[03:46] will my GeForce 210 dual monitor setup work in 11.04? [04:18] nothing works in ubuntu 11.04 ;) === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:08] iainfarrell: is anyone from design coming to the forums session? [09:08] hey Technoviking yes! I'm on my way, sorry we're having schedule system issues === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [09:31] hi everyone [09:33] I'm wondering if there are sort of "best practices" for debugging Unity === daker_ is now known as daker === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [13:04] !unity [13:04] Unity is the default UI for Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. You can still boot to GNOME see !classic. [13:04] !unity-2d [13:46] any unity developer here? [13:48] !ask [13:48] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [13:48] all the developers are at UDS this week btw [13:49] well most of em [13:49] thank you [13:49] I'm looking for best practices/advice to start debuggin unity [13:50] well like what? [13:50] what's the bug you are trying to find? [13:51] willing to help with those bitesize bugs [13:51] cool [13:51] those usually don't need debugging as such [13:51] that's why they are bitesize [13:51] setting up the enviroment so i was wondering if there are lines i should follow to accomplish this first task [13:52] sudo apt-get build-dep unity is probably a good start [13:52] already did and got the got from repository [13:52] *code [13:52] (repository=bazaar) [13:53] that's about where i am too [13:53] maybe it's a wise choice to run it in a virtual machine? What do you think about? [13:53] has pros and cons [13:53] getting 3D to work inside a VM can be a hassle [13:53] gfx acceleration in virtual machines can be problematic [13:54] so, you can run a local build of unity without installing it, iirc [13:54] it replaces the distro version [13:54] unity --replace works right? [13:54] yes [13:54] and even --replace is optional, just unity does that [13:54] as I've unexpectedly discovered yesterday [13:55] thank you [13:56] --repalce works with compiz and metacity too though [13:57] if you have a second computer eg netbook then that can be good for developing [13:57] especially if you set up synergy to share 1 kb and mouse [13:58] * mgedmin likes x2x and finds synergy too confusing [13:58] another option is to use a guest session and switch between the two with ctrl+alt+F7/F8 === boulabiar is now known as boulabiar| === boulabiar| is now known as boulabiar [14:00] does a different instance of unity run for every user? [14:00] *each user [14:01] er... yes? [14:01] ok [14:04] not sure about all the backend parts though [14:07] gonna check it later [14:07] thank you [14:08] ali1234: what ide do you use? [14:08] none [14:08] i use gedit === iainfarrell is now known as TheDoctor === TheDoctor is now known as iainfarrell === cdbs is now known as cdbs-isnt-good === cdbs-isnt-good is now known as cdbs [17:41] hey all === daker is now known as daker_ [18:38] Hai, are debug packages of libunity available somewhere? [18:52] why some applications not show in unity launcer when running? [18:52] joh: libunity-dev? [18:53] Pretto: bug in the window matching library. bamf, I think. File bugs. :) [18:55] nhaines: libunity-dev doesn't include debugging symbols, as far as I can see...? [20:35] from the unity 3.1.3-0ubuntu1 changelog: "don't ship the -dbg package for now". [20:35] anyone got the know-how on how to build a -dbg package? [21:01] joh, use the dbgsym debs [21:02] fta: ah, thanks! [21:05] fta: any usage instructions? can't seem to find any docs... [21:05] !dbgsym [21:05] dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [21:06] thanks! [21:07] joh, you're welcome