[00:14] not getting and audio [00:14] via [00:14] jack or hdmi [00:15] reboot [00:16] lowinski: wrong input line? [00:16] how so ? [00:16] Sethiroth: check "alsamixer" see if anything is muted [00:17] how [00:17] Sethiroth: open a terminal and run "alsamixer" [00:17] Sethiroth: see if anything has an m under it [00:18] nothing is muted [00:19] thx [00:19] nvm [00:19] :D [00:40] stupid question: have any of you had X (or the session) reboot? [00:40] My only clue: the keyboard scroll lock turns on. Next key I press is *blam* [00:41] Nothing in the log files, not hints of dismay/disgust [00:41] "no hints" [00:42] Natty, x86_64 with nvidia 270.41.06 drive [00:43] Naturaly, everything worked fine previous version === mike is now known as Ar71k [01:09] this rekonq that comes w/ Natty by default is buggy crap [01:10] vzduch: you can always replace it [01:10] James147: of course I can, just wanted to say [01:10] vzduch: or better yet file bug reports to fix the bugs ^^ [01:10] thats the only real way to get anything changed [01:13] while I'm at it.. what's the cleanest way to set up IP masquerading? gotta know that if I should decide to put *buntu on my main machine [01:13] i'm confused, why can't I view disks (sda, sdb, etc.) using fdisk or cfdisk? it returns "Unable to open sdX" [01:13] you mean hiding you ip? [01:13] in openSUSE (just for comparison) that is a case of 2 mouse clicks in the firewall settings [01:14] Spaz_Dynamic: you using /dev/sdx? [01:14] James147: no, I mean hooking up a machine in a LAN behind the main machine to the Internet [01:14] ....fail. [01:14] SOUP [01:14] lol, no, forgot for some reason [01:14] vzduch: so network bridging? [01:15] James147: that too, if I understand "bridging" correctly [01:16] scenario: machine 1 hooked up to DSL modem, 2nd network interface connected to machine 2, and machine 2 wants 'net access too [01:16] vzduch: never looked into it... but I would be very suprised if linux couldnt do it... [01:17] considering I bet quite afew router run linux :d [01:17] James147: of course it can; question is how does *buntu do it? -> [02:13:50] in openSUSE (just for comparison) that is a case of 2 mouse clicks in the firewall settings [01:17] vzduch: :) cant rellany say never looked into it :) [01:18] ...is there anything that would kill a SD card to where I can't even see it to reformat it? [01:18] only thing I could think of here is installing system-config-network & doing it from there [01:18] vzduch: though a quick google search found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269235 [01:21] dayum, system-config-network doesn't exist for *buntu [01:21] or at least not in the main repos [01:23] <[dlp]> Hey all/ [01:24] <[dlp]> I'm having some problems with graphics in Natty. [01:24] <[dlp]> Desktop effect now don't run fast enough to use (they worked before). [01:24] <[dlp]> And GL screensavers won't run. [01:24] using correct gfx driver? [01:25] <[dlp]> When KDE tries to start them, at least. [01:25] <[dlp]> But I can start a GL app (written myself) from the shell, no problem. [01:25] <[dlp]> Yeah, I think so. [01:26] <[dlp]> X is using the Xorg intel driver. [01:26] <[dlp]> The i915 kernel module is loaded. [01:26] <[dlp]> Which is what I have. [01:27] <[dlp]> Ok GL screensavers have started working. [01:28] <[dlp]> But desktop effects are still unusably slow. [01:28] <[dlp]> Have some particularly intensive ones been loaded by default, now, maybe? [01:28] <[dlp]> This computer /is/ quite old. [01:29] <[dlp]> Handled the default settings in 10.04 fine, though. [01:32] <[dlp]> Ok I've stripped it down to the bare minimum and it runs ok with effects resumed. [01:32] Intel.. *ugh* [01:32] <[dlp]> So be aware, all, Natty's default desktop effects settings are significantly more intensive. [01:33] <[dlp]> Indeed. [01:33] * vzduch pats his nVidia card [01:33] [dlp]: Disable/unselect Blur in the desktop effects. [01:33] <[dlp]> I'd love to be able to afford to build a new beast of a machine with SLI GF9800s. [01:33] <[dlp]> But I can't. [01:34] <[dlp]> I have nVidia graphics in one of my other machines. Which stands up very well. But it is also rather old. [01:35] <[dlp]> So Blur is the hugry one, is it? [01:36] [dlp]: Not all Intel GPUs can handle the effects that Blur provides - mine can't. [01:37] anyone a microphone guru? i can't seem to get mine to capture [01:39] <[dlp]> Yeah, that's much better. [01:39] [dlp]: I can use almost all the other effects, just not Blur. [01:44] <[dlp]> Seems the same here. [01:44] <[dlp]> Glide would look smoother on a more powerful GPU. [01:44] <[dlp]> But still passable. [01:52] <[dlp]> Cool. [01:52] <[dlp]> Right. [01:52] <[dlp]> Bed time. === nacover is now known as peer === peer is now known as Nacover [02:39] top === sony is now known as Guest87053 [02:56] anybody use nvidia binaries from repos and experience kwin botching the titlebar with all sorts of anomalies? anyone know what this is? it's the only sign of breakage and makes my titlebar butt ugly [02:59] uninstall the xserver nouveau driver [03:06] gennro: you talking to me? shouldn't it be disabled and not at all interfering? is this a known issue? [03:07] it caused me problems till I removed it [03:09] gennro: I'll try it, thanks :) [03:09] it'll be pretty quick to find out if that is the issue [03:09] yeah I had issues even with the nvidia drivers installed still trying to load the nouvaeu driver [03:11] gennro: ok, I'll be back [03:15] how do I empty my trash on a usb stick? I can't seem to find the option [03:27] my goodness. I don't ever remember virtualbox ever being so sloooow [03:30] gennro: hopefully it works, so far so good [03:31] yeah I had the same issue so hopefully it fixes it for you [03:40] gennro: I think you really put the nail in this frigging coffin... this has been bugging me for so long and the only bug reports I could come up with were from 2009 and they were resolved [03:42] cool...... I really like the effort of the people doing the nouveau drivers..... but man they suck right now [03:42] gennro: yeah man, I'm excited. it sucks staring at broken decorations *all day*... no joke. [03:43] well I am glad to share my experiences to help someone else out [03:44] also if you plan on using any java based apps look into getting sun java installed [03:44] if you need help with that let me know I have a link that helped me [03:45] gennro: if you hang out here, yeah, I might hit ya up for the link. I went through hell trying to get minecraft working on here for my son [03:45] vbgunz: here ya go http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=4847&p=52604#p52604 [03:46] just scroll down to method 2 [03:46] and remove openJDK [03:47] yeah, think im gonna do that tomorrow [03:47] right now im dead tired and really thought asking about the titlebar issue here was a complete shot in the dark [03:47] gennro: thank you very much, very much appreciated! have a good night bud! [03:47] np, later [04:37] is there some command like fstab -l that lists your filesystems? [04:38] Poyntz: fdisk -l? list disks and give filesystems.. [04:38] thats it! thanks [04:38] np [04:40] i tried sudo mount -o loop -t /dev/sda1 /mnt/bob [04:40] it didnt work [04:40] sda1 is windows ntfs [04:41] - n i want to mount it [04:42] also /mnt/bob is an empty directory [04:43] mkquist: how do i mount again? i tried sudo mount -o loop -t /dev/sda1 (my directory) [04:43] you mounting you part from a live cd? [04:43] naa [04:43] Poyntz: you mounting you part from a live cd? [04:44] trying to mount windows 7 [04:44] which is sda1 [04:44] to /mnt/bob [04:44] Poyntz: what are you sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/bob [04:44] Poyntz: like that maybe [04:44] Poyntz: in your fstab? [04:45] Poyntz: you can just mount -a [04:45] oh sda1 isnt it haha [04:45] but that worked thanks [04:46] do you use mount -o loop for CDs? [04:46] Poyntz: np [04:46] Poyntz: just an example [04:46] ahh.. what other stuff do you use it for? [04:49] if you mounting images maybe [04:49] your... [04:50] Poyntz: like a cd image.. [04:50] mkquist: this is really gay.. sda1 (which is like windows boot) mounts fine.. sda2 (which is windows 7) wont mount [04:50] i take that back [04:51] for some weird reason the first time i tried it gave no error msg but didnt mount... [04:51] must be a bug [04:55] mkquist: thanks for your help [05:22] where do i find a list of server names? [05:23] where do i find a list of server names? [05:23] glad to see 100 people are afk [05:24] ProjectFox: Server names for....? [05:24] ah good you can see what im typing [05:24] im new to irc [05:24] i just want to check out other channels [05:24] Ah [05:25] To look at all the channels there are, you can use /list [05:25] But be warned, there's a lot so it will slow down Quassel as it tries to print them all [05:25] whats quassel? [05:25] It's the default irc client in Kubuntu. I just assumed that's what you were using. [05:26] is it better than konversation? [05:26] I haven't used Konversation for a few years. [05:27] I don't have any problem with either of them. I'm not particularly demanding on my IRC software. [05:27] well tyvm im gonna check out the /list feature and do some exploring [05:28] Alright. have fun. :) [05:35] hi! can you tell me, how to connect icq (via kopete) through tor? [05:36] i'm set "use proxy" 127.0.0.1:8118 (my tor-polipo settings), but icq cant connect. [05:36] browser connect via tor fine === mau is now known as Guest53187 [05:42] when i switch workstations on the new OS, system settings pops up and disappears.. [05:42] is there any way to fix this? [05:48] I can't change the order of my input devices, for example making apps like skype use my microphone in my webcam === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [05:51] I just upgraded to natty, and can't find how i configure my suspend button to hibernate instead of sleep. [05:52] I see the settings for the laptop lid, and the power button. [05:52] first thing that comes to mind, you still have swap space, second thing is what is your "preformance" setting? [05:53] or similar [05:53] if it is set to preformance, it might have your computer configured to stay running constantly when plugged in to power [05:53] Spaz_Dynamic: i can't find the _setting_ [05:53] power management? [05:53] it's not there [05:54] only laptop lid and power button [05:56] are you talking suspend button on your computer, or suspend from the menu? [05:57] the suspend button on my computer [05:58] previously i was able to configure it to hibernate, while i was able to set lid close to sleep, but now that seems gone :( [07:20] can you change the placement of windows when they're opened to centre instead of top-left? [07:22] brb [07:37] so, my system panels have all disappeared. i've dropped to cli using ctrl-alt-f1, anyone able to point me in the right direction for getting them back? [07:38] how do you alter the placement of windows so they spawn in the center of the screen instead of the top left corner? === sony is now known as Guest78462 [07:56] hey guys [07:58] guesst78462 hey === coaboa|afk is now known as coaboa === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna [08:28] hi all [08:28] is possible try kde 4.6 on kubuntu 10.04 ? [08:30] ??? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === sony is now known as Guest98390 [09:21] hi === drdanz_home is now known as drdanz [09:27] Hello. Waht is kubuntu's default GUI package manager? [09:28] synaptic, adpet, ...? [09:40] vlt: KPackageKit [09:47] tsimpson: Thank you. [09:57] hello all [10:00] I want to install the build-deps for the oxygen (or another one) theme so i can compile downloaded themes... What is the package name for oxygen? [10:03] Never mind found it thanks! === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === lukas_ is now known as Guest48778 [11:05] hi [11:12] Hi all [11:14] my problem is that when i start camputer i dont get a gui , just aprompt requesting me to login and next i should write "sudo startx" to have a gui . [11:16] does installing a custom version of a .deb prevent update manager from updating that package, or does the custom .deb just get overwritten by the newer official version? [11:16] Moji: _sudo_ startx? are you crazy? [11:17] Moji: rule of thumb: NEVER start X w/ privileges unless there is output that implies lack of permissions [11:19] delac: depends on the version of the custom deb, if it's lower than the version in the repositories then the update manager will want to update it to the latest, if it's higher then it won't update it (until a higher version is released) [11:20] tsimpson: ok, so the custom .deb does not have any special "protection". thanks [11:20] exactly [11:20] (all the package manager does is download the .deb and all the other .debs it needs, after that nothing special happens) [11:22] tsimpson: oh, and I suppose reinstalling the package with synaptic would also replace the custom version with the official version from the repositories, even if the version numbers were equal? [11:23] tsimpson: or do I need to purge the apt cache first? [11:23] yeah [11:23] if you purge the apt cache, apt will just download the .deb from the archive anyway [11:24] if it can't find the .deb file, it'll download it from the archive [11:24] you can use apt pinning to force a package to a fixed version though [11:24] !pinning [11:24] pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto [11:25] tsimpson: ah, thanks. that might come handy [11:30] what should i do ? [11:30] my problem is that when i start camputer i dont get a gui , just aprompt requesting me to login and next i should write "sudo startx" to have a gui . [11:36] find out what the problem is in the first place.. search for error messages ("(EE)") in /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.old), /var/log/kdm.log [12:14] latest kubuntu is a big disappoitnemnt, time for windows7 [12:21] what's the chance of kde releasing another office? [12:22] cause the latest kubuntu seems awesome. everything works perfectly [12:22] but doc formatting n rendering still sucks (but that's not a kde issue..) [12:22] poyntz: ? [12:23] i have no issue with kde 4.6.3 [12:23] and kubuntu 11.04 [12:25] me neither.. [12:25] but doc formatting isn't a kde issue [12:26] also dragon player now works n daisy now works [12:27] -- like the scrollers now work in dragon [12:43] what the what.. set up Sun Java PPA, refreshed, but can't find Sun Java JRE and plugin to install [13:07] !search java [13:07] Found: coffee*, jre, java64, javappc, sunjava, limewire*, ops-#ubuntu-nz, coffee-#ubuntu-offtopic, proxy-#kubuntu-proxy-users*, multijava and 10 more, see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=java [13:08] !sunjava [13:08] To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [13:22] so, how to install Sun JRE and plugin on Natty? sources on the web don't seem to agree on one way [13:34] hello [14:08] Hello! I'm having an issue with kded4 (and sometimes knotify4) eating 100% cpu. Does anyone knows anything about it? [14:09] hi! ive got a problem with knode: http://img703.imageshack.us/i/screen1q.png/ after an update the icons got a bit big :) does anybody know what could cause that? === sony is now known as Guest90851 [14:13] test [14:38] Hiyas [14:44] salve [14:44] list! [14:45] list! [14:45] !list [14:45] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [14:45] soft [14:48] agostino, if you are looking for the kubuntu operating system iso , then go here, www.kubuntu.org [14:49] !it | agostino [14:49] agostino: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [14:51] BluesKaj: for the record, up time almost 3 days, xsession-errors file, only 3MB, apparently it was nepomuk, it doesn't like me. [14:53] nepomuk ,doesn't work well with a lot of setups , I think it should be left out of normal installs and made an option for thosw who want to databases , mysql etc [14:54] want databases [14:54] after my recent run-in with it, I would have to agree. :) [14:54] I had the same issue about cpu usage [14:59] shane4kubuntu, I don't understand this practice of leaving a computer turned on in any mode sleep or otherwise when it's not being used . I always turn mine off when not in use. [15:07] hi [15:08] which gui lib gambas uses default? [15:09] Anybody know the status of NVIDIA's proprietary driver issue? [15:10] spoon: which issue? [15:13] It appears that a number of folks can not use Nvidia's proprietary drivers in Natty, myself included. After upgrade and complete reinstall can only boot to a terminal prompt. [15:18] spoon, which nvidia card ? [15:19] geforce 5000 series [15:20] From the forums though it looks like this issue doesn't discriminate between many Nvidia cards. [15:27] any gentoo user here? [15:28] kevin___: This is #kubuntu, try #gentoo [15:28] thank you [15:32] Pici, spoon was here before , he's been yold several times to instll nvidia-current , because the forums say "it doesn't work " he won't ry it . according to my sources the 500 series does work ...so i think the guy is almost a troll, just complains but won't accept advice. [15:32] err 5000 series [15:36] moin BluesKaj + Pici [15:37] hi szal [15:37] is it possible to install ubuntu in usd device and boot from it and using the same ubuntu installed usb in other systems? [15:38] most likely not, because what is included in the initramdisk is mostly hardware-specific [15:39] iow, install on one system, put stick on other system -> probably won't boot [15:41] oh i see, but if it is used with one system, will it work? [15:45] kevin___, there's an app for that aptoncd , I think [15:45] or apton usb in this case:) [15:47] i am not talking abt apt! I want to experiment with os portability [15:48] hi. I got brand new laptop. it comes with windows 7 pro. since I want the dual boot part. May I safely asume that installing kubuntu..it will automatically create the dual boot for me [15:48] apt maintains the repository installed / suppoertd apps [15:50] kevin___, just use a usb with the kubuntu alternate install on it ,,,that's really flexible [15:53] jmut, yes , it should but you follow the instructions on the partitoning closely , some don't realize that the auto install can wipe windows [15:54] keep a close eye on the istallation process , it will ask you whatpartitions you want to save etc [15:54] mp3 [15:55] !list | [15:55] : This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [15:56] what is it about frenode/kubuntu that these mp3 seekers don't understand:) ? [15:58] BluesKaj: kudos. thank you [16:00] jmut, it's not real complicated , just keep an eye on the install [16:04] BluesKaj: yep [16:12] how can i open smb files without copying to /var/tmp/kdecache-myname/krun/ [16:18] ocsi, pls expalin in more detail [16:20] when i try to open a avi files from netwok i have to wait 20 min [16:21] what is the command to creat a tar.gz file? [16:21] huh? [16:23] ocsi, that's because it's copying the file from the source to your pc ... [16:23] kevin___: not that you couldn't look that up yourself (manpage, Google).. -> tar cvzf DESTINATIONFILE.tar.gz SOURCEFILE1 SOURCEFILE2 etc. [16:24] thank you [16:27] ocsi, do you know about ssh , you can play files like media remotely if you use the right commands [16:27] !openssh | ocsi [16:27] ocsi: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) === root is now known as Guest70538 [16:47] I'm on kubuntu 10.10. I installed the unity package but when I try to log in selecting the "ubuntu netbook edition" I just get a gnome desktop. Is anyone aware of what I'm missing? [16:49] flyingmayo: try into #ubuntu [16:49] we support kde +ubuntukernel [16:49] stop [16:49] ty [16:49] flyingmayo: btw kde can do this... http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/10/plasma-desktopvj1685.jpg [16:56] fly don't think unity runs on netbooks ..graphics required are more thn most can handle [17:01] what is an alternative to foxit reader ? foxit does not support 64bit linux [17:04] I'm on Natty with ext4 partiton and the partition manager won't let me resize its disabled (grayed out) how can i easily resize my partition please? [17:15] olskolirc: you need to un-mount before [17:15] thanks peace [17:15] Peace-, [17:20] hi2all.did somebody know where i can enable the "fast writes" for my nvidia un kubuntu 10.4 [17:31] Hello! [17:31] my kubuntu installation keeps blanking the screen even with my settings set to not doing that [17:31] i tried the gui for it [17:31] i tried "xset s off" [17:31] but won't work [17:31] any ideas? [17:32] viliny: You mean power savinf? [17:32] saving? [17:32] im not sure [17:33] the problem is the screen goes blank after a while [17:33] What is your power profile set to? [17:33] hi! ive got a problem with knode: http://img703.imageshack.us/i/screen1q.png/ after an update the icons got a bit big :) does anybody know what could cause that? [17:33] Daskreech: where do i check that? [17:33] viliny: look at the "power management" module in system settings [17:34] viliny: alt+f2 -> type power [17:34] i just did this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4091293&postcount=6 [17:34] ah there they were :) [17:34] thank you [17:34] that should solve it :) [17:34] Hatl: ha ha check #kde and see what they say that's pretty funny [17:35] viliny: Hope so :) [17:36] i use kubuntu in fullscreen on my other monitor on a windows machine via virtualbox and was getting annoying that the screen went blank if i din't fiddle the window for a while [17:37] where is youtube video cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser) [17:37] where is youtube video cache in Kubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser) [17:37] where is youtube video cache in Kubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser) [17:38] mah454: don't spam [17:38] OK [17:38] Excuse me ... === mren|off is now known as mren [17:41] where is the equivalent of "places" in kde? [17:41] if i want to browse my hd [17:42] in the file manager, where it should be [17:44] !info youtube-dl | mah454 [17:45] mah454: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube. In component universe, is extra. Version 2010.08.04-1 (maverick), package size 28 kB, installed size 140 kB [17:45] OK ... [17:45] tnx :) [17:52] hi, can i still upgrade from 9.04 or not possible anymore? [18:02] zen_monkey: You might be able to upgrade to 9.10 and so on. [18:02] zen_monkey: You can still upgrade [18:03] assuming that you had some kinda proper seperation it's way faster to do a new install but if you have 6 hours to kill... [18:03] Daskreech: all the time in the world :P [18:04] * Daskreech tries to find someone who has 1/2 the time in the world [18:04] zen_monkey: Instructions on how to upgrade from 9.04 to 11.04 are at: http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&q=ubuntu%209.04&fp=b6cf6853cd91f763&cad=b [18:04] !ca [18:04] Canadian Ubuntu users can be found in #ubuntu-ca [18:04] Daskreech: i'm at 9.04 right now with 12 blocked updates, and getting an error 127 that quits the upgrade, any ideas? [18:04] zen_monkey: more info needed [18:04] Or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes directly. [18:05] zen_monkey: Have you done a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first? [18:05] Hey, I can't change the "capture device preference" list in my system settings. whenever I do, it always reverts to the present configuration with the microphone jack as the first, and my webcam as the third (and various other devices after that). How can I fix this? [18:06] Daskreech: like wich are the blocked ones or what? [18:06] zen_monkey: Like pastebin the erro [18:07] Daskreech: how can i lauch the upgrade from the konsole? i cant pastebin you the image i get :D [18:08] zen_monkey: You can :_p [18:08] but try sudo do-release-upgrade [18:08] Daskreech: He has to apply all updates first. [18:09] zen_monkey: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade [18:09] so, the latest is, shuttleworths goal is 200 million in the next 4 yrs. [18:09] Daskreech: wops, thought they would be defferent from ubuntu :P my bad [18:11] Can I make an ubuntu 11.04 boot USB stick from kubuntu 11.04? [18:12] zen_monkey: not on the command line It's the great common man [18:12] Spaz_Dynamic: Sure. [18:12] wn1zid: 200 million in profit? [18:12] Spaz_Dynamic: install the ubuntu-desktop package and make your USB stick boot. [18:12] nice bless [18:12] http://digitizor.com/2011/05/09/mark-shuttleworth-ubuntu/ [18:13] Daskreech: 200 million users. [18:13] DarthFrog: For linux or just Ubuntu? [18:13] Ubuntu [18:13] I'm guessing all of a sudden Kubuntu is going to "count" [18:13] DarthFrog: do I have to install the ubuntu-desktop package? [18:13] Kubuntu does count, just not the main effort. [18:14] recent convert to kubuntu from ubuntu here & loving every moment of it [18:14] Spaz_Dynamic: I would imagine so, since installing the ubuntu-desktop package will bring in all the Ubuntu stuff. You asked about making an Ubuntu USB stick, not a Kubuntu one. [18:15] preecher: same here. :) [18:15] DarthFrog: Can't I just download the ubuntu ISO? [18:15] Spaz_Dynamic: Having never done it, I can't answer that. [18:16] DarthFrog: alright, thanks [18:16] Daskreech: Ubuntu is for newbies and going to 200 million users is a lot of newbies. :-) Kubuntu is for power users who can look after ourselves. [18:16] Hey, I can't change the "capture device preference" list in my system settings. whenever I do, it always reverts to the present configuration with the microphone jack as the first, and my webcam as the third (and various other devices after that). How can I fix this? [18:17] video works fine, its just the microphone on the webcam that I need to get working [18:17] and I'm pretty sure that it has to do with the preference list [18:17] Spaz_Dynamic: udev maybe? [18:18] udev? [18:20] Spaz_Dynamic: Don't screw around with udev (there be dragons!), file a bug report instead. [18:21] i got a report about a pc turning off when a usb device is plugged in/out. Did you have any of those? [18:21] DarthFrog: Alright, sounds good... Assuming someone will be able to help me... making video calls with no sound is a little bit, uh, strange? [18:21] Spaz_Dynamic: Depends upon the video call. :-) [18:24] how's natty so far? Any big issues due to which you would advise not to upgrade? [18:25] kaddi: None that I can see. Works great. Kubuntu version, that is. I gather there is unrest on the other side. [18:26] kaddi no problems on this end whatsoever other than i just dont like unity and climbed on the kde wagon [18:26] unrest was to be expected on the gnome part.. :p I heard rumors about issues with intel graphic chips again.. since I had big issues from jaunty through to karmic basically, I'm a little weary [18:26] kaddi: My laptop has Intel graphics. natty works fine on it. [18:27] what chip, if you don't mind me asking [18:27] kaddi: Dell Inspiron 15N. [18:28] Hi all, when I run geany or gimp error apears segmentation failed kubuntu 11.04 How to fix? [18:30] preecher: welcome to KDE :) [18:30] Daskreech thanks [18:30] antuan: run it from the command line to get the error message [18:32] how do i import a theme into my theme folder after its downloaded from the theme downoad?? [18:32] looks like you have a different chip tha me DarthFrog .. can't find which one you have exactly, mine is a inte 965 [18:32] Daskreech error message = Segmentation failed [18:33] Daskreech: well, so long so far with upgrade from console... has 2 hs to download all so thanks by now [18:35] kaddi: the 15n is a 1545 that cam with Ubuntu Intrepid pre-installed. [18:35] ah, that's prolly different then... I had the bad judgement of just picking an acer and installing linux onto it on my own ;) [18:36] na, it's working rather smoothely nowadays.. I'd hate to loose that [18:36] kaddi: I picked it because it came with Linux pre-installed and it only cost $299 USD. :-) [18:37] i occasionally have to use MS, so I didn't want to buy the license seperately [18:39] Makes sense. === shadeslayer is now known as Guest81377 [18:39] can anyone tell me how to put the theme i downloaded from the theme adder in Natty into my desktop themes? [18:39] so its not just Air, Air net book and Oxygen? === Guest81377 is now known as shadeslayer_ [18:41] Reliks: System Settings/Workspace/Appearance/Desktop Theme [18:42] Reliks: Use the "Get New Themes" button there. [18:42] is there a new version of KDE out? [18:42] Spaz_Dynamic: we got kde 4.6.3 [18:42] on ppa repository [18:43] is it awesome? [18:43] kaddi: It's just the monthly bug-fix version. [18:44] I did that but the theme I installed isnt In my themes spot [18:44] Peace-: which one? [18:44] Its just Oxygen, AIr, And air Netbook [18:46] Peace-: never mind, I decided to not be lazy. xD [18:48] I cant get the theme from THe add new themes in with the other themes [18:49] for some reason when I downloaded it it didnt go into the original themes section [19:35] test [19:36] jemand wach? [19:36] leeeuuutteeeeeee [19:37] cali spera [19:41] anyone alive in here that can tell me what package perl-Net-SSLeay can be found in [19:42] This? libcrypt-ssleay-perl [19:43] !perl-Net-SSLeay [19:43] libnet-ssleay-perl [19:43] i'd guess ti depends on the release you're using [19:43] eagles0513875, it's in the repos .check a package manager [19:44] kaddi 5.10 [19:44] and hi kaddi long time no chat [19:44] This page might help as well http://packages.ubuntu.com [19:44] heyhey :) [19:44] Two points to whomever can say what "eay" means in SSLeay. :-) [19:44] it's a typo, they meant "say" [19:44] im using a special build script that to send build failure notices for libre office [19:44] kaddi: Nope. :-) [19:44] hence to send out the emails and im on gmail i need to use starttls which needs that module [19:45] it's listed i synaptic so the spelling is correct [19:46] thanks Spinell :) that should do the trick [19:46] eagles0513875, libcrypt-ssleay-perl [19:46] ok... i have windows mobile 6.5 and gps2blue. how can i work this out so kubuntu has use of this to recieve GPS data ? [19:47] ya i got that now i need another module IO::Socket::SSL [19:47] greek: get rid of windows lol [19:47] Eric A. Young [19:47] well, when the warrenty expires on this phone, what linux distrobution should i install eagles0513875 ? [19:48] dunno greek never had to do so [19:48] for now though, it has windows mobile 6.5 and is running gps2blue.. is it posable to provide kubuntu with this device as an external gps reciever ? [19:50] rhobuntu might be a sutible choise for later though. i have only run it as a dual boot... the app that loads it caused my phone to require a factory reset... [19:50] haret.exe [19:51] ok.. how does linux normally attach to an external gps device ? [19:52] greek: Presumably by USB. [19:52] good then... i will continue my search directing towards usb [19:52] thanks [19:53] hi. is it normal that every other week when a mayor upgrade hits, i have to reinstall falsh with "sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer" ? [19:53] asraniel: No [19:54] DarthFrog: ok.. because i have that problem with all 3 of my kubuntu installs [19:57] would there be a "gps linux" channel or a "linux hardware" channel on this network ? :D [19:57] asraniel: Bizarre. I've never had it happen. [19:58] greek: /list will tell you the channels available. [19:58] thanks [19:59] greek: I didn't really do you a favour. :-) there are a *lot* of channels to wade through. [19:59] i know, that is why i requested a suggestion. [19:59] greek: Personally, I'd do a google search for the particular GPS model & Linux. [20:00] coming into a room asking questions, it is best except a position of unknowing in respect to thjose who may provide asssitence. [20:00] this is what i have been doing DarthFrog [20:00] greek: No luck? [20:00] those* [20:00] По русски ктото говорит? [20:01] !ru | masterjp [20:01] masterjp: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [20:01] well... i havw come accross apps that are spacifically for external garmen devices [20:01] greek, usually those with some expertise in the relavent area will answer your question , no need to ask ppl directly [20:02] was that a translation command ? [20:02] * greek returns to searching [20:02] greek: No. It was a request to the bot (Ubottu) to tell masterjp that this channel is English only and he can get help in Russian elsewhere. [20:03] DarthFrog, greek uses a translator himself , I'm thinking :) [20:04] BluesKaj: any idea what package this is in IO::Socket::SSL [20:04] !ubottu [20:04] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [20:05] eagles0513875, that's why I use synaptic , merely for reference , you can still use the cli to install [20:05] ya [20:05] !perl [20:06] BluesKaj: next best thing that worked google [20:07] eagles0513875, there are 5 lisyings in synaptic ,but which one is relavent , I'm not sure [20:07] i got it [20:07] neede libio-socket-ssl-perl [20:08] eagles0513875: apt-cache search libio-socket-ssl-perl [20:08] libio-socket-ssl-perl, libnet-imap-simple-perl, libhttp-daemon-ssl-perl, libnet-smtp-ssl-perl, libevent-rpc-perl [20:08] hello? [20:09] need some info [20:09] hello [20:09] just did the 11.04 [20:10] DarthFrog: i found that in the ubuntu forums wasnt sure though what module i was looking for exactly [20:10] installed Firefox...... [20:10] eagles0513875, libio-socket-ssl-perl, libnet-imap-simple-perl, libhttp-daemon-ssl-perl, libnet-smtp-ssl-perl, libevent-rpc-perl [20:10] BluesKaj: its working need to figure out authentication now [20:10] and now flash doesnt work [20:12] eagles0513875: the "apt-cache" command is very useful in situations like this. [20:12] briandw1969, install kubuntu-restricted-extras [20:12] in a terminal? [20:13] DarthFrog: i use it all the time its helpful when u know kinda what your looking for === pivotto is now known as cagnara [20:14] briandw1969, terminal or package manager [20:16] what is proper syntax for that plz [20:17] in the terminal , sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras [20:19] is running it now,TY [20:19] briandw1969, yw [20:19] where is best documentation for the commands and such? [20:20] !cli [20:20] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro [20:20] ok,thanx [20:29] hello. As you probably know, Skype was purchased by Microsoft. Do you know any other alternative voip clients (that allow you import your skype contacts) for linux?) [20:36] as far as i know there are alternatives, but no skype compatible client... :( [20:43] george__: the only stuff i use is google talks [20:44] george__: if you are american i guess you can phone too [20:44] zen_monkey, there might be a glimmer of hope for linux skype users , since if ms retains the free skype app for windows users [20:44] *call [20:45] george__: http://www.google.com/chat/voice/ [20:46] george__: https://www.google.com/voice/b/0/rates [20:46] Peace: No, I'm from Brazil. Google voice is available only in the USA... [20:47] zen_monkey:That's a shame. [20:48] george__: you are luck i am italian here doesn't work too :D but i can use video goolte talks with my family [20:48] george__: you need to call someone withoutpc ? [20:48] if not.. you can use video google talks [20:48] BluesKaj: I think MS will ending up dropping Linux support in the future. [20:49] Peace: Yes, but I have contacts that use Skype. [20:50] hi. I am stupid as hell :( [20:50] just installed kubuntu and forgot user password. is ther eeasy way to reset it or neet to reinstall? [20:51] jmut: there is some ways [20:51] wait [20:51] xD [20:51] jmut: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword [20:52] Peace-: thank you [20:52] *are [21:00] hi, I'm planning to install Kubuntu on my laptop and I'm unsure whether to go with 32 or 64 bit. I've read many of the articles on the net regarding 64-bit Linux in general. Is there anything specific to Kubuntu or the repos regarding this ? [21:01] I see that the 32-bit is still recommended, why is that [21:02] blip-: mostly to prevent people with 32bit hardware to download 64 and wonder why it doesn't work, as 32bit works on both 32 and 64 bit [21:02] I'm running 64 here fine, although flash is still 32bit + wrapper [21:04] I have a new laptop, maybe that's different in terms of drivers [21:04] blip-: Unless you have a need for intense CPU processing power, 32 bit is all you need. [21:05] nah, drivers work fine for both usually, at least what we have in the archive [21:05] yofel: 64bit runs flawlessly here (other distro), though it's perhaps more tedious to install [21:06] Flash, that is [21:06] 64bit here , no 32 bit wrappers required ..all seems fine so far (kde 4.6.3) [21:06] well, flash yeah, although the 32bit wrapped one usually works [21:06] the 64bit flash works fine for me, but that doesn't get security updates I think [21:07] anyone tried natty + 4.6.3 + compiz? having some problems here with systray [21:08] Don't know where to file the bug, afraid everyone wil point at the other ;) [21:08] mrvanes, well, desktop effects seems to cover everything i need , making compiz redundant , unless you need special effects the ccsm provides [21:09] Well, I might take a look again, but am kind of glued to compiz's fluidness [21:09] well, it could be an issue with 4.6.3, I don't think we have anyone that test compiz against the point releases before we release them [21:09] And the wobbly windows algorithm looks better [21:10] skype and keepassx refuse to go to the systray under compiz [21:10] with kwin no problem [21:10] wobbly windows works just as well in desktop effects IIRC [21:10] I know, they just feel better under compiz ;) [21:10] shrugs [21:18] BluesKaj: how's that of ms keeping the free app? [21:19] anyone tried install madwifi on 64 bit? [21:22] leonardHome: whats your problem ? [21:22] Peace-: I'm trying to enable Wifi on my laptop. But, no wifi drivers. [21:23] hello peoples! just got a new nexus s android phone, and i'm trying to get it to work with kubuntu 11.04. i plug it in, but it doesn't show up in device notifier. halp? [21:23] leonardHome: well :D [21:24] leonardHome: so madwifi ... [21:24] leonardHome: what the problem compiling that? [21:24] what's [21:24] gorgonzola: mmm [21:24] gorgonzola: I have a android and pretty much the same happens [21:24] gorgonzola: did you set it like mass storage? [21:24] how do i do that? [21:25] gorgonzola: well i have not an android stuff [21:25] zen_monkey, skype to skype is free on all platforms , lets hope MS keeps that tradition, anyway if it doesn't then google-voice will probly take it's place ...google is working on distributing outside the US [21:25] i have nokia [21:25] Peace the phone says "USB debugging detected" [21:25] Peace-: still compiling. hang on. [21:25] and dmesg sees a usb mass storage device. but it does not show up on device notifier. maybe it needs udev rules? [21:25] leonardHome: i dunno i have compiled madwifi on 32bit without problmes [21:25] BluesKaj: however, the lack of a free VoiP client on KDE is not cool [21:25] gorgonzola: mm i don't think so [21:25] but.. [21:26] gorgonzola: i have created some udev rules for my nokia... [21:26] maybe you could copy my work [21:26] and apply to your phone [21:26] gorgonzola: have you google about that? [21:26] gogled xD [21:26] Peace i'm on it. one forum says it should show as mass storage... but it doesn't [21:27] gorgonzola: ok we could break that stuff then xD [21:27] let me find out my stuff [21:27] Peace-: Adding the ath_pci module to the kernel now. [21:28] gorgonzola: found out [21:28] gorgonzola: this it's what i did :) http://nowardev.wordpress.com/author/nowardev/page/5/ [21:28] gorgonzola: let me know if you can't read the topic [21:28] Peace- lets see. give me a sec... [21:28] Peace-: i use trunk from http://snapshots.madwifi-project.org/madwifi-trunk-current.tar.gz [21:28] the ath5k module is supposed to replace the ath_* atheros modules [21:28] aha. it is a bunch of a udev rules... [21:28] Peace-: it didn't work. :( [21:29] leonardHome: have you checked if madwifi support your hardware ? [21:29] keffie_jayx, agreed , kde seems to be heade for the backbenches again , I see the buzz about ubuntu/unity being promoted agressively by canonical...not eben a mention about kde [21:29] Peace-: Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) [21:29] gorgonzola: lsusb [21:29] gorgonzola: i will write udev in 2 seconds [21:30] xD [21:30] Peace- yes, i'm on it. but i find it hard to believe that this doesn't have a more friendly way... [21:30] gorgonzola: oh well it should work [21:30] gorgonzola: lets' test first [21:30] BluesKaj: I think we cannot blame the lack of a VoiP client on canonical solely [21:30] Peace- yes... i will try that as last resort. i'll keep googling. [21:30] Peace- thanks! [21:30] ok [21:30] :D [21:32] Peace-: I assume AR928X was supported. [21:32] leonardHome: wel you havenot to assume... [21:32] you need to be sure [21:32] first [21:32] I'm not placing blame , but kde suffers a lot from benign neglect and a lack of devs [21:33] leonardHome: http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Compatibility [21:33] BluesKaj: ya [21:34] leonardHome: btw , why you wifi doesn't work by defaul t [21:34] leonardHome: lsmod | grep -i ath [21:35] Peace-: checking the list of hardware now. lsmod gives the below [21:35] ath_pci 198001 0 [21:35] wlan 252376 1 ath_pci [21:35] ath_hal 435109 1 ath_pci [21:35] ath9k 118238 0 [21:35] leonardHome: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [21:35] mac80211 294370 1 ath9k [21:35] wt* [21:35] hahaha [21:36] omg leonardHome you have both ath9k and ath_pci [21:36] omg [21:36] leonardHome: sudo rmmod ath9k [21:37] Peace-: it shows wifi enabled... [21:38] Peace-: should I disconnect the LAN cable to test the wifi? [21:38] sudp iwlist ath0 scan [21:38] sudo iwlist ath0 scan [21:38] leonardHome: nope [21:38] Peace-: noted. [21:38] !paste | leonardHome [21:38] leonardHome: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:39] Peace-: it gives me... ath0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [21:39] leonardHome: iwconfig [21:40] Peace-: showing lo and eth0 no wireless extensions [21:40] mm [21:40] leonardHome: please post all the stuff on pastebin [21:41] !paste [21:41] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:41] Peace-: noted and sorry again. new to irc. [21:42] Peace-: is this okay? http://paste.ubuntu.com/605865/ [21:42] leonardHome: i guess your card is not supported via madwifibecause the driver ath_pci is loaded [21:43] but it seems doesn't recognize your hardware [21:43] anyway... [21:43] sudo rmmod ath_pci [21:43] sudo modprobe ath9k [21:43] then post again iwconfig [21:43] yep it's correct [21:43] on pastebin i mean [21:44] Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605867/ [21:44] leonardHome: ok sudo iwlist wlan0 scan [21:44] leonardHome: always in pastebin [21:45] Peace-: I learnt my pastebin lesson. :) [21:45] Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605868/ [21:46] leonardHome: okk [21:46] leonardHome: rfkill list [21:47] Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605869/ [21:47] leonardHome: is it on laptop ? check if oyu have some buttons ... switch ; btw your device is blocked [21:48] Peace-: it's laptop. Both wifi and bluetooth lights are on. [21:48] leonardHome: sudo rfkill unblock all [21:49] leonardHome: then again rfkill list [21:49] Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605871/ [21:49] leonardHome: sbloked [21:49] Peace-: sorry about the previous one. paste wrongly. [21:50] leonardHome: now , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan [21:50] leonardHome: no problem kid [21:50] Peace-: it gives a list of hotstops on terminal now [21:51] leonardHome: :) i guess i have fixed your hardware [21:51] leonardHome: basically you don't need of drivers..... [21:51] really? [21:51] leonardHome: you had only to unblock [21:51] the device [21:51] arh... [21:51] so i need to undo the make install step_ [21:51] ? [21:51] leonardHome: yep remove the madwifi [21:52] hi geeks [21:52] does anyone know if there is a french channel there ? [21:52] Peace-: how to remove it? apt-get remove? [21:53] leonardHome: have you compiled? [21:53] Peace-: yup [21:53] i guess yes [21:53] ok... [21:53] leonardHome : if compiled -> no, if installed -> yes [21:53] WeezzZ: if both yes? :) [21:54] yes [21:54] if you just compiled the shit, you just have to remove the directory [21:54] leonardHome: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/07/kubuntu-904-driver/ [21:54] if installed with apt [21:54] leonardHome: learn [21:54] do apt get remove [21:54] leonardHome: that is my blog i have to go [21:54] if installed with a script, read the man, then you'll have the way to unsintall it [21:55] if you got some problems , remember the driver that works it's ath9k , ath_pci it's the driver to put on blacklist [21:55] leonardHome: read up [21:55] anyway, any french there ??? [21:55] Peace-: I will learn and readup. Thanks! [21:55] !fr | WeezzZ [21:55] WeezzZ: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [21:55] htx peace :) [21:56] *thx [21:56] WeezzZ: thanks for ur tip too. [21:56] leonardHome: rememeber in that tutorial... i was loading the madwifi driver and blacklisting ath5k [21:57] leonardHome: you have to blacklist ath_pci ,as knows as madwifi, and modprobing load athe theboot time ath9k [21:57] Peace-: appreciate the detailed information. [21:57] ok good night here in italy is late [21:57] have luck [21:57] ! [21:58] Peace-: good nite! [22:09] i tried installing 11.04 last night with linux software raid with lvm (raid 5). The mount point for this was "/". So yes, this is what i'm booting from. I remember doing something like this before. But i get a error with the grub installer. Does anyone know if this is possible with linux software raid/lvm? [22:16] define "a error" [22:16] trcomp1: very possible but the boot partition must not be part of the raidarray [22:19] hi, is there anywhere I can download Kubuntu more quickly ? I've tried the 11.04 32bit Direct download as well as bittorrent, I get about 40 KB/s.... [22:20] I believe ubuntu had mirrors, somehow I don't see anyl isted for kubuntu [22:25] ah found some 3rd part links [22:36] Sorry for the delay, I have done linux software raid (RAID 1) where the raid was "/". Everything booted and resided on the software raid. [22:37] So i do not believe that you need your /boot on a non raid partition [22:37] If this is the case I haven't found much saying that you cant boot from a raid 5/10 [22:37] so thats why i ask [22:39] hello, Is there a good solution for correcting plymouth problem with Nvidia drivers for Kubuntu 11.04? The script I used to have for 10.10 doesn't work, and I haven't succeeded using plymouth manger [22:49] c-c-m_: try http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=14236 [22:51] I am having problems getting amarok to see my android device (or any device whatso ever) in masstorage mode on kubuntu natty. clemetine sees them fine with no problem. anyone else experience this? [22:53] thank you HouseMD [22:53] c-c-m_: you are welcome === mike is now known as Guest50115 [23:16] anyone else experiences the font size to be switched back to size 9 when you pick a larger one? [23:21] HouseMD: i had it when i upgraded to 4.6.3. I resetted to my likings and now seems to keep it... [23:21] gomiboy: ah ok, thanks [23:27] hmm guys, I've just switched from Gnome to KDE and all my desktop files don't appear, although I've set my desktop path correctly in the Account Details > Paths... What can be wrong? [23:28] Kaspi: you mean the files in your Desktop folder? [23:29] gomiboy: well, in my localized desktop folder === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [23:33] Kaspi: kde doesn't show them by default, do you have a "folder view" widget on your desktop? [23:35] gomiboy: do I have to add one? [23:36] yes, and set it to show your desktop folder, thats it. [23:37] the Kubuntu desktop comes w/ one by default, no idea about a posterior KDE install though [23:38] gomiboy: yeah, but it's still a widget... and I'd like it to be larger at least, or better it shall cover all the desktop... is it possible? === mren is now known as mren|off [23:38] you can resize it as you wish [23:39] Kaspi: right click the desktop > desktop settings ... change the activitytype to folder view [23:39] or that [23:44] James147: can't seem to find this option in the desktop settings... [23:44] Kaspi: sorry its layout ^^ [23:45] desktop settings > view > layout === patrick is now known as Guest93032 [23:45] James147: aha! cule! [23:45] Thanks guys. === |GuS| is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as [GuS] [23:56] I've found that when I plug my ipod into the computer in 11.04, two listings show up: one for "IPOD" and the other for "Apple iPod" [23:56] anyone else noticed this? [23:56] also, no tracks show up in amarok