[06:40] cjohnston: did the pad-for-plenaries merge get landed, not seeing what I expected on roundtables and other things [06:40] AlanBell: your merge requested yesterday was landed, but I'm not sure it was deployed yet [06:41] afaik it was supposed to [06:41] nigelb: not mine [06:41] AlanBell: oh, there was another merge? [06:41] https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/pad-for-plenaries/+merge/60310 [06:41] james_w`: Daviey ping [06:42] and I see a private meeting with notes! [06:42] uggh [06:42] so the code is broke [06:42] 10:00 Erkel [06:43] mhall119: ping [06:45] AlanBell: that meeting seems to not be marked private [06:45] jcastro is changing it now [06:45] ok [06:46] are the plenaries and round tables marked private? [06:46] but your correct that the roundtables and such still dont have it [06:46] i dont know [06:46] the merge looks good to me! [06:47] I don't know then [06:47] two of the four monday plenaries have notes [06:48] the roundtables dont have them [06:52] AlanBell: have you tested the code locally to see if it works locally [06:53] doing that now [06:55] in render.py at the top of meeting_div it does some stuff with _cached_html [06:55] ya [06:55] I saw that the other day [06:56] reading render.py I can't see anything else that might prevent it from working [06:58] morning [06:58] o/ [06:58] the code works locally [06:59] as far as I can tell, I created a meeting, called it round table, put it in the round table track, didn't include wiki or blueprint and it got the icon [07:00] dunno if there is a way to clear the cache without a summit restart and I am not sure if the changes were landed without a restart [07:05] looks like landing the changes should have caused a restart anyway [07:25] spads has sorted it all out \o/ [07:26] well the etherpad theme that is [07:26] not the round table links [07:27] hi cjohnston [07:48] james_w`: we are having an issue with the etherpad links still.. are you in the grand ballroom? [07:49] oh brilliant [07:49] another summit deployment \o/ [07:49] shush [07:58] icecast is up [08:05] paultag: oi cranky [08:06] nigelbabu: +1 [08:06] mhall119: :) [08:07] mhall119: where are you? [08:07] nigelbabu: right next to me [08:07] cjohnston: where are you both? [08:07] nigelbabu: right side, 3rd row, between cjohnston and pleia2 [08:07] mhall119: aha. I'm sitting behind hypatia [08:07] AlanBell: does the pad server make periodic backups of the pad contents? [08:08] nigelbabu: summit is all better [08:08] nigelbabu: where's hypatia? [08:08] it constantly saves mhall119 [08:08] mhall119: look for pink hair ;) [08:08] AlanBell: cool [08:08] she has bright pink hair :) [08:08] ah [08:08] mhall119: 4th row, left side [08:08] nigelbabu died his hair? [08:08] mhall119: *her* [08:08] :P [08:08] I'm slow typing today [08:09] did akgraner get orange/aubergine hair? [08:10] alas, no [08:12] sad [08:14] jcastro, around? [08:18] can somebody get jcastro's attention and point him to IRC? :) [08:18] I haven't seen jcastro all morning [08:19] he's in row 2 on the left side of the room [08:19] aisle seat :) [08:19] got his attention [08:20] * dholbach hugs mhall119 [08:20] but he's still playing on chrome [08:20] bah :) [08:21] dholbach: yo [08:21] hey jcastro [08:21] jcastro, I PMed you [08:26] jcastro: lol, i was logged into summit as jorge :p [08:26] just loggec out ;) [08:28] nigelbabu: don't break anything! [08:28] mhall119: i was afraid of death at jcastro's hands. Logged out :p === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [09:04] streaming keeps cutting in and out === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:13] czajkowski: probably a network problem on this end [09:14] :( [09:19] * popey points czajkowski at #ubuntu-uds [09:44] Daviey, [09:44] Daviey, where are you hanging out right now? [09:45] Daviey, I need your help [09:49] o/ [09:50] dholbach: I can find you. [09:50] Where are you? [09:50] Daviey, behind you [09:50] ass hole. === daker_ is now known as daker [09:59] lol [09:59] mhall119: why? [10:05] when UDS will start ? [10:07] daker: its on now [10:07] popey, thanks [10:11] cjohnston: ping [10:11] ok talked to marianna [10:11] we can keep the room today [10:11] but we need to delete it for tomorrow [10:11] and reschedule the sessions in that room to just the general pool [10:14] cjohnston: ok I will delete it tonight [10:14] grrr [10:14] audio keeps dropping [10:15] popey: which session you listening to now [10:15] http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/kond.ogg.m3u [10:15] i get 5 seconds then it stops [10:15] ok.. [10:16] makes remote participation incredibly frustrating [10:17] or people talkign at the back of the room [10:17] like who ever is talking now [10:20] grrr [10:21] * czajkowski hands popey a rice krispey [10:22] my clutch broke on the car this morning :( [10:22] I'm more annoyed that I can't participate in UDS than the fact that my car is now scrap [10:23] popey: :( [10:23] tis frustrating [10:23] lying here one machine job hunbting and the other trying my best to listen in [10:23] 2nd session in a row [10:33] czajkowski: is the audio fine for you? [10:33] nope [10:33] same for folks in-uds [10:33] making a tea and giving up for this session [10:33] making me too mad to try adn take part adn cant [10:35] this is why I gave up on the last UDS, it was just impossible to actually take part at all [10:35] :( [10:36] tis a bit of a kicker tbh [10:39] that's really sad since in Dallas it was good [10:39] (I'm on 3G modem so not even really going to try until I'm home Thursday) === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:04] hello everyone [11:14] cjohnston, Daviey, mhall119, nigelb - https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779833 [11:14] Launchpad bug 779833 in summit "summit cache shows old room in track view when session is moved by hand" [Undecided,New] [11:15] nigelb: thanks for fixing the hide tracks not for me...think that was you [11:15] joey: yeah, that was mhall119 :-) [11:15] joey: the cache needs to be cleared out would be my guess [11:16] ah well then, thanks mhall119! [11:16] cjohnston: yeah Daviey did it for me a few moments ago [11:16] ok [11:50] morning all [11:59] sigh === nigelb is now known as Guest92541 [13:15] dholbach: moin. Sorry if my post was a bit terse and inciteful, it really was ment to be productive (but I wrote it the night before a final, writing an essay) [13:15] paultag, I'm just glad you're not super frustrated [13:15] speaking of, I need to run to a final now [13:15] dholbach: no, not at all [13:15] rock on [13:16] dholbach: I said "bit" in the title :) [13:16] well, the rest .... [13:16] so we should get you more frustrated? [13:16] nevermind - good luck with your finals [13:16] dholbach: yeah, I think that was test-stress about finals coming through [13:16] paultag: btw, we're having hall of fame rewritten [13:16] nigelbabu: I guess :) [13:16] well that's good. I'll be happy when a translator gets up there :) [13:16] OK, bai all! [13:16] bai :) === nigelbabu is now known as nigelb [13:29] thanks Daviey ... a row brewing about those 10am rescheds [13:29] hence me in and out the door next to you [13:31] oh dear [13:31] joey: the one where the sceduler created something in the past? [13:31] yeah [13:32] * nigelb looks [13:32] sever timezone suspect but D is looking at it [13:32] poor guy [13:33] joey: where is he? [13:33] I could probably join in and help [13:34] plenary near me by the door in purple [13:34] joey: outside the main door? [13:34] (I'm in the plenary) [13:34] inside mid row [13:35] * joey is the bald fat guy in purple linaro t [13:36] hrm, I'm way in the back... [13:38] *scary bald* :P :P :P [13:38] heh [14:12] cjohnston: mhall119: jcastro: can we have a chat about multiple agenda items per meeting to create common pads? [14:12] at the moment there are a number of sessions which are repeats, notably the roundtable items [14:13] these have been created as multiple meetings, each one existing in a single agenda item [14:13] as such each one has a unique meeting slug and unique pad [14:14] AlanBell: I already have a bug [14:14] summit appears to support sheduling one meeting in multiple slots, so you could have a community round table meeting and put it in a slot on every day [14:14] and I will be working on it (after fixing the scheduler) [14:14] AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887 [14:14] Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged] [14:14] that works and was what I was expecting to use [14:14] any status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779884 [14:14] Launchpad bug 779884 in summit "autoscheduler should never schedule sessions at times in the past" [Critical,New] [14:15] e.g. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/linaro-kernel-o-arm-linus-interface-1/ is sheduled twice today, both meeting times are listed at the top of the page and both link to the same pad [14:16] nigelb: did you see bug 668542 which is related [14:16] Launchpad bug 668542 in summit "Don't reschedule events/days that have already happened" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668542 [14:16] cjohnston: yeah [14:16] joey: I think I know what's wrong [14:17] joey: I'm waiting to find about 20 mins to sit with Daviey and fix it [14:17] joey: I'm hoping to catch him at the coffee break [14:17] AlanBell: we're just trying to decide if we want to risk the wrath of jcastro by doing a production deployment with db migration tonight [14:17] mhall119: no risk, no fun ;) [14:17] mhall119: I don't think it is a bug [14:18] AlanBell: its more like a wishlist bugh [14:18] I think it is a "please use the existing functionality to do that" [14:19] AlanBell: ah. [14:19] mhall119: did you change something in the csv output? [14:20] if you want one session with one pad that repeats then just put it in multiple slots [14:20] mhall119: apparently, the room names now hyave room numbers [14:27] nigelb: Ididn't change a thing [14:27] mhall119: something changed in the csv :( [14:27] cjohnston|uds: the room names now have a numberroom-name [14:27] AlanBell: I think the multi-slot functionality only works for consecutive time slots in the same room [14:28] nigelb: the number is in the Room object's title [14:28] maybe breaking summit during the day when epople are using it may not be wise... [14:28] czajkowski: it isnt us [14:28] well, generally summit doesn't need our help, like today. [14:28] cjohnston: you always say that :p [14:28] it really isnt [14:28] thats a admin change [14:29] we haven't deployed anything today for sure. [14:29] aha [14:29] we should ask jorge to announce. Guys if you change something in the summit admin, please let the ~summit-hackers know. [14:33] mhall119: locally it just works [14:34] and the arm-linus interface one today is scheduled twice in different rooms non-consecutive [14:35] czajkowski: blame jcastro [14:36] so currently the bots are working [14:36] tsimpson: [14:37] 09.33.56 < tsimpson_> for details, my hack is to try and partition on ' - ', and go with the last component [14:37] the bots are working around the change [14:37] 09.34.21 < tsimpson_> and a sub-hack for the grand ballroom, as that one doesn't have a number-space-dash-space [14:39] mhall119: i'd rather no [14:40] mhall119: more fun to blame cjohnston [14:40] blah [14:41] glad the room names were not in the pad URLs [14:43] which reminds me, the "Name" in the csv isn't exported in the ical, just fyi [14:44] czajkowski: either way, popey's probably happy we're not blaming him [14:45] okay guys [14:45] I blame popey [14:45] tsimpson: can I break it again for the fix? [14:45] as in, the final fix. [14:45] you can use the name instead of the title [14:46] Keep Calm and Blame Popey [14:46] ok, you can break it now [14:46] jcastro: ping [14:46] I've temporarily disabled the script that automatically downloads the schedule [14:47] cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title [14:48] cjohnston: wait, don't approve it yet. This has more problems. We need to talk at the break time. [14:48] cjohnston: or do you want to jump out earlier than that? [14:49] meet in front of the grand ballroom? [14:49] cjohnston: yup, be there in 2. [14:49] k [14:51] studying the csv, Dery is also broken, showing as "4- Dery". Petofi has not number or dash either [14:52] tsimpson: we are trying to come up with a fix [14:52] you are going to use the ical only correct [14:53] cjohnston: yep [14:54] tsimpson: ok, we'll fix the ical to use the name of the session instead of title, that should make your life easier [14:55] mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/room-name-instead-of-title/+merge/60381 [14:56] mhall119: could you review and approve [14:58] nigelb: reviewing [14:58] mhall119: the csv or ical is used by guidebook [14:58] ical [14:59] oh *&%$&( [14:59] mhall119: ok, don't review :( [14:59] we have other issues to fix now :\ [15:01] what do the bots use the room name for? [15:01] Mapping the to the channel name iirc. [15:01] ok honestly streaming sucks donkey balls [15:01] and to generate the audio stream links [15:02] czajkowski: it prolly has to do with the fact that the internet sucks for us too [15:02] it was fine for keynotes this morning [15:02] cut out maybe once [15:02] but sessions [15:02] are woeful [15:03] its more bandwidth [15:04] all i;m getting is static [15:04] or interference and noise [15:04] crackly mess [15:04] and i;m not just refering to cjohnston talking as noise and static [15:04] doesn't sound like bandwidth issue [15:04] mikszath suddenly got better [15:05] huba is the one i'm listenign to now [15:05] cuts in and out [15:08] Daviey: I would love to see the stats from the admin page of the pad server at the end of the day [15:11] is there a video for the keynote uploaded somewhere? [15:11] * IdleOne missed it :/ [15:13] IdleOne: Popey iploaded one to blip.tv earlier [15:15] i wish summit had the red line across the schedule like the "day" view on calendars tend to, so you know where on the schedule is "now" [15:15] i wish sessions started on time [15:17] we have been behind the whole day cause of the overtime in the morning [15:18] knock on effect [15:19] no leader in this session i;m in [15:19] trying to figure out who to lead it [15:23] IdleOne: http://blip.tv/dashboard/episode/5139650 [15:23] yes, thank you popey and Technoviking :) [15:28] tsimpson: we need to talk later... we have a fix that we need to show you so you can fix the bot [15:28] cjohnston: ok, the bot can work around the current format with a couple of hacks [15:29] We have made a fix that wont require hacks [15:29] will work nicely for you and guidebook [15:29] you will have your own defined term for the bot [15:31] AlanBell: i don't have admin access, you need Spads. [15:37] tsimpson: ahoy, we need your help tomorrow [15:37] oh? [15:37] the bot does use the ical, right? [15:37] tsimpson: we've added a new field to the ical, the name of the room, that should help you [15:37] not the csv? [15:37] tsimpson: will be deployed tonight [15:38] ok, thanks Daviey [15:38] mhall119: yeah, it only used the csv because there wasn't an ical [15:38] but it's ical now? [15:38] yeah [15:38] ok [15:39] we used to get the csv and convert it to ical, so the pre-made ical makes it easier :) [15:39] the new ical will have a new field with lower-case room name without the number [15:39] as long as it's somewhere, it should be easy enough to grab [15:41] omg just when it started getting good it stopped [15:41] * IdleOne wants more keynote [16:26] jcastro: you around? [16:26] or anyone know where he is [17:42] jcastro: scheduling alteration please, community accessibility session tomorrow at 16:15 in Jozsef 12 clashes with Qt and KDE accessibility in Kazinczy 11 apparently the Qt/KDE one has been manually set, load of required people in both, not sure why they are not avoiding each other [17:46] james_w: you busy? [17:48] anyone know where Daviey is? [17:50] jcastro: hey.. can you bump the Growing community Unity contributions session to like after the GTK3/GNOME3 session? right now both are at the same time and the slot is available after the GTK3 session.. [17:50] would be a 1hr bump.. [17:50] jcastro is offline [17:50] hmm.. [17:53] fwiw the brief interruption to the etherpad at 16:15 or so was down to human error, not load or anything like that [17:53] what did you do? [17:54] wasn't me :) [17:54] I doubt that [17:54] spads tried to do something with setting up a virtualhost entry or something [17:54] gotcha [17:54] he didn't realise that it isn't as stateless as a normal webserver [17:59] AlanBell: heh [17:59] but etherpad has been rocking today [17:59] like everyone seems to like it [18:05] yeah, I am really pleased with it [18:06] so glad it got fixed with a full half hour to go before the keynote! [18:08] AlanBell: heh [18:14] thinking of adding a pad history link to url in the form http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements/latest to the list of links below the pad === daker is now known as daker_ [19:18] http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ should be updated to point to #ubuntu-uds-kazinczy rather than #ubuntu-uds-kazincy [19:18] jcastro ^ I think that's you [19:19] and where ever else rooms/channels are referred to [19:19] Did you setup a forward anyway? [19:31] cjohnston: I am going to fix that bug so you can have common pads, it can also be used to link to a read only version of the pad to stop the trolls from having fun [19:31] someone must have linked to a pad page from OMG ubuntu or something [19:31] Pici: yeah, the ical feed changed to "Kazinczy" anyway [19:56] need some thoughts on how to trollproof summit and the pads a bit [19:58] they were trolled? [19:58] yup [19:58] at least one was [19:58] Ubuntu SSO/openid integration? [19:58] one specific pad or lots? [19:58] i saw one had been a bit, which one? [19:58] wasnt sure if the one I saw was trolled or just messed up by errant keypresses [19:59] http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/view/uds-o-foundations-o-great-cd-debate/ from rev.5403 onwards (server is down right now) [19:59] Pici: yeah, would be great, but not by tomorrow am I think [20:00] AlanBell: Yeah :/ [20:00] so I can link to a specific revision like this http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.10 [20:02] so after a session someone with admin access could set the pad url field (which I will add to the schema) to the correct read only version to basically lock it in the summit interface [20:02] the trolls could carry on trolling but nobody would care [20:03] however that depends on someone with admin access deciding which revision to lock it at [20:03] hmm, wonder where they came from [20:03] indeed [20:55] it is really going to need openID integration and a link to a launchpad group :( [20:56] what is? [20:57] nigelb: hi [20:57] the pad was being vandalised [20:58] AlanBell: vandalised? [20:58] need to put some fixes through to try to take their toys away a bit [20:58] AlanBell: meaning taken over for stuff other than uds [20:58] yeah, 20 or so trolls piled on a pad and started chatting away and posting porn links and crap and messing up the text [20:59] ugh [20:59] who found that? [21:00] the fix I have come up with so far is to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/779887 [21:01] Launchpad bug 779887 in summit "Etherpad URL should really be a db field" [High,Triaged] [21:01] it was uds-o-desktop-o-unity-2d-improvements [21:02] so what I am thinking nigelb is to fix ^^ which gives us a URL that can override what is in the iframe [21:02] AlanBell: that's landed about 2 seconds ago [21:02] and that url can be a link to a read only or specific version of the pad [21:02] AlanBell: mhall119 and I are in the processing of deploying it :) [21:02] aloha [21:03] o/ [21:04] nigelb: so we end up with something like http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:9000/ep/pad/view/onemorepage/rev.13 in the iframe [21:05] you can still scroll forward and spammers can still mess about, but the summit page will end up linking to a good version [21:05] AlanBell: I like. [21:06] I can't think of a better short term solution [21:06] Neither can I [21:07] I do not want to muck up with java code *during* UDS on a live system [21:07] me neither [21:07] because mucking up with python *during* UDS on a live system is just soo much more fun [21:07] although I do have a separate system to muck about on [21:07] well, yes [21:07] Python is actually nice [21:07] as opposed to java [21:07] and we have people who know inside out of it [21:11] mhall119: aye never seen a system so muched about during it [21:12] AlanBell: ping [21:12] czajkowski: I know, it's fun isn't it? [21:13] so far it's been jcastro's mundane changes to the data that have been the source of problems [21:14] hi czajkowski [21:15] yeah, saw that chaos mhall119! [21:15] nigelb: ok, pulled and migrated locally, you messed up something I was about to do :) [21:16] AlanBell: seen pm [21:16] AlanBell: I messed up? [21:16] AlanBell: at this point, I'm running on pure determination, so I could have. [21:16] no you didn't mess up [21:17] yet... [21:17] nigelb: 's also been drinking, so we can blame it on the alcohol [21:18]