[00:38] <skoubri> hello, i need help with installing xubuntu on a laptop. could anybody help?
[00:54] <bin_bash> skoubri: be more specific
[00:55] <skoubri> bin_bash, it fails installing the base system.
[00:55] <bin_bash> skoubri: are you upgrading? clean-installing? what errors are you getting?
[00:56] <skoubri> its a clean installation, dual boot. with win xp pre-installed. lemme check and give u the errors exactly.
[00:57] <skoubri> 1. failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc
[00:57] <skoubri> 2. debootstrap program exited with an error
[00:58] <skoubri> 3. the base installation into /target/ failed.
[00:58] <skoubri> thats the three screens i get
[00:58] <skoubri> 4th screen is telling me that installation step failed
[01:00] <skoubri> and then it gets me back to the installer main menu
[01:00] <xubuntu098> I am doing the Xubuntu install and its really slow.  What do I do o wise gurus of everything buntu?
[01:01] <bin_bash> skoubri: did you partition your drive?
[01:01] <skoubri> yes
[01:01] <skoubri> i used the guided partition 20% of my hdd
[01:02] <bin_bash> when you run the installer, does it recognize that xp is installed?
[01:03] <skoubri> im not sure. how do i check?
[01:05] <skoubri> i remember something about a pre-existing os tho when i did the partitioning. im just not sure if i saw xp on the screen tho.
[01:12] <xaemonic> hey guys adobe air wouldent install dofus because gtk warning couldent find module in ubuntu looks or some bs
[01:12] <xaemonic> can someone help me?
[01:13] <Soupermanito> adobe air is a linux app?
[01:13] <Soupermanito> O:
[01:14] <xaemonic> yep
[01:14] <xaemonic> guess so lolz
[01:14] <xaemonic> i have it installed atm
[01:15] <xaemonic>  hey guys adobeair wouldent install dofus because gtk-warning **: unable to locate theme engine in module_path : "ubuntulooks"
[01:15] <xaemonic> thats the error
[01:19] <Soupermanito> sorry can't help
[01:19] <xaemonic> :(
[01:21] <Soupermanito> try to: >sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[01:22] <Soupermanito> after doing an >sudo apt-get update
[01:22] <Soupermanito> always update
[01:24] <Towzzer> anyone know how to change the popup delay on the panel
[01:29] <bluenail> Greetings, can anyone direct me to a good resource on setting up a mulit-headed display for an extended desktop in Xubuntu 11.04?
[01:30] <bluenail> *multi-headed
[01:31] <bluenail> (Or tell me the stupid-easy way if I'm overlooking something obvious)
[01:48] <gogeta1> :)
[02:36] <xaemonic> Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks" do i need to download the old theme engine???? someone plz help!!!
[02:43] <Soupermanito> try to: >sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[02:43] <xaemonic> that dont work
[02:43] <xaemonic> dosent exist
[02:44] <Soupermanito> oh, well amh search for ubuntulooks on synaptic
[02:44] <xaemonic> gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:44] <xaemonic> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:44] <xaemonic> is only available from another source
[02:44] <xaemonic> However, the following packages replace it:
[02:44] <xaemonic>   human-theme
[02:44] <xaemonic> it cant be found on synaptic
[02:44] <xaemonic> its gone.
[02:44] <xaemonic> was replaced by some thing called human theme
[02:45] <xaemonic> how do i downgrade to the old version?
[02:49] <bin_bash> you do a clean install of the old version
[02:49] <Towzzer> when in doubt a format fixes all
[02:50] <bin_bash> ^
[02:50] <Towzzer> be careful of hard core linux guys who never restart  or upgrade
[02:50] <Towzzer> It takes 10 mins to install xubuntu
[03:04] <jon5000> help.  I am using xubuntu, just uninstalled compiz and now havve no window manager.  worse, the window decorations dont include any buttons and I cant move them around.  can anyone help?
[03:15] <socratesxd> This is a good distro
[03:15] <socratesxd> and xfce is so light...
[03:40] <Josesordo> =)
[04:21] <Towzzer> I agree
[04:21] <Towzzer> ever since gnome turned into vista
[04:21] <Towzzer> and ubuntu turned into ipad
[04:25] <Soupermanito> lol
[04:27] <bin_bash> If my computer is continually freezing, where do i check
[04:28] <Soupermanito> freezing?
[04:29] <Soupermanito> you are doing something when it freezes?
[04:29] <bin_bash> yeah
[04:29] <bin_bash> i think it's skype
[04:29] <bin_bash> that's doing it
[04:29] <Soupermanito> moving files for example?
[04:29] <bin_bash> no
[04:29] <bin_bash> just using skype
[04:29] <Soupermanito> or playing video?
[04:29] <bin_bash> JUST
[04:29] <bin_bash> USING
[04:29] <bin_bash> SKYPE
[04:29] <bin_bash> i was just selecting some text
[04:30] <bin_bash> and the whole thign froze
[04:30] <Soupermanito> calm down bro, skype uses video for video calls
[04:30] <bin_bash> just selecting text
[04:33] <Soupermanito> run skype from a terminal and see if it dumps some error logs
[04:33] <bin_bash> ok
[04:33] <bin_bash> nope
[04:34] <Soupermanito> did it freezed? do the selecting stuff
[04:34] <bin_bash> no it's fine since rebooting
[04:35] <KM0201> you still having issues w/ skype?
[04:35] <bin_bash> KM0201: bro
[04:35] <bin_bash> this morning
[04:35] <bin_bash> lol
[04:35] <KM0201> lol
[04:35] <bin_bash> i was using skype
[04:35] <bin_bash> and the screen turned black
[04:35] <bin_bash> and there was just a curson
[04:35] <bin_bash> and i had to hardboot
[04:36] <bin_bash> and then when i rebooted it froze right away
[04:36] <KM0201> hmm
[04:36] <bin_bash> abd then i couldnt log in
[04:36] <bin_bash> lolol
[04:36] <KM0201> dang macs.
[04:36] <KM0201> lol
[04:36] <bin_bash> stfu
[04:36] <bin_bash> and then
[04:36] <KM0201> lol
[04:36] <bin_bash> i had to delete a few xfiles
[04:36] <bin_bash> XFILES
[04:37] <bin_bash> .ICEauthority
[04:37] <bin_bash> X0-lock
[04:37] <bin_bash> Xauthority
[04:37] <bin_bash> lol
[04:37] <bin_bash> and then just now
[04:37] <bin_bash> i was selectign text in skype
[04:37] <bin_bash> and it froze
[04:38] <KM0201> hmm
[04:38] <KM0201> that is weird
[04:38] <bin_bash> iknortie
[04:42] <KM0201> iknortie?  is that supposed to be i know?
[04:47] <bin_bash> iknorite == I know, isn't that correct?
[04:48] <KM0201> oh..lol,
[04:49]  * KM0201 doesn't know l33t sp34k
[04:50] <bin_bash> lulz
[05:01] <ball> There, that's got Xubuntu installed.
[05:08] <Towzzer> congratz
[05:08] <Towzzer> it's a nice system
[05:08] <Towzzer> very fast
[05:08] <Towzzer> how an os should be
[05:09] <ball> It may be my favorite of the Linux systems I've tried so far.
[05:10] <Towzzer> yeah
[05:10] <Soupermanito> :D awesome
[05:10] <Soupermanito> welcome to the team
[05:12] <KM0201> bin_bash: maybe you should file a bug on that... (although not sure how much good it would do)
[05:12] <ball> I'm using 10.10.  11.4 didn't like my hardware
[05:12] <bin_bash> i want to check my logs
[05:12] <Towzzer> linux hates hardware
[05:12] <KM0201> bin_bash: unfortunately i don't know how to do that.
[05:12] <KM0201> my guess would be, if the screen would black, the xorg.log would be pretty revealing
[05:13] <KM0201> bin_bash: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[05:13] <bin_bash> >gnome
[05:13] <bin_bash> lol
[05:13] <bin_bash> oh yeahhhh i forogt
[05:13] <KM0201> bin_bash: gnome and xfce are pretty closely related, i'm guessing it'll still work w/ xfce.. or did you try it?
[05:14] <bin_bash> no i just forgot where the logs are stored
[05:15] <KM0201> oh
[05:24] <Towzzer> xfce is now what gnome used to be
[05:25] <Towzzer> and soon xfce will be bloated and we'll have to find another desktop
[05:25] <Towzzer> it's the circle of os's
[05:26] <Soupermanito> >implying xfce is an OS
[05:26] <ball> Towzzer: Except neither Gnome nor Xfce is an OS ;-)
[05:26] <Towzzer> I know but I couldn't think of a single word
[05:27] <Towzzer> you get my point :D
[05:27] <Towzzer> please don't attack me
[05:27] <Soupermanito> not attacking you, just pointing and laughing
[05:30] <ball> I may be back in a bit, if this coffee works.
[05:44] <Towzzer> sometimes coffe puts me to sleep
[05:50] <ball> Life puts me to sleep.
[05:51] <xaemonic> lol
[05:51] <xaemonic> install slackware thattel keep u awake
[05:51] <xaemonic> good times installing everything module by module lolz
[05:51] <ball> /dev/sda1              3852224   2466816   1189724  68% /
[05:55] <ball> I should really buy a hard disk for this... or perhaps a laptop.
[06:28] <kr0ni> What's the pastebin at paste.ubuntu.com for/do?
[06:35] <psycho_oreos> pasting large amounts of lines for helpers or others to view without pasting large lines on here thus flooding the channel
[06:35] <psycho_oreos> e.g. outputs from dmesg, lspci, lshal, lshw, etc, etc, etc
[06:35] <kr0ni> that makes sense, thanks
[06:35] <psycho_oreos> nw
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> usually 3 lines or more being pasted into channel within a short manner of time is considered as flooding and somewhat being frowned upon in a IRC support channel
[06:42] <kuatoAR> Hello, i have a problem, I've updated xubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 , I've added 2 action buttons to the upper panel, Turn Off and Rebbot, but when i click on them they only send me to the change session screen, any help on that ?
[06:48] <Towzzer> xubuntu rocks
[06:51] <ali1234> how can i turn off icons in application menus but keep icons on the start menu?
[07:07] <bin_bash> Skype did it again
[07:07] <bin_bash> turned the screen black
[07:08] <bin_bash> froze everything
[07:08] <ball> That reminds me, I should probably install Skype
[07:08] <bin_bash> i think i need to purge it
[07:09] <ball> brb, rebooting
[07:14] <Towzzer> I sorta like skype
[07:14] <Towzzer> sometimes it fails
[07:14] <Towzzer> calls don't connect it's weir
[07:14] <Towzzer> d
[07:15] <bin_bash> well it would be great if it wasnt FUBAR
[07:20] <kuatoAR> @_@
[07:20] <Towzzer> I like landlines
[07:21] <Towzzer> even cell phones are annoying to talk on
[07:21] <Towzzer> so small
[07:21] <bin_bash> so i purged skype
[07:21] <bin_bash> and when i reinstalled it
[07:21] <bin_bash> my stuff was still therwe
[07:21] <bin_bash> wtf
[07:21] <Towzzer> yeah
[07:21] <Towzzer> purge isn't even full-proof
[07:21] <Towzzer> they need to make a super purge
[07:23] <bin_bash> sudo apt-get UBERPURGE
[07:23] <ball> Xubuntu 10.10 (amd64) doesn't seem to give me a suspend or hibernate option.
[07:24] <kuatoAR> ball i have a similar problem
[07:25] <kuatoAR> with xubuntu 11.04
[07:25] <ball> amd64 or i386>
[07:25] <ball> ?
[07:25] <kuatoAR> my Turn Off and reboot actions buttons just sends me to the session change screen
[07:25] <kuatoAR> i386
[07:26] <kuatoAR> then i need to click on the Turn Off button again
[07:29] <Towzzer> that happens to me
[07:29] <Towzzer> did you sudo to root?
[07:30] <Towzzer> I think you issue a reboot if other users are logged in
[07:30] <Towzzer> but that button doesn't show you the notice
[07:30] <Towzzer> just logs you off
[07:33] <ali1234> anyone ever used xfce in virtualbox with two virtual monitors?
[07:33] <ball> Goodnight evenryone
[07:34] <bin_bash> hey guys
[07:34] <bin_bash> how do you rm a directory
[07:35] <bin_bash> nm
[07:36] <bin_bash> wow
[07:44] <bin_bash> is there a way to get rid of the update checker in the top panel without getting rid of the other notificiations?
[07:49] <bin_bash> HAHA GOT IT
[08:08] <bin_bash> what does a kernel panic look like
[08:50] <Shimi_Chen> I have removed the "Window Buttons" from the top panel and now the date and notification stuff are stuck on the left. dragging them to the right only makes them rightmost among the left side. How can I get them back to the right?
[08:53] <Sysi> Shimi_Chen: add separator, set it to ne invisible and expanding
[09:01] <bin_bash> okay so when doing a video call i get a kernel panic
[10:09] <iridium> hi, I have a small problem, after the latest pidgin update from ubuntu, it works fine, but the notification icon on the task bar changed, and it doesn't update like before, showing the status or if somenoe answered, anyone knows anything about this?
[13:40] <k_sze> Anybody getting frequent update manager problems?
[13:45] <knome> k_sze, problems as in?
[13:45] <knome> k_sze, with what version of xubuntu?
[13:45] <k_sze> natty
[13:46] <k_sze> I suddenly start to get this error (again - this is my second clean reinstall of xubuntu): 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[13:48] <k_sze> Hmm, upon opening the file in question, I think it has to do with my stupid ISP's DNS.
[13:49] <k_sze> (my ISP hijacks failed DNS lookups)
[13:49] <k_sze> So do I just delete the /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages file?
[13:50] <knome> k_sze, try running 'sudo apt-get update' in terminal and see what that gives?
[13:52] <k_sze> same error.
[13:53] <k_sze> even though I can manually execute 'host extras.ubuntu.com' and get 'extras.ubuntu.com has address 91.189.88.33' as response!
[13:53] <knome> k_sze, have you googled? (i haven't seen that error yet)
[13:58] <k_sze> ya, I think removing the bad files and then 'sudo apt-get update' again fixes it.
[14:00] <k_sze> my isp is getting on my nerves
[14:00] <k_sze> really unreliable name server
[14:00] <Thermi> k_sze use another name server?
[14:00] <k_sze> ya, I'm trying to configure my router to use google's
[14:01] <k_sze> hopefully google's name servers don't hijack failed lookups.
[14:02] <k_sze> router doesn't seem to allow me to
[14:02] <k_sze> I'll just configure my machines one by one then.
[14:05] <k_sze> how do I do that in Xubuntu Natty again? Which file do I edit? I keep forgetting. XD
[14:06] <k_sze> resolv.conf, right?
[14:10] <k_sze> Is there a dns cache even if I don't have ncsd installed?
[14:15] <k_sze> I mean nscd
[14:16] <k_sze> yay, no more error.
[15:39] <dusf> hello, I am having a lot of problems with my desktop, window manager and the system reporting multiple drivers are in use and/or active but not in use
[15:40] <dusf> please see the screenshot on my post of a few minutes ago http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10791486#post10791486
[15:47] <Sysi> Omilla aivoil
[15:47] <Sysi> whops
[15:48] <Sysi> xfce-terminals fault, pasting in same button that opening links
[15:49] <dusf> Sysi: i followed your instructions yesterday on removing nautilus but things seem even worse now...
[16:02] <drc> dusf: I'm confused...Let's see if I have the chronology straight.
[16:04] <drc> 1) You installed Ubuntu (and/or) upgraded to 11.04; 2) Decided to try/use Xubuntu.
[16:04] <drc> dusf: How did you install Xubuntu...just install Xubuntu-desktop?
[16:04] <drc> Over the ubuntu install?
[16:20] <bin_bash> Hello.
[16:20] <drc> oh no...more problems ;)
[16:21] <bin_bash> I've found that videochatting on skype is causing a kernel panic when both of us are using our cams
[16:21] <drc> Moring bin_bash
[16:27] <vabigoon> hi guys, is that possible to change the default number of lines to scroll by mouse wheel?
[16:31] <bin_bash> wow
[16:31] <bin_bash> Okay
[16:32] <bin_bash> My problem is that videochatting on skype is causing a kernel panic
[16:44] <dusf> drc: latest ubuntu install was 10.10 a few weeks ago, used online upgrade to 11.04 and then not liking the new interface installed xubuntu
[16:45] <dusf> drc: because of all the problems i have now formatted my / partition and put fresh Xubuntu 11.04 from a cd there, but keeping my same /home partition
[16:45] <dusf> by my reasoning that should me the problem isn't something in my home partition affecting / ?
[17:01] <bin_bash> anyone?
[17:04] <Unit193> bin_bash: (I came in late) Did you check any logs in /var/log/ ?
[17:06] <dusf> hello, I am having a lot of problems with my desktop, window manager and the system reporting multiple drivers are in use and/or active but not in use
[17:06] <dusf> please see the screenshot on my post of a few minutes ago http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10791486#post10791486
[18:02] <Xornot> Xubuntu is not using my nVidia non-free driver, even though it is installed and working. Any ideas on getting it working under Xubuntu?
[18:03] <Sysi> Xornot: if it works, don't care what app for activating it says
[18:04] <Xornot> It works, but no acceleration.
[18:04] <Xornot> It's not using the non-free driver for some reason. Ubuntu does, but Xubuntu isn't. No idea why.
[18:18] <Soupermanito> Xornot, uninstall it, reboot, reinstall it, reboot
[18:18] <Xornot> rgr
[18:19] <Xornot> I love how rebooting is not a chore - like in windows. LOL LOL
[18:19] <Soupermanito> for video drivers related problems its something you have to bare
[18:20] <Xornot> sounds like a plan. ty
[18:39] <dusf> Xornot: i have a similar problem
[18:39] <dusf> Xornot: how do you know it's using it, and what output does lspci -k give?
[18:39] <Xornot> oh yah?
[18:39] <dusf> Xornot: yes, additional drivers tells me the driver 'nvidia (current)' is active but not in use
[18:41] <drc> dusf: Have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.conf  to see exactly which driver you are using?  The "not in use" text appears to be a bug in jockey-gtk.
[18:42] <dusf> drc: i did, a few days ago
[18:43] <drc> dusf: Did you ever solve your "hybrid" problem?
[18:43] <cgtdk> If my desktop with Xubuntu 11.04 is left idle for some time, it will slow to a crawl or completely freeze. Anyone have similiar problems?
[18:43] <dusf> drc: no, no resolution even post install
[18:43] <dusf> drc: i replied to you but you had left, standby
[18:44] <drc> dusf: I waited for a while, but did have to be afk
[18:45] <dusf> drc: np at all
[18:45] <dusf> drc: http://pastebin.com/57jHbhBm
[18:45] <dusf> drc: it's got to be something in my /home partition since / is a fresh install, right?
[18:46] <dusf> the hybrid and driver problem?
[18:47] <drc> dusf: I think they're two different problems.
[18:48] <dusf> drc: yes but both of which could be caused by something/settings in /home partition?
[18:50] <drc> dusf: When I re-install (or install another distro) with a separate /home, I <always> clear out the ~ of <all> hiden/dot files and folders (this leaves things like Documents/Music/Videos, etc intact but deletes all user config files).before re-installing.
[18:51] <dusf> i've already migrated all my media to my new 'DUMP' partition
[18:51] <drc> It's a bit of a PITA sometimes, but I never get any problems with user config files that way (nautilus vs thunar)
[18:52] <dusf> so i hope to do a xubunut install with a new formatted /home partition tomorrow
[18:52] <dusf> in fact since all my media is now on the DUMP partition i'm just going to combine / and /home on one 15gb part
[18:53] <dusf> drc: so is thunar the default file manager, and do you see how it looks different for me?
[18:54] <drc> dusf: thunar is the default FM on a vanilla xfce/xubuntu  install.
[18:56] <dusf> drc: do you think the fresh install with a formatted /home will fix everything?
[18:58] <drc> dusf: You have you data backed up to another partition )but <not> the DOT files and folders ?
[18:59] <drc> If that's the case, yes I think your problems should be solved by a >clean> install...format the / and /home partitions, install and update.  Then let's check the nvidia driver problem...<then> move the data back from the DUMP partition
[19:01] <Soupermanito> Xornot, did rebooting fix the problem?
[19:03] <drc> dusf: Do NOT install the Additional Drivers until <after> you have finished with all the updates....just in case :)
[19:07] <dusf> drc: see the plan is to keep all media on the dump partition
[19:07] <dusf> that way i can have a fixed size ubuntu, win xp, windows 7, and later mac os partitions
[19:07] <dusf> have symlinks set up for windows 7 so my documents and program files already redirects to DUMP, much easier to do with xubunty
[19:07] <dusf> xbuntu
[19:08] <drc> planning to be busy, aren't you ;)
[19:08] <dusf> 'dual boot, what is this dual boot of which you speak? i quad boot' ;)
[19:09] <drc> 4 times the boots, 16 time the problems....
[19:13] <Xornot> Soupermanito, I'm working on some other stuff right now. I'll do the reinstallation/boot/reboot etc later today. ty for the help!
[19:13] <Soupermanito> :) you're welcome, hope it works XD
[19:16] <dusf> drc: yeah, but chicks dig it
[19:20] <dol> Does somebody have the same issue with  xfce4-notifyd and displaying HTML tag from Banshee 2.0 on Natty?
[19:34] <Sysi> dol: yup
[19:35] <Sysi> i solved it by taking off banshee notifications
[19:38] <dusf> i curse mac os for not only refusing to make an linux native itunes version, but by trying to make it even more difficult for those who happen to get it running
[19:38] <dusf> s/mac os/apple
[19:39] <dol> Sysi, Where can I find this option?
[19:40] <Sysi> right click on icon on notification area
[19:42] <dol> Sysi, Easy as that. Thx
[20:26] <Towzzer> Can you decrease the popup delay of the panels
[21:07] <drc>   /clear
[21:09] <Aleksander> Hello :) I have a problem with Xubuntu 11.04 - Banshee music player doesn't have a tray icon, and I don't know how can I force it to have.
[21:10] <Sysi> you need to have notification area in your panel and banshee trayicon plugin enabled
[21:10] <drc> Aleksander: Define "tray icon" a bit more precise.
[21:10] <drc> or what Sysi said
[21:10] <Aleksander> just a moment, I was sure I had that one...
[21:11] <Aleksander> ok. it got unchecked during re-installation. my fault
[21:11] <bin_bash> LOL THAT WAS FUN!
[21:12] <Aleksander> and next question: how can I make xfce4-mixer change volume when I roll a mousewheel over it? now it does change the icon, but the audio itself is unaffected
[21:12] <drc> bin_bash: It's well known you a seriously flawed sense of fun...what this time?
[21:12] <dusf> drc: wish me luck
[21:12] <bin_bash> Well randomly, out of nowhere, the system froze and the song that was playing got caught in an infinite loop of the part that was playing when the freeze happened
[21:13] <bin_bash> I let it sit for 6 minutes, hoping it would unfreeze
[21:13] <bin_bash> then i couldn't take it anymore
[21:13] <bin_bash> and hard booted
[21:13] <bin_bash> ran dpkg
[21:13] <bin_bash> and fsck from recovery
[21:13] <axt> I'm having a lot of trouble installing natty on my eeepc seashell, esp with wireless, but also the trackpad is working point to point, like a graphics tablet. Anyone can help?
[21:13] <drc> bin_bash: And now you have Win95 running?
[21:13] <bin_bash> AHAHAHAHA no.
[21:13] <bin_bash> Still using natty.
[21:14] <bin_bash> But thinking of doing a clean install.
[21:14] <bin_bash> Ever since I updated two days ago, I've been having weird problems.
[21:14] <debussy> hello... I am having an issue with the notification area. I use tint2 as a replacement for xfce-panel, but neither sound nor nm-applet show up in tint2. Guess this is because now indicators are used for them?! How can I solve this?
[21:15] <drc> bin_bash: IMO, unless you are specifically trying to learn something (like <why> something happened or <what> you di to make it happen, then I'm a great fan of re-installs...usually quicker and cleaner.
[21:15] <bin_bash> Well, I'd really like to AVOID reinstalling
[21:15] <bin_bash> But I'm looking at the logs
[21:15] <bin_bash> and honestly
[21:15] <Sysi> debussy: both should work on basic systray too
[21:15] <bin_bash> I don't know what I'm looking for
[21:16] <Sysi> Aleksander: set it to have right channel
[21:16] <debussy> Sysi, thx... then it seems that the problem is somewhere else :(
[21:16] <Aleksander> Sysi, already done that and I can set the volume inside xfce4-mixer, but the icon doesn't change anything except of its look
[21:17] <Sysi> Aleksander: right click on icon and change chanel it's using, pulseaudio master propably
[21:17] <Aleksander> Sysi, ow, so the icon's a different app?
[21:17] <Aleksander> thanks
[21:18] <Aleksander> and see you :)
[21:19] <bin_bash> drc: Which logs should I look at, and wtf am I looking FOR
[21:21] <Sysi> bin_bash: cat /var/log/syslog | grep -i warning (or error) && dmesg with same grep
[21:21] <Sysi> grep filters output, with | output is piped to it
[21:22] <bin_bash> yeah
[21:22] <bin_bash> thanks
[21:22] <bin_bash> i'm familiar with grep, i just dont know wat i'm looking for
[21:24] <Sysi> something with caps :P
[21:24] <bin_bash> [   40.084240] [drm:intel_dsm_pci_probe] *ERROR* failed to get supported _DSM functions
[21:24] <bin_bash> that shows up a couple times
[21:26] <Sysi> that *could* explain videocam problems and other issues.. but i'm not really sure how to fix
[21:26] <Sysi> you could try reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:27] <Sysi> or it's acpi issue and i have no idea
[21:27] <axt> I'm having a lot of trouble installing natty on my eeepc seashell, esp with wireless, but also the trackpad is working point to point, like a graphics tablet. Anyone can help?
[21:28] <bin_bash> lol oh god
[21:28] <bin_bash> now it says it can't find alsamixer
[21:29] <Sysi> axt: post output of 'lspci' to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <Sysi> (and give url here)
[21:30] <Sysi> bin_bash: do you have multiple kernels? you could try booting to other one
[21:30] <bin_bash> no
[21:30] <axt> Sysi: and what will that do? I'm not doing very well with xubuntu yet
[21:30] <Sysi> axt: lists your hardware
[21:31] <drc> axt: What's the model number?
[21:31] <bin_bash> I can't open synaptic package manager
[21:31] <bin_bash> oh this is interesting
[21:31] <Sysi> reboot
[21:32]  * drc looks to find his LiveUSB to hand to bin_bash  ;)
[21:32] <bin_bash> >failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root
[21:32] <bin_bash> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[21:32] <Sysi> bin_bash: what hardware you got?
[21:32] <bin_bash> MacbookPro 13" 8,1
[21:32] <bin_bash> this is a brand new issue
[21:32] <axt> I'm not using that computer, wireless is totally shot, manager doesn't even show up. model is 1015px
[21:33] <Sysi> bin_bash: newest? i'm gonna get 13" too
[21:33] <bin_bash> Don't.
[21:33] <Sysi> axt: you need to be on computer to fix it :P
[21:34] <Sysi> bin_bash: not for linux use actually..
[21:34] <bin_bash> oh
[21:34] <bin_bash> then do it
[21:34] <bin_bash> it's a nice computer
[21:34] <bin_bash> if you're not using linux
[21:34] <Sysi> thinkpad X220 could be an option but then i would propably be stuck with windows for some months..
[21:35] <bin_bash> this is so weird
[21:35] <bin_bash> i can run alsamixer without sudo
[21:35] <bin_bash> sound doesn't work out of the speakers
[21:37] <Sysi> bin_bash: what works/doesn't work on linux on that MBP?
[21:37] <bin_bash> nothing works
[21:37] <bin_bash> NOTHING
[21:37] <bin_bash> IT'S HORRIBLE
[21:37] <bin_bash> HORRRIBLE
[21:38] <bin_bash> actually
[21:38] <bin_bash> the graphics work
[21:38] <bin_bash> and the sound was working
[21:38] <Sysi> (less enter, could you)
[21:38] <bin_bash> eveyrhting was working
[21:38] <Sysi> multitouch, some networking?
[21:38] <bin_bash> sorry. everything was working until I updated the other day. Now nothing works.
[21:38] <bin_bash> SOME networking. No wireless.
[21:38] <axt> I mean that I'm not on the internet on that one. Ethernet cable is so far away....
[21:38] <Sysi> axt: do you have updates installed on it?
[21:39] <bin_bash> brb
[21:39] <Sysi> ..in the other hand there haven't been any kernel updates
[21:40] <axt> I literally just installed natty and network manager isn't showing, so I'm trying to fix the trackpad and similar first
[21:42] <bin_bash_> Okay. THAT'S interesting.
[21:43] <bin_bash> As I was saying.
[21:43] <bin_bash> That's VERY interesting.
[21:44] <bin_bash> Don't you guise want to know what's so interesting?
[21:44] <axt> yes, yes, we do
[21:44] <bin_bash> Apparently
[21:45] <axt> (that doesn't mean I, at least, will understand what's interesting you)
[21:45] <bin_bash> When you do startxfce4 from the console after booting into recovery mode and running dpkg and fsck you don't have access to everything, and it acts as if it's still in recovery mode.
[21:46] <bin_bash> Which explains why I couldn't use reboot or shut down or hear sound
[21:48] <Sysi> consolekit fail i think
[21:48] <axt> what is different about recovery mode?
[21:48] <bin_bash> Sysi: yep
[21:48] <bin_bash> But it explains why I had to sudo everything, and why things appeared to be working, but weren't actually.
[21:49] <bin_bash> tbh, I'm a little scared to try skype again though
[21:49] <bin_bash> I reckon I'm going to have to get my boyfriend to get Ekiga
[21:56] <bin_bash> i wonder about running skype through wine lol
[21:58] <axt> is wine generally the best way to run windows programs? Does it work well with photoshop?
[21:59] <Sysi> depends on photoshop version, check winehq.org or just google
[21:59] <Sysi> wine is about only way, exept virtualbox
[22:01] <axt> is there a reason to choose one over the other?
[22:01] <Sysi> well, they're totally different things
[22:02] <Sysi> in virtualbox you run actual windows
[22:02] <Sysi> everything works, but performance isn't great
[22:03] <axt> so not good for a notebook
[22:04] <teliti> Hello. Could anyone tell me if the scheme programming gui (former drscheme) racket is available for xubuntu to install?
[22:06] <Sysi> !find racket
[22:07] <Sysi> drscheme website forwards to racket website, that offers version for xubuntu 9.04
[22:08] <Sysi> it's shell script, i'll see what it contains
[22:11] <Telekhan> Hi all, is it possible to use Nautilus to control the desktop in xfce 4.8?
[22:11] <bin_bash> Why?
[22:11] <bin_bash> Why do you want to use Nautilus?
[22:12] <Telekhan> primarily as i'm missing the ability to resize icons independently on the desktop
[22:12] <Telekhan> though i'd be happy to ditch it if i'm able to do something similar otherwise
[22:13] <Sysi> it doesn't take over xfdesktop by just running it?
[22:13] <Telekhan> it doesn't appear to
[22:13]  * drc no longer finds it starnge when some one want to get rid of nautilus in xfce and an hour later someone want to add it....
[22:13] <Telekhan> the desktop flashes, but the things in the desktop directory don't show
[22:13] <teliti> Sysi: thank you :-)
[22:14] <Sysi> teliti: you ran the install script?
[22:15] <teliti> yes, it works. But it seems that there are some help-files missing
[22:17] <Sysi> Telekhan: 'killall xfdesktop' ?
[22:17] <Telekhan> that did it
[22:18] <Telekhan> thanks Sysi, much appreciated
[22:18] <Sysi> save session on logout, if it fails on next login, 'rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions' and then try saving session
[22:20] <pectoral> HI all ... I just ran updates on xubuntu 11.04 x64 and now X won't start
[22:20] <pectoral> Plymouth is failing it appears... no splash at all
[22:20] <pectoral> Anyone see similar problems?
[22:21] <pectoral> FRESH install too ... installed ... ran default updates and boom ... dead
[22:24] <Sysi> pectoral: what graphics card do you have?
[22:37] <bin_bash> I almost want to do a clean install
[22:38] <bin_bash> but dont wanna update
[22:38] <bin_bash> but have to cuz my liveCD/USB is beta2
[22:45] <jannick> hello... i managed to mess up my xubuntu natty installation :(. How can I restore the default settings? I just needs the basic XFCE stuff, that a clean install of xubuntu ships with
[22:46] <pectoral> did u just run updates and now nothing works?
[22:47] <pectoral> cause thats what just happened to me :(
[22:48] <jannick> no... i accidently killed the .config folder when rsynced my backup back to this machine oO
[22:48] <pectoral> oh.  Ouch
[22:48] <pectoral> Yea I don't think theres backups of that unfortunately
[22:48] <pectoral> unless you made oen
[22:48] <pectoral> you can try renaming it
[22:48] <pectoral> and tehn restarting xfce4-session or whatever
[22:49] <pectoral> ... or just service gdm restart if yu wanna be quick about it
[22:49] <bin_bash> pectoral: when you try to login to X hat problem are you having?
[22:49] <bin_bash> Does the login screen load?
[22:50] <pectoral> I get plymouth failed error in orange... it stops at runlevel 2
[22:50] <pectoral> never gets to 5
[22:50] <pectoral> startx says no displays foudn ... :(
[22:51] <bin_bash> hm
[22:51] <pectoral> but nvidia module loads and stuff
[22:51] <bin_bash> try startxfce4
[22:51] <jannick> pectoral, I managed to get XFCE running again, but all the basic stuff is missing, like the xubuntu theme, autostart etc. I just want the basic config files back that are set up when you first login, this stuff must be somewhere on the system?
[22:51] <pectoral> honestly this is the second screwup with 11.04 so im going back to what i know in 10.10
[22:51] <pectoral> err 10.04
[22:52] <pectoral> I'm burnt out on messing with jacked installs today
[22:52] <bin_bash> pectoral: did you try to update from 10.04 or do a clean install?
[22:52] <pectoral> fresh install.
[22:52] <pectoral> my xorg.conf had jumbled bus IDs for ym display adapter tho
[22:53] <pectoral> i think thats the problem
[22:53] <bin_bash> probably
[22:53] <pectoral> (after running nvidia-xconfig)
[22:53] <pectoral> X -configure ... or Xorg -configure ... whichever... failed
[22:53] <pectoral> for the same thing as well.
[22:54] <pectoral> somethign was goofy there so im jsut clean installing 10.04 and seeing what happens.  Im starting to hate my life
[22:56] <Liv-> is it better to update or do a clean install?
[22:57] <bin_bash> clean install always
[22:59]  * drc wants Xubuntu to turn to a rolling release :(
[22:59] <Liv-> I thought so
[23:09] <bin_bash> I'm going to try to install xubuntu on my toaster and then my vaccuum
[23:10] <drc> bin_bash: Wrong...vacuum first...then the toaster...it takes advantage of the laws of thermodynamics.
[23:10] <bin_bash> oooh ok
[23:11] <bin_bash> Do you think I'll have enough RAM?
[23:12] <drc> Dunno...I heard that toasters dont use much RAM...but to create a decent vacuum requires at least 2TB of RAM.
[23:12] <bin_bash> hmmmmm okay
[23:13] <drc> Yeah, vacuum RAM sucks.
[23:41] <Towzzer> is there a touchpad management tool
[23:41] <Towzzer> like
[23:41] <Towzzer> turn off touchpad when external device plugged in
[23:41] <Towzzer> etc
[23:41] <Towzzer> I see the kde one but it's gigantic
[23:41] <Towzzer> and there is gpointing-setting or somethin
[23:42] <Towzzer> but that doesn't work
[23:53] <kavurt> i can't see my video on google talk. i see a black rectangle instead. any idea?