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inashdeenhi,anyone here?12:07
inashdeeni want to make a suggestion12:07
_persiaIs anyone attnding this meeting on IRC?15:19
czajkowski_persia: which one15:20
* ogra_ is 15:20
ogra_DMB15:20
czajkowskiwish there was a bot that annouced meetings in here15:20
ogra_there once was :)15:20
czajkowskiogra_: did you break it ...15:21
cody-somerville#startmeeting15:21
MootBotMeeting started at 09:21. The chair is cody-somerville.15:21
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:21
psusiyou mean is anyone who is physically at uds also here on irc?15:21
ogra_i never touched IRC bots in my life15:21
rdiankovrdiankov is here for the per-package-uploader application15:21
rdiankovlet me know when you guys get around to it15:22
cody-somerville[TOPIC] Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers15:22
MootBotNew Topic:  Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers15:22
ogra_geez, he isnt core dev already ?!?15:23
cody-somervilleRAOF_, Hi. Could you introduce yourself and your application?15:23
macooh, this channel15:23
cody-somerville[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisHalseRogers/CoreDevApplication15:23
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisHalseRogers/CoreDevApplication15:23
sconklinlink to agenda?15:23
stgraberhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda15:23
RAOF_Hi.  I'm Chris Halse Rogers.  I've been involved in Ubuntu for… 5 years now?15:24
RAOF_I started off working on various packages in Universe; I had the TIL status on miro for quite some time.15:24
RAOF_I'm the maintainer of GNOME Do, and I'm (somewhat) active in packaging mono apps in Ubuntu & pkg-cli-* in Debian.15:24
RAOF_I'm currently one of our X maintainers, along with Bryce.15:25
LaneyThere's some more information here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000201.html (we started this application on email)15:25
stgraberE-mail discussion so far: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000190.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000192.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000201.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-May/000217.html15:25
Laney:-)15:25
* stgraber doesn't have any question for RAOF_ and is ready to vote15:26
macoditto15:26
* Laney had his questions answered on email, so no more from me either ...15:26
cody-somerville[VOTE] Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers15:27
MootBotPlease vote on:  Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers.15:27
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maco+1 i'm with ogra15:27
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ogra_:)15:27
stgraber+115:27
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bdrung+115:27
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Laney+1 // please don't forget about pkg-cli-* ♥15:27
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_persia+1 : long history, clean work15:28
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cody-somerville#endvote15:28
maco:-o persia's back!15:28
* ogra_ feels less alone knowing that maco is with him15:28
cody-somerville#endvote15:28
ogra_maco, even at UDS :)15:28
Laney[endvote]15:28
cody-somerville[endvote]15:28
MootBotFinal result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 615:28
Laney\o/15:29
RAOF_\o/15:29
cody-somerville[TOPIC] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz15:29
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz15:29
hrw;)15:29
hrwo/15:29
cody-somervillehrw, Hi Marcin. Could you please introduce yourself and your application?15:29
cody-somerville[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributor15:29
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributor15:29
* ogra_ cheers for hrw 15:30
hrwHi, I'm Marcin Juszkiewicz, working for Linaro. most of my work is related to cross compilation support in Ubuntu (since 10.10).15:30
hrwI maintain cross toolchain (amd64/i386 -> armel) and work on fixing ftfbs on armel platform15:30
hrwuser of Debian since 1999, moved to Ubuntu year ago due to Linaro work.15:31
hrw7 years in OpenEmbedded project as developer, worked as release maintainer of last versions of OpenZaurus distribution15:32
Laneycould Debian benefit from any of your work in Ubuntu? Have you been involved with any Debian developent in the past?15:32
ogra_marcin did awesome work to enable the arm community to do sane cross builds, he really deserves to be able to upload the bits he maintains15:32
cody-somervillehrw, What contribution to Ubuntu are you most proud of?15:32
hrwI maintained rox-filer outside of debian for a while and now (with few guys from emdebian team) I work on moving my corss toolchain to debian15:32
hrwcody-somerville: cross toolchain packages. they build for debian/ubuntu/linaro backport ppa from one set of debian/rules15:33
hrwoneiric version is ready for being merge - but I left that for after uds due to lack of time15:33
cody-somervilleAny further questions?15:34
Laneynot from me15:34
stgrabernope15:34
maconope15:34
cody-somerville[VOTE] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz15:34
MootBotPlease vote on:  Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz.15:34
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cody-somerville[endvote]15:35
MootBotFinal result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 615:35
cody-somervilleCongratulations hrw.15:35
hrw\o/15:35
Laney:)15:35
rsalveti\o/15:35
hrwthanks15:35
cody-somerville[TOPIC] PerPackageUploader Application 'John Rigby' for packages u-boot-linaro and linux-linaro.15:36
MootBotNew Topic:  PerPackageUploader Application 'John Rigby' for packages u-boot-linaro and linux-linaro.15:36
Laneythere's no source package linux-linaro btw15:37
hrwLaney: was in maverick, then got split into few iirc15:37
Laneyyeah there are a few linux-linaro-*15:38
Laneymove on?15:38
_persiaThe ability to split the package is attributable to jrigby (thanks), but we do need a list.15:38
cody-somerville[TOPIC] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Phillip Susi15:39
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Phillip Susi15:39
hrwok, will catch him to update application15:39
Laneypsusi: hi15:39
cody-somervillepsusi, Please introduce yourself and your application. :)15:40
RAOF_How are you not already… something? :)15:40
Laneyhe was around recently15:40
Laneyblast!15:40
ogra_RAOF_, to busy answering bumail ? :)15:40
ogra_*bugmail15:41
cody-somerville[TOPIC] Ubuntu Core Developer Application:  Barry Warsaw15:41
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu Core Developer Application:  Barry Warsaw15:41
barryhi!15:41
barryhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BarryWarsaw/MyApplication15:41
psusihello15:41
barryi'm barry warsaw.  i work for ubuntu foundations.  have been an ubuntu user since 2007 and a linux/unix user for a bazillion years before that15:41
Laneymake mailman stop spamming me every month!15:41
psusiwoops, was rebooting for a moment15:42
barryLaney, you should see how much *i* get :)15:42
barryin natty cycle i worked heavily on python 2.7 transition15:42
macopsusi: we'll grab you next15:43
psusiroger15:43
Laney(http://paste.ubuntu.com/605246/ ;)15:43
barryand i'm working w/debian to get those changes and others upstream15:43
* Laney stops trolling now15:43
cody-somervillebarry, So, you've submitted a core-developer application before. Can you tell us a little bit about what you've done since then?15:44
barryi've done a couple of sru's since then15:44
barryand have more packages under my belt15:45
LaneyI see you plan on working on pkgme/quickly — is this an indicator that you think Debian packaging is too difficult? What could we do better?15:45
barryfor python packages, i'd like to see that anything with a setup.py is just one button push away from being packaged for debian/ubuntu15:46
cody-somervillebarry, How would you characterize your understanding of Debian packaging compared to when you last applied?15:46
barrydh_python2 makes packages easier (and i've been working on that transition too)15:46
barrybut i do think that many rules files are kind of magical :)15:46
Laney'dh' is very magical15:47
barrycody-somerville, i think i have a better understanding of versioning, and how the relationship between ubuntu and debian works better15:47
barryLaney, it is, but kind of in a good way :)  i think make files are rather incomprehensible to many people (in my experience)15:47
barryi very often get questions about make/autotools/etc15:48
* maco does not like pure makefiles. cmake or setup.py pretty please15:48
cody-somervillebarry, In a nutshell, why should we approve you for core developer in contrast to when you last applied?15:48
barrycody-somerville, i think i've learned a lot since then, had many successfully sponsored patches, and have more good endorsements since last time15:49
cody-somervillebarry, Can you give us a good example?15:50
bdrungbarry: you are familiar with python packages. are you familiar with other type of packages?15:50
barrycody-somerville, good example of sponsored stuff or endorsements?15:50
barrybdrung, i have done a few other types of packages.  some vala stuff early in the last cycle15:50
cody-somervillebarry, an example of your work15:51
barryi'm naturally heavy w/python stuff both because of my background and because the py27 transition was so important to natty cycle15:51
barrysru for a fuse problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse/+bug/69779215:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 697792 in fuse (Ubuntu Natty) "permissions of /etc/fuse.conf are reset on upgrade" [Medium,Fix released]15:51
barry(that wasn't python specific)15:52
barryi recently debugged a problem w/virtualenv and python 3 (which *should* work in debian, but doesn't) and submitted a fix in debian for that15:53
barryhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=62578415:53
MootBotLINK received:  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=62578415:53
ubottuDebian bug 625784 in python-virtualenv "python-virtualenv: 'virtualenv -p python3 xx' should work but doesn't" [Important,Open]15:53
cody-somervillebarry, Would you have felt comfortable pushing that change into the archive yourself?15:53
barryi like taking on difficult problems :)  that virtualenv one was particularly fun to figure out and fix15:53
barrycody-somerville, the virtualenv one? yes, i would15:53
cody-somervillebarry, I was referring to the fix for the fuse issue.15:54
barryah, yes.  i would.  i tested it quite thoroughly both before and after, with test packages in my ppa, etc.15:54
barryi was very confident that it fixed the bug, but still appreciated code review of it (which i'm a big proponent of)15:55
Laneydid you watch the bugs afterward to make sure there were no regressions?15:55
barrythat's one reason for example, that i really like udd to working on patches.  merge proposals are a great interface for doing code reviews15:55
barryLaney, i did15:55
barrynote too, that there were srus for both maverick and lucid15:56
cody-somervilleAny other questions?15:57
stgrabernot from me15:57
Laneynein15:58
bdrungno15:58
bdrungnincs15:58
cody-somerville[VOTE] Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw15:59
MootBotPlease vote on:  Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw.15:59
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LaneyMahou'hpu15:59
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_persia+1 : Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate a bit more scope since your last application.15:59
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cody-somerville[endvote]16:00
MootBotFinal result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 516:00
stgraberbarry: congrats!16:00
cody-somervillebarry, Thats quite the turn around. Congratulations.16:00
Laneywooooooo16:00
barrythanks very much!16:00
bdrungcongrats16:00
cody-somervilleUnfortunately thats all the time we have today.16:00
cody-somerville#endmeeting16:01
MootBotMeeting finished at 10:01.16:01
macopsusi: sorry about getting skipped :-(16:01
psusino problem... bad timing for a reboot ;)16:01
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