[06:40] <AlanBell> cjohnston: did the pad-for-plenaries merge get landed, not seeing what I expected on roundtables and other things
[06:40] <nigelb> AlanBell: your merge requested yesterday was landed, but I'm not sure it was deployed yet
[06:41] <cjohnston> afaik it was supposed to
[06:41] <AlanBell> nigelb: not mine
[06:41] <nigelb> AlanBell: oh, there was another merge?
[06:41] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/pad-for-plenaries/+merge/60310
[06:41] <cjohnston> james_w`: Daviey ping
[06:42] <AlanBell> and I see a private meeting with notes!
[06:42] <cjohnston> uggh
[06:42] <cjohnston> so the code is broke
[06:42] <AlanBell> 10:00 Erkel
[06:43] <cjohnston> mhall119: ping
[06:45] <cjohnston> AlanBell: that meeting seems to not be marked private
[06:45] <cjohnston> jcastro is changing it now
[06:45] <AlanBell> ok
[06:46] <AlanBell> are the plenaries and round tables marked private?
[06:46] <cjohnston> but your correct that the roundtables and such still dont have it
[06:46] <cjohnston> i dont know
[06:46] <AlanBell> the merge looks good to me!
[06:47] <cjohnston> I don't know then
[06:47] <AlanBell> two of the four monday plenaries have notes
[06:48] <cjohnston> the roundtables dont have them
[06:52] <cjohnston> AlanBell: have you tested the code locally to see if it works locally
[06:53] <AlanBell> doing that now
[06:55] <AlanBell> in render.py at the top of meeting_div it does some stuff with _cached_html
[06:55] <cjohnston> ya
[06:55] <cjohnston> I saw that the other day
[06:56] <AlanBell> reading render.py I can't see anything else that might prevent it from working
[06:58] <czajkowski> morning
[06:58] <cjohnston> o/
[06:58] <AlanBell> the code works locally
[06:59] <AlanBell> as far as I can tell, I created a meeting, called it round table, put it in the round table track, didn't include wiki or blueprint and it got the icon
[07:00] <AlanBell> dunno if there is a way to clear the cache without a summit restart and I am not sure if the changes were landed without a restart
[07:05] <AlanBell> looks like landing the changes should have caused a restart anyway
[07:25] <AlanBell> spads has sorted it all out \o/
[07:26] <AlanBell> well the etherpad theme that is
[07:26] <AlanBell> not the round table links
[07:27] <james_w`> hi cjohnston
[07:48] <cjohnston> james_w`: we are having an issue with the etherpad links still.. are you in the grand ballroom?
[07:49] <nigelb> oh brilliant
[07:49] <nigelb> another summit deployment \o/
[07:49] <cjohnston> shush
[07:58] <AlanBell> icecast is up
[08:05] <czajkowski> paultag: oi cranky
[08:06] <mhall119> nigelbabu: +1
[08:06] <nigelbabu> mhall119: :)
[08:07] <nigelbabu> mhall119: where are you?
[08:07] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: right next to me
[08:07] <nigelbabu> cjohnston: where are you both?
[08:07] <mhall119> nigelbabu: right side, 3rd row, between cjohnston and pleia2
[08:07] <nigelbabu> mhall119: aha. I'm sitting behind hypatia
[08:07] <mhall119> AlanBell: does the pad server make periodic backups of the pad contents?
[08:08] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: summit is all better
[08:08] <mhall119> nigelbabu: where's hypatia?
[08:08] <AlanBell> it constantly saves mhall119
[08:08] <nigelbabu> mhall119: look for pink hair ;)
[08:08] <mhall119> AlanBell: cool
[08:08] <pleia2> she has bright pink hair :)
[08:08] <pleia2> ah
[08:08] <nigelbabu> mhall119: 4th row, left side
[08:08] <mhall119> nigelbabu died his hair?
[08:08] <nigelbabu> mhall119: *her*
[08:08] <mhall119> :P
[08:08] <mhall119> I'm slow typing today
[08:09] <AlanBell> did akgraner get orange/aubergine hair?
[08:10] <pleia2> alas, no
[08:12] <nigelbabu> sad
[08:14] <dholbach> jcastro, around?
[08:18] <dholbach> can somebody get jcastro's attention and point him to IRC? :)
[08:18] <mhall119> I haven't seen jcastro all morning
[08:19] <dholbach> he's in row 2 on the left side of the room
[08:19] <dholbach> aisle seat :)
[08:19] <mhall119> got his attention
[08:20]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[08:20] <mhall119> but he's still playing on chrome
[08:20] <dholbach> bah :)
[08:21] <jcastro> dholbach: yo
[08:21] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[08:21] <dholbach> jcastro, I PMed you
[08:26] <nigelbabu> jcastro: lol, i was logged into summit as jorge :p
[08:26] <nigelbabu> just loggec out ;)
[08:28] <mhall119> nigelbabu: don't break anything!
[08:28] <nigelbabu> mhall119: i was afraid of death at jcastro's hands.  Logged out :p
[09:04] <czajkowski> streaming keeps cutting in and out
[09:13] <mhall119> czajkowski: probably a network problem on this end
[09:14] <czajkowski> :(
[09:19]  * popey points czajkowski at #ubuntu-uds
[09:44] <dholbach> Daviey,
[09:44] <dholbach> Daviey, where are you hanging out right now?
[09:45] <dholbach> Daviey, I need your help
[09:49] <Daviey> o/
[09:50] <Daviey> dholbach: I can find you.
[09:50] <Daviey> Where are you?
[09:50] <dholbach> Daviey, behind you
[09:50] <Daviey> ass hole.
[09:59] <mhall119> lol
[09:59] <nigelb> mhall119: why?
[10:05] <daker> when UDS will start ?
[10:07] <popey> daker: its on now
[10:07] <daker> popey, thanks
[10:11] <jcastro> cjohnston: ping
[10:11] <jcastro> ok talked to marianna
[10:11] <jcastro> we can keep the room today
[10:11] <jcastro> but we need to delete it for tomorrow
[10:11] <jcastro> and reschedule the sessions in that room to just the general pool
[10:14] <jcastro> cjohnston: ok I will delete it tonight
[10:14] <popey> grrr
[10:14] <popey> audio keeps dropping
[10:15] <czajkowski> popey: which session you listening to now
[10:15] <popey> http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/kond.ogg.m3u
[10:15] <popey> i get 5 seconds then it stops
[10:15] <cjohnston> ok..
[10:16] <popey> makes remote participation incredibly frustrating
[10:17] <czajkowski> or people talkign at the back of the room
[10:17] <czajkowski> like who ever is talking now
[10:20] <popey> grrr
[10:21]  * czajkowski hands popey a rice krispey
[10:22] <popey> my clutch broke on the car this morning :(
[10:22] <popey> I'm more annoyed that I can't participate in UDS than the fact that my car is now scrap
[10:23] <czajkowski> popey: :(
[10:23] <czajkowski> tis frustrating
[10:23] <czajkowski> lying here one machine job hunbting and the other trying my best to listen in
[10:23] <czajkowski> 2nd session in a row
[10:33] <popey> czajkowski: is the audio fine for you?
[10:33] <czajkowski> nope
[10:33] <czajkowski> same for folks in-uds
[10:33] <czajkowski> making a tea and giving up for this session
[10:33] <czajkowski> making me too mad to try adn take part adn cant
[10:35] <popey> this is why I gave up on the last UDS, it was just impossible to actually take part at all
[10:35] <czajkowski> :(
[10:36] <czajkowski> tis a bit of a kicker tbh
[10:39] <Pendulum> that's really sad since in Dallas it was good
[10:39] <Pendulum> (I'm on 3G modem so not even really going to try until I'm home Thursday)
[11:04] <huats> hello everyone
[11:14] <joey> cjohnston, Daviey, mhall119, nigelb - https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779833
[11:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 779833 in summit "summit cache shows old room in track view when session is moved by hand" [Undecided,New]
[11:15] <joey> nigelb: thanks for fixing the hide tracks not for me...think that was you
[11:15] <nigelb> joey: yeah, that was mhall119 :-)
[11:15] <cjohnston> joey: the cache needs to be cleared out would be my guess
[11:16] <joey> ah well then, thanks mhall119!
[11:16] <joey> cjohnston: yeah Daviey did it for me a few moments ago
[11:16] <cjohnston> ok
[11:50] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:59] <czajkowski> sigh
[13:15] <paultag> dholbach: moin. Sorry if my post was a bit terse and inciteful, it really was ment to be productive (but I wrote it the night before a final, writing an essay)
[13:15] <dholbach> paultag, I'm just glad you're not super frustrated
[13:15] <paultag> speaking of, I need to run to a final now
[13:15] <paultag> dholbach: no, not at all
[13:15] <dholbach> rock on
[13:16] <paultag> dholbach: I said "bit" in the title :)
[13:16] <dholbach> well, the rest ....
[13:16] <nigelbabu> so we should get you more frustrated?
[13:16] <dholbach> nevermind - good luck with your finals
[13:16] <paultag> dholbach: yeah, I think that was test-stress about finals coming through
[13:16] <nigelbabu> paultag: btw, we're having hall of fame rewritten
[13:16] <paultag> nigelbabu: I guess :)
[13:16] <paultag> well that's good. I'll be happy when a translator gets up there :)
[13:16] <paultag> OK, bai all!
[13:16] <nigelbabu> bai :)
[13:29] <joey> thanks Daviey ... a row brewing about those 10am rescheds
[13:29] <joey> hence me in and out the door next to you
[13:31] <czajkowski> oh dear
[13:31] <nigelb> joey: the one where the sceduler created something in the past?
[13:31] <joey> yeah
[13:32]  * nigelb looks
[13:32] <joey> sever timezone suspect but D is looking at it
[13:32] <joey> poor guy
[13:33] <nigelb> joey: where is he?
[13:33] <nigelb> I could probably join in and help
[13:34] <joey> plenary near me by the door in purple
[13:34] <nigelb> joey: outside the main door?
[13:34] <nigelb> (I'm in the plenary)
[13:34] <joey> inside mid row
[13:35]  * joey is the bald fat guy in purple linaro t
[13:36] <nigelb> hrm, I'm way in the back...
[13:38] <jussi> *scary bald* :P :P :P
[13:38] <nigelb> heh
[14:12] <AlanBell> cjohnston: mhall119: jcastro: can we have a chat about multiple agenda items per meeting to create common pads?
[14:12] <AlanBell> at the moment there are a number of sessions which are repeats, notably the roundtable items
[14:13] <AlanBell> these have been created as multiple meetings, each one existing in a single agenda item
[14:13] <AlanBell> as such each one has a unique meeting slug and unique pad
[14:14] <nigelb> AlanBell: I already have a bug
[14:14] <AlanBell> summit appears to support sheduling one meeting in multiple slots, so you could have a community round table meeting and put it in a slot on every day
[14:14] <nigelb> and I will be working on it (after fixing the scheduler)
[14:14] <cjohnston> AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887
[14:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged]
[14:14] <AlanBell> that works and was what I was expecting to use
[14:14] <joey> any status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779884
[14:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 779884 in summit "autoscheduler should never schedule sessions at times in the past" [Critical,New]
[14:15] <AlanBell> e.g. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/linaro-kernel-o-arm-linus-interface-1/ is sheduled twice today, both meeting times are listed at the top of the page and both link to the same pad
[14:16] <cjohnston> nigelb: did you see bug 668542 which is related
[14:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 668542 in summit "Don't reschedule events/days that have already happened" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668542
[14:16] <nigelb> cjohnston: yeah
[14:16] <nigelb> joey: I think I know what's wrong
[14:17] <nigelb> joey: I'm waiting to find about 20 mins to sit with Daviey and fix it
[14:17] <nigelb> joey: I'm hoping to catch him at the coffee break
[14:17] <mhall119> AlanBell: we're just trying to decide if we want to risk the wrath of jcastro by doing a production deployment with db migration tonight
[14:17] <nigelb> mhall119: no risk, no fun ;)
[14:17] <AlanBell> mhall119: I don't think it is a bug
[14:18] <nigelb> AlanBell: its more like a wishlist bugh
[14:18] <AlanBell> I think it is a "please use the existing functionality to do that"
[14:19] <nigelb> AlanBell: ah.
[14:19] <nigelb> mhall119: did you change something in the csv output?
[14:20] <AlanBell> if you want one session with one pad that repeats then just put it in multiple slots
[14:20] <nigelb> mhall119: apparently, the room names now hyave room numbers
[14:27] <mhall119> nigelb: Ididn't change a thing
[14:27] <nigelb> mhall119: something changed in the csv :(
 cjohnston|uds: the room names now have a number<space>room-name
[14:27] <mhall119> AlanBell: I think the multi-slot functionality only works for consecutive time slots in the same room
[14:28] <mhall119> nigelb: the number is in the Room object's title
[14:28] <czajkowski> maybe breaking summit during the day when epople are using it may not be wise...
[14:28] <cjohnston> czajkowski: it isnt us
[14:28] <nigelb> well, generally summit doesn't need our help, like today.
[14:28] <czajkowski> cjohnston: you always say that :p
[14:28] <cjohnston> it really isnt
[14:28] <cjohnston> thats a admin change
[14:29] <nigelb> we haven't deployed anything today for sure.
[14:29] <nigelb> aha
[14:29] <nigelb> we should ask jorge to announce.  Guys if you change something in the summit admin, please let the ~summit-hackers know.
[14:33] <AlanBell> mhall119: locally it just works
[14:34] <AlanBell> and the arm-linus interface one today is scheduled twice in different rooms non-consecutive
[14:35] <mhall119> czajkowski: blame jcastro
[14:36] <cjohnston> so currently the bots are working
[14:36] <cjohnston> tsimpson:
[14:37] <cjohnston> 09.33.56 < tsimpson_> for details, my hack is to try and partition on ' - ', and go with the last component
[14:37] <tsimpson> the bots are working around the change
[14:37] <cjohnston> 09.34.21 < tsimpson_> and a sub-hack for the grand ballroom, as that one doesn't have a number-space-dash-space
[14:39] <czajkowski> mhall119: i'd rather no
[14:40] <czajkowski> mhall119: more fun to blame cjohnston
[14:40] <cjohnston> blah
[14:41] <AlanBell> glad the room names were not in the pad URLs
[14:43] <tsimpson> which reminds me, the "Name" in the csv isn't exported in the ical, just fyi
[14:44] <mhall119> czajkowski: either way, popey's probably happy we're not blaming him
[14:45] <nigelb> okay guys
[14:45] <cjohnston> I blame popey
[14:45] <nigelb> tsimpson: can I break it again for the fix?
[14:45] <nigelb> as in, the final fix.
[14:45] <nigelb> you can use the name instead of the title
[14:46] <Pici> Keep Calm and Blame Popey
[14:46] <tsimpson> ok, you can break it now
[14:46] <joey> jcastro: ping
[14:46] <tsimpson> I've temporarily disabled the script that automatically downloads the schedule
[14:47] <nigelb> cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title
[14:48] <nigelb> cjohnston: wait, don't approve it yet.  This has more problems. We need to talk at the break time.
[14:48] <nigelb> cjohnston: or do you want to jump out earlier than that?
[14:49] <cjohnston> meet in front of the grand ballroom?
[14:49] <nigelb> cjohnston: yup, be there in 2.
[14:49] <cjohnston> k
[14:51] <tsimpson> studying the csv, Dery is also broken, showing as "4- Dery". Petofi has not number or dash either
[14:52] <cjohnston> tsimpson: we are trying to come up with a fix
[14:52] <cjohnston> you are going to use the ical only correct
[14:53] <tsimpson> cjohnston: yep
[14:54] <nigelb> tsimpson: ok, we'll fix the ical to use the name of the session instead of title, that should make your life easier
[14:55] <nigelb> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title/+merge/60381
[14:56] <nigelb> mhall119: could you review and approve
[14:58] <mhall119> nigelb: reviewing
[14:58] <nigelb> mhall119: the csv or ical is used by guidebook
[14:58] <mhall119> ical
[14:59] <nigelb> oh *&%$&(
[14:59] <nigelb> mhall119: ok, don't review :(
[14:59] <nigelb> we have other issues to fix now :\
[15:01] <mhall119> what do the bots use the room name for?
[15:01] <Pici> Mapping the to the channel name iirc.
[15:01] <czajkowski> ok honestly streaming sucks donkey balls
[15:01] <tsimpson> and to generate the audio stream links
[15:02] <cjohnston> czajkowski: it prolly has to do with the fact that the internet sucks for us too
[15:02] <czajkowski> it was fine for keynotes this morning
[15:02] <czajkowski> cut out maybe once
[15:02] <czajkowski> but sessions
[15:02] <czajkowski> are woeful
[15:03] <cjohnston> its more bandwidth
[15:04] <czajkowski> all i;m getting is static
[15:04] <czajkowski> or interference and noise
[15:04] <AlanBell> crackly mess
[15:04] <czajkowski> and i;m not just refering to cjohnston talking as noise and static
[15:04] <AlanBell> doesn't sound like bandwidth issue
[15:04] <AlanBell> mikszath suddenly got better
[15:05] <czajkowski> huba is the one i'm listenign to now
[15:05] <czajkowski> cuts in and out
[15:08] <AlanBell> Daviey: I would love to see the stats from the admin page of the pad server at the end of the day
[15:11] <IdleOne> is there a video for the keynote uploaded somewhere?
[15:11]  * IdleOne missed it :/
[15:13] <Technoviking> IdleOne: Popey iploaded one to blip.tv earlier
[15:15] <maco> i wish summit had the red line across the schedule like the "day" view on calendars tend to, so you know where on the schedule is "now"
[15:15] <czajkowski> i wish sessions started on time
[15:17] <jussi> we have been behind the whole day cause of the overtime in the morning
[15:18] <jussi> knock on effect
[15:19] <czajkowski> no leader in this session i;m in
[15:19] <czajkowski> trying to figure out who to lead it
[15:23] <popey> IdleOne: http://blip.tv/dashboard/episode/5139650
[15:23] <IdleOne> yes, thank you popey and Technoviking  :)
[15:28] <cjohnston> tsimpson: we need to talk later... we have a fix that we need to show you so you can fix the bot
[15:28] <tsimpson> cjohnston: ok, the bot can work around the current format with a couple of hacks
[15:29] <cjohnston> We have made a fix that wont require hacks
[15:29] <cjohnston> will work nicely for you and guidebook
[15:29] <cjohnston> you will have your own defined term for the bot
[15:31] <Daviey> AlanBell: i don't have admin access, you need Spads.
[15:37] <nigelb> tsimpson: ahoy, we need your help tomorrow
[15:37] <tsimpson> oh?
[15:37] <mhall119> the bot does use the ical, right?
[15:37] <nigelb> tsimpson: we've added a new field to the ical, the name of the room, that should help you
[15:37] <mhall119> not the csv?
[15:37] <nigelb> tsimpson: will be deployed tonight
[15:38] <AlanBell> ok, thanks Daviey
[15:38] <tsimpson> mhall119: yeah, it only used the csv because there wasn't an ical
[15:38] <mhall119> but it's ical now?
[15:38] <tsimpson> yeah
[15:38] <mhall119> ok
[15:39] <tsimpson> we used to get the csv and convert it to ical, so the pre-made ical makes it easier :)
[15:39] <mhall119> the new ical will have a new field with lower-case room name without the number
[15:39] <tsimpson> as long as it's somewhere, it should be easy enough to grab
[15:41] <IdleOne> omg just when it started getting good it stopped
[15:41]  * IdleOne wants more keynote
[16:26] <cjohnston> jcastro: you around?
[16:26] <cjohnston> or anyone know where he is
[17:42] <AlanBell> jcastro: scheduling alteration please, community accessibility session tomorrow at 16:15 in Jozsef 12 clashes with Qt and KDE accessibility in Kazinczy 11 apparently the Qt/KDE one has been manually set, load of required people in both, not sure why they are not avoiding each other
[17:46] <cjohnston> james_w: you busy?
[17:48] <cjohnston> anyone know where Daviey is?
[17:50] <vish> jcastro: hey.. can you bump the Growing community Unity contributions session to like after the GTK3/GNOME3 session?  right now both are at the same time and the slot is available after the GTK3 session..
[17:50] <vish> would be a 1hr bump..
[17:50] <cjohnston> jcastro is offline
[17:50] <vish> hmm..
[17:53] <AlanBell> fwiw the brief interruption to the etherpad at 16:15 or so was down to human error, not load or anything like that
[17:53] <cjohnston> what did you do?
[17:54] <AlanBell> wasn't me :)
[17:54] <cjohnston> I doubt that
[17:54] <AlanBell> spads tried to do something with setting up a virtualhost entry or something
[17:54] <cjohnston> gotcha
[17:54] <AlanBell> he didn't realise that it isn't as stateless as a normal webserver
[17:59] <nigelb> AlanBell: heh
[17:59] <nigelb> but etherpad has been rocking today
[17:59] <nigelb> like everyone seems to like it
[18:05] <AlanBell> yeah, I am really pleased with it
[18:06] <AlanBell> so glad it got fixed with a full half hour to go before the keynote!
[18:08] <nigelb> AlanBell: heh
[18:14] <AlanBell> thinking of adding a pad history link to url in the form http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements/latest to the list of links below the pad
[19:18] <tsimpson> http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ should be updated to point to #ubuntu-uds-kazinczy rather than #ubuntu-uds-kazincy
[19:18] <tsimpson> jcastro ^ I think that's you
[19:19] <tsimpson> and where ever else rooms/channels are referred to
[19:19] <Pici> Did you setup a forward anyway?
[19:31] <AlanBell> cjohnston: I am going to fix that bug so you can have common pads, it can also be used to link to a read only version of the pad to stop the trolls from having fun
[19:31] <AlanBell> someone must have linked to a pad page from OMG ubuntu or something
[19:31] <tsimpson> Pici: yeah, the ical feed changed to "Kazinczy" anyway
[19:56] <AlanBell> need some thoughts on how to trollproof summit and the pads a bit
[19:58] <popey> they were trolled?
[19:58] <AlanBell> yup
[19:58] <AlanBell> at least one was
[19:58] <Pici> Ubuntu SSO/openid integration?
[19:58] <popey> one specific pad or lots?
[19:58] <popey> i saw one had been a bit, which one?
[19:58] <popey> wasnt sure if the one I saw was trolled or just messed up by errant keypresses
[19:59] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ from rev.5403 onwards (server is down right now)
[19:59] <AlanBell> Pici: yeah, would be great, but not by tomorrow am I think
[20:00] <Pici> AlanBell: Yeah :/
[20:00] <AlanBell> so I can link to a specific revision like this http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.10
[20:02] <AlanBell> so after a session someone with admin access could set the pad url field (which I will add to the schema) to the correct read only version to basically lock it in the summit interface
[20:02] <AlanBell> the trolls could carry on trolling but nobody would care
[20:03] <AlanBell> however that depends on someone with admin access deciding which revision to lock it at
[20:03] <popey> hmm, wonder where they came from
[20:03] <AlanBell> indeed
[20:55] <AlanBell> it is really going to need openID integration and a link to a launchpad group :(
[20:56] <nigelb> what is?
[20:57] <AlanBell> nigelb: hi
[20:57] <AlanBell> the pad was being vandalised
[20:58] <nigelb> AlanBell: vandalised?
[20:58] <AlanBell> need to put some fixes through to try to take their toys away a bit
[20:58] <nigelb> AlanBell: meaning taken over for stuff other than uds
[20:58] <AlanBell> yeah, 20 or so trolls piled on a pad and started chatting away and posting porn links and crap and messing up the text
[20:59] <nigelb> ugh
[20:59] <nigelb> who found that?
[21:00] <AlanBell> the fix I have come up with so far is to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887
[21:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged]
[21:01] <AlanBell> it was uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements
[21:02] <AlanBell> so what I am thinking nigelb is to fix ^^ which gives us a URL that can override what is in the iframe
[21:02] <nigelb> AlanBell: that's landed about 2 seconds ago
[21:02] <AlanBell> and that url can be a link to a read only or specific version of the pad
[21:02] <nigelb> AlanBell: mhall119 and I are in the processing of deploying it :)
[21:02] <czajkowski> aloha
[21:03] <nigelb> o/
[21:04] <AlanBell> nigelb: so we end up with something like http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.13 in the iframe
[21:05] <AlanBell> you can still scroll forward and spammers can still mess about, but the summit page will end up linking to a good version
[21:05] <nigelb> AlanBell: I like.
[21:06] <AlanBell> I can't think of a better short term solution
[21:06] <nigelb> Neither can I
[21:07] <nigelb> I do not want to muck up with java code *during* UDS on a live system
[21:07] <AlanBell> me neither
[21:07] <mhall119> because mucking up with python *during* UDS on a live system is just soo much more fun
[21:07] <AlanBell> although I do have a separate system to muck about on
[21:07] <nigelb> well, yes
[21:07] <nigelb> Python is actually nice
[21:07] <nigelb> as opposed to java
[21:07] <nigelb> and we have people who know inside out of it
[21:11] <czajkowski> mhall119: aye never seen a system so muched about during it
[21:12] <czajkowski> AlanBell: ping
[21:12] <mhall119> czajkowski: I know, it's fun isn't it?
[21:13] <mhall119> so far it's been jcastro's mundane changes to the data that have been the source of problems
[21:14] <AlanBell> hi czajkowski
[21:15] <AlanBell> yeah, saw that chaos mhall119!
[21:15] <AlanBell> nigelb: ok, pulled and migrated locally, you messed up something I was about to do :)
[21:16] <czajkowski> AlanBell: seen pm
[21:16] <nigelb> AlanBell: I messed up?
[21:16] <nigelb> AlanBell: at this point, I'm running on pure determination, so I could have.
[21:16] <AlanBell> no you didn't mess up
[21:17] <nigelb> yet...
[21:17] <mhall119> nigelb: 's also been drinking, so we can blame it on the alcohol
[21:18] <nigelb> 3 glasses of wine != drinking
[21:19] <AlanBell>             <li><a href="{{ ETHERPAD_HOST }}ep/pad/view/{{ summit.name }}-{{ track.slug }}/rev.0" target="_new">Time Slider</a></li>
[21:19] <AlanBell> ^^ I was going to add that to the list of links
[21:19] <mhall119> you injested a liquid, that's what drinking means
[21:19] <AlanBell> but that doesn't quite work with the meeting.link_to_pad thing (which is itself a good idea)
[21:20] <mhall119> AlanBell: maybe we can save that for tomorrow night's deployment ;)
[21:20] <AlanBell> mhall119: yup, lets do that :)
[21:20] <mhall119> I'd say we've driven jcastro to drinking, but I'm pretty sure he was going to do that anyway
[21:20] <cjohnston> lol
[21:21] <mhall119> cjohnston: you're missing the wild drunken deployment party
[21:25] <cjohnston> nice
[21:38] <AlanBell> ok, so is that landed now?
[21:38] <nigelb> AlanBell: landed a while back, we're waiting to take a db backup before doing a migration
[21:39] <AlanBell> could you put http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/rev.5403 in the appropriate session pad url please
[21:39] <paultag> if i've learned anything in my years working at the head of a project it's that when drunk, take away your own upload rights :)
[21:39] <AlanBell> oh fair enough, after the migration then
[21:39] <paultag> at least until you've hit ballmer peak
[21:40] <AlanBell> paultag: you know it was a heavy night when you wake up next to some code you don't recognise
[21:40] <nigelb> we broke summit \o/
[21:40] <paultag> AlanBell: oh jeez, I had a nasty case of that last semester
[21:41] <nigelb> oh, false alam
[21:41] <nigelb> it works
[21:41] <AlanBell> yup, works for me
[21:41] <paultag> AlanBell: I was checking in code to a school project, near-blackout. I was reviewing code later on and started to swear about how bad this function was, used git-blame and found out it was my own code :)
[21:41] <cjohnston> 503
[21:41] <AlanBell> cjohnston: yeah that is fine
[21:41] <AlanBell> the haproxy is pointing at nowhere
[21:41] <AlanBell> the pad server is up, but not exposed at the moment
[21:42] <cjohnston> why
[21:42] <nigelb> tsimpson: ping
[21:43] <mhall119> summit.ubuntu.com update is live
[21:43] <AlanBell> because it was being attacked
[21:43] <mhall119> anyone who can get to the admin can force the pad URL
[21:43] <tsimpson> nigelb: pong
[21:43] <nigelb> tsimpson: I think we have the deployment done
[21:43] <cjohnston> attacked?
[21:43] <nigelb> so you can take a different parameter from the ical
[21:43] <mhall119> cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-loco-portal/ will (once the pad server is back) point to the same pad as today's session
[21:44] <AlanBell> cjohnston: about 20 people piled on to a pad and messed about with it
[21:44] <tsimpson> nigelb: I see X-ROOMNAME :)
[21:44] <mhall119> tsimpson: that's the one
[21:44] <nigelb> tsimpson: yup, that's all yours
[21:44] <nigelb> tsimpson: if that breaks, let us know and we'll break jcastro's bones ;)
[21:45] <tsimpson> noted :)
[21:45] <AlanBell> can you put http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/rev.5403  in http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ please
[21:45] <AlanBell> mhall119: ^^
[21:46] <AlanBell> perfect :)
[21:47] <mhall119> AlanBell: done
[21:47] <AlanBell> thanks
[21:47]  * mhall119 's internet is slow
[21:47] <mhall119> happy to
[21:47] <mhall119> any eta on when the pad server will be available again?
[21:47] <AlanBell> very soon
[21:48] <mhall119> good, I'd like to check that the urls work properly before calling it a night
[21:48] <AlanBell> view-source looks right
[21:49] <mhall119> yeah, but nothing satisfies like actually seeing it working
[21:49] <nigelb> I think the hack we did for great-cd-debate is going to be bad, because the theme wont be nano
[21:50] <AlanBell> it never was nano
[21:50] <AlanBell> I hacked default
[21:50] <AlanBell> it won't be perfect, but it will be OK
[21:51] <nigelb> oh
[21:51] <AlanBell> s/hacked/did it all in css/
[21:51] <nigelb> I'd like to actually create a theme and submit upstream
[21:51] <nigelb> let me get back home
[21:51] <AlanBell> nigelb: http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/etherpadforuds
[21:53] <mhall119> cjohnston: where are you guys now?
[21:54] <cjohnston> room
[21:54] <AlanBell> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/
[21:55] <mhall119> cjohnston: early to bed tonight?
[21:56] <mhall119> AlanBell: dude that rocks!
[21:57] <mhall119> sometime before next week I'll make a script to convert all the pad urls's to the replay link
[21:57] <cjohnston> ya
[21:58] <mhall119> cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-loco-portal/
[21:58] <AlanBell> mhall119: non trivial to work out what revision to use
[21:58] <AlanBell> there is /rev.0 and /latest
[21:58] <mhall119> AlanBell: we can't just say "the last one"
[21:58] <mhall119> ?
[21:58] <mhall119> :(
[21:58] <AlanBell> but no /lastpointbeforespammers
[21:58] <AlanBell> the save button puts a star in the timeline
[21:59] <AlanBell> so if people hit save at the end of the session that gives us something to aim for
[21:59] <mhall119> AlanBell: were they all spammed?
[21:59] <AlanBell> just that one I think
[21:59] <mhall119> so, still would be handy to auto-convert them all, and just manually edit the one
[21:59] <AlanBell> drag the timebar right to see what they did
[22:04] <maco> AlanBell: timebar?
[22:05] <maco> i dont see anything draggable
[22:05] <AlanBell> on this : http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/foundations-o-great-cd-debate/
[22:07] <AlanBell> hmm, timeout :(
[22:07] <AlanBell> works now, maco do you see the blue bar at the top with a pointer above it?
[22:08] <AlanBell> that is draggable, or you can hit play
[22:10] <maco> oh hey that one has a blue bar
[22:10] <maco> the community-o-loco-portal one doesnt
[22:10] <maco> why do only some?
[22:11] <AlanBell> they all do really
[22:12] <AlanBell> we just locked that one to a  pre-spam revision
[22:12] <AlanBell> the time slider URL looks like this: http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/latest
[22:13] <AlanBell> so make a url like that and see the revision history of any session
[22:13] <AlanBell> "uds-o-"+{{meeting slug}}
[22:14] <maco> :( no more CDs?
[22:15] <maco> well i guess it's good that the power supplies failed on both dad's computers a few months ago since there's no DVD drives in them and they're probably far too old to boot from USB (hell, my 2.5 year old computer won't boot USB)
[23:16] <AlanBell> popey: that is where they came from http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/the-size-of-the-ubuntu-11-10-disc-gets-debated
[23:17] <paultag> maco: :'(
[23:17] <AlanBell> even though no link in the article it must have been discussed in their IRC channel or something
[23:17] <paultag> I always liked shippit for ubuntu members :)
[23:17] <paultag> but meh, I guess it's whatevs.
[23:17] <AlanBell> loco teams still get them
[23:17] <paultag> AlanBell: yeah, they can
[23:18] <AlanBell> I think we will do a loco shipit or something when we get the CDs
[23:19] <paultag> that's really not a bad idea
[23:19] <AlanBell> send a stamped self-addressed CD case to . . .
[23:19] <AlanBell> if anyone is on dialup and determined then they will do that
[23:20] <paultag> AlanBell: cost of post and envs. is not that much. Our loco actually has some change lying around
[23:20] <AlanBell> yeah, but I want to put people off :)
[23:20] <paultag> true :)
[23:22] <AlanBell> otherwise people will just ask for them to get the nice CD, if they have to pay a couple of quid postage (clearly fair, clearly not involving money changing hands) then they will only do it if they have an actual need for them
[23:22] <paultag> aye
[23:22] <paultag> only downside is it takes 1RTT rather then 0.5RTT
[23:23] <paultag> which can be a while :)
[23:23] <AlanBell> a day each way, not a big deal
[23:23] <AlanBell> faster than shipit :)
[23:23] <paultag> takes a bit more here, it's like 3 days each way
[23:24] <paultag> I guess i've never tried within ohio, that's inter-state
[23:24] <paultag> nevermind, I'm sure it won't take 3 days
[23:24] <paultag> AlanBell: and true :)
[23:24] <AlanBell> first class post is overnight to anywhere in the UK
[23:25] <paultag> aye
[23:28] <AlanBell> mhall119: do you have scrollback in #omg!ubuntu! ? curious to see if summit was mentioned there