[00:05] <TheErk> Yo ho ho
[00:06] <canthus13> ...and a bottle of rum?
[00:06] <TheErk> Yes please.
[00:11] <canthus13> Heh.
[00:11]  * canthus13 stays away from rum.. Had bad experiences with it in high school...
[00:23] <dmcglone1> anybody here?
[00:23] <dmcglone1> Never mind, stupid side pane was hidden
[00:25]  * Cheri703 is still awake in budapest :)
[00:26] <dmcglone1> sleep apnoea Cheri703
[00:26] <Cheri703> nah, it's almost 1:30...roommate is still sending emails
[00:26] <Cheri703> so I'm up
[00:27] <dmcglone1> AM or PM?
[00:28] <Cheri703> am
[00:29] <canthus13> It's europe. there is no AM/PM. :)
[00:29] <paultag> canthus13: who's your roomie?
[00:30] <paultag> erm, Cheri703
[00:30] <canthus13> paultag: My wife. :)
[00:30] <paultag> canthus13: :)
[00:30] <dmcglone1> who was my mistress
[00:31] <Cheri703> hypatia
[00:31] <Cheri703> :A)
[00:31] <Cheri703> *:)
[00:31] <Cheri703> it's ok though
[00:32] <TheErk> What up P-Tag!
[00:34] <paultag> heyya TheErk
[00:34] <paultag> canthus13: cool :)
[00:34] <paultag> gah!
[00:34] <paultag> Cheri703: *
[00:34] <Cheri703> hehe
[00:37] <TheErk> How the heck is everyone?
[00:37] <paultag> stressed and pissed off
[00:37] <dmcglone1> I can't believe the things my kids get away with!
[00:37] <dmcglone1> why you pissed paultag?
[00:38] <paultag> finals week
[00:38] <dmcglone1> Ah I see.
[00:38] <dmcglone1> but just remember it's the last one for you :-)
[00:39] <paultag> truth!!!
[00:40] <paultag> I is learned
[00:40] <dmcglone1> did anybody know the toothpick has been used for 45 centuries!!!!!
[00:40] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Makes it all the more stressful... If he screws up, he will have another one. :)
[00:40] <paultag> +1 canthus13 :)
[00:40] <paultag> that's why I'm getting drunk
[00:41] <dmcglone1> wish I could get drunk
[00:41] <paultag> my shoulders have siezed up and caused pins 'n needles on the right side of my face
[00:41] <paultag> so I need something to relax the mussles
[00:41] <paultag> mussels rather
[00:41] <dmcglone1> a hot tub
[00:41] <paultag> I wish
[00:42] <dmcglone1> I got a shower head that has 16 different settings on it, I freakin love that thing
[00:42] <paultag> aye
[00:43] <dmcglone1> I usually use the pulse spray, it relaxes my muscles using ultra hot water :-0
[00:46] <dmcglone1> paultag: I wouldn't worry, you'll do just fine. someday when your an old fart you'll look back and
[00:46] <dmcglone1> wonder why you got so stressed :-/
[00:46] <dmcglone1> I got that advise from the old fart canthus13 ;-)
[00:47] <paultag> dmcglone1: :)
[00:47] <paultag> thanks dmcglone1
[00:47] <paultag> BRB school
[00:54] <TheErk> At what age does one become an old fart?
[02:41] <dmcglone1> does anyone get choppy dvd playback with a netbook and totem?
[02:45] <dmcglone1> I've got 160 GB HD and 1 GB of memory I don't see why video would be choppy with totem, but run smooth with vlc
[02:55] <dmcglone1> Looks like I'll have to go with VLC :-(
[02:56]  * canthus13 lurves VLC.
[02:58] <dmcglone1> canthus13: lurves?
[02:59] <dmcglone1> you mean "loves"
[03:01]  * canthus13 means lurves.
[03:02] <dmcglone1> you could have just said "love" LOL
[03:02] <canthus13> but I said lurves. :/
[03:04] <dmcglone1> I like totem for the youtube plugin. I hate the thought of having to use 2 separate players for DVD and Youtube
[03:05] <dmcglone1> I spend a LOT of time listening to other guitarist
[03:13] <dmcglone1> alright well I'm out g'night all
[05:06] <jgould> I like VLC
[05:06] <Unit193> +1 VLC!
[05:06] <jgould> Also,  Something that I havent' even thought about tackling yet,  sreaming neflix on a Linux Box
[05:52] <jgould> Hmm... I just found something I can't do in Linux...  A spreadsheet with VBA MAcros...
[05:57]  * jgould sighs
[06:02] <jgould> XFCE won't do two monitors?
[06:08] <Unit193> jgould: What card?
[06:09] <jgould> Intel i915
[06:09] <Unit193> man intel <-- may tell you something
[06:09] <jgould> I can mirror, but I can't run two displays
[06:16] <jgould> Ok,  We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
[06:18] <Unit193> Canonical?
[06:19] <jgould> Sure
[06:20] <jgould> Hmm...  It's telling me that the device section needs an "Identifier"?
[06:28] <jgould> Hmmm... Taht didn't work
[06:29] <Unit193> I have never done dual monitors (Maybe Cheri703 can help once she's back on)
[06:30] <Unit193> Synergy is as close as I get...
[06:32] <jgould> Had to tell XFCE what to do with it...
[06:43] <jgould> Hmm...  Now GDM is showing up on 'Screen 1'  There shoudl be a way to fix this
[08:36] <jgould> Man... XFCE's support of dual monitors stinks
[08:46] <Unit193> And I'm the idiot going to be getting up at 9AM...
[08:56] <jgould>  know that feeling, Unit193
[08:57] <Unit193> I should really get off now... (UDS thing tomorrow I kinda want to see/hear/read)
[09:01] <jgould> I should head to bed
[09:16]  * Cheri703 woke up halfway through the first session -_-
[09:17] <jgould> Not good
[09:18] <Cheri703> yeah
[09:18] <Cheri703> I'm down here now
[09:18] <jgould> I'm heading to bed.  It's 4 am back home
[09:20] <Cheri703> yeah
[09:22] <Cheri703> the time difference is weird
[15:17] <Unit193> Cheri703: Are you with the crazy guys with the text-to-speach?
[15:18] <Cheri703> yeah
[15:20] <Cheri703> the super fast one was actually how this one blind guy listens to it
[15:21] <thafreak> Holy crap, this one old server here...I just realized it has a second disk
[15:21] <thafreak> mounted it to see what was on it...
[15:21] <thafreak> there's a dir named tomcat4
[15:22] <Unit193> Cheri703: Wow... I'm "going" to the next one and I "went" to the last one....
[15:22] <thafreak> ugh, just makes me want to nuke this machine even more now
[15:22] <Cheri703> that's cool :) good for you attending remotely Unit193 !
[15:22] <Unit193> ...at 9am....
[15:22] <Unit193> thafreak: I take it you can't?
[15:23] <thafreak> I could if I moved all the services off of it to other machines...which is something I've been planning on for the last 2 years :)
[15:24] <Unit193> Is it really a server computer? or one you use for it?
[15:24] <thafreak> ha, no it's a crusty old dell 2U rackmount server...
[15:25] <thafreak> the hardware isn't bad really...
[15:25] <thafreak> but some one lost the rackmount rails for it...so it's kind of balancing on top of a UPS, which I'm not a fan of
[15:26] <thafreak> I'm probably going to virtualize it first...so I can atleast turn off the old hardware...then migrate everything off of it
[15:31] <thafreak> paultag: you around?
[15:31] <thafreak> I'm trying to come up with a way to establish trust between two parties...preferably without meeting face to face...
[15:32] <thafreak> Also, anyone know if anyone has combined the web of trust, and social networking?
[15:32] <thafreak> They seem like they should go hand in hand...
[15:53] <Unit193> BiosElement: Finally got a warning from LastPass
[16:11] <canthus13> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Microsofts-85-billion-Skype-apf-3392466511.html?x=0
[16:11] <canthus13> The end of Skype for linux.
[16:12] <Unit193> Ya think so?
[16:14] <canthus13> Can *you* see MS keeping a linux version of anything other than linux > windows migration tools?
[16:14] <canthus13> more likely, they'll immediately remove the linux version from the site and lock out all the linux clients.
[16:17] <Unit193> I *really* can't see them keeping it!
[16:30] <_bbb> embrace extend extinguish
[16:36] <thafreak> even if they do keep it...they'll probably use it to spy on linux users
[16:36] <thafreak> maybe propigate a virus, ala osx....
[16:37] <thafreak> "Oh look, linux isn't secure now" - Micro$soft
[16:37] <Unit193> conflicts with kernel-generic
[16:58] <Cheri703> canthus13: the thought I saw was that they may just leave it since it encourages more paid skype users...people on windows who want to talk to linux folks
[17:00] <canthus13> Cheri703: Maybe... but I think MS hates linux more than it likes moeny..
[17:01] <Unit193> You think anyone will reverse code it?
[17:03] <canthus13> Unit193: DOubt it... They've been trying since skype came out and haven't managed yet.
[17:15] <canthus13> ALthough, the DMCA does allow for reverse engineering for the purpose of interoperability.... so once there's no linux client, someone may be motivated to do it.
[17:45] <thafreak> sudo aptitude purge skype
[18:14] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[18:15] <Unit193> Howdy Derath-Srvr
[18:37] <Derath-Srvr> T minus one month: apt-get remove skype
[18:37] <Unit193> WINE?
[18:38] <Derath-Srvr> I don't think I'd even do that...
[18:58] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[18:58] <Cheri703> thanks, just back to my room to figure out a taxi or public transit for a thing we're doing tonight :)
[19:11] <jgould> My brain hurts
[19:37] <TheErk> Greetings Programs.
[19:38] <Unit193> !hi | TheErk ;P
[19:39] <jgould> Oh, don't say hi to me... Heh
[19:40] <Unit193> I won't! Howdy jgould ;)
[19:40] <jgould> Heh.  How goes it today?
[19:41] <Unit193> Lubuntu will be part of the Ubuntu "family" for 11.10
[19:41] <jgould> What is Lubuntu?
[19:42] <jgould> Isn't the window manager in that even lighter than XFCE?
[19:44] <Unit193> LXDE is lighter than XFCE (Or Lubuntu is more so than Xubuntu)
[19:45] <jgould> Hmm...  I wonder what it looks like
[19:45] <Unit193> Just a sec
[19:45] <Unit193> http://unit193.imgur.com/screenie
[19:46] <jgould> Is it the 7th screen shot
[19:47] <TheErk> What are the major differences in LXDE and XFCE?
[19:47]  * jgould wonders this as well
[19:48] <jgould> lxde's website seems to be broked
[19:49] <Unit193> It is (server change IIRC)
[19:49] <jgould> Does LXDE have a right click applications menu?
[19:49] <Unit193> It's the 7th...
[19:50] <jgould> I saw the lubuntu disk mounted when I enlarged it
[19:50] <Unit193> Running programs or "start" menu
[19:51] <Unit193> +?
[19:51] <jgould> a 'start' menu, like XFCE does
[19:53] <Unit193> It does support it, but it's not configured
[19:54] <Unit193> I take it you like and use this?
[19:54] <TheErk> I myself am the rare dreaded and hated Unity fan... ooogah boogah.
[19:55]  * Unit193 sets mode +b TheErk
[19:55] <Unit193> :D
[19:55] <TheErk> Heeey
[19:55] <Derath-Srvr> Hey Erk
[19:59] <jgould> Yes, I do like that, and use it
[20:02] <jgould> I may just install LXDE on my current install and play with it to see if I like it...
[20:02] <jgould> I love the SSO
[20:05] <jgould> Wow.  I'm forgetting how to do things in the Mac OS
[20:06] <TheErk> SSO?
[20:07] <jgould> Single Sign on
[20:08] <Unit193> With what? (I know SSO because of ldap/ActDir)
[20:09] <jgould> All of the services that Ubuntu offers (Namely the forurms... I just use my Launchpad SSO and I'm in...)
[20:52] <canthus13> finally got metasploit installed.. Now to see what kind of damage I can do to my practice server. :)
[20:52] <Unit193> SWEET! DVL?
[21:06] <Unit193> Now might be a good time to get a hostmask ;)
[21:22] <canthus13> Unit193: Yep.
[21:22]  * canthus13 has dvl running on a vm.
[21:41] <jgould> wow... I like LXDE
[21:44] <TheErk> Ubuntu One is angering me
[21:44] <jgould> Why?
[21:46] <TheErk> Reinstalled my OS, now the syncs are all goofy
[21:49] <jgould> I've had that happen before...  I'm currently trying to figure out how to get folders to sync from within Lubuntu
[21:50] <jgould> In some ways I miss the way the Mac OS Works, but in general, I'm very satisfied with Linux now
[21:51] <TheErk> brb i think i hosed soemthing
[21:52] <jgould> I've done that too...
[21:54] <Unit193> Quick get the fire... wait... I guess you don't reverse the saying... :D
[21:55] <jgould> what saying?
[21:56]  * jgould files himself under confused
[21:57] <TheErk> Smarter than the average bear.
[21:57] <jgould> You get it, TheErk
[21:58] <TheErk> Yes, you have to set up the sync from the Ubuntu One software..
[21:58] <TheErk> If you try to do it from the file manager it gets wonky
[21:59] <Unit193> I still need to figure out dropbox in L/XUbuntu...
[21:59] <Unit193> jgould: Still like LXDE?
[22:00] <jgould> yes, I do. does the CD have a live boot so I can see it without all of the stuff from the other two window managers installed?
[22:04] <Unit193> It's a LiveCD
[22:06] <jgould> ok.  I simpy installed lubunut desktop on the existing install
[22:07] <Unit193> 11.04? It looks much better then 10.10
[22:07] <jgould> yeah, 11.04
[22:08] <Unit193> If you want, you can also join -offtopic (And see me look like an idiot there too :) )
[22:08] <jgould> which -offtopic?
[22:09] <Unit193> #lubuntu-offtopic (also used as -devel)
[22:09] <jgould> ok
[22:12] <jgould> Ok,  the trackpad is sensitive in LXDE.  Must be an xorg setting I can change...
[22:49] <canthus13> Unit193: Lubuntu has a -offtopic too? Heh.
[22:49] <thafreak> canthus13: you ever use powerdns?
[22:53] <Unit193> canthus13: Double useage as it's almost -devel too! (And used WAY more ehan xubuntu-offtopic
[23:44] <canthus13> ocrap! packtrack 5 is out... how'd I miss that?
[23:44] <canthus13> ...Backtrack.
[23:45] <canthus13> thafreak: Never heard of it.