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ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)00:54
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)00:54
ubottuIn #ubuntu, claug said: ubottu: doing an lspci is not even showing any intel wireless card in the system, same with the broadcom card....03:45
ubottuIn #ubuntu, EGuinn said: ubottu: MP3 is not a free format?06:17
popeywho is able to set topics in the #ubuntu-uds-* channels?10:21
popeyI tried and am unable10:21
Flannelpopey: Ubuntu members, IRC Council, and udsbotu (assuming they're all the same)10:23
popeyI am a member and chanserv said I cant10:23
FlannelWas it more than 13 minutes ago?10:24
popeyit was 4 minutes ago10:25
Flannelhmm, alright.  No idea.10:25
* popey shrugs10:26
popeyhey ho10:26
tsimpsonpopey: the bot will overwrite any topic changes anyway10:46
popeythis was before the bot was about10:46
tsimpsonit took me longer than I thought to get the bot running10:47
gordfyi: jussi is wearing crocks. just fyi11:07
hypatiahaha11:07
elkygord, he's married now, he doesn't have to care what he looks like11:16
elkyalso, pass on a mocking laugh from me.11:17
elkynelson style, if you can manage it11:17
jussiexcuse me?11:17
jussi<3 crocs11:17
elkycrocs, ha ha!11:17
jussimeh11:19
IdleOnehahaha11:41
LAcan!help11:55
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:55
LAcan!banned11:55
ubottuIf you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable !behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable !behaviour is please see !Etiquette and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines - If you think the ban was a mistake, please join #ubuntu-ops11:55
LAcan!Etiquette11:55
IdleOneLAcan: Your attitude and language in #ubuntu is unacceptable.11:55
ubottuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...11:55
LAcanwhat language bro?11:55
LAcanstfu?11:55
IdleOnecorrect11:55
LAcantheres no cursing11:55
LAcanstfu is an acronym... u do the cursing in your mind if u want to11:55
IdleOneacronyms and obfuscation are the same as typing the wrod out.11:55
LAcanhwoever, i can refrain from using stfu in the future11:55
LAcanya, all of linguistics disagrees with you, but w/e11:56
IdleOneLAcan: 48 hours is how long it is going to take before anyone on the ops team is going to consider removing the ban.11:56
LAcanbummer11:56
LAcanoh, and thanks for not pwoertripping11:57
LAcanits kind of u11:57
LAcangiven the countless number of newbs i help with their goddamn nvidia wont work problems11:57
LAcanvery courteous11:57
IdleOneLAcan: ^^ that is not power tripping? you think because you help a few people it gives you the right to bend the rules?11:58
LAcandude, i used "stfu" once11:58
LAcanONCE11:58
hypatiaand you were asked not to11:58
LAcanand so i didnt use it again11:59
IdleOneculmination of poor attitude and lack of respect for the rules and other users in the channel over the last few weeks. the STFU earlier was the straw that broke the back...11:59
LAcanuh uh11:59
LAcanit was me telling u "w/e" that broke you12:00
IdleOneSo, please part this channel and return in 48 hours if you are serious about helping the Ubuntu community.12:00
LAcanadmit it idel, thats why u banned me12:00
LAcanw/e12:00
IdleOneno the STFU set off my highlights. till then I was sipping my coffee checking emails12:00
IdleOneThat is all I have to say.12:01
LAcanya nd u kicked me for it, and i didnt violate any other rules12:01
elkyLAcan, please leave and return in 48hrs12:03
jribLAcan: I think at this point the best thing to do is take a break from #ubuntu for the time IdleOne thinks is reasonable, read the !guidelines, make sure you agree to follow them in the future, and then return12:03
* LAcan sets mode #ubuntu-ops +b *!*@*12:04
elkyOops. He banned himself.12:04
jpdsImpressive.12:08
LjLfyi, i'm applying as #u and -ot op13:24
bazhanggreat news13:25
IdleOneI saw and I +1 for both13:25
IdleOneif my opinion matters13:25
jussiIdleOne: nah, no one listens to you :P14:25
IdleOnejust like in real life.14:25
IdleOneI heard you are wearing crocs at UDS?14:26
PiciHah14:26
IdleOneI submit that as reason for immediate removal from IRCC14:26
IdleOne:P14:26
jussiwhat is wrong with crocs?14:27
IdleOnenothing!14:27
IdleOnethey are comfy from I have been told14:27
IdleOnewhat*14:28
jussicrocs increase my efficiency14:28
IdleOnemy daughter finds them very easy to put on also. She is 614:28
* IdleOne is a mean cuss sometimes :-)14:28
PiciWasn't jcastro was wearing those five finger shoes at the last UDS?14:29
IdleOnefive finger shoes?14:29
IdleOneI gotta google this14:30
knomemy sister etc uses those for running14:30
IdleOnehaha those are sexy!14:30
IdleOneI want a pair with painted toe nails14:30
knomeIdleOne, that's WRONG14:30
jussinah, I think that was cris crisafulli14:31
Picijussi: I thought they both had them.14:31
* Pici shrugs14:31
jussimaybe14:31
IdleOneknome: might as well go for it all the way14:31
IdleOneMy old boss almost got fined by the health inspector at the restaurant because he was wearing crocs heh14:33
PiciI asked my brother if he was allowed to wear his to surgery, I forget what he said though.14:33
IdleOneI don't think they can14:33
PiciWell, hes going to be a vet, things a little more relaxed compared with human medicie.14:34
Pici*medicine.14:34
IdleOneah.14:34
jussiin finland, they are the usualt footware in hospitals.14:34
IdleOneare they crocs or berkenstocks (sic)14:35
IdleOne?14:35
jussibut can we move on? I really am not too entralled with the fact that Im being mocked for wearing comfy shoes.14:35
IdleOneI know those are very comfortable and many doctors and nurses wear them14:35
IdleOneI apologize jussi. I honestly believe you can wear anything you are comfortable with.14:36
jussiIdleOne: no probs14:37
* popey points at jussi's feet and laughs14:42
highvoltagecrocs should really be illegal14:43
popeyeither that or electrified14:43
IdleOneSo, anyway.14:43
highvoltageostracized14:43
popeyocelotizied14:43
IdleOnethis channel really is not the place and we were asked to move on...14:43
knomenow look what you did14:45
popey:)14:45
ikoniahello aauthor15:41
aauthorikonia: Hello, actually, I was just checking this channel out.  If I'm not supposed to idle here, I'll leave.15:42
ikoniathat would be great (check the /topic for more info)15:42
aauthorikonia: OK, thanks.15:43
PiciGreat. Lars now has the honor of being assigned our 40000th bantracker id.16:01
IdleOnehe has the last 6000 bans16:01
IdleOneI was thinking maybe banning *dip.t-dialin.net but we have several users from there16:02
IdleOnemany who are not disruptive16:02
Pici"Do any channel operators/staff have any experience with filing ISP abuse reports for problem users?  We have a user that refuses to follow our rules, but their ISP hands out dynamic addresses and the user is smart enough to change up their nick and ident."  <- I just asked that i #freenode16:03
Piciargh16:06
Picihes back again16:06
dermarker_hi16:07
IdleOnedermarker_: hello thank you for joining16:08
dermarker_hello16:08
IdleOneI wanted to speak to you a little about the situation we have going here where you keep joining #ubuntu and asking the same thing over and over16:08
IdleOnewe continue to ban you and you continue to bypass the bans16:08
dermarker_hehee16:08
dermarker_but i have to say i am not Lars16:08
IdleOnecan we speak seriously about this?16:08
dermarker_he is only my neighbour16:09
dermarker_okay16:09
IdleOneokay if you say you are not Lars I believe you.16:09
dermarker_Lars is the only one who is really serious. But he is angry with us16:09
IdleOnebut Why do we have to continue to be abused by you and lars with this same issue?16:09
dermarker_he said, because me and his other neighbours he is banned here16:10
IdleOneit isn't funny, it is disruptive, it stops us from helping people who really need help because we are continuously having to deal with you16:10
dermarker_okay i have a deal16:10
dermarker_HE can come back, we not, and he DONt ask again16:10
IdleOnedermarker_: I will make a deal with you16:10
IdleOneStop abusing our channels or we will be forced to report this abuse to your ISP.16:11
dermarker_okay but can HE come back16:11
dermarker_because he didnt do anythinG16:11
dermarker_we will stay away16:11
IdleOneWe will allow him back in the channels if he respects our rules16:11
dermarker_okay i will tell him, thank you good byee16:12
IdleOneif he does not we will ban him.16:12
IdleOneWill see how this goes.16:13
IdleOnePici: I think you should still see about the reporting to the ISP thing16:13
PiciIdleOne: I will.16:14
IdleOneSo lets give him a chance to conform to the rules. I think 1 warning should suffice and if he repeats we ban the entire host I guess?16:14
PiciIdleOne: News to me, Deutsche Telekom AG owns T-Mobile, which is one of the mobile ISPs that is forced to use SASL to connect to freenode.  It would be a bit much for freenode to require SASL just because we have one problem user, but I think I'll pursue that as well.16:18
Pici(Deutsche Telekom AG) is lars's ISP16:18
IdleOnewell if we go by what dermaker said it more than one user16:19
IdleOnebut yeah I hear you16:19
CarlFKI wonder if this would work:  ban the whole host for a few minutes, kick the abuser.  others that try to join during that window will be unexpectedly blocked.16:27
CarlFKmy hunch is it will disrupt the abuse's behavior about 100x as much as the random joiner16:28
IdleOneopen to suggestions, I am just tired of having to remove/ban and I know Pici has had his fill also.16:30
CarlFKno clue if that 100x will be enough.  I can see some being provoked to spend hours being annoying, even if only for 1 min out of every 10.16:30
IdleOneit has been 3 weeks at least now.16:31
PiciAt least16:31
IdleOneso, clearly our current method is not going to stop him.16:32
CarlFKset up #ubontu that is a channel full of elisa users, re-direct him to that, maybe he won't notice ;)16:34
IdleOnehahaha16:34
CarlFKI wonder if freenode would allow a few eliza bots to PM someone16:36
CarlFKkeep them distracted, maybe they won16:36
CarlFKt bother the public16:36
CarlFKpretty sure this is not a good idea16:36
IdleOnewe need to fix the problem not create more :)16:38
CarlFKthe "my neighbor/coworker/etc got my ip banned" story... think it is ever true?16:42
CarlFKI know it can be, but I am skeptical that all of the things line up: both ubuntu users, use irc, /j #ubuntu in the same time frame, same isp, similar tech level - and not understanding that we don't believe it.16:45
ikoniaPici: I can help you with ISP abuse reports, done some a few times16:55
Piciikonia: Any results?16:56
ikoniaPici: not started yet, there are two ways of going about this, I'll build a little report tonight from BT and try the easy route17:11
ikoniaPici: yes, I've had results, few people lost their ISP contract, I've got a report ready for Jungli's Indian ISP and I've lodged a complaint against his current shell proivder17:12
ubottuPeace- called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (Guest46511)17:26
oCeanhi there17:31
oCeananyone care to explain kamcio2603_ in #u why he should use -ot? And that he really has to start behaving?17:31
oCeanthx17:32
LarsTorbenhi pici17:36
IdleOnehello LarsTorben17:37
LarsTorbenmy neighbour told am unbanned17:37
LarsTorbenthank you very much17:37
LarsTorbeni will behave noww17:37
IdleOnehold a moment17:37
IdleOneWe will let you join #ubuntu but please follow the !guidelines and !codeofconduct17:37
LarsTorbenok thanks17:37
LarsTorben!guidelines17:37
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines17:37
IdleOnelike I said earlier if the abusive behaviour continues we will be forced to report it to your ISP17:38
LarsTorbenok17:38
IdleOnethank you.17:38
LarsTorbeni will read them now17:38
LarsTorbenand come back if i readyy17:38
IdleOneLarsTorben: that is fine. I appreciate you coming here to speak with us.17:38
LarsTorbenthanks cu17:39
IdleOneoCean: what's up?17:39
oCeanoh right, <kamcio2603 now starts trolling in -ot17:39
IdleOneok. thanks17:40
PiciIdleOne: Let me know if you need a hand17:42
IdleOnehe seems to be digging his own grave17:42
PiciIndeed.17:42
LrsTorbenhello17:48
IdleOnehello17:49
LrsTorbenread everything ;D17:49
IdleOneany questions?17:50
IdleOneconcerning the guidelines or the code of conduct?17:50
LrsTorbenno it was very easily to understand, althought i have got a very bad english ;D:17:50
LrsTorben 17:50
jpdsWirklich.17:51
LrsTorbenthank you17:51
IdleOneThat is fine, we have many users from all over the world. What is important is that we can all cooperate with mutual respect of each other and the rules.17:51
ubottuLjL2 called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()17:51
jpdsNot sure if I said something wrong.17:52
IdleOneWirklich == really17:53
IdleOnemaybe he took it bad?17:53
jpdsMaybe.17:58
IdleOneI think it's just his way to leave mid convo heh17:58
LarsTorbenhello idleone18:15
LarsTorbeni cant write anythin in #ubuntu18:15
LarsTorbensincee changing my nick to LarsTorben18:15
=== CarlFK1 is now known as CarlFK
=== LarsTorben is now known as Larstorbe
ikoniaLarstorbe: I'll have a look now18:23
Larstorbeok thankss18:23
ikoniaLarstorbe: could you swap back to LarsTorben please and try to talk18:24
=== Larstorbe is now known as LarsTorben
LarsTorben[19:24] <LarsTorben> test [19:24] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu18:24
ikoniaok, checking18:24
LarsTorbenIdleOne: 19:25] == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu18:26
LarsTorbenworkjs18:26
ikoniatensorpudding: hello18:26
LarsTorbenthanks18:26
ikonianice one IdleOne18:26
tensorpuddingcan i get unbanned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?18:26
ikoniaI couldn't see it18:26
ikoniatensorpudding: give me a minute to have a look18:26
ikoniais your connection stable now ?18:27
ikonia(you where removed due to a flapping connection)18:27
tensorpuddingit'd seem so18:27
ikoniatensorpudding: ok, bans from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic removed18:28
tensorpuddingi've been connected since then and it hasn't acted up18:28
IdleOneikonia: there are so many bans on him it is hard to find them all18:28
Piciikonia: thanks19:01
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nikoyou should look at Murdox21:26
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