=== emma is now known as em [03:30] Hey gang [06:42] /win 19 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === itnet7 is now known as itnet7_uds === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [12:07] hi,anyone here? [12:07] i want to make a suggestion [15:19] <_persia> Is anyone attnding this meeting on IRC? [15:20] _persia: which one [15:20] * ogra_ is [15:20] DMB [15:20] wish there was a bot that annouced meetings in here [15:20] there once was :) [15:21] ogra_: did you break it ... [15:21] #startmeeting [15:21] Meeting started at 09:21. The chair is cody-somerville. [15:21] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [15:21] you mean is anyone who is physically at uds also here on irc? [15:21] i never touched IRC bots in my life [15:21] rdiankov is here for the per-package-uploader application [15:22] let me know when you guys get around to it [15:22] [TOPIC] Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers [15:22] New Topic: Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers [15:23] geez, he isnt core dev already ?!? [15:23] RAOF_, Hi. Could you introduce yourself and your application? [15:23] oh, this channel [15:23] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisHalseRogers/CoreDevApplication [15:23] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisHalseRogers/CoreDevApplication [15:23] link to agenda? [15:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [15:24] Hi. I'm Chris Halse Rogers. I've been involved in Ubuntu for… 5 years now? [15:24] I started off working on various packages in Universe; I had the TIL status on miro for quite some time. [15:24] I'm the maintainer of GNOME Do, and I'm (somewhat) active in packaging mono apps in Ubuntu & pkg-cli-* in Debian. [15:25] I'm currently one of our X maintainers, along with Bryce. [15:25] There's some more information here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000201.html (we started this application on email) [15:25] E-mail discussion so far: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000190.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000192.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-April/000201.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2011-May/000217.html [15:25] :-) [15:26] * stgraber doesn't have any question for RAOF_ and is ready to vote [15:26] ditto [15:26] * Laney had his questions answered on email, so no more from me either ... [15:27] [VOTE] Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers [15:27] Please vote on: Application for Ubuntu Core Developer: Christopher James Halse Rogers. [15:27] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [15:27] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [15:27] +1 [15:27] +1 received from cody-somerville. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [15:27] +1 i'm with ogra [15:27] +1 received from maco. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [15:27] :) [15:27] +1 [15:27] +1 received from stgraber. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [15:27] +1 [15:27] +1 received from bdrung. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [15:27] +1 // please don't forget about pkg-cli-* ♥ [15:27] +1 received from Laney. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [15:28] <_persia> +1 : long history, clean work [15:28] +1 received from _persia. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [15:28] #endvote [15:28] :-o persia's back! [15:28] * ogra_ feels less alone knowing that maco is with him [15:28] #endvote [15:28] maco, even at UDS :) [15:28] [endvote] [15:28] [endvote] [15:28] Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6 [15:29] \o/ [15:29] \o/ [15:29] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz [15:29] New Topic: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz [15:29] ;) [15:29] o/ [15:29] hrw, Hi Marcin. Could you please introduce yourself and your application? [15:29] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributor [15:29] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributor [15:30] * ogra_ cheers for hrw [15:30] Hi, I'm Marcin Juszkiewicz, working for Linaro. most of my work is related to cross compilation support in Ubuntu (since 10.10). [15:30] I maintain cross toolchain (amd64/i386 -> armel) and work on fixing ftfbs on armel platform [15:31] user of Debian since 1999, moved to Ubuntu year ago due to Linaro work. [15:32] 7 years in OpenEmbedded project as developer, worked as release maintainer of last versions of OpenZaurus distribution [15:32] could Debian benefit from any of your work in Ubuntu? Have you been involved with any Debian developent in the past? [15:32] marcin did awesome work to enable the arm community to do sane cross builds, he really deserves to be able to upload the bits he maintains [15:32] hrw, What contribution to Ubuntu are you most proud of? [15:32] I maintained rox-filer outside of debian for a while and now (with few guys from emdebian team) I work on moving my corss toolchain to debian [15:33] cody-somerville: cross toolchain packages. they build for debian/ubuntu/linaro backport ppa from one set of debian/rules [15:33] oneiric version is ready for being merge - but I left that for after uds due to lack of time [15:34] Any further questions? [15:34] not from me [15:34] nope [15:34] nope [15:34] [VOTE] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz [15:34] Please vote on: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Marcin Juszkiewicz. [15:34] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [15:34] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [15:34] +1 [15:34] +1 received from Laney. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 [15:34] +1 [15:34] +1 received from stgraber. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 [15:34] +1 [15:34] +1 received from cody-somerville. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 [15:35] +1 [15:35] +1 received from maco. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 [15:35] +1 [15:35] +1 received from bdrung. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 [15:35] <_persia> +1 [15:35] +1 received from _persia. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 [15:35] [endvote] [15:35] Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6 [15:35] Congratulations hrw. [15:35] \o/ [15:35] :) [15:35] \o/ [15:35] thanks [15:36] [TOPIC] PerPackageUploader Application 'John Rigby' for packages u-boot-linaro and linux-linaro. [15:36] New Topic: PerPackageUploader Application 'John Rigby' for packages u-boot-linaro and linux-linaro. [15:37] there's no source package linux-linaro btw [15:37] Laney: was in maverick, then got split into few iirc [15:38] yeah there are a few linux-linaro-* [15:38] move on? [15:38] <_persia> The ability to split the package is attributable to jrigby (thanks), but we do need a list. [15:39] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Phillip Susi [15:39] New Topic: Ubuntu Contributing Developer Application: Phillip Susi [15:39] ok, will catch him to update application [15:39] psusi: hi [15:40] psusi, Please introduce yourself and your application. :) [15:40] How are you not already… something? :) [15:40] he was around recently [15:40] blast! [15:40] RAOF_, to busy answering bumail ? :) [15:41] *bugmail [15:41] [TOPIC] Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw [15:41] New Topic: Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw [15:41] hi! [15:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BarryWarsaw/MyApplication [15:41] hello [15:41] i'm barry warsaw. i work for ubuntu foundations. have been an ubuntu user since 2007 and a linux/unix user for a bazillion years before that [15:41] make mailman stop spamming me every month! [15:42] woops, was rebooting for a moment [15:42] Laney, you should see how much *i* get :) [15:42] in natty cycle i worked heavily on python 2.7 transition [15:43] psusi: we'll grab you next [15:43] roger [15:43] (http://paste.ubuntu.com/605246/ ;) [15:43] and i'm working w/debian to get those changes and others upstream [15:43] * Laney stops trolling now [15:44] barry, So, you've submitted a core-developer application before. Can you tell us a little bit about what you've done since then? [15:44] i've done a couple of sru's since then [15:45] and have more packages under my belt [15:45] I see you plan on working on pkgme/quickly — is this an indicator that you think Debian packaging is too difficult? What could we do better? [15:46] for python packages, i'd like to see that anything with a setup.py is just one button push away from being packaged for debian/ubuntu [15:46] barry, How would you characterize your understanding of Debian packaging compared to when you last applied? [15:46] dh_python2 makes packages easier (and i've been working on that transition too) [15:46] but i do think that many rules files are kind of magical :) [15:47] 'dh' is very magical [15:47] cody-somerville, i think i have a better understanding of versioning, and how the relationship between ubuntu and debian works better [15:47] Laney, it is, but kind of in a good way :) i think make files are rather incomprehensible to many people (in my experience) [15:48] i very often get questions about make/autotools/etc [15:48] * maco does not like pure makefiles. cmake or setup.py pretty please [15:48] barry, In a nutshell, why should we approve you for core developer in contrast to when you last applied? [15:49] cody-somerville, i think i've learned a lot since then, had many successfully sponsored patches, and have more good endorsements since last time [15:50] barry, Can you give us a good example? [15:50] barry: you are familiar with python packages. are you familiar with other type of packages? [15:50] cody-somerville, good example of sponsored stuff or endorsements? [15:50] bdrung, i have done a few other types of packages. some vala stuff early in the last cycle [15:51] barry, an example of your work [15:51] i'm naturally heavy w/python stuff both because of my background and because the py27 transition was so important to natty cycle [15:51] sru for a fuse problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse/+bug/697792 [15:51] Ubuntu bug 697792 in fuse (Ubuntu Natty) "permissions of /etc/fuse.conf are reset on upgrade" [Medium,Fix released] [15:52] (that wasn't python specific) [15:53] i recently debugged a problem w/virtualenv and python 3 (which *should* work in debian, but doesn't) and submitted a fix in debian for that [15:53] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=625784 [15:53] LINK received: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=625784 [15:53] Debian bug 625784 in python-virtualenv "python-virtualenv: 'virtualenv -p python3 xx' should work but doesn't" [Important,Open] [15:53] barry, Would you have felt comfortable pushing that change into the archive yourself? [15:53] i like taking on difficult problems :) that virtualenv one was particularly fun to figure out and fix [15:53] cody-somerville, the virtualenv one? yes, i would [15:54] barry, I was referring to the fix for the fuse issue. [15:54] ah, yes. i would. i tested it quite thoroughly both before and after, with test packages in my ppa, etc. [15:55] i was very confident that it fixed the bug, but still appreciated code review of it (which i'm a big proponent of) [15:55] did you watch the bugs afterward to make sure there were no regressions? [15:55] that's one reason for example, that i really like udd to working on patches. merge proposals are a great interface for doing code reviews [15:55] Laney, i did [15:56] note too, that there were srus for both maverick and lucid [15:57] Any other questions? [15:57] not from me [15:58] nein [15:58] no [15:58] nincs [15:59] [VOTE] Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw [15:59] Please vote on: Ubuntu Core Developer Application: Barry Warsaw. [15:59] Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot [15:59] E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting [15:59] +0 [15:59] Abstention received from cody-somerville. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 0 [15:59] Mahou'hpu [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from stgraber. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 1 [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from maco. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 2 [15:59] <_persia> +1 : Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate a bit more scope since your last application. [15:59] +1 received from _persia. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 3 [15:59] +1 [15:59] +1 received from bdrung. 4 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 4 [16:00] +1 [16:00] +1 received from Laney. 5 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 5 [16:00] [endvote] [16:00] Final result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 5 [16:00] barry: congrats! [16:00] barry, Thats quite the turn around. Congratulations. [16:00] wooooooo [16:00] thanks very much! [16:00] congrats [16:00] Unfortunately thats all the time we have today. [16:01] #endmeeting [16:01] Meeting finished at 10:01. [16:01] psusi: sorry about getting skipped :-( [16:01] no problem... bad timing for a reboot ;) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === maco2 is now known as maco === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk