[09:03] <TLE> dpm: hey
[09:04] <TLE> dpm: quick question, when does a string enter translations memory (so it is used as suggestion other places), when it is suggested or when it is actually used in a translation?
[09:04] <henninge> TLE: when it is suggested.
[09:05] <TLE> henninge: what if I dismiss the suggestion, does it then stay?
[09:05] <henninge> TLE: The external suggestion either say "suggested in ... by ..." or "used in ..."
[09:05] <henninge> yes
[09:05] <TLE> hmm
[09:05] <TLE> henninge: thanks
[09:06] <TLE> has there been discussion about that before, because I would regard that as a bug, I mean that dismissed suggestions aren't deleted
[09:10] <henninge> TLE: I don't remember that being discussed but maybe danilos does.
[09:12] <danilos> TLE, even dismissed suggestions stay in the translation memory, it'd be a non-trivial bug to fix
[09:13] <andrejz> what if the defaults are changes so that only accepted translations are in the TM ?
[09:13] <TLE> danilos: yeah I could imagine, but still, it might be good to make a bug report so we could discuss it a little, get a few opinions
[09:13] <danilos> andrejz, that'd be an easier way to solve the problem, yes
[09:13] <danilos> TLE, sure, by all means :)
[09:14] <danilos> TLE, there might already be a bug, I remember this coming up from time to time
[09:14] <TLE> ahh ok, thanks for your answers
[10:13] <goof2092> need help with a pointer where I can get the gnome glossary. Need to use it as a template for new translation guides for our Bemba team
[10:18] <TLE> goof2092: you should try and see on the team page for your language
[10:19] <TLE> and if there is no links there, then contact the email list or the coordinator
[10:21] <goof2092> thanks TLE, I am coordinating the team and was hoping to get a template we can use as guide to creating our own glossary
[10:25] <kelemengabor> hey dpm
[10:25] <kelemengabor> have you checked the ML today?
[10:26] <dpm> hey kelemengabor, yeah, I'm up for the translations beer, I forgot to mention it on the session :)
[10:26] <kelemengabor> cool :)
[10:26] <kelemengabor> and will we have a langpack update schedule?
[10:27] <kelemengabor> I think it was working well for the last cycle
[10:28] <dpm> kelemengabor, we have one already, we're just a bit behind on the last update, but I think we should perhaps wait for the first update until the docs are updated
[10:28] <dpm> let me dig out the link...
[10:29] <kelemengabor> I didn't saw that then
[10:29] <dpm> kelemengabor, yeah, we should have given it more publicity -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/NattyLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
[10:30] <dpm> so we might want to skip the first update (on which) we're already behind, and aim for the second
[10:30] <dpm> and that that second includes the documentation translations
[10:40] <TLE> goof2092: I meant contact the coordinator of the GNOME team
[10:41] <goof2092> Oh, ok. thanks TLE will do that
[10:41] <TLE> goof2092: np
[10:42] <TLE> it is a good initiative, it is nice with common glossary across big projects
[10:45] <kelemengabor> dpm: well, it would give a little more time to reach some progress on docs, but I think we should still try to push a few updates
[10:45] <kelemengabor> they are out in the PPA anyway
[10:45] <kelemengabor> perhaps extending the testing deadline a week or so
[10:45] <andrejz> @kelemengabor: +1, we fixed a couple of bugs after release would like to get them away :)
[10:46] <dpm> yeah, I was just thinking it because the next update was only 3 weeks after the first one, but if you guys you think we should go for it, let's do it (but it might be that we have to wait after UDS)
[10:49] <TLE> dpm: you can jst annouce testing and push the deadline one week
[10:50] <TLE> Then I'll remember to think about UDS when I make the next schedule
[10:51] <dpm> :)
[10:53] <TLE> There is also someone on the list asking for an update for chinese, so it is probably better to do one.
[10:53] <TLE> If you agree that we simply postpone the testing deadline one week, I can make the announcement if you are to pressed for time
[10:55] <TLE> I'll make a new section on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA
[10:57] <TLE> dpm: ^^
[10:59] <andrejz> i was wondering if it's possible to somehow automate the testing of language packs for regressions /errors
[10:59] <TLE> andrejz: that is being worked on, but untill that glorious day, we have to do it manually
[11:00] <TLE> afk lunch, read back here in an hour
[11:13] <kelemengabor> TLE: just added my language to the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA page, and the version number
[11:14] <kelemengabor> now, we only need a new deadline and a mail to the list, right dpm? ;)
[11:15] <andrejz> i think so, kelemengabor
[11:16] <dpm> TLE, +1, if you could do the announcement, that'd be awesome. Could you please CC Martin Pitt as well, so that he's aware of the call for testing?
[11:16] <andrejz> @kelemengabor, you can use this template  - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2011-March/004523.html
[11:18] <dpm> Thanks andrejz :)
[11:19] <andrejz> i can also make an announcement if everyone is busy, only the date and ubuntu version needs to be changed
[11:20] <dpm> TLE, kelemengabor, andrejz, oh, just one thing I forgot: we need the langpack to be copied to -proposed before calling for testing...
[11:20] <andrejz> how can that be done?
[11:20] <dpm> I mean to be copied from the PPA to natty-proposed. Let me ping pitti about this...
[11:21] <kelemengabor> dpm: oh, right, I'm checking it right now, they are only in the PPA yet
[11:22] <dpm> kelemengabor, yeah, I've just pinged pitti about it, but I'm not sure if he's busy right now.
[11:29] <andrejz> is anyone currently using gnome 3.0? I am wondering if somebody can check a bug for me?