski | :( | 09:14 |
| * popey points czajkowski at #ubuntu-uds | 09:19 | |
| dholbach | Daviey, | 09:44 |
| dholbach | Daviey, where are you hanging out right now? | 09:44 |
| dholbach | Daviey, I need your help | 09:45 |
| Daviey | o/ | 09:49 |
| Daviey | dholbach: I can find you. | 09:50 |
| Daviey | Where are you? | 09:50 |
| dholbach | Daviey, behind you | 09:50 |
| Daviey | ass hole. | 09:50 |
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| mhall119 | lol | 09:59 |
| nigelb | mhall119: why? | 09:59 |
| daker | when UDS will start ? | 10:05 |
| popey | daker: its on now | 10:07 |
| daker | popey, thanks | 10:07 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: ping | 10:11 |
| jcastro | ok talked to marianna | 10:11 |
| jcastro | we can keep the room today | 10:11 |
| jcastro | but we need to delete it for tomorrow | 10:11 |
| jcastro | and reschedule the sessions in that room to just the general pool | 10:11 |
| jcastro | cjohnston: ok I will delete it tonight | 10:14 |
| popey | grrr | 10:14 |
| popey | audio keeps dropping | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | popey: which session you listening to now | 10:15 |
| popey | http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/kond.ogg.m3u | 10:15 |
| popey | i get 5 seconds then it stops | 10:15 |
| cjohnston | ok.. | 10:15 |
| popey | makes remote participation incredibly frustrating | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | or people talkign at the back of the room | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | like who ever is talking now | 10:17 |
| popey | grrr | 10:20 |
| * czajkowski hands popey a rice krispey | 10:21 | |
| popey | my clutch broke on the car this morning :( | 10:22 |
| popey | I'm more annoyed that I can't participate in UDS than the fact that my car is now scrap | 10:22 |
| czajkowski | popey: :( | 10:23 |
| czajkowski | tis frustrating | 10:23 |
| czajkowski | lying here one machine job hunbting and the other trying my best to listen in | 10:23 |
| czajkowski | 2nd session in a row | 10:23 |
| popey | czajkowski: is the audio fine for you? | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | nope | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | same for folks in-uds | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | making a tea and giving up for this session | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | making me too mad to try adn take part adn cant | 10:33 |
| popey | this is why I gave up on the last UDS, it was just impossible to actually take part at all | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | :( | 10:35 |
| czajkowski | tis a bit of a kicker tbh | 10:36 |
| Pendulum | that's really sad since in Dallas it was good | 10:39 |
| Pendulum | (I'm on 3G modem so not even really going to try until I'm home Thursday) | 10:39 |
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| huats | hello everyone | 11:04 |
| joey | cjohnston, Daviey, mhall119, nigelb - https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779833 | 11:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 779833 in summit "summit cache shows old room in track view when session is moved by hand" [Undecided,New] | 11:14 |
| joey | nigelb: thanks for fixing the hide tracks not for me...think that was you | 11:15 |
| nigelb | joey: yeah, that was mhall119 :-) | 11:15 |
| cjohnston | joey: the cache needs to be cleared out would be my guess | 11:15 |
| joey | ah well then, thanks mhall119! | 11:16 |
| joey | cjohnston: yeah Daviey did it for me a few moments ago | 11:16 |
| cjohnston | ok | 11:16 |
| duanedesign | morning all | 11:50 |
| czajkowski | sigh | 11:59 |
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| paultag | dholbach: moin. Sorry if my post was a bit terse and inciteful, it really was ment to be productive (but I wrote it the night before a final, writing an essay) | 13:15 |
| dholbach | paultag, I'm just glad you're not super frustrated | 13:15 |
| paultag | speaking of, I need to run to a final now | 13:15 |
| paultag | dholbach: no, not at all | 13:15 |
| dholbach | rock on | 13:15 |
| paultag | dholbach: I said "bit" in the title :) | 13:16 |
| dholbach | well, the rest .... | 13:16 |
| nigelbabu | so we should get you more frustrated? | 13:16 |
| dholbach | nevermind - good luck with your finals | 13:16 |
| paultag | dholbach: yeah, I think that was test-stress about finals coming through | 13:16 |
| nigelbabu | paultag: btw, we're having hall of fame rewritten | 13:16 |
| paultag | nigelbabu: I guess :) | 13:16 |
| paultag | well that's good. I'll be happy when a translator gets up there :) | 13:16 |
| paultag | OK, bai all! | 13:16 |
| nigelbabu | bai :) | 13:16 |
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| joey | thanks Daviey ... a row brewing about those 10am rescheds | 13:29 |
| joey | hence me in and out the door next to you | 13:29 |
| czajkowski | oh dear | 13:31 |
| nigelb | joey: the one where the sceduler created something in the past? | 13:31 |
| joey | yeah | 13:31 |
| * nigelb looks | 13:32 | |
| joey | sever timezone suspect but D is looking at it | 13:32 |
| joey | poor guy | 13:32 |
| nigelb | joey: where is he? | 13:33 |
| nigelb | I could probably join in and help | 13:33 |
| joey | plenary near me by the door in purple | 13:34 |
| nigelb | joey: outside the main door? | 13:34 |
| nigelb | (I'm in the plenary) | 13:34 |
| joey | inside mid row | 13:34 |
| * joey is the bald fat guy in purple linaro t | 13:35 | |
| nigelb | hrm, I'm way in the back... | 13:36 |
| jussi | *scary bald* :P :P :P | 13:38 |
| nigelb | heh | 13:38 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: mhall119: jcastro: can we have a chat about multiple agenda items per meeting to create common pads? | 14:12 |
| AlanBell | at the moment there are a number of sessions which are repeats, notably the roundtable items | 14:12 |
| AlanBell | these have been created as multiple meetings, each one existing in a single agenda item | 14:13 |
| AlanBell | as such each one has a unique meeting slug and unique pad | 14:13 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: I already have a bug | 14:14 |
| AlanBell | summit appears to support sheduling one meeting in multiple slots, so you could have a community round table meeting and put it in a slot on every day | 14:14 |
| nigelb | and I will be working on it (after fixing the scheduler) | 14:14 |
| cjohnston | AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887 | 14:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged] | 14:14 |
| AlanBell | that works and was what I was expecting to use | 14:14 |
| joey | any status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779884 | 14:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 779884 in summit "autoscheduler should never schedule sessions at times in the past" [Critical,New] | 14:14 |
| AlanBell | e.g. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/linaro-kernel-o-arm-linus-interface-1/ is sheduled twice today, both meeting times are listed at the top of the page and both link to the same pad | 14:15 |
| cjohnston | nigelb: did you see bug 668542 which is related | 14:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 668542 in summit "Don't reschedule events/days that have already happened" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668542 | 14:16 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: yeah | 14:16 |
| nigelb | joey: I think I know what's wrong | 14:16 |
| nigelb | joey: I'm waiting to find about 20 mins to sit with Daviey and fix it | 14:17 |
| nigelb | joey: I'm hoping to catch him at the coffee break | 14:17 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: we're just trying to decide if we want to risk the wrath of jcastro by doing a production deployment with db migration tonight | 14:17 |
| nigelb | mhall119: no risk, no fun ;) | 14:17 |
| AlanBell | mhall119: I don't think it is a bug | 14:17 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: its more like a wishlist bugh | 14:18 |
| AlanBell | I think it is a "please use the existing functionality to do that" | 14:18 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: ah. | 14:19 |
| nigelb | mhall119: did you change something in the csv output? | 14:19 |
| AlanBell | if you want one session with one pad that repeats then just put it in multiple slots | 14:20 |
| nigelb | mhall119: apparently, the room names now hyave room numbers | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: Ididn't change a thing | 14:27 |
| nigelb | mhall119: something changed in the csv :( | 14:27 |
| nigelb | <tsimpson_> cjohnston|uds: the room names now have a number<space>room-name | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: I think the multi-slot functionality only works for consecutive time slots in the same room | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: the number is in the Room object's title | 14:28 |
| czajkowski | maybe breaking summit during the day when epople are using it may not be wise... | 14:28 |
| cjohnston | czajkowski: it isnt us | 14:28 |
| nigelb | well, generally summit doesn't need our help, like today. | 14:28 |
| czajkowski | cjohnston: you always say that :p | 14:28 |
| cjohnston | it really isnt | 14:28 |
| cjohnston | thats a admin change | 14:28 |
| nigelb | we haven't deployed anything today for sure. | 14:29 |
| nigelb | aha | 14:29 |
| nigelb | we should ask jorge to announce. Guys if you change something in the summit admin, please let the ~summit-hackers know. | 14:29 |
| AlanBell | mhall119: locally it just works | 14:33 |
| AlanBell | and the arm-linus interface one today is scheduled twice in different rooms non-consecutive | 14:34 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: blame jcastro | 14:35 |
| cjohnston | so currently the bots are working | 14:36 |
| cjohnston | tsimpson: | 14:36 |
| cjohnston | 09.33.56 < tsimpson_> for details, my hack is to try and partition on ' - ', and go with the last component | 14:37 |
| tsimpson | the bots are working around the change | 14:37 |
| cjohnston | 09.34.21 < tsimpson_> and a sub-hack for the grand ballroom, as that one doesn't have a number-space-dash-space | 14:37 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: i'd rather no | 14:39 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: more fun to blame cjohnston | 14:40 |
| cjohnston | blah | 14:40 |
| AlanBell | glad the room names were not in the pad URLs | 14:41 |
| tsimpson | which reminds me, the "Name" in the csv isn't exported in the ical, just fyi | 14:43 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: either way, popey's probably happy we're not blaming him | 14:44 |
| nigelb | okay guys | 14:45 |
| cjohnston | I blame popey | 14:45 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: can I break it again for the fix? | 14:45 |
| nigelb | as in, the final fix. | 14:45 |
| nigelb | you can use the name instead of the title | 14:45 |
| Pici | Keep Calm and Blame Popey | 14:46 |
| tsimpson | ok, you can break it now | 14:46 |
| joey | jcastro: ping | 14:46 |
| tsimpson | I've temporarily disabled the script that automatically downloads the schedule | 14:46 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title | 14:47 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: wait, don't approve it yet. This has more problems. We need to talk at the break time. | 14:48 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: or do you want to jump out earlier than that? | 14:48 |
| cjohnston | meet in front of the grand ballroom? | 14:49 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: yup, be there in 2. | 14:49 |
| cjohnston | k | 14:49 |
| tsimpson | studying the csv, Dery is also broken, showing as "4- Dery". Petofi has not number or dash either | 14:51 |
| cjohnston | tsimpson: we are trying to come up with a fix | 14:52 |
| cjohnston | you are going to use the ical only correct | 14:52 |
| tsimpson | cjohnston: yep | 14:53 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: ok, we'll fix the ical to use the name of the session instead of title, that should make your life easier | 14:54 |
| nigelb | mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title/+merge/60381 | 14:55 |
| nigelb | mhall119: could you review and approve | 14:56 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: reviewing | 14:58 |
| nigelb | mhall119: the csv or ical is used by guidebook | 14:58 |
| mhall119 | ical | 14:58 |
| nigelb | oh *&%$&( | 14:59 |
| nigelb | mhall119: ok, don't review :( | 14:59 |
| nigelb | we have other issues to fix now :\ | 14:59 |
| mhall119 | what do the bots use the room name for? | 15:01 |
| Pici | Mapping the to the channel name iirc. | 15:01 |
| czajkowski | ok honestly streaming sucks donkey balls | 15:01 |
| tsimpson | and to generate the audio stream links | 15:01 |
| cjohnston | czajkowski: it prolly has to do with the fact that the internet sucks for us too | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | it was fine for keynotes this morning | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | cut out maybe once | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | but sessions | 15:02 |
| czajkowski | are woeful | 15:02 |
| cjohnston | its more bandwidth | 15:03 |
| czajkowski | all i;m getting is static | 15:04 |
| czajkowski | or interference and noise | 15:04 |
| AlanBell | crackly mess | 15:04 |
| czajkowski | and i;m not just refering to cjohnston talking as noise and static | 15:04 |
| AlanBell | doesn't sound like bandwidth issue | 15:04 |
| AlanBell | mikszath suddenly got better | 15:04 |
| czajkowski | huba is the one i'm listenign to now | 15:05 |
| czajkowski | cuts in and out | 15:05 |
| AlanBell | Daviey: I would love to see the stats from the admin page of the pad server at the end of the day | 15:08 |
| IdleOne | is there a video for the keynote uploaded somewhere? | 15:11 |
| * IdleOne missed it :/ | 15:11 | |
| Technoviking | IdleOne: Popey iploaded one to blip.tv earlier | 15:13 |
| maco | i wish summit had the red line across the schedule like the "day" view on calendars tend to, so you know where on the schedule is "now" | 15:15 |
| czajkowski | i wish sessions started on time | 15:15 |
| jussi | we have been behind the whole day cause of the overtime in the morning | 15:17 |
| jussi | knock on effect | 15:18 |
| czajkowski | no leader in this session i;m in | 15:19 |
| czajkowski | trying to figure out who to lead it | 15:19 |
| popey | IdleOne: http://blip.tv/dashboard/episode/5139650 | 15:23 |
| IdleOne | yes, thank you popey and Technoviking :) | 15:23 |
| cjohnston | tsimpson: we need to talk later... we have a fix that we need to show you so you can fix the bot | 15:28 |
| tsimpson | cjohnston: ok, the bot can work around the current format with a couple of hacks | 15:28 |
| cjohnston | We have made a fix that wont require hacks | 15:29 |
| cjohnston | will work nicely for you and guidebook | 15:29 |
| cjohnston | you will have your own defined term for the bot | 15:29 |
| Daviey | AlanBell: i don't have admin access, you need Spads. | 15:31 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: ahoy, we need your help tomorrow | 15:37 |
| tsimpson | oh? | 15:37 |
| mhall119 | the bot does use the ical, right? | 15:37 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: we've added a new field to the ical, the name of the room, that should help you | 15:37 |
| mhall119 | not the csv? | 15:37 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: will be deployed tonight | 15:37 |
| AlanBell | ok, thanks Daviey | 15:38 |
| tsimpson | mhall119: yeah, it only used the csv because there wasn't an ical | 15:38 |
| mhall119 | but it's ical now? | 15:38 |
| tsimpson | yeah | 15:38 |
| mhall119 | ok | 15:38 |
| tsimpson | we used to get the csv and convert it to ical, so the pre-made ical makes it easier :) | 15:39 |
| mhall119 | the new ical will have a new field with lower-case room name without the number | 15:39 |
| tsimpson | as long as it's somewhere, it should be easy enough to grab | 15:39 |
| IdleOne | omg just when it started getting good it stopped | 15:41 |
| * IdleOne wants more keynote | 15:41 | |
| cjohnston | jcastro: you around? | 16:26 |
| cjohnston | or anyone know where he is | 16:26 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: scheduling alteration please, community accessibility session tomorrow at 16:15 in Jozsef 12 clashes with Qt and KDE accessibility in Kazinczy 11 apparently the Qt/KDE one has been manually set, load of required people in both, not sure why they are not avoiding each other | 17:42 |
| cjohnston | james_w: you busy? | 17:46 |
| cjohnston | anyone know where Daviey is? | 17:48 |
| vish | jcastro: hey.. can you bump the Growing community Unity contributions session to like after the GTK3/GNOME3 session? right now both are at the same time and the slot is available after the GTK3 session.. | 17:50 |
| vish | would be a 1hr bump.. | 17:50 |
| cjohnston | jcastro is offline | 17:50 |
| vish | hmm.. | 17:50 |
| AlanBell | fwiw the brief interruption to the etherpad at 16:15 or so was down to human error, not load or anything like that | 17:53 |
| cjohnston | what did you do? | 17:53 |
| AlanBell | wasn't me :) | 17:54 |
| cjohnston | I doubt that | 17:54 |
| AlanBell | spads tried to do something with setting up a virtualhost entry or something | 17:54 |
| cjohnston | gotcha | 17:54 |
| AlanBell | he didn't realise that it isn't as stateless as a normal webserver | 17:54 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: heh | 17:59 |
| nigelb | but etherpad has been rocking today | 17:59 |
| nigelb | like everyone seems to like it | 17:59 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I am really pleased with it | 18:05 |
| AlanBell | so glad it got fixed with a full half hour to go before the keynote! | 18:06 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: heh | 18:08 |
| AlanBell | thinking of adding a pad history link to url in the form http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements/latest to the list of links below the pad | 18:14 |
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| tsimpson | http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ should be updated to point to #ubuntu-uds-kazinczy rather than #ubuntu-uds-kazincy | 19:18 |
| tsimpson | jcastro ^ I think that's you | 19:18 |
| tsimpson | and where ever else rooms/channels are referred to | 19:19 |
| Pici | Did you setup a forward anyway? | 19:19 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: I am going to fix that bug so you can have common pads, it can also be used to link to a read only version of the pad to stop the trolls from having fun | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | someone must have linked to a pad page from OMG ubuntu or something | 19:31 |
| tsimpson | Pici: yeah, the ical feed changed to "Kazinczy" anyway | 19:31 |
| AlanBell | need some thoughts on how to trollproof summit and the pads a bit | 19:56 |
| popey | they were trolled? | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | yup | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | at least one was | 19:58 |
| Pici | Ubuntu SSO/openid integration? | 19:58 |
| popey | one specific pad or lots? | 19:58 |
| popey | i saw one had been a bit, which one? | 19:58 |
| popey | wasnt sure if the one I saw was trolled or just messed up by errant keypresses | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ from rev.5403 onwards (server is down right now) | 19:59 |
| AlanBell | Pici: yeah, would be great, but not by tomorrow am I think | 19:59 |
| Pici | AlanBell: Yeah :/ | 20:00 |
| AlanBell | so I can link to a specific revision like this http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.10 | 20:00 |
| AlanBell | so after a session someone with admin access could set the pad url field (which I will add to the schema) to the correct read only version to basically lock it in the summit interface | 20:02 |
| AlanBell | the trolls could carry on trolling but nobody would care | 20:02 |
| AlanBell | however that depends on someone with admin access deciding which revision to lock it at | 20:03 |
| popey | hmm, wonder where they came from | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | indeed | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | it is really going to need openID integration and a link to a launchpad group :( | 20:55 |
| nigelb | what is? | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: hi | 20:57 |
| AlanBell | the pad was being vandalised | 20:57 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: vandalised? | 20:58 |
| AlanBell | need to put some fixes through to try to take their toys away a bit | 20:58 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: meaning taken over for stuff other than uds | 20:58 |
| AlanBell | yeah, 20 or so trolls piled on a pad and started chatting away and posting porn links and crap and messing up the text | 20:58 |
| nigelb | ugh | 20:59 |
| nigelb | who found that? | 20:59 |
| AlanBell | the fix I have come up with so far is to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887 | 21:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged] | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | it was uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | so what I am thinking nigelb is to fix ^^ which gives us a URL that can override what is in the iframe | 21:02 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: that's landed about 2 seconds ago | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | and that url can be a link to a read only or specific version of the pad | 21:02 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: mhall119 and I are in the processing of deploying it :) | 21:02 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 21:02 |
| nigelb | o/ | 21:03 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: so we end up with something like http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.13 in the iframe | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | you can still scroll forward and spammers can still mess about, but the summit page will end up linking to a good version | 21:05 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: I like. | 21:05 |
| AlanBell | I can't think of a better short term solution | 21:06 |
| nigelb | Neither can I | 21:06 |
| nigelb | I do not want to muck up with java code *during* UDS on a live system | 21:07 |
| AlanBell | me neither | 21:07 |
| mhall119 | because mucking up with python *during* UDS on a live system is just soo much more fun | 21:07 |
| AlanBell | although I do have a separate system to muck about on | 21:07 |
| nigelb | well, yes | 21:07 |
| nigelb | Python is actually nice | 21:07 |
| nigelb | as opposed to java | 21:07 |
| nigelb | and we have people who know inside out of it | 21:07 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: aye never seen a system so muched about during it | 21:11 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: ping | 21:12 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: I know, it's fun isn't it? | 21:12 |
| mhall119 | so far it's been jcastro's mundane changes to the data that have been the source of problems | 21:13 |
| AlanBell | hi czajkowski | 21:14 |
| AlanBell | yeah, saw that chaos mhall119! | 21:15 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: ok, pulled and migrated locally, you messed up something I was about to do :) | 21:15 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: seen pm | 21:16 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: I messed up? | 21:16 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: at this point, I'm running on pure determination, so I could have. | 21:16 |
| AlanBell | no you didn't mess up | 21:16 |
| nigelb | yet... | 21:17 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: 's also been drinking, so we can blame it on the alcohol | 21:17 |
| nigelb | 3 glasses of wine != drinking | 21:18 |
| AlanBell | <li><a href="{{ ETHERPAD_HOST }}ep/pad/view/{{ summit.name }}-{{ track.slug }}/rev.0" target="_new">Time Slider</a></li> | 21:19 |
| AlanBell | ^^ I was going to add that to the list of links | 21:19 |
| mhall119 | you injested a liquid, that's what drinking means | 21:19 |
| AlanBell | but that doesn't quite work with the meeting.link_to_pad thing (which is itself a good idea) | 21:19 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: maybe we can save that for tomorrow night's deployment ;) | 21:20 |
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| AlanBell | mhall119: yup, lets do that :) | 21:20 |
| mhall119 | I'd say we've driven jcastro to drinking, but I'm pretty sure he was going to do that anyway | 21:20 |
| cjohnston | lol | 21:20 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: you're missing the wild drunken deployment party | 21:21 |
| cjohnston | nice | 21:25 |
| AlanBell | ok, so is that landed now? | 21:38 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: landed a while back, we're waiting to take a db backup before doing a migration | 21:38 |
| AlanBell | could you put http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/rev.5403 in the appropriate session pad url please | 21:39 |
| paultag | if i've learned anything in my years working at the head of a project it's that when drunk, take away your own upload rights :) | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | oh fair enough, after the migration then | 21:39 |
| paultag | at least until you've hit ballmer peak | 21:39 |
| AlanBell | paultag: you know it was a heavy night when you wake up next to some code you don't recognise | 21:40 |
| nigelb | we broke summit \o/ | 21:40 |
| paultag | AlanBell: oh jeez, I had a nasty case of that last semester | 21:40 |
| nigelb | oh, false alam | 21:41 |
| nigelb | it works | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | yup, works for me | 21:41 |
| paultag | AlanBell: I was checking in code to a school project, near-blackout. I was reviewing code later on and started to swear about how bad this function was, used git-blame and found out it was my own code :) | 21:41 |
| cjohnston | 503 | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: yeah that is fine | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | the haproxy is pointing at nowhere | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | the pad server is up, but not exposed at the moment | 21:41 |
| cjohnston | why | 21:42 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: ping | 21:42 |
| mhall119 | summit.ubuntu.com update is live | 21:43 |
| AlanBell | because it was being attacked | 21:43 |
| mhall119 | anyone who can get to the admin can force the pad URL | 21:43 |
| tsimpson | nigelb: pong | 21:43 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: I think we have the deployment done | 21:43 |
| cjohnston | attacked? | 21:43 |
| nigelb | so you can take a different parameter from the ical | 21:43 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-loco-portal/ will (once the pad server is back) point to the same pad as today's session | 21:43 |
| AlanBell | cjohnston: about 20 people piled on to a pad and messed about with it | 21:44 |
| tsimpson | nigelb: I see X-ROOMNAME :) | 21:44 |
| mhall119 | tsimpson: that's the one | 21:44 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: yup, that's all yours | 21:44 |
| nigelb | tsimpson: if that breaks, let us know and we'll break jcastro's bones ;) | 21:44 |
| tsimpson | noted :) | 21:45 |
| AlanBell | can you put http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/rev.5403 in http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ please | 21:45 |
| AlanBell | mhall119: ^^ | 21:45 |
| AlanBell | perfect :) | 21:46 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: done | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | thanks | 21:47 |
| * mhall119 's internet is slow | 21:47 | |
| mhall119 | happy to | 21:47 |
| mhall119 | any eta on when the pad server will be available again? | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | very soon | 21:47 |
| mhall119 | good, I'd like to check that the urls work properly before calling it a night | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | view-source looks right | 21:48 |
| mhall119 | yeah, but nothing satisfies like actually seeing it working | 21:49 |
| nigelb | I think the hack we did for great-cd-debate is going to be bad, because the theme wont be nano | 21:49 |
| AlanBell | it never was nano | 21:50 |
| AlanBell | I hacked default | 21:50 |
| AlanBell | it won't be perfect, but it will be OK | 21:50 |
| nigelb | oh | 21:51 |
| AlanBell | s/hacked/did it all in css/ | 21:51 |
| nigelb | I'd like to actually create a theme and submit upstream | 21:51 |
| nigelb | let me get back home | 21:51 |
| AlanBell | nigelb: http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/etherpadforuds | 21:51 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: where are you guys now? | 21:53 |
| cjohnston | room | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ | 21:54 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: early to bed tonight? | 21:55 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: dude that rocks! | 21:56 |
| mhall119 | sometime before next week I'll make a script to convert all the pad urls's to the replay link | 21:57 |
| cjohnston | ya | 21:57 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-loco-portal/ | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | mhall119: non trivial to work out what revision to use | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | there is /rev.0 and /latest | 21:58 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: we can't just say "the last one" | 21:58 |
| mhall119 | ? | 21:58 |
| mhall119 | :( | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | but no /lastpointbeforespammers | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | the save button puts a star in the timeline | 21:58 |
| AlanBell | so if people hit save at the end of the session that gives us something to aim for | 21:59 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: were they all spammed? | 21:59 |
| AlanBell | just that one I think | 21:59 |
| mhall119 | so, still would be handy to auto-convert them all, and just manually edit the one | 21:59 |
| AlanBell | drag the timebar right to see what they did | 21:59 |
| maco | AlanBell: timebar? | 22:04 |
| maco | i dont see anything draggable | 22:05 |
| AlanBell | on this : http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ | 22:05 |
| AlanBell | hmm, timeout :( | 22:07 |
| AlanBell | works now, maco do you see the blue bar at the top with a pointer above it? | 22:07 |
| AlanBell | that is draggable, or you can hit play | 22:08 |
| maco | oh hey that one has a blue bar | 22:10 |
| maco | the community-o-loco-portal one doesnt | 22:10 |
| maco | why do only some? | 22:10 |
| AlanBell | they all do really | 22:11 |
| AlanBell | we just locked that one to a pre-spam revision | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | the time slider URL looks like this: http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/latest | 22:12 |
| AlanBell | so make a url like that and see the revision history of any session | 22:13 |
| AlanBell | "uds-o-"+{{meeting slug}} | 22:13 |
| maco | :( no more CDs? | 22:14 |
| maco | well i guess it's good that the power supplies failed on both dad's computers a few months ago since there's no DVD drives in them and they're probably far too old to boot from USB (hell, my 2.5 year old computer won't boot USB) | 22:15 |
| AlanBell | popey: that is where they came from http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/the-size-of-the-ubuntu-11-10-disc-gets-debated | 23:16 |
| paultag | maco: :'( | 23:17 |
| AlanBell | even though no link in the article it must have been discussed in their IRC channel or something | 23:17 |
| paultag | I always liked shippit for ubuntu members :) | 23:17 |
| paultag | but meh, I guess it's whatevs. | 23:17 |
| AlanBell | loco teams still get them | 23:17 |
| paultag | AlanBell: yeah, they can | 23:17 |
| AlanBell | I think we will do a loco shipit or something when we get the CDs | 23:18 |
| paultag | that's really not a bad idea | 23:19 |
| AlanBell | send a stamped self-addressed CD case to . . . | 23:19 |
| AlanBell | if anyone is on dialup and determined then they will do that | 23:19 |
| paultag | AlanBell: cost of post and envs. is not that much. Our loco actually has some change lying around | 23:20 |
| AlanBell | yeah, but I want to put people off :) | 23:20 |
| paultag | true :) | 23:20 |
| AlanBell | otherwise people will just ask for them to get the nice CD, if they have to pay a couple of quid postage (clearly fair, clearly not involving money changing hands) then they will only do it if they have an actual need for them | 23:22 |
| paultag | aye | 23:22 |
| paultag | only downside is it takes 1RTT rather then 0.5RTT | 23:22 |
| paultag | which can be a while :) | 23:23 |
| AlanBell | a day each way, not a big deal | 23:23 |
| AlanBell | faster than shipit :) | 23:23 |
| paultag | takes a bit more here, it's like 3 days each way | 23:23 |
| paultag | I guess i've never tried within ohio, that's inter-state | 23:24 |
| paultag | nevermind, I'm sure it won't take 3 days | 23:24 |
| paultag | AlanBell: and true :) | 23:24 |
| AlanBell | first class post is overnight to anywhere in the UK | 23:24 |
| paultag | aye | 23:25 |
| AlanBell | mhall119: do you have scrollback in #omg!ubuntu! ? curious to see if summit was mentioned there | 23:28 |
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