[00:00] <kenneth__> Guest80095, are you aware of how to set Chrome OS to dev mode without the stock bios?
[00:00] <usr13> linuxrealm: I thought you were talking about iwconfig.  But no, he installed pastebinit and at that point it became a valid command.
[00:00] <maxster> hello, question question. Anyone else has issues with the emulate middle click?
[00:00] <escott> muay-guy, there are various voip clients but skype uses a closed wire protocol and there are no other skype clients
[00:00] <jstoone> linuxrealm: oh, then I'm not paying attention again.. damnit.
[00:00] <kenneth__> Guest80095, without the stock bios, ChromeOS has no way of telling if the dev switch is flipped or not.
[00:00] <usr13> nmaxchat: What asked for an IP address.
[00:00] <kenneth__> Guest80095, so, it defaults to normal ChromeOS.
[00:00] <Guest80095> ,,,
[00:00] <linuxrealm> meh
[00:00] <Guest80095> yes it's better.
[00:00] <nmaxchat> usr13, My computer is making a funny beep
[00:01] <ParkerR> Atleast a yes or no would be nice, and if yes how to do it
[00:01] <ParkerR> *At least
[00:01] <jstoone> maxster: nopes... what mouse do you have?
[00:01] <kenneth__> Guest80095, do you have experience with ChromeOS?
[00:01] <nmaxchat> usr13, It was a error message
[00:01] <Sir_Gabriel> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.
[00:01] <jstoone> ParkerR: what's your question?
[00:01] <kenneth__> Guest80095, or rather, a CR-48 laptop?
[00:01] <JoeCoolDesk> Ubuntu: Least helpful community
[00:01] <jstoone> Sir_Gabriel: hmm..
[00:01] <ParkerR> jstoone, Is there a way to have downloads in Firefox have the executable bit marked on download? I liked how it did it before but if I read correctly there was a change in Nautilis that made internet downloads non executable until you changed the bit.
[00:01] <jstoone> one sec
[00:01] <usr13> nmaxchat: What does the error message say?
[00:01] <muay-guy> escott, ok, that's a bad thing then. I'm trying to help my wife fix this. Her bosses use skype since she works in a decentralized company and skype always crashes opn her, and for what Ive seen googling,... it's a common problem on 64 bit ubuntu systems
[00:01] <kenneth__> JoeCoolDesk, I'd try the forums.
[00:02] <nmaxchat> usr13, it has nothing to do with us
[00:02] <usr13> nmaxchat: Ok.  Well, you are connected now.  So what else can we do for you?
[00:02] <maxster> jstoone: laptop... i use allot the function of hitting both buttons to middle click, it stopped working in 11.04
[00:03] <linuxrealm> jstoone: for hours on end i would do pings and trbsht network connectivity, and i have a very simple howto, ping 4.2.2.2 and ping yahoo.com. that will tell you all, the rest of it all well, that comes later. the first thing to do is ping those 2 and 90% of the time, users will see its an NS issue usually, resolv.conf is janked or not getting the config with a gui tool like Network-Manager, prolly a radio button was not pressed 
[00:03] <Guest80095> with Chrome Osnot too much Kenneth__
[00:03] <escott> muay-guy, you could try installing ubuntu 32bit, or running skype inside a windows vm, but its a closed source program and the skype company doesn't keep it up to date with all the linux libraries
[00:03] <ParkerR> Be right back, jstoone, have to go pick up dinner
[00:03] <enrique_> #ubuntu-charlas
[00:03] <muay-guy> escott, yeah, I know. And shes not quite fancy on windows
[00:04] <linuxrealm> static configs are most likely the culprit. wrong gateway, typo, dns entered wrong, buttons not checked, yadda...
[00:04] <kenneth__> Guest80095, yeah, it's pretty odd on a normal setup. I think it's possible my wireless card could have been overheating...maybe the problem has just gone away now.
[00:04] <jstoone> ParkerR: You could make a script and then add it to the cron tab? or an alias that executes the command for you
[00:04] <jstoone> ParkerR: kk
[00:04] <Minnen> lets start by saying that i tought i have installed GRUB2 and turns out im not.... im still using legacy
[00:04] <Minnen> progress
[00:04] <kenneth__> Guest80095, thanks anyway Guest80095. You wouldn't happen to be aware of any logs I can refer to would you?
[00:04] <muay-guy> escott, "quite fond"..not an english speaker
[00:04] <kenneth__> Guest80095, like, where would input/output errors appear?
[00:04] <jstoone> linuxrealm: go on..
[00:04] <sickvic> Is there a specific room fro printing/network issues?
[00:04] <Guest80095> mmm
[00:04] <Guest80095> try to do this
[00:05] <Guest80095> open a terminal and write
[00:05] <jstoone> sickvic: you're here ;)
[00:05] <Guest80095> iwconfig
[00:05] <sickvic> jstoone: Perfect! :)
[00:05] <usr13> sickvic: I don't think so, but there prolly should be  :)
[00:05] <victorhugo289> Guys, if you're directly connected to the Internet, how can yu have 2 ip addresses, one WAn and LAN?
[00:05] <usr13> sickvic: What is your problem?
[00:05] <jstoone> sickvic: as long as it is ubuntu related then you're welcome to ask (:
[00:06] <sickvic> Running natty. ufw's disabled, yet I still can't get to linuxserv:631 in order to add my printer to my Mac.
[00:06] <Sir_Gabriel> I wish I had a better error code or something. if it was windows I'd take ownership and it would be good probably...
[00:06] <victorhugo289> One of my computers has a Private IP address "10.89...etc"
[00:06] <usr13> sickvic: localhost:631
[00:06] <victorhugo289> but it's only connected to a switch to a cable modem.
[00:06] <victorhugo289> And it had previously shown a public ip address.
[00:06] <sickvic> usr13: I can do it locally, but not over the network, and I've modified cupsd.conf to allow @LOCAL to browse.
[00:06] <victorhugo289> Did the ISP modify it?
[00:07] <stlrocker> jstoone, 11.04 using classic  custom admin has weather in clock  defined second user...  that account only has clock and nothing else
[00:07] <victorhugo289> I did IP lookup and it shows that I have 2 ip addreses
[00:07] <victorhugo289> One WAn one LAn
[00:07] <mrta1> Hi. I'm having problems with the restricted nvidia driver from the repo. It is auto setting my refresh rate/ resolution to be auto and this is causing the monitors application to show it as 50hz. If I set it (with sudo) within nvidia-settings as 60hz it resets after a reboot and the monitors application shows it as 142hz. Does anyone have any ideas how I would solve this problem?
[00:07] <Sir_Gabriel> well, I don't ahve more time for this now. thanks anyways guys =0)
[00:07] <victorhugo289> that's weird, the LAn ip address has space for 502 hosts
[00:07] <kzman> hi waht's the difference between kubuntu full, desktop and mobile?
[00:07] <Relevant> guys whats going on
[00:07] <jstoone> Sir_Gabriel: you're welcome
[00:07] <Relevant> My pc has always been slow
[00:08] <usr13> sickvic: o
[00:08] <moneal> Question: Is it possible to set the status in empathy via a command?
[00:08] <escott> muay-guy, the problem is you dont know if the hangs are from audio, video or networking
[00:08] <victorhugo289> I cannot ping this computer
[00:08] <Relevant> I recently, Cleaned up my Harddrive, Virus scanned, Spyware Scanned, DEFAGED deleted my old account and make a new user profile, Removed loads of programs, and now its literly like 5x faster
[00:08] <RudeTux> hi everibody, anyone can help me with some problems regarding Myhtbuntu?
[00:09] <escott> muay-guy, you can do some LD_PRELOAD stuff to force skype to use things like v4l2 which might help
[00:09] <RudeTux> hi everibody, anyone can help me with some problems regarding Mythbuntu?
[00:09] <jstoone> one sec
[00:09] <Relevant> i just dont understand why i dident know this can speed up a pc so much before xD
[00:09] <jstoone> argh sorry guys didn't mean to hit enter ;)
[00:09] <nmaxchat> usr13, usr13, Am I connected ?
 usr13, my browser tell me I am not connected
 usr13, My cable does not reach fasr enough. Its either I am plugged into the wall or either I catch wifi
[00:09] <usr13> sickvic: Did you restart cups?
[00:09] <linuxrealm> lolol
[00:09] <usr13> sickvic: Did you restart cupsd?
[00:10] <_numbers> when my linux server fails to boot for some lame reason that can be fixed via vim, how can i boot to a CLI? i know livecds work but cant i also press some key during boot?
[00:10] <sickvic> usr13: Yep
[00:10] <linuxrealm> this is just getting and better by the second
[00:10] <nmaxchat> usr13, are there manual settings I can use ?
[00:10] <usr13> nmaxchat: host av.com
[00:10] <linuxrealm> usr13: walk him thru wireless settings next :)
[00:10] <jahsun> hey guys having problems getting unity working. installed new vid card w/512mb and 3d w/ shading, activated the drivers but no unity...any ideas?
[00:10] <muay-guy> escott, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you meant by LD_PRELOAD
[00:10] <victorhugo289> Well, on other issues, I downloaded Clonezilla
[00:10] <muay-guy> I'm definitely not that cool
[00:10] <usr13> nmaxchat: what does  host av.com  say?
[00:10] <linuxrealm> gets out his little bag of crumbs
[00:10] <RudeTux> anyone plz?
[00:10] <usr13> linuxrealm: He does not have wireless.
[00:11] <linuxrealm> mm mmm yummy crumbs
[00:11] <victorhugo289> hi
[00:11] <escott> muay-guy, it forces skype to use the libraries by remapping the function calls
[00:11] <linuxrealm> usr13: you didnt get it when i asked him to ping and what response,,, and still he has not answered... lol
[00:11] <escott> muay-guy, export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3
[00:11] <escott> LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[00:12] <nmaxchat> usr13, http://pastebin.com/JAQ28axY
[00:12] <muay-guy> where do you config that?
[00:12] <victorhugo289> I killed this guy.
[00:12] <Tiktalik> My left mouse button suddenly stopped working.
[00:12] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, I know I am slow.
[00:12] <jstoone> Tiktalik: tried replugging?
[00:13] <Tiktalik> I tried using a different mouse, but that didn't work either
[00:13] <linuxrealm> nah
[00:13] <linuxrealm> your not slow
[00:13] <linuxrealm> i said enjoy, and i meant it
[00:13] <Tiktalik> jstoone: I'm not *that* stupid.
[00:13] <victorhugo289> Maybe your finger stopped working?
[00:13] <victorhugo289> haha, just kidding
[00:13] <Tiktalik> victorhugo289: No, I'm typing this using my mouse clicking finger
[00:13] <usr13> nmaxchat: Ok it is resolving domain names.  Not sure what the problem is, but if you sent that info from the PC you are working on, it is (as you see),  resolving the nomain name av.com
[00:14] <Tiktalik> So that's not the problem.
[00:14] <nmaxchat> usr13, I am not physically plugged in now
[00:14] <nmaxchat> usr13, Should I go back and plugin ?
[00:14]  * RudeTux asks if someone can help with mythbuntu, and if not - where should help be requested?
[00:14] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: Did you restart or reinstall just before it stopped?
[00:14] <comthre3>  anyone with some experience with uShare on ubuntu? for some reason, i can see all the folders on my ps3, but the media files arent being shared. all the folders are empty, the dlna mode is on the ps3 and my other player see the folders and all, but no files. any help would be appreciated
[00:14] <aixo> is there a firewall friendly (no configuration required) solution for a remote desktop support application in gnu/linux that is fully free (as in freedom)? i can setup server software on a vps for such firewall friendly functionality if required.
[00:14] <usr13> nmaxchat: Well, yes if you want a connection, plug it in.
[00:14] <jstoone> Tiktalik: Haha, no offence mate, I made the mistake yesterday, that my scroll-wheel was going WAAY to fast, and I was googleing ang goolging and then one said that replugging helped and I thought like... NOOOO!
[00:14] <tripelb> tensa_zangetsu, did it all. tested video. video does not show in skype. lists my cam as USB Camera (046d:08dd) (/dev/video0)
[00:15] <Tiktalik> jstoone: not like I could replug anyway, it's a touchpad
[00:15] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: Vaio?
[00:15] <mrta1> Hi. I'm having problems with the restricted nvidia driver from the repo. It is auto setting my refresh rate/ resolution to be auto and this is causing the monitors application to show it as 50hz. If I set it (with sudo) within nvidia-settings as 60hz it resets after a reboot and the monitors application shows it as 142hz. Does anyone have any ideas how I would solve this problem?
[00:15] <jstoone> Tiktalik: ye, you got something there..
[00:15] <ugur> hi all
[00:16] <linuxrealm> here trolly trolly, good little trolly crumbs for you, yum yum,,
[00:16] <Tiktalik> EGuinn: It worked fine on 10.10 before. I have no clue why it stopped working.
[00:16] <EGuinn> mrta1: I have had experience with those drivers. They are awful. Ignore most things they say.
[00:16] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: Are you using a Vaio though?
[00:16] <Tiktalik> EGuinn: No.
[00:16] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: Okay. That is not the problem then.
[00:16] <nmaxchat> usr13, still no browser
[00:16] <tripelb> Logitech Quickcam for Notebooks, older, Ub.10.04 -- Video does not show in skype which lists my cam as USB Camera (046d:08dd) (/dev/video0)  -- works in Cheese.
[00:16] <jstoone> linuxrealm: are you trying to troll or have you spotted one? (:
[00:16] <nmaxchat> usr13, Is there a manual set up that would get me running on cable 4 now
[00:17] <ugur> Do you have someone from Turkey
[00:17] <linuxrealm> what kinda of question is that?
[00:17] <linuxrealm> sounds loaded
[00:18] <sickvic> OK - I found my old cupsd.conf from lucid and I can manage the printers remotely now.
[00:18] <sickvic> Must've missed something in cupds.conf...
[00:18] <mrta1> EGuinn: the thing is it occasionally causes the screen to flicker
[00:18] <nmaxchat> usr13, When I am on the chat, I am not connected via cable
[00:18] <jstoone> linuxrealm: haha, just spotted your "here trolly trolly[...]" comment, and I thought hmm.. not good.
[00:18] <excelsio1> sup
[00:18] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, can you tell me why the clock/weather behaves differently between custom/admin user accnt and "user" accnt?
[00:18] <Tiktalik> EGuinn: I think I might have a synaptics touchpad
[00:19] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, both are using gnome classic
[00:19] <EGuinn> mrta1: Yeah -- Have you entered the XConfig recently and poked around?
[00:19] <jstoone> sickvic: glad to hear that you got it figured! now it's time to compare the two .conf's
[00:19] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: no
[00:19] <stlrocker> thanks linuxrealm
[00:19] <excelsio1> Pasting into the text body field in Yahoo mail, gmail, Ubuntu Forums forms, or Zotero notes in firefox doesn't work whether I use ctrl-v or right click, paste. It does work when I paste in a subject field, or a search box. Why am I having these problems with my clipboard?
[00:20] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: All I know is that the sony Vaio does not work with 11.04. I could take a stab at the problem though, with google.
[00:20] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: are you connected to the net as Root?
[00:20] <mrta1> EGuinn: I am running 11.04 and believed that Xconig was depreciated
[00:20] <Minnen> escott, GRUB problem solved
[00:20] <Minnen> :)
[00:20] <Minnen> thanks for the info
[00:20] <EGuinn> mrta1: Duh... Of course it has. That was a really dumb question.
[00:20] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: whats the heck is a custom/admin user?
[00:21] <Minnen> Overwriting the Master Boot Record was the solution
[00:21] <Minnen> from a 11.04 LiveCD
[00:21] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: are you saying you have two users, one is custom and the other is a very low privilege user?
[00:21] <jstoone> linuxrealm: been thinking the same.
[00:21] <usr13> mrta1: EGuinn   What is    Xconig ?
[00:21] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: I found this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743768 -- Don't know if it will help though.
[00:21] <linuxrealm> i sorta see what he is saying, but i will clarify first
[00:21] <EGuinn> usr13: It is the settings interface for the Xserver UI
[00:21] <tbruff13> hey my school just opened up a guest network for students to use, but i was told that linux was not allowed because it is considered to be a hacking OS and therefore is banned. Is Ubuntu all legal
[00:21] <Klevi> Hey all, trying to use wubi to make a 32 bit ubuntu installer from a 64bit machine. (Windows 7) I've downloaded the i386 USB installer from the main page, but when using wubi to install to my pendrive it downloads the amd64 ISO. How do I get around that? usb-creator wont use the iso I just downloaded for some reason to make a startup disk, either.
[00:21] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, when your first user is created... it is "admin" and is under "custom"   when I created the second accnt on the machine.. I put in group "users" only
[00:21] <EGuinn> usr13: It is also called XConfig, but oh well.
[00:22] <Tiktalik> EGuinn: thanks
[00:22] <jstoone> excelsio1: have you tried to do alt+v  sometimes works for me, dunno why but sometimes it changes between applications
[00:22] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: i undertstand... continue...
[00:22] <usr13> EGuinn: Oh.  Like xorgsetup ?
[00:22] <jrib> tbruff13: discuss it with your school
[00:22] <EGuinn> Tiktalik: No problem. I am on this IRC channel for a reason.
[00:22] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: how did you put it in? gui or manually
[00:22] <EGuinn> usr13: I am pretty sure, yes.
[00:22] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, gui
[00:22] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: did you use adduser
[00:22] <usr13> EGuinn: Yea, XConfig  ok, I think I remember.
[00:23] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, yes
[00:23] <linuxrealm> ok, so your in system > admin > users/groups
[00:23] <usr13> EGuinn: Just creates an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[00:23] <tbruff13> jrib, I was told that if can prove that ubuntu is entirely legal i can use my laptop
[00:23] <EGuinn> usr13: Yes.
[00:23] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: and you simply put your "other" user in group what?
[00:23] <linuxrealm> users?
[00:23] <jrib> tbruff13: the only way to prove something is legal is to go to court
[00:23] <nmaxchat> usr13, when I go into network manager, under IPV4 and 6 there is nothing
[00:23] <stlrocker> right now... I am in the second user  and he was just put in group "users"   no admin privileges
[00:23] <mrta1> EGuinn: no problem. do you have any other ideas? Searching on google brought up no relevant results for this.
[00:24] <jstoone> tbruff13: just show them ubuntu.com + the license aggreement (:
[00:24] <jrib> tbruff13: but you might try explaining that linux powers most of the internet, used by companies like google and wikipedia, and is also what android phones run
[00:24] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: stop right there!! do not addusers or groups on the fly like that... the way ubuntu/gnome has put things together, its all intertwined, and you really should readup a little bit on perms in a gui b4 treading there...
[00:24] <tbruff13> jrib, I am asking is there anything ubuntu uses that would be a red flag for a school something I should point out
[00:24] <linuxrealm> i dont even use that gui tool, it scares me
[00:24] <EGuinn> mrta1: Let me take another stab with the google machine. I am generally good with it.
[00:24] <Klevi> tbruff13, proabably not.
[00:24] <Klevi> *-a
[00:25] <jrib> tbruff13: I don't understand that question.  If there's some sort of disallowed activity you could do it on any OS
[00:25] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: so your question was, the diff between how the clock/weather is configured? correct
[00:25] <jstoone> tbruff13: nope
[00:25] <usr13> tbruff13: Depends on what you have installed on it.  Some applications my be offensive to the network admin(s) (and maybe just because they don't like it).
[00:25] <excelsio1> jstoone: I'm sorry, alt-v gives me the view menu.
[00:25] <mrta1> EGuinn: thanks. I spent quite a while and especially couldn't figure out why monitor was showing the refresh rate as 142hz when it was set to 60hz in nvidia-settings
[00:26] <EGuinn> mrta1: This should help. Do a search for nVidia restricted drivers --> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty
[00:26] <stlrocker> linuxrealm, yes.. it there is weather display and pref choices in admin account but not the "user" account
[00:26] <jstoone> excelsio1: yea, that happens too (: - I'm no use right now, I think (:
[00:26] <linuxrealm> they are diff users, they log into their own desktops, they both have diff configs and perms about the system. how much of a diff is there?
[00:26] <tbruff13> Klevi, I was asked how ubuntu connects to the internet if it will go around firewalls they dont want that to happen will ubuntu with no additional configuration hack internet connections
[00:26]  * RudeTux thanks for all the help nobody provided...yeah...thaths the spirit folks
[00:26] <Minnen> Guys a quick poll so i can make up my head of what i want to use - Wich dev soft u think is better Anjuta or Gambas
[00:26] <jrib> tbruff13: these seem like lazy/ignorant claims
[00:26] <fosc0_> !ot | tbruff13
[00:26] <excelsio1> I'm wondering why I can't find any example of this problem affecting anyone else in either the forums or google's search results.
[00:26] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: thats cuz the programmers figured they dont want an unpriv user mucking with the clock settings, makes sense
[00:26] <Klevi> tbruff13, default configuration in Ubuntu is basic DHCP.
[00:26] <fosc0_> !poll | Minnen
[00:27] <nmaxchat> usr13, Which settings should I have under editing Auto eth0?
[00:27] <jstoone> linuxrealm: he just want his weather widget.. yea..
[00:27] <fosc0_> !linuxre
[00:27] <sickvic> OK. I can manage the printer remotely, but I still can't print from my Mac to my Linux print queue...
[00:27] <tbruff13> Klevi, ok i will tell them that thank you
[00:27] <usr13> tbruff13: There are plenty of applications on any given Linux system that could be used in malicious way, but you can say that about a MS Windows system as well.
[00:27] <linuxrealm> stlrocker: the diff, they are perm'd differently. add weather with the "admin" user, and the "other should be there after logging in
[00:27] <stlrocker> jstoone, that is correct in the "clock 2.32.1"   seems there is a indicator-weather I can push up
[00:27] <Klevi> Unless your school uses a software proxy on their windows boxes to websense content, there isnt much you couldnt do just as well on windows to get around their stuff tbruff13
[00:27] <kingofswords> hi
[00:28] <Klevi> oh he left.
[00:28] <kingofswords> windows has disapeared from my boot menu after resizing it with gparted
[00:28] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Yep, that will happen. That sucks dude. You just lost your entire windows side.
[00:28] <kingofswords> ive tried to repair using recovery but am unable to get it to repair...anyone have any ideas
[00:28] <xangua> kingofswords: when you are modifying partitons, make sure to make a copy of data ;)
[00:29] <jstoone> kingofswords: oh oh...
[00:29] <kingofswords> EGuinn, why will this happen?
[00:29] <EGuinn> kingofswords: That is unrecoverable, I believe. NTFS is no good for resizing.
[00:29] <kingofswords> oh
[00:29] <Mitsukaru> lol Klevi. when you plug ubuntu into the internet, it immediately starts haxoring your connections.
[00:29] <Diamondcite> kingofswords: Assuming you haven't written anything to the windows side.. a liveCD with testdisk should be able to re-write the older partition table
[00:29] <kingofswords> well all the files and install are still there...it just boot menu gone
[00:29] <Mitsukaru> ubuntu is in your tubes, haxing your firewalls
[00:29] <Klevi> Mitsukaru, lol clearly.
[00:29] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Oh!
[00:29] <EGuinn> kingofswords: That is recoverable then.
[00:30] <jstoone> kingofswords: I'm so sorry about your loss, pff.. worst thing..
[00:30] <usr13> EGuinn: It usually works ok, ...only once in a while does it blow up.
[00:30] <kingofswords> is teskdisk a program installed on live cd?
[00:30] <sickvic> Actually, it works via samba now. Can't get ipp working, but that I can print at all is the key.
[00:30] <jstoone> kingofswords: wow.. that was lucky..
[00:30] <EGuinn> kingofswords: You should be able to recover that with a MBR editor.
[00:30] <sickvic> usr13: Thanks for the hand-holding.  :)
[00:30] <kingofswords> yeh im having trouble revovering the mbr via windows disk
[00:30] <nmaxchat> usr13, Which settings should I have under editing Auto eth0?
[00:30] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Windows sucks. That is why.
[00:30] <tbruff13> ok one more question I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and then found a neat way to downgrade if i wanted to post this method on the wiki how would i go about doing that
[00:31] <kingofswords> i have a ssd drive so have to use a modified ver of xp ..ie  usb version
[00:31] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Just find a nice MBR editor for Ubuntu, and win!
[00:31] <mrta1> EGuinn: unfortunately that didn't provide any new information and still referenced xorg.
[00:31] <xangua> !downgrade | tbruff13
[00:31] <kingofswords> ahhh EGuinn  didnt know there is such a thing
[00:31] <EGuinn> mrta1: Sorry man. All I could find as well. You seem to have a relatively unique problem.
[00:31] <ParkerR> jstoone, Cron tab?
[00:31] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm,I lost usr13. What settings should I have uder IPV4 and 6 ?
[00:31] <kingofswords> so i can restore it in my ubuntu?
[00:31] <EGuinn> kingofswords: I don't know any. But you should be able to, yes.
[00:32] <tbruff13> xangua, I know but I figured out a way to downgrade and still keep all of the user configurations that works every time i tested it
[00:32] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Probably... for your sake I hope so.
[00:32] <kingofswords> ok thanks for help EGuinn
[00:32] <EGuinn> kingofswords: NO problem.
[00:32] <kingofswords> i know i need to fixboot, fixmbr via cmd prompt....but i cant get into it via xp disk
[00:32] <OerHeks> testdisk is part of the gparted iso
[00:33] <usr13> tbruff13: You might discuss it on a ubuntu forum
[00:33] <nmaxchat> can anyone tell me what my settings should be for a cable ethernet connection under IPV4 and 6 and 801.x security be ?
[00:33] <usr13> !forum
[00:33] <tbruff13> okay
[00:33] <jstoone> ParkerR: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/bcrontab.5.html - if I've understood it right, you can add a script to cron tab, and and tell it to e.g execute this script every 5 minutes or every day at 5'o clock
[00:34] <zvacet> kingofswords: I just started here so can you boot windows
[00:34] <kingofswords> no
[00:34] <Quyen> hey, does anyone have installed ubuntu via usb on a macbook?
[00:34] <kingofswords> zvacet, no
[00:34] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Just use a livecd.
[00:34] <Quyen> terrible grammar
[00:34] <Quyen> well, my drive pooped out on me
[00:34] <kingofswords> for testdisk?
[00:35] <wideyes> anyone have a suggestion for a channel where I can get help with an internet gateway / proxy server setup?
[00:35] <jstoone> kingofswords: remember this: real men don't backup they CRY! (terrible joke, but sadly happens to often for people)
[00:35] <ParkerR> jstoone, That is a grand idea. I might be able to do it with Ubuntu scheduler
[00:35] <I-are-> can anyone help me determine why a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10 on an old compaq laptop is very slow. eth0 is only pulling about 30 B/s average, 176 B/s is the max I have gotten.  It seemed to work fine when running windows.
[00:35] <xangua> I-are-: 9.10 is no longer supported
[00:35] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/connecting-wired.html
[00:35] <usr13> wideyes: You can try your question here...
[00:35] <ParkerR> jstoone, Thanks
[00:35] <kingofswords> lol i have nothing to back up on.....also nothing that important to back up
[00:35] <mrta1> EGuinn: from your knowledge, does running a laptops lcd at 50hz instead of the regular 60hz  have the possiblity of causing a problem?
[00:35] <jrib> !9.10 | I-are-
[00:35] <jstoone> ParkerR: Haven't used it before but yea (:
[00:35] <stlrocker> linuxrealm and jstoone   thanks for your time  i'll keep playing with this
[00:35] <blargg> During shutdown, I'd like to give the hard disk more time to spin down before the system is powered off. Any ideas?
[00:35] <EGuinn> kingofswords: You should be able to get whatever MBR editor you need on it. Wait -- do you have a working install of Ubuntu?
[00:35] <kingofswords> yes
[00:35] <EGuinn> kingofswords: You should be able to use that then.
[00:36] <kingofswords> its 10.04 lts alternate thou
[00:36] <Quyen> oh also, if you get busybox, message what should I do?
[00:36] <I-are-> xangua, I know it is not supported, but why would the network crap out? I tried installing 11.4 but it froze.
[00:36] <ParkerR> jstoone, Can chmod do a recursive mark? Like chmod -x <foldername>
[00:36] <OerHeks> Quyen, maybe this wiki is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[00:36] <jstoone> stlrocker: Well, you're welcome - credit goes to linuxrealm (:
[00:36] <EGuinn> kingofswords: That will still work.
[00:36] <kingofswords> alternate doesnt have livecd..but i have one of 9.1
[00:36] <jstoone> ParkerR: You know what, have you played around with aliases before?
[00:36] <ParkerR> I don't think so
[00:37] <zvacet> kingofswords: you can boot ubuntu but not windows and you use grub is that right
[00:37] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Is it on the ruined partition?
[00:37] <blargg> ParkerR, man chmod sure suggests that there is a recursive option.
[00:37] <wideyes> fair enough. I'm trying to get a clear diagram in my head of how to route a transparent proxy server running squid. I think I'm close, but I'm having difficulty with DNS. I'm hoping someone can clarify how DNS is handled in a transparent proxy setting, and more specifically using squid3
[00:37] <EGuinn> zvacet: Yup, that is what I thought.
[00:37] <ParkerR> blargg, Would that be the command?
[00:37] <nmaxchat> can anyone tell me the settings I need to ender in network manager for IPv4 and IP v6 ? I have scroll down menus ?
[00:37] <blargg> ParkerR, type man man at the commandline.
[00:37] <kingofswords> zvacet,  thats correct...ive just reinstalled grub after trying to get into windowsxp recovery
[00:37] <kingofswords> EGuinn,  no ruined partition..just ruined mbr i beleive
[00:37] <EGuinn> kingofswords: If you still have the files, fixing the MBR won't be a problem.
[00:38] <ParkerR> blargg, jstoone Thanks be right back. I'll switch into Ubuntu
[00:38] <zvacet> kingofswords: and after reinstalling grub you can not boot in windows strange
[00:38] <kingofswords> thats what i was hoping
[00:38] <jstoone> ParkerR: Good idea ;)
[00:38] <kingofswords> zvacet, yeh
[00:38] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Then you must be a happy man!
[00:38] <kingofswords> not yet
[00:38] <jrib> ParkerR: why would you want downloads to always be executable?  Don't you download files that aren't meant to be executed?
[00:38] <Kaorius> kingofswords: Does update-grub say anything about finding your windows?
[00:39] <kingofswords> zvacet, I INCREASED xp partition in gparted and deleted a fat partition that held setup files for windows as i installed from usbstick
[00:39] <Mitsukaru> oooh, good idea Kaorius. kingofswords, run the command "sudo update-grub" in the terminal.
[00:39] <ParkerR> jrib, I don't download amny things and when I do I know what I am using
[00:39] <ParkerR> *many
[00:39] <EGuinn> kingofswords: Well, that is probably where you killed the MBR.
[00:39] <kingofswords> Kaorius, it was update-grub that got rid of xp in boot menu....it was there b4 but just didnt work
[00:39] <jrib> ParkerR: what you are attempting to do does not make much sense to me
[00:40]  * eLiam ponders a game where the aim is to kill the mbr
[00:40] <kingofswords> EGuinn, problem is i cant get into the installing xp screen so therefore cant use the repair/recovery thing
[00:40] <jstoone> ParkerR: are you useing bash as shell?
[00:40] <ParkerR> jrib, Have downloaded files automatically marked as executable
[00:40] <ParkerR> bash
[00:40] <blargg> eLiam, I wonder whether a badly-redirected echo would do the trick...
[00:41] <ParkerR> Still have to restart :P
[00:41] <jrib> ParkerR: I understand *what* you want to do but cannot fathom *why*
[00:41] <Kaorius> eLiam: Reminds me of that ps-doom game where you ran around your system shooting your processes (killing them) like it was doom.
[00:41] <EGuinn> kingofswords: It won't even boot the windows disk?
[00:41] <OerHeks> kingofswords, if that partition you installed from, comes before your xp partition, and you increased the xp partition wit this space, .. i understand you nagged your xp
[00:41] <kingofswords> i was told my windows is on a logical partition and needs to be changed to primary
[00:41] <jstoone> ParkerR: pff.. go on then ;)
[00:41] <blargg> jrib, couldn't he just run Windows if wants everything marked as executable? <ducks>
[00:41] <ParkerR> jrib, I hate the popup saying the executable bit is not marked. Reminds me too much of Windows :)
[00:42] <kingofswords> OerHeks, no i increased with ubuntu space and just deleted the fat space...but yes it did come b4
[00:42] <eLiam> Kaorius, Yes.  Wasn't there one where you could shoot files and they really got deleted too/
[00:42] <blargg> ParkerR, I was actually thinking of writing a little script to have in the context popup in nautilus, that marks the file as executable
[00:42] <kingofswords> EGuinn, no
[00:42] <jstoone> ParkerR: blargg: also it's important to stay a little lazy :P
[00:42] <Kaorius> eLiam: Don't remember, I just remember seeing that and laughing.
[00:42] <EGuinn> kingofswords: You should be able to fix it with an MBR editor. Just search for one on Google -- as you obviously have a working comp with internet connectivity.
[00:43] <kingofswords> yeh even the windows partition shows up(increased size) in ubuntu too
[00:43] <Tiktalik> Goodbye, ubuntu
[00:43] <Tiktalik> I'll miss you slightly
[00:43] <Tiktalik> :(
[00:43] <EGuinn> kingofswords: GET AN MBR EDITOR! Just look for one on google!
[00:43] <kingofswords> EGuinn, yeh i am
[00:44] <kingofswords> cant see any yet
[00:44] <EGuinn> kingofswords: That should fix your problem then. Just take a look at its man page, and you win.
[00:44] <I-are-> ok well I guess I will try 10.04. *getting tired of wasting dvd's
[00:44] <darkorical> so new level of dumb question ... I just installed phpmyadmin via apt and http://myserver/phpmyadmin didnt work to access it anyone know what IM doing wrong ?
[00:44] <sling-media-help> Does anyone know how to get sling media to work on ubuntu
[00:44] <KM0201> I-are-: why do you think 10.04 will work, vs 10.10 or 11.04?
[00:44] <jstoone> blargg: I think it would be better if he just made an alias in his .bashrc or .profile that says   "runnable=chmod a+x ~/Downloads/*"
[00:45] <zvacet> kingofswords: I found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622828 hope it will help
[00:45] <eLiam> darkorical, a2ensite phpmyadmin or some such?
[00:45] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, That is my level of instructions. But How do I know " and enter your IP address and other details. Enter the address of your DNS server too."
[00:45] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, What IP address etc do I enter?
[00:45] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, linuxrealm, That is my level of instructions. But How do I know " and enter your IP address and other details. Enter the address of your DNS server too."
 linuxrealm, What IP address etc do I enter
[00:45] <FloodBot1> nmaxchat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <I-are-> KM0201, 11.04 freezes, for some reason and I don't know much about 10.10  figured that LTS might work better.
[00:45] <darkorical> I-are- save DVDs set up a bootable USB
[00:45] <KM0201> I-are-: LTS has nothing to do with "working better"...
[00:45] <kingofswords> zvacet,  thank you=)
[00:45] <I-are-> I don't think this old laptop can boot from usb.
[00:45] <KM0201> I-are-: can your machine not boot USB's?
[00:45] <zvacet> kingofswords: thank me if it work  ;)
[00:45] <ParkerR> Back
[00:46] <kingofswords> lol
[00:46] <jstoone> ParkerR: Cool
[00:46] <EGuinn> zvacet: lol
[00:46] <KM0201> I-are-: you might be amazed, my laptop is almost 7yrs old, and it boots USB
[00:46] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, What do I enter under DNS servers and search doamins ?
[00:46] <ParkerR> So man man or mand chmod?
[00:46] <ParkerR> *man
[00:46] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: 4.2.2.2
[00:46] <jstoone> ParkerR: if you want the manpage of chmod then it's "man chmod"
[00:47] <EGuinn> Goodbye all, restarting...
[00:47] <excelsio1> I figured it out. One must hold down ctrl + super button +v in order to paste.
[00:47] <Kaorius> ParkerR: man man will tell you what the man command does, man chmod will tell you what chmod (and it's options) do.
[00:47] <ParkerR> Ahh
[00:47] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, and unders search domains ?
[00:47] <excelsio1> jstoone: did you catch that?
[00:47]  * ParkerR reads on :)
[00:47] <blargg> Read man man to learn to fish, then you can figure out how to get info about chmod.
[00:47] <nowinter> anyone else having massive issues with 11.04 and broadcom 4321?
[00:47] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: empty
[00:47] <[dlp]> My graphics drivers aren't working properly since Natty.
[00:48] <jstoone> ParkerR: do you want to hear my suggestion to your "exacutable bit" :D
[00:48] <ParkerR> Yay there is a recursive option
[00:48] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, The apply box is greyed out
[00:48] <ParkerR> jstoone, Sure
[00:48] <[dlp]> GLX isn't getting hardware acceleration.
[00:48] <OerHeks> nowinter, no i just had to intall bcm43xx firmware installer and all is fine
[00:48] <jstoone> excelsio1: Yea, I use the man pages all the time :D but clean and bright explaination (: thanks
[00:48] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: cool
[00:49] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, It aslks for an ip address
[00:49] <excelsio1> jstoone: man pages?
[00:49] <[dlp]> Any ideas?
[00:49] <nowinter> OerHeks: I have been through both the b43 cutter installs and the STA (even the deb from 10.10) and though I see eth1..it never connects
[00:49] <excelsio1> jstoone: in the terminal? for what?
[00:49] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: whats your ip address?
[00:49] <[dlp]> Is an i915.
[00:49] <jstoone> excelsio1: sorry misread (: and where the hell is the "superbutton?"
[00:50] <Jasonn> What is the httpd command for Ubuntu?
[00:50] <Jasonn> for apache2??
[00:50] <SpooK^> jstoone, john stone?
[00:50] <Jasonn> I need to run httpd -S
[00:50] <ParkerR> superbutton is the Windows key
[00:50] <excelsio1> jstoone: it's the one with the penguin on it, or maybe the ubuntu sticker... :)
[00:50] <[dlp]> lsmod shows the driver as loaded.
[00:50] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, 178.237.82.22
[00:50] <sling-media-help> anyone use sling media on ubuntu? If so can you please help me.
[00:50] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: can i log into your network?
[00:50] <eLiam> [dlp] graphics seem ok for me...
[00:50] <[dlp]> Perhaps X has picked up the wrong driver?
[00:50] <nowinter> interesting stuff in syslog as well: <info> (eth1): device state change: 9 -> 3 (reason 0) <info> (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 0).
[00:50] <musix_new_user> hola gente
[00:50] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, yes What do U need ?
[00:50] <musix_new_user> hay alguien
[00:51] <Jasonn> !es | musix_new_user
[00:51] <xangua> !anyone | sling-media-help
[00:51] <[dlp]> Nope, I'm only getting software GL by the looks of things.
[00:51] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: enable browser management to your router port 8080
[00:51] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: i need access
[00:51] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, Where do I do that ?
[00:51] <[dlp]> No idea how the newer X servers are configured, either.
[00:51] <z3r0n0id> anyone update to 11.04?
[00:52] <ParkerR> z3r0n0id, I have
[00:52] <zeta-_> Hi everyone, I recently updated to 11.04 -- now X only gets as far as wallpaper, then repeatedly logs DDC gathered mode lines.
[00:52] <zeta-_> Any know why I don't get a desktop?
[00:52] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: you log into your ip of your router, and open up port 8080 on the wan to your computer your on right now
[00:52] <eLiam> z3r0n0id, yes
[00:52] <z3r0n0id> ParkerR, do you like it?
[00:52] <ParkerR> Not too bad
[00:52] <jstoone> ParkerR: Alias Solution: We'll make an alias - aliases is a basicly a "covername" for an action- e.g we could call our alias "dl-runnable" and it would be equal the action "chmod a+x ~/Downloads/*"
[00:52] <[dlp]> Well, if anyone can help diagnose this one... would be appreciative.
[00:52] <[dlp]> Don't mind hacking a little to make it work.
[00:52] <ParkerR> jstoone, Oooh nice
[00:52] <ParkerR> Go on :)
[00:52] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, I am connected directly to the wall socket when on ethernet and now, only by wifi
[00:52] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: type your user name and password of a privledged user so anyone of us can log into your computer and help you
[00:53] <[dlp]> But I really don't get the newer X servers.
[00:53] <z3r0n0id> eLiam, do you like it? is it worth updating yet?
[00:53] <ParkerR> jstoone, What does a+x do. I was thinking chmod -x -r ~/Downloads/
[00:53] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: just give us access so we can look at all your configs and you wont have to type any more questions regarding connecting to the internet and such
[00:53] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, where do I type that ?
[00:53] <blargg> linuxrealm, why are you asking him to open his machine to exploitation?
[00:53] <linuxrealm> blargg: of course not
[00:53] <eLiam> z3r0n0id, having some issues at the moment.  Unity doesn't start without a kick up the butt...
[00:54] <linuxrealm> blargg: feel free to jump in anytime and help out ;)
[00:54] <eLiam> linuxrealm, I thinking that's a BAD idea!
[00:54] <z3r0n0id> eLiam, ic well ill wait then. i still like 10.10
[00:54] <linuxrealm> eLiam: feel free to jump in anytime and help this user out
[00:54] <ParkerR> I understand what aliases do. I have used Mac OSX a little :)
[00:54] <blargg> oh, it sounded like you were joking about him giving his username/password
[00:55] <linuxrealm> blargg: im dead serious
[00:55] <jstoone> ParkerR: So you'll only have to write "dl-runnable" - just to make it clear, you could also have called it "spawn-poop" but that would not make sense - I always remember it as ALL rights PLUS the EXECUTABLE bit just to be sure (: I think it is in the chmods man pages (:
[00:55] <blargg> hunter2 everywhere for me
[00:55] <linuxrealm> blargg: would you rather watch him suffer anymore?
[00:55] <rpaddock> I can add a script to run on server start.. but how do I have it run as a specific user?
[00:55] <linuxrealm> he is suffering, cant you see
[00:55] <jstoone> ParkerR: You could also do -x -r ~/Downloads/*
[00:55] <blargg> linuxrealm, haven't been paying attention to him, sorry. ignore what I said
[00:55] <ParkerR> jstoone, So chmod a+x -r ~/Downloads/ would work?
[00:56] <linuxrealm> blargg: he is a nice guy/gal who just needs help
[00:56] <jrib> ParkerR: if you really want to do this in a non-insane way, use ACLs.... But I really don't see how assuming everything downloaded from the internet is executable is a "good" idea
[00:56] <jstoone> ParkerR: oh, and i found out that you can use a wildcard (*) then it will chmod all the files e.g in ~/Downloads/
[00:56] <I-are-> ok I think the machine will boot from usb.  Now how do I create a bootable usb for Ubuntu when I am running Debian?
[00:56] <linuxrealm> so nmaxchat are you going to allow us access ? so we can help you get that other box connected
[00:56] <jstoone> ParkerR: "chmod a+x ~/Downloads/*" should be enough (:
[00:57] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, How ?
[00:57] <ParkerR> jrib, I can see where people downloading a lot of stuff need to worry a little more but I downloads things I need and for a specific use
[00:57] <ParkerR> jstoone, Awesome :)
[00:57] <xangua> I-are-: with Unetbootin
[00:57] <ParkerR> *download
[00:57] <jstoone> So let's add our alias, am i right?
[00:57] <zvacet> z3r0n0id: I think it depends on hardware work on my machine
[00:57] <ParkerR> Yep
[00:57] <nmaxchat> I come from windows.
[00:58] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: please refer to your wireless router manual and follow the instructions to allow port 8080 to be open from the wan. it should be in your manual. then, forward all ssh requests to your computer your in question. also turn your firewall off so we can log in and see if you have ns issues or what not...
[00:58] <jstoone> ParkerR: OK, "cd" to your home dir
[00:58] <linuxrealm> nmaxchat: im sorry to hear that, but we all did as well at some point
[00:58] <ParkerR> Ok
[00:59] <nmaxchat> linuxrealm, I am not on the router. I am direct in the plug. I give up for now. Its 2 AM. Thankls for your help.
[00:59] <jstoone> ParkerR: just reply "k" or similar
[00:59] <ParkerR> K
[00:59] <ParkerR> :)
[00:59] <linuxrealm> directly plugged in
[00:59] <jstoone> ParkerR: ahm you did it as i pressed Enter
[00:59] <linuxrealm> yah, better sleep on it
[00:59] <linuxrealm> troll
[00:59] <linuxrealm> sheshh
[00:59] <jstoone> ParkerR: open up  .bashrc with your favorite text editor (:
[01:00] <z3r0n0id> zvacet, i have a newer laptop but still getting familiar with linux
[01:00] <ParkerR> Wait ?home or /home/parker/ ?
[01:00] <ParkerR> */home/
[01:00] <kcorcoran> anyone know the command to enter the nvidia setup via terminal?
[01:01] <zvacet> z3r0n0id: I was talking about natty you asked about upgrade correct?
[01:01] <ParkerR> Nvm, jstoone continue
[01:01] <jstoone> just write "cd" in terminal then you get to "/home/parker/"
[01:01] <ayrton> is 59 fps bad in glxgears ????
[01:01] <KM0201> kcorcoran: gksudo nvidia-settings
[01:01] <jstoone> ParkerR: have you opened ".bashrc"?
[01:01] <ParkerR> Yes
[01:02] <z3r0n0id> zvacet, yea im using 10.10, didn't to run into a bunch of problem i would have truble fixing myself
[01:02] <ParkerR> jstoone, need I be root? Just checking
[01:02] <jstoone> ParkerR: Slice! Go to the bottom of the document and make a little comment tile "### My aliases ###"
[01:02] <surskitty> ParkerR: no, you don't need to be root
[01:02] <ayrton> hey can any1 tell me, should i get more then 59 fps in glxgears?
[01:02] <ParkerR> K
[01:03] <jstoone> surskitty: Thanks (:
[01:03] <zvacet> z3r0n0id: then stay with 10.10 if it works as it should
[01:03] <tim> Hey everyone. I've got a small problem I'd like someone to help me out with.
[01:03] <smk> hi i wanna know if i upgrade to the 11.04 version, i'm going to loose my configuration (compiz fusion) etc.. ..
[01:03] <z3r0n0id> zvacet, ok i will.
[01:03] <ParkerR> jstoone, It already has an aliases section
[01:03] <eLiam> ayrton, It's an arbitrary question but I get around 9000 and my graphic card makes odd noises! :-)
[01:03] <KM0201> tim: just ask, if someone can help, they will
[01:03] <ParkerR> # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
[01:04] <jstoone> ParkerR:  Ah, cool just add it in there if you like (:
[01:04] <ParkerR> And I see what to do :)
[01:04] <zvacet> smk: in ideal world upgrade has nothing with your settings
[01:04] <ayrton> i have a gma 4500m
[01:04] <ayrton> shouldnt i get like 2000?
[01:04] <Shwaiil> Q: I'm running notepad++ trough wine. Crashed, and I want to killall, how to do it ?
[01:05] <smk> zvacet, ok so i can upgrade with no risk about loosing any thing
[01:05] <eLiam> ayrton: What does "glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'" tell you?
[01:05] <zvacet> smk: make back up just in case
[01:05] <jstoone> ParkerR: "alias dl-runnable="chmod a+x ~/Downloads/*" and voila, close this terminal and open a new one and try typeing dl-runnable
[01:05] <ParkerR> Woo   alias dl-runnable='chmod a+x ~/Downlaods/*'
[01:05] <Shwaiil> forget it
[01:05] <ParkerR> Already done :)
[01:06] <jstoone> ParkerR: BooYah!
[01:06] <toty> oi
[01:06] <tim> When I attempt to use my headphones, my speakers play audio simultaneously. Anyone know what's going on?
[01:06] <ParkerR> Hmm, chmod: cannot access `/home/parker/Downlaods/*': No such file or directory
[01:06] <ParkerR> Ahh spelled it wrong XD
[01:06] <ayrton> eliam: flushing GPU caches before/after each draw call
[01:06] <ayrton> direct rendering: Yes
[01:06] <ParkerR> Hahahaha
[01:06] <jstoone> ParkerR: hahaha! Typeos are THE BEST! :D win
[01:07] <toty> como que eu abro um file  psd no buntu 10.04 ?
[01:07] <MaRk-I> !pt | toty
[01:08] <ParkerR> Sweet. Looks like it only does it on files that can be :)
[01:08] <ParkerR> Marked
[01:08] <jstoone> ParkerR: It should ;)
[01:08] <eLiam> ayrton: You got me then.  Should be working fine.  I'd wait till you have an issue (try a game or something)...
[01:08] <jstoone> and if you do "ls" in the dir then they should be green also (:
[01:08] <ParkerR> Success! http://paste.ubuntu.com/605490/
[01:09] <ParkerR> Oh not :(
[01:09] <jstoone> ah!
[01:09] <ayrton> i play nfs carbon in wine and i get low fraps, only playable on low settings, but on youtube etc others with this card play on better settings
[01:09] <ParkerR> I'll try downlaoding something new
[01:10] <jstoone> ParkerR: maybe you should make it "alias dl-runnable="sudo chmod a+x ~/Downloads/*"
[01:10] <ParkerR> Hmm there are many files in there that can be marked
[01:10] <ParkerR> jstoone, Ok I'll try
[01:10] <jstoone> ParkerR: or i think you can just do like "sudo dl-runnable" instead (:_
[01:10] <tim> When I attempt to use my headphones, my speakers play audio simultaneously. Anyone know what's going on?
[01:10] <ayrton> eliam if i turn sync to vblank off it does the same thing
[01:11] <kingofswords> hi back
[01:11] <kingofswords> no joy
[01:11] <kingofswords> got into the windows recovery and typed fixboot and fixmbr and even said it had fix it but still no xp in boot menu
[01:11] <ParkerR> Woo
[01:12] <jstoone> ParkerR: Does it work?
[01:12] <makaveli0129> ok i have accidently deleted my home directory but i have it backed up with duplicity how do i restore just my home directory the backup location is /media/truecrypt1
[01:12] <vadi2> How can I see which wireless driver version am I using?
[01:12] <ParkerR> jstoone, sudo dl-runnable didn't work because dl-runnable is not a sudo command :)
[01:12] <ParkerR> I added it to the .bashrc
[01:13] <jstoone> ParkerR: Aha.. ok (:
[01:13] <ParkerR> Thanks. This might come in handy for other things :)
[01:15] <eLiam> ayrton: maybe try some native game like neverball?
[01:15] <jstoone> ParkerR: That's great! Does it work the way you want it to? - And yes! I use my aliases alot! e.g I'm VERY lazy at times so i have one that's called "alias cd..='cd ..'" and "alias cd...='cd ../..'"
[01:16] <jstoone> ParkerR: I don't know how handy you are in the terminal but it's fun to mess around with (:
[01:16] <thl> im having a couple of issues upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 on a macbook pro 5,1. Is there anyone out there who could help please?
[01:16] <[dlp]> I don't think OpenGL works at all.
[01:16] <ParkerR> jstoone, fairly
[01:16] <[dlp]> Let me check for certain...
[01:17] <aashift> anyone know why profont(bitmap font) isn't showing up in xlsfonts for me, while it's showing up in programs like emacs? ubuntu 11.04
[01:17] <thl> getting "checking battery state" on first boot after upgrade
[01:17] <[dlp]> I am running Kubuntu, but that should be irrelevant.
[01:17] <vacho> how do I create a script that runs a set of commands??
[01:17] <ParkerR> vacho, Make a .sh script
[01:17] <eLiam> ayrton: I think you just fixed my video issue!  I turned sync to vblank on in the nvidia settings and the video card no longer squeeks!  Also, I'm also getting 60FPS (because my refresh rate is 60)
[01:17] <ParkerR> You can put commands on separate lines
[01:17] <vacho> ParkerR, and what does ./AptanaStudio mean?
[01:17] <ParkerR> vacho, ??
[01:18] <ParkerR> I have no clue
[01:18] <vacho> what does ./ mean basically.
[01:18] <ParkerR> vacho, It launches a program or script
[01:18] <thl> anyone? checking battery state? seen it/fixed it?
[01:19] <vacho> ok
[01:19] <ParkerR> Tells bash that the script is not a command but indeed a script that needs to be run
[01:19] <vacho> how do I launch a .sh file?
[01:19] <aashift> vacho: the . in ./ means the PWD
[01:19] <ParkerR> ./scriptname
[01:19] <aashift> vacho: so if you're in /home/vacho ./ would mean /home/vacho
[01:20] <vacho> ok thanks
[01:20] <eLiam> aashift: surely that should read CWD?
[01:20] <aashift> np
[01:20] <vacho> I made a file called aptana.sh .. when I do ./aptana.sh it says: permission denied
[01:20] <aashift> eLiam: sorry :)
[01:20] <jstoone> vacho: ./ means the directory you are in RIGHT NOW  (:
[01:20] <aashift> eLiam: indeed it should've
[01:20] <jstoone> vacho: Do this "chmod a+x aptana.sh"
[01:21] <vacho> JStoone: I did chmod 755
[01:21] <jstoone> vacho: you get that message because you actually don't have the needed rights..
[01:21] <vacho> jstoone: lastly, how do I create a shortcut on desktop that runs my sh script ? :D
[01:21] <jstoone> vacho: Yea that's ok too ;)
[01:21] <jstoone> vacho: one sec
[01:23] <[dlp]> Ok I lied, GL does work properly.
[01:23] <[dlp]> Or at least it works.
[01:23] <[dlp]> So it looks like it might be a KDE problem after all.
[01:23] <zacharyalexstern> What does one need for Netflix? Just the moonlight plugin?
[01:23] <escott> zacharyalexstern, windows or mac only
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> zacharyalexstern: as far as I know you need virtualbox
[01:24] <jstoone> vacho: "ln -s /your/script/file/ /link/destination/
[01:24] <Mitsukaru> yuuuuuck, browser plugins
[01:24] <Mitsukaru> :P
[01:24] <Mitsukaru> html5 ftw
[01:24] <zacharyalexstern> ActionParsnip, whaaat
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> zacharyalexstern: its windows only, you'll need a valid license and install media
[01:24] <zacharyalexstern> ActionParsnip, What? I said NETFLIX
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> zacharyalexstern: blame netflix
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> sec
[01:24] <zacharyalexstern> I have a windows install already.
[01:24] <zacharyalexstern> I just figured I'd give ubuntu another soht.
[01:25] <jstoone> vacho: so it would be "ln -s aptana.sh ~/Desktop"
[01:25] <oraqol> hey guys
[01:25] <jrmcm> If i have 2 wifi cards installed and they use the same drivers would they interfere with each other?
[01:25] <MaRk-I> zacharyalexstern: you can't they can't implement the DRM in linux versions (so they say)
[01:25] <SpaceBass> hey folks? looking to use xargs to create some sum links from a piped find command ? find /foo/bar -mtime -5 | xargs ln -s /tmp/    but it errs out
[01:25] <SpaceBass> any bash gurus have any suggestions?
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> zacharyalexstern: http://tinyurl.com/6xqxq9n
[01:25] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, yes, you just need sliverblight. or liverbite. or whatever that stupid plugin is.
[01:25] <jstoone> vacho: that is if you're in the same folder as your .sh script (:
[01:25] <oraqol> quick question,updated to 11.04, now i can no longer see grub menu on boot, just a purple screen, how do i turn on the grub menu?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: if you hold shift at boot, do you see the grub menu?
[01:26] <jstoone> ParkerR: Did you get my message?
[01:26] <xangua> oraqol: keep Shift key pressed when you boot
[01:26] <oraqol> even before upgrade there was no menu
[01:26] <usr13> jrmcm: It is quite possible they will.  But what is it you intend to do with them?
[01:26] <Mitsukaru> i think guys in here ought to ask more ubuntu-specific questions, rather than bash-specific questions...
[01:26] <oraqol> i did press Shift, and I also tried pressing Esc, neither worked
[01:26] <ugarte> im sure netflix could implement the drm, but they havent yet and there is no sign that they will
[01:26] <ParkerR> jstoone, I replied :)
[01:26] <usr13> jrmcm: In other words, why do you have 2 of them?
[01:26] <kapipi> Is anyone else having issues with screen corruption around gradients?
[01:27] <zacharyalexstern> Back to windows I guess.
[01:27] <xangua> !anyone | kapipi
[01:27] <jrmcm> One is internal, the other is a usb with a high gain antena(sp)
[01:27] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, why do you need to use windows?
[01:27] <zacharyalexstern> Mitsukaru, netflix.
[01:27] <usr13> zacharyalexstern: What seems to be the problem?
[01:27] <oraqol> any ideas guys?
[01:27] <escott> Mitsukaru, he can't watch netflix on ubuntu
[01:27] <zacharyalexstern> I'm not willing to setup a VM just to watch netflix.
[01:27] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, i already answered your question xD
[01:28] <jrmcm> usr13: One is internal, the other is a usb with a high gain antena(sp)
[01:28] <Mitsukaru> "zacharyalexstern, yes, you just need sliverblight. or liverbite. or whatever that stupid plugin is."
[01:28] <escott> Mitsukaru, that won't work
[01:28] <zacharyalexstern> Mitsukaru, the current version of moonlight is 2.4, it's too old.
[01:28] <zacharyalexstern> Moonlight (the linux version of silverlight) does not support DRM yet.
[01:28] <Mitsukaru> weird o_O why wouldnt moonlight work? that's dumb.
[01:28] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, install the windows version of firefox with wine, and then silverlight. then watch netflix like that.
[01:29] <usr13> jrmcm: But, do you need them both?
[01:29] <zacharyalexstern> Mitsukaru, No.
[01:29] <kapipi> xangua: huh?
[01:29] <oraqol> so other than holding Shift at startup, what else can i do to load the grub menu?
[01:29] <Mitsukaru> DRM SUX!
[01:29] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, why not just use wine? xD
[01:29] <zacharyalexstern> Mitsukaru, because I don't want to.
[01:29] <xangua> !info startupmanager | oraqol
[01:29] <eLiam> jrmcm: I'm guessing they *shouldn't* and if they do then it's a bug.
[01:29] <jrmcm> usr13: at times i do need the high gain, others its not nesscessary
[01:29] <usr13> jrmcm: Since you more than likely will only use one, decide which one you want to keep and take the other one out.
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: if you can boot to ubuntu and pastebin your /etc/defaul/grub file, we can advise
[01:29] <Mitsukaru> also isnt there a linux version of the proprietary silverlight w/ drm support?
[01:29] <Tendors> evening
[01:30] <usr13> jrmcm: Is this a laptop?
[01:30] <Mitsukaru> hi Tendors :P
[01:30] <oraqol> ok
[01:30] <jrmcm> yes
[01:30] <zacharyalexstern> I'm going to try out the nightly build of moonlight.
[01:30] <kapipi> xangua: huh? what do you mean?
[01:30] <Tendors> i am searching for some software, but i don't know the name of the package
[01:30] <oraqol> # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. # For full documentation of the options in this file, see: #   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'  GRUB_DEFAULT=0 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" splash"  # Uncomment to enable Ba
[01:30] <Mitsukaru> zacharyalexstern, whats wrong with running firefox w/ silverlight in wine?
[01:30] <jrmcm> usr13 kinda hard to pull the internal
[01:30] <usr13> jrmcm: Then, when you need the external one, turn off the internal one and plug in the external one.
[01:30] <Tendors> does anyone knows the name of the Japanese toolkit for randomly constructing lazily saturated expected  response time?
[01:30] <oraqol> not sure how to copy/paste
[01:31] <jstoone> ParkerR: I'm having a hard time trying to find your message and/or getting into the windows which i recieved your message in.. hhaa
[01:31] <escott> zacharyalexstern, this has a lot more with the studios now wanting linux to be supported, because linux users are more technically sophisticated and likely to save the streams. i don't think you will have much success
[01:31] <usr13> jrmcm: Why is it  hard to pull the internal one?
[01:31] <jrmcm> usr13: how do i turn it off? Placement
[01:31] <zacharyalexstern> escott, The nightly build may have DRM support.
[01:31] <usr13> jrmcm: There is usually a button or switch or f-Key.
[01:32] <OMG_ESS> hi, where is the cache of chronium ???
[01:32] <IdleOne> !paste | oraqol
[01:32] <usr13> jrmcm: refer to your owner's manual.
[01:32] <oraqol> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605501/ here is my grub file
[01:32] <OMG_ESS> *chromium
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> OMG_ESS: ~/.cache/chromium
[01:32] <jrmcm> usr13: the f-key works under windows but not ubuntu
[01:32] <jstoone> Hi guys, does any of you use weechat-curses ? I'm haveing a hard time figureing out where my PM's go?
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: let me see
[01:32] <OMG_ESS> ActionParsnip: a flash video
[01:32] <OMG_ESS> isn't there
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> OMG_ESS: use an extension instead, or youtube-dl
[01:33] <kapipi> xangua: What do you mean?
[01:33] <Tendors> Well, it might be any randomly constructing lazily saturated expected  response time tool
[01:33] <OMG_ESS> but is not youtube
[01:33] <usr13> jrmcm: Is that right?
[01:33] <Hi-Lighter> i'm thinking about installing ChromeOS and messing with it.  Any input on ChromeOS?  Good, bad?
[01:33] <oraqol> also, i only recently commented out the hidden, console and gfx entries
[01:33] <oraqol> doing so changed nothing
[01:33] <OMG_ESS> It is a weird page
[01:33] <xangua> !ot | Hi-Lighter
[01:33] <Derp_> Must see! Damn hot! http://derbnet.in/webcam?cam=4551
[01:33] <usr13> jrmcm: What kind of laptop is this?  What is the make and model?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: uncomment lines 7 and 8
[01:33] <vacho> how can I get a mac os x bar with apps with ubuntu?
[01:34] <Hi-Lighter> !ot
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: then run: sudo update-grub    to apply
[01:34] <OMG_ESS> The video is loaded alredy
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> OMG_ESS: i see, not sure then but that is the cache of chrome/ium
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> oraqol: here is mine for reference: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605503/
[01:35] <oraqol> thanx, lemme take a look
[01:35] <Mitsukaru> i dont understand why zacharyalexstern cant just use silverlight in wine. it's simple and awesome and doesnt require rebooting or setting up stupid virtual machines or anything.
[01:35] <OMG_ESS> where could it be stored then?
[01:35] <vacho> guys, how do I get an application dock with ubuntu???
[01:35] <kevincsd> hello. i just upgraded from maverick to natty. what's the default theme of natty?
[01:35] <OMG_ESS> store*
[01:35] <kapipi> I wonder how large a ratio of user problems actually get solved here. Doesn't seem like a lot.
[01:35] <xangua> vacho: doky, avant, cairo dock
[01:35] <usr13> jrmcm: You aren't making any sense here.  You just got done telling me you did not know where the switch is to turn  off the wifi and now you tell me that you know it won't work?
[01:35] <OMG_ESS> kevincsd: Unity
[01:36] <roderick_> Just wanted to say that Xubuntu 11.04 rocks.
[01:36] <Tendors> I am just looking for some software to run a simulation for development of scatter/gather I/O.
[01:36] <usr13> jrmcm: Again, refer to Owner's Manual.
[01:36] <vacho> xangua, which one do you like the most?
[01:36] <escott> Mitsukaru, please read ANY of the faqs on netflix or the moonlight website, now he is going to waste a lot of time trying to install the nightly build http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/faq.aspx
[01:36] <xangua> vacho: none
[01:37] <Darkenvy> guys
[01:37] <Darkenvy> I messed up upgrading to 11.04 :S
[01:37] <Darkenvy> I'm looking to downgrade
[01:37] <jstoone> ParkerR: Bye mate, glad I could help! Write a mail! Stay in touch (:
[01:37] <jstoone> Bye guys (:
[01:37] <OMG_ESS> bye
[01:37] <fisix__> so i installed ubuntu to overwrite a recovery partition from usb. it still boots directly into windows vista instead of giving me an option to select which OS. wat do?
[01:37] <Tendors> goodbye jstoone
[01:37] <fisix__> jstoone, hey!1
[01:37] <xangua> !downgrade | Darkenvy
[01:37] <Darkenvy> I cant get xinerama to work in 11.04. Anyone else have success?
[01:37] <FishFace> Darkenvy: Someone else asked that earlier. They told him you cant. Someone else might know more though.
[01:37] <fisix__> jstoone, awww leaving right when i got here
[01:38] <kevincsd> OMG_ESS: Is that what you have in "Appearance -> Theme"? I can't find it.
[01:38] <Preynolds94> Anyone familiar with SGH-T939
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> fisix__: boot live usb/cd and reinstate grub
[01:38] <OMG_ESS> kevincsd: then it is ambiance
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | Preynolds94
[01:38] <escott> !grub | fisix__
[01:38] <symaxian> Will almost any tuner card work with Mythbuntu?
[01:38] <kapipi> Keep spamming bot answers is not very helpful.
[01:38] <Darkenvy> xangua, I didnt know xinerama wasnt supported and that this new pulseaudio would break my sound apps
[01:38] <Tendors> please, oes anyone knows the name of the Japanese toolkit for randomly constructing lazily saturated expected  response time? Any toolkit for that might do it for me
[01:38] <Mitsukaru> escott, i suggested that he install firefox & silverlight in Wine.
[01:38] <kevincsd> OMG_ESS: hah, thanks. it looks much better now!
[01:38] <Darkenvy> I tried disabling pusle and keeping ALSA and I cant even get pulse back :|
[01:39] <jstoone> fisix__: Heya! Have you tried to put your CD/USB on top when booting and then reinstalling your grub from the liveCD/USB?
[01:39] <OMG_ESS> kevincsd: you're welme
[01:40] <Tendors> jstoone: when upgrading don't stick your p3n1s is the usb port.
[01:40] <Darkenvy> no one here uses xinerama?
[01:40] <Preynolds94> Ok well after flashing my SGH-T939 to BH_MAN R10 rom i tried to root my phone using z4root now it just show the behold screen and turns off then keeps repeating............If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated
[01:40] <xangua> !ops | Tendors
[01:40] <Darkenvy> only when upgrading?
[01:40] <IdleOne> !language > Tendors
[01:40] <Tendors> hehe
[01:40] <jstoone> Tendors: Excuse me? xD
[01:40] <xangua> Preynolds94: this is ubuntu, not android
[01:40] <Warmonger> does anyone know how to get wireless work in 11.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1520?
[01:40] <l1nuxman> can someone help me set up /etc/hosts so smart host relay will work to my ISP? I'm trying to use sendmail on command line to email messages. But it needs to go to my ISP smtp server and authenticate first
[01:40] <Tendors> sorry
[01:41] <usr13> Warmonger: What wifi device does it have?  lspci
[01:41] <jstoone> Tendors: and btw. didn't I warn you already, and told you specificly not to do that?
[01:41] <fisix__> jstoone, what do u mean by putting on top? can i just install grub specifically?
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Warmonger: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; rfkill list    use http://pastebin.com to host the text and give the URL the page changes to when you hit paste to give us the address of the paste
[01:41] <Tendors> oh that was you that gave me that tip
[01:41] <ex-parrot1> can someone tell me how you're meant to set up serial gettys under modern ubuntus which haven't got an inittab?
[01:42] <OMG_ESS> so, where's a flash video stored with chromium?
[01:42] <jstoone> fisix__: Yea you can (: "on top" I was meaning the boot priority (:
[01:42] <xangua> OMG_ESS: whethever adobe wants them, lots of addons to download videos out there
[01:43] <OMG_ESS> xangua: but i have it loaded alredy
[01:43] <jstoone> fisix__: listen to ubottu now:
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> OMG_ESS: may help: http://ikacikax.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/where-are-chromes-flash-temporary-files-ubuntu/
[01:43] <jstoone> !grub | fisix__
[01:43] <OMG_ESS> ActionParsnip: thanks
[01:43] <usr13> l1nuxman: It is pretty straight forward, just put a line in with an IP address and a domain name  you want it to resolve to on a line in /etc/hosts.  That's it.
[01:44] <Darkenvy> Twinview sucks in 11.04! Can't Xinerama be activated? I can't downgrade either. I feel so trapped
[01:44] <jstoone> fisix__: Well, I'm gone to bed, tired like hell..
[01:44] <vacho> why is there no dock options for ubuntu 11.-04???
[01:44] <fisix__> jstoone, ahh kk i'll give it a shot
[01:44] <fisix__> jstoone, thanks! catch you around :b
[01:44] <Extacy> Hi everyone
[01:44] <jstoone> vacho: look up compiz-configuration, could have something
[01:44] <Extacy> Can someone help me with something real quick?
[01:44] <l1nuxman> usr13, but what should the domain name be? I have been unable to set up sendmail properly to email. I think it's a /etc/hosts problem
[01:44] <doomrobo> I have an Asus EEEPC 1215N netbook, should I go for Natty or Jolicloud?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Extacy
[01:45] <jstoone> fisix__: ok (: bye
[01:45] <doomrobo> Extacy what?
[01:45] <tarvid> Is there an easy way to get my key bindings back for "less"?
[01:45] <escott> Mitsukaru, have you done that? do you know if it works, or how hard it is? do you have a link to a description of how to do it? a question like "can I use netflix" is a pretty common question from a new user, I don't think it is a good idea to suggest that they attempt something that complex without specific instructions
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> doomrobo: jolicloud isnt supported here and the joliclou community isnt nearly as vast as Ubuntus
[01:45] <usr13> l1nuxman: It is more than likelynot a /etc/hosts problem.  Look elswhere
[01:45] <vacho> jstoone: thanks
[01:46] <doomrobo> ActionParsnip I suppose that answers my question
[01:46] <Extacy> I have a Dell Inspiron 1520, installed a fresh copy of 11.04. When I go into Ubuntu, Wireless internet says firmware not installed
[01:46] <fisix> extacy, i like your style
[01:46] <jstoone> vacho: You're welcome
[01:46] <doomrobo> Extacy Is there a forum on that specific model?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Extacy: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network;
[01:46] <ActionParsnip>                        lsb_release -a; rfkill list    use http://pastebin.com
[01:46] <ActionParsnip>                        to host the text and give the URL the page changes to
[01:46] <ActionParsnip>                        when you hit paste to give us the address of the paste
[01:46] <FloodBot1> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> d'oh
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> sorry guys
[01:46] <usr13> Extacy: iwconfig     #What does that say about your wifi device?
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Extacy: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; rfkill list    use http://pastebin.com to host the text and give the URL the page changes to when you hit paste to give us the address of the paste
[01:47] <usr13> Extacy: lspci |grep ireless   #What does that say about your wifi device?
[01:48] <darkorical> anyone have experiance installing the cisco vpn client on 11.04 server?
[01:48] <Extacy> I will be back when I re-install 11.04.. I unistalled it to try 10.10
[01:48] <l1nuxman> usr13, most google results of "dsn=5.6.0, stat=Data format error
[01:48] <l1nuxman> " talk about it
[01:48] <darkorical> http://logicalshift.blogspot.com/2010/07/cisco-vpn-installation.html  <-- im following that but when I get to part 3 about autoconf.h Im lost
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> darkorical: network manager can do it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[01:51] <Froq> Where are applications stored?!  I want to set up a mirrored partition for the partition with applications, to increase application load time\
[01:51] <darkorical> ActionParsnip I'm on server
[01:52] <ScottONanski> Is anyone else having performance issues with Ubuntu 1104?
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> darkorical: scroll down, it tells which files to edit
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> ScottONanski: in any particular app?
[01:52] <ScottONanski> Everything, windows go blank and take time to refresh
[01:53] <ScottONanski> Firefox hangs sometimes when it's maximized
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> ScottONanski: are you fully updated?
[01:53] <ScottONanski> Yep.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> ScottONanski: are you using unity?
[01:54] <ScottONanski> Yes.
[01:54] <xissburg> Oof
[01:54] <ScottONanski> I tried not using Unity, but my window titlebars disappear
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> ScottONanski: ok, press ALT+F2 and run:   metacity --relpace   is it any better?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> AndChat|: yeeaahh android chat :)
[01:55] <escott> Froq, mostly in /usr and its subdirectories
[01:55] <ScottONanski> Ugh, now I can't move windows at all. lol
[01:55] <xissburg> windows? haha
[01:56] <Froq> escott: thanks man!  You are always helping me out.  I really appreciate it!
[01:56] <xissburg> I have serious issues with it at the moment
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> ScottONanski: hold alt and you can from any point
[01:56] <tripelb> Ubuntu 10.04 spontaneous reboot. electrical fluctuation? how long does that lapse have to be? what else could it be? maybe inside my pentium-4 computer?
[01:56] <xissburg> lol
[01:56] <eLiam> l1nuxman: postfix?
[01:56] <www> sdsa
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: test your ram
[01:57] <tripelb> I am trying to get my logitech webcam to work in skype video. It's an older one.
[01:57] <usr13> tripelb: Could it be overheating?
[01:57] <escott> Froq, i assume by mirrored you mean raid1 in which case you can probably find some tutorials on using mdadm on the forums and wiki
[01:57] <l1nuxman> eLiam, no sendmail
[01:57] <Berto> Hi, I'm in 10.04 with Gnome, but I have some apps like Amarok14 where I want to set the KDE settings.  What do I do to change KDE configs (like view items as a list, and double-click folders to open)??
[01:57] <Froq> escott: yep yep, I do!  so can I set that up after my instilation?  or do I have to do it @ installation?
[01:57] <tripelb> how can I tell if it's overheating usr13 ? Also could that happen with the sidepanel to the computer open? can I test the heat?
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: run:  lsusb   one line will identify the device. Tthe cam in cheese, see if its already working
[01:58] <usr13> tripelb: I don't know but;  Is this a laptop or desktop?  When is the last time it was cleaned?
[01:58] <zacharyalexstern> Apparently you can do it with a Boxxee account.
[01:58] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I had another computer (it froze) with that problem. It took MONTHS till the ram showed RED. How could I have identified it earlier?  ----- it works in cheese.
[01:58] <escott> Froq, you can do it either way, its been a while since i've installed, but i think it would be easier to do it during the installation, otherwise you have to make lots of modifications to fstab
[01:59] <Froq> escott: okay.  THANKS!
[01:59] <escott> Froq, also be sure to put grub on BOTH disks... the installer will put it on one, but that is a bit fragile
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: good it works in cheese, you can test ram by holding SHIFT at boot and selecting memtest
[01:59] <tripelb> usr13, ok I'll search for how to tell temp. -- this is a dell desktop. by clean you mean the dust inside or do I have to go indie the plastic housing around the chip and fan-path. I'd guess it was never cleaned.
[02:00] <eLiam> all you have to do is enter you ISPs mail server in the DS
[02:00] <eLiam> parameter.
[02:00] <Furry> Can anyone help me with installing libpng?
[02:00] <eLiam> DSmail.isp.com
[02:00] <Froq> escott: why do I need to put grub on both if I am only going to mirror /usr to increase applicaiton load time?
[02:01] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, as I said I did that mem testing many times with the other one and it took months before it came up bad when everything turned red. So how does it tell me anything till total failure or do I not know how to read it? You dont have to answer. I'll test and re-ask. Or just run windows for a while and see if it does it too? Oh dear.
[02:01] <lucasjb> Hi all, I've got three Lucid systems all with the same sources.list, but one of them has packages with versions that lag behind the other two, can someone suggest why this might be?
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: open the case and check for blown capacitors too (if it won't void warranty)
[02:02] <grantg> Hey, does this work on firefox 4 for ubuntu? http://www.grantgalitz.org/get_the_hell_out/SuperMarioBros/
[02:02] <grantg> The audio support was recently tweaked to get around a firefox bug
[02:02] <Hini> haha
[02:02] <tripelb> case is always open on the sice ActionParsnip  how do I tell if there is a blown capacitor? Is there a program that tells me the temp of my computer chip? what temp should it be?
[02:03] <oraqol> hey guys, i tried the grub config file posted here, but still grub menu does not show on boot
[02:03] <oraqol> holding Shift or Esc does nothing either
[02:03] <Hini> do you have more than 1 HDD
[02:03] <Hini> .......................................
[02:03] <oraqol> no
[02:04] <oraqol> just two partitions
[02:04] <oraqol> sda1 and sda2
[02:04] <escott> Froq, if the "b" disk has an old grub installed in the mbr it can try to boot that and break stuff... i just find it easier if i put grub on both disks (in part because i might move a disk from one system to another, and therefore have a grub from an old system)
[02:04] <dualcore> i know this isn't channel appropriate but is anyone else having trouble with netflix on nintendo wii right now?
[02:04] <Froq> escott: awesome!  thank you for the explanation
[02:04] <Hini> Did you pay ur Netflix
[02:04] <xangua> !ot | dualcore
[02:05] <oraqol> netflix on wii has been glitchy for me too
[02:05] <Hini> let me check netflix channe;
[02:06] <maxa_> please anyone help
[02:06] <Hini> mines, is piece of ****
[02:06] <tripelb> can an ubuntu user be in more than one group?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> maxa_: ask away
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: yes, your first user already is
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: run:  groups
[02:06] <tripelb> maxa_, please put your entire situation and problem in one line. It's way too hard to read all spread out.
[02:06] <dualcore> netflix online works, the wii wifi connection works, its like only the netflix app on my wii can't connect to the internet.  tried reconfigured the wifi connection, tried reinstalling the netflix app, tried it all.  anyway i'll try to find a more appropriate channel, sorry for the off-topic
[02:07] <maxa_> yesterday ive update something, then today i cant normaly log in to my desktop, its show me terminal login
[02:07] <Hini> did you mod your wii by chance
[02:07] <Hini> softmod or hardmod ???
[02:08] <xissburg> hm so..I currently have a kinda messed up system. I have (or had) Windows XP in C: (considered the main partition somhow) and Windows 7 x64 in D: . I'd like to format the whole disk and install Ubuntu and reinstall Windows 7 x64. What is the best approach?
[02:08] <kingofswords> any1 recommend a mbr editor?
[02:08] <maxa_> tripelb : my desktop login show me terminal log in session, how can i switch to normal login?
[02:08] <tripelb> hini, you need to use the person's NICK inthe line
[02:08] <mickey> does anyone here have problems trying to go full screen with videos online?
[02:08] <Hini> ok
[02:08] <xissburg> dual boot win7 and ubunut
[02:08] <xissburg> *ubuntu *-.-
[02:08] <Hini> dualcore: do you have an softmod or hardmod
[02:08] <tripelb> maxa_, I dont know but stating it clearly helps people decide if they are the one to answer it.
[02:09] <tripelb> !ask |xissburg
[02:09] <k_sze> I'm running Live DVD and I just inserted a microSD card into my USB card read/writer, where under /dev/ is it likely to appear?
[02:09] <xissburg> k sorry
[02:09] <escott> xissburg, backup, repartition with the livecd, install windows first, then install ubuntu
[02:09] <Hini> oh well
[02:09] <xissburg> escott: hmh
[02:09] <Hini> all: goodbye windows vista
[02:10] <xissburg> :D
[02:10] <maxa_> ActionParsnip : please help, how can i switch to normal login desktop, now its show me terminal login.
[02:10] <mickey> does anyone know how to get streaming videos stay maximized to one screen while working on another?
[02:10] <escott> xissburg, unless you think/want to try and salvage the current system thats the recommend order for things
[02:10] <xissburg> escott: livecd? you mean the Ubuntu Live CD ?
[02:10] <escott> xissburg, yes
[02:11] <xissburg> escott: Ah I still have a third E: partition which is not bootable, I  just store files in it
[02:11] <escott> mickey, they won't go fullscreen F11 in my experience, because clicks outside seem to break fullscreen
[02:11] <Hini> im using backtrack 4 live usb
[02:11] <escott> xissburg, then just don't touch that while you repartition
[02:11] <xissburg> ok
[02:11] <Darkenvy> okay I reeeeaaaaly fucked up my install of 11.04. can I safely reinstall this upgrade (from 10.10)
[02:11] <Darkenvy> ?
[02:12] <Hini> Me to, Darkenvy
[02:12] <IdleOne> !downgrade | Darkenvy
[02:12] <Darkenvy> I messed up with pulse + ALSA and the display drivers
[02:12] <Darkenvy> hey dont cite me downgrade!
[02:12] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: cean install
[02:12] <Darkenvy> I said reinstall of the same versino
[02:12] <IdleOne> clean*
[02:12] <maxa_> How can i switch to normal log in desktop, now its terminal login
[02:12] <maxa_> usr13 : are u there?
[02:12] <Darkenvy> ugh
[02:13] <Darkenvy> okay so downgrading is not recommended.... meaning it is possible
[02:13] <Darkenvy> I want to downgrade to 10.10 despite the risk (as clean install isnt a viable option)
[02:13] <escott> Darkenvy, yes you can reinstall just make yourself a livecd, and of course take backups in case things don't work
[02:13] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: Yeah, put in the Ubuntu cd version of your choice and install. Downgrading is not support.
[02:14] <Darkenvy> I am not int he position to backup as I do not have 2TB of data to move off of this drive
[02:14] <IdleOne> supported*
[02:14] <Darkenvy> I have 2TB of video data I cannot lose
[02:14] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: You have a separate /home I assume?
[02:14] <Darkenvy> one account on this computer
[02:14] <xissburg> escott: dumb noob question: the ubuntu installation download supports the live cd feature?
[02:14] <mickster04> Darkenvy: partitions he means
[02:14] <escott> xissburg, yes
[02:15] <xissburg> k thanks
[02:15] <Darkenvy> yes I have a seperate partition but of only 120GB
[02:15] <Darkenvy> thats for my minecraft server abckups ><
[02:15] <maxa_> I dont have my normal desktop login, how can i change from terminal login to normal login desktop?
[02:15] <dommer-> question on Kubuntu
[02:15] <Darkenvy> what should I do?
[02:15] <k_sze> I need help getting my USB multi-card reader working when booted in Live CD.
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> dommer-: ask away
[02:16] <Evollana> Can I put Gnome 3 on Natty?
[02:16] <Darkenvy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[02:16] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3
[02:16] <Darkenvy> it exists! you guys mislead me
[02:16] <dommer-> Does Kubuntu have the ubuntu software centre? and if so, what is the line to it?  like Kubuntu/applications/etc...
[02:16] <mickster04> Darkenvy: we said it wasn't supported, which it isnt
[02:17] <maxa_> ActionParsnip : how can i switch to my normal login desktop?
[02:17] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: When you reach the partitioning part of the install make sure to uncheck the Format partition box. it will reinstall the system
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> dommer-: try:  kdesu software-properties-qt
[02:17] <Omega> dommer-: #kubuntu
[02:17] <escott> Darkenvy, I've heard that the installer has a preserve home option but i'm not sure I would trust it. you may want to buy some external usb drives for backup
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> maxa_: log off and choose it
[02:17] <Darkenvy> idleone was the one to say that
[02:17] <Darkenvy> hmmmm escott
[02:17] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: I did not mislead you. I am looking at that page now, never saw it before.
[02:18] <Evollana> Is it just Ubuntu or others going to start using Unity?
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: depends what they wanna do, aask in their channels
[02:18] <Darkenvy> hmmmm preserve home....
[02:18] <IdleOne> good luck with that two year old guide
[02:19] <escott> Darkenvy, think carefully about what a downgrade does... it replaces all the system libraries and the kernels with different versions, in a manner that is clearly not intended and not tested at all
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade
[02:19] <Darkenvy> yesyes ubottu
[02:19] <dcesiel> Has anyone had issues with eclipse in 11.04?
[02:19] <Darkenvy> Im in a tight situation though
[02:19] <Darkenvy> it all comes down to Xinerama crashing my X
[02:19] <Evollana> ActionParsnip I asked the ppl on FreeBSD my other system but they said the same thing as you.
[02:19] <Darkenvy> I cannot get it to enable
[02:20] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: So you are willing to risk losing all your data that you just stated you can't afford to lose
[02:20] <centaur1> hi all - have U10.04 new install - does not see usb port. i can go to system/admintration/hardware drivers with stick plugged in and after this finishes i can read the files on the stick. i remove stick and re-insert and no more usb - what should i do/
[02:20] <Darkenvy> all my data would still eb on the HDD
[02:20] <dommer-> well that didn't help worth a shit >:
[02:20] <Darkenvy> just the system wouldnt be able to laod
[02:20] <Hini> I did that before atleast I have an Second HDD XD
[02:20] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: makes sense, if a distro decides to use unity, they can. Its pure speculation if they will or won't.
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: i sidestep the whole gnome desktop mess and use lxde most of the time
[02:21] <IdleOne> Darkenvy: I told you how to do it if you chose to go another route that is clearly not recommended it is on you. Good luck.
[02:21] <Darkenvy> hmmm
[02:22] <Darkenvy> well then before I tried this I am going to ask if ANYONE got Xinerama to work
[02:22] <Evollana> In all fairness Gnome has had a zillion years to work out the details. I am sure that in about 3-4 years Unity will be much more useable then Gnome.
[02:23] <andygray> ActionParsnip, `what do you use for your mail client?  probably not evolution?  or no?
[02:23] <Evollana> And I never liked GDM. I mean its got like 50 lines of sloppy code in C. A clean rewrite is welcome.
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> andygray: web interface, if there is a web interface to other email clients i'd use that
[02:24] <andygray> ActionParsnip, very cool; thank you
[02:24] <__sorin__> Hi. How do you change the awk field separator for the second time? I tried to, but it doesn't work. awk 'BEGIN { FS = "/"} { OFS = "_" } { $0 = $NF } { FS = " "} { $NF = tolower($NF) } { print }'
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: then use slim or lxdm or something else
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> andygray: no worries...
[02:25] <DouglasK> Question: anyone know how to get a built in SD reader working on Ubuntu?  (output from lsusb shows it as "058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader")
[02:25] <ward1234> ok back
[02:25] <DouglasK> Also, version of Ubuntu is 10.10
[02:25] <ward1234> ouch downgrades will break a machine
[02:25] <allure> hi all. my friend just bought a netbook with ubuntu in it but she doesnt know sh*t about linux yet, so I want to teach her. I got her to open the gnome-terminal and I want to get her to send me a ssh session, but her router is blocking it. How can I make her send me a shell by connecting o my sshd?
[02:26]  * orangejuicecup slaps adan0s_ around a bit with a large trout
[02:26]  * orangejuicecup slaps adante around a bit with a large trout
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> DouglasK: did the ID give any guides?
[02:26] <adante> orangejuicecup: hi
[02:26] <escott> __sorin__, that gawk script has 6 sections... i thought you could only have 3? do you mean to be piping through awk twice.. if so do that
[02:26] <orangejuicecup> adante sup friende
[02:26] <DouglasK> the ID showed it was certified in version 10.04, but no other versions.  No guides are found for it.
[02:26] <darkorical> allure just teach her about man pages
[02:26] <Evollana> ActionParsnip I am using Fvwm that I wrote myself with a nice Conky setup for BSD. If I was Canonical I would go for slim. Only 10 lines of code and it just works.
[02:27] <allure> darkorical: her ubuntu is not in portuguese and she doesnt speak english :)
[02:27] <allure> netbook, rather
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: slim is great, its also default in fluxbuntu ;)
[02:27] <centaur1> centaur1 exits - try later thanx
[02:28] <DouglasK> ActionParsnip: the ID showed it was certified in version 10.04, but no other versions.  No guides are found for it.
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: you can suggest things on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[02:28] <__sorin__> escott, it's not the number of sections that's the problem.
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> DouglasK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136196
[02:29] <maxa_> ActionParsnip : i cant event choose, when i on my pc its show me directly to terminal log in
[02:29] <Evollana> ActionParsnip Yeah I might do that. I am a system developer. Thinking about the future with Wayland, Unity, Slim. I bring it up there.
[02:30] <phoenix_> hello, I am having trouble mounting a floppy drive, the floppies have windows documents on them, would that matter?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Evollana: cool :)
[02:30] <DouglasK> ActionParsnip: Different ID, but I will try it... looks like it should be harmless, or at worst, reversible.  :)  Thanks.
[02:30] <Magnusson> anyone have any idea why i can't get my microphone(apparently) to pick up any sound? or any ideas for ways i can start looking to figure it out for myself?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> phoenix_: doesn't matter whats on them
[02:31] <darkorical> magnusson is it plugged in?
[02:31] <maxa_> ActionParsnip : Ive quote sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf but seems not working, its say no such file or directory
[02:31] <Magnusson> darkorical: of course
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> Magnusson: run:  alsamixer   be sure its not muted and the levels are cranked
[02:32] <darkorical> is it muted
[02:32] <Evollana> maxa_ are you on a VM?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> maxa_: if you make one, it will be obeyed. Default install doesn't ship with one
[02:32] <Magnusson> nope, not muted either =\ everything's cranked all the way up
[02:32] <ayrton> hey guys i upgraded to 11.04 and now it will not find wireless networks,
[02:32] <ayrton> drivers installed
[02:32] <darkorical> are you just discovering that you are a mute for the first time in your life?
[02:32] <vorlov> hey
[02:32] <ayrton> and i had no problem before
[02:32] <vorlov> anyone knows how to restart all instances in upstart
[02:32] <vorlov> ?
[02:32] <phoenix_> ActionParsnip : I get a message that I cannot mount floppy drive
[02:33] <Magnusson> the thought HAD occured to me, but no
[02:33] <darkorical> ... then Im out of suggestions
[02:33] <maxa_> Evollana : VM??? what its that?
[02:33]  * orangejuicecup slaps maxa_ around a bit with a large trout
[02:33] <phoenix_> says no media found in the drive
[02:34] <Evollana> maxa_ I will take that as a no
[02:34] <Sir_Gabriel> caught a trout Sunday before last... 24 inches and 4.5 lbs
[02:34]  * orangejuicecup slaps Evollana around a bit with a large trout
[02:34] <ward1234> will damn small linux work in virtualbox?
[02:34] <Evollana> Sir_Gabriel is that a metaphor for a new and cool OS?
[02:34] <ward1234> neverheard of it but wanna give it a try
[02:35] <darkorical> have you tried it on a different computer to verify it works and possibly on a different port on the same machine to verify the port is not to blame .... also are you sure its plugged into mic and not line in (I spent 2 days working on that one)
[02:35] <mickster04> !who
[02:35] <maxa_> ActionParsnip : Evollana : then what should i do now?  ive experience  this before, then someone from here suggest me to quote sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then its work, but when i tried again today, nothing happen
[02:35] <escott> ward1234, can't think of why it wouldn't
[02:35] <ward1234> ty escott
[02:35] <ward1234> brb wish me luck
[02:36] <Magnusson> darkorical: yeah i mean it worked fine before, i had it working(though it DID take some tinkering) when i had 10.10, but i upgraded and started everything fresh, and now...bleh
[02:36] <Sir_Gabriel> how can I take ownership of a directory and all it's files in it?
[02:37] <Evollana> maxa_ Can you paste your xorg.conf over at pastebin.com . Ill take a look at it
[02:37] <darkorical> make sure the software you are using is set to look at the correct mic (I fought with skype for a long time before discovering that it was set to look at an external mic instead of built in laptop one
[02:37] <phoenix_> !tab
[02:37] <escott> Sir_Gabriel, chown -R me:me directory
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Gabriel: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER folder
[02:38] <Evollana> maxa_ You do have a HD install right?
[02:38] <phoenix_> ActionParsnip: it says no media found in the drive, but I know the disk has data on it
[02:38] <Sir_Gabriel> thanks
[02:38] <escott> phoenix_, no media sounds like its not finding the physical disk
[02:38] <maxa_> Evollana : menas? i dont know
[02:39] <phoenix_> escott: the drive runs while it is trying to mount
[02:39] <ward1234> make sure the bios is seeing the hardrive
[02:39] <Evollana> maza_ did you just put in a DVD and start your computer. This will is called a live dist if you did so. All saves are just in memory.
[02:40] <phoenix_> escott: I am trying to mount it through Nautilus is there a better way?
[02:40] <escott> phoenix_, you could try a command line mount. sudo mkdir /media/floppy; sudo mount /dev/???? /media/floppy
[02:41] <Magnusson> darkorical: just moved all the settings around for input..no dice
[02:41] <brett__> so i upgraded my macbook pro 5,1 from 10.10 -> 11.04, and now my "command" button isn't recognized as <Super>.... any ideas? I'd like to be able to swap the <Control> and <Super> but both are mapped to <Control> which is quite annoying...
[02:41] <phoenix_> escott:  I am a noob, how do I do that?
[02:42] <darkorical> Magnusson got an old walk/diskman ?
[02:42] <escott> phoenix_, (a) figure out what the device for your floppy is. i'm going to guess it is /dev/fd0 of something like that. (b) open a terminal and run those commands (replacing ???) with the appropriate device
[02:43] <dcesiel> Hey I'm using eclipse from the 11.04 repo, but when I try to run it I get an immediate error and it outputs this error log: http://pastebin.com/PWA2aHMp
[02:43] <dcesiel> Any idea what's going on?
[02:44] <pythonirc1012> I want my ubuntu machine to boot in text mode, and when i run startx, go into gnome. I tried telinit 2, but that still gets me into gnome on boot. How can I do this?
[02:44] <Magnusson> darkorical: hmm i might have to dig around in boxes but maybe?
[02:44] <darkorical> get one or any other source of constant sound and plug it in directly to the mic port turn it on and up full blast
[02:45] <darkorical> this will guarentee a signal is going in
[02:45] <jrib> pythonirc1012: add "text" to your kernel line in grub (/msg ubottu !grub2) and modify your ~/.xinitrc accordingly (if gnome is not default when you run startx)
[02:45] <brett__> jrib, thanks for that, i've been looking for a way to get my fileserver on text mode by default as well
[02:45] <pythonirc1012> jrib: this is during booting?
[02:46] <pythonirc1012> is there a way to edit a file on ubuntu to do this instead of rebooting?
[02:46] <jrib> pythonirc1012: no, you make the modifications now... then next time you boot, gdm will not be started
[02:47] <brett__> so i upgraded my macbook pro 5,1 from 10.10 -> 11.04, and now my "command" button isn't recognized as <Super>.... any ideas? I'd like to be able to swap the <Control> and <Super> but both are mapped to <Control> which is quite annoying...
[02:47] <pythonirc1012> jrib: what file do i modify?
[02:47] <brett__> sony, you work for sony? :)
[02:48] <manlymatt83> Is there an issue with the 11.04 installer?   I wiped my old hard drive using dd (input of /dev/zero and output of the raw device) prior to installing 11.04.  The installer works fine until it gets to creating the first partition and then crashes (tells me to attach /var/log/partman and /var/log/syslog in a report).  I don't understand though, considering I just installed 11.04 on this machine earlier this week without issue (but then had to reinstall d
[02:48] <jrib> pythonirc1012: the grub configuration file (/etc/default/grub).  You add "text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. /msg ubottu grub2    please
[02:48] <escott> jrib, i thought text mode boot just disabled plymouth not "don't start X" maybe thats a side effect, but wouldn't it be easier for pythonirc1012 to change his service runlevels
[02:48] <Guest87053> guys will 11.10 have gnome 3
[02:48] <jrib> escott: if you read /etc/init/gdm.conf you'll see what happens :)
[02:48] <Guest87053> lol no i'm on a sony laptop
[02:48] <maxa_> jrib : can you help me, how can i switch back my normal desktop login, now i ve terminal login
[02:48] <Guest87053> which happens to be my computer name so i guesssed it used it :p
[02:48] <brett__> Guest87053, oh, haha. i work for sony imageworks :) i was going to give you a shoutout.
[02:49] <jrib> maxa_: how did you get "terminal login"?
[02:49] <phoenix_> escott:  it mapped it fine, not reading any floppy disks though and I know they have data
[02:49] <pythonirc1012> I guess I edit this -- sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:49] <escott> pythonirc1012, not the one /boot/grub its auto-generated
[02:49] <brett__> brb
[02:49] <maxa_> yesterday ive update some software, and today when i open my pc, its directly goes to terminal login
[02:49] <jrib> pythonirc1012: no, that's not the file I told you nor is it what ubottu's link about grub2 tells you to do
[02:49] <brett__> test
[02:49] <escott> pythonirc1012, also you must be running the old grub version
[02:49] <OMG_ESS> How do I know the size of the content on a folder ?
[02:50] <OMG_ESS> in*
[02:50] <jrib> OMG_ESS: du
[02:50] <maxa_> jrib : ive update some software yesterday, and today when i open my pc, its directly goes to teminal log in session
[02:50] <OMG_ESS> thanks
[02:50] <escott> phoenix_, what did mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy say?
[02:50] <phoenix_> nothing, just showed another prompt, no message
[02:50] <jrib> maxa_: sudo service gdm start   does what?
[02:51] <phoenix_> escott:  nothing just went to another prompt
[02:51] <escott> phoenix_, sounds like it mounted, check what "mount" says and then see if "ls -l /media/floppy" lists your files
[02:51] <maxa_> jrib : gdm start runnining process 1449
[02:52] <maxa_> jrib : whats that means?
[02:52] <jrib> maxa_: when you press ctrl-alt-f7, you see gdm?
[02:52] <pythonirc1012> jrib: I tried. didnt work..Replaced "quiet" with "text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[02:52] <jrib> pythonirc1012: because that's not all you have to do
[02:53] <phoenix_> escott: ls -l /media/floppy
[02:53] <t3k_no_> hello ubuntu comm...
[02:53] <phoenix_> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2011-01-20 13:14 /media/floppy -> floppy0
[02:53] <t3k_no_> need help
[02:53] <t3k_no_> trying to run updates
[02:53] <maxa_> jrib : its show something like "checking battery, setting sensor and etc, then the result all OK
[02:53] <pythonirc1012> jrib: I dont have .xinitrc in my home directory
[02:54] <pythonirc1012> what else do i have to do?
[02:54] <escott> phoenix_, can you pastebin your terminal session in full
[02:54] <roadfish> My PCI eSATA card fails to recognize my new Thermaltake hdd dock but the same cable works fine with hdd enclosures. The hdd never shows up in "fdisk -l" although I see some activiity in /var/log/kern.log ...
[02:54] <jrib> pythonirc1012: did you « /msg ubottu grub2 » and read about how grub 2 configuration works?
[02:54] <t3k_no_> but I keep getting "not enough disk space" prompt...
[02:54] <roadfish> I looked for the delta-point between the failed dock and working enclosure ... the main difference begins with "NODEV after polling detection". Any ideas on why a hdd-dock would fail but a hdd-enclose would succeed on the same eSATA port.
[02:54] <phoenix_> phoenix@Home-1:~$ sudo mkdir /media/floppy
[02:54] <phoenix_> [sudo] password for phoenix:
[02:54] <phoenix_> Sorry, try again.
[02:54] <jrib> maxa_: when you pressed ctrl-alt-f7?  How about ctrl-alt-f8 or ctrl-alt-f9?
[02:54] <phoenix_> [sudo] password for phoenix:
[02:54] <FloodBot1> phoenix_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <phoenix_> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/floppy': File exists
[02:54] <phoenix_> phoenix@Home-1:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[02:54] <pythonirc1012> reading it now
[02:54] <pythonirc1012> thanks
[02:54] <escott> !paste | phoenix_
[02:55] <phoenix_> sorry
[02:55] <hemang> hey there
[02:55] <jrib> pythonirc1012: once you run update-grub, make sure the text option was properly added in /boot/grub/grub.cfg .  If so, then next time you reboot, you should only see a tty login
[02:55] <hemang> i have some questions..
[02:55] <mahir256> lay em on us
[02:56] <hemang> about gparted,
[02:56] <maxa_> jrib : yes, ctrl-alt-f8 nothing happen ctrl-alt-f9 also nothing happen (just show me black screen)
[02:56] <mahir256> what about gparted?
[02:56] <hemang> right now i have four partition in hard disk
[02:57] <mahir256> okay...
[02:57] <dcesiel> Hey quick question, whats faster 10.10 or 10.04?
[02:57] <hemang> i have one drive with ext4 format. ubuntu use this drive to boot
[02:57] <mahir256> depends on your hardware specs
[02:57] <mahir256> okay...
[02:57] <hemang> other three drives is in ntfs format
[02:57] <brett__> so i upgraded my macbook pro 5,1 to natty 11.04, and for some reason my command key is no longer recognized as <Super> but is now <Control>, and my control key is also mapped to <Control>... is there any way to convert one of my <Control> keys to <Super> ?
[02:57] <phoenix_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605517/
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> jrib: it's /boot/grub/grub ;)
[02:58] <dcesiel> Core 2 duo, 2 gb ram, nvidea 8400
[02:58] <dragonopolis> To anyone: What is the Ubuntu 11.04 Livecd using for a graphics driver (there is no xorg.conf)  and edid hardware detection that is different from the desktop install?  The livecd gets my monitor settings and hardware adapters right but the desktop install totally screws it up. How can I duplicate what the Livecd is seeing when installing to the desktop.
[02:58] <t3k_no_> any suggestions??? alrdy tried  sudo apt-get clean but nothing happens
[02:58] <jrib> ActionParsnip: is that new in 11.04?
[02:58] <hemang> i have to install xp..so i have to convert that ext4 drive to ntfs
[02:58] <pythonirc1012> jrib: thanks, that worked
[02:58] <hemang> ok ?
[02:58] <maxa_> jrib : what should i do now?
[02:58] <pythonirc1012> how do i modify the text that appears when i login in the text mode?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> t3k_no_: can you pastebin the output of:  df -h
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> jrib: fairly standard in grub2
[02:58] <escott> phoenix_, ok can you run "mount" and see if /dev/fd? is mounted anywhere
[02:59] <sini_laptop> I'm helping out a friend that has a laptop with temperature issues - not related to Natty, but is there a way to help him cool down his system, see, CPU temps, fan speeds, etc?
[02:59] <jrib> ActionParsnip: it's always been and is /boot/grub/grub.cfg here
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> sini_laptop: grab some canned air and blow out the fans
[02:59] <escott> !info lm-sensors | sini_laptop
[02:59] <pythonirc1012> anyone using puppet here? or something similar?
[02:59] <mahir256> hemang: you can reformat the ext4 to ntfs. gparted supports that
[02:59] <darkorical> sini_laptop use a box fan as a desk
[02:59] <jrib> maxa_: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, try stopping gdm, and starting it again (I must go, eyes are refusing to stay open)
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> jrib: oooh my mistake, you are right
[03:00] <escott> sini_laptop, you can control lots of temp related stuff in /sys/power
[03:00] <phoenix_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605519/
[03:00] <t3k_no_> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605518/
[03:01] <sini_laptop> ActionParsnip, escott Darkorial  he did that. It is just a bad design of the laptop. He installed Natty hoping he'd have a little more control. Oh, I saw lmsensors get removed from my upgrade. I wasn't sure if there was a replacement
[03:01] <maxa_> jrib : just quote /var/log/Xorg.0.log not include the "check" right?
[03:01] <mahir256> dcesiel: probably 10.04, but only because it can use more than what's necessary
[03:02] <dcesiel> mahir256: what do you mean mor than what necessary?
[03:02] <mahir256> dcesiel: ideally, since it was made at an earlier time, it was made to work fine on computers of the time
[03:02] <jrib> maxa_: it's just a text file that you should read to look for hints
[03:02] <escott> phoenix_, i think mount was confused because you tried to mount onto a symlink and not a folder. so first ls /media and then pick a name that DOESN'T exist in that folder, then sudo mkdir /media/whatever; sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/whatever; ls -l /media/whatever
[03:03] <mahir256> dcesiel: now that the kernel has changed (and so has the bulk of packages), the power it consumes may be a bit more
[03:04] <escott> sini_laptop, lm-sensors is in natty i'm not sure why it would be removed during upgrade
[03:04] <maxa_> jrib : its say "command not found"
[03:04] <sini_laptop> escott, I wasn't either. I noticed it was part of the packages to be removed during my desktop upgrade.
[03:04] <jrib> maxa_: you must use a text editor to read it
[03:05] <sini_laptop> escott, I didn't see much to play with in /sys/power, but I've never dabbled in there before either.
[03:05] <t3k_no_> ActionParsnip: not sure if u saw it the first time... but thanks in advance!!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/605518/
[03:06] <sini_laptop> escott, it is possible I saw some extra package based off of lm-sensors being removed. I just remember seeing it scroll by
[03:06] <maxa_> jrib : text editor? i cant go anywhere at my pc, its just black screen and nothing can do except try to type something to solve
[03:06] <escott> sini_laptop, you can echo various values (from a root terminal) into some files in /sys/power to throttle the cpus a bit more conservatively. there are also gui utilities for those but I don't know what the names are
[03:06] <usr13> maxa_: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:06] <jrib> maxa_: good luck, I'm going to bed now
[03:06] <phoenix_> escott: I did that and it gives total 0  after the ls command, also mount does not show it mounted
[03:07] <usr13> maxa_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:07] <escott> sini_laptop, you could also try using powertop, its more oriented at battery life but it may help
[03:07] <usr13> maxa_: cat tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:07] <sini_laptop> escott, Thanks, I'll try those suggestions with him. I appreciate the help!
[03:07] <escott> phoenix_, then i have no idea what is going on. mount should give you an error if it fails
[03:08] <escott> phoenix_, are you sure it is fd0?
[03:08] <Sir_Gabriel> I think I have a corrupted install where are the md5 sums, and how do I do check it?
[03:09] <druciferre> Can anyone explain the "guest ok" option for file shares in Samba? (I asked in the #samba channel, but no one seems to be responding)
[03:09] <usr13> escott: What is phoenix trying to mont?
[03:09] <phoenix_> escott:  I used whatever as the name and it showed http://paste.ubuntu.com/605524/
[03:09] <PalinBachman2012> druciferre: i think it means, no user or pass
[03:09] <roadfish> Here's some more info: my hdd-dock works fine with USB but not eSATA ... but that eSATA works fine with my hdd-enclosures.
[03:09] <PalinBachman2012> druciferre: otoh, guest is an actual account sometimes
[03:09] <phoenix_> escott: no clue, how would I find out?
[03:09] <escott> usr13, some floppies apparently.... to be honest I've never mounted floppies on linux
[03:09] <maxa_> usr13 : i just type the less /var/log/Xorg.0.log, its become black and nothing happen
[03:10] <tensorpudding> floppies? that's just archaic
[03:10] <druciferre> PalinBachman2012, I don't think this is the case, because when I connect from a remote machine it still forces me to enter a username and password on the *nix system before it will allow me to browse
[03:10] <itaylor57> tensorpudding: try paper tape LOL
[03:10] <phoenix_> tensorpudding: trying to get personal writing off of them :(
[03:11] <escott> phoenix_, something is really strange about what you are doing. please put the commands in individually. and make sure that mkdir doesn't complain that the folder exists
[03:11] <tensorpudding> paper tape is older, sure, but how many people have actually used a computer with paper tape?
[03:11] <mahir256> PalinBachman2012: i understand that you're trying to help, but change your nick please
[03:11] <usr13> phoenix_: ls /dev/fd0
[03:11] <itaylor57> tensorpudding: I have
[03:11] <escott> phoenix_, also ls -l /dev/fd* to see what the identified floppy devices are
[03:11] <usr13> do you have /dev/fd0
[03:11] <usr13> ?
[03:12] <phoenix_> ok
[03:12] <PalinBachman2012> druciferre: on my sharing options, it says Guest account: allow others to connect with out a pass
[03:12] <tensorpudding> if you have a floppy drive, /dev/fd0 should show up
[03:12] <Sir_Gabriel> Hello?
[03:12] <PalinBachman2012> mahir256: why would I change my nick
[03:12] <usr13> phoenix_: Do you see /dev/fd0?
[03:12] <tensorpudding> !hello | Sir_Gabriel
[03:12] <tensorpudding> oh
[03:12] <tensorpudding> !hi
[03:12] <phoenix_> usr13: yes
[03:12] <tensorpudding> okay, i give up
[03:12] <druciferre> PalinBachman2012, I'm not sure we're talking about the same setting
[03:12] <mahir256> we don't necessarily want our political views to be expressed in our aliases
[03:12] <usr13> phoenix_: ls /mnt/floppy
[03:12] <cryptopsy> mount -t msdos concatenated my file names, why?
[03:12] <maxa_> usr13 : ive try again, and show sooooo many words, something like no layout section, no screen section available
[03:12] <mahir256> especially when this is an independent channel
[03:13] <usr13> phoenix_: Do you have  /mnt/floppy?
[03:13] <druciferre> PalinBachman2012, I think maybe you're looking at "guest only"
[03:13] <cryptopsy> somthing called abcdefgh is not called abcdef~1
[03:13] <cryptopsy> the extnesion was kept
[03:13] <t3k_no_> brb... pls let me know if you have any info...
[03:13] <escott> cryptopsy, because thats what msdos type is
[03:13] <PalinBachman2012> mahir256: if its a violation of the channel tos, written somewhere, i would like to see it
[03:13] <phoenix_> usr13: no
[03:13] <cryptopsy> escott: they weren't concatneated in windowsp
[03:13] <Sir_Gabriel> please help me find the MD5 sums for 10.04 lts alternative cd
[03:13] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[03:13] <escott> cryptopsy, just let mount pick the type and don't worry about it
[03:13] <PalinBachman2012> otherwise, i would assume you just dont like palin or backman, or maybe 2012
[03:14] <tensorpudding> 2012 is the day the world's going to end, you know
[03:14] <maxa_> usr13 : what should i do now?
[03:14] <tensorpudding> err, year
[03:14] <phoenix_> usr13: ok, done
[03:14] <escott> cryptopsy, if you dont use -t msdos mount will pick the correct vfat type with extended length file names
[03:14] <cryptopsy> mount doesn't know how to pick the type
[03:14] <cryptopsy> vfat faield
[03:14] <cryptopsy> is this permanent?
[03:14] <cryptopsy> what is the correct vfat type?
[03:14] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:14] <PalinBachman2012> druciferre: im looking at sharing options in nautius, and it says, Guest Access, for users without an account
[03:15] <escott> usr13, phoenix_ stop did you have any errors with the mkdir command
[03:15] <PalinBachman2012> but im probably not helping here
[03:15] <phoenix_> escott: no
[03:15] <druciferre> PalinBachman2012, I'm talking about in the smb.conf file, non-gui, i'm working on Ubuntu Server
[03:16] <usr13> maxa_: cat tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:16] <PalinBachman2012> oh my bad
[03:16] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:16] <escott> usr13, his /mnt/floppy was a symlink to floppy0 earlier (but i didn't want to tell him to delete it just in case it was connected to data somehow)
[03:16] <escott> phoenix_, then continue
[03:16] <phoenix_> usr13: escott : It did not give an error
[03:16] <PalinBachman2012> but it might be an issue with guest being an actual account used by windows sometimes
[03:16] <usr13> phoenix_: ls /mnt/floppy/
[03:16] <PalinBachman2012> used to be a gotcha for me
[03:16] <PalinBachman2012> cant remember how i solved it
[03:17] <phoenix_> nothing
[03:17] <cryptopsy> what is the correct vfat type for mounting fat32 with extended file names?
[03:17] <phoenix_> usr13: nothing
[03:17] <escott> maxa_, just tail -f don't need the cat
[03:17] <escott> cryptopsy, don't specify it, mount should pick the correct type
[03:17] <usr13> phoenix_: Then the floppy is probably an empty one.
[03:17] <usr13> phoenix_: Right?
[03:17] <phoenix_> usr13: the drive spins up, this worked when I had Windows on this, right before I loaded Ubuntu
[03:18] <phoenix_> usr13: disk has data on it, it did before
[03:18] <escott> cryptopsy, if it gave an error during the mount can you pastebin it to us
[03:18] <maxa_> usr13 : its say no screens found
[03:18] <usr13> phoenix_: Is there a properly formatted floppy in there?
[03:18] <Sir_Gabriel> OKay, I'm tired of this. "ubuntu md5 checksums are always on the release page yada yada" NOT ANY MORE!
[03:18] <usr13> maxa_: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <usr13> phoenix_: mount
[03:19] <cryptopsy> escott: it doesn't, how many times are we going to go over this?
[03:19] <cryptopsy> escott: it says invalid superblock or something something
[03:19] <cryptopsy> seems to be using the wrong codepage for extended file names
[03:19] <usr13> phoenix_: Does the output of mount show that /dev/fd0 is mounted at /mnt/floppy?
[03:19] <cryptopsy> escott: now my drive isn't even appearing in dmesg, i hate linux when things like this happens
[03:20] <escott> cryptopsy, ok sorry I hadn't realized you had tried before. i think you can specify the codepage in an -o mount option, but i'm not too familiar with the details
[03:20] <maxa_> usr13 : its say no such file or directory
[03:20] <phoenix_> usr13:  no
[03:21] <Khisanth> Sir_Gabriel: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/10.04/release/MD5SUMS
[03:21] <cryptopsy> escott: will specifying the fat type help? for example, 8, 16, 32 ?
[03:21] <Sir_Gabriel> thank you khisanth
[03:22] <escott> cryptopsy, this may help http://www.osnews.com/story/9681/The_vfat_file_system_and_Linux/page2/
[03:22] <escott> cryptopsy, looks like you can do this:  mount /dev/sda1 /myvfat -t vfat -o shortname=mixed,codepage=850
[03:22] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:22] <usr13> phoenix_: mount      #Does it show now?
[03:23] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo fdisk -l
[03:23] <usr13> phoenix_: ?
[03:23] <cryptopsy> escott: i was just paying with shortname, trying it now
[03:23]  * canthus13 tries the latest svn version of aircrack...
[03:23] <maxa_> usr13 : its happen like 2 day before, when u ask me to type the same text, but when i try today seems not work
[03:24] <phoenix_> usr13:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/605530/
[03:24] <maxa_> usr13 : its show no such file or directory
[03:24] <iwashacked____> When booting my ubuntu machine it says no init found and will not boot how do I fix this?
[03:24] <cryptopsy> escott: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other
[03:24] <cryptopsy> escott: that was the error
[03:25] <usr13> phoenix_: Are you sure it's plugged in?  (The data cable and the power cable..?)
[03:25] <escott> cryptopsy, i guess one question is... do you have the codepage installed that you need?
[03:25] <phoenix_> usr13: fdisk command does not show fd0
[03:25] <mahir256> iwashacked____: hahahaha jk what did you do?????
[03:25] <cryptopsy> escott: i wasn't aware the user had to set these
[03:25] <mahir256> clearly you did something, iwashacked____
[03:26] <usr13> phoenix_: Ok, that is kinda wierd...
[03:26] <phoenix_> yeah
[03:26] <iwashacked____> mahir256: nothing i rebooted one day and it will not boot and says no init found try passing init= bootarg
[03:26] <escott> cryptopsy, the kernel has a default assumed codepage which is usually the latin codepage. it may or may not be able to detect other codepages, but you can install codepages through apt
[03:26] <phoenix_> usr13: I am going to check the physical connection of the drive jic
[03:27] <maxa_> usr13 : i need you...
[03:27] <escott> cryptopsy, im not the person to ask though, as im pretty much only writing in english
[03:27] <usr13> maxa_: Ok... You need to tell me the situation again.....
[03:27] <cryptopsy> escott: thanks though
[03:27] <cryptopsy> escott: i've got a lead now
[03:27] <usr13> maxa_: I only have a fuzzy recollection as to what you were dealing with.
[03:28] <aranelnatty> upgraded to Natty and now It's stuck on the bootscreen, after "checking battery state [ok]" it just prints infinite number of dots to screen and doesnt start the GUI. Help me please?
[03:28] <maxa_> yesterday ive update some software and today when i open my pc, its bring me directly to terminal log in, i cant go to normal log in desktop
[03:29] <cryptopsy> escott: i have the 437 codepage
[03:29] <usr13> maxa_: startx
[03:29] <r3x> #dclabs
[03:29] <usr13> maxa_: What does that do?
[03:29] <r3x> join
[03:29] <randomusr> Hey all, anyone here run on a macbook pro?
[03:30] <mahir256> both iwashacked____ and aranelnatty: the old microsoft tip---try restarting your computer several times
[03:30] <r3x> join #dclabs
[03:30] <mahir256> randomusr: someone here...i forgot exactly who
[03:30] <phoenix_> usr13: drive is attached tightly and power is running to it, just no clue why it won't mount
[03:30] <maxa_> usr13 : its show soo many text but there "fatal server error : no screen found"
[03:31] <ratcheer> r3x: Put a slash before join...
[03:31] <iwashacked____> mahir256: i guess it is worth a try
[03:31] <escott> phoenix_, so this is a usb floppy drive?
[03:31] <potissimus> Would anyone mind helping w/ a tv tuner setup?
[03:31] <potissimus> dmesg says Ubuntu is trying to load one firmware, but I want it to load another.
[03:31] <phoenix_> escott: nope, it isan internal floppy drive in a dell tower
[03:32] <usr13> phoenix_: You should get some sort of error if when you try to mount, it is not successful.
[03:32] <usr13> phoenix_: Have you checked the cmos settings to see if it is dissabled there?
[03:32] <escott> phoenix_, ok misread... and it is a normal 3.5 inch floppy not an iomega zip drive?
[03:32] <studentz> maxa_ try first  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  stop
[03:32] <phoenix_> usr13:  not yet
[03:33] <phoenix_> escott: yes normal 3.5 came stock in the tower
[03:33] <usr13> phoenix_: Well, that would be the next thing to check.
[03:33] <usr13> phoenix_: Has it worked before?
[03:33] <cryptopsy> escott: it appears that its expecting codepage cp850 but only 437 is found, but this doesn't explain why it doesn't work when i pass it 437 with the codepage option
[03:33] <matt_o> so on ubuntu lucid, I log in and it says 17 packages can be updated and 12 updates are security updates.  Then I do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or "sudo apt-get upgrade" and it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."  Am I doing something wrong?
[03:33] <phoenix_> usr13: worked right before I switched to ubuntu
[03:33] <usr13> phoenix_: You might just pop the disk out and shouve it in again and then try and mount again.
[03:34] <usr13> phoenix_: sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[03:34] <mfpockets> matt_o try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:34] <phoenix_> usr13: I have tried several disks, all I know have data on them
[03:34] <ward1234> i think lucid is at the end of its life might wanna check
[03:34] <matt_o> mfpockets, same thing
[03:34] <mahir256> ward1234: no lucid isn't dead...yet
[03:34] <matt_o> lucid is LTS
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> ward1234: lucid is LTS, its supported long after even Natty is EOL
[03:34] <ward1234> thank god for that
[03:35] <tensorpudding> yes
[03:35] <ward1234> ty for the correction
[03:35] <escott> cryptopsy, this is venturing far afield of what i know  about, but there is also an iocharset variable which can go along with the codepage codepage=###,iocharset=cp###
[03:35] <tensorpudding> but by that time, you'll only be able to upgrade to 12.04
[03:35] <maxa_> studentz : its say rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, eg service gdm stop
[03:35] <mfpockets> matt_o no errors or anything, just 0 upgraded...  did you try to do it from the gui that is telling you there are updates to be had?
[03:35] <tensorpudding> which will have unity
[03:35] <usr13> phoenix_: I would check to make sure it's not dissabled in cmos settings.
[03:35] <tensorpudding> presumably
[03:35] <matt_o> mfpockets, yeah the update-manager says no updates are available too... I have this issue on all of my lucid installs (I have 4 of them)
[03:35] <studentz> maxa_  then sudo gdm stop
[03:36] <phoenix_> usr13:  and escott : Thank you both for your help, I am going to check that but am off for the night
[03:36] <matt_o> I am inclined to think the login report is wrong
[03:36] <mfpockets> matt_o sorry, so where is it telling you there are updates avail?
[03:36] <usr13> studentz: It will probably just start right back up again.
[03:36] <matt_o> mfpockets, when I log in to a bash shell
[03:36] <mattbillenstein_> hi all
[03:36] <usr13> phoenix_: Ok, sorry we couldn't figure it out for you.
[03:36] <mattbillenstein_> having some issues installing from a usb stick
[03:37] <iwashacked____> i think its a bootsector virus
[03:37] <mattbillenstein_> the filesystem is VFAT and that doesn't seem to support symbolic links
[03:37] <studentz> usr13 yep I want that forr now. :)
[03:37] <phoenix_> usr13: no worries, gave me quite solid ground to work from
[03:37] <iwashacked____> i guess rebooting the computer several times is my only option?
[03:37] <cryptopsy> escott: ill keep you updated
[03:37] <mahir256> iwashacked____: eh, it could be. where do you go that such viruses are prevalent?
[03:37] <mfpockets> matt_o that is definitely odd.  not sure why that is happening.
[03:37] <phoenix_> escott:  thank you for your help also
[03:37] <mattbillenstein_> so the installer fails looking for /cdrom/dist/stable/Release
[03:37] <mahir256> iwashacked: do you have clamav in your system?
[03:37] <aranelnatty> here's an easier question: how can I remove NVIDIA drivers? (manually installed from nvidia.com, not the nvidia-current)
[03:38] <maxa_> studentz : its say maximum number of X display ailures reached : check X server log for error
[03:38] <escott> cryptopsy, you may also want to modprobe the appropriate nls modules in /lib/modules-###/kernel/fs/nls
[03:38] <escott> phoenix_, goodluck!
[03:38] <matt_o> here's what it looks like just now: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/605535/
[03:38] <studentz> maxa_ now press ctr  + alt + F8   It will show  ablack screen.
[03:39] <cryptopsy> escott: codepages are for the native language support and appear as 'NLS' in the kernel, so i have to check if that support is there, for example: CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_850, also as an example, 855 is for cyrillic, 861 for icelandic
[03:39] <cryptopsy> 850 is for europe
[03:39] <cryptopsy> my driver wants 850, which is what windows created
[03:39] <maxa_> studentz : nope, nothing effect
[03:39] <maxa_> studentz : usr13 : nothing effect
[03:39] <mfpockets> matt_o definitely weird.  Even if the upgrade failed it doesnt even attempt to do the dist-upgrade (should update you to 10.10
[03:40] <studentz> maxa_ nothing effect meanings a black screen?
[03:40] <cryptopsy> escott: codepage 437 is for united states, canada, which is what i have
[03:40] <matt_o> mfpockets, I don't think it will do dist upgrade unless I change my /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <mfpockets> matt_o Ive never user server version of iso, so maybe this is only on server.
[03:40] <matt_o> I figured tons of people would be having this issue since I'm having it on 4 machines
[03:40] <mfpockets> matt_o  I did some updates a week or so ago on a box I have here, i dont recall adding any sources.
[03:40] <maxa_> studentz : no, its doest bring me to anywhere, its just be at result when u ask to type startx
[03:41] <mfpockets> matt_o are all 4 server installs?
[03:41] <escott> cryptopsy, i would try to modprobe whatever codepages you needed just in case mount isn't able to do the insertion for you
[03:41] <cryptopsy> escott: ive just compied this module, now i have to find out how to modprobe it
[03:41] <matt_o> I don't think so
[03:41] <studentz> do not startx still. Please
[03:41] <matt_o> well... maybe...
[03:41] <cryptopsy> maybe i have to reboot since my NLS is built-in, so if i have to reload NLS, that would be the only way to do it
[03:41] <matt_o> 3 of them are servers
[03:41] <usr13> maxa_: lspci |grep -i vga   #Show us what that says.
[03:42] <iwashacked____> mahir256: mostly just here- freenode
[03:42] <escott> cryptopsy, i think the kernel can have multiple codepages loaded, but im not certain
[03:42] <cryptopsy> escott: my codepage437 was built-in
[03:42] <cryptopsy> i think its called cp850
[03:42] <mfpockets> matt_o  Shouldnt need to add sources for a distro upgrade http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[03:42] <maxa_> how can i type the lpspci / (u means / (slash right? )
[03:43] <cryptopsy> escott: i have to solve why it can't find modules.dep first, will report back
[03:43] <jeffrash> will my GeForce 210 dual monitor setup work in 11.04?
[03:43] <matt_o> mfpockets, thing is.. I want to stay on Lucid until the next LTS release
[03:43] <jeffrash> I've heard there are issues with dual monitor setups
[03:43] <nikotiini> i didn't even realise that natty was already here... update manager should give you an alarm like "NATTY IS FUCKING ONLINE! DOWNLOAD IT YOU BLIND ASSHAT!"
[03:43] <maxa_> user13 : how can i type lspci / (slash its?
[03:43] <matt_o> (since they are servers I don't want to be upgrading them all the time)
[03:43] <tensorpudding> !language | nikotiini
[03:43] <matt_o> nikotiini, whoops! lol
[03:43] <IdleOne> !language | nikotiini
[03:43] <nikotiini> haha
[03:44] <bastidrazor> nikotiini: you sound funny.
[03:44] <tensorpudding> update manager is supposed to say when there's a new version available
[03:44] <studentz> maxa_ try this sudo kill -HUP `ps -ef | grep "X :0"|awk '{print $2}'`
[03:44] <usr13> maxa_: lspci |grep -i vga   #NO slash.  not /   |   Different symbol, the pipe symbol
[03:44] <crash1hd> I am using this in my fstab file sshfs#crash1hd@192.168.1.100:/home/crash1hd    /media/drive    fuse    port=2200,comment=sshfs,users,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,allow_other,reconnect,transform_symlinks,BatchMode=yes 0 0 and it works great except for one thing the drive shows up 2 times in the places dropdown (one works, one doesnt) and no its not in the fstab twice any ideas?
[03:44] <mfpockets> matt_o  Ya, im just pointing out that it doesnt even attempt the upgrade.  Lines 84-90 of your pastebin.  it shouldnt say 0 to upgrade since you arent on the newest distro.
[03:44] <xissburg> are there any sort of malware for ubuntu?
[03:44] <ratcheer> tensorpudding: It did for my Maverick
[03:45] <usr13> maxa_: Look at your keyboard, you see the \  and the | on the same key.  Use the Shift key to get  |
[03:45] <cryptopsy> does find / -name somefile open a stream to every file? i.e reading it?
[03:46] <usr13> maxa_: You should show us the log file:
[03:46] <usr13> maxa_:  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    #And show us resulting URL
[03:47] <ox> I want to replicate my synaptic pages on another computer. What is the easiest way?
[03:48] <maxa_> usr13 : its show 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller nVidia Corporation C61  (GForce 6100 nForce 05 (Rev a2)
[03:48] <ohelig> firefox am borked.
[03:48] <bastidrazor> ox: synaptic pages? what does that mean?
[03:49] <Xcytre> i installed vino, but can't find it in the ubuntu classic menu
[03:50] <ox> bastidrazor: My apologies. Replicate packages
[03:50] <t3k_no> test
[03:50] <maxa_> usr13 : should i type that to my terminal?
[03:50] <bastidrazor> !clone | ox
[03:50] <t3k_no> k.. for sum reason i was logged out....
[03:51] <t3k_no> hi ActionParsnip
[03:52] <ox> You guys are awesome. I'm on it!
[03:52] <pablo> hola
[03:53] <pablo> hola a todos
[03:53] <xissburg> how to format my partitions in ubuntu (live cd)? what tool should I use to manage it?
[03:53] <ratcheer> xissburg: gparted should be right on the CD
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> xissburg: gparted
[03:53] <pablo> hay alguien qu hable español??
[03:53] <thiebaude> !es
[03:53] <xissburg> ok :)
[03:53] <thiebaude> pablo
[03:54] <bin_bash> I'm mad guise. I can't use skype videochat without crashing my entire system.
[03:54] <ratcheer> guise?
[03:54] <acovrig> what would cause Xorg to take all CPU?  Ubuntu 10.10 AMD Athalon, 512MB RAM, SiS graphics
[03:54] <ohelig> guise.
[03:54] <ohelig> 512mb ram isn't a lot...
[03:54] <z3r0n0id> what is Xorg?
[03:55] <maxa_> usr13 : its request me to install pastebinit, but when i install its say some index file failed to download, they have been ignored, or old one instead
[03:55] <acovrig> ohelig: no, and try doing blender on SiS graphics O.o
[03:55] <ratcheer> Xorg is the display server
[03:55] <bin_bash> acovrig: Have you considered a less-intesive distro?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> acovrig: you may need an xorg.conf file to define the dislpay. SiS VGA chips need them if they do not pickup correctly
[03:55] <acovrig> bin_bash: like what?
[03:55] <mfpockets> maxa_ www.pastebin.com
[03:56] <ohelig> so, i have an issue with firefox.
[03:56] <thiebaude> ohelig: what kind of issue?
[03:56] <bin_bash> acovrig: Like... archbang
[03:56] <acovrig> ActionParsnip: would I need that if it works fine for awhile?  U mean /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> acovrig: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <mfpockets> maxa_  he was asking you to take the contents of the log and go to www.pastebin.com and paste the file in the windows and link the url here :)
[03:57] <arony> hey i have a problem my ubuntu is totaly crashed now
[03:57] <wifitroubles> Installed ll.04. Got the wireless driver. I was connected and doing well. perfectly. now, it won't connect at all. any ideas?
[03:57] <ohelig> since updating to 11.04, i haven't been able to start firefox without it using 100% of a core and never starting. I decided to use the -jsconsole option with firefox, and it turns out that I'm missing a chrome.manifest file
[03:57] <acovrig> bin_bash: btw, I am using icewm instead of the default
[03:57] <mfpockets> wifitroubles what is issue exactly? does it show in iwconfig?
[03:58] <ohelig> I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[03:58] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: When I did skype videochat on the other user, I didn't get a crash, but it doesn't happen every time, so I don't know if it was a fluke, Then, earlier when I was just doing nothing really, the entire thing froze and the song playing got caught in an infinite loop of one part for 6 minutes before I had to hardboot.
[03:58] <maxa_> studentz : nothing happen
[03:58] <wifitroubles> It keeps trying to connect but never does. It continues to pop up asking for the WEP and it's correct.
[03:59] <acovrig> I can never keep them straight, AMD: x86_64, Intel: i686?
[03:59] <ohelig> wifi, are you using a USB card, or an internal one?
[04:00] <[ARC]> bye
[04:00] <mfpockets> wifitroubles first if you have access to wpa protection I would try that. but to start did you try connecting to open?  and yes usb or internal
[04:00] <maxa_> mfpockets : sorry... dont know... heheh ;)
[04:00] <mfpockets> wifitroubles please let us know wireless card from lsusb or lspci
[04:00] <wifitroubles> internal. I connected with a wired connection and got the wireless driver. It was working perfectly for an entire day. I go to start it up today and it won't connect.
[04:00] <acovrig> is AMD x86_64?
[04:00] <ohelig> acovrig, yes
[04:01] <mfpockets> maxa_ your looking for help with xorg trouble right?
[04:01] <ayrton> guys i upgraded to 11.04 and now no wireless internet?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> wifitroubles: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[04:01] <acovrig> ohelig: and i*86 is intel?
[04:01] <thiebaude> acovrig: in  my case i have amd opteron so its both 32 and 64 bit
[04:01] <ayrton> it connects but doesnt get internet, other laptops do
[04:01] <ohelig> yup
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> acovrig: yes
[04:01] <thiebaude> imk using 64 bit right now
[04:01] <thiebaude> im
[04:01] <mfpockets> wifitroubles working before or after upgrading to 11.04?  what is the output of lspci
[04:02] <ohelig> ayrton, are you sure there aren't >5 active microwaves between you and the router?
[04:02] <ayrton> yes
[04:02] <Sir_Gabriel> YAY! finally got a good iso and starting burn...
[04:02] <maxa_> usr13 : /var/log/Xorg.0.log doest work "permission denied"
[04:03] <mfpockets> maxa_ sudo
[04:03] <wifitroubles> It was working in 11.04. now it doesn't. I can't get to the output at the moment.
[04:03] <mfpockets> maxa_ in front of the command
[04:03] <wifitroubles> hold on a second and I'll boot it up to get the output.
[04:03] <maxa_> mfpockets : im not sure
[04:03] <arony> http://bit.ly/ly0tLl this is a pic when stop work
[04:03] <mfpockets> and sudo gedit
[04:03] <ohelig> maxa, type "sudo" before the command
[04:03] <bin_bash> mfpockets: never do sudo gedit. do gksudo gedit
[04:03] <ohelig> never?
[04:04] <bin_bash> Alwyas use gksudo
[04:04] <maxa_> usr13 : studentz : mfpockets : command not found
[04:04] <doc|home> under gnome, when I move a window it tries to get the window to fit to some weird setup that gets on my nerves (it does this very well). How do I disable that?
[04:05] <mfpockets> still learning here guys :)  thanks  what does it do exactly ?
[04:05] <delaman> is this the correct way to prepare a USB "dd if=file.img of=/dev/sda" provided my usb is on /dev/sda    ??????? everytime i try it, it does not do anything on the usb.  :( :(
[04:05] <thiebaude> !gksudo
[04:05] <ayrton> why do i have wireless issues with 11.04?
[04:05] <bin_bash> gksudo means graphicalsudo
[04:05] <mfpockets> maxa can you do ls /var/log/?
[04:06] <bin_bash> it's what you use you to open a graphical program like gedit
[04:07] <ayecee> ayrton: because the world is not perfect.
[04:07] <allan8904> i have a touch screen device that works in windows, however when i boot into ubuntu it doesnt work. The event node that it creates doesnt output anything when touched using evtest. How would i go abouts debugging this?
[04:07] <ayrton> grr
[04:07] <mfpockets> sudo gedit opens a gui for me
[04:07] <wifitroubles> it it makes any difference, it was a wubi install of 11.04
[04:07] <mfpockets> and less letters
[04:07] <blackshirt> mfpockets: gksudo gedit
[04:08] <ohelig> allan8904, probably because it's a device made for windows?
[04:08] <nikotiini> how the hell can i make room for natty on my root it needs 1gb more
[04:08] <allan8904> ohelig: I installed the ubuntu drivers for it
[04:08] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: You still here?
[04:09] <Guest94597> Hey all, anyone here run on a macbook pro?
[04:09] <bin_bash> Guest94597: yeah I do
[04:09] <ohelig> mfpockets,  use gksu or gksudo when running a graphical program. while sudo works, gksu(do) works better. Don't question that amazing logic.
[04:09] <mfpockets> wifitroubles got it up and running?  lspci and find your wireless card
[04:09] <Guest94597> bin_bash, any slowness issues on your machine or gnome locking up?
[04:09] <mfpockets> wifitroubles then lsmod to see if the driver is associated with the device
[04:10] <bin_bash> Guest94597: which Macbook Pro and which Release?
[04:10] <KM0201> lol
[04:10] <mfpockets> blackshirt ok so you can open any file from the gui through gedit as root?  instead of typing out the path the to file with sudo gedit?
[04:10] <ohelig> gksu gedit
[04:10] <wifitroubles> ok. working on it. I'm a super n00b at ubuntu. I just installed it on Saturday.
[04:10] <bin_bash> mfpockets: use gksudo
[04:10] <Guest94597> running 7,1 with maverick and the mactel ppa support installed
[04:11] <ohelig> gksu gedit /path
[04:11] <ohelig> i think :S
[04:11] <Guest94597> bin_bash,  see last
[04:11] <mfpockets> lol, im just clarifying what that does, and why it is advantageous, and how I got told by 5 ppl to use that instead of sudo gedit
[04:11] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Ah. I have the 8,1 running Xubuntu natty
[04:11] <Guest94597> bin_bash, I'm also using the Proprietary Nvidia driver from nvidia - manual install
[04:12] <yuskhanzab> is there any software for edit and make flash like macromedia flash?
[04:12] <Paulo> alguem do brasiil i
[04:12] <mfpockets> wifitroubles im not that far ahead of you, using just under a year here.
[04:12] <ohelig> yes, macromedia flash.
[04:12] <arony> i have problem with my wi-fi device and i can log in ubuntu 11,04
[04:12] <Paulo> alguem do brasil ai
[04:12] <mithridates> is gnome 3 on ubuntu official channel now?
[04:12] <bin_bash> !gnome3 | mithridates
[04:12] <Guest94597> bin_bash, have you had any slowness issues?  also, 8,1 using core i5?
[04:12] <yuskhanzab> is there any software for edit and make flash like macromedia flash for ubuntu?
[04:12] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Just a lot of crashing.
[04:13] <wifitroubles> ok. I did that.
[04:13] <mithridates> !natty
[04:13] <mfpockets> can you see if the driver is loaded.  should have a similar name to the card you saw when you did lspci
[04:13] <Guest94597> bin_bash, prolly not a window manager issue then..... something with applesmc maybe?
[04:14] <Guest94597> bin_bash, which video driver are you running?
[04:14] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Intel
[04:14] <Intel_iX_> Anyone know a good screen recorder for linux?
[04:14] <Intel_iX_> Looking for at least 30 fps on one
[04:14] <Guest94597> bin_bash, intel? really?  is that a core i5?
[04:15] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Yeah
[04:15] <bin_bash> Guest94597: I hate it
[04:15] <Guest94597> I wasn't aware that pro's offered without ATI or Nvidia cards
[04:15] <maxa_> anyone please help
[04:15] <ohelig> since updating to 11.04, i haven't been able to start firefox without it using 100% of a core and never starting. I decided to use the -jsconsole option with firefox, and it turns out that I'm missing a chrome.manifest file
[04:15] <mfpockets> wifitroubles did you see the name of the wireless card under lspci
[04:15] <maxa_> i want my ubuntu back
[04:15] <maxa_> all my file are there
[04:15] <wifitroubles> not entirely sure what I'm looking for on the lsmod
[04:16] <wifitroubles> yes. I did.
[04:16] <wifitroubles> Broadcom Corporation BCM4322
[04:16] <mfpockets> wifitroubles what was it?
[04:16] <mfpockets> try lsmod | grep BCM
[04:16] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Yeah. Didn't even have a choice. If I hadn't gotten it for free then I would return it.
[04:16] <bluebaron>  /join #sql
[04:16] <bluebaron> gah
[04:17] <Intel_iX_> Are there any HQ video recorders for linux...
[04:17] <Guest94597> bin_bash, what's the north and south bridge on that model? or is it a single controller?
[04:17] <Intel_iX_> The only one I could find compresses it WAY too much.
[04:17] <ohelig> Intel, have you tried the search function on the ubuntu software center?
[04:17] <bin_bash> Guest94597: not sure
[04:17] <Intel_iX_> Yeah, I just got a crappy program though
[04:17] <wifitroubles> I did lsmod
[04:17] <Guest94597> bin_bash, output of dmidecode and/or lspci?
[04:18] <Intel_iX_> "istalbul" is what I found.
[04:18] <wifitroubles> grep BCM?
[04:18] <bin_bash> Guest94597: What am I looking for?
[04:18] <Intel_iX_> It's crappy though, the file is like, 320p
[04:18] <Intel_iX_> Framerate is like, 15-20 fps
[04:18] <mfpockets> wifitroubles you put lsmod then a | <--- that is called a pipe followed by a second command of grep BCM to search the output for the string BCM
[04:19] <Guest94597> bin_bash, just copy to pastebin.org
[04:19] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Why?
[04:19] <mfpockets> wifitroubles usually shared with the backspace key press shift
[04:19] <maxa_> please help me
[04:19] <Guest94597> bin_bash, curious to understand what the platform is like on that model
[04:19] <bin_bash> Guest94597: It's crappy.
[04:20] <bin_bash> Guest94597: It's the Sandybridge system
[04:20] <wifitroubles> ok. thanks. trying it now.
[04:20] <TheOoobs> Hey everyone, i need some help about screencasting on ubuntu 11.04 using ffmpeg and terminal
[04:20] <mfpockets> wifitroubles also linux will complete most commands for you if you type a little and then press the tab key.
[04:20] <Guest94597> bin_bash, that says nothing about why it might be crappy
[04:20] <bin_bash> Guest94597: A lot of stuff isn't supported for Linux yet.
[04:20] <bin_bash> It's bleeding edge
[04:20] <ward> ward
[04:20] <ohelig> since updating to 11.04, i haven't been able to start firefox without it using 100% of a core and never starting. I decided to use the -jsconsole option with firefox, and it turns out that I'm missing a chrome.manifest file
[04:20] <wifitroubles> It didn't do anything when I put that in.
[04:21] <TheOoobs> Everytime I screencast, their is a huge blackspot where the panel shadow is
[04:21] <TheOoobs> Please help
[04:21] <Guest94597> bin_bash, that makes no sense because you can prolly update your system from testing or backports
[04:21] <Guest94597> bin_bash, what's your tech background like?
[04:21] <studentz> maxa_ here again after a little break
[04:21] <mfpockets> try with the numbers that were in your broadcom device
[04:21] <mfpockets> or even broadcom
[04:22]  * bin_bash facepalms
[04:22] <wifitroubles> ok
[04:22] <PalinBachman2012> ohelig: have you tried moving the  hidden firefox folder to a new name, so it starts up from scratch?
[04:22] <TheOoobs> Could anyone please help??
[04:22] <escott> TheOoobs, use ccsm to disable the shadows
[04:22] <ohelig> the one in /home/ohelig?
[04:22] <TheOoobs> how?
[04:22] <maxa_> studentz : thanks a lort
[04:22] <mfpockets> wifitroubles do an iwconfig what is in
[04:23] <TheOoobs> i am a bit of a noob
[04:23] <mfpockets> wifitroubles the second set of quotes
[04:23] <intel_ix> I don't want to go back to windows because I can't do proper screen recording... My hardware can more than handle 1080p, the software wont do it though...
[04:23] <TheOoobs> how do you do that?
[04:23] <PalinBachman2012> ohelig: yes, it would be in your users folder
[04:23] <maxa_> studentz : ive try the code u give me, nothing happeb
[04:23] <bin_bash> Guest94597: No, YOU'RE not making any sense. The hardware is bleeding edge.
[04:23] <escott> !ccsm | TheOoobs
[04:23] <PalinBachman2012> ohelig: if something doesn't work after an upgrade, thats always a good place to start
[04:23] <maxa_> studentz : should i install gnome or kde?
[04:23] <PalinBachman2012> renaming the config dir
[04:23] <ohelig> o.o
[04:24] <studentz> maxa_ are you in a terminal still?
[04:24] <TheOoobs> after that, how do you disable the shadow?
[04:24] <TheOoobs> tell me the procedure
[04:24] <ohelig> It... uh, worked.
[04:24] <maxa_> studentz : yes...
[04:24] <escott> TheOoobs, its possible that encoding at a higher bit-rate might help, but if its is real distinctive its probably because your recording software isn't capable of capturing the alpha channel of the shadow
[04:24] <PalinBachman2012> yay!
[04:24] <Guest94597> bin_bash, bleeding edge is subjective.... Linux is opensource and no software is always ready for the hardware
[04:25] <escott> TheOoobs, just look through the options and find the one for shadows and turn them off
[04:25] <mfpockets> wifitroubles do you have an ethernet wire you could hook up with and pastebin the output of iwconfig lsmod and lspci ?
[04:25] <studentz> maxa_ this is the idea; first we need to kil x
[04:25] <Guest94597> bin_bash, opensource often depends on information submitted by the user community
[04:25] <wifitroubles> eth0 no wireless extensions
[04:25] <escott> TheOoobs, i think it is under window decorations
[04:26] <maxa_> studentz : ok, lets kill the x, how?
[04:26] <studentz> maxa_  xserver is runnig in the background
[04:26] <bin_bash> Guest94597: That's nice and all, but I'm talking about drivers.
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: why is open source a factor if NO software is ready?
[04:26]  * xissburg goes to live cd
[04:26] <studentz> maxa_ try this sudo kill -HUP `ps -fu root | grep "X :0"|awk '{print $2}'
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> studentz: nice
[04:26] <mfpockets> wifitroubles I thought you said you could "try to connect" with the gui
[04:26] <madprops> any idea why i can't access root's trash?
[04:27] <madprops> Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported
[04:27] <wifitroubles> Yes. I can. That's what's so weird about it. I can, and I have connected before.
[04:27] <madprops> how can I empty root's trash?
[04:27] <Guest94597> ActionParsnip, my experience is that driver support is always a bit behind.... don't know why it's that way
[04:27] <mfpockets> madprops do it from the terminal
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> madprops: sudo -i     then navigate to the usual trash folder
[04:28] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure what to do about Skype at this point.
[04:28] <TheOoobs> ok, so if i disable it, the problem will be fixed?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: depends on the vendor. Nvidia support Linux equally as they do Windows. They have done for years
[04:28] <mfpockets> but when you type ifconfig or iwconfig there is no device called wlan0 wlan something?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: intel also make great drivers for Linux, and more recently ATi
[04:29] <escott> TheOoobs, thats what I am guessing, but the try it and see
[04:29] <mfpockets> madprops hint use su - to drop to root user account
[04:29] <Guest94597> Yes I understand that in regards to video drivers. Though how can one determine their issue if they don't research it well?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: you can't make sweeping statements like that as they simply arent true
[04:29] <TheOoobs> ok, thanks!
[04:29] <Guest94597> ActionParsnip, - I give you bin_bash
[04:29] <madprops> where would that be?
[04:29] <madprops> i tried /root/.Trash
[04:29] <bin_bash> Wow. You're kind of a pompous jerk, aren't you.
[04:30] <kellnola> damnit. the power supply fan in my desktop just went out. how serious is this, with three huge case fans?
[04:30] <Walkaida> /whois $me
[04:30] <Guest94597> ActionParsnip, if someone complains about how bad the hardware support is and simply replies  "It's crappy" that's useless
[04:30] <bastidrazor> kellnola: i would buy a PSU.
[04:30] <mfpockets> madprops im not in front of my ubuntu box right now but its in same place as calculator its called terminal
[04:30] <maxa_> studentz : its result : >
[04:30] <Guest94597> ActionParsnip, how can one fix "it's crappy"?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: blame hardware driver developers dude, its not the fault of linux
[04:30] <wifitroubles> ifconfig brought up some stuff actually. I had only iwconfig
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: research is a good thing
[04:30] <madprops> ok i found it
[04:31] <kellnola> you still have to be careful with hardware in linux and do research
[04:31] <needhelpmounting> I cannot mount a filesystem from liveCD that is NOT in use. e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1 filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program e2fsck 1.41.11 (14-M1r-2010) e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[04:31] <Guest94597> ActionParsnip, you just confirmed both of my points
[04:31] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Is there something I can help you with? Or are you just going to treat me like an inarticulate idiot? I'm not here to defend why I dislike this computer. I'm here to talk about why Skype is suddenly causing system-wide crashes. So, unless you want to help me with that, then you can kindly stop.
[04:31] <mfpockets> wifitroubles but in ifconfig it lists all network cards you have an eth0 and what else ?
[04:31] <mfpockets> madprops type su -
[04:31] <mfpockets> then enter the password
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: if hardware manufacturers suported Linux too there would be zero issue, fortunately some teams make open drivers for hardware to help
[04:31] <wifitroubles> lo, eth0, eth1
[04:31] <mfpockets> madprops you may need to set a password for the root user account if you havent already
[04:32] <mfpockets> wifitroubles do you have two ethernet ports on the computeer?
[04:32] <Guest94597> bin_bash, that's wasn't my point to bash you.... pardon the pun, but the skype issues could be related to installed drivers/modules etc...
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest94597: I have hardware which will not run in windows because its too old and there are no drivers. Works perfectly well in Linux
[04:32] <bastidrazor> mfpockets: that is not a solution to any issue.
[04:32] <escott> needhelpmounting, it sure sounds like it is mounted. have you checked mount? you could also run lsof on /dev/sda1
[04:32] <needhelpmounting> How is it that I am getting e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 on a freshly booted live CD?
[04:32] <syrinx_> !ot | ActionParsnip Guest94597
[04:33] <nit-wit> lol ubottu
[04:33] <bin_bash> Guest94597: Actually I wasn't having any problems until I updated the other day.
[04:33] <bastidrazor> !noroot | mfpockets
[04:33] <bin_bash> brb
[04:33] <ohelig> bin_bash, have you tried renaming the hidden skype folder in your home directory?
[04:33] <mfpockets> madprops actually just do this gksudo nautilaus
[04:33] <nit-wit> you to syrinx_
[04:33] <Guest94597> bin_bash, skype uses specific instructions  to the Intel cpu's and recently AMD after they sued intel
[04:33] <mfpockets> madprops actually just do this gksudo *nautilus
[04:34] <mfpockets> madprops and no *.
[04:34] <syrinx_> nit-wit: not an ubuntu specific issue
[04:34] <Guest94597> bin_bash, have you found others with similar issues on non Macbook pro?
[04:34] <nit-wit> syrinx_, ;)
[04:34] <ubuntu43434> can anyone confirm that the / partition may be referred to as the 'ROOT' partition? i  need to assign it a label in gparted..
[04:34] <madprops> mfpockets: ah that's cool
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu43434: yes / is the root partition
[04:34] <wifitroubles> no. just the one.
[04:34] <panfist> does ubuntu make a distinction between packages seleted for installation and those that were installed incidentally as a result of selected another package?
[04:34] <escott> ubuntu43434, you could call it "ROOT" but you could also call it "UBUNTU"
[04:34] <ubuntu43434> ActionParsnip, ty, always a pleasre
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu43434: all other partitions mount to points in that partition
[04:35] <mfpockets> madprops now you should be able to delete whatever you want.  but with great power comes great responsibility.  :)
[04:35] <needhelpmounting> escott: this is a freshly booted live cd
[04:35] <maxa_> studentz : how?
[04:35] <studentz> maxa_  now stop gdm
[04:35] <Froq> is it possible to place a transmission icon in the menu-bar that shows the upload/ download speeds?
[04:35] <escott> needhelpmounting, i know but have you checked "mount" maybe it is being mounted automatically
[04:35] <ubuntu43434> escott, i like ROOT because all other are short too, OPT, BOOT, DUMP, WINXP, WIN7 etc :)
[04:35] <studentz> maxa_  sudo stop gdm
[04:35] <ubuntu43434> ActionParsnip, ty escott ty
[04:35] <mfpockets> wifitroubles I have a feeling its loading the wrong driver and detecting your wifi as eth1 instead of a wlan device.
[04:35] <ubuntu43434> i am dusf, see you around
[04:35] <mfpockets> wifitroubles can you pastebin lsmod and lspci ?  or make a forum post?
[04:35] <needhelpmounting> escott: just type mount?
[04:36] <escott> needhelpmounting, yes
[04:36] <xissburg> Natty looks cool :)
[04:36] <studentz> maxa_ next    type               X &
[04:36] <panfist> is it possible to get a list of which packages were explicitly selected for installation
[04:36] <needhelpmounting> i dont see it listed and the filebrowser and disk utility shows it not mounted
[04:36] <maxa_> studenz : just X & its???
[04:36] <studentz> maxa_ next type    export DISPLAY=:0
[04:36] <wifitroubles> Make a forum post? Yeah. I guess I could do that. What's the url of the forum?
[04:37] <nm5tf> frog: I use an app called CONKY-lets you do all sorts of neat things
[04:37] <xissburg> how to run a memory test? Is there a good tool for this? I think I may have hardware problems..
[04:37] <mfpockets> wifitroubles http://ubuntuforums.org/
[04:37] <studentz> maxa finallytype  gnome-session
[04:37] <mfpockets> but pastebin would be faster if you dont have an account already
[04:37] <escott> xissburg, the install cd has a memory tester on it as an alternate boot option
[04:38] <maxa_> studentz : export display need sudo infront o not?
[04:38] <wifitroubles> just highlight and copy to get text out of the terminal, or how?
[04:38] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: do you have any ideas?
[04:38] <studentz> maxa_  nope
[04:38] <xissburg> escott: you mean this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest?
[04:38] <xissburg> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: use terminal instead
[04:38] <mfpockets> wifitroubles yup just highlight and press enter it will go into memory, then paste
[04:38] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: ok i am in terminal
[04:39] <escott> xissburg, yes
[04:39] <maxa_> i type sudo stop gdm its result : stop : unknown instance
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: run:  sudo fdisk -l     You will see the available partitions
[04:39] <xissburg> ok thank you
[04:39] <maxa_> studentz : stop unknown instance
[04:39] <ohelig> bin_bash
[04:39] <studentz> maxa_ try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  stop
[04:39] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: heres the one i want: /dev/sda1   *           1        9328    74920960   83  Linux
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: ok then run:  sudo mkdir /media/stuff; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/stuff
[04:40] <bastidrazor> studentz: sudo service gdm stop ::is the proper syntax. maxa_
[04:40] <studentz> maxa_  depends of the ubuntu version. latest use upstart
[04:40] <ohelig> Is there a way to have Banshee media player import files without a file type?
[04:41] <studentz> maxa_ yep you are right
[04:41] <wifitroubles> I think I may have found a sticky in Networking  Wireless that solves by installing a different driver
[04:41] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: it seems to have stalled during mounting
[04:41] <mfpockets> wifitroubles thats where I was going with this, just wanted to see which dirver your system is loading for your card
[04:41] <Jordan_U> studentz: I think all supported releases of Ubuntu use upstart.
[04:42] <mfpockets> wifitroubles you may need to blacklist the system driver and load another driver
[04:42] <needhelpmounting> the dir created and i guess the mount command issued but never finishes
[04:42] <panfist> is it possible to get a list of which packages were explicitly selected for installation
[04:42] <needhelpmounting> and nothing in /media/stuff ActionParsnip
[04:43] <maxa_> studentz : so upstart gdm stop?
[04:43] <studentz> maxa_ yep
[04:43] <studentz> maxa_ just type gdm stop
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: what did mount output?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> maxa_: studentz: No, "upstart" is not a command.
[04:44] <wifitroubles> oh. I had downloaded it through Additional Drivers. It says that it's the Broadcom STA wireless driver
[04:44] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: just a blinking cursor; nothing
[04:44] <Jordan_U> studentz: maxa_: sudo service gdm stop
[04:44] <studentz> maxa_ servces bfero use initd now they are upstart service and thsy use stop and start
[04:45] <mfpockets> wifitroubles what says its the broadcom STA wireless?
[04:45] <mfpockets> wifitroubles did you pastebin the lsmod and lspci?
[04:45] <hosangadi_> i need some help, how do you disable the top panel shadow on unity
[04:45] <studentz> maxa sorry for the typos I'm coding in other workspace at the same time
[04:46] <wifitroubles> It says it in the Additional Drivers.
[04:46] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: if i try to reset the drive with hdparm will it lose the filesystem?
[04:46] <wifitroubles> I'm not sure what pastebin is...
[04:46] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: what is next?
[04:46] <maxa_> so sudo service gdm stop?
[04:46] <mfpockets> wifitroubles www.pastebin.com its so you dont flood the chat with putting the output of a terminal command into irc
[04:47] <Jordan_U> maxa_: Yes.
[04:47] <hosangadi_> i need some help?
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: if it won't mount, you may need to fsck it first
[04:47] <bin_bash> back
[04:47] <hosangadi_> how do you disable the top panel shadow on a unity desktop?
[04:47] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: thats what I tried to do and it says it is mounted but it isnt
[04:48] <hosangadi_> will anyone help me?
[04:48] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: e2fsck: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[04:48] <maxa_> studentz : Jordan_U : stop : unknown instance
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: are you in the installed system or the live cd / usb?
[04:48] <needhelpmounting> live ActionParsnip
[04:49] <needhelpmounting> the installed system is on the filesystem im trying to access
[04:49] <studentz> maxa_ means that the service is already stoped.
[04:49] <Walkaida> hey guys, how can i get a fast response by the lateral bar on ubuntu 11.04 ? someone knows ? is it possible ? thank you.
[04:49] <makem> maxa: isn't it enough with upstart that you give "sudo stop gdm"?
[04:49] <studentz> maxa_  now X &
[04:49] <maxa_> studenz : so now type the X&
[04:49] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: I cant even ctrl+c the mount command
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> needhelpmounting: close the terminal then
[04:50] <needhelpmounting> ActionParsnip: closed
[04:50] <mfpockets> wifitroubles anyhow, if your not gonna post it, good luck as I cannot really help much further.  I would look through the forums for your exact card (found using lspci)
[04:50] <tholl583xx> any idea why my ubuntu 11.04 laptop might be crashing when i reboot since upgrading from 10.10?
[04:51] <needhelpmounting> seems like there is something up with the drive ActionParsnip
[04:51] <needhelpmounting> i was guessing someone loaded a bootsector virus
[04:51] <needhelpmounting> reguardless i just need to recover the files for now
[04:51] <escott> needhelpmounting, if the mount command tells you that something else has the sda1 with an exclusive lock then something else has an exclusive lock
[04:51] <consolers> i'm trying to run 11.04 from inside a chroot, but /sbin/initctl is initctl.fake. how can i start some specific upstart job when /sbin/initctl is faked?
[04:52] <consolers> or when does that switcheroo happen from initctl.REAL -> initctl
[04:52] <needhelpmounting> escott: well what could that be? its a fresh booted live cd
[04:52] <escott> needhelpmounting, its not related to the drive it is related to the device file sda1. do you have any other programs open? can you run lsof on the /dev/sda1 file
[04:52] <maxa_> studentz : fatal server error, no screens found, please consult the X.org foundation support for help, please also check the log file for additional information
[04:52] <wifitroubles> ok. thanks. you were very helpful mfpockets
[04:53] <needhelpmounting> lsof /dev/sda1 lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow       Output information may be incomplete.
[04:53] <consolers> i need to make sure i get a shell prompt on startup. i'm not getting that, X doesnt start and i cant even get a login shell to see whats wrong
[04:53] <studentz> maxa_ good . Now press enter twice
[04:53] <consolers> if i mount the partition, i cant tell what the bootup procedure is
[04:53] <studentz> maxa_ now type export DISPLAY=:0
[04:54] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: "sudo fuser /dev/sda1" (though I don't know if that would actually find the program with the exclusive lock in this case).
[04:54] <nikhil_> hi
[04:54] <needhelpmounting> Jordan_U: it runs but returns nothing
[04:55] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: Is there any output from "pgrep fsck"?
[04:56] <needhelpmounting> Jordan_U: none
[04:57] <studentz> maxa_ did your box  explode?  ;)
[04:58] <needhelpmounting> ok i dont understand how there could be an exclusive lock on a freshly booted live cd
[04:59] <escott> needhelpmounting, can you boot to a more minimal runlevel
[04:59] <juboba> escott: what do u want to do?
[04:59] <needhelpmounting> i came to the computer and it was frozen so i rebooted and it said no init found and would not boot so now i am in the live CD trying to mount it and recover the files
[04:59] <juboba> ohh
[04:59] <needhelpmounting> escott: i'm not sure how
[05:00] <juboba> needhelpmounting: can u mount your filesystems?
[05:00] <escott> needhelpmounting, the livecd isn't as recovery friendly as it could be but I would think that it probably has a text boot or single user boot
[05:00] <needhelpmounting> juboba: the cd rom will mount
[05:01] <needhelpmounting> but nothing on this drive will mount
[05:01] <juboba> needhelpmounting: try fdisk -l as root
[05:01] <codex84> how u install a pc game
[05:01] <escott> if it is saying the device is busy then there may be problems with the device, it is saying there is a lock there is a lock
[05:01] <codex84> is already mounted
[05:01] <escott> needhelpmounting, see if you can access the smart status information for the device
[05:01] <escott> needhelpmounting, its part of the disk utility
[05:02] <juboba> needhelpmounting: escott did he try mounting manually?
[05:02] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: What is the output of "fsck --help 2>&1 | head -1"?
[05:02] <escott> juboba, he can't
[05:02] <needhelpmounting> juboba: it lists the filesystems fine
[05:02] <juboba> escott: needhelpmounting if he NEEDS the files he could force the mount
[05:03] <needhelpmounting> acessing smart selftest now
[05:03] <juboba> good
[05:03] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: What version of Ubuntu?
[05:04] <needhelpmounting> i tried to mount it manually in terminal and the process never ended or completed even after closing terminal its still hanging
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[05:04] <pythonirc1012> anyone who built a xeon diy system recently here?
[05:04] <escott> needhelpmounting, you may have a bad superblock or something that is causing mount to hang while trying to open, but leaving the kernel with the device open
[05:04] <needhelpmounting> Jordan_U:  sudo fsck --help 2>&1 | head -1 fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[05:05] <studentz> philip_ unity or gnome shell?
[05:05] <philip_> studentz, both.
[05:05] <needhelpmounting> ubuntu 10.4.2 LTS
[05:05] <escott> needhelpmounting, check smart data. power off completely, wait a few seconds, power on, run fsck first, then try to mount. that would be my recommendation. not sure what Jordan_U and juboba would recommend
[05:06] <needhelpmounting> escott: i was guessing a bootsector virus
[05:06] <needhelpmounting> but anyway its not as important as recovering my personal files
[05:06] <juboba> needhelpmounting: not likely
[05:06] <juboba> you should try what escott says
[05:06] <maxa_> studentz : box explode? ;)
[05:07] <needhelpmounting> smart data says disk is healthy
[05:07] <imtxc> 大家好，请教一下怎么样完整备份UBUNTU呢？
[05:07] <maxa_> studentz : already Display export its result : [1]+ exit 1                       x
[05:07] <imtxc> 因为我想把它移到别的分区
[05:07] <escott> !cn | imtxc
[05:07] <needhelpmounting> ok when i reboot what command do i issue to the liveCD to get low runlevel text only and i will try mount and fsck
[05:07] <codex84> to play windows pc games
[05:07] <codex84> do i have use to
[05:07] <codex84> wine?
[05:08] <imtxc> sorry~~
[05:08] <philip_> link to the forum for the natty + gnome 3 iso. please help by seeding! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10794646#post10794646
[05:08] <juboba> philip_: downloading for seeding
[05:09] <maxa_> studentz : how know?
[05:09] <philip_> juboba, thanks! appreciate it.
[05:09] <escott> needhelpmounting, if it has a grub-like thing then you could replace "splash" with "text" or "single" (you will just get the console), there are also a number of more recovery oriented livecds you could try to download if you have a working system to burn them with
[05:09] <studentz> maxa_ exit 1 means error.  did you type " export Display=:0" without quotation marks.
[05:09] <makem> needhelpmounting: You can find out backup superblocks first with "sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1" then you could try forcing e2fsck with using the backup block "sudo e2fsck -f -b <backupblocknumber> /dev/sda1"
[05:10] <needhelpmounting> escott: what are the other recover cd's im bootend into ram so i can burn
[05:10] <escott> needhelpmounting, its possible that ubuntu live cd may be trying to mount the recognized ext4 filesystems and then hanging on those mount processes, something like linuxrescue shouldn't do that
[05:10] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: From looking around this may be a bug in fsck.ext4, I haven't found a confirmation that this is the case or a work around (other than using a really old version of fsck.ext4, which doesn't sound great) yet.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/711799
[05:10] <rhizmoe> ugh. dia is kind of terrible.
[05:11] <Sir_Gabriel> hello again I STILL have the same problem with executing files. NOTHING works!!! whether they are downloaded from the internet or on backup drives. this is totally unacceptable. I did a fresh install even and STILL no beans
[05:11] <edman> is there any way to prevent the left-side panel from getting hidden on ubuntu 11.04?
[05:12] <maxa_> i just type export DISPLAY=:0
[05:12] <Jordan_U> needhelpmounting: If you get really desparate I know a cludge that will likely allow you to mount the filesystem safely despite the exclusive lock or minor filesystem corruption (with access being *very* slow).
[05:12] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: does `ls` work?
[05:12] <Sir_Gabriel> yes
[05:12] <maxa_> studentz : i just type export DISPLAY=:0
[05:12] <rhizmoe> so not "NOTHING," right?
[05:13] <aaron_wayne> can anyone tell me how to rmdir with other dir inside, was reading about and saw -r mentioned, but that doesnt work and the man shows -p which i dont quite understand
[05:13] <studentz> maxa_ you did it right.
[05:13] <PalinBachman2012> edman: install compizconfig-settings-manager and you can adjust the hide functions
[05:13] <maxa_> studentz : then how now? what should i do?
[05:13] <needhelpmounting> makem: "sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1" will overwrite my current filesystem i thought??
[05:13] <Sir_Gabriel> I NEED to execute this file I have a business building aircraft
[05:13] <Jordan_U> aaron_wayne: "rm -r", which will remove the directory and any files / directories within it recursively. Be carefull with this command though...
[05:13] <Sir_Gabriel> err virtual aircraft
[05:14] <aaron_wayne> that didnt work for me
[05:14] <aaron_wayne> let me try again
[05:14] <makem> needhelpmounting: Not with the -n option, it tells you the addresses of the backup superblocks.
[05:14] <bin_bash> Sir_Gabriel: have you tried chmod +x
[05:14] <philip_> seeders needed! ubuntu natty + gnome 3 made by cbowman57 on forum. Please help, and if you like that iso, get it and test also! http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=1b5a7165e7dd3a5e7ff399fa06f3772122758c10
[05:14] <studentz> maxa_  press ctrl + alt + F8,   to go back to the terminal ctrl + alt + F1 if yu are in tt. Tell me what you see .
[05:14] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Try (calmly) summarising the problem you are having again.
[05:14] <Sir_Gabriel> bash: ./X-PlaneDVDInstallerLinux: No such file or directory
[05:14] <aaron_wayne> Jordan_U, yeah, it tells me that -r is an invalid option
[05:15] <Sir_Gabriel> yeah I have done CHmods, downloaded file sharing stuff...
[05:15] <bin_bash> Sir_Gabriel: does it show up in ls?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> aaron_wayne: "rm -r" *not* "rmdir -r". rmdir is for removing directories which are empty.
[05:15] <aaron_wayne> Jordan_U, oh sorry, i see what i did wrong, i was trying rmdir, let me try rm -r
[05:15] <Sir_Gabriel> yes and in the nautilus program
[05:16] <aaron_wayne> Jordan_U, yeah, i just saw that
[05:16] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Are you using 64 bit Ubuntu?
[05:16] <bin_bash> have you tried double-clicking it?
[05:16] <Sir_Gabriel> I click it and nothing happens.
[05:16] <Sir_Gabriel> yes 64 bit
[05:16] <makem> needhelpmounting: I need to go to work. Sorry..
[05:16] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Is the binary 32 bit?
[05:16] <aaron_wayne> Jordan_U, cool, thanks for the help
[05:16] <Jordan_U> aaron_wayne: You're welcome.
[05:16] <Sir_Gabriel> ubuntu 10.04 .2 LTS amd64
[05:16] <maxa_> studentz : i press ctrl+alt+f8, its goes to black screen, ctrl+alt+f1 go back to the result export display
[05:16] <Sir_Gabriel> yes
[05:17] <bin_bash> Sir_Gabriel: if the binary is 32 bit it might not work
[05:17] <Sir_Gabriel> but I need 64 bit in order to access more than one core on the proc
[05:17] <bin_bash> mk but if the program doesn't work on a 64 bit machine then it doesn't matter how many cores you have
[05:17] <bin_bash> Some 32 bit programs are just fine on 32 bit machines, and some aren't
[05:18] <Sir_Gabriel> the program is SUPPOSED to work on 64 bit
[05:18] <studentz> maxa_ give me a sce
[05:18] <bin_bash> Sir_Gabriel: is it a file or a directory
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: That "No such file or directory" is an unfortunately worded error from the linker which cannot find the 32 bit libraries required to run the 64 bit executable.
[05:18] <Sir_Gabriel> others have it working.
[05:18] <Sir_Gabriel> it is a file
[05:18] <maxa_> studentz : ok
[05:18] <linuxrealm> Sir_Gabriel: correct
[05:18] <bin_bash> Sir_Gabriel: when you right-click it what are your options
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Try using "getlibs" to install all needed 32 bit libraries: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[05:18] <needhelpmounting> makem thanks
[05:18] <Sir_Gabriel> thanks!!
[05:18] <Sir_Gabriel> will try
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: You're welcome.
[05:19] <linuxrealm> Jordan_U: atta boy :) thats how we do things ;)
[05:19] <xd0odx> hey im running 11.04 on a HP Mini 210 and this has been happening since 10.04...
[05:19] <Sir_Gabriel> E: Couldn't find package getlibs
[05:19] <xd0odx> when i setup accounts in Evolution, the wizard doesnt fit the 1024x600 screen
[05:20] <Flynn> Hello.
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !pm | Sir_Gabriel
[05:21] <philip_> Flynn, hello and read this: seeders needed! ubuntu natty + gnome 3 made by cbowman57 on forum. Please help, and if you like that iso, get it and test also! http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=1b5a7165e7dd3a5e7ff399fa06f3772122758c10
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Read the link I gave you explaining how to get getlibs.
[05:21] <StealthPenguin> Sir_Gabriel, you need to download it from the provided link, not apt-get.
[05:21] <kr1pt0r> #meunubainda
[05:22] <Sir_Gabriel> oh ok sorry missed that.
[05:22] <kr1pt0r> ops #eunubainda
[05:22] <mickster04> xd0odx: alt+mouse clikc to move the window (you can click anywher eon the window)
[05:22] <xd0odx> mickster04: ill try that now, thanks!
[05:23] <xd0odx> also im seeding the ubuntu 10.04.2 iso :)
[05:23] <Flynn> I'm trying to dual boot my mac with ubuntu.  Powermac g5 10.5.8.  and my mac doesn't seem to see my ubuntu disk as a bootable disk.
[05:23] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: don't pm blindly
[05:23] <rhizmoe> stay in channel
[05:23] <Chaorain> hey, I'm trying to use MagicSetEditor but I get an error "error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64" Help?
[05:24] <Chaorain> I'm running 11.04 64bit
[05:24] <Jordan_U> philip_: This isn't the place to be soliciting seeders. Please keep discussion to Ubuntu support questions or go to #ubuntu-offtopic (though don't just spam the same message over and over there either).
[05:24] <Sir_Gabriel> pm? sorry how do you make the font red then?
[05:24] <StealthPenguin> Flynn, can you boot the CD at all by holding c at bootup?
[05:24] <rhizmoe> oh, Sir_Gabriel is a spam bot
[05:24] <Sir_Gabriel> no not a bot
[05:24] <rhizmoe> what did i just see?
[05:24] <kr1pt0r> hi
[05:24] <Sir_Gabriel> just new here
[05:24] <rhizmoe> humans can be bots too, btw
[05:24] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Nope.  Holding c does nothing
[05:24] <Jordan_U> Sir_Gabriel: Just include the nick of the person you're addressing.
[05:24] <kr1pt0r> koapksoaksoaksaksopkaos
[05:24] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: what did i just see?
[05:25] <kr1pt0r> o// hi peoples
[05:25] <Chaorain> Sir_Gabriel: Put their name at the front like so
[05:25] <kr1pt0r> :)
[05:25] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: did you just pm me a warez link?
[05:25] <Sir_Gabriel> chaorain like this?
[05:25] <cryptopsy> anyone know what kernel command produces the modules.dep file?
[05:25] <Sir_Gabriel> nope no links
[05:25] <Chaorain> Sir_Gabriel: yup
[05:25] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: what was it? if you don't mind acting like an adult.
[05:25] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Hmm, have you been able to boot up any other CD before?
[05:26] <Sir_Gabriel> I didn't send you any links
[05:26] <Flynn> Stealthpenguin, holding option gives me a blue screen w/a little pic of a hdd.
[05:26] <Chaorain> Sir_Gabriel: depends on the program they use too
[05:26] <rhizmoe> Sir_Gabriel: are you ashamed to say?
[05:26] <Sir_Gabriel> I'm using xchat
[05:26] <FyreFoX> hi, using 11.04 with unity on a dual screen setup with an nvidia card I seem to have issues dragging windows. if I use alt and left mouse to drag I can move the cursor to where I want it and a few seconds later the window jerks over to the destination. same thing if I use the title bar
[05:26] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, I never tried to boot from cd before
[05:27] <Sir_Gabriel> ashamed to say what exactly rhizmoe?
[05:28] <Sir_Gabriel> rhizmoe what are you talking about? I sent you no links or anything. what am I supposed to be ashamed about?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> rhizmoe: As far as I can tell Sir_Gabriel is just a new users that is slightly confused about how to use IRC. If you have evidence otherwise you can discuss it in #ubuntu-ops, but please stop making accusations here.
[05:29] <rhizmoe> well he sent me a pm with DVDxxx!!!! crap
[05:29] <maxa_> studentz : u got it?
[05:29] <Jordan_U> rhizmoe: Please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss this.
[05:30] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience with macs. Let me see what I can turn up. I'd give it another try with the bootup if you have only tried once, I know I miss my BIOS key oftentimes when I need to access it.
[05:30] <xissburg> so, I ran a memtest in my system, it found 10 errors :)
[05:30] <jtrevorj> Sorry to be a typical noob - but is anyone reading this?
[05:31] <xissburg> I do but I am also a noob
[05:31] <i_is_broke> jtrevorj, read what?
[05:31] <ProjectFox> im trying to install an old school windows game on ubuntu with wine can anyone help?
[05:31] <philip_> Jordan_U, i know that, and i'm sorry. We suppose to help each other.
[05:31] <Sir_Gabriel> cool! getlibs is working
[05:31] <h00k> ubottu: tell ProjectFox about appdb
[05:31] <Sir_Gabriel> well it is at least doing SOMETHING lol!
[05:32] <Sir_Gabriel> jtrevorj I'm reading it
[05:32] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, I must be missing something on my iso.  Or maybe it can't boot from a dvd.
[05:32] <GhostWolf> hi all, is there anyone who knows how to make a program quit or knows anything about amsn? i need help since im been having when upgraded to 11.04
[05:33] <jtrevorj> Thanks Sir Gabriel I'll get out of the way and go and read about what I should be doing
[05:33] <h00k> GhostWolf: it depends on the program, usually ctrl+q does it
[05:34] <Sir_Gabriel> jtrevorj no problem I'm also a noob
[05:34] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Is it burnt on a DVD?
[05:34] <Flynn> Yeah.
[05:35] <Sir_Gabriel> COOL! executed the file finally!! thanks peoples! =0)
[05:35] <GhostWolf> h00k, im talking about when it goes hiding on its own, the program aMSN been doing that as of late and soon as i load it i see it for a second and it closes ad i try to load it again but i can't log in to that one cause it says another operation is using it
[05:36] <ahriman> I'm still using 10.10 but I'd like to get rid of the stupid volume control popups. I'm using a plain 104-us keyboard and a 5 button USB mouse. I can't seem to get the volume popup that appears at random to go away, or find a button to disable. Please help :(
[05:36] <h00k> GhostWolf: ah, it sounds like it doesn't close to try or something. I don't use aMSN, I'm not familiar with it's behavior or if it has an indicator associated with it. Maybe someone else does know
[05:36] <xissburg> If memtest found 10 errors in my ram, it means I just have to trash it right?
[05:36] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: You said you might be missing something on the iso, did you burn it as an iso, what do you see if you try to access the DVD in finder?
[05:36] <h00k> GhostWolf: *close to tray
[05:37] <satya> hello
[05:37] <GhostWolf> h00k yea im trying to see if anyone else does, it only does it on the newer version of ubuntu, had little issue with it but never like this cause when i hit the x not close it out it goes up to the main system tray next to the volume control
[05:37] <xissburg> eh eh
[05:37] <MagePsycho> hi guys
[05:38] <satya> if i upgrade the kernel, can it requires any more changes in the server configurations
[05:38] <MagePsycho> i am having some issues with resolution which is not fine
[05:38] <xissburg> What do the memtest errors mean?
[05:38] <Flynn> I wish there was a Mac installer.
[05:38] <MagePsycho> i am using dell studio 1569
[05:38] <GhostWolf> plus i don't know how to use pidgen or empathy to message anyone
[05:38] <MagePsycho> how to increase the resolution..
[05:38] <studentz> maxa_ try export | grep -q '^DISPLAY=' && echo Ok || echo Not Exported
[05:38] <MagePsycho> the fonts are not so fine
[05:38] <Guest53187> how do i install java in mozilla ubuntu 11.04
[05:38] <Guest53187> ?
[05:38] <MagePsycho> this is driving my nuts
[05:38] <Flynn> In case anyone can't tell I hate to work at anything.
[05:39] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: It'll work out once you can get the DVD to boot.
[05:39] <MagePsycho> how to increase the resolution & remove the blurry fonts?
[05:39] <GhostWolf> is there any way to revert to a previous ubuntu that i had before i upgraded? i upgraded through update manager
[05:39] <Sir_Gabriel> got the simulator working YAYS!! thanks ttyl
[05:39] <ahriman> I'm still using 10.10 but I'd like to get rid of the stupid volume control popups. I'm using a plain 104-us keyboard and a 5 button USB mouse. I can't seem to get the volume popup that appears at random to go away, or find a button to disable. Please help :(
[05:39] <ahriman> MagePsycho: System, Preferences, Monitors on 10.10
[05:40] <MagePsycho> nope in 11.04
[05:40] <MagePsycho> there was very less option there
[05:40] <MagePsycho> though my monitor supports more
[05:40] <crash1hd> Hey all I have been trying to figure this out for awhile thought I had and now I am starting over sadly ok I am trying to connect my 2 ubuntu machines together by mounting the / from ubuntu b to ubuntu a in fstab figured out I could do this with either nfs or sshfs tried the sshfs and found it works as long as I enter the password on reboot every time (which doesnt work for me) trying to get nfs to work and having issues keep gettin
[05:40] <crash1hd> g connection timed out help :) please
[05:40] <xd0odx> Guest53187: if you want to install the Java Runtime, open a terminal with ctrl+alt+T and install this meta-package... ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:40] <ahriman> You can downgrade the desktop to the classic view and not "search" for everything at the login page
[05:40] <Guest53187> i dont know how to
[05:41] <Guest53187> ubuntu is giving me a headache
[05:41] <coz_> Guest53187,  ubuntu 11.04 ...yes?
[05:41] <GhostWolf> MagePsycho, the screen resolution to change that is where your logout area is, on the bottom says system settings then in hardware click monitors
[05:41] <xd0odx> Guest53187: just be patient dont worry :)
[05:41] <Guest53187> yes
[05:41] <maxa_> studentz : not exported
[05:41] <ahriman> crash1hd: NFS is quite big, you should look at "user id squashing"
[05:41] <r3m> GNU Screen + irssi = ROCK! baby
[05:41] <xd0odx> Guest53187: first open the terminal with the shortcut
[05:41] <maxa_> studentx : result ; not exported
[05:41] <crash1hd> ahriman, user id squashing?
[05:41] <coz_> Guest53187,   log off and just after putting your password and hitting enter,, change the session to classic then hit enter
[05:41] <MagePsycho> can you tell me .. why the fonts are not so fine.. kinda blurry
[05:42] <MagePsycho> ?
[05:42] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Autorun.inf, casper folder dists folder, install folder, iso linux folder, md5sum text file, pic folder, pool folder, preseed folder, readme disk defines file, ubuntu dvd shortcut, wubi.exe
[05:42] <xd0odx> Guest53187: then enter this command... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:42] <studentz>  maxa_ try this ps -ef | grep "X :0"
[05:42] <GhostWolf> MagePsycho, i just told you how
[05:43] <mickey> i used "sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio" to remove pulse audio so my veetle audio wouldnt be out of sync.  is there anyway to get pulseaudio back?
[05:43] <GhostWolf> MagePsycho, where you go to when you log out or shut down your pc, it has the system settings there its on the very bottom
[05:43] <crash1hd> I think the only issue I am having is that ubuntu b the one I am trying to connect to doesnt have a /etc/exports file
[05:43] <MagePsycho> i tried with System, Preferences, Monitors
[05:43] <ahriman> crash1hd: for NFS, it allows you to export a share to be owned by another user. In going through the steps there, it will cover the config files in depth. I'm not sure what your actual problem is, but the tutorials for that depth of NFS will guide you through quite a bit. Also, the User ID squashing is highly recommended for security
[05:43] <Guest53187> im already in classic, i just entered the command, thank you
[05:43] <GhostWolf> well MagePsycho thats the only way to change your screen resoultion on your monitor
[05:43] <xd0odx> Guest53187: i used to be a novice so dont worry :)
[05:43] <Bangkalan> I can't install xchat dektop
[05:44] <ahriman> I'm still using 10.10 but I'd like to get rid of the stupid volume control popups. I'm using a plain 104-us keyboard and a 5 button USB mouse. I can't seem to get the volume popup that appears at random to go away, or find a button to disable. Please help :(
[05:44] <GhostWolf> can someone tell me the command to fully remove a program? i keep forgetting
[05:44] <Guest53187> why cant things self-install
[05:44] <celthunder> GhostWolf: ap-get purge
[05:44] <GhostWolf> ahriman, i never had any volume popup
[05:44] <ahriman> sudo apt-get remove <pkgname> will get rid of most stuff, some dpkg --purge <pkg> will get rid of more ?
[05:44] <maxa_> studentz : mung (my login id) 1395 1340 0 12.43 tty 00:00:00 grep x : 0
[05:44] <GhostWolf> celthunder, then the name of the program right?
[05:45] <celthunder> ahriman: in gnome on the taskbar? just delete it from the taskbar
[05:45] <celthunder> GhostWolf: uhm apparently it's dpkg --purge
[05:45] <heavy_bullets> hi guys.. hey i need some help here.. it seems i broke down my ubuntu 11.04 by installing Gnome- shell  (now i can't access the file Manager nor see anything on the desktop...) any fix for this?? (if i uninstall gnome shell and go back to unity the file manager is still broken :S)
[05:45] <GhostWolf> cellardoor, say amsn is it sudo apt-get purge amsn?
[05:45] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Did you download the Windows installer? It shouldn't be wubi, I'm not sure you can use wubi on a mac.
[05:45] <Abhijit> help
[05:45] <Abhijit> ibus is not working for thunderbird latest versioon.
[05:46] <studentz> maxa_ nothing like /usr/bin/X
[05:46] <ahriman> celthunder, GhostWolf: top right where all the silly popups appear for notification on mail and IM, the same dialog independent of the taskbar will sometimes have volume info. It will scroll by itself, sit there for hours, etc
[05:46] <Flynn> Does ubuntu need intel?
[05:46] <maxa_> studentz : no
[05:46] <celthunder> Flynn: no
[05:46] <GhostWolf> ahriman, like i said never had that problem and i know the popups but never had any of that on 10.10
[05:46] <celthunder> Flynn: should work on arm/powerpc /etc
[05:46] <crash1hd> what I am wondering right now is what should /etc/exports be root:root? and r+x? or what
[05:46] <ahriman> ok, thx for the help GhostWolf :/
[05:46] <studentz> maxa_ X server is not running.
[05:47] <GhostWolf> ahriman, but as cellthunder said remove it from the tray if it does that
[05:47] <heavy_bullets> anybody know how to fix this issue?
[05:47] <ahriman> crash1hd: don't export /  rw as root, you just gave away the machine to anyone who wants it
[05:47] <Guy-Incognito> ahoy, just tried installing 11.04 64 and 32-bit for the first time, same issue...  bootloader installation failure... afterward unable to "continue without installing bootloader" or any other option, "OK" button does nothing... anyone seen this?
[05:47] <maxa_> studentz : then how?? its that means cannot repair? coz i need my document inside
[05:47] <kosaidpo> hello
[05:47] <Abhijit> ibus is not working for thunderbird latest versioon.
[05:47] <Abhijit> help
[05:47] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, wubi won't open.  Mac thinks its a compressed file, tries to extract it then tries to extracrt it and returns an eror.
[05:47] <kosaidpo> i have found on a man page this gittutorial(7) how can i display it ? thanks
[05:47] <studentz> maxa_ No. We can recover everything
[05:47] <GhostWolf> is there anyone here who uses amsn and on 11.04?
[05:48] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: i would try setting up your partitions manually, and specifically telling the bootloader where to go
[05:48] <studentz> maxa_ now please restart your box. When you are in a console let me know it
[05:48] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201, i'll give that another shot
[05:48] <maxa_> studentz : you mean sudo reboot?
[05:48] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: did you already try that?
[05:48] <crash1hd> ahriman, what would make you think I was doing that?
[05:48] <studentz> maxa_ we will repeat again the procedure.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Flynn: If it contains wubi.exe then I'm pretty sure you didn't get the PPC iso, which is what you need for a PPC mac.
[05:48] <kosaidpo> i have found on a man page this  --> gittutorial(7) how can i access it  ?
[05:49] <studentz> maxa_ sudo reboot is ok
[05:49] <crash1hd> ahriman, and isnt that the point of the exports folder is to limit it to specific ip's only
[05:49] <maxa_> studentz : console its means in where?
[05:49] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Yeah, I was just looking at the download page, I don't think you got the right iso either.
[05:49] <studentz> maxa_ is another name for termina
[05:50] <Flynn> Where's the right one?
[05:50] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[05:50] <ahriman> crash1hd: There is a protocol weakness there, doing / as r and root still hands out /etc/shadow. The IP limitation is... weak. I could do arp cache poisoning on switch, could DoS then switch IP, etc. Don't trust it.
[05:50] <Flynn> The ubuntu page should ask what if you're using a ppc mac.
[05:50] <maxa_> studentz : ok, sorry, thanks
[05:50] <Jordan_U> StealthPenguin: There are no PPC isos on that page...
[05:50] <studentz> maxa np.
[05:51] <crash1hd> ahriman, right what about being behind a router?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> Flynn: PowerPC isn't officially supported.
[05:51] <maxa_> studentz : im in the terminal now
[05:51] <matt_o> kevin flynn!
[05:51] <Flynn> well, it should be.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: really?
[05:52] <Flynn> matt_o yeah, i thought it was important for a chat concerning a free os.
[05:52] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: It's been community supported only for a few years now.
[05:52] <matt_o> Flynn, hehehehe
[05:52] <c00l_dude> +r
[05:52] <ahriman> crash1hd: that limits the attacks to your network segment. But it also means that if one machine is comprimised they both are. User ID squashing will limit and prevent that more. Again, as I said, good security practice and will likely fix your other NFS problems.
[05:52] <matt_o> my user has information which could.. which could make this a FREE SYSTEM again!
[05:52] <Flynn> *appropriate
[05:52] <Abhijit> c00l_dude, /umode +R
[05:53] <GhostWolf> does anyone here have amsn installed and use it on 11.04?
[05:53] <Guest53187> it finished installing
[05:53] <xd0odx> looks like we have a Tron fan here xD
[05:53] <ahriman> crash1hd: and if you have a wireless router, not even WPA2 will be genuinely secure in the days of CUDA and Rainbow Tables. WPA can be beat using Amazon's cloud for less than the cost of a taco.
[05:53] <crash1hd> ahriman, right any good tutorials on user ID squashing
[05:53] <Flynn> Yeah, under burn your cd or create a usb drive i select cd and then mac
[05:53] <maxa_> studentz : im in the terminal
[05:53] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201: Yes, and I'm surprised that the dialog box does nothing when I hit OK after the error.  I had planned on finishing the install without Grub2 and just installing it later from a Live CD.  I'll try manually configuring partitions again though.
[05:53] <studentz> maxa_ good
[05:53] <djazz> what to do when caps and scroll lock are flashing except hard shutoff? kernel error i'd suppose?
[05:54] <Flynn> Is there a better supported distro for mac ppc?
[05:54] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: when you did it manually, where did you try to put grub?
[05:54] <studentz> maxa_ now ctr+alt+F8 tell me what you see
[05:54] <ahriman> The ones I read are 10 years old lol. Try google... anything by Linux Professional Institute in general is good. NFS is a *nix thing tho
[05:54] <doc|home> Flynn: I've got a phone more powerful than your computer. Really, it's time to upgrade :)
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> djazz: kernel panic
[05:54] <cowslammer> i want to install LAMP (on lucid).  how do I make it so Apache doesn't start automatically on reboot?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[05:55] <maxa_> studentz : its doest bring me to anywhere, still in the terminal log in screen
[05:55] <Abhijit> ibus is not working for thunderbird latest versioon.
[05:55] <Abhijit> help
[05:55] <djazz> yes, but what to do about it?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: are there bugs reported?
[05:55] <studentz> maxa_ good
[05:55] <GhostWolf> does anyone know how to revert to the last version of ubuntu? i upgraded via update manager i didn't do a hard install
[05:55] <Flynn> doc|home, i didn't insult your computer did I?
[05:56] <studentz> maxa_ did you already log in?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> GhostWolf: you will need to reinstall if you want Maverick again
[05:56] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, amm no idea.
[05:56] <maxa_> studentz : i do (in the terminal log in screen)
[05:56] <xd0odx> GhostWolf: what problems are u having?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: check, it may be a known issue
[05:56] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, ok
[05:57] <Flynn> 2 gigs of ram and a 2 ghz processor so far has proven sufficient.
[05:57] <cowslammer> i want to install LAMP (on lucid).  how do I make it so Apache doesn't start automatically on reboot?
[05:57] <doc|home> Flynn: nor did I insult yours. It's what most people would call a joke.
[05:57] <GhostWolf> xd0odx, getting aMSN to work it was working earlier and now whenever i load it it closes on its own real fast, now whenever i re-open it and try to log in it says another program is in use with my email addy and its only that and i don't know if fully removing it will work
[05:57] <ahriman> cowslammer: scroll up and read about the boot options
[05:58] <jmwpc> I'm trying to install the drivers for a wireless adapter (Patriot PCBOWAU2-N). Since Ubuntu doesn't find it, I am using the vendor's driver which needs to be compiled. The vendor documentation is minimal, so I was just trying some generic instructions I found, which were ./configure -> make -> make install. There is no ./configure file, and make produces the error posted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/605560/ .. I also posted a file list 
[05:58] <djazz> ActionParsnip, this is happening when i try to shutdown
[05:58] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201: /dev/sda
[05:58] <xd0odx> GhostWolf: strange, i installed 10.10 and then upgraded to 11.04 with Distribution Upgrade with no problems... try asking somebody else
[05:58] <Flynn> doc|home, I'm sensitive about my Mac.
[05:58] <KM0201> hmm
[05:59] <crash1hd> ahriman, ok does that mean I dont need an exports file?
[05:59] <GhostWolf> xd0odx, its not ubuntu im having the issue with, its aMSN in 11.04 like it doesn't belong on 11.04 and i don't know how to use pidgin or empathy messenger
[05:59] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: i know this will sound retarded, but /dev/sda is your internal hard drive, right?.. i've saw some instances, where /sda gets detected as a uSB
[05:59] <GhostWolf> and he leasves S:
[05:59] <studentz> maxa_  give me a sec
[06:00] <wonderbat> does the ubuntu-11.04-alternate come with gnome as well?
[06:00] <cryptopsy> how can i pipe the multiple Cpu's line from top into a file?
[06:00] <LULLING_HARD> I get occasional hard freezes in Firefox when watching flash vids.  This seems rather odd for a flash crash.  These freezes cause me to have to do a hard reboot.  I have no idea how to diagnose the problem as there's nothing left in the log files.  Does this sound like a hardware issue?
[06:00] <mickster04> !alternate | wonderbat
[06:00] <ahriman> crash1hd: depends on the config you want. I like /etc/exports but you need multiple layers of protection to make NFS just "bad" and not "horrible" security
[06:01] <nit-wit> KM0201, sda sdb sdc they are all indicators of a drive usb thumb, external drive...etc
[06:01] <KM0201> nit-wit: i understand that..
[06:01] <crash1hd> ahriman, am I better off using sshfs?
[06:01] <ahriman> LULLING_HARD: probably video accel on your version of flash.
[06:01] <q0_0p> anyone having problems with flash
[06:01] <q0_0p> with firefox
[06:01] <KM0201> nit-wit: but iv'e saw situations where an internal drive, was detected as sdb, and the USB was detected as sda.. this could be a reason for a grub install failure
[06:01] <q0_0p> using the newest flahs
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep gnash
[06:01] <djazz> is the wine launcher bug in 11.04 a problem with wine or unity?
[06:01] <q0_0p> flash doesn't load
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: use http://pastebin.com
[06:01] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Perhaps I found the proper iso, check to see if your hardware is there. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/
[06:02] <codingenesis> best way to partition  my hardisk, so that i can have my home partitioned installed even after installing new ubuntu
[06:02] <ahriman> crash1hd: There are a couple secure file shares, but i don't know enuf about them to trust them. I personally just use scp with preshared keys.
[06:02] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: The powerpc iso is the top one.
[06:02] <studentz> maxa_ type sudo service gdm stop
[06:02] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201: yeah, and I get the same bootloader install failure error whether I use a single non-RAID drive or whether I have 2 in a RAID 0 stripe
[06:02] <LULLING_HARD> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/jkinMph0
[06:02] <nit-wit> KM0201, this happens yes you just have to make sure grub is pointed at the correct mbr
[06:02] <KM0201> nit-wit: thus why i asked him if he made sure grub was going to the internal drive... :)
[06:03] <nit-wit> KM0201, a sudo fdisk -l will tell you every time
[06:03] <studentz> maxa_  try sudo gdm stop
[06:03] <KM0201> yes
[06:03] <crash1hd> ahriman, I just want something that works like windows networking where it allows me to share files between the 2 machines and allows me to create shortcuts to those files on each machine advice?
[06:03] <root> tofo
[06:03] <root> f
[06:03] <nit-wit> KM0201, I haven't been following on the chat
[06:03] <root> f
[06:03] <FloodBot1> root: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <ahriman> crash1hd: you can "get" and "push" with scp, even remote src and remote dest, plus there is no extra permissions or extra weaknesses, all limited by your user
[06:03] <Flynn> Oooh, yeah1  that might work!
[06:03] <Jordan_U> codingenesis: Just allow the installer to partition automatically (creating just a single root partition and a swap partition). You can re-install preserving /home without having a separate /home partition.
[06:03] <root> fi not
[06:04] <KM0201> nit-wit: no biggie, you pretty much just said exactly what i said to him though.. :)
[06:04] <ahriman> crash1hd: NFS will do that, you could even use samba to do that, but doing it on / is kinda silly. NFS isn't horrible, could look into newer stuff, but if you do NFS, do user id squashing
[06:04] <codingenesis> Jordan_U: how is it possible... i can have my home partion totaly preserved??
[06:05] <ahriman> I need to switch IRC clients, gl
[06:05] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Sorry for the other link, missed the fact you had a powerpc, like I said, not a lot of experience with macs.
[06:05] <Flynn> Give it 11 mins for download.  Or maybe i should try downloading it with my phone.  Might be faster.
[06:06] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, don't sweat it u r awesome!
[06:07] <Jordan_U> codingenesis: When you re-install select manual partitioning, choose your old '/' partition as the new '/' partition and make sure that "Format" is *not* checked. It will use the old filesystem but remove all system directories (but not /home) before continuing with the install, and it will re-create any users it finds in /home in the new install.
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: try using the one from the repo, may be better
[06:08] <LULLING_HARD> ActionParsnip: One from the repo is 32 bit
[06:08] <LULLING_HARD> and requires that awfule hack nspluginwrapper
[06:08] <maxa_> studentz : its result gdm-binary1371 warning gdm display display lasted 0.380315,0.380330,0.392892,0.387198,0.380727,0.379813 seconds gdm-binary 1371 warning gdm Local Display Factory : Maximum Number Of X display, ialures reached : check X server log for error
[06:08] <LULLING_HARD> ActionParsnip: It also sometimes crashes when using HTML5 on YouTube
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: which browser(s) have you tried?
[06:10] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   what should I do?
[06:10] <LULLING_HARD> ActionParsnip: I have both FF and Chrome..It seems to happen more in FF.  I cant recall it happening in Chrome, but I havent used Chrome in a while so i cant be sure.
[06:10] <Flynn> 763kb/sec does that seem slow?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: worth a try, also does it happen to all users?
[06:10] <Flynn> For a cable modem
[06:10] <LULLING_HARD> ActionParsnip: Im the only user
[06:10] <KM0201> Flynn: that depends on your speed.. just cuz its a cable modem, doesn't mean you have a top teir speed account.
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: make another.....
[06:11] <KM0201> Flynn: but under most circumstances, i would say 800k down, is pretty average for a cable ISP.
[06:11] <mithran> hi, testong
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> LULLING_HARD: you can have thousands of users on your system
[06:11] <Flynn> Ok so, maybe just a little slow.
[06:12] <crash1hd> how do you delete a line in vi?
[06:12] <StealthPenguin> crash1hd: dd
[06:13] <crash1hd> StealthPenguin, thanks :) and how do you escape to do : stuff?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: I recommend running "vimtutor" to learn to use vi[m].
[06:13] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, thanks :)
[06:13] <StealthPenguin> crash1hd: Jordan_U is right, that's a great resource.
[06:13] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: You're welcome :)
[06:14] <qin> crash1hd: Esc to exit edit mode
[06:15] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201: The exact error is "Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
[06:16] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I don't understand update-rc.d.  advice appreciated
[06:16] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: hmm, does the install complete other wise, and if so, can you install grub from the live cd
[06:16] <Guy-Incognito> Also, booting a Live CD of 11.04 and running 'sudo fdisk -l' gives me "Unable to seek on /dev/sda".
[06:16] <qin> qin: OK, Need top 5 reasons why "No Bootable Media" has happend after update (kernel too) in 10.10, disk is mountable (manually) from live CD.
[06:17] <crash1hd> qin, thanks qin :)
[06:17] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, that tutorial is great :)
[06:17] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201:  The install does not complete.  It completely stalls when the bootloader fails to install.  The option to continue w/out installing bootloader is there, but the OK button does nothing.  I have to reboot at that point.
[06:18] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: hmm, that is weird.
[06:18] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: my uess is, your system is completely installed, because the bootloader is the last thing to get installed.
[06:18] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: i would try reinstalling grub, from the live cd.
[06:18] <KM0201> !grub | Guy-Incognito
[06:19] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: i would try following the "restore grub" instructions in that link above
[06:19] <Guy-Incognito> will do
[06:20] <crash1hd> ok I am confused it says that portmap by default will only listen to local and to comment out the -L or -i 127.0.0.1 which would be fine but all that is in my portmap file is OPTIONS=""
[06:21] <lake> oops
[06:23] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I don't understand update-rc.d.  advice appreciated
[06:25] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, I try to burn to dvd and I got an error:  "Ubuntu_POerPC_Lucid.fpbf" does not appear to have any contents and the disc will be empty. Continue?
[06:25] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I don't understand update-rc.d.  advice appreciated
[06:26] <GhostWolf> whats the command to double check if a software is not installed?
[06:27] <qin> cowslammer: update-rc.d apache2 remove
[06:28] <jimrew> ok here
[06:28] <GhostWolf> does anyone know what the command i need to type in terminal to see if a program is not on my pc? i want to make sure there is no extra files leftover before doing a reinstall
[06:28] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: .fpbf? Are you trying to burn the iso?
[06:28] <Flynn> yes.
[06:28] <jimrew> semitones, im here
[06:28] <semitones> jimrew, hey,
[06:28] <semitones> cool
[06:28] <jimrew> hey
[06:29] <jimrew> so can i install ubuntu and grub on an externel drive???
[06:29] <semitones> jimrew, this is what I found -- it ooks pretty straight forward https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installing on external or RAID hard disks
[06:29] <jimrew> and have it work?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> jimrew: Yes.
[06:29] <qin> GhostWolf: Before removal you clould run locate <program name> and compare to same after removing.
[06:29] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Ah, mac thing. That explains why I don't reconize it. Just a minute, allow me to think.
[06:29] <cowslammer> qin thx
[06:29] <semitones> jimrew, see if this describes what you want to do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How_to_dual-boot_Ubuntu_and_XP_after_installing_them_separately_on_two_HDs
[06:30] <crash1hd> why would in exports /home 192.168.2.101(rw) work but 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw) wont?
[06:30] <GhostWolf> qin too late i already removed it. since im having issues with it and trying to remove everything so i can get a new install of it
[06:30] <jimrew> ok looking at, just a sec :)
[06:30] <qin> GhostWolf: Then: locate <program name>
[06:30] <GhostWolf> qin ok thanks
[06:31] <qin> GhostWolf: Check dotfiles in ~, and /usr/share/
[06:31] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: Because a subnet is not an ip address...
[06:31] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: What are you trying to accomplish by adding a subnet mask?
[06:31] <GhostWolf> qin yea i wish there was easier way lol the program is amsn lol
[06:32] <jimrew> ok i really dont understand it very much :(
[06:32] <abhinav_singh> i am writing shell script..in which i am getting today's date with this TODAY=`date  "+%Y-%m-%d"`; ..how do i get tomorrow's date?
[06:33] <jimrew> its easyer to say in the installer instal bootloader to example buntu_drive
[06:33] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Hmm, I'm not sure why you're getting that.
[06:33] <qin> GhostWolf: locate amsn, focus on home folder.
[06:33] <Flynn> stealthPenguin, My instinc says just go for it.
[06:33] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, just following the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFS Server
[06:33] <Pokit> I just updated to ubuntu 11.04, and now i can't get emerald to replace my window borders..
[06:34] <GhostWolf> qin yea i already did that, i've done the home folder already but there are more files/folders when i did locate amsn on term
[06:34] <Pokit> In the CCSM window decorator plugin, i tried using /usr/bin/emerald, but that won't fix it
[06:34] <Sir_Gabriel> Hello again, my sound is not working at all. I clicked the icon in the panel and it says 'waiting for sound system to respond;
[06:34] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: Ahh, I was misunderstanding that parameter.
[06:34] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Yeah, you're burning it the same way you burned the other one? Did this error happen before?
[06:35] <jimrew> semitones: thank you for helping me the best you coud but that i cant understand sorrry but i will try sometthing
[06:35] <jimrew> else
[06:35] <jimrew> ok
[06:35] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: What is the ip address of the client?
[06:35] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, ok but I cant figure out why the specific ip works but the range doesnt?
[06:35] <quackaduck> Pokit: I don't think you can use emerald with unity
[06:35] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Nope never got an error.
[06:35] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, its 192.168.2.101
[06:35] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: That is not without the subnet you specified.
[06:35] <Pokit> quackaduck: i disabled unity.  i'm using classic
[06:36] <semitones> jimrew, the most important part about that page was this: if you run ubuntu from a USB or CD rom, with your USB drive plugged in, the installer will detect it
[06:36] <qin> GhostWolf: if any of them is in your home, and starts from .amsn - remove
[06:36] <ubuntu> I'm gonna need some help at your next available convienience. . .
[06:36] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, how come?
[06:36] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 is everything
[06:36] <GhostWolf> qin i don't see any in the home folder i already removed .asmn from home folder
[06:36] <semitones> jimrew, and when the chance comes, you can tell it to install to the external drive. You can even log on to irc while you're doing it and make sure you're choosing the right options :)
[06:36] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, maybe I could just copy all the files and folders to the disk instead.
[06:37] <quackaduck> Pokit: try reinstalling compiz? I got it to work that way
[06:37] <qin> GhostWolf: Then you should be fine. Also in apt-get there is --purge option.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: No, it's 192.168.0.1 through 192.168.0.255.
[06:37] <Pokit> quackaduck: alright. i'll give it a try
[06:37] <GhostWolf> qin yea i tried that it tells me to do autoremove on some files which i did as well
[06:38] <panfist> is it possible to get a list of which packages were explicitly selected for installation
[06:38] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, really oh so I need 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
[06:38] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: Yes.
[06:38] <Arghetlam> Erm. . .help?
[06:38] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[06:39] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, see I was under the impression that the 255 was the end of the range not limited to the start part as in 0.0.0.0/255.255.255.255 would cover all ip addressess
[06:39] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: I'm not sure if that will work, but you can try.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> crash1hd: You could also specify 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 but I recommend against that.
[06:39] <qin> GhostWolf: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install -f
[06:39] <GhostWolf> qin what does the install -f do?
[06:39] <Arghetlam> I'm having a problem with an encrypted home folder.
[06:39] <crash1hd> Jordan_U, right :)
[06:40] <qin> GhostWolf: fix missing
[06:40] <GhostWolf> qin ok do i need to put amsn after -f?
[06:41] <qin> GhostWolf: No, this is only to keep apt "happy"
[06:41] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, The other way just left me with a blank disc I have to throw away.  So, I'm trying to copy it now.
[06:41] <KM0201> Arghetlam: whast wrong?
[06:41] <GhostWolf> qin ok, it seems its fully removed thanks for the help, im going to try to re-install it hopefully i got all the files and can get a fresh install, and won't close when i load it afterwards
[06:42] <KM0201> Arghetlam: ah, i've never dealt w/ the encrypted folders, you're on your own w/ that one
[06:42] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: I don't think burning just the files from it will give you a bootable CD though.
[06:42] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, y not?
[06:42] <qin> GhostWolf: Do you really need amsn (pidgin hanle this stuff well too)?
[06:43] <Guest33856> guys need some help with my printer, i can't print, but it was installed automatically
[06:43] <Arghetlam> Anyone have any experience with encrypted folders?
[06:43] <GhostWolf> qin i don't know how to use pidgin i tried running it but can't see anything on how to check who is online and what not
[06:43] <qin> OK, Need top 5 reasons (clues) why "No Bootable Media" has happend after update (kernel too) in 10.10, disk is mountable (manually) from live CD.
[06:43] <kalivos> anyone online can help me with a usb boot key creation issue?
[06:44] <Arghetlam> kalivos: I may be able to give you a hand. What's the issue?
[06:44] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Gut feeling right now, but I'm trying to look for a more definitive answer than that.
[06:44] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Worth a shot though I guess if you have the spare discs.
[06:44] <bullgard4> What does effect doing »dpkg-reconfigure«? 'man dpkg-recongigure': "DESCRIPTION: "dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures packages after they have already been installed." What will happen when "reconfiguring"?
[06:44] <kalivos> friend of mine gave me a 4gig thumb drive, brand new, linux refuses to to install my iso to it insisting that there is not enough free space
[06:45] <Arghetlam> kalivos: Have you formatted the disk yet?
[06:46] <qin> bullgard4: It helps you to change settings in oranised way.
[06:46] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Maybe making a flashdrive would work, but I don't know if my Mac is bootable from a flash drive.
[06:46] <kalivos> i've tried formatting and re-partitioning the thumb drive via linux, also formatted and re-partitioned via windows when that failed
[06:46] <GhostWolf> qin if i knew how to use pidgin i'd use it but i can't and amsn is really nice even tho it sucks with using my webcam
[06:46] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: That's a possiblity, though I'm not sure if it's bootable on your hardware either.
[06:47] <XDasl> Is somebody going to finish the video functionality of the Linux Skype client before Microsoft buys it?
[06:47] <qin> GhostWolf: Well, last time I used pidgin, it was 9.04, and only for a sake of some plugins.
[06:47] <kalivos> when i attempted the format/partitioning via windows it insisted that the drive was write-protected, after going into some prefrences i managed to get around that, but still wouldnt be accepted as valid media by linux
[06:47] <bullgard4> qin: Can you elaborate.
[06:48] <GhostWolf> qin ah ok well i don't know how to use it i only see it for my yahoo but don't know how to add my msn info
[06:48] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Just found an article on booting from flashdrive on powerpc's reading...
[06:48] <semitones> I know I saw mac-specific natty disk images somewhere... does anyone know anything about that? If they're still necessary for mac installs
[06:48] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Holding c still didn't work neither does holding option.
[06:48] <Arghetlam> Is anyone online familiar with encrypted folders?
[06:49] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: That was with the DVD burned from the files in the iso?
[06:49] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, Yes.
[06:49] <snub> quick Q - someone has messed with my ubuntu box and somehow managed to make all forms of menu disappear (not even sure what the appropriate terms are.. task bar / system tray thing at the top, and the thing at the bottom? all i have is a blank desktop with a few icons on it and nothing else.. anyone able to point me in the right direction for un-disappearing them?
[06:50] <GhostWolf> qin do you know how to shut down a program if its in hiding in the system tab but not showing there?
[06:50] <XDasl> Arghetlam: Open a console and type: man tar and man gpg
[06:50] <quackaduck> snub: right click on your panel and click add to panel
[06:50] <rob_p> bullgard4: When you first install a package, sometimes you will be asked some configuration questions before the install process completes.  Using the dpkg-reconfigure command, you will be presented with those configuration questions again for the package specified.
[06:50] <qin> GhostWolf: System tab?
[06:50] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Hmm, do you have access to another machine that you could test the DVD with, preferably one with a BIOS? Just a thought to verify if the disc works, or if it's difficulty booting on that machine.
[06:51] <quackaduck> GhostWolf: use the task manager
[06:51] <GhostWolf> qin yes the new system tab or whatever it is that is on the 11.04
[06:51] <GhostWolf> quackaduck it doesn't show in task manager
[06:51] <semitones> jimrew, sorry I was wrong about a separate .iso for mac -- that was combined with the main .iso. You can use the regular 64 bit one.
[06:51] <snub> quackaduck : what do you mean by panel?
[06:51] <rob_p> bullgard4: It's pretty self-explanitory.  It reconfigures a package's config settings.
[06:51] <snub> i literally have only the desktop image with a few files sitting on it
[06:51] <quackaduck> snub: by panel, I meant the bar at the top and bottom of your screen that used to hold your menus, system tray icons, date and time, etc.
[06:52] <snub> as far as i can tell i have zero panels
[06:52] <snub> yes
[06:52] <snub> they aren't there
[06:52] <snub> ie, they don't exist
[06:52] <snub> at all
[06:52] <FloodBot1> snub: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:52] <quackaduck> oh
[06:52] <bullgard4> rob_p: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:52] <rob_p> bullgard4: welcome :)
[06:52] <GhostWolf> quackaduck, or maybe im thinking of something else, where is the task manager at in 11.04?
[06:52] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, No my only other machine is a net-book, no drives besides USB
[06:52] <Arghetlam> XDasl: Unfortunately, nothing in the manuals helps me
[06:52] <snub> dohne a bit of googling but yeah, most replies say click on the panel, which is.. well, not there, which makes that hard.
[06:52] <qin> GhostWolf: pgrep quackaduck (or use htop), kill given pid (number)
[06:53] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, what does that article say?
[06:53] <quackaduck> snub: start gnome-panel from terminal
[06:53] <maxa_> usr13 : r u there
[06:53] <snub> how do i open terminal? can i do that via a keyboard shortcut?
[06:54] <GhostWolf> qin well its for amsn thats the problem i get when it is set to minimize to system tray as it used to do in 10.10 it doesn't show up in the one for 11.04 which is the side panel
[06:54] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: A lot of stuff I don't understand about booting a mac. I just PM'd it to you for your reading pleasure.
[06:54] <GhostWolf> and i don't know where the task manager is on ubuntu or on 11.04
[06:54] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Curious, what kind of computer is it?
[06:54] <quackaduck> snub: try alt+f2
[06:54] <quackaduck> snub: then just type gnome-panel
[06:55] <Arghetlam> Is anyone familiar with "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"?
[06:55] <tr3x> Hey guys, I would like to know how to get deluge back in the system tray.. I am using 11.04
[06:55] <Zelozelos> got cube working in 11.04 w the new desktop stuff working as well along with docky...how i managed 2 do it ill never know..how can i save the configs the way they are so i can see what other options are available?
[06:56] <qin> GhostWolf: Natty is a bit beyond me.
[06:56] <GhostWolf> quackaduck, do you know where the task mananger is on 11.04? i only know of system monitor and it has no taks manager on that
[06:56] <snub> and if alt-f2 doesn't bring up anything?
[06:56] <GhostWolf> qin same here, i just upgraded it, and its a bit wacky for me but can't do nothing at this point
[06:56] <kalivos> ghost, system monitor has a task manager
[06:56] <quackaduck> GhostWolf: You can use system monitor to kill processes
[06:57] <GhostWolf> quackaduck, yes but amsn doesn't show there
[06:57] <Zelozelos> oh nevermind...guess all i need to do is export the compiz profile, the rest is simp
[06:57] <greg> anyone know how to get desktop effects working in 11.04?
[06:57] <Flynn> StealthPenguin, PowerMac G5
[06:57] <GhostWolf> and i know its still on cause when i try to load amsn another window pops up and i can't use my name
[06:58] <Zelozelos> greg which effects compiz ?
[06:58] <Arghetlam> Is anyone familiar with "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"?
[06:59] <greg> compiz is installed and configured but not working. no option to enable desktop effects
[06:59] <kalivos> anyone else able to help me with my thumb drive/boot key issue?
[06:59] <Zelozelos> greg thats what i just finished figuring out, if u want ill give u a copy of my config export from compiz...somehow
[07:00] <StealthPenguin> Flynn: Hmm. I don't know how else to help, I hope that article helps. I'm actually off to bed for the night. Best of luck getting it dual booted. Wish I could have helped more.
[07:00] <Flynn> SteathPenguin, Hey, thanx for atleast trying.  G'night.
[07:01] <avinashhm> Hi , i am not getting the grub screen since i don't dual operating system .. but i would like to edit the args during boot .. Can i edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and change 'linux vmlinuz .... ' directly .. is this the same line it gives an option when we press 'e' in grub ..any help pls
[07:01] <bullgard4> !compiz | greg
[07:01] <greg> Zelozelos, i dont think the problem is with compiz... i have no option to enable desktop effects
[07:01] <sparrW> My dock is stuck open. How can I make it autohide like it should? I can't access the bits of window that are behind it.
[07:02] <Zelozelos> greg are you talking about desktop cube or expo n stuff like that?
[07:02] <mithran> does anyone know a good guide for dogcatcher?
[07:02] <mithran> podcatcher
[07:03] <greg> Zelozelos, Yes, compiz is installed setup and configured. I have no option to enable desktop effects
[07:04] <rhizmoe> hmm, reboot didn't restore my apps. that's why i rebooted!
[07:04] <Zelozelos> greg not sure man sorry
[07:04] <Arghetlam> Has anyone online had problems with their 11.04 install going bad?
[07:05] <lcawte> Anyone see what might be causing boot to stall at the splash screen? http://paste.ubuntu.com/605574/
[07:05] <jbicha> Arghetlam: please be more specific
[07:05] <Guy-Incognito> KM0201: I think I tracked down the issue.  It's an issue w/ my MBR due to FlexNet...stupid Adobe...  Thanks for the help.
[07:06] <kalivos> Arghetlam, my install was fine but ever since upgrading from 10.xx i cant seem to get the ISO installed to my friend's thumb drive
[07:06] <KM0201> Guy-Incognito: no prob... good luck w/ it...
[07:06] <kontagious> my netbook is lagging, how do i switch to unity 2d
[07:06] <Arghetlam> jbicha: My install started hanging at the splash screen. I can boot into my OS now, but Nautilus isn't working right, and I can't mount my home/arghetlam folder
[07:06] <greg> Zelozelos, In Ubuntu 10.10, r/c desktop, change desktop background, 4th tab was "desktop effects". now missing
[07:06] <manlymatt83> Question: is there any reason to keep the default directories in $HOME, such as Documents, Pictures, etc.?  Or can I make my own?
[07:06] <lcawte> Anyone see what might be causing boot to stall at the splash screen? http://paste.ubuntu.com/605574/
[07:07] <manlymatt83> Does Unity tie directly into those directories or anything?
[07:07] <jbicha> Arghetlam: I can't provide a lot of help, but...are you using any PPAs?
[07:07] <Arghetlam> kalivos: It's entirely possible that Linux just doesn't like the thumb drive. My suggestion would be to use another utility  in windows to write the ISO to the thumb drive. That's what I did, anyway.
[07:07] <kontagious> my netbook is lagging, how do i switch to unity 2d
[07:07] <rhizmoe> manlymatt83: convention is to keep them in home
[07:07] <Arghetlam> jbicha: PPA?
[07:07] <jbicha> manlymatt83: you don't have to keep those names, but they are rather useful
[07:08] <Zelozelos> greg oh know i c, those were released for 9.something if i remember right they were probably disabled so compiz worked better or just havent been included yet
[07:08] <jbicha> Arghetlam: any extra software or repositories you found on the web
[07:08] <lcawte> Anyone see what might be causing boot to stall at the splash screen? http://paste.ubuntu.com/605574/ | Syslog tells me to check Xorg log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/605576/
[07:08] <manlymatt83> jbicha: even if I keep them, can I remove examples.desktop?
[07:08] <sathis> whats the link i can download linuc os
[07:08] <snub> so, anyone able to tell me how i might bring up any kind of system panel when i have literally none, and alt-f2 does not bring up any kind of command dialogue?
[07:08] <jbicha> manlymatt83: sure, that's just a link to a system folder that stores that content
[07:08] <manlymatt83> rhizmoe: I have a lot of stuff other than media, so tend to like putting "Documents" and "Pictures" in a folder called "Media"
[07:09] <Zelozelos> greg i think compiz has all the same effects for windows n stuff
[07:09] <Arghetlam> jbicha: I don't have any extra PPA's, sadly.
[07:09] <cowslammer> qin, i tried the update-rc.d command to remove the links to autostart apache2 on boot, but looking through the /etc/rcN.d dirs I find the links are still in place to autostart apache2
[07:09] <manlymatt83> jbicha: OK.  So Unity/Ubuntu won't get mad at me if I remove those directories (Except Desktop of course) and design my own structure?
[07:09] <rhizmoe> manlymatt83: oh, still in a subdirectory of $HOME? yeah, go nuts
[07:09]  * sathis any one can help me web site for differrnt linux OS download
[07:09] <lcawte> Nobody? :S
[07:09] <greg> Zelozelos, sure does, if i could just enable desktop effects....
[07:10] <manlymatt83> rhizmoe: Yeah, $HOME/Media/Documents instead of $HOME/Documents
[07:10] <rhizmoe> manlymatt83: you might have to preference your webbrowser or whatever to look at the correct d/l dirs and such, but that should be it
[07:10] <alphamale> i need some helping creating a grub4dos menu entry for a new hdd install of 11.01
[07:10]  * sathis any one can help me web site for differrnt linux OS download
[07:10] <keithtoo> hello all. I have a question. I recently updated my ubuntu studio system with the beta and then the release version of 11.04. Apparently that broke all the 3d apps like blender and wings3d. Is it possible to reload the system from the iso without repartitioning/reformatting the drive?
[07:10] <jbicha> manlymatt83: it's Linux, you can do whatever you want, but some stuff uses those folders for default
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> sathis: how do you mean?
[07:10] <Zelozelos> greg seems thats why im so confused, mine are working, windows are zooming etc
[07:11] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I tried update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2 and the links to the startup script are still in place.  advice appreciated
[07:11] <manlymatt83> jbicha: Well I know I can move them physically, just wanted to make sure the GUI itself didn't rely on things being in certain places :)
[07:11] <sathis> ActionParsnip: that was some web site which shows all kind of linux operating system for download with current status
[07:11] <jbicha> keithtoo: what do you mean "broke", and have you tried classic desktop
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> keithtoo: I've heard of people using custom partitioning but not formatting the partition. Effectively installing ubuntu over ubuntu
[07:11] <qin> lcawte: Nvidia driver
[07:11] <jbicha> manlymatt83: no, it shouldn't affect the gui except for the Desktop folder, but things like Firefox save to ~/Downloads by default
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> sathis: distrowatch
[07:12] <sathis> ActionParsnip:  thanks
[07:12] <lcawte> qin: so, whats the problem and how do I fix it?
[07:12] <greg> Zelozelos, Are you using 11.04 "Natty?"
[07:12] <manlymatt83> jbicha: Got it.  Thanks.
[07:12] <Zelozelos> greg yup
[07:12] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I tried update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2 and the links to the startup script are still in place.  advice appreciated
[07:13] <qin> lcawte: Alt-Ctrl-F1 (Do you get to tty?)
[07:13] <keithtoo> jbicha: 'Broke' as in crashes with segment violations due to an Nvidia setup change (I think). I am in classic mode now and can't even run glxgears or glxinfo
[07:13] <lcawte> qin: I'm in Live CD atm... should I try it now?
[07:13] <Zelozelos> greg i finally found a page on compiz and unity, it says to do some things in a particular order, did you log out/restart after changing compiz?
[07:13] <greg> Zelozelos, are you using "Unity" or Gnome or KDE?
[07:13] <alphamale> anyone know about grub4dos and ubuntu
[07:13] <qin> lcawte: Nope, get more info...
[07:14] <lcawte> qin: such as?
[07:14] <Zelozelos> greg im using unity w cube instead of wall
[07:15] <Arghetlam> Okay, another question - has anyone has 11.04 crash, and had issues mounting "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"?
[07:15] <Jordan_U> alphamale: root (hdX,Y)\n kernel /boot/grub/core.img
[07:15] <alphamale> i did that jordan
[07:16] <Jordan_U> alphamale: And?
[07:16] <alphamale> it boots part way then stops
[07:16] <Jordan_U> alphamale: What output do you see?
[07:16] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried bum and apache isn't listed.   I tried update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2 and the links to the startup script are still in place.  advice appreciated
[07:16] <greg> Zelozelos, I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 then uninstalled that disgusting unity thing and went back to gnome!
[07:16] <alphamale> it is  trying to mount sys on /root/sys and failed
[07:16] <alphamale> the output is in the grub shell how can i get that into a file to post
[07:16] <rhizmoe> how do i turn off cpu scaling in 10.10?
[07:16] <snub> so, anyone able to tell me how i might bring up any kind of system panel when i have literally none, and alt-f2 does not bring up any kind of command dialogue so i can start a terminal or anything like that?
[07:16] <Jordan_U> alphamale: Did you see the grub2 menu?
[07:17] <alphamale> im using grub4dos
[07:17] <rhizmoe> snub: pick a different boot menu option
[07:17] <lcawte> Anyone see what might be causing boot to stall at the splash screen? http://paste.ubuntu.com/605574/ | Syslog tells me to check Xorg log... http://paste.ubuntu.com/605576/
[07:17] <Jordan_U> alphamale: The commands I just gave you are for loading grub2 from grub4dos. Are you sure that you have tried that already?
[07:17] <alphamale> i get the menu, select my entry, it starts to boot, i get about two pages of output on screen then it hangs in the shell
[07:17] <alphamale> wait let me look again
[07:17] <qin> lcawte: lspci, nvidia-detector, jockey-text.
[07:17] <rhizmoe> let me just say that the internet at large is pretty outdated on the cpu scaling issue
[07:18] <alphamale> no, osrry
[07:18] <alphamale> i didnt do that
[07:18] <alphamale>  one sec
[07:18] <Zelozelos> greg unity was a big part of the reason why 11.04 was made thats like its main new feature, hang in there a while theyll get it all working right
[07:18] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried 'update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2' and the scripts for startup are still in place.  advice appreciated.  advice appreciated
[07:19] <kuru> so I have natty installed, checked for Additional Drivers.. tells me I have this NVIDIA accelerated driver activated but not currently in use
[07:19] <kuru> how do I make it in use?
[07:19] <alphamale> so that command is all i need in my menu.lst?
[07:19] <snub> rhizmoe : ok, so what if i was to tell you i don't get a grub menu at boot and can't select any other boot options?
[07:19] <alphamale> and it will start loading the grub loader?
[07:19] <lcawte> qin: nvidia controller says none, however in the past I've been fine using the nvidia chipset and drivers for that... lspci says:
[07:19] <usalabs> anyone know how to change runlevel using cli? I am running Ubuntu 11.04 server, I want to change it to runlevel 3
[07:20] <lcawte> qin: http://pastebin.com/aUPprQsM
[07:20] <rhizmoe> snub: well it sounds like it's not really booting at all
[07:20] <Jordan_U> alphamale: You need to do the standard "title Some Title Here\n root (hdX,Y)\n kernel /boot/grub/core.img" replacing "Some Title Here" and "(hdX,Y)" with apropriate values.
[07:21] <Jordan_U> alphamale: ... And replacing '\n' with a newline.
[07:21] <Arghetlam> Has anyone had 11.04 crash, and had issues mounting "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"?
[07:21] <alphamale> yes i have the title already
[07:21] <qin> lcawte: It may have dropped from support, use jockey-text to see avail drivers, otherwise you would need to install nouveau
[07:21] <snub> rhizmoe : it is - it gets to the ubuntu login screen, i log in, it loads the normal desktop background and the few files that are normally on it, and nothing else. no panels. no menus. nothing.
[07:21] <alphamale> got it
[07:22] <Jordan_U> snub: Hold shift to see the grub menu.
[07:22] <alphamale> thanks a million
[07:22] <alphamale> going to check it now.
[07:22] <rhizmoe> snub: if you can login, that's past the boot menu
[07:22] <Jordan_U> alphamale: You're welcome.
[07:22] <alphamale> viva la open source
[07:22] <snub> indeed
[07:22] <rhizmoe> snub: your window manager is possibly broken
[07:22] <lcawte> qin: what package is that?
[07:22] <snub> it would seem that way..
[07:23] <rhizmoe> when i had desktop weirdness, i reinstalled gnome-desktop. might not be the same if you're all fancy.
[07:23] <kuru> Anyone?
[07:23] <snub> well, the problem is i can't.. run.. anything. i'm not exactly a ubuntu power user here, but if alt-f2 doesn't bring up any kind of command execution dialogue, and i have no menus
[07:23] <snub> how the heck do i do anything?
[07:23] <qin> lcawte: That is Additional Hardware real name: jockey-gtk - gui, jockey-text - cli.
[07:24] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried 'update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2' and the scripts for startup are still in place.  advice appreciated.
[07:24] <lcawte> qin: its not on there, and I can't get that far to install it because jockey-text doesn't want to play ball
[07:24] <qin> lcawte: Is it Natty?
[07:24] <usalabs> alt-f1....f6 should bring up a text consoles on tty1-6 respectively
[07:24] <lcawte> qin: yeah
[07:25] <qin> lcawte: Yes, read man jockey-text
[07:25] <Arghetlam> How do I fix the issue: "Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"?
[07:26] <rhizmoe> snub: try alt-f1
[07:26] <korrkn> snub: ctrl-alt-f1
[07:26] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried 'update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2' and the scripts for startup are still in place.  advice appreciated.
[07:27] <Arghetlam> How do I fix the issue: "Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"?
[07:28] <snub> aaah, now i might actually be able to get something done
[07:28] <snub> thanks :o)
[07:28] <snub> ctrl-alt-f1 at least drops me to a normal cli
[07:28] <manlymatt83> hmmmm, what is $HOME/Templates?
[07:29] <kalivos> yay, linux finally started installing the ISO to my boot key
[07:29] <rcconf> hello
[07:29] <kalivos> hi
[07:30] <rcconf> do you know why this is not in the repositories? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/newspost/
[07:30] <Arghetlam> How do I fix the issue: "Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"?
[07:30] <Mrokii> hello. Ubuntu seems to always (or at least very often) forget some of the keyboard-settings after a while (Possibly after a logout only I am not sure). Specifically concerning the numeric keypad (I can't type numbers then anymore). The strange this is: The options in the pref-window are *still* activated, only the don't work anymore. Any ideas?
[07:31] <kalivos> is your numberlock key lit?
[07:31] <kalivos> Mrokii?
[07:31] <Mrokii> no
[07:31] <kalivos> that might be why
[07:32] <kalivos> let me know if togling numlock fixes that
[07:32] <Mrokii> But shouldn't Ubuntu do that automatically? After all, I *can* type numbers if I use certain options on the config-editor.
[07:32] <kalivos> windows does it automatically
[07:33] <kalivos> its off by default in linux]
[07:33] <Mrokii> It seems to work, indeed.
[07:33] <rcconf> Ubuntu != Windblowz
[07:33] <Arghetlam> How do I fix the issue: "Encrypted private directory is not setup properly"?
[07:33] <rcconf> Arghetlam: what are you trying to do
[07:33] <cowslammer> i have installed LAMP and I need for apache not to launch on reboot.  I tried 'update-rc.d remove -f apacahe2' and the scripts for startup are still in place.  advice appreciated.
[07:33] <kalivos> Arghetlam, turn off encryption on your private directory?
[07:34] <Mrokii> kalivos: Is there a way to let Ubuntu do that automatically after each start?
[07:34] <Arghetlam> Kalivos: If I knew how to do that, I would. It's on my home directory and is being very. . .difficult.
[07:34] <Antonis> I have connected a device to my computer how can i check if it's recognized?
[07:34] <Arghetlam> rcconf: I'm trying to get into my now encrypted home directory to back up some files.
[07:34] <rcconf> Antonis: go to places
[07:34] <kalivos> Mrokii, im assuming that once you turn it on ubuntu "remembers" that you enabled it when you restart
[07:35] <kalivos> Antonis, define device
[07:35] <Antonis> rcconf, it's not a storage device
[07:35] <rcconf> Antonis: sudo lsusb?
[07:35] <rcconf> lshw and stuff
[07:35] <Mrokii> nope, it doesn't. As I said before, it often forgets the setting. The numbers work again if I change one or two options in the keyboard-preferences, but that's just annoying.
[07:35] <Antonis> it's a bloogsugar meter for my mother.. I have software for windows but I only use linux so I am trying to get it working..
[07:36] <kalivos> Antonis, something that important just use it the way it's meant to be used
[07:37] <Zelozelos> greg would you like to try my compiz settings? its easy 2 do and worth the shot
[07:37] <Antonis> kalivos, I am using it properly on a windows machine I just want to try to make it work on linux that's all =)
[07:37] <kalivos> i see
[07:37] <kalivos> what is it using to connect
[07:38] <kalivos> ie: USB, bluetooth, etc
[07:38] <kalivos> Mrokii, i havent forgotten about you
[07:39] <Mrokii> kalivos: thank you
[07:39] <Mrokii> kalivos: I am currently looking on google for a solution for the numlock-key
[07:40] <crash1hd> It seems that I am having an issue with the nfs I can connect fine but when I goto a folder on the nfs mount that is mounted to another drive i am unable to see its contents?
[07:40] <needhelprecoveri> i cannot seem to mount my filesystem previous reccomendations led me to this: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1 mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[07:40] <crash1hd> this is my exports file / 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)
[07:40] <eruditehermit> hi, is the encrypted home option able to hibernate now?
[07:40] <crash1hd> temporary test with / just a note
[07:41] <Arghetlam> rcconf: Find anything?
[07:42] <fooztha> Anyone know if its possible to manage hp ilo2 from ubuntu?
[07:42] <keithtoo> I recently updated my system with the beta and then the release version of 11.04. Apparently that broke all the 3d apps like blender and wings3d and Unity is a no-show. Is it possible to reload the system from the iso without repartitioning/reformatting the drive? Anyone know?
[07:42] <kalivos> Mrokii,  what is your "Keyboard model" set to?
[07:43] <Mrokii> kalivos: Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[07:43] <needhelprecoveri> how can i figure out why the filesystem is in use?
[07:43] <kalivos> Mrokii, im guessing layout is USA?
[07:43] <Mrokii> no German.
[07:44] <Mrokii> no, German.
[07:44] <kalivos> lol, id get lost on a german keyboard
[07:44] <Mrokii> why?
[07:44] <Mrokii> I have found this and will try it out I guess: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[07:44] <kalivos> because i dont speak german :D
[07:45] <Mrokii> heh
[07:45] <kalivos> i saw that check box but didnt think that would affect numlock
[07:45] <bin_bash> skype keeps disconnecting and then randomly connecting for no reason on xubuntu 11.04 what;s going on
[07:45] <kalivos> simple, skype is crap
[07:45] <kalivos> :P
[07:45] <bin_bash> THAT'S SO FUCKING HELPFUL
[07:46] <kalivos> sorry, i avoid skype like the plague
[07:46] <bin_bash> Yeah, well I don't have that luxury
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: any clues in dmesg. Keep the language family friendly please
[07:46] <needhelprecoveri>  ActionParsnip will you help me some more?
[07:46] <ward1234> make sure u have numlock on in bios??? sometimes that value can get goofy in os swapping/auto/on/off on boot
[07:46] <kalivos> you have my condolences
[07:46] <bin_bash> I apologize
[07:46] <ward1234> especially award bios
[07:46] <needhelprecoveri> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sda1 mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010) /dev/sda1 is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[07:47] <Mrokii> kalivos: Me neither, but it's worth a try. Thanks for your help, kalivos. At least I know now how to enable it manually. I never thought about the numlock-key because I only ever used the settings, heh.
[07:47] <qin> cowslammer: Maybe: sudo update-rc.d apache disable ?
[07:47] <crash1hd> OK can anyone explain what no_root_squash does in nfs?
[07:47] <bin_bash> However, I recgonize that the software is subpar, and when dealing with this on a constnat basis, reminding me of such is largely unhelpful
[07:47] <kalivos> Mrokii, did you see ward1234 's comment?
[07:47] <Mrokii> no.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> needhelprecoveri: i don't think so. All i can recommend is foremost to recover data you don't have on backup
[07:47] <ward1234> check ur bios Mrokki
[07:48] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: what am I looking for in dmesg
[07:48] <Mrokii> ward1234: What should I check there?
[07:48] <natrixnatrix89> Has anyone had success installing minecraft on ubuntu?
[07:48] <ward1234> numlock on/off/auto make sure u have it on "on"
[07:48] <kalivos> Mrokii, look around in your bios for a numlock option that can be toggled
[07:48] <needhelprecoveri> ActionParsnip: thats what i am trying to do but theres no way to mount the filesystem to do the recovery
[07:49] <Mrokii> ward1234, kalivos: Okay, good idea. I will. Thanks again.
[07:49] <kalivos> pretty sure my bios has no control over that
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: read the last few lines. Anything about disconnection as that is your issue..
[07:49] <ward1234> yw g/l
[07:49] <Mrokii> thanks
[07:49] <needhelprecoveri> crap!
[07:49] <bin_bash> [   41.091062] type=1400 audit(1304973653.303:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" name="/usr/sbin/tcpdump" pid=835 comm="apparmor_parser"
[07:49] <bin_bash> [   41.091401] type=1400 audit(1304973653.303:11): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" name="/usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script" pid=831 comm="apparmor_parser"
[07:49] <FloodBot1> bin_bash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <kalivos> natrixnatrix89, minecraft doesnt "install" on ubuntu
[07:50] <natrixnatrix89> right
[07:50] <natrixnatrix89> but I can't run it anyway
[07:50] <kalivos> sec, i'll tell you how i did it, it's easy
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> needhelprecoveri: you use foremost on unmounted partitions. Why do you not have a good backup?
[07:51] <sveinse> Where is the icons/launchers for the top launcher in ubuntu classic (natty) stored?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: can you run skype in some verbose mode from terminal. The output may help
[07:52] <bin_bash> skype -v?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: does it happen for all ubuntu users on the system?
[07:53] <kalivos> natrixnatrix89, my command to run it is "java -jar minecraft.jar"
[07:53] <ward1234> ActionParsnip yes but i dont remember how ... i think its a plug in or another add on prog in synaptic
[07:53] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I'm the only user
[07:53] <natrixnatrix89> I see..
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: see if -v works, or if there is a man page
[07:53] <sveinse> I have created a launcher which starts "firefox -chat" and I also have "firefox" as another launcher. However when I reboot gnome mixes these two icons and apps. E.g. both sets the same icon and sets the same command  "firefox" or "firefox -chat"
[07:53] <natrixnatrix89> kalivos: I just found web page wom..
[07:53] <natrixnatrix89> kalivos: is it better?
[07:53] <natrixnatrix89> worldofminecraft.com
[07:54] <kalivos> it runs nice and smooth the way i do it
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: not thought to make a new user to test...
[07:54] <kalivos> eww
[07:54] <bin_bash> yeah i tested earlier
[07:54] <bin_bash> but was on a diferent connection
[07:54] <bin_bash> brb
[07:54] <kalivos> http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
[07:54] <Arghetlam> Ack, I still can't mount that stupid folder! Is all that data just gone?
[07:55] <maj-> anyone have any idea why my software center nor ubuntu tweak do not run anymore? i click and get a busy pointer then nothing
[07:55] <sroy2> is there an offtopic channel here?
[07:55] <maj-> and I have a red circle with a white bar in it next to my wifi signal icon on my launchbar
[07:55] <kalivos> grab the jar file for linux straight from the source natrixnatrix89
[07:55] <natrixnatrix89> ok. thanks
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> maj-: ubuntu tweak isn't supported here
[07:55] <kalivos> are you running ubuntu 11.04?
[07:56] <maj-> okay what about the software center
[07:56] <maj-> why wont that load
[07:56] <natrixnatrix89> ok lets try now
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> maj-: if you run: gksudo software-center    does it run?
[07:56] <Guest78462> how can one move the unity launcher i mean i know there isn't an option but can't you edit some config file to do it?
[07:56] <natrixnatrix89> kalivos: I'm on ubuntu 10.04
[07:56] <maj-> ActionParsnip: no
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> maj-: is there any output in the terminal?
[07:57] <Mrokii> Guest78462: I think ccsm can do it.
[07:57] <maj-> ActionParsnip: no
[07:57] <kalivos> natrixnatrix89, not sure how that will affect running minecraft then, im using 11.04 and the default java that came with it
[07:58] <Guest78462> it can't, i tried :(
[07:58] <natrixnatrix89> so. I was able to launch it. hope it works.. thanks
[07:58] <Mrokii> Guest78462: it has a Unity-plugin
[07:58] <kalivos> no prob natrixnatrix89
[07:58] <natrixnatrix89> kalivos: btw where did you find that code to run it?
[07:58] <Guest33856> guys need some help with my printer, i can't print, but it was installed automatically
[07:58] <kalivos> opened a terminal, typed java, and just kept screwin around
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest78462: sure if you want to recompile it and work out where the position is stored. Its only software after all
[07:59] <Mrokii> Guest78462: Don't you have that plugin or does it not work? I see a setting for "reveal mode" which seems to be exactly for repositioning Unity (but I never tried it because I don't use Unity).
[07:59] <maj-> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Maj: ok try: sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center     may help
[08:00] <Guest78462> well i did set the revel mode to bottom but the launcher just pops up from the left edge :(
[08:00] <maj-> ActionParsnip: im removing ubuntu tweak via package manager
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> Maj-: I'm on my phone so it takes a while to type
[08:01] <Mrokii> Guest78462: I see. That's bad :/
[08:01] <preds> how can I get an osx-like "expose" feature for gnome 11.04?
[08:01] <natrixnatrix89> kalivos: but you can't run minecraft in offline mode, if you haven't bought the game?
[08:01] <Guest78462> ah never mind thanks anyways guys :)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest33856: what make & model
[08:01] <nutsfornatty> how to make chrome the default browser? selecting it as default links from other apps still open in firefox!
[08:02] <Mrokii> preds: via ccsm
[08:02] <kalivos> natrixnatrix89, correct, the client uses your login information to download the rest of the files it needs to run
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Preds: in ccsm look at the scale plugin (i believe)
[08:02] <Guest33856> ActionParsnip: HP Deskjet D2660
[08:03] <preds> thanks Mr_NoName , ActionParsnip
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest33856: grab the latest hplip and install it. Run the file in terminal without sudo. May help
[08:03] <GhostWolf> ok question, i don't know if its my java or what, but i play farmville on facebook and was able to go on it earlier on 11.04, now it won't work right, im using 64bit, is there a command to update it through term?
[08:04] <Guest33856> ActionParsnip: tnx
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> GhostWolf: farmville uses flash
[08:05] <Mrokii> preds: You can also use the "expo"-module, if you want to see all your available desktop-screens, whatever the correct name is.
[08:05] <Drullthar> And farmville has no interest
[08:05] <GhostWolf> ActionParsnip, i know flash/java same to me, is there a way to update it i think that is the problem im having
[08:06] <dzup> :)
[08:06] <preds> cheers Mrokii, I'm hunting for the expose one now - Saw expo already :)
[08:06] <kalivos> GhostWolf, have you opened your package updater?
[08:06] <Mrokii> preds: There is also a setting for showing the desktop, but I always forget where it is (though I have activated it).
[08:06] <GhostWolf> kalivos, i just upgraded to 11.04 i know theres a newer version of flash cause it said so on their site..
[08:07] <kalivos> okay so run the program "Update Manager" and make sure there are no updates available there
[08:07] <liquidm> ghostwolf, you could just install google-chrome, it has flash built in
[08:07] <GhostWolf> liquidm, i don't like chrome..
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> GhostWolf: they are very different. What is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep swf; dpkg -l | grep swf
[08:07] <GhostWolf> doesn't work good on some sites
[08:08] <nutsfornatty> flash is so poor in linux, but at least it works well enough
[08:08] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: You did not lie when you said you were on here often. I finally took a look at Unity... Very good is my official verdict.
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Ghostwolf: use a pastebin to hold the text
[08:08] <GhostWolf> ok ActionParsnip
[08:08] <nutsfornatty> EGuinn: welcome to the people that understand and love unity club :-)
[08:08] <EGuinn> nutsfornatty: Yeah... quite very good. I love the interface!
[08:09] <kalivos> by the way, for anyone that was interested, boot key tested on my laptop, working fine... seems to have been a mounting issue after formatting via windows that was cleared up after a reboot of linux
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> EGuinn: its like Marmite, you either love it or hate it
[08:09] <EGuinn> ActionParsnip: Hahahahaha! That is such a great time to use that!
[08:09] <nutsfornatty> EGuinn: mine has 8 virtual desktops + all full screened apps + keyboard shortcuts to navigate. so good.
[08:10] <EGuinn> nutsfornatty: I have only been using it for a little bit. I am planning on setting up my second display soon...
[08:10] <ga_pro1988> join #ubuntu
[08:10] <ga_pro1988> hell
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> nutsfornatty: i only use one when i use it. My use is simple :-)
[08:11] <EGuinn> ga_pro1988: Where do you think we are?
[08:11] <nutsfornatty> EGuinn: nice, good luck with your dual monitor setup!
[08:11] <kalivos> sorry ga_pro1988, #hell is that way ---->
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ga_pro1988: you are already there
[08:11] <EGuinn> nutsfornatty: Thanks.
[08:11] <GhostWolf> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ErXuw37F
[08:11] <ga_pro1988> nah
[08:12] <ga_pro1988> today I choose ubuntu server
[08:12] <kalivos> GhostWolf, am i reading that right?
[08:13] <kalivos> you have an alpha version of 64-bit flash installed?
[08:13] <GhostWolf> kalivos, i did exactly what ActionParsnip told me to do.
[08:13] <GhostWolf> and i am using 64bit of ubuntu
[08:13] <elphias> im having a problem with my ubuntu install, if i use the cd to install ubuntu with the f6 (nomodeset) feature the video card works perfectly, but once i install ubuntu and reboot, the screen dosen't work right, it flickers between standby and active and says no video, there is one video card, it is an nvidia, and it is also the only onboard card availible. please help
[08:14] <GhostWolf> i was using farmville earlier today and now it won't load thats why i think its the flashplayer
[08:14] <EGuinn> elphias: Have you gotten to getting the restricted drivers?
[08:14] <elphias> no i have not becasue i can not see anything if i boot from the hard drive
[08:14] <kalivos> well GhostWolf why dont you re-install flash then
[08:14] <EGuinn> elphias: Oh dear. That is no good...
[08:14] <EGuinn> elphais: 11.04
[08:15] <EGuinn> elphias: right?
[08:15] <elphias> yes EGuinn
[08:15] <GhostWolf> kalivos, cause its a pain inthe butt when i did it fresh it was a pain to get it working
[08:15] <EGuinn> elphias: Install 10.10 first, install the restricted drivers, then do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[08:15] <elphias> i don't have any way of getting 10.10
[08:15] <liquidm> GhostWolf, http://cuack.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/adobe-flash-player-en-ubuntu-11-04-64-bits/
[08:16] <elphias> this is the only way i can use the computer
[08:16] <EGuinn> elphias: You have a box with internet as far as I can tell...
[08:16] <EGuinn> elphias: how are you using it right now?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Whom was I helping with flash earlier?
[08:16] <elphias> yes but eguinn im running off the live cd right now with only one drive
[08:16] <GhostWolf> me ActionParsnip
[08:16] <EGuinn> elphias: Do you have a thumb drive?
[08:16] <kalivos> GhostWolf, open your synaptics package manager, type adobe in the search box and right click flashplugin-installer, then click mark for removal
[08:16] <GhostWolf> you asked me to do commands and pastebin the info
[08:16] <elphias> yes, but it dosen't have alot of room
[08:16] <EGuinn> elphias: All it needs is about 1 GB.
[08:17] <elphias> let me check the space on it
[08:17] <EGuinn> elphias: Download 10.10 with your LiveCD, and create a bootable thumb drive from the .iso.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Ghostwolf: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer    may help
[08:17] <elphias> how do i do that?
[08:17] <GhostWolf> ActionParsnip, ok did you see the pastebin?
[08:17] <kalivos> ...
[08:18] <EGuinn> elphias: Open Firefox, download ubuntu -- it should have the instructions on that page for creating the bootable drive.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> GhostWolf: yes hence the command
[08:18] <elphias> ok
[08:18] <GhostWolf> ActionParsnip, ok
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> elphias: remember to md5 test the iso file
[08:18] <elphias> ok
[08:19] <elphias> ill try
[08:19] <EGuinn> elphias: Don't forget what ActionParsnip said! ActionParsnip: I should have mentioned that...
[08:19] <maj-> ActionParsnip: okay, i figured out whats wrong, anytime i attempt to do any apt-get commands, i got a python version error and it failed to execute...lst night I wanted to change my default python from 2.7 to 3.2...i deleted the original /usr/bin/python last night and made a ln -s to python --> python3.2 in /usr/bin...i deleted that symbolic link, attempted to link the previous python2.7 back but im still getting an unknown python error, any ideas?
[08:19] <EGuinn> elphias: Also, if you have any questions on such things as MD5 hashing something, search google.
[08:21] <elphias> ok i hope this works
[08:21] <elphias> too bad i cannot just somehow edit the video card or something to use vesa untill i can log in
[08:23] <EGuinn> elphias: Good luck, man!
[08:24] <elphias> EGuinn is there a way to alter the config files installed mebbie to use vesa?
[08:26] <yupe> hyyyy
[08:27] <Blou_Aap> what is the window class for overlay scrollbar ?
[08:27] <Blou_Aap> would like to exclude it from animations
[08:28] <EGuinn> elphias: I don't know. Ask ActionParsnip. He may.
[08:34] <beester> How do I point to an htm file using script. I downloaded this app and the html file is trying to pint inside the folder sitting right next to it using " <script>
[08:34] <beester> document.location="Export/GALAXIEJ.HTM"
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[08:35] <unforgiven512> Anyone around this late?
[08:35] <gbear14275> hello, trying to point virtualbox towards my cd-rom.  It appears to be pointed at sr0... how can I tell if this is the appropriate link?
[08:36] <EGuinn> Bye all, working on Django apps is taking up my interest =) See you later!
[08:36] <unforgiven512> Will CTRL+Z effectively break out a script completely? (as compared to CTRL+C killing the currently executing command within the script?)
[08:37] <maj-> okay, here is a pastebin of the error i am receiving when I attempt to do ANY apt-get functions
[08:37] <maj-> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/6369/
[08:40] <monkeyD> hey guys, I installed ubuntu 11.04 on the laptop of my brother, since that wlan doesnt work
[08:40] <dzidek> chuj
[08:41] <monkeyD> google said that it is a kernel bug
[08:41] <monkeyD> but there is a kernel fixed version
[08:41] <dzidek> Binladen IS DEAD!
[08:41] <bullgard4> !wireless | monkey0
[08:41] <Jordan_U> !ot | dzidek
[08:41] <dzidek> I LIKE YOUR PUSSY
[08:42] <monkeyD> bullgard4: so is it a kernle bug ?
[08:42] <maj-> I am having a problem with apt-get, it looks like a python version issue...it happened last night after installing python3.2, 3.2 IDE and Eclipse w/PyDev...here it is http://paste.pound-python.org/show/6369/  -- any ideas?
[08:42] <monkeyD> and is it normal that ubuntu 11.04 has so many problems with wlan ?
[08:42] <ikonia> monkeyD: depends on a lot of things
[08:43] <ikonia> monkeyD: your setup, your hardware
[08:43] <monkeyD> I did a default ubuntu installation and with 10.10 I had no problems at all
[08:44] <ikonia> monkeyD: new desktop environment with new managment tools
[08:44] <monkeyD> nothing, classic desktop
[08:44] <kronickhigh> hi everybody
[08:44] <bullgard4> MonkeyD Ubuntu 11.04 does not have more WLAN problems than previous Ubuntu releases.
[08:44] <ikonia> monkeyD: so you're not using unity either in 11.04 ?
[08:44] <millertimek1a2m3> anyone know how to use gdb that can help me
[08:44] <Skola> Heya, I was wondering how I could enable "window dragging between 2 monitors" in Ubuntu 11.04 (running unity)
[08:44] <ikonia> millertimek1a2m3: what's the problem
[08:45] <zniavre> !gnome3
[08:45] <millertimek1a2m3> I think it's really simple
[08:45] <uberfrau> hi, when i take out my USB headphones and stick them back in, the speaker and mic settings are turned all the way down for them in alsamixer. How can i save the settings?
[08:45] <millertimek1a2m3> ikonia, I'm just single stepping through a program
[08:45] <millertimek1a2m3> I have debugging info compiled into it
[08:45] <millertimek1a2m3> and when I hit a printf statement it hangs for some reason
[08:46] <monkeyD> ikonia: no unity, just the classic desktop
[08:46] <Skola> where I resize a window on my main monitor, the window/program quits/crashes
[08:46] <arquebus> millertimek1a2m3: http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/UnixAndC/CLanguage/Debug.html
[08:46] <ikonia> monkeyD: what tool are you using to configure the wireless network
[08:46] <ikonia> millertimek1a2m3: what hangs ?
[08:46] <monkeyD> but even 3 of my friends that updated their ubuntu have the same problem
[08:46] <ikonia> monkeyD: just interested in your problem at this time
[08:46] <millertimek1a2m3> ikonia: gdb
[08:46] <monkeyD> I am using the default wlan toll that you can find on the task panel
[08:47] <mangesh> hello
[08:47] <ikonia> monkeyD: task pannel ? explain how you launch it please
[08:47] <millertimek1a2m3> arquebus: thakns
[08:47] <arquebus> millertimek1a2m3: np
[08:47] <ChronicSyncope> i keep getting a weird error trying to install linux wacom tablet drivers
[08:47] <monkeyD> I click on the wlan kabel icon that is beside the clock
[08:48] <mangesh> how can I use my laptop cam ?
[08:48] <ChronicSyncope> i do ./configure and it tells me  cannot find install-sh or install.sh, but when i do ls they're clearly in the folder
[08:48] <ikonia> monkeyD: open system->administration->network
[08:48] <kronickhigh> so is that it? do most people have issues with wlan when they're new to ununtu?
[08:48] <ikonia> kronickhigh: who told you that ?
[08:48] <millertimek1a2m3> ikonia, can you still help me?
[08:48] <ChronicSyncope> kronickhigh, i sure did.
[08:48] <kronickhigh> what I'm gathering looking at the chat here, it's what I'm running into.
[08:49] <ikonia> millertimek1a2m3: I can certainly try, although I'm not sure why gdb would hang, maybe worth trying in #gcc
[08:49] <chiiiiiz> hello
[08:49] <chiiiiiz> Can anyone help me with gnome-tweak-tool on gnome3?
[08:49] <mangesh> hi, can anybody help me how can I use my cam to take some snaps??
[08:49] <ikonia> chiiiiiz: gnome3 isn't supported at this time
[08:49] <chiiiiiz> I can get in the font page, what font is used where?
[08:50] <chiiiiiz> right, where shall I call?
[08:50] <chiiiiiz> and for whom?
[08:50] <ikonia> chiiiiiz: don't know, where ever you got gnome3 from ?
[08:50] <chiiiiiz> a tuto on the internet... By the way, it works fine on natty!!
[08:50] <kronickhigh> fun part is I managed to get my wifi working somewhat... I can connect through my g2 with wifi tethering, but I cannot seem to connect to my wifi router
[08:50] <ikonia> chiiiiiz: that's fine, then contact that tutorial writer for support
[08:50] <chiiiiiz> ok
[08:51] <kronickhigh> was hoping someone can point me to some reference of some kind
[08:51] <Skola> I was wondering how I could enable "window dragging between 2 monitors" in Ubuntu 11.04 (running unity)
[08:51] <Skola> it worked before
[08:51] <ikonia> kronickhigh: what network card is it ?
[08:51] <millertimek1a2m3> ok thanks. gcc. I'll try that
[08:51] <kronickhigh> wmp300n
[08:51] <Skola> I'm using TwinView
[08:51] <ikonia> kronickhigh: who makes that, don't know that model
[08:51] <monkeyD> Ikonia: laptop isnt here but thanks anyway :)
[08:52] <kronickhigh> well... got it to work through some tutorials using ndiswrapper
[08:52] <ikonia> monkeyD: come back when your laptop is here and we can resolve it
[08:52] <kronickhigh> just won't connect to my home network
[08:52] <ikonia> kronickhigh: ok - so the first thing to keep in mind here, if you're using ndiswrapper, the drivers are not nativly linux compatible
[08:52] <kronickhigh> even changed it from wpa2 to wpa... read that was some kind of problem
[08:53] <kronickhigh> even more fun I cannot #freenode while tethering with tmobile
[08:53] <ChronicSyncope> i do ./configure and it tells me  cannot find install-sh or install.sh, but when i do ls they're clearly in the folder
[08:53] <kronickhigh> had to boot into windows to get here
[08:53] <kronickhigh> lots of fun
[08:53] <ChronicSyncope> any idea whats wrong? I'm running 64bit
[08:53] <ikonia> chiiiiiz: what are you trying to build ?
[08:53] <ikonia> oops
[08:53] <ikonia> ChronicSyncope: what are you trying to build
[08:53] <ChronicSyncope> ikonia, linux wacom drivers
[08:53] <ChronicSyncope> ikonia, for a drawing tablet
[08:53] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me with network issue
[08:54] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ask a question then
[08:54] <ikonia> ChronicSyncope: look at the permissions on the files in the directory, you must be the owner and they must have execute permissions
[08:54] <mcl0vin> everytime i ping my router it goes thru , but when i ping outside it dies and i can't access the internet
[08:54] <MonkeyDust> !ask| mcl0vin
[08:54] <ikonia> ChronicSyncope: I'd also expect the wacom drivers to be in the ubuntu repos so you don't need to "build" them
[08:54] <ChronicSyncope> ikonia, afaik they're not
[08:55] <ikonia> mcl0vin: that's going to either be DNS or a firewall
[08:55] <ikonia> mcl0vin: maybe routing
[08:55] <Skola> Last try, I don't wanna be spammy but I'd appreciate it too if you could tell me where to go with my problem: I was wondering how I could enable "window dragging between 2 monitors" in Ubuntu 11.04 (running unity)
[08:55] <ChronicSyncope> mcl0vin, check that your router sees a DNS, i can't explain how to do this
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> what's afaik?
[08:55] <ikonia> mcl0vin: can you give me an example of what you're trying to ping on the internet
[08:55] <simh> can someone show me how should /boot/grub/device.map look for /boot on software raid1?
[08:55] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: "as far as I know"
[08:56] <Quabble> anyone have a problem with SDL_mixer in Ubuntu 11.04?
[08:56] <simh> or how to force grub to make proper one and install on it. I had to boot it manyallu from cmd
[08:56] <ikonia> simh: as in mdadm software raid ?
[08:56] <simh> ikonia: yes
[08:57] <ikonia> simh: then your device.map shouldn't contain the raid device, as grub boots from the physical disk, it should be referencing the physical disk, not the raid device, as the raid device is not assembled until the kernel boots
[08:58] <ChronicSyncope> MonkeyDust, sorry, as far as i know
[08:58] <simh> ikonia: when I issue grub-install it's yelling about not having md0 in device.map
[08:58] <ikonia> simh: how did you point grub at md0 ?
[08:58] <Skola> Ah I'm reading that 11.04 broke dual-monitor support pretty badly
[08:59] <wolfric> when running nmap, you're normally able to press a button and send data to the program. however if i do sudo nmap, and press a button, the letters just appear on the line below (arrrow keys showing as ^ABCD
[08:59] <HoldKjeft> Is there a "proper way" to set the lua version I want to use to 5.1 (instead of 5.0.3) in ubuntu? There's a /etc/alternatives path
[08:59] <Skola> is there an alternative window manager that does not suck and will allow me to move windows between monitors?
[08:59] <Note-book> I want to move from 11.04 to 10.10. What do I need to backup if I want to keep all my installed applications etc. safe?
[08:59] <simh> ikonia: I didn't. It's a fresh install, I was asing for help yessterday because grub was failing at instalation time. I skiped it, booted manually from grub cmd and now I want to resolve it
[09:00] <ikonia> Note-book: your installed applications will be deleted as the only way to do this is to format the hard disk for a clean install
[09:00] <MK`> Skola: there's tons of window managers :P
[09:00] <abhinav_singh> i want to do scp operation from server 'A' to server 'B' ..i mean i wanna copy some files from server A to server B ..so server A's public key should be in server B's .ssh/authorized_keys or server B's public key should be in server A's .ssh/authorized_keys
[09:00] <ikonia> simh: there appears to be a good then
[09:00] <MK`> whether they will work with your desktop is another matter
[09:00] <ikonia> simh: "bug" then
[09:00] <Skola> I know but I want one that doesn't suck :D
[09:01] <Skola> 11.04 completely broke dual monitor workflow for me
[09:01] <MK`> which desktop are you using?
[09:01] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: private key A public key B
[09:01] <Note-book> ikonia, Where does Ubuntu install the applications by default? No luck if I backup my home directory?
[09:01] <Skola> Gnome/Unity
[09:01] <simh> ikonia: any idea what can I do?
[09:01] <ikonia> Note-book: no, they are around /bin
[09:01] <MK`> Does Classic work Skola ?
[09:01] <gharz> guys... i've installed xfce on my acer one 8gb laptop... is it possible to replace xfce with unity desktop?
[09:01] <ikonia> simh: log a bug
[09:01] <Note-book> ikonia, Okay then. Thanks.
[09:01] <Skola> MK same problems, can't drag windows between monitors
[09:01] <simh> ikonia: thanks
[09:01] <abhinav_singh> ikonia you mean that server B's public key should be in server's A .ssh/authorized_keys
[09:01] <Note-book> Skola, I hate 11.04. I'm moving to 10.04 LTS.
[09:01] <Skola> all worked fine in 10.10
[09:02] <extraymond> Need Help!!! My software-center can't see others review and rating. Is that a official bug?
[09:02] <MK`> Hm. Well you can *try* something like xfwm but this likely is just a bug in 11.04 they will fix.
[09:02] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: no
[09:02] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: the private key should be on server A. and the public key on server B
[09:02] <Skola> Note-book I thought about that, but I think I'll just go with a different desktop
[09:02] <Skola> maybe even KDE ;[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[09:03] <Skola> anything that allows me to move shit between my monitors
[09:03] <ikonia> Skola: control the language
[09:03] <Skola> yes sir, sorry
[09:03] <Note-book> Note-book, best of luck :/
[09:03] <ikonia> Skola: if you want help, ask, we'll try to help. if you want to rant, do it elswhere
[09:03] <abhinav_singh> you mean server A's public key should be in server B's .ssh/authorized_keys
[09:03] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: that works
[09:03] <Skola> ikonia, I asked only 3 times
[09:03] <MK`> Skola: try xfwm. If it doesn't explode unity, it might work. I'd suggest using it with gnome shell first
[09:03] <Skola> and I'm not ranting
[09:03] <MK`> ...probably won't work with unity.
[09:03] <ikonia> Skola: yes, and as you've found, there are a lot of bugs with it, so it's quite unreasonable to expect someone to magically fix it
[09:04] <MK`> !xfwm
[09:04] <Skola> Alright MK`, will give it a spin
[09:04] <MagePsycho> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[09:04] <Skola> ikonia, I'm not actually angry over it
[09:04] <MK`> it's in the software center
[09:04] <MagePsycho> is virtual box installation is good
[09:04] <MagePsycho> i am on ubuntu 11.04
[09:04] <Skola> Thanks MK`
[09:04] <MagePsycho> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[09:04] <MK`> xfwm4, Skola, sorry
[09:04] <MK`> that's the package name
[09:04] <Skola> ok
[09:04] <kronickhigh> man, you got your hand sfull it seems...
[09:05] <Skola> ikonia, I appreciate it and I realize I'm not the only one who needs help ;)
[09:06] <mcl0vin> !paste
[09:06] <jrmcm> the fn key on my keyboard doesnt work
[09:06] <Guest98390> guys theres something thats bugging me, if canonical intends to remove the classic login option in 11.10 then what would be the default fallback environment
[09:07] <zniavre> unity-2d no?
[09:07] <Skola> the thing is MK` I do like Unity, and if I can contribute a solution I would like to
[09:07] <jrmcm> Im trying to turn off the internal wifi card in my laptop, and i have to press fn+f8
[09:07] <MK`> Yeah Skola. this is just the window manager, not the environment
[09:08] <kronickhigh> well folks, I'm going to find some other info.... you all have a wonderful night/day
[09:08] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://screencast.com/t/Xv4Tnrno
[09:08] <gharz> guys is it possible to install unity 2d in xubuntu and remove the xfce window manager completely?
[09:09] <MK`> gharz: yeah, you can remove any part individually in the software center or manually gharz
[09:09] <sony_> if canonical intends to remove the classic login option in 11.10 then what would be the default fallback environment
[09:09] <mcl0vin> can someone  help me please
[09:09] <gharz> mk': ok thanks... i'll check how to completely remove xfce
[09:10] <MK`> sony_: unity 2d
[09:10] <sony_> oh well i guess i didn't think of that, thanks MK`
[09:11] <Robuster> hi, does ubunutu have some kind of socket limits? my program utilizes a lot of sockets and on Debian it works fine 5000+ but on Ubuntu it segmentation faults when using around 1400-1500, below it works fine but when i increase it crashes
[09:11] <Robuster> i believe it crashes when i use select()
[09:11] <toader> Hi, I just install ubuntu on my new DELL laptop, but it cannot detect my wireless. Could anybody help me?
[09:12] <ikonia> mcl0vin: why are you showing me that ?
[09:13] <mcl0vin> ikonia: to help me get internet connection back
[09:13] <toader> hi
[09:13] <ikonia> mcl0vin: you've not given me the information I asked for, I asked you for an example of the device you where pinging on the internet
[09:14] <toader> my new DELL laptop cannot detect the Wireless, could anybody help me? how to install the driver?
[09:14] <mcl0vin> ikonia: sorry i miised that
[09:15] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i can't access internet form my ubuntu box
[09:15] <froes> hi i need some help with udev. i have a usb arduino uno and i would like to set a rule to create a symlink /dev/arduino_uno. here is details of my device    http://pastebin.com/jLRTWvjn   and here is my /etc/udev/rules.d/09-local.rules     http://pastebin.com/7rvuA00s
[09:15] <mcl0vin> ikonia: no matter what device i am trying to ping.....e.g google can't ping that
[09:15] <froes> what am i doing wrong ?
[09:15] <ikonia> mcl0vin: but you can ping your router, yes ?
[09:15] <mcl0vin> yes
[09:15] <Quabble> did you use the check for additional drivers toader?
[09:16] <ikonia> mcl0vin: when you try to ping google, are you pinging google.com or an ip ?
[09:16] <mcl0vin> both
[09:16] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ok, so what is your routers private ip address?
[09:17] <mcl0vin> 192.168.1.1
[09:17] <ikonia> mcl0vin: please pastebin the output of "netstat -rn" please
[09:17] <zolek_> hey all, is there a way to install fresh ubuntu from... ubuntu?
[09:17] <ikonia> zolek_: no
[09:17] <zolek_> damn, I have no blank cd and I cannot start it from USB :/
[09:18] <ikonia> zolek_: buy some blank CD
[09:18] <zolek_> then I'd have to get dressed ;)
[09:18] <zolek_> ok, I'm off to do some shopping
[09:18] <mcl0vin> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/RgLwkzx0
[09:19] <phaidros> how do I get the old scrollbars back in gnome?
[09:19] <ikonia> mcl0vin: there is the problem you have 2 default routes both using the router on different interfaces, eth0 and br0
[09:19] <phaidros> the new ones are unusable
[09:19] <phaidros> !
[09:19] <Quabble> Anyone compile SDL_mixer in Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:20] <ikonia> mcl0vin: you also have the same problem with your 192.0 address range
[09:20] <jaco_> hi
[09:20] <bullgard4> How to enter a debug mode in Evolution? http://www.consolespot.net/psp-help-tutorials/21079-%5Bhelp%5Dstar-ocean-second-evolution-debug-mode.html
[09:21] <grenadecx-Ascend> Anyone here experienced with logcheck?
[09:21] <linuxrealm> l8
[09:23] <chemus4878> x-chat
[09:24] <sony_> whats the official channel for ubuntu 11.10
[09:24] <mrr> hello, im trying to execute some files from a directory, but the system always says "command not found". However, when i do a "dir" command all the files seem to be there, what am i doing wrong ? thanks.
[09:24] <ikonia> sony_: there isn't one
[09:24] <ikonia> sony_: 11.10 hasn't been built
[09:24] <Quabble> are the files marked executable?
[09:25] <sony_> isn't there something like ubuntu +1 or something
[09:25] <ikonia> sony_: not yet
[09:25] <sony_> hmm well thanks anyway
[09:25] <froes> has anyone messed up with udev ?
[09:26] <MagePsycho> MagePsycho	is virtual box installation is good
[09:26] <MagePsycho> 	MagePsycho	i am on ubuntu 11.04
[09:26] <MagePsycho> 	MagePsycho	sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[09:27] <ikonia> MagePsycho: why are you pasting that ?
[09:27] <MK`> what's the name of the alt-f2 run command? I want to add a launcher to it
[09:28] <uabn93> !launchpad
[09:28] <MagePsycho> i would like to know
[09:28] <MagePsycho> as i am getting some blurry font
[09:28] <ikonia> MagePsycho: like to know what ?
[09:28] <MagePsycho> my ubuntu display is not good
[09:28] <MagePsycho> it hurts my eyes
[09:29] <toader> my new DELL laptop cannot detect the Wireless, could anybody help me? how to install the driver?
[09:29] <ikonia> MagePsycho: change the fonts
[09:30] <MagePsycho> which font is best for dell studio 1569
[09:30] <ikonia> MagePsycho: depends, try some, see what you like
[09:30] <MagePsycho> which one do you use?
[09:30] <ikonia> MagePsycho: it doesn't matter what I use, try some see what YOU like
[09:31] <MagePsycho> also one weird issue is.. my laptop supports more resolution but i can see only few in monitors section
[09:31] <MagePsycho> how to increase the resolution in this case
[09:31] <uabn93> I have a question regarding wifi drivers. My laptop has a wifi adapter from Ralink. Compiling them and getting them to work was not so user friendly and it definitely is something ubuntu newcomers wouldn't be able to do. The thing is that Ralink has the linux drivers over at their webpage, so why doesn't ubuntu automatically make them work out of the box?
[09:31] <ikonia> MagePsycho: you may need to use specific xorg drivers
[09:32] <MagePsycho> can you give me a link for that.. what does that mean.. btw i m newbie
[09:33] <MagePsycho> and i heard about virtual box
[09:34] <MK`> what's the name of the alt-f2 run command? I want to add a launcher to it... when I make one for "gnome-run" it just throws an error
[09:34] <uabn93> MagePsycho: try using the ubuntu fonts. they're quite nice.
[09:36] <uabn93> MagePsycho: droid sans fonts are one of the best, too
[09:36] <Quabble> :MK` looks like you can just add it to the panel
[09:36] <MagePsycho> one question... why 10.x desktop is better than 11.x
[09:36] <MagePsycho> 10.x box seems more user friendlier
[09:36] <MK`> Quabble: @_@
[09:37] <_joey> because we got used to 10.x box
[09:37] <_joey> I hate firefox 4.x for the same reason
[09:37] <uabn93> MagePsycho: do you want me to send you a link for the android fonts? You might like them.
[09:37] <_joey> I don't like its tabs being on the top
[09:37] <maj-> why doesn't apt-get work for ANYTHING after the 11.04 install?
[09:38] <_joey> any new tab selection being first instead of selecting new window'
[09:38] <Skola> MK` xfwm4 is a great solution
[09:38] <Skola> thanks
[09:38] <_joey> it was the other way around in v.3
[09:38] <MK`> :D Skola awesome
[09:38] <_joey> I hate when things are changed
[09:38] <MagePsycho> yes uabn93 if you can
[09:38] <Skola> it just works! and it's nice in combination with gnome-do
[09:39] <maj-> is nobody else having problems with apt-get after installing 11.04 ?
[09:39] <_joey> Saranks cable!
[09:39] <uabn93> MagePsycho: here it is http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-10-04-lucid/
[09:39] <_joey> :)
[09:39] <ikonia> maj-: why don't you just tell us YOUR problem
[09:40] <maj-> ikonia: just installed it... apt-get install vim doesn't work
[09:40] <Younder> what is anacron?
[09:40] <MagePsycho> thanks
[09:40] <maj-> nor does it for irssi, or anything else i come up with, it says that package doesn't exist
[09:40] <jo__> I am in a network where I can't update the system.. It just won't start downloading, but on my brothers it does.. any ideas ?
[09:40] <MagePsycho> since i am from windows background 11.x seems bit confusing n time consuming
[09:40] <maj-> nevermind, it works now... i had to sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <Younder> and how does it realate to running tasks periodically
[09:40] <MagePsycho> which one do you prefer guys: 11.x vs 10.x in terms of desktop
[09:40] <Younder> In particular where is it setup in etc?
[09:41] <maj-> wc
[09:41] <ikonia> MagePsycho: doesn't matter what we like - its what YOU like that matters
[09:42] <MagePsycho> yes it matters
[09:42] <uabn93> MagePsycho: are you talking about the wallpaper?
[09:42] <MagePsycho> matters in the sense of opinion ;)
[09:42] <Younder> What is anacron? How does it relate to running tasks periodically? In particular where is it setup in etc?
[09:42] <MagePsycho> nope desktop
[09:43] <uabn93> I like 11.04.
[09:43] <Guest5853> !cron
[09:43] <Younder> but cron isn't used anacron IS!
[09:44] <jpds> Younder: They both are.
[09:44] <uabn93> Not all PCs are compatible with unity in 11.04, though. Like my desktop.
[09:44] <maj-> what are the keyboard shortcuts for switching workspaces?
[09:45] <jpds> Younder: Configuration for anacron is at /etc/anacrontab.
[09:45] <uabn93> MagePsycho: you know you can still log in with the old 10.x desktop in 11.04 right?
[09:46] <MagePsycho> yes
[09:46] <jo__> I am in a network where I can't update the system.. It just won't start downloading, but on my brothers it does.. any ideas ?
[09:46] <DJones> maj-: Does this help http://i.imgur.com/pf1y5.png
[09:46] <MagePsycho> from login screen rite
[09:47] <Guest75086> guys, need some help with my printer, i installed everything including hplip, but still, it doesn't print
[09:47] <_TiM_> hello there!
[09:48] <uabn93> MagePsycho: yup. I guess you already know.
[09:48] <Vir> Hi, Natty apparently changed the location of some libs to be in the x86_64-linux-gnu subdir. What is the rationale there, and how am I supposed to compile projects that now fail to find libc/libpthread?
[09:48] <gorenie> Hello.
[09:48] <MagePsycho> ye sthis channel let me know yesterday
[09:48] <MagePsycho> this channel seems useful
[09:48] <uabn93> MagePsycho: Are you using a laptop?
[09:49] <MagePsycho> ya
[09:49] <MagePsycho> why
[09:50] <Awolf> Hello everyone
[09:50] <gorenie> How do I configure ETC/HOSTS for mail server?
[09:51] <Awolf> Can anyone help me I'm having some trouble with Gwibber
[09:51] <_TiM_> how can I ping name on ubuntu vs windows lan?
[09:51] <uabn93> MagePsycho: because i noticed that on mine, double clicking the trackpad to move windows is a pain. Disabling "grid" and "snapping windows" fixed it for me.
[09:52] <uabn93> in compiz settings
[09:52] <Younder> unity is a pain again :)
[09:52] <uabn93> Younder? why?
[09:52] <ikonia> _TiM_: you need a working dns name resolution service
[09:52] <Quabble> Error initializing SDL_mixer: No available audio device - with latest Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[09:53] <Younder> It and the NVidea driver don't mix
[09:53] <_TiM_> ikonia:  how can i get one?
[09:53] <ikonia> _TiM_: you need to set one up
[09:53] <Bet> hello!
[09:53] <_TiM_> ikonia: or what can i do?
[09:53] <ikonia> _TiM_: a simple cheat is to put your windows hostnames/ips in /etc/hosts
[09:53] <ikonia> _TiM_: /etc/hosts on the Ubuntu machine
[09:54] <Younder> uabn93,  It and the NVidea driver don't mix
[09:54] <_TiM_> ikonia:  hum, okay i'll try...
[09:55] <earthwormjim> Hi
[09:56] <Awolf> how can I share a folder between windows 7 and ubuntu 11.04?
[09:56] <MagePsycho> Disabling "grid" and "snapping windows" fixed it for me.
[09:56] <uabn93> Younder? that's not good. I was about to buy an nvidia card.
[09:56] <earthwormjim> I am having difficulty running the software center. It won't open. I run it from the terminal to get an idea of what its error is, and I see: ImportError: No module named dbus
[09:56] <MagePsycho> CAN YOU EXPLAIN A  BIT
[09:56] <hashem>  hi
[09:56] <ikonia> MagePsycho: STOP WITH CAPS
[09:57] <hashem> any one here
[09:57] <MagePsycho> typos  ikonia
[09:57] <ikonia> 1400+ are here
[09:57] <hashem> hi 1400+
[09:57] <Younder> uabn93, I have an old 7300 card
[09:57] <earthwormjim> I just checked Synaptic and I have it installed. Weird.
[09:58] <hashem> i have problem with my geuius mouse pad
[09:58] <Quabble> Awolf: look up samba
[09:59] <hashem> it works but its pointer remain on top left of screen
[10:00] <ph8> hi all, i've just convinced the office to replace their windows ftp server with an ubuntu solution, jackpot!
[10:01] <ph8> They love their GUIs though, i've used proftpd in the past and am really happy with server admin - but does anyone know a good proftpd GUI they can use just to add (virtual) users?
[10:01] <Awolf> well
[10:01] <Awolf> I have when I was using 10.10
[10:01] <Awolf> maverik meerkat that is
[10:01] <Younder> Now if you can just find people who know how to maintain it..
[10:01] <ph8> ;)
[10:01] <Awolf> I just couldnt create the network can I get some help ?
[10:01] <ph8> i'm training our support department slowly
[10:03] <uabn93> ph8: I think all the "experts" are away/sleeping.lol
[10:03] <vivian> hi guys, where can I get 11.04 help/tips/answers?
[10:03] <Younder> ph8 I just use adduser
[10:03] <ikonia> vivian: https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:04] <vivian> thanks
[10:04] <hellyeah> hey
[10:04] <uabn93> vivian: or http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Natty
[10:04] <hellyeah> can someone suggest me to install web server (php mysql apache2 python etc.) a link ?
[10:05] <mcl0vin> anyone familiar with tap interface , can you help me please
[10:05] <vivian> well, my question is more specific? regarding, the scroll bar on the left... and my productivity taking a dive because I have to scroll PAINFULLY slow to open apps/windows etc
[10:05] <Younder> hellyeah, sodo apt-get install apache
[10:05] <vivian> just wanted to know if there is anyway to speed up the scroll?
[10:05] <uabn93> vivian: or go to system>help and support
[10:05] <hmimydj> does anybody ever use antlr v3?
[10:05] <uabn93> on the menu on top.
[10:05] <hellyeah> http://www.lullabot.com/videos/install-local-web-server-ubuntu this adres is sufficiently enough for that
[10:06] <Younder> hellyeah, get used to having at least one terminal window open
[10:06] <philipballew> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/netflix-chrome-plugin-will-bring-on-demand-video-to-linux/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)&utm_content=FaceBook
[10:07] <philipballew> apperently nexflix is coming to linux
[10:07] <uabn93> vivian: go to system>preferences>mouse
[10:07] <ikonia> philipballew: that's offtopic here
[10:07] <philipballew> its true, it is off topic
[10:09] <karthick87> How to install java plugin in ubuntu 10.04?
[10:09] <karthick87> sorry 10.10
[10:09] <jrib> !java | karthick87
[10:11] <havok> is using an ssh key without a passphrase vulnerable to attack?
[10:11] <CaBa> hi
[10:12] <maj-> is there anyway to connect to an ftp server without having to use the cli or download 3rd party software? I think there is in ubuntu classic, that's why im asking
[10:12] <jrib> maj-: use nautilus
[10:12] <CaBa> is there any known issue about the /tmp permissions being changed by a package update or something? mine were changed to 755 somehow which lead to various problems of course
[10:12] <jrib> CaBa: try http://bugs.ubuntu.com to check for known issues
[10:12] <CaBa> and this is not the first machine i observe this on, about a year ago i had seen this on another machine
[10:13] <celthunder> havok: depends how you store the key
[10:13] <celthunder> havok: if you leave it lying around of course it's vulnerable
[10:13] <havok> lol, yup understandably
[10:14] <havok> i need to just read up i guess on where the public key and private key go..
[10:14] <celthunder> then again physical access EVERYTHING is vulnerable and .ssh/id_rsa private key and .ssh/authenticated_keys
[10:14] <celthunder> havok: that's where they go
[10:15] <_TiM_> ikonia:  it didn't work
[10:15] <havok> ah yup, i've seen those file names around
[10:15] <celthunder> havok: sorry authorized_keys
[10:15] <celthunder> blah it's 5am lol
[10:15] <havok> in theory, can I used the same private / public keys to log into my machine with putty as with NX (Nomachine)
[10:15] <s3r3n1t7> havok, yes
[10:16] <havok> sweet, thats what i'm hoping to achieve
[10:16] <ph8> Younder, but i want virtual users
[10:16] <celthunder> havok: yeah
[10:16] <havok> it seems like there are loads of ways to generate them etc which is confusing me slightly
[10:16] <ph8> 'full' system users doesn't sound very secure to me!
[10:16] <celthunder> havok: i use the same private key to login everywhere
[10:16] <havok> and whether its rsa or rsa2..
[10:16] <havok> neato
[10:16] <havok> passphrase protected?
[10:16] <celthunder> yeah but i have backups of the private where others can get to it
[10:17] <havok> just to double check, the private key is the one you keep on your machine right, and the public key is what is saved in your home directory on the server?
[10:17] <celthunder> i have a unpass'd version so i can get inwithout the pw in a hurry too
[10:17] <celthunder> yeah
[10:17] <havok> kk
[10:17] <celthunder> that's right
[10:17] <havok> i guess i'll just keep hacking away at it
[10:17] <havok> i got distracted and made my self a pretty motd
[10:17] <havok> so that on the rare occasiosn that i go in on putty i see a cool message :)
[10:18] <havok> and i guess anyone that successfully hacks it..
[10:19] <abhinav_singh>  i am having two servers. server A and server B .i want to copy some files from server A to server B using SCP..so i copied the public key of server A to .ssh/authorized_key of of server 'B' ...now when i am doing scp from server 'A' ..i am getting this error ..Permission denied (publickey). .lost connection ..how do i fix it
[10:19] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: I've told you what to do
[10:19] <abhinav_singh> i ahve done that ikonia
[10:20] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: it's the user key you've copied, not the server key correct ?
[10:21] <abhinav_singh> yes ..i ahve copied user's key...how do i copy the server key ikonia
[10:21] <abhinav_singh> i mean where do i find server's key ikonia
[10:21] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: you don't copy the servers key
[10:22] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: so you have put the users public key in authorized_keys in /home/$user/.ssh on server b?
[10:22] <abhinav_singh> yes ikonia
[10:23] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: and you have the users private key in /home/$user/.ssh on server a
[10:23] <Jazztobak> Hello Im thinking of try ubuntu, but i cant find drivers to my mothercard for linux, is there a place to get drivers? My mothercard is Gigabyte EP45-DS3
[10:23] <abhinav_singh> yes ikonia
[10:23] <ikonia> Jazztobak: what devices are not working ?
[10:24] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: can you show me the output of "ls -la" on the private key on server a ?
[10:24] <Jazztobak> I cant find drivers to my mothercard
[10:24] <ikonia> Jazztobak: you don't need them
[10:24] <ikonia> Jazztobak: the linux kernel runs hardware from the "drivers" it has ithin it
[10:24] <ikonia> within
[10:24] <Jazztobak> ok :)
[10:24] <abhinav_singh> yes i am showing you wait..well i am able to use scp from server B to server A...but not from server 'A' to 'B'
[10:24] <abhinav_singh> ikonia:
[10:25] <abhinav_singh> -rw------- 1 abhinav hegfjei 1675 2010-09-28 09:08 id_rsa ikonia
[10:25] <Jazztobak> Why is the 32-bit to be recommended?
[10:25] <ikonia> Jazztobak: it's not really, it's just a "failsafe" option really
[10:25] <ikonia> abhinav_singh: that looks fine
[10:25] <jrib> Jazztobak: nothing wrong with 64bit if you want to use it
[10:26] <Jazztobak> Ok thnx
[10:28] <Jazztobak> My last question befor instaling Im runing my internet by WIFI do you have to do somethings whte the router to get it working?
[10:28] <jnoijnoijn> hi
[10:29] <ikonia> Jazztobak: no
[10:29] <Jazztobak> sweet :)
[10:29] <Jazztobak> Thanks for the help
[10:32] <xxk> jk
[10:37] <fsvieira> hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, and I would like to install firefox 3, how can I do this? I dont find it in synaptic
[10:38] <srounet> Hi
[10:38] <srounet> Is there a way to start pure-ftpd as CHUID ?
[10:41] <DDAZZA> Is it possible to export my gmail contacts into my ubuntu one contacts?
[10:44] <veovis_muaddib> If I have a monitor, and it doesn't report what resolutions it supports, then how do I tell the nVidia proprietary drivers what resolution to output?  It's locking me to 640x480, which is literally unusable
[10:45] <veovis_muaddib> I've been running it as a secondary monitor for Windows at 1024x768, and it can go higher than that
[10:46] <veovis_muaddib> But it's also my primary testing monitor, and the only one that has a VGA port...
[10:46] <srounet> start-stop-daemon --start --chuid user:group /usr/local/sbin/pure-ftpd
[10:46] <srounet> does not work
[10:46] <srounet> can't start pureftpd as chuid ?
[10:47] <Quabble> :veovis_muaddib did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:51] <veovis_muaddib> Quabble: No, not yet.  I don't have access to the internet when I start working on it, so what would I do from there?
[10:53] <sockbanana> hellooo?
[10:53] <veovis_muaddib> Hello
[10:54] <quick> hi  people :)
[10:54] <sockbanana> hey, having a problem with a live usb with ubuntu natty.
[10:55] <quick> A  sockbanana : whats the issue ?
[10:55] <quick> @  sockbanana : whats the issue ?
[10:55] <sockbanana> @quick I have set the intall to persistant but every time I boot from usb  it ask to log in automagically or via user
[10:56] <sockbanana> but I never set up a user profile
[10:58] <quick> @  sockbanana : wats the username ?
[10:58] <quick> @  sockbanana : wats the username ? is it ubuntu ?
[10:58] <sockbanana> that's the problem, it asks. I assumed "ubuntu" but no
[10:59] <sockbanana> I never set a profile up, could that be the problem?
[10:59] <Hukka> Here's a quiz: How can I make gdm login appear on a monitor I want?
[10:59] <Hukka> I have a dual head, and it's always on the wrong one
[11:00] <Hukka> Using randr, no xinerama or twinview
[11:00] <eth01> any recommendations on image burning software which supports bluray ?
[11:01] <quick> while installing u didnt set a user profile ?
[11:01] <veovis_muaddib> quick, he installed to USB, wich doesn'
[11:01] <veovis_muaddib> doesn't ask for a user account
[11:01] <echo_yuanlin> hello
[11:02] <echo_yuanlin> anybody here?
[11:02] <echo_yuanlin> i have a question
[11:02] <sockbanana> no, I don't think I 'installed' it just used the usb creator. so was not asked to create user profile
[11:02] <quick> @ <echo_yuanlin> : ya we are here
[11:02] <echo_yuanlin> why ubuntu didn't have the choice of system-config-authentication?
[11:03] <quick> sockbanana : did u had any ohter os installed on it
[11:03] <sockbanana> nope clean format
[11:04] <thegoodcushion> I formatted my 1 terabyte hard disk to have a Windows 7 partition and an Ubuntu partition.  I find that I have a "System Reserved" partition of 105 megs at the start.  Did Ubuntu create this?
[11:05] <sunny> hi
[11:05] <s3r3n1t7> thegoodcushion, no, that was created by windows.
[11:05] <echo_yuanlin> i am learning  rh133  ,and   something differnt between ubuntu and redhat  ,  anything can  do help this /
[11:05] <thegoodcushion> ok
[11:05] <shijo> no Windows create it
[11:05] <shijo> hi sunnny
 : yup , it was created by ubuntu .
[11:05] <thegoodcushion> quick: Well gee that's not what the other two said
[11:06] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: not sure but probably factory partition
[11:06] <shijo> @ quick it is created by windows not by ubuntu
 no i am sorry that wasnt't for you
[11:07] <sockbanana> @quick yes by the windows creator
[11:07] <thegoodcushion> It contains bootmgr.exe.mui and memtest.exe.mui
[11:07] <ken> ls
[11:07] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: leave that partition and install Windows first then Ubuntu
[11:08] <quick> sockbanana : do u have any document or imp stuff in that pen drive  ? if not
[11:08] <thegoodcushion> zvacet: Well I had Windows installed then I repartitioned for Ubuntu
[11:09] <sockbanana> nope, soz just reformated usb to fat32 with windows then used windows exe intaller to create ubuntu liveusb
[11:09] <zvacet> thegoodcushion: if you are done with shrinking windows then install Ubunu sorry for misunderstanding
[11:10] <quick> then format it once again  i'll say use universal USB installer from http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ or you may even use the startup disk creator in ubuntu . i hope it'lll be fine
[11:11] <sockbanana> @quick thanx dude, I was just considering using the ubuntu creator. kcyabye cheers
[11:12] <quick> sockbanana : cheers
[11:14] <bullgard4> When booting Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK] [fail]." What program did write them?
[11:19] <ajmak> hey guys, anyone help with a perl install prob?
[11:20] <[diablo]> morning #ubuntu ... anyone finding that XChat does not have a tray icon when using Unity please?
[11:21] <ajmak> no-one around today?
[11:21] <[diablo]> me for what its worth :D
[11:21] <ajmak> diablo: heh, know much about perl? :)
[11:22] <[diablo]> ajmak, I used to code  a bit in it years ago
[11:22] <AceKing> I had to start a laptop with Live CD. I wanted to use the classic desktop so I logged out and tried to log back in. What is the password to get back in?
[11:23] <ajmak> diablo: ever had a prob with a script unable to find an installed module?  I installed Net::LDAP but keep getting a "can't locate in @INC" error when calling from a script....
[11:23] <rcconf> hello
[11:23] <[diablo]> ajmak, pastebin please a bit more info
[11:24] <computerquip> I just attempted to install the fglrx driver via "Additional Drivers" menu (jockey) and it failed towards the end.
[11:24] <computerquip> I'll post up an error..
[11:24] <webian> gsg
[11:25] <webian> ryry
[11:25] <ajmak> i'm querying ad using ldap using this script modified for my env (correct DC, user accounts added) http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/getadsmtp.txt
[11:25] <computerquip> http://codepad.org/Lk9sS6cV
[11:26] <administrator_> root
[11:26] <administrator_> hey
[11:26] <[diablo]> ajmak, OK, but can you pastebin the output of the error please
[11:26] <ajmak> this is the error i'm getting http://pastebin.com/N1i3zswp
[11:26] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[11:27] <Kartagis> !resetpanels
[11:27] <computerquip> Also, the Ubuntu installation never asked me for my root password. Does Ubuntu try and stay away from su and root (other than sudo)?
[11:27] <[diablo]> ajmak, you have installed libnet-ldap-perl
[11:28] <AceKing> OK, I realized the password is left blank, but is there a way to startup into the classic desktop instead of this new crap on Live CD?
[11:28] <computerquip> sudo su root seems to work just fine though...
[11:28] <fsvieira> Hello, can anyone helpme to install firefox 3 in ubuntu 11.04
[11:28] <ajmak> so I've installed the wrong module for this script?
[11:29] <[diablo]> ajmak, sudo apt-get install libnet-ldap-perl
[11:29] <[diablo]> ajmak, then try re-running it
[11:29] <quick> hey people i am not able to use any irc chat client in ubuntu . i use a local proxy to connect to internet . Pls help
[11:30] <computerquip> quick, aren't you using an IRC client now?
[11:30] <twotenam> hehe
[11:30] <quick> it's webchat.freenode.com
[11:31] <ajmak> diablo@ 'k, downloading that now
[11:31] <quick> computerquip : through web not through any irc client
[11:31] <computerquip> That's still an IRC client from the client side (via Java). What others have you tried?
[11:31] <majo_> hello
[11:31] <[diablo]> quick, XChat -> Preferences -> Network -> Proxy Authentication
[11:31] <quick> computerquip : i have tried x chat  and mIRc
[11:31] <majokuno> and?
[11:32] <computerquip> If you used xchat, I would check out [diablo]'s suggestion.
[11:32] <Pumpkin-> computerquip: actually, thats not via clientside java. webchat.freenode.net is all AJAX and serverside.
[11:33] <AceKing> I've been using Ubuntu for four years now. I absolutely HATE the new layout! I don't mind change, but this is ridiculous. I know how to change it after an install, but during a Live CD session I find myself on an Easter egg hunt just to find everything! If someone can tell me how to use Classic Ubuntu from Live CD I would appreciate it.
[11:33] <[diablo]> quick, if you can SSH tunnel to home or something like that, you could setup a socks proxy :)
[11:33] <[diablo]> AceKing, in GDM choose Gnome Classic
[11:33] <quick> diablo : i dnt use ssh i tried that proxy but still it's not working
[11:33] <computerquip> ah, Pumpkin- is right... I thought it was just another instance of that Java client going around...
[11:33] <apc> herp
[11:33] <[diablo]> AceKing, you could also install the Gnome3 PPA.. Gnome3 is niceee
[11:34] <AceKing> [diablo], but I have to logout to do that right?
[11:34] <[diablo]> AceKing, sure
[11:34] <neo3> quick, have you tried pidgin?
[11:34] <AceKing> [diablo], I tried that.
[11:34] <[diablo]> AceKing, select your username in GDM, then below, change the session
[11:35] <[diablo]> AceKing, no reason why it would not work...
[11:35] <[diablo]> AceKing, oh, you have installed Ubuntu 11.04 or you are running it live ?
[11:35] <AceKing> [diablo], I am going to try again. BTW.. I didn't know about Gnome3. How do I install that?
[11:35] <[diablo]> AceKing, one sec let me find you the PPA info
[11:35] <AceKing> [diablo], I'm running off of Live CD
[11:35] <quick> neo3 : it doesn't download untrusted packages
[11:36] <quick> neo3 i can install it but i have not tried
[11:36] <[diablo]> AceKing, ah ok ... mmm well certainly if you have installed it, you can switch to Classic Gnome
[11:36] <zniavre> good afternoon
[11:36] <[diablo]> AceKing, have no idea if it would work on LiveCD
[11:37] <zniavre> if unity can't work (old hardware blacklisted by unity FX5500 nvidia) , gnome-shell can work instead ?
[11:37] <AceKing> [diablo], I know, I'm doing that on my PC. I'll have to just deal with it for a little bit.
[11:37] <neo3> quick, you can download .deb and install it with "dpkg -i filename.deb"
[11:37] <[diablo]> AceKing, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/gnome-3-released-to-be-available-for-ubuntu-11-04-via-ppa/
[11:37] <AceKing> [diablo], Thank you! YOU ROCK!!
[11:37] <[diablo]> AceKing, beware ! The PPA is not stable ... if you can, I would install 11.04 as normal, then just change the session to Classic
[11:38] <ubuntu> jl
[11:38] <[diablo]> AceKing, but I am certainly looking forward to Gnome 3 in the future release of Ubuntu (hopefully they will include it)
[11:38] <AceKing> [diablo], OK, I will install it on my "test" laptop
[11:38] <ubuntu> k
[11:38] <ubuntu> mmlklm
[11:38] <ubuntu> uujj
[11:38] <FloodBot1> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <AceKing> [diablo], Thank you so much for your help!!
[11:38] <ubuntu> salope
[11:38] <rcconf> I am trying to block an address using /etc/hosts ...... I have blocked all the IPs but if I use www.hostnametoblock.com it still loads the page.
[11:39] <[diablo]> AceKing, your welcome, good luck
[11:39] <neo3> quick, download this one https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/+files/pidgin-ppa_0.0.5_all.deb
[11:39] <rcconf> is Ubuntu keeping a DNS cache or something?
[11:39] <[diablo]> ajmak, did it work?
[11:39] <ajmak> diablo: cheers m8, that fixed my perl prob. just need to get the actual script working now :)
[11:39] <[diablo]> ajmak, cool
[11:40] <[diablo]> damn, not having any tray icon in XChat sucks :-\
[11:40] <SarcasMo> ellow
[11:40] <zniavre> diablo you can install xchat-indicator
[11:40] <mah454> Hello ...
[11:41] <[diablo]> zniavre, that works with Unity?
[11:41] <mah454> i wrile number 100 to a file (echo 100 > file) .  now i need grep 1 from 100 . this command not work "grep 1 file" . i need only number 1 !
[11:41] <zniavre> yes it takes place in application-menu (enveloppe)
[11:41] <[diablo]> ohhh
[11:41] <[diablo]> zniavre, thanks for that !
[11:42] <[diablo]> brb
[11:42] <tbf> seems i am living under a rock. what is linaro, and what's its relationship towards ubuntu?
[11:43] <rcconf> o.o
[11:43] <[diablo]> zniavre, mmm seems to stuff up when I close xchat
[11:45] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[11:45] <gioski> sorry to ask it here but this channel seems more active than #ayatana. I'm willing to help with bitsize bugfixes for unity and I'm wondering if there are sort of "best practices" for debugging Unity and stuff. Thank you
[11:47] <Dattebayo> do we some other application like rar?
[11:48] <HRezaei> Hi people!
[11:48] <rcconf> hi
[11:48] <ajmak> diablo: got script problems worked out, running fine now, cheers for your help :)
[11:49] <htcpx> Why is clicking "try ubuntu" faster than running and installed version?
[11:49] <htcpx> an*
[11:49] <rcconf> Lol
[11:49] <rcconf> htcpx: your disk is too slow?
[11:49] <htcpx> how does that relate?
[11:49] <[diablo]> ajmak, yw
[11:49] <rcconf> htcpx: livecd = cd and ram
[11:50] <rcconf> installed = hdd
[11:50] <rcconf> and ram ofc
[11:50] <HRezaei> I've formatted my active partition to install a new win7. so my ubuntu doesn't work,but its files are still in an Ext4 partition. can I use it again(is this solution?: repairing or recreating a grub bootloader )?
[11:50] <htcpx> lol you think a cd drive can be faster than a hard drive?
[11:51] <rcconf> htcpx: well u did something wrong . you are saying livecd is booting faster
[11:51] <rcconf> r u just trollin
[11:51] <htcpx> if you don't know the answer to my question please don't respond
[11:53] <quick> neo3 : it's not working in pidgin also
[11:53] <HRezaei> any one to help me?
[11:54] <rcconf> !anyone | HRezaei
[11:54] <neo3> !qq
[11:54] <rcconf> htcpx: you don't give details
[11:54] <rcconf> no one can help you
[11:54] <neo3> !gq
[11:54] <SarcasMo> does anyone know where i can find HTML indentation for kate?
[11:55] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[11:55] <Guest75086> guys, need some help with my printer, i installed everything including hplip, but still, it doesn't print
[11:56] <quick> ok pple have fun
[11:56] <quick> i am going
[11:57] <SarcasMo> can anyone help me with Kate?
[11:57] <htcpx> rcconf, the live image doesn't launch as many packages as an installation does yet I can do everything in the live image - graphics card is detected so i can have my 1920x1080 display, i can play 1080p videos on youtube with no 'jittering' or 'lag'. whereas off an installation, boot time is almost 60 seconds more and this is on a ssd over sata2 and i tried on my raid set up.
[11:58] <bullgard4> HRezaei: You should install now Win7. Then install Ubuntu in a customized fashion You will be able to re-use your files on the ext4 partition.
[11:58] <rcconf> htcpx: sudo rcconf
[11:58] <rcconf> disable unwanted services
[11:58] <rcconf> system > preferences > startup apps
[11:58] <rcconf> etc
[11:59] <bullgard4> HRezaei: You should install now Win7. But keep in mind not to overwrite your ext4 partition. Then install Ubuntu in a customized fashion You will be able to re-use your files on the ext4 partition.
[11:59] <An_Ony_Moose> I have a question about the perl bindings for libnotify (in Gtk2::Notify). Where am I best off asking? (The question is whether I can disable the summary while creating a notification object.)
[11:59] <HRezaei> bullgard4: no.I want to re use that ubuntu I had before. I've installed win7 now.
[12:00] <lbt> smoser:  I'm trying to use fsfreeze from util-linux (2.17.2-3.3ubuntu5) but util-linux_2.17.2-3.3ubuntu5~ppa0_amd64.deb doesn't have it included...
[12:00] <bullgard4> HRezaei: You do not need to re-use your old Ubuntu. You can install a new Ubuntu release as well.
[12:01] <HRezaei> bullgard4: but I want to reboot that. is there anyway?
[12:01] <bullgard4> HRezaei: (I spoke about re-using your ext4 files.)
[12:01] <bullgard4> HRezaei: What do you want to reboot?
[12:01] <HRezaei> bullgard4: those files are only ubuntu's files
[12:02] <HRezaei> bullgard4: I have been installed my ubuntu on that ext4 drive.
[12:03] <bullgard4> HRezaei: Do you mean that you installed your complete Ubuntu on one ext4 partition?
[12:03] <bullgard4> HRezaei: or "drive"?
[12:04] <HRezaei> bullgard4: on a partition. I dont understand diffs between partition and drive. I dont want to install an ubuntu again.
[12:07] <zagibu> a drive is the physical thing and a partition is a logical thing that can be used to create separated area on a drive
[12:07] <kaie> The only fully cross platform solutions for voip+video chat seem to be skype and google-talk (via browser plugin), which are both proprietary. I'm looking for something free that supports all of Linux/Mac/Windows, but it seems, there is no such thing.
[12:07] <zagibu> of course, there's more to it, but that's the gist of it
[12:08] <kaie> s/free/non-proprietary/
[12:09] <bullgard4> HRezaei: A hard disk drive is a hardware component which you can buy in a shop. A hard disk is a component of a hard disk drive. It rotates. A partition is a part of a hard disk which has been magnetized so that it is for software separated from other partitions.
[12:10] <bullgard4> HRezaei: A hard disk drive is a hardware component which you can buy in a shop. A hard disk is a component of a hard disk drive. It rotates. A partition is a part of a hard disk which has been magnetized so that it is for software separated from other partitions on the same hard disk.
[12:10] <HRezaei> bullgard4: ok, thanks
[12:18] <neo3> does anybody use raiser4?
[12:19] <Yancho> hi guys. is it possible to clean a new desktop install from all the games at one go?
[12:20] <SergeyIT>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:21] <berkes> Where does the new Firefox4 in 11.04 store its passwords? I was told it can use native backends, but seahorse and keyring shows none of the FF entries.
[12:22] <pimperle> hi
[12:23] <pimperle> i'd like to test evince 3 on ubuntu using my own ppa. i've found packages for it on debian experimental and wonder what the right way to go is. i could recompile and upload it unchanged, which launchpad asked me not to do.
[12:23] <pimperle> however i don't have any changes right now.
[12:24] <pimperle> is there some "official" way to recompile those packages on lp?
[12:24] <An_Ony_Moose> pimperle: can't you just not upload it until you've made changes? :^)
[12:24] <rewalsar> QUESTION: I Have downloaded ubuntu 11.04 iso file how to upgrade without booting from usb or cdrom?
[12:26] <An_Ony_Moose> In the perl Gtk2::Notify module, is it possible for a notification not to require a summary? (Or, can anyone direct me to a channel where I'm better off asking?)
[12:26] <pimperle> An_Ony_Moose: but i'd like to distribute it to a couple of machines and using my ppa would make that a lot easier. right now i'd have to download and recompile the source from debian for each machine or distribute it myself
[12:28] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[12:30] <consolers> please help me get a login prompt on my ubuntu 11.4 install ---- X doesnt start and I can't do anything. I can mount the disk and I can see init/tty[1-6].conf
[12:31] <consolers> another issue is i cant chroot into the installation and fix anything using gfx tools -- etc/initctl is fake
[12:31] <consolers> can anyonw please tell me how upstart/init works, so i can follow and fix things?
[12:32] <nep0x> please help me to understand one thing about unix filesystem; inode address to physical data isn't it? where are they stored and how¿
[12:32] <consolers> the machine itself is responsive, though i cannot do anything and i dont have a login prompt, i can C-A-DEL and reboot it cleanly.
[12:32] <consolers> nep0x which filesystem?
[12:32] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels?
[12:32] <benbe> Hi, I've got trouble with my wireless (ath9k) since I updated my Maverick to Natty: I keep getting Kernel Crashes (not logged to disk) when wpasupplicant auths the network for WPA/WPA2.
[12:33] <consolers> everything i've understood with 20 years of unix is useless with natty, which seems to be engineered for sophistication of and only sophistication of windows 95 user
[12:33] <BajK> following situation: I want to install Kubuntu using an USB stick (since I dont want to burn a CD for every relase) on a computer that doesnt boot from usb. I have Kubuntu 10.10 already installed, so Grub 2 is present there. how can I boot the usb stick thne?
[12:34] <LULLING_HARD> No sound in Flash with Maverick.  using standard flash plugin from repos
[12:35] <consolers> bajk: general idea is syslinux /dev/sdXX <- wherever your usb stick is, then mount the usb stick and edit syslinux.cfg in the root directory
[12:35] <benbe> baji: set the root to hd1,0 or whatever device it is for you
[12:35] <rewalsar> SAME QUESTION: ollowing situation: I want to install Kubuntu using an USB stick (since I dont want to burn a CD for every relase) on a computer that doesnt boot from usb. I have Kubuntu 10.10 already installed, so Grub 2 is present there. how can I boot the usb stick thne?
[12:35] <consolers> rewalsar if your bios doesnt recognize usb you cant do anything at boot time
[12:35] <kemo006> Hi everyone!
[12:35] <BajK> consolers: hm? dont understand
[12:36] <BajK> benbe: so I choose E on the ubuntu entry and then change the root?
[12:36] <consolers> bajk maybe i misunderstood your q
[12:36] <JoelR> Hi, i have a question how do i reconfigure my screen resolution?
[12:36] <consolers> joelr: administation-> monitors
[12:36] <philip__> hey i want to use gnome 3 what can i do?
[12:36] <BajK> consolers: the usb stick is already there and works (cvreated using that usb-creator that kubuntu ships) but the computer doesnt boot from USB. But I have GRUB 2 installed on the computer and so ti should bne possible to boot the USb stick from grub? like you can boto a floppy or cd
[12:37] <praveen> joelR,try this:http://www.tricksfind.in/2011/04/how-to-set-resolution-via-terminal-in.html
[12:37] <consolers> praveen = h0mee ?
[12:37] <LULLING_HARD> Anyone know anything about no sound with Flash in Maverick?  I am sure its not my sound settings or gain.
[12:38] <benbe> bajk basically yes. you might have to try the exact hd number though. usually the first after all physical disks. but if your BIOS doesn't detect the Stick there's little you can do.
[12:38] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[12:38] <JoelR> praveen: yes but when i reboot i have to do it again
[12:38] <kemo006> i've got a question if someone can help me : gwibber always notify unread messages even when there isn't. How to do?
[12:38] <consolers> joelr you have to create an xorg.conf file then
[12:38] <JoelR> praveen, what if i want to change the driver or something?
[12:39] <BajK> benbe: so I plug the stick in, press E on the grub menu (to change startup parameters) and just change the hdd to the usb stick number? or do I need any other changes since the USB stick features syslinux thing
[12:39] <JoelR> consolers, that's it, but is there any way todo it in ubuntu? i mean, if i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it doesn't do anything.
[12:39] <praveen> consolers, sorry i didn't get you...
[12:39] <ikonia> JoelR: you need to create an xorg.conf file
[12:39] <consolers> can anyone please tell me how upstart/init works, so i can follow and fix things? I'm not able to get a login prompt and X doesnt start, so I cant do anything
[12:40] <consolers> I cant mount the partiotion and chroot  and fix anything either because initctl is a fake script
[12:40] <consolers> i just want a login prompt
[12:40] <consolers> or a bash root shell
[12:40] <consolers> how hard is that!
[12:40] <JoelR> Ok, i'm gonna explain it again, i had ubuntu 10.04 working "fine", i upgraded to 10.10 and now my resolution is wrong, if it was fine before i think i should had that xorg.conf file, right?
[12:40] <ikonia> consolers: slow down, explain the problem from the start
[12:40] <ikonia> JoelR: look in /etc/X11 see if there is an xorg.conf file
[12:40] <consolers> ikonia i have an installation where X is fuxxored --- X doesnt start.
[12:41] <ikonia> consolers: control the language, it's not needed
[12:41] <ikonia> consolers: ok - has xorg ever worked, nor ever worked from the start
[12:41] <consolers> ikonia i cant C-Alt-F1 to get a login, or boot into single user mode. all i can do when it starts is control-alt-del reboot
[12:41] <rob_p> consolers: Did you happen to install ssh server package on that box?  If so, you could access it that way, from another machine.
[12:41] <JoelR> there is one called xorg.conf.failsafe
[12:41] <ikonia> consolers: ok - has xorg ever worked, nor ever worked from the start
[12:41] <bouma> giday, can someone recommend an easy dbs that is well supported under ubuntu, also with first class support through a console. i've a very small simple need, but want to learn a bit more about such things under linux. i know sql and could draw a schema, just beginner level...
[12:41] <ikonia> JoelR: that's not he same file
[12:41] <ikonia> JoelR: what video card do you have
[12:41] <consolers> ikonia, it worked once at this point I just want to get a login prompt, without X ever running
[12:42] <ikonia> bouma: mysql or postgres
[12:42] <consolers> ikonia i just want runlevel 2 without X
[12:42] <ikonia> consolers: when you boot the machine, what do you get ?
[12:42] <JoelR> lspcvi -v tells me: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[12:42] <JoelR> if i do a xrandr -s <my resolution> then it's fine.
[12:42] <ikonia> JoelR: ok - so in theory, you should not need an xorg.conf, what happens when you try to use X
[12:42] <JoelR> but i have to set it up manually
[12:42] <ikonia> JoelR: is it just a resolution problem, nothing more
[12:43] <bouma> ikonia: i'll do a bit of reading about both, might ask another question or two later.
[12:43] <adam61> i justed downloaded ubuntu 11.04 onto a 4Gb usb. i want to install it onto another computer that just has windows on it, and windows won't load. i want to install it on that computer from usb so that i can recover my windows files; how do i do this without overwriting windows? do i just go ahead and install it by reordering the boot priority in BIOS? or is that already risking overwriting? sorry i'm very new to this
[12:43] <JoelR> ikonia, aham... but how do i avoid to be typing xrandr every time i boot up?
[12:43] <consolers> ikonia  i get nothing on tty1 except some diagnostics. on tty8 i get syslog. on tty7 i get what X should be which isnt there. all etc/init/tty[1-6] look fine
[12:44] <consolers> ikonia even when X worked, i couldnt chvt 1 and get a prompt
[12:44] <consolers> ikonia if i remember correctly
[12:44] <adam61> p.s. i'm running ubuntu 8 from livecd on the 'broken' computer
[12:44] <ikonia> JoelR: is the resolution you want listed in the display / resolution manager tool
[12:44] <JoelR> ikonia, it doesn't work when i do it from there.
[12:44] <praveen> consolers, i have found something in ubuntu documentation i hope it will help-https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[12:44] <ikonia> JoelR: is the reoslution you want listed there
[12:45] <ikonia> consolers: what video card is this on ?
[12:45] <JoelR> ikonia, i mean, when i go to "System -> Preferences -> Monitors" and choose the resolution that i want there, it test it for a few seconds but it's not well visualized, but if i do it from the xrandr tool then it works :S
[12:45] <ikonia> JoelR: but the resolution you want is listed there ?
[12:46] <consolers> thx praveen, i've been through that i think
[12:46] <rileyp> hello
[12:46] <consolers> ikonia --- vbox card, ati radeon, etc
[12:46] <ikonia> consolers: ok - so it's not an ati card for vbox
[12:46] <JoelR> ikonia, yes
[12:46] <ikonia> JoelR: so detection is correct it's the application. you may need to create an xorg.conf file and force the resolution,
[12:47] <consolers> no ati card for vbox. i've tried passsing nomodesetting as kernel param etv
[12:47] <ikonia> consolers: what happens when you try to boot it in single user mode
[12:47] <consolers> surely a login prompt should work even if x cannot startup, because it still video card still prints syslog messaages!
[12:47] <JoelR> wtf!?
[12:47] <JoelR> how do i do that?
[12:47] <consolers> ikonia let me try again in vbox
[12:47] <ikonia> JoelR: control the language
[12:48] <ikonia> consolers: no - not if Xorg has hung,
[12:48] <praveen> JoelR, scroll down in this page and you will find how to set resolution permanently--https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[12:49] <adam61> first time installing ubuntu, can anyone give me a hand, i'm afraid of overwriting windows
[12:49] <ikonia> adam61: what part ar eyou not clear on
[12:49] <[A]ddicted> hi,  i'm on 2.6.35-23-generic ubuntu what kernel source version do i need for module developpement ( so that i get no more 'Invalid module format' message)
[12:49] <JoelR> praveen, there they say to execute this: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and it doesn't work. It doesn't show anything to me
[12:49] <jimrew> hi i want to know how to make a distro like pinguy os how do i do that?
[12:49] <ikonia> jimrew: offtopic for this channel
[12:49] <neo3> guys, what is better for me x86_64 or x86_32? I have 3GB Ram and modern cpu
[12:50] <adam61> i have the iso on usb, i'm just not sure if i can go ahead and install it without risking (at that point) losing my windows files
[12:50] <consolers> ikonia : i chose recoverymode. again i get no prompt. I can Alt-F<n> to virtual console<n> but get no prompt
[12:50] <iostream> adam61: you will be presented with the option "Install beside Wintendo 7" or whatever
[12:50] <sunit_> I am trying to write a shell script in which a commad will run for 2 minute , then go to sleep for 10 minutes and then again run for 2 minutes. What shall be the format of that script and where shall I put that script ?
[12:50] <ikonia> neo3: won't make a difference either way in realism
[12:50] <robin0800> praveen, please leave spaces before https so the links can be clicked
[12:50] <sipior> neo3: you'll want a 64-bit install.
[12:50] <adam61> i'm running ubuntu 8 live cd and it doesn't recognize windows files
[12:50] <JoelR> ¿?
[12:50] <ikonia> sunit_: command; sleep 600; command; sleep 600
[12:50] <adam61> so i was told to get a more recent version of ubuntu
[12:50] <iostream> ¡!
[12:50] <iostream> adam61: ubuntu 8?
[12:51] <adam61> ya on cd
[12:51] <iostream> 11.04 ir the latest version
[12:51] <adam61> i have 11.04 on usb now
[12:51] <rewalsar> upgrade manager is not prompting to upgrade from cd what to do?
[12:51] <iostream> 8 is from 2008 :)
[12:51] <praveen> ok robin0800, sorry for that!!!
[12:51] <adam61> is it safe to go ahead and install it?
[12:51] <consolers> ikonia: on tty1 again i get what you get if you hit ESC in the beige ubuntu screen, on tty7 last message is fsck, tty8 is for syslog
[12:51] <iostream> adam61: it is, yes
[12:51] <adam61> i just need to reorder the Bios boot priority, correct? i don't need to do all that renaming and stuff do i?
[12:52] <ikonia> consolers: it's not fscking your disk is it (that can take a file)
[12:52] <ikonia> while
[12:52] <consolers> no, fsck is clean
[12:52] <iostream> adam61: you don't have to reorder anything
[12:52] <ikonia> consolers: edit the grub boot line to append the word "single" on the end, tell me what happens
[12:52] <sunit_> ikonia: please clarify
[12:52] <consolers> ikonia this is with `single'
[12:52] <ikonia> consolers: I thought you said that was using recovery mode
[12:52] <bouma> ikonia: do you use either? have you used sqLight ?
[12:52] <consolers> i've compiled a lot of radeon kernels and know some issues with radeon.
[12:52] <ikonia> bouma: I use both and I have used sqllight
[12:52] <consolers> recovery mode has `single'
[12:53] <ikonia> consolers: it's not just single though
[12:53] <JoelR> ok this is stupid
[12:53] <consolers> ikonia  i've tried it with root= and single, i'll try again
[12:54] <bouma> ikonia: do you have a personal preference?
[12:54] <consolers> no actually recovery mode is just ro single
[12:54] <consolers> ikonia  so it'll be the same
[12:54] <ikonia> consolers: don't do it then
[12:54] <consolers> ikonia somewhere in the init process its starting X
[12:54] <ikonia> bouma: depends on what I'm doing
[12:54] <consolers> ikonia dont do what??
[12:54] <ikonia> consolers: that is expected
[12:54] <[A]ddicted>  i'm on 2.6.35-23-generic ubuntu what kernel source version do i need for module developpement ( so that i get no more 'Invalid module format' message)
[12:55] <ikonia> consolers: x will run at level 2 so xorg is expected to run
[12:55] <consolers> ikonia i need to stop X from starting and get a terminal prompt
[12:55] <ikonia> consolers: boot from a livecd and disable the gdm script
[12:55] <consolers> ikonia what do i need to do for that? i can mount the partition and edit fles
[12:55] <consolers> ikonia i removed gdm from etc/init and tried.
[12:55] <ikonia> consolers: just move the gdm script for a dirty fix, that way you can boot the box normally and fix it
[12:55] <ikonia> consolers: it's controlled by upstart now
[12:56] <CarlFK> consolers: doesn't recovery mode give you a text menu ?
[12:56] <consolers> ikonia i removed gdm from etc/init/ which is upstart and tried.
[12:56] <consolers> so X will not start now?
[12:56] <consolers> but i still get the flumoxxed behaviour
[12:56] <praveen> joelR, are you able to edit xorg.conf file in vi or gedit as it is mentioned in below lines???
[12:56] <consolers> then video mode changes at some other point (not when X starts) which screws things up
[12:56] <ikonia> consolers: read the init script, I don't think upstart is calling it from there any more, gdm is now fully ported to upstart (I think)
[12:57] <bouma> ikonia: for a couple of simple applications. recording, analysis of measurements, not huge amounts of data. and for a database of a media library, still <100k items.
[12:57] <consolers> which script ?
[12:57] <consolers> gdm's init script?
[12:57] <JoelR> praveen, i shouldn't be editing anything since it was working, and this stupid "upgrade" broke my system config.
[12:57] <ikonia> bouma: depends what you like, try them
[12:57] <consolers> i removed that
[12:57] <ikonia> both are fine
[12:57] <rcconf> MBR
[12:57] <ikonia> consolers: you've not, you've removed the one in init
[12:57] <bouma> ikonia: fair enough
[12:58] <consolers> ikonia what should i be looking at
[12:58] <ikonia> consolers: I haven't got an ubuntu box here to hand to walk you through it,
[12:58] <consolers> i made sure etc/rc2.d is empty
[12:59] <consolers> i made sure nothing in etc/init references X
[12:59] <ikonia> it doesn't run from there
[12:59] <ikonia> read up on upstart
[12:59] <iceroot> is there an easy way to send a mail from cli with an attachment? (csv-file?) without using mutt? i want to have a cronjob which is sending a file (e.g. with mailx)
[12:59] <consolers> i've read up on upstart, docs dont match filesystem
[12:59] <hellyeah> hey
[12:59] <ikonia> look at some of the non-ported and fully ported init script
[12:59] <jrib> consolers: why are you removing init scripts?
[12:59] <hellyeah> can you suggest an ide for doing apache php mysql job in one place
[12:59] <consolers> jrib to try to get a login prompt
[12:59] <consolers> jrib to understand how upstart works?
[13:00] <consolers> jrib can you grep logs for my woes above?
[13:00] <jrib> consolers: ctrl-alt-f1 will get you a login prompt
[13:00] <consolers> jrib its not happening since X was flummoxered
[13:00] <erry> Uuh guys
[13:00] <rumpe1> consolers, just put "text" at the end of the kernel-line in grub
[13:00] <erry> http://i54.tinypic.com/11hrocm.png
[13:00] <jrib> consolers: what?
[13:01] <consolers> jrib some modesetting is screwing up ah. let me try `text'
[13:01] <CarlFK> iceroot: if you have any programming skills, you might want to look at writing a 10 line python script
[13:01] <sssstavr> nice
[13:01] <erry> i cant delete the file either..
[13:01] <ikonia> elgar: what file system is it on ?
[13:02] <jrib> consolers: did you get a login prompt when you pressed ctrl-alt-f1 /before/ "X was flummoxered"?
[13:02] <erry> D:
[13:02] <ikonia> oops
[13:02] <ikonia> erry: what file system is this on
[13:02] <consolers> jrib, after i installed i dont believe i ever saw a login prompt. though i was able to login to X a few times via gdm
[13:02] <zniavre> hello
[13:03] <consolers> i'm talking of the installation, not the livecd
[13:03] <zniavre> just trying unity-2d and it seems that panel and menu items are not themed  http://i.imgur.com/ZTgL0.png
[13:03] <jrib> consolers: so you aren't sure, or it never worked? (it = ctrl-alt-f1 displaying a text login)
[13:03] <erry> ikonia, that usb is fat32 :p
[13:03] <zniavre> any workaround for that please ?
[13:03] <consolers> jrib, even when X was running, the times i chvt 1, i dont think i saw a prompt
[13:03] <jrib> consolers: use recovery mode to fix your X issue
[13:04] <ikonia> erry: whats the problem when you try to remove it ?
[13:04] <erry> ikonia, fwiw i find files like that around the main filesystem too at times but those are 0 bytes
[13:04] <robin0800> zniavre, no not yet
[13:04] <erry> ikonia, it says read-only file system
[13:04] <consolers> jrib as i noted recoverymode has the same issue
[13:04] <ikonia> erry: ok, so it's mounted read only, re-mount it read write
[13:04] <llutz_> iceroot: http://www.unix.com/50494-post4.html
[13:04] <consolers> rumpe1 FTR: text didnt help either.
[13:04] <robin0800> consolers, is that the grub recovery mode?
[13:04] <consolers> robin0800 yes
[13:04] <jrib> consolers: what happens exactly when you select recovery mode?
[13:05] <consolers> jrib, ive already mentioned in scrollback
[13:05] <zniavre> robin0800,  ok   :o(
[13:05] <jrib> good luck with your issue...
[13:05] <erry> ikonia, it becomes read-only when i attempt to delete it
[13:05] <ikonia> erry: is the file system currently mounted read/write ?
[13:05] <consolers> i just want to ensure i get a login prompt.
[13:05] <NisargS> i was planning to reinstall(fresh) ubuntu, and also planned to increase memory. so, in windows, i erased all data of the partitions. and restarted. Now i get a grub error. i havent installed ubuntu yet, will that solve my problem. what if i dont want grub at all (only windows in the future)
[13:05] <erry> ikonia, it's mounted read-write, when i attempt to delete that file it becomes read-only
[13:05] <erry> i can remove other files.
[13:06] <consolers> i can C-A-F<1> to F<n> and i've described what i'm seeing in tty1 tty7 tty8
[13:06] <erry> but not after removing that one.
[13:06] <consolers> there is no login prompt though
[13:06] <robin0800> consolers, when you get to the menu the run level is too low to run X
[13:06] <ikonia> erry: do "ls -la" on it from a terminal
[13:06] <ikonia> erry: it maybe an orphaned file, or disk corruption
[13:06] <erry> ikonia, uhh wt-
[13:06] <erry> um
[13:06] <consolers> robin0800 it doesnt get to the run level. i just want a dumb terminal
[13:06] <erry> do u want the output of that
[13:06] <ikonia> erry: worth a look
[13:06] <consolers> even that isnt working
[13:07] <erry> ikonia,  you sure?
[13:07] <consolers> this looks worse than a mac without a console login!
[13:07] <LetsGo67> Ubuntu 11.04 has lots of problems!  They keep deleting my dock configuration!  Please help me, this is really frustrating!  :@
[13:07] <robin0800> consolers, grub recovery can do that
[13:07] <ikonia> erry: it's worth a look, yes
[13:07] <tutuca> hello
[13:07] <NisargS> i get grub error after deleting a ubuntu partition and all data and at restart? what to do?
[13:07] <DirtyDawg> they?
[13:07] <erry> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/5KC05Ns2
[13:08] <telmich> good evening
[13:08] <Holden> Hi.
[13:08] <ikonia> erry: disk problem, or usb controller problem, look at the input/output errors
[13:08] <consolers> robin0800, BTW i had  force grub2  install. it said it had to use blocklists and blocklists were deprecated. i didnt understand wtf that was
[13:08] <iceroot> llutz_: that is (imo) not an attachment, its just the content from the file inline in the mail
[13:08] <erry> ikonia, seems like my system has been learning greek panaese and korean judging from that :p
[13:08] <telmich> how to use the ddeb packages in ubuntu? i'm interested in the kernel with debugging symbols
[13:08] <tutuca> I have a hp g42 that won't boot, and halts in recovery mode. It passes the memtest. Is there a way to get into filesafeX directly?
[13:08] <iceroot> llutz_: ah sorry bad eyes :)
[13:08] <NisargS> can anyone help me with grub problem?
[13:09] <consolers> that was on a vbox mbr. the installation is on a real partition
[13:09] <consolers> i also tried booting with grub1 and explicit cmdline and get the same symptoms
[13:09] <LetsGo67> !ubuntu bugs
[13:09] <erry> ikonia, kern.log has May 10 15:07:25 Mewtwo kernel: [19556.945839] FAT: Filesystem error (dev sdc1)
[13:09] <erry> May 10 15:07:25 Mewtwo kernel: [19556.945840]     invalid access to FAT (entry 0x4017f408)
[13:09] <consolers> somewhere in the bootup procerss some modesetting is going on which shouldnt be happening
[13:09] <NisargS> i deleted the ubuntu partition and everything with it, why do i get GRUB error on booting???
[13:10] <llutz_> NisargS: that ubuntu was holding the grub files, reinstall grub from a different installation
[13:10] <[TK]D-Fender> NisargS: because GRUB sits in the boot sector, not in a partition
[13:10] <NisargS> but there should be no grub
[13:10] <NisargS> then how do i start windows?
[13:10] <erry> ikonia, what can i do to fix it?
[13:10] <[TK]D-Fender> nightwish: the bootloader is int he first sector of your drive, not in a partition
[13:10] <llutz_> NisargS: rewrite MBR from win-cd
[13:10] <[TK]D-Fender> NisargS: ^^
[13:10] <ikonia> no idea, erry if it's file sytem related, try to fsck it, but that looks suspiciously like hardware
[13:11]  * consolers trashes the ubuntu kernel and compiles his own
[13:11] <NisargS> okay, so i want to install 11.04 now, by just installing htat, wil it solve my problem?
[13:11] <consolers> without modesetting!
[13:11] <erry> ikonia, should i format it?
[13:11] <ikonia> erry: up to you
[13:11] <llutz_> NisargS: the installer will write a new grub into mbr, so yes
[13:11] <erry> looks like i need to :p
[13:11] <NisargS> cool/
[13:11] <adam61> i just tried to install ubuntu 11.04 and it said "disk is not bootable". what's the next step if this happens?
[13:12] <adam61> (from usb)
[13:12] <kemo006> Hello ! My gwibber notify me unread messages even when there isn't. What can I do?
[13:12] <NisargS> i also had a problem with scrolling in my vaio, has that been solved, (i heard it happens with all vaios)
[13:13] <NisargS> and are there any problems with ATI graphic drivers and 11.04. they worked really well with 10.10, but on 11.04, they are actually causing lags in the graphics that too just the desktop graphic and effects
[13:13] <erry> ikonia, btw when i plug my laptop into an HDMI cable and I want both image and sound to go to the TV, only image goeds to the TV but sound stays in laptop. No other output device available, any ideas
[13:13] <rileyp> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab  is this a problem?
[13:13] <rileyp> just mounted a new drive
[13:13] <adam61> anyone know how to make the usb with ubuntu iso bootable?
[13:14] <ikonia> erry: you need to look if your hdmi controller supports both sound and video under linux, not all do
[13:14] <NisargS> adam61: what os are you currently using?
[13:14] <erry> ikonia, it supports it if i do it through windows
[13:14] <adam61> i'm running ubuntu8 from cd
[13:14] <llutz_> rileyp: just add an "enter" to your fstab.
[13:14] <ikonia> erry: I didn't say through windows, I said through linux
[13:14] <erry> ah ok
[13:15] <erry> ikonia, another thing.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737360
[13:15] <LetsGo67> Hey people, 11.04 will not let me use more than one screen!   Can someone help me please?  i wanna use two screens!
[13:15] <erry> sorry for tiring you :p
[13:15] <NisargS> adam61: so you want to make it bootable from the live disk?
[13:15] <NisargS> adam61: any installed OS?
[13:15] <adam61> i wanted to boot it from the usb so i could install 11.04
[13:16] <LetsGo67> People please!  i asked for a Windows refund!
[13:16] <takamarou> Hi all.  I have a desktop running Windows 7 x64, and I just installed ubuntu 11.04 as a dual boot.  I, for some reason, am not getting a grub menu when I boot.  I've tried a bunch of different combinations with both left and right shift keys with no luck...  any ideas?
[13:16] <NisargS> Can anyone tell me how to solve the scrolling problem on VAIO laptops?
[13:17] <NisargS> i cant scroll using hte touch pad
[13:17] <Hukka> LetsGo67: What video driver are you using?
[13:17] <takamarou> LetsGo67, what is happening with your screens?  Is it mirroring?  Or not showing the second monitor at all?
[13:18] <adam61> NisargS, i have windows 7 but it won't load, on the computer that i'm trying to install ubuntu 11 from usb (really new to this)
[13:18] <NisargS> adam61: yes, i am looking on the net right now for an answer (i am new too, but i think i will try)
[13:18] <rileyp> llutz you mean at end of last line hit enter
[13:18] <Dazzled> Ubuntu shows a green screen on resume
[13:18] <x012_kool> hi there, im trying to install from git, im executing the command git clone http://gnuradio.org/git/gnuradio.git
[13:18] <rileyp> and then save thanks
[13:18] <adam61> thank you very much!
[13:18] <Dazzled> how can I fix this
[13:19] <llutz_> rileyp: exyct
[13:19] <llutz_> a
[13:19] <rileyp> thx
[13:19] <x012_kool> what am i doing wrong guys ? the command console stays "congelated" waiting for more commands
[13:19] <x012_kool> im a little bit lost...
[13:19] <mathews> takamarou: did u installed using a normal cd ?
[13:19] <Skywolf76> Hello, can someone help me with nfs? My client times out when trying to mount
[13:19] <Dazzled> if I boot into console Ctrl Alt F2, and then back to Ctrl Alt F7, I sometimes get to see some jumbled parts of my background
[13:19] <Dazzled> so I guess it's a video issue
[13:19] <NisargS> problems with ATI drivers on 11.04?
[13:19] <LetsGo67> Hukka: proprietary ATI.  takamarou:  Says something about maximum virtual resolution.  Black screen, unless i mirror.
[13:19] <NisargS> anyone?
[13:19] <Dazzled> and I have an NVIDIA card
[13:20] <Hukka> LetsGo67: Monitor sizes?
[13:20] <sipior> x012_kool: once you've cloned the source code repository, you'll need to build the program using the included instructions.
[13:20] <Dazzled> !qthread
[13:20] <Dazzled> woops
[13:20] <x012_kool> sipior, maybe i have to wait to clon the code repository ?
[13:20] <omfgitsasalmon> Hi, I need help with setting up pure-ftpd, can anyone help?
[13:20] <sipior> x012_kool: why?
[13:21] <x012_kool> let me show you
[13:21] <mathews> Dazzled: try run the additional driver
[13:21] <sipior> x012_kool: perhaps it would be easiest if you used a pastebin to show the commands you typed, and the result.
[13:21] <omfgitsasalmon> Anyone?
[13:21] <x012_kool> ok
[13:21] <sipior> !paste > x012_kool
[13:22] <x012_kool> sipior, http://pastebin.com/PcsQTqBX
[13:22] <LetsGo67> Hukka: 720p for laptop, 1280 x 1024 for 19 inch 4:3.
[13:23] <erry> gah
[13:23] <sipior> x012_kool: that looks right. did it not work?
[13:23] <erry> ikonia, i just rebooted my pc and got another of those crashes
[13:23] <Hukka> LetsGo67: Hm, shouldn't be a problem in hw. Don't know if the ati driver has some stupid limits
[13:23] <x012_kool> sipior, should i put all this commands?
[13:23] <erry> it's starting to get annoying
[13:23] <Hukka> LetsGo67: I mean even old hw should support virtual screens up to 4096x4096
[13:23] <x012_kool> sipior, i put the first one and i get the response: Initialized empty Git repository in /home/mario/gnuradio/.git/
[13:23] <Hukka> LetsGo67: Might be a good idea to ask somewhere specific to the ati driver
[13:23] <LarsTorbenn> hi
[13:23] <Dazzled> it says, this driver is activated, but not in use
[13:24] <Hukka> LetsGo67: Personnaly I've used ATI only once (at work), and it was so horrible I've avoided it ever since
[13:24] <Hukka> LetsGo67: I know it doesn't help you, but I just mean I don't know much about them :/
[13:24] <sipior> x012_kool: i'm guessing you mis-typed that command; double-check it.
[13:25] <adam61> i'm trying to install ubuntu 11 from usb, but when i boot it, it says disk is not bootable. anyone know how to fix this?
[13:25] <adam61> just the iso is on there..
[13:25] <dnivra> hello. I recently set a password accidently to the root account and would like to reset it. I checked the /etc/passwd and it still says x in the password field. could someone tell me how to reset the root password so that it doesn't exist anymore and the root account is locked?
[13:25] <x012_kool> sipior,  it seems it works!! the problem was that i had to wait to clone or download something
[13:26] <mathews> adam61: how u create it
[13:26] <LetsGo67> Hukka: But this is a 2011 laptop!
[13:26] <sipior> dnivra: you'll notice that all the accounts have an "x" in the password field in /etc/passwd :-)
[13:26] <froes> hi guys.. help .... my alsa has stopped working ... at least gnome says it has no audio
[13:26] <Hukka> LetsGo67: Yeah, I doubt it's a hw problem. But ATI makes rather bad drivers for linux
[13:26] <x012_kool> sipior, thank you very much for your time.
[13:26] <mathews> adam61: how did u create it?
[13:27] <sipior> x012_kool: sure, no trouble.
[13:27] <Hukka> LetsGo67: The error message just sounds like it is not capable of showing that wide virtual screen
[13:27] <whs> hello
[13:27] <takamarou> mathews, yes.  Just downloaded the ISO last week.
[13:27] <blackbit> Why there is no /var/log/messages in 11.04?
[13:27] <sipior> dnivra: try "sudo passwd -l" if you're concerned that a password is still set.
[13:27] <LetsGo67> Hukka: Yeah, the thing is it has HDMI, AMD Premium, etc.
[13:28] <Guest7584> how to install an application with ubuntu
[13:28] <takamarou> LetsGo67, in your display configuration, what resolution do you have it set to?
[13:28] <dnivra> sipior: cool! thanks!
[13:28] <adam61> mathews, thank you, i'm new to this chat, not sure if you got my reply
[13:28] <ikonia> LetsGo67: the connector has nothing to do with your video cards capabilities
[13:28] <x012_kool> sipior, just one last question, where should i look for "usual" commands in ubuntu, i'd like to know the meaning of ./   ./bootstrap and so on...
[13:28] <mathews> takamarou: I mean did u use a rewritable cd or not
[13:28] <takamarou> mathews, nope.  Just a regular CD
[13:28] <Guest7584> nobody?
[13:28] <hovefirse> Hi folks. My wireless connections goes down on a regular basis - seems to be a bug in the driver. Therefore I'd like to have a cron-script that regularly tests for a working connection, and then either restarts the net-connection or reboots the computer. Any model scripts out there?
[13:28] <mathews> adam61: I can read ur
[13:29] <LetsGo67> takamarou: 1366 x 768.
[13:29] <takamarou> LetsGo67, is that the lowest option available?
[13:29] <mathews> takamarou: u press and hold the left shift key.right?
[13:29] <Guest7584> a o
[13:29] <sipior> x012_kool: ./bootstrap isn't a linux command per se, just a script to set up the autotools infrastructure needed for the rest of the build.
[13:29] <takamarou> mathews, I've pressed and held every shift key I can find (obviously, each one on a different boot), with no luck.
[13:30] <LetsGo67> takamarou: Highest.
[13:30] <LetsGo67> ikonia: It should.
[13:30] <ikonia> LetsGo67: why should it ?
[13:31] <takamarou> LetsGo67,  Try dropping it down to the lowest.  Purely for debugging purposes - at least then we will know if it is hardware or software that isn't working.
[13:31] <Guest7584> nobody to answer me?
[13:31] <takamarou> LetsGo67, Also, do you know what aspect ratio your monitor is?  16:9?
[13:32] <farid> hi
[13:32] <xiaoshen> hi all^
[13:32] <xiaoshen> i just intalled natty server
[13:32] <aaaaalex> Guest:Most likely you will find the application the Ubuntu's Software center
[13:33] <xiaoshen> there is no hosts file in /etc
[13:33] <xiaoshen> is it normal?
[13:33] <mathews> takamarou: the grub menu should show on start up if u have more than one OS,but I am not sure about which OS u started after the Ubuntu installation
[13:33] <An_Ony_Moose> xiaoshen: no
[13:33] <LetsGo67> takamarou: one 16:9, one 4:3.
[13:33] <xiaoshen> An_Ony_Moose:  so its not norma?
[13:33] <takamarou> mathews, it automatically boots into Win7.  No grub, no nothin'.  Just POST and WIn7
[13:33] <xiaoshen> normal?
[13:33] <xiaoshen> but i just installed it
[13:34] <xiaoshen> so is still fresh
[13:34] <takamarou> LetsGo67, which is the one that isn't working?
[13:34] <An_Ony_Moose> xiaoshen: no, it's not normal. there is usually one.
[13:34] <mathews> takamarou: normally Ubuntu comes on the top of the menu,if windows started ip automatically,then there is problem during installation
[13:34] <erry> anybody got an idea about http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1737360
[13:34] <LetsGo67> Takamarou: The 4:3 one.
[13:35] <xiaoshen> well ican  see hostname , host, host id
[13:35] <xiaoshen> hostid
[13:35] <takamarou> mathews, right.  I've installed about 10 times now with the same results each time, and no error displays during installation.  Any tips for debugging?
[13:35] <aaaaalex> Guest: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-install.html
[13:35] <en1gma> sup all
[13:36] <xiaoshen> An_Ony_Moose:  how to seardh hosts in terminal?
[13:36] <xiaoshen> using find?
[13:36] <takamarou> LetsGo67, here is a list of common resolutions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_resolutions  try and set your monitor to the lowest 4:3 available on that list.  If that doesn't work, try a couple higher... if not, then we've got a bigger problem.
[13:36] <studentz> erry the kernel is not 11.04  what is the result of uname -a?
[13:36] <An_Ony_Moose> xiaoshen: if it's not there, it's probably not anywhere
[13:36] <erry> studentz, Linux Mewtwo 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 07:54:58 UTC 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[13:37] <studentz> erry did you upgrade or a fresh install?
[13:37] <erry> studentz, upgrade
[13:37] <mathews> takamarou: just google it and try pls
[13:37] <xiaoshen> hmm
[13:37] <en1gma> i have windows 7 on a 80GB ssd and i have a 16GB usb 3.0 flash drive that i install ubuntu 11.04 to.....problem is my motherboard can not boot to the usb 3.0 port....its not recognized on boot.....what i was wondering is.....can i put a small partition on the win7 drive like with /boot.....and that would be good enough to see the usb 3.0 drive with / so i can get my full speed?
[13:37] <consolers> still no login prompt
[13:37] <studentz> eery are you in GUI or terminal
[13:38] <LetsGo67> Tellus me it needs to restart.  This is messed up.
[13:38] <erry> studentz, gui
[13:38] <takamarou> mathews, naturally I did research before coming here...
[13:38] <mathews> en1gma: did u change the boot order
[13:38] <takamarou> LetsGo67, it's telling you to restart after changing your resolution?  Or did you just install a driver?
[13:38] <consolers> its not modesetting i'm sure its some upstart bug thats not putting up the gettys
[13:38] <xiaoshen> An_Ony_Moose: what is the function of host , and hostid files?
[13:38] <studentz> erry open a terminal and type  sudo update-grub
[13:38] <consolers> can i disable upstart somehow and rely only on sysvinit?
[13:38] <en1gma> yea it dont matter when i hit F11 only the ssd and dvd rom show up in boot options
[13:39] <en1gma> usb 3.0 port is not seen on boot with this board
[13:39] <erry> studentz, what does grub have to do with it
[13:39] <mathews> takamarou: there is option for grub recovery,I have seen it somewhere but not memory
[13:39] <consolers> whenever i can look at it /etc/initctl => fake script
[13:39] <consolers> whenever i can look at it /sbin/initctl => fake script
[13:40] <consolers> which isnt the case in the livecd
[13:40] <studentz> erry it will run several scripts and will order the vmzlinux
[13:40] <erry> ok
[13:40] <consolers> who messes with that initctl ?
[13:40] <erry> now if my grub dies... :p
[13:40] <mathews> en1gma: so ur system cannot be boot from a usb
[13:40] <en1gma> what part of linux do i need to install on the windows 7 drive so i can continue to boot ubuntu on the usb stick
[13:40] <An_Ony_Moose> xiaoshen: it allocates default DNS entries; when a hostname is looked up the kernel will first look in /etc/hosts, then ask a DNS server
[13:40] <en1gma> it can boot from all my usb 2.0 ports
[13:40] <iomari> greetings, is this the proper channel to get help on multicd?
[13:41] <studentz> erry in other words you updated your box to natty, but is still running with the old kernel
[13:41] <garfield> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to encrypt the swap partition under ubuntu by adding "/dev/* swap swap encrypted 0 0" to the fstab?
[13:41] <takamarou> Bah, does anyone know how to get my grub menu to display?  I've got Win7 x64 and Ubuntu 11.04 x64 - computer boots straight into Win7, without ever showing grub.  Ideas?
[13:41] <erry> studentz, i ran upgrade-grub and still have an option for 2.3.32-23 only
[13:41] <studentz> erry the kernel of natty is   2.6.38-8-generic
[13:41] <xiaoshen>  An_Ony_Moose: it's empty by default? host and hostid?
[13:41] <LetsGo67> The stupid dock won't move out of the way!  :@
[13:41] <erry> studentz, altho grub-update said it found 38-8
[13:41] <mathews> en1gma: ur system has to recognize a bootable USb
[13:41] <en1gma> it does
[13:42] <cybervolfe> can u tell me any free web hosting sites withnphp support
[13:42] <studentz> erry  now did you install burg?
[13:42] <en1gma> i just said if i plug the stick into the usb 2.0 ports it boots fine (is recognized in boot options when i press F11) but if i move that stick to my USB 3.0 Port it will not see it
[13:42] <Pici> cybervolfe: thats not on-topic for this channel. Try #web perhaps
[13:42] <erry> studentz, i ran upgrade-grub as you requested
[13:43] <LetsGo67> People (esp. Pici) mirrored screens work so far.
[13:43] <erry> studentz, it said it found a newer kernel but still wont let me boot to it
[13:43] <studentz> erry now restart your box
[13:43] <erry> studentz, i did, the option isnt there
[13:43] <NoXzema> Does the FGLRX driver work with latest 11.04?
[13:43] <en1gma> mathews, do you know what i mean
[13:43] <studentz> erry in a terminal type sudo reboot
[13:44] <erry> studentz, i did reboot
[13:44] <mathews> takamarou: see this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[13:44] <LetsGo67> Okay, people.  Dual screen works now!  It's neat!  :D
[13:44] <erry> studentz, problem is it still wont let me boot into the new kernel
[13:44] <cybervolfe> hey anyone there?
[13:44] <studentz> erry tell what happens
[13:44] <takamarou> mathews, I've tried that.  Also, I installed ubuntu after win7, so windows never would have had a chance to wipe it ou
[13:45] <mathews> takamarou: no no thats not correct coz I had experience myself
[13:46] <McPeter> Sp4rKy, :)
[13:46] <Timmmm> Hi, I've set up a VPN to connect to work, but when I use it *everything* goes through the VPN. How do I set it so that only connections to work use the VPN?
[13:46] <studentz> eery are you in gui  or terminal?
[13:46] <Pici> cybervolfe: yes. I just told you that this channel is for Ubuntu support only. Random web hosting questions belong elsewhere, #web or #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps
[13:46] <en1gma> does anyone understand what i am trying to do? i am trying to use my usb 3.0 stick in a usb 3.0 port that is not recognized at boot.....i think /boot needs to go on my windows 7 drive so it can tell there is a usb 3.0 stick plugged in so it can continue to boot it
[13:46] <mathews> en1gma: Y u trying USB 3.0 if u it working in 2.0
[13:46] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[13:46] <truncatedTree> hello, I need to resize a qemu2 file (the primary partition) that I manage through virsh using KVM. What is the best method to do this? Thanks.
[13:46] <en1gma> that drive is really slow in usb 2.0 with an ubuntu hd install
[13:47] <en1gma> i mean like 4MB/s write
[13:47] <en1gma> 12MB/s read
[13:47] <en1gma> if im in usb 3.0 mode its quite a bit faster
[13:47] <CarlFK> truncatedTree: ask in #qemu on irc.oftc.net
[13:47] <froes> hi guys.. help .... my alsa has stopped working ... at least gnome says it has no audio
[13:47] <erry> studentz, uhhh
[13:47] <mathews> en1gma: u see windows never allows to boot from USB...u leave that but see Ubuntu has its own way to
[13:47] <erry> networkings gone
[13:47] <erry> DL
[13:47] <erry> D:*
[13:47] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <studentz> erry result of uname -a
[13:47] <cybervolfe> ok thanks
[13:48] <cybervolfe> another questiion?
[13:48] <consolers> phew* fixed. mv initctl.REAL initctl
[13:48] <truncatedTree> carlfk, thanks
[13:48] <en1gma> this has nothing to do with windows.....if i press F11 at boot.....the usb 3.0 stick does not show up when its in a usb 3.0 port
[13:48] <consolers> now i get a login prompt
[13:48] <erry> studentz, 32-23
[13:48] <Garfio> holaaaaaaaaaa
[13:48] <xiaoshen>  An_Ony_Moose: is there text based package manager in natty?
[13:48] <en1gma> i need to get part of the kernel to load so it can see the usb 3.0 stick in a usb 3.0 port
[13:48] <Garfio> alguien de españa?
[13:48] <Pici> !es | Garfio
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> !es
[13:49] <llutz_> en1gma: that means either your usb-stick isn't bootable or your usb-3 port doesn't support booting from it.
[13:49] <en1gma> and cont to boot from the stick
[13:49] <studentz> erry did you install another bootloader like burg before? I use burg by the way
[13:49] <erry> studentz, no i use grub
[13:49] <en1gma> i have been saying from the very beginning my board does not support booting from the usb 3.0 port
[13:49] <mathews> en1gma: u post this in www.askubuntu.com and see any response
[13:49] <xiaoshen> iis there text based package manager in natty?
[13:49] <erry> studentz, i think i had re-installed grub though cause i had messed it up :)
[13:50] <Pici> xiaoshen: apt-get
[13:50] <cybervolfe> i am using dell studio laptop and how to implement the touchpad rotaion,double scrolling options provided by windows in ubuntu
[13:50] <en1gma> im asking here....this isnt a big question....what part of the linux FS has to go on my windows 7 drive so i can continue to boot the usb stick
[13:50] <en1gma> i think its /boot isnt it
[13:50] <mathews> en1gma: u r saying both by yourself
[13:50] <usr13> en1gma: grub
[13:51] <en1gma> if i put grub on my windows 7 drive and i select boot linux it will see my usb 3.0 drive in a usb 3.0 port?
[13:51] <usr13> en1gma: You may need to re-phrase your question.
[13:51] <erry> studentz, grub wont read my menu.lst
[13:51] <studentz> erry that is another story
[13:51] <usr13> !grub2 | erry
[13:51] <Pici> erry: grub2 doesn't use menu.lst
[13:52] <aaaaalex> xiaoshen: aptitude
[13:52] <erry> Pici, then what file is it
[13:52] <usr13> en1gma: Not sure what the usb drive has to do with booting.  (Unless you are tying to boot from a USB flash drive.)
[13:52] <whs_> hello i'am back!!!!!!!!!!!1
[13:52] <Pici> erry: /etc/default/grub among others.  The links from ubottu should help more.
[13:52] <hovefirse> Hello folks. My /etc/cron.hourly - directory is empty. I'd like to place a script there (that runs every hour, yeah). What should I do in order to make it work (except for copying the script to said directory)?
[13:53] <xiaoshen>  aaaaalex: thank you i just figure it out :)
[13:53] <en1gma> my mboard does not support booting from the usb 3.0 port....ex: if i hit F11 to get into boot options on boot....it does not see any device in the usb 3.0 port
[13:53] <en1gma> i am trying to boot from a usb 3.0 flash drive in my usb 3.0 port
[13:53] <Pici> en1gma: So what do you want Ubuntu to do to fix that?
[13:53] <aaaaalex> :)
[13:53] <usr13> hovefirse: crontab -e
[13:53] <whs_> This is the first time I use linux
[13:53] <sipior> en1gma: if it's not supported, it's not supported.
[13:53] <en1gma> it needs to load part of the kernel so it can see my usb drive in my usb port
[13:53] <en1gma> omg
[13:54] <aaaaalex> whs_ Welcome to the free world
[13:54] <Drake|> :)
[13:54] <sipior> en1gma: then you're not booting off the stick anymore.
[13:54] <whs_> Could anybody tell me how to install a software ?
[13:54] <en1gma> ok
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> erry: I don't mean to but in here, but, one of the pics. you put in your forum question indicated a kernel-panic. If it is a kernel-panic that may mean something is very seriously wrong. You may need to back up data and do a fresh install.
[13:54] <en1gma> this is getting crazy
[13:54] <aaaaalex> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-install.html
[13:54] <aaaaalex> whs_: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-install.html
[13:54] <usr13> en1gma: I'm not sure we can do anyting about your bios.  But if you do some research and find an update for your particular bios chip, that may help.
[13:55] <cybervolfe> hey
[13:55] <llutz_> en1gma: do you want to install ubuntu TO or FROM usb?
[13:55] <sipior> en1gma: how about just using a stick that your motherboard can boot from?
[13:55] <en1gma> i have said like 20x i need my usb 3.0 flash drive in my usb 3.0 port to run ubuntu....my mboard does not see my stick on boot....how can i achieve this
[13:55] <hovefirse> usr13: No automagic way of running everything in that particular directory?
[13:55] <CarlFK> en1gma: I get what you are trying to do: bios boots grub from internal drive, grub then boots linux from usb3 disk.  I have trouble getting a 2nd drive to boot without running the ubuntu installer
[13:55] <Drake|> Hello. anyone familiar with the ncftp client?
[13:55] <mathews> en1gma: a boot and a read r both different
[13:55] <en1gma> i use live cd to install ubuntu SIDE by SIDE to the usb stick
[13:55] <en1gma> then i want to read from the usb 3.0 stick at usb 3.0 speeds
[13:56] <usr13> hovefirse: Well, yes, I'm sure there is... Could you give a little more detail.
[13:56] <aaaaalex> whs_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:56] <usr13> hovefirse: You want to run these commands at boot time?  Is that it?
[13:56] <en1gma> car1fk is correct
[13:56] <mathews> en1gma: u r talking about impossible things
[13:56] <erry> i thnk i found the new kernel :)
[13:56] <erry> I edited my config to have it
[13:57] <usr13> hovefirse: Or do you want to run them each hour?
[13:57] <en1gma> carlfk is right with what i want
[13:57] <erry> if it doesnt load i'll scream :3
[13:57] <whs_> I mean install a software myself.
[13:57] <en1gma> its not even close to impossible
[13:57] <en1gma> this is what linux is all about
[13:57] <erry> what is the diff btwn -pae
[13:57] <sipior> en1gma: so why not just do that? what's the problem here? install grub to a disk partition and configure as needed.
[13:57] <whs_> aaaaalex
[13:57] <erry> and no -pae?
[13:57] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[13:58] <studentz> erry in grub 2 you can only edit a few files, the other are the result of scrip in runtime
[13:58] <en1gma> i wasnt sure what needed to be installed.....i thought /boot needed to be on the internal drive
[13:58] <Pici> !pae | erry
[13:58] <llutz_> en1gma: put your /boot on a bootable drive, make sure your initrd contains all to read/write usb-3
[13:58] <erry> Ah
[13:58] <en1gma> is all that needs to be on the internal drive is grub?
[13:58] <erry> well i got the new kernel but there's no gui?
[13:58] <Drake|> whs_: depends on what kind of software you want to install
[13:58] <studentz> erry anywat try to reboot again
[13:58] <erry> studentz, i got the new 1 but no gui
[13:58] <aaaaalex> whs_: What do you mean by installing a software yourself? Do you have a .deb package of the program you want?
[13:58] <en1gma> llutz i think is more correct on what to install on the windows 7 ssd
[13:58] <siva> Hi all
[13:59] <whs_> yes
[13:59] <erry> guys uhh bad news
[13:59] <erry> x-server segfaults
[13:59] <en1gma> but maybe its just gruib that needs to be installed
[13:59] <studentz> erry first result uname -a
[13:59] <CarlFK> en1gma:  I think a problem: the kernel you use to setup grub may assign the partition a different /dev/sdX X.  what may help: use e2label to lable the fs on the usb stick. may help grub find it.
[13:59] <erry> studentz, x-server is segfaulting and wont start
[13:59] <erry> studentz, 38-8-generic-pae
[13:59] <sipior> en1gma: put the whole /boot on the internal disk. it's only 100 MB or so.
[13:59] <Drake|> whs_:  just doubbleclick on you deb file and install it with package manager
[13:59] <whs_> For example i want to install apache ,what shall i do?
[13:59] <usr13> en1gma: Are you wanting to install grub in the MBR of the primary HD?  Is that it?
[14:00] <studentz> eery good you have the kernel but your server has problems
[14:00] <erry> studentz, yeah it has
[14:00] <en1gma> im not sure what i need to install to be able to get it to boot the usb 3.0 flash drive....is it grub or is it /boot
[14:00] <erry> well that's ok i have the old kernels still
[14:00] <erry> it works fine in the old kernels
[14:00] <studentz> type sudo gdm stop
[14:01] <hovefirse> usr13: Every hour. I have to check for a working net-connection, u c.
[14:01] <erry> studentz, it works without -pae
[14:01] <sipior> en1gma: you need to have booted the kernel already to read from the usb 3 drive.
[14:01] <llutz_> en1gma: your ssd should hold grub + /boot and the usb-3 drive holds /. i
[14:01] <usr13> hovefirse: So do you have some sort of script that will do what you want to do?
[14:01] <aaaaalex> whs_, Open the software center and search for apache. Maybe you can find a hither degree of control as to what to install if you use Synaptic (a more detailed view of what is avaiable) instead of the software center
[14:01] <hovefirse> usr13: I had the impression that the cron.hourly-directory serves a special function, used by anacron.
[14:01] <usr13> hovefirse: Or are you wanting to write one?
[14:01] <hovefirse> usr13: Oh yeah, it's there already
[14:02] <hovefirse> I just want to run it every hour
[14:02] <usr13> hovefirse: Just set up a crontab entry for it.
[14:02] <en1gma> ok thats good so when i boot the ubuntu live cd "try ubuntu" and i select install....do i do side by side or do i do custom...im betting custom probably
[14:02] <erry> studentz, so is there something wrong with -pae?
[14:02] <studentz> erry do you remember the video card model
[14:02] <erry> studentz, i can get it
[14:03] <erry> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]
[14:03] <en1gma> will ubuntu let me install the bootloader to the mbr of the ssd on my windows 7 partition....i think i got an error once
[14:03] <xiaoshen> bye all
[14:03] <studentz> erry lspci | grep VGA
[14:03] <hovefirse> usr13: Yep, but I was curious about the cron.hourly-directory. How that works. the cron-thingy I can manage, I'm interested in anacron and the particular directory I mentioned.
[14:03] <erry> studentz, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670]
[14:03] <whs_> a  o ,it does not work.
[14:04] <studentz> erry sorry i use nvidia no expert with ATI
[14:04] <aaaaalex> whs_, just saw that apache is not in the software center as it mostly contains desktop apps. Please open synaptic package manager and search for apache. You will find it all there.
[14:04] <studentz> erry this is the idea, the upgrade also upgrade the driver of your video card
[14:04] <erry> studentz, ok..?
[14:04] <studentz> erry and messed it
[14:05] <usr13> hovefirse: I don't know either, (have only used crontab).  (.... reading man anacron )
[14:05] <erry> studentz, x-server brings a segmentation fault only when i boot into -pae   
[14:05] <aaaaalex> whs_ or from the comand line: sudo apt-get install apache2
[14:05] <studentz> eery the idea is to open an xserver as different user
[14:05] <erry> studentz, tried as root
[14:05] <en1gma> when i choose to install the bootloader does it go in /dev/sda or does it go /dev/sda1
[14:05] <en1gma> i think /dev/sda buit i not sure
[14:05] <studentz> erray I had the same problem like you last year but with nvidia
[14:05] <rileyp> sda is best
[14:06] <en1gma> ok thanks
[14:06] <en1gma> i going to retry and see what happens
[14:06] <rileyp> all other locations cause issues when grub apdates and you accidnetally hit yes
[14:06] <studentz> erry we need to kill all xserver and login as different user
[14:06] <llutz_> hovefirse: just copy your script to /etc/cron.hourly and make sure its name contains no extension. it will be executed using run-parts
[14:06] <compdoc> en1gma, devices can change when you add a new drive. Its best not to depend of sda, sdb, etc.
[14:06] <erry> studentz, it's not running, it doesn't start
[14:07] <Guest31345> hi
[14:07] <Guest31345> i have some video play back prob
[14:07] <Guest31345> it freezes
[14:07] <hovefirse> llutz_: Thx, will so do. Do I need to copy the 0anacron-file from the cron.daily-dir as well?
[14:07] <lunavorax_mini> Hi everyone !
[14:08] <yuskhanzab> hi
[14:08] <llutz_> hovefirse: no need
[14:08] <en1gma> i mean if my drive is /dev/sda   and it has /dev/sda1 = ntfs and i make a small /dev/sda2 = ext3 for /boot i would put the bootloader at /dev/sda ?
[14:08] <lunavorax_mini> I installed 11.04 x64 and I use btrfs for my home partition, but so far I don't understand how can I enable the zlib compression for it. Can someone help me with that ?
[14:08] <llutz_> en1gma: /dev/sda in that case is MBR, so yes
[14:08] <usr13> hovefirse: Now reading anacrontab ....
[14:08] <hovefirse> llutz_: OK. Does it serve *any* purpose, or is it just for show?
[14:08] <en1gma> ok thanks for all the help everyone
[14:08] <en1gma> i gonna try it out
[14:08] <en1gma> bbiab aand will let you knoiw what happens
[14:08] <erry> i think i should reinstall
[14:09] <erry> :(
[14:09] <erry> again lol
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> !codecs > Guest31345
[14:09] <llutz_> hovefirse: ? you'll need grub or any other bootmanager in the MBR to manage your dual-boot
[14:09] <studentz> erry result of ps -ef | grep "X :0"
[14:09] <yuskhanzab> is there any software like macromedia flash/adobe flash in ubuntu?
[14:09] <yuskhanzab> anyone?
[14:09] <hovefirse> llutz_: No dual-boot here - just anacron and cron.hourly!
[14:09] <Guest31345> sorry rsend it
[14:10] <yuskhanzab> i want to make a flash file using ubuntu
[14:10] <llutz_> hovefirse: sry wrong nick, wasn't for you
[14:10] <hovefirse> llutz_: Np! Tough to keep all those balls in the air :)
[14:12] <Guest31345> i m having video playing problem on ubuntu
[14:12] <Guest31345> can anybody help ?
[14:12] <Guest31345> after few seconds videos and audio freezes
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> !codecs
[14:13] <whs_> It's really easy to install a software with Software Center
[14:13] <freshmilk> what does the @ mean?
[14:13] <freshmilk> -rwx------@ 1 work  staff   11264 10 May 14:09 Thumbs.db
[14:13] <whs_> but I don't like it.
[14:13] <whs_> I like to install a software with commands.
[14:13] <izinucs> studentz: isn't "X" gone with unity? or is that in the next release?
[14:13] <Drake|> you can
[14:13] <Drake|> from the terminal you can install everything whs_
[14:14] <sipior> izinucs: no, X is still there.
[14:14] <izinucs> sipior: when does it go away? ie wayland
[14:14] <studentz> izinucs  canonical is planing to implement wayland in the future but for now ubuntu runs X
[14:15] <NoXzema> I'm searching for development packages. Is there a guide anywhere?
[14:15] <sipior> izinucs: i imagine that will depend on how long it takes them to get it working with some semblance of stability.
[14:15] <sipior> izinucs: i don't believe there's a firm timeline.
[14:15] <izinucs> NoXzema: load synaptic package manager not software center.
[14:16] <NoXzema> izinucs, okay. Thank you.
[14:16] <izinucs> sipior: that might be a show stopper for those that rely on what X can provide.  If wayland can't that is.
[14:16] <hwolff> Hello, I have trouble with NFS: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/386311/. Can someone help me?
[14:16] <usr13> hovefirse: Seems like just regular crontab entries would be easier..... But I dono...
[14:18] <ayrton_> hello in ubuntu 11.04, i can find and connect to a wireless internet but after 5 minutes of surfing the web, the internet just stops working, its not the hotspot cause other laptops keep working, any ideas?
[14:18] <ayrton_> it doesnt disconnects
[14:19] <froes> hi guys... i am getting this error :** (gnome-volume-control:6491): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...Home directory /home/froes not ours.
[14:19] <usr13> ayrton_: What wifi card do you have?
[14:20] <usr13> ayrton_: lspci |grep ireless
[14:20] <ayrton_> its a dell so i guess broadcam?
[14:20] <usr13> ayrton_: lspci |grep ireless | pastebinit   #Or just put it here.
[14:21] <LetsGo67> Bonne journée!
[14:22] <acegiak> guys, my 10.10 server just started haning on the blinking cursor of frustration after grub. It WAS working perfectly fine, nothing I can think of has changed. What can I do to get more information about what's failing from the system?
[14:22] <whs_> Is anybody use pidgin?
[14:22] <usr13> ayrton_: When you look at the network manager, (when it has disconnected), what does it say?  Does it say that the network has been dissabled?
[14:22] <usr13> whs_: Yes
[14:22] <whs_> a  o
[14:22] <Drake|> whs_:  yes  :p
[14:22] <acegiak> s/haning/hanging/
[14:23] <whs_> I have a problem with it.
[14:23] <usr13> ayrton_: lspci | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL here. Or just put the output of  lspci |grep ireless   here.
[14:23] <ayrton_> 0c:00.0 network controller: intel corporation pro/wireless 3945abg [golan] network connection (rev 02) usr13
[14:24] <hasenj> anyone having problems with flash today? it's becoming "invisible" for me
[14:24] <ayrton_> and no it says connected
[14:24] <studentz> hasnej same booot in chromium
[14:24] <rblst> can anyone please tell me how to switch to consol mode in ubuntu when run as a VirtualBox guest?
[14:25] <hasenj> yea flash is working in chrome
[14:25] <llutz_> rblst: sudo chvt 1
[14:25] <studentz> hansej but not all time.
[14:25] <AceKing> I have a laptop that will not bootup into 11.04. It is dual booting with Windows 7 and goes into Windows fine. If I try to boot into Ubuntu, instead of the login screen there is a thin white bar across the top. I figured it was the graphics driver so I tried to boot into recovery. It starts to go saying: "Loading Linux 2.6.32-5-genric-pae... Loading initial ramdisk..."  it freezes and I get the same thin line across the top.
[14:26] <usr13> ayrton_: I see conversation about that chip but not solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619428
[14:27] <usr13> ayrton_: You might try running wicd
[14:27] <usr13> ayrton_: sudo apt-get install wicd ; sudo apt-get remove network-manager   #And then log out and back in again.
[14:28] <AceKing> Anyone have any ideas on what I posted above?
[14:29] <Cas07> when i try to hibernate with my laptop on Natty the screen blanks then returns to my desktop, any ideas how to resolve as I cannot see any errors in the logs
[14:29] <usr13> AceKing: What video chip is in it?
[14:29] <LetsGo67> A lot of times Unity gets in my way.  It won't hide.  i can't see what i type.  Help me chase it please!
[14:30] <AceKing> usr13, I'm unsure.. I can look it up on the net to find out.
[14:30] <llutz_> Cas07: nothing in /var/log/pm-powersave.log?
[14:30] <usr13> AceKing: Well, you can try to reconfigure xorg.
[14:30] <studentz> AceKing you should try to boor in single mode
[14:31] <AceKing> usr13, how do I reconfigure xorg. LiveCD?
[14:31] <AceKing> studentz, boot into single mode?
[14:31] <usr13> AceKing: Does the liveCD boot up and look ok?
[14:31] <AceKing> usr13, yes
[14:31] <studentz> AceKing  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   look for Editing Menus During Boot
[14:32] <ayrton_> usr13 ok im trying it
[14:32] <AceKing> studentz, Ok
[14:32] <sagaci> in ubuntu 11.04, alt+tab functionality works but it doesn't display the names of the windows below, just the window pictures
[14:32] <Cas07> llutz_ i can post the logs, gimme a sec
[14:32] <LetsGo67> A lot of times Unity gets in my way.  It won't hide.  i can't see what i type.  Help me chase it please!
[14:33] <usr13> AceKing: Just boot it up until you get that screen you can't do anyting with and then do  Ctrl-Alt-F6  and login.
[14:33] <llutz_> Cas07: run" sudo pm-hibernate" in a term an watch for errors.
[14:33] <usr13> AceKing: Once you're logged in do:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:33] <Cas07> k
[14:33] <AceKing> usr13, Ok, I'm going to try that right now
[14:34] <usr13> AceKing: After that, do:   /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:35] <usr13> AceKing: Let us know if it works.
[14:35] <tux__> will M$ kill the linux version or skype now that they bought it today?
[14:35] <tux__> s/or/of
[14:35] <llutz_> tux__: ask ms, not here
[14:35] <tux__> llutz, i was told you'd know
[14:35] <LetsGo67> Yo people why can't the dock move out of the way please?
[14:35] <adam61> when installing ubuntu 11.04 onto my computer that only has a 'broken' windows 7 os, in the 'Allocate drive space' step, it said "This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?" how can i access my windows files (trying to save my mp3s), does anyone know?"
[14:35] <Pici> tux__: We're discussing it in #ubuntu-offtopic right now.
[14:35] <tux__> Pici, thx
[14:36] <x012_kool> sipior, but, where could i find "the most typical" commands ans scripts ? any web ?
[14:36] <usr13> adam61: Well, not sure what has happened.  You might try the LiveCD and see what you have.
[14:36] <R3dy> Is there a way to set up the encrypted LVM post-installation?
[14:36] <adam61> usr13, i have the ubuntu 8 live cd, will that work?
[14:37] <usr13> adam61: Sure.
[14:37] <sipior> x012_kool: might be best to start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[14:37] <liamjt__> register inyefvaivAt9
[14:37] <LetsGo67> The dock is in the way people help me please!
[14:37] <adam61> i just created a startup usb with ubuntu 11 after the startup cd didn't recognize windows and i thought it was because it was too old of a version
[14:38] <ayrton_> usr13 ok i did and it finds the internet but doesnt connect
[14:38] <adam61> now ubuntu 11 doesn't recognize it either
[14:38] <AceKing> usr13, hitting ctrl-alt-f6 just made the line across the top a little smaller
[14:39] <adam61> is there a way to access these windows files and copy them to an external storage device, without installing ubuntu and therefore overwriting windows?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:39] <usr13> adam61: Ctrl-Alt-F5
[14:39] <Cas07> llutz: there were no errors running pm-hibernate
[14:39] <tux__> anyone prefer natty over meerkat?
[14:39] <aeon-ltd> tux__: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:39] <x012_kool> ok sipior, again, thanks a lot!
[14:39] <tux__> aeon-ltd, no
[14:40] <usr13> adam61: yes
[14:40] <usr13> adam61: You should be able to do it from the LiveCD
[14:40] <BluesKaj> !OS
[14:40] <ayrton_> usr13
[14:40] <studentz> AceKing  restart and hold down the SHIFT key as the computer attempts to boot to display the GRUB 2 menu
[14:40] <ayrton_> ?
[14:40] <adam61> can i do it from the ubuntu 11 that i'm currently running without having installed?
[14:41] <basman1> hi
[14:41] <AceKing> studentz, I am at the grub 2 menu now
[14:41] <usr13> AceKing: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[14:41] <AceKing> usr13, at the grub menu?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> tux__, why not try a livecd  of natty and see for yourself
[14:41] <adam61> i don't know the commands, i'm very new; how would i access those windows files?
[14:41] <tux__> BluesKaj, i did it's muck
[14:42] <usr13> ayrton_: Did you switch to wicd?
[14:42] <ayrton_> yes
[14:42] <Treffynnon> I am using SQLYog under WINE in Natty, which used to work fine in Meerkat. Now the cursor graphic and the actual pointer have gone out of sync. For example clicking on the tree view expands the item 3 rows up rather than the one the cursor graphic is over! Any ideas?
[14:42] <ayrton_> but it wont cconnect to the hotspot
[14:42] <usr13> AceKing: No, after it boots.
[14:42] <studentz> usr13 look like he is stock  in the grub menu
[14:43] <studentz> usr13 and after trying to boot nothing happended
[14:43] <usr13> ayrton_: Did you click on the wicd icon and view available wifi networks?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> then why did you ask , if you already know , tux__ , and this is the last time I'll speak to you about it
[14:43] <adam61> usr, how would i access the windows files if i'm running an uninstalled version of ubuntu 11? will i need to be running from the cd instead?
[14:43] <Cube``> how can i limit mutt to download only the last 100 mails from imap?
[14:43] <ayrton_> yes and i press connect and it trys to
[14:43] <AceKing> usr13, I tried that. The thin line at the top gets thinner, and I can't see anything
[14:43] <studentz> usr13 so I think trying to boot in single user mode to get a terminal
[14:44] <ayrton_> and it looks like it does , but it still says not connected at the bottem and i have no iternet
[14:44] <Master69> Helo guys
[14:44] <tux__> BluesKaj, read my question again
[14:44] <kodax> hello can anyone help me in rebuilding the apt dependency tree?
[14:44] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[14:44] <kodax> it got screwed up really bad in the last upgrade
[14:44] <usr13> AceKing: So, are you just in the grub menu?
[14:44] <ayrton_> usr13 ^
[14:45] <AceKing> usr13, yes I'm there now
[14:45] <simon_PL> is it possible to get Gnome back on Natty?
[14:46] <adam61> usr13, sorry, i know you're very busy; can anyone tell me how to access windows files to copy them to an external drive
[14:46] <studentz> AceKing press c key
[14:46] <usr13> AceKing: Does it say "loading initial ramdisk"  before freezing on this screen your telling us about?
[14:46] <Homely_Girl> How do I get my volume control, you know the lil speaker, into my sys tray??
[14:46] <kodax> also i don't have my gnome panels anymore
[14:46] <Homely_Girl> I'm using Maverick 10.10
[14:47] <kodax> like date/time, dropbox, skype...
[14:47] <kodax> (using natty)
[14:47] <AceKing> studentz, I pressed c
[14:47] <rblst> llutz, thanks i never knew about this nifty command
[14:47] <AceKing> usr13, only if I try to go into recovery
[14:47] <studentz> now you are in grub terminal
[14:47] <xmaz> guys, what ftp client do you use for accessing web files?
[14:47] <usr13> adam61: Mount the partition and plug in a thumb drive and copy the files over.
[14:47] <AceKing> studentz, prompt says grub>
[14:47] <studentz> now type ls and post the result
[14:47] <Cas07> xmaz: filezilla is a great ftp gui
[14:48] <usr13> ayrton_: It trys to connect but fails?  If so, what error does it   give?
[14:48] <adam61> usr13, thank you; stupid question: how do i mount the partition?
[14:48] <xmaz> Cas07: also if i use my ubuntu only throught the console?
[14:49] <adam61> in gparted it says there's just one partition and it's completely unallocated
[14:49] <ayrton_> no error usr13
[14:49] <mnemoc> hi, how can one mount/umount from command line is the way the UI does? (getting /media/foo created and deleted automatically and as the user)
[14:49] <Master69> Guys I need to ask a question how do you get ubuntu onto your laptops?
[14:50] <mcl0vin_> !svn
[14:50] <rumpe1> Master69, usb-stick
[14:50] <Cas07> xmaz: i used to use gftp
[14:50] <compdoc> adam61, unallocated? that doesnt sound good
[14:50] <Cas07> xmaz: not sure if anything better these days
[14:50] <ceed^> Hi, is it possible to remove that mail icon from Unuity's notification area? I'm not using Evolution so I do not need it.
[14:50] <usr13> adam61: If you don't see any GUI for it, go to a terminal and first type   sudo fdisk -l   to see where the partitions are so that you can dermine which one will contain the mp3s you are wanting.  Then, (once you've discovered which partition it is), mount it with command:  sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt  And then   cd /mnt  and start looking for them.  ls
[14:50] <froes> hi guys... my gnome-volume-control does not work, neither does my volume -applet
[14:51] <AceKing> studentz, (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5)  (hd0,msdos3)  (hd0,msdos2)  (hd0,msdos1)  (hd1)  (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1)
[14:51] <froes> any ideas?
[14:51] <BluesKaj> !install | Master69
[14:51] <adam61> usr13, thank you very much! i'll try that
[14:51] <Master69> rumpel: How big will it be?
[14:51] <adam61> compdoc, i'm crossing my fingers
[14:51] <usr13> adam61: Once you find them plug in the USB device and see where it is mounted to and then use the  cp  command to copy them over.  But if you find a GUI UI for it, I'm sure you will find it easier.
[14:51] <Master69> Where do I get gft?
[14:52] <ayrton_> usr13 it just doesnt connect, finds the internet just doesnt log on, and it doesnt give an error
[14:52] <LetsGo67> hey people can you help me configure the Unity dock please?
[14:52] <usr13> ayrton_: Are you talking about the browser not loggin in?  ?
[14:52] <Guest163> anyone know the repo's for additional compiz plugins?
[14:52] <ayrton_> what ?
[14:52] <rumpe1> Master69, the finished system right aber install? ... around 3GB i guess
[14:53] <usr13> ayrton_: Or are you saying that the wireless interface does not associate with the access point?
[14:53] <ayrton_> i open it find linksys press connect
[14:53] <ayrton_> and at the end it says done connecting, but im still disconnected and no internet
[14:53] <usr13> ayrton_: Is "linksys" the essid of the access point that you are wanting to connect to?
[14:53] <ayrton_> yes
[14:54] <adam61> usr13, i'm very sorry if this is a mess, but can you make sense of this? Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80032038912 bytes
[14:54] <adam61> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9730 cylinders
[14:54] <adam61> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[14:54] <adam61> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[14:54] <adam61> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[14:54] <FloodBot1> adam61: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <adam61> Disk identifier: 0x48f1cadc
[14:54] <AceKing> studentz, BTW, the graphics card is ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 4250
[14:54] <Master69> Around 3gb? Rumpel okay i think that is quite pleasing, but where can I get it? On the internet as well or what? rumpel
[14:55] <usr13> ayrton_: It is probably some probem with the wifi interface.  See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619428
[14:55] <usr13> ayrton_: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[14:55] <ayrton_> 11.04
[14:56] <novoid> I have Debian Sqeeze with /home mounted as encrypted luks. Am I able to install 11.04 and switch to my encrypted /home afterwards by simply editing /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab?
[14:56] <jackneill> cs
[14:56] <jackneill> tudtok segíteni?
[14:56] <golu> how do i kill all notifications on the panel
[14:56] <Guest163> anyone know the repo's for additional compiz plugins?
[14:56] <simon_PL> AK47 is a good choice
[14:57] <mib_mib> how do i add a command to be run when the server starts, and specify it be run as a specific user?
[14:57] <adam61> usr13, how do i tell if they are on partition 1 or 2?
[14:57] <mneptok> mib_mib: use init or Upstart
[14:57] <mib_mib> mneptok: from the command line
[14:57] <golu> simon_PL -  i cant afford one so just looking for a command
[14:58] <mneptok> mib_mib: you should start by researching SysV init and Upstart
[14:58] <Master69> rumpel: do you know where I can download unbuntu to get it onto my drive?
[14:58] <Crawhak> hi anyone
[14:58] <mneptok> Master69: http://ubuntu.com
[14:58] <Crawhak> hmm how can i install exe app
[14:58] <mib_mib> mneptok: i thought i could put in like rc.local or something like that
[14:58] <golu> I drag and dropped mp3 files in totem player... but totem player could not find the mp3 files
[14:59] <AceKing> studentz, did the results I typed in make any sense?
[14:59] <froes> hi guys... i am trying to start my sound ... but gnome-volume-control gives me the error http://pastebin.com/mnzA5t5K
[14:59] <golu> so it is showing no path found notification of all the songs in the panel
[14:59] <pksadiq> !Wine
[14:59] <ayrton_> usr13 that wasnt any help
[14:59] <golu> so how do i rempve them
[14:59] <mneptok> mib_mib: like i said, do some research on init.d and Upstart. those are the system initialization tools that handle starting services.
[14:59] <golu> remove them
[14:59] <LetsGo67> Dock dock dock, how do i configure the dock dock dock please people dock?
[15:00] <techcrisis> would anyone know how to get application to load to particular desktops on startup?
[15:00] <adam61> does anyone know how to decipher the output from sudo fdisk -l?
[15:01] <aeon-ltd> adam61: go to pastebin post its output, ask the channel again
[15:01] <Master69> thank you mneprtok
[15:01] <LetsGo67> How do you hide the dock?
[15:01] <Cas07> aeon-ltd: damn you beat me to it... althought i think dpaste is better :
[15:01] <Cas07> :P
[15:02] <adam61> aeon-ltd, thanks, not quite sure what that means though lol i'm a newbee
[15:02] <Cas07> adam61: got http://dpaste.com
[15:02] <mneptok> !pastebin | adam61
[15:02] <LetsGo67> How do you make the Dock hide when the mouse is not on it?
[15:03] <mneptok> !repeat | LetsGo67
[15:03] <Master69> later
[15:03] <ayrton_> can i downgrade to the network-manager used in 10.10? in 11.04
[15:03] <Roasted> I went to install XFCE on my Ubuntu 11.04 system. I got a message - "If you install Xubuntu-desktop, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?" I do NOT want to interfere with my Ubuntu/Unity setup. Will installing XFCE do anything?
[15:03] <Cas07> LetsGo67: Open Compiz Config then Unity plugin
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> LetsGo67, Guess he told you :-)
[15:03] <abhinav_singh> i am having a brand new laptop..i wanna install ubuntu 11.04 on it..it has 500 gb hard disk..i want 3 parrtitions on it..how much space should i keep for home and root and how much swap space should i use
[15:03] <maniakss> cze
[15:04] <maniakss> hi
[15:04] <maniakss> where are the repositories for Natty Ubuntu?
[15:04] <AceKing> usr13, is there something I can edit in the grub menu to make it boot correctly?
[15:05] <adam61> does anyone know how to tell which partition your files are on after doing sudo fdisk -l?
[15:05] <ikonia> adam61: how many disks do you have ?
[15:05] <mneptok> adam61: try "df -h" and pastebin the output
[15:05] <compdoc> what does fdisk -l show? use pastebin.com
[15:05] <adam61> ikonia, just one
[15:05] <adam61> mneptok, thanks
[15:05] <ikonia> adam61: so sudo fdisk -l will only show one disk
[15:06] <adam61> ikonia, i think so, it's hard to tell
[15:06] <adam61> mneptok, what does 'pastebin the output' mean?
[15:07] <mneptok> adam61: out the output of that command on pastebin
[15:07] <mneptok> *put the
[15:07] <Antwon> hello. I tried to change the screen resolution for boot menu, I was following the tutorial on omgubuntu and now when I log into ubuntu, my resolution is only 1024x768 and I can
[15:07] <Cas07> adam61: copy and paste to the link he posted.....
[15:07] <a1cypher1> I'm having a strange issue with apt-get in my kubuntu install.   For whatever reason, every package it tries to get fails because it puts a blank space between the server address and the path to the updates and causes it to 404 on everything.   Anybody have an idea how to fix this?
[15:07] <compdoc> means you go to patebin.com and paste it all there and give use the url
[15:07] <Antwon> cant change it to my default resolution any more
[15:07] <compdoc> *give us
[15:07] <abhinav_singh> any donut for me
[15:07] <adam61> ok thanks i'll do that
[15:09] <adam61> mneptok: http://dpaste.com/540738/  is that right?
[15:09] <compdoc> adam61, good job
[15:09] <mneptok> adam61: it is. is Ubuntu installed to the disk in question?
[15:10] <adam61> no, haven't installed ubuntu yet because i'm afraid it will overwrite windows
[15:10] <a1cypher1> anybody have any ideas how to fix apt  ?
[15:10] <Bigvjc> hi
[15:10] <mneptok> adam61: it will
[15:10] <adam61> compdoc, thanks
[15:10] <abhinav_singh> i am having a brand new laptop..i wanna install ubuntu 11.04 on it..it has 500 gb hard disk..i want 3 parrtitions on it..how much space should i keep for home and root and how much swap space should i use
[15:10] <mneptok> adam61: what version of Windows?
[15:10] <adam61> mneptok, it was windows 7
[15:10] <Bigvjc> need help android google app maker
[15:11] <mneptok> adam61: was? or is?
[15:11] <adam61> well it got a virus and now won't load
[15:11] <adam61> so is i guess
[15:11] <compdoc> adam61, those are all very small partitions. how big is the drive for windows?
[15:11] <xmaz> Bigvjc: think you should ask that in #android
[15:11] <novoid> I have Debian Sqeeze with /home mounted as encrypted luks. Am I able to install 11.04 and switch to my encrypted /home afterwards by simply editing /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab?
[15:11] <elementz> tach allerseits. kennt sich jemand von euch gut mit vim aus? ich kann pötzlich kein ö mehr im insert modus eingeben. unter vim springt er einfach zurück in den normalen modus, unter gvim bekomme ich die meldung "this filetype is currently _not_supported_". was kann das sein? ein plugin? sonstwas?
[15:11] <adam61> it's an 80 gb hard drive, just one
[15:11] <LetsGo67>  Cas07 ccsm setting do not work!
[15:11] <yoshie> Need help please, ubuntu frezzing during insallation, never had this problem before new release.
[15:11] <mib_mib> mneptok: so can i just put files in /etc/rc.local and it will work? in that it says 'in order to enable this script just change the execution bits' -- what are the execution bits?
[15:11] <adam61> i think my friend partitioned it a number of times or somtehing
[15:11] <elementz> oh sorry. wrong channel
[15:12] <Cas07> LetsGo67: what do you mean it wont work?
[15:12] <NoXzema> Why does the ubuntu-desktop need to be uninstalled for xubuntu-desktop?
[15:12] <NoXzema> I figured we could have multiple DEs?
[15:12] <adam61> mneptok, i know all of my files are on just one partition, i just don't know which. can you tell?
[15:13] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else use pidgin with skype on 11.04?
[15:13] <mneptok> compdoc: "df -h" will not display unmounted volumes, so adam61's 80GB hard disk does not appear in its output
[15:13] <escott> adam61, were you the guy who had the gpt partition table? if so make sure to mention that to mneptok
[15:13] <wcrucius> I am trying to set up a low-power server which runs from compact-flash.  To eliminate CF wearout, I just want to reduce cache flush drastically.  I've done this easily in the past, but now in natty I can't get pm-utils removed (apt-get remove pm-utils wants to remove a bunch of other core stuff like gdm and ubuntu-desktop).  Any suggestions?
[15:13] <adam61> escott, yes that was me!
[15:13] <mneptok> adam61: now "ls /dev/sda*"
[15:13] <adam61> mneptok, ok thanks
[15:14] <escott> adam61, have you heard from the LUG? they might be able to give you a newer install disk
[15:14] <ayrton_> usr13: i switched back to network-manager and i connect and have internet, but it drops after 5 minutes
[15:14] <adam61> mneptok: http://dpaste.com/540742/
[15:14] <ayrton_> and if i reconnect i have internet for only 5 minutes again
[15:14] <adam61> escott, haven't tried that yet, but i will if this doesn't work
[15:15] <NoXzema> Man Pidgin still has major problems just like 3 years ago :/
[15:16] <NoXzema> Is that project abandoned?
[15:16] <mneptok> adam61: so what you want to do is use Ubuntu to suck files off a broken Windows installation?
[15:16] <Pici> NoXzema: No, its still being developed.
[15:16] <adam61> mneptok, yes i think that's pretty much it
[15:16] <NoXzema> Anyways, I was wondering why we can't have multiple DEs?
[15:16] <mib_mib> if i need to run a command from the command line (logged in as ROOT) as a different user, how do i do that (without switching to that user)
[15:17] <mneptok> NoXzema: wait until you see the problems Linux users have with Skype in 6 months. ;/
[15:17] <adam61> i just don't want to lose my 50 gb of mp3s
[15:17] <crond> NoXzema, sure you can. I have Unity, Classic, and XFCE.
[15:17] <Pici> NoXzema: It shouldn't be an issue, but anyway, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, removing it doesn't remove the rest of Ubuntu.
[15:17] <thiebaude> mneptok: i heard about that
[15:17] <arand> mib_mib: sudo I would guess
[15:17] <ayrton_> does any1 know why this happens? its annoying
[15:17] <Tetsuo55> how do i force close the unity launcher? its staying open
[15:17] <NoXzema> Pici, so, removing the package doesn't remove Unity?
[15:17] <Pici> NoXzema: Correct.
[15:17] <NoXzema> Ic ...
[15:18] <new_kid1>  NoXzema:  What about skype....please explain
[15:18] <crond> NoXzema, you can sudo apt-get remove unity, worked for me, YMMV, don't blame me if your box eats you.4
[15:18] <wcrucius> NE1?
[15:18] <mib_mib> arand: does that just run it as root?
[15:18] <Roasted> I installed XFCE on my 11.04 netbook. While I want XFCE to be an option, I do not want the XFCE login screen. How can I change it?
[15:18] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: what do you want instead?
[15:18] <NoXzema> new_kid1, I don't have a problem with skype. I have a major problem with Pidgin.
[15:18] <Roasted> aeon-ltd, the default 11.04 login screen
[15:18] <arand> mib_mib: lokk at the man page.
[15:19] <Pici> Roasted: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[15:19] <adam61> escott, i succeeded in created a bootable usb drive with ubuntu 11, but gparted still wouldn't recognize my windows files
[15:19] <aeon-ltd> Roasted: unisntall the xfce login manager, install gdm - the default gnome login manager
[15:19]  * ceed^ wonders if Microsoft will maintain the Linux version of Skype...
[15:19] <new_kid1>  NoXzema: Oh.......okay
[15:19] <escott> adam61, hmmm thats weird
[15:19] <mneptok> adam61: "sudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /media/windows"
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ceed^, yeah was wondering that as well
[15:20] <NoXzema> Out of honesty though, I don't particularly like Skype for many reasons.
[15:20] <Silly> What is this windows installer thing I see on the ubuntu web page? Is it something similar to sygwin, where it runs a nix environment under windows or is it just an automated way of setting up a dual boot?
[15:20] <xmaz> ceed^: they will probably stop supporting it :P
[15:20] <Silly> cygwin
[15:20] <adam61> mneptok, ok thx i did that
[15:20] <mneptok> adam61: that will mount the second partition of your internal disk (the first one is probably a vendor recovery partition) into /media/windows in Ubuntu. you will have read-only access.
[15:20] <NoXzema> I don't like many applications that mimic Skype functionality.
[15:20] <AceKing> How can I update the ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 4250 graphics driver from grub terminal?
[15:20] <ceed^> BluesKaj: My situation is that I'm allowed to use Linux for Work as long as I can run Skype. If the Linux version goes away I'm back on Windows :(
[15:20] <AceKing> install not update
[15:21] <wcrucius> I need to remove pm-utils but 'apt-get remove pm-utils' wants to remove gdm and lots of other required stuff, how do I prevent that?
[15:21] <arand> Silly: If you refer to wubi, no, it sets up a dual-boot using the wondows bootloader and a loopmounted file on the ntfs filesystem.
[15:21] <mneptok> adam61: so was "sda2" the correct partition? do you see your data?
[15:21] <allu2> ceed^: ?
[15:21] <yannf> hello
[15:21] <Roasted> pici - do I need a reboot for that?
[15:21] <NoXzema> I think this channel should be split up. It's kinda hard to read conversations.
[15:21] <adam61> mneptok, not quite sure how to check, would i go to computer, file system, media, windows?
[15:21] <Pici> Roasted: Er, I'm not sure.
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, logging in/out didn't do anything. rebooting now.
[15:22] <ayrton_> any1 good with wireless? , my connection just stops working after 5 minutes and doesnt start till i reconnect
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, just booted up - no dice.
[15:22] <mneptok> adam61: quite so
[15:22] <ayrton_> and then it does it again
[15:22] <Silly> arand, Ah, that's what I wanted to know, my usual method is to use virtualbox... my usual work environment involves switching back and forth between win/nix often...
[15:22] <adam61> mneptok, omg! i think it worked!
[15:22] <Pici> Roasted: did it give you a menu to pick which login manager to use?
[15:22] <new_kid1>  ceed^: I can't do withoot skype either .............I am kind of getting addicted to it :-D
[15:22] <Roasted> Pici, oh yes. but the login screen is entirely xfce.
[15:22] <mneptok> adam61: now find some kind of media to copy your stuff onto
[15:23] <Pici> Roasted: You picked GDM though, right?
[15:23] <adam61> mneptok, wow, thank you sooo much, i cannot believe it worked!
[15:23] <adam61> everything's there!
[15:23] <en1gma> ok i put the mbr and /boot on my windows 7 ssd....it looks like this /dev/sda = grub   /dev/sda1 = ntfs windows   and /dev/sda2 = 200MB ext3 for /boot......then on my /dev/sdb (usb flash drive) i have /dev/sdb1 = 9GB ext3 that is /    and then /dev/sdb2 = 1GB swap......when i boot into grub and select ubuntu it does not boot up....i just get flashing cursor in upper left corner.....i check 'mount' and nothing is mounted
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, oh, crap. I was on the wrong thing. give me a second.
[15:23] <ayrton_> need help with my wireless problem please
[15:23] <adam61> mneptok, you're a life saver
[15:23] <Harith> hi, please I'm tired of searching without any success, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and tried the restricted drivers, but failed to be installed, any guide on how to install such a graphic card???
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, I never saw that option actually.
[15:23] <en1gma> what else do i need to do to make it boot the usb flash drive
[15:23] <adam61> escott, thanks for your help yesterday too
[15:23] <Roasted> Pici, the command in terminal returned with 0 output.
[15:24] <arand> Silly: VM/cygwin is your best bet so far I think, canonical is working on an online instance of ubuntu I think, but it's not complete I think..
[15:24] <mneptok> adam61: copy the stuff you want (and know is uninfected) onto some external media, and reinstall Windows (and install Linux ;) ) when you have a backup
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ceed^, maybe mw will maintain one , after all there are free windows versions ... ms isn't about not making money , so they might even offer a commercial linux version , ome can only hope )
[15:24] <BluesKaj> mw=ms
[15:24] <yannf> I have a problem with system authorization: in "control center", I get a request for a password, but I only an error
[15:24] <adam61> mneptok, thank you a million times, i never thought this would work, i am soo happy lol
[15:24] <yannf> this came after I've installed Debian in another partition using the same /home
[15:25] <ChrisGagnon> ayrton_: what wireless card do you have?
[15:25] <mneptok> adam61: i'll PM my PayPal details >:P
[15:25] <wcrucius> anyone?
[15:25]  * thiebaude loves my partitions
[15:25] <adam61> mneptok lol!!
[15:25] <thiebaude> :)
[15:25] <ayecee> wcrucius: anyone what?
[15:25] <Pici> Roasted: one moment
[15:25] <Bigvjc> me i ned held
[15:25] <ayrton_> umm, broadcam?
[15:25] <Bigvjc> help
[15:25] <Roasted> Pici, appreciate it bro.
[15:26] <Bigvjc> i
[15:26] <LetsGo67> Cas07: i moved the dock downwards and auto-hide, but it remains on the left and won't hide.
[15:26] <wcrucius> need to apt-get remove pm-utils, however that wants to remove other stuff that I still want, how do I override this?
[15:26] <n2i> Hi all!
[15:26] <n2i> How to set locale for Ubuntu?
[15:26] <Harith> hi, please I'm tired of searching without any success, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 and Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 and tried the restricted drivers, but failed to be installed, any guide on how to install such a graphic card???
[15:26] <Cas07> LetsGo67: just to clarify which dock are we talking about?
[15:26] <Pici> Roasted: Just to confirm: You have gdm installed. and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[15:26] <Bigvjc> app keeps asking for root pass
[15:27] <n2i> I have modified /etc/default/locale but it not ok!
[15:27] <yannf> I have the message 'The application the "network-admin" lets you modify essential parts of your system'
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, yes.
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, well
[15:27] <wcrucius> @ayecee: need to apt-get remove pm-utils, however that wants to remove other stuff that I still want, how do I override this?
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, gdm is installed by default, right
[15:27] <yannf> but in fact, there is no "network-admin" application
[15:27] <ChrisGagnon> ayrton_: what does 'ifconfig' say your wireless card is (ie: wlan0?)
[15:27] <Pici> Roasted: Yes.  And you had installed xdm with xubuntu-desktop, right?
[15:27] <AceKing> usr13, studentz, you guys still here?
[15:27] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Unity.
[15:27] <Roasted> Pici, if xdm is xubuntu's login interface, yes. I installed xubuntu-desktop from software center. nothing more.
[15:27] <n2i> Somebody can help me, please!
[15:28] <yannf> any idea plz?
[15:28] <Pici> Roasted: Try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[15:28] <studentz> AceKing  I'm back sorry urgent call from my boss. where are you now?
[15:28] <auska> hi! can someone help me with these error: http://pastebin.com/dMGHmhRf there is the source and the  compilation error. Thanks ;)
[15:28] <Cas07> LetsGo67: you cannot move the Unity Launcher (dock)
[15:29] <Roasted> Pici, not installed.
[15:29] <AceKing> studentz,  that's ok. I'm back at the grub menu
[15:29] <zaksoldier> Hi
[15:29] <Orbixx> How can I best test the hardware of my system for faults?
[15:29] <froes> anyone ever had problems with pulse audio ??
[15:29] <Orbixx> Motherboard/memory/disks?
[15:29] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Can it hide?  It's blocking the screen!
[15:29] <Pici> Roasted: So... What do you see exactly on your login screen then?
[15:29] <AceKing> studentz, Did you see the output of "ls" I posted before?
[15:30] <Roasted> Pici, Xubuntu's login screen. it's blue with a mouse, etc.
[15:30] <yannf> any idea plz?
[15:30] <Cas07> LetsGo67: In CCSM Unity plugin did you change 'Hide Launcher' to Autohide
[15:30] <studentz> AceKing. the commands for grub are very limited. You cannot modify anything about your driver from there
[15:30] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[15:30] <en1gma> cam amyone help me get my usb 3.0 flash drive up and running?
[15:30] <studentz> AceKing But you can go to a bash terminal. And that is I want you to do
[15:31] <AceKing> studentz, Ok, how do I do that?
[15:31] <studentz> AceKing I missed your result of ls
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  I just plugged my usb 3 Hard drive into a usb3 contrioller card/port and it worked.. Ive not even seen usb3 'flash' drives yet. :)
[15:31] <escott> Orbixx, a memory tester is included in the install media, select it at boot. you can check the smart status of the disks from the disk utility. for cpu related issues people usually run something cpu intensive like prime95
[15:31] <AceKing>  studentz, (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5)  (hd0,msdos3)  (hd0,msdos2)  (hd0,msdos1)  (hd1)  (hd1,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1)
[15:31] <wcrucius> ok, I'll try this a different way...  Is there an IRC channel for ubuntu apt-get problems?  Or where I might find experts on the subject?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  theres the forums, and the askubuntu.com site
[15:31] <en1gma> Dr_Willis i mean to boot from it
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  also the debian forums may help
[15:32] <en1gma> if i plug my usb 3.0 flash drive into my usb 2.0 port it is of course recognized
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  Oh. :) My usb3 is on a expansion card. cant boot from those ports at all.
[15:32] <Pici> Roasted: Hrm.  I seem to have been mistaken.  xubuntu-desktop ships gdm, not xdm.
[15:32] <wcrucius> tried all that, I don't usually create IRC noise until I've done that already...
[15:32] <compdoc> wcrucius, try the mailing list
[15:32] <en1gma> i just need to know what i need to have on my ssd so it can see my usb 3.0 drive on the usb 3.0 port
[15:33] <wcrucius> this is annoying because I could do exactly what I needed pre-natty...
[15:33] <studentz> AceKing so you have two HD the first one with four partitions the second one with two partitions. It that ok
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  so the usb3 was built into the pcs motherboard then>?
[15:34] <AceKing> studentz, No, one HDD I think I had an external plugged in also. Sorry about that
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> wcrucius:  the askubuntu.com site has been getting a lot of attention lately. Ive been helping out there a lot more then IRC lately.
[15:34] <Cas07> wcrucius: use dpkg instead
[15:34] <Pici> Roasted: This is 11.04?
[15:34] <en1gma> no...the usb 3.0 flash drive looks just like and flash drive (usb stick) its just the usb 3.0 port does not work at POST or whatever
[15:34] <Roasted> Pici, yes
[15:34] <en1gma> so i need to get usb 3.0 port working before linux can boot from it
[15:34] <wcrucius> BTW, is there a better IRC client than "LostIRC"?  I just want to turn off all the joined/exited messages
[15:34] <studentz> AceKing so unplugged the external if you don't need it. and again ls result
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Dr_Willis, thanks, that's one I hadn't thought of
[15:35] <Orbixx> wcrucius: xchat
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  sounds like it may be a hardware/bios limitation then.
[15:35] <erdemy> wcrucius: i don't think so. i like bitchx :)
[15:35] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Cas07, tried that, same problem
[15:35] <wcrucius> @Orbixx, thx
[15:35] <en1gma> it is...until it gets into windows where the driver is or until linux boots and sees it also
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> I perfer 'weechat ' over irssi or bitchx these days. :)
[15:35] <en1gma> its just driver isnt it
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  booting from it - would requier the bios to properly see it and know it can boot from it.
[15:36] <AceKing>  studentz, (hd0) (hd0,msdos6) (hd0,msdos5)  (hd0,msdos3)  (hd0,msdos2)  (hd0,msdos1)
[15:36] <LetsGo67> Cas07: Yes, autohid.
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you could some how perhaps make a usb2 drive in a usb2 port boot the system and keep your / and home and stuff on the usb3 - just boot from the usb2
[15:36] <en1gma> Dr_Willis i dont think so
[15:36] <schure> dear all, i am here wondering how to deactivate the ATI/AMD propietary FGLRX graphics driver. My main problem is that I don't even get command line access when I boot. I am booting from usb...
[15:37] <wcrucius> autohid
[15:37] <en1gma> it is recognized after linux boots or windows boots...means it isnt a bios issue or it would never be seen
[15:37] <wcrucius> whoops
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  I know i cant boot from Mine. because its on an expansion card.
[15:37] <studentz> AceKing result of ls (hd0,5)/boot
[15:37] <Harith> schure, I have same problem of yours, what's you card model?
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  linux has drivers for usb3 built in from what i researched.
[15:38] <en1gma> you can if you load the drivers up on your hdd first
[15:38] <schure> Dr_Willis: I am not sure.
[15:38] <schure> Harith: I am not sure.
[15:38] <schure> Harith: It is whatever comes with the hp tm2t
[15:38] <en1gma> when i get to that grub recovery menu what can i type to see if my kernel is even loading
[15:39] <en1gma> when i tell grub to boot lunux off the usb drive and it dont it takes me to a console
[15:39] <Harith> schure, I have ATI Radeon HD 5470 Intel HD Graphics embedded in core i3
[15:39] <Cas07> LetsGo67: well if that doesn't work it must be a bug
[15:39] <adam61> mneptok, i'm back lol.. hopefully just a simple question: the device i was going to use was the same 4Gb usb drive that i'm running ubuntu 11.04 on. but i don't see it listed when i go to paste my files there. any idea why i can't see it?
[15:39] <tesseracter> i know you guys must be getting this a lot, but is there any way to get the file menu back attached to the window instead of up top? i use focus follows mouse, which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to get to the correct dropdown.
[15:39] <schure> Harith: I think it is a radeon hd 5450
[15:39] <falserunes> Hello All
[15:39] <schure> Harith: oh, no, mine is not a core i3; it's the older version that came iwth a core 2 duo
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you woudl set the 'root' then set linux to point to the kernel .
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>   set root='(/dev/sdb,msdos1)'
[15:40] <Harith> schure, ahaa, and I'm here to find a solution, but no one actually responds 0_0
[15:40] <Dr_Willis>         linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=6b2affce-9dba-4412-b275-0b28d6d1ed4e ro   quiet nosplash
[15:40] <en1gma> Dr_Willis what command do i tell it
[15:40] <falserunes> having problem with X
[15:40] <en1gma> to see the list
[15:40] <schure> Harith: one solution is to reinstall everything...
[15:40] <schure> Harith: which i would leave for next week
[15:41] <en1gma> i mean how do i tell if the kernel is even loading off of /dev/sda2 where /boot is located
[15:41] <Flynsarmy> How do i stop chrome being my default FTP manager when I select FTP addresses in Places menu at the top (11.04). ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml is already set to nautilus......
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:   not sure with grub2. it may support tab completion, check its 'help' output.
[15:41] <newubuntu> hey anyone here running ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <Harith> schure, i already tried that several times
[15:41] <compdoc> sure
[15:41] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drives reside in the filesystem???
[15:41] <compdoc> Ive been using 11.04 since the betas
[15:41] <NoXzema> I'm trying to remove the filesystem icons on my destkop.
[15:42] <AceKing> studentz, grub/ memtest86+.bin config-2.6.32-25-generic-pae abi-2.6.32-25-generic-pae system.map-2.6.32-25-generic-pae vmcoreinfo-2.6.32-25-generic-pae initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  you would run that set root comamdn and the linux command, then  im not sure. if its 'boot' or what command to make it actually boot. I havent had to handload grub2 much.
[15:42] <NoXzema> How do I do so?
[15:42] <Flynsarmy> schure: your HDDs will be in /media
[15:42] <schure> Harith: what do you mean? you booted from usb and installed everything, asking the installer to format your drive, and you still had the driver installed afterwards?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> NoXzema:  the unsupoported program 'ubuntu-tweak' has a checkbox to do it. Its some gnome conf setting. But i cant recall how to do it by hand.
[15:42] <newubuntu> compdoc: do u like it more than 10.10?
[15:42] <en1gma> Dr_Willis so am i running grub2 then
[15:42] <schure> Flynsarmy: thanks, i'll look at it.
[15:42] <adam61> compdoc, do you know how to copy files to usb? i can't seem to find it
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  ive no idea what youa re running. :) grub2 is the default in ubuntu for the last few releases.
[15:43] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: before you break things with ubuntu-tweak.. let me tell you. just a second.
[15:43] <compdoc> newubuntu, I think 10.10 is good. I dont see a lot of difference
[15:43] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drivers reside in the filesystem???
[15:43] <en1gma> ok just wanted to make sure...i running 11.04 i386 desktop
[15:43] <schure> Flynsarmy: sorry, i meant drivers not drives
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> I honestly can say ive never broken things with ubuntu-tweak. :) but i pay attention to what im doing. :)
[15:43] <studentz> AceKing what version of Ubuntu are you in?
[15:43] <newubuntu> compdoc: i just started running 11.04(WUBI install) and it feels kinda sluggish and slower than 10.10
[15:43] <compdoc> adam61, you have to mount the usb and copy as usual
[15:44] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, okay...
[15:44] <AceKing> studentz, sorry, memtest86+_multiboot.bin config-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:44] <compdoc> newubuntu, what cpu you have? how much ram?
[15:44] <adam61> compdoc, i think i did mount it, but i don't know which one is my usb
[15:44] <schure> Anybody knows where the proprietary drivers (for example, for graphics cards) reside in the filesystem??? i need to remove one...
[15:44] <AceKing> studentz, 11.04
[15:44] <en1gma> Dr_Willis how can i tell if the /boot is actually even loadied
[15:44] <en1gma> i mean /boot is where the kernel is right?
[15:44] <Harith> schure, I intalled the system, now when it comes to intall the ATI, which I install it manually by downloading the binary file, then after restarting my computer, system doesn't boot, and yes, I install it from USB which has nothing to do with our issue
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:   you set the root variable to be where /boot/ is at i belive.
[15:45] <AceKing> studentz, in the beginning of the readout I forgot some of that text that I retyped
[15:45] <newubuntu> compdoc: it doesnt matter really coz im COMPARING it with 10.10. its startup is also slower dnt u think? btw, its a 1.2 dual core and 1gb ram
[15:45] <compdoc> newubuntu, I have 11.04 running on a few PCs, and using them as servers. If pretty fast and smooth
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> en1gma:  i think grub has a 'find' command, but i would have do double check the grub docs. its been ages.
[15:45] <schure> harith: i suggest you do NOT install the ati.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[15:45] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: in gconf-editor go to /apps/nautilus/desktop  and uncheck computer_icon_visible or home_icon_visible  .. if it is showing you things you have mounted in /media and you don't want then uncheck volumes_visible.
[15:45] <studentz> AceKing the problem happened after upgrade distribution?
[15:45] <schure> Harith: believe me, you will enjoy your computer more if it works.
[15:45] <AceKing> studentz, yes
[15:45] <compdoc> newubuntu, you use Unity or the classic desktop?
[15:45] <paul_78> hi all Im using Ubuntu 10.10, clean install all works well but no burnning apps can find LG burner but I can read DVD/CD all i can find on google is to install K3b but that didnt work any help wold be grate
[15:45] <newubuntu> compdoc: classic, why?
[15:45] <Tetsuo55> allright, i've joined the ranks of classic mode, unity is far too unstable beta/alpha software
[15:46] <en1gma> yea but there is no command i can do at grub recovery console to see if the kernel is laoded?
[15:46] <adam61> compdoc, how can i tell where the usb drive is after i mounted it? i'm in places and can't see it
[15:46] <saimanoj> hello, everyone i need help regarding ubuntu app development
[15:46] <schure> harith: there seems to be an alternative.
[15:46] <LetsGo67> Cas07: :(
[15:46] <saimanoj> no one is responding at #ubuntu-devel
[15:46] <AceKing> studentz, I wouldn't mind reinstalling except that I have pictures and stuff that I want to get off. When I go in through LiveCD, they are all locked.
[15:46] <compdoc> newubuntu, I hear Unity needs more in the way of video hardware for the 3d stuff
[15:46] <Harith> schure, what is it?
[15:46] <schure> harith: i found a file called source_fglrx-installer.py that tells you what the installation process does.
[15:47] <compdoc> I use classic too
[15:47] <studentz> AceKing please give me a sec :)
[15:47] <AceKing> studentz, ok
[15:47] <en1gma> ok let me try this....thanks Dr_Willis
[15:47] <en1gma> will report back
[15:47] <compdoc> adam61, whats the command you used to mount it? Or did you let it auto-mount?
[15:47] <Harith> schure, where is it? where can I get it from? what's the installation process?
[15:47] <schure> harith: so maybe we can at least unisntall the thing without installing everything over again...
[15:47] <newubuntu> compdoc: yeah thats rt coz it eats more ram for that side pane, but i prefer the classic look wayy more....the unity look feels like its designed for kids dnt ya think?
[15:48] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, I'm using Xfce whatever it uses for its destkop.
[15:48] <NoXzema> It doesn't seem to work with Xfce :/
[15:48] <Flynsarmy> How do i stop chrome being my default FTP manager when I select FTP addresses in Places menu at the top (11.04). ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp/%gconf.xml is already set to nautilus......
[15:48] <maniakss> Hello
[15:48] <adam61> compdoc, not sure i can't remember, mneptok was guiding me through it
[15:48] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: i don't know for xfce :(
[15:48] <NoXzema> kk
[15:48] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:48] <Harith> schure, I'm listening...
[15:48] <compdoc> newubuntu, well, I think Unity might be nice for phones and tablets, but I like gnome
[15:48] <schure> Harith: i think i will try doing some stuff, but i must boot...
[15:49] <Harith> schure, ok
[15:49] <Jazba> I am connected to [2] IRC servers and [5] channels, owning [1] of [2216] users.
[15:49] <newubuntu> compdoc: i agree fully. i gotta a ques--- does mentioning the name  of a chatter anywhere in a sentence makes a pop up window appear on his/her ubuntu?
[15:49] <gingercyde> 11.1 desktop seems a bit of a big jump from 10.1 anyone else having a hard time getting used to the new layout?
[15:49] <Jazba> oops
[15:50] <adam61> compdoc, actually i think it was my windows partition that i mounted, i don't think i've mounted the usb yet; it has the ubuntu i'm currently running though, is that ok?
[15:50] <newubuntu> gingercycle: u mean 11.04 from 10.10 dont u?
[15:50] <kevin___> what is unity ? is it a new desktop environment?
[15:50] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698045   post #5 may have the answers you need.
[15:50] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:51] <gingercyde> sure, I just saw it updating when I installed
[15:51] <newubuntu> compdoc: man! i was just setting up the clock in ubuntu and it crashed midway! unbelievable yaar!
[15:52] <addiks> hi, does anybody know what to do if the apple-bluetooth-keyboard (without numpad) acts like a numpad-only? (all keys (including shift-LED and FN) dead except: J,K,L,U,I,O,7,8,9 which acts like 1,2,3,4...)
[15:52] <guhcampos> Hello guys, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my notebook, but using the provided ATI video driver, using dual head leaves a lot of garbage on the screen.
[15:52] <adam61> compdoc, how do i mount the usb if the os i'm running is on that?
[15:52] <guhcampos> Installing the flgrx driver didn't fix, for the contrary: now it will not use the second monitor at all
[15:53] <guhcampos> is there anything I cant do?
[15:53] <compdoc> adam61, sorry, I havent used a usb drive with my ubuntu systems. you would have to find the /dev/ that the usb is. Maybe using dmesg. Im not an expert at usb
[15:53] <escott> adam61, the usb is mounted as /
[15:54] <maniakss> Is there any HD Movies accelerate for AMD HD 48xx Driver or tool?
[15:54] <adam61> escott, thank, so where would i paste my files to?
[15:54] <escott> adam61, you cannot remount that partition (you could bind mount it but that would be silly). if you have a second partition on the usb (uncommon) you could mount that partition, but store your files in /home/yourusername
[15:55] <NoXzema> And last but not least, does anyone know of a Teamspeak 3 ubuntu package?
[15:56] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: did that forum link help?
[15:56] <NoXzema> bastidrazor, kind of. It turns out there's a desktop settings menu if your right click on the desktop lol
[15:56] <bastidrazor> NoXzema: heh, good deal.
[15:56] <maniakss> how to turn off Vsync in AMD?
[15:56] <adam61> escott, i haven't installed any version of ubuntu yet since it would overwrite windows, so i'll probably have only a little bit of room to store in /home/yourusername is that right?
[15:57] <sporedi> how do i search a specific package in other linux its rpm -qa |grep -i name of package
[15:57] <NoXzema> maniakss, you use fglrx or ati?
[15:57] <maniakss> ati CCC
[15:57] <NoXzema> maniakss, there should be a setting for it in 3D settings.
[15:57] <studentz> AceKing set root=(hd0,5)
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next set root=(hd0,5)
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae  root=/dev/sda5 ro Single
[15:58] <adam61> escott, can u see a way that i can pull those files off the computer? will i have to create a partition on the usbdrive?
[15:58] <maniakss> ok, i've got it
[15:58] <AceKing> studentz, Ok I'm not sure if you typed anything before that. I froze up after I wrote "OK" to you
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae
[15:58] <acidflash> hi
[15:58] <studentz> AceKing next boot
[15:58] <NoXzema> Good, cause my aticccle isn't starting now T.T
[15:59] <acidflash> if i upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 or later, will i lose all of my data and programs?
[15:59] <maniakss> NoXzema, is there any HD movies accelerator?
[15:59] <NoXzema> maniakss, there are, similar to nVidias vdpau...
[15:59] <AceKing> studentz, was there anything before set root=(hd0,5)
[15:59] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[15:59] <escott> adam61, if your usb drive is large enough you could just copy them to the usbdrive, otherwise you need to back them up to somewhere else
[15:59] <NoXzema> I do not remember what they're called though.
[15:59] <rumpe1> acidflash, depends how you upgrade and if you have enough luck...
[15:59] <maniakss> NoXzema, but does it work for AMD?
[16:00] <escott> adam61, you could use gparted to resize the ntfs partitions, but there is always a risk of data lose so its a good idea to have a backup somewhere
[16:00] <adam61> escott, that's what i was going to do, there should be at least 2 free Gb, but i can't find it in 'Places'
[16:00] <studentz> AceKing nope. I run in my laptop
[16:00] <acidflash> rumpe1: so that means that it might be deleted?
[16:00] <usr13> acidflash: Usually no, but there is alwasy a chance that things will go wrong.  Although it is a small risk, there is a risk.
[16:00] <AceKing> studentz, Ok so I type this right at the same grub prompt right?
[16:01] <NoXzema> maniakss, it's called: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video_Bitstream_Acceleration
[16:01] <acidflash> usr13: this is ubuntu server, is it the same?
[16:01] <studentz> AceKing yep
[16:01] <NoXzema> mplayer has a plugin for it.
[16:01] <usr13> acidflash: Yes
[16:01] <AceKing> studentz, OK, doing it now
[16:01] <adam61> escott, there's just 'Desktop', 'Filesystem', 'System Reserve', '80 Gb file system', 'Floppy Drive'
[16:01] <acidflash> usr13: ok maybe i should describe whats happened to be exact...
[16:01] <studentz> AceKing linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae  root=/dev/sda5 ro Single
[16:01] <rumpe1> acidflash, as i said... depends. If you like your data, back it up!
[16:02] <usr13> acidflash: I must tell you from my experience, I've done a lot of upgrades and have yet to loose anything.
[16:02] <acidflash> usr13: i have a corrupt ubuntu which im using as a caching system, ubuntu is missing practically everything in bin and sbin... if i upgrade will it fix that and will i get a working system without losing my current files (like the caching system) etc... the only problem is the stuff in /bin and /sbin
[16:02] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:03] <adam61> usr13, sorry to bother you again! i'm not able to see my usb drive in "places"
[16:03] <escott> adam61, your Desktop is on the flash drive and is /home/username/Desktop if there is enough space on the usb thats the best place
[16:03] <jrsdead> hey could someone point me to a guide for doing a netinstall to a machine with no cddrive or floppy from a mac?
[16:03] <usr13> adam61: unplug and plug it back in again.
[16:03] <adam61> escott, ooo ok i think i understand now. so if i just copy it to the desktop there, it should be saved on the device correct?
[16:03] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:03] <escott> adam61, don't unplug the usb if you are running it
[16:04] <usr13> acidflash: So you are using this machine as a caching nameserver?
[16:04] <adam61> usr13, i'm running ubuntu 11 so i can't i don' think
[16:04] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:04] <acidflash> usr13: a forward caching proxy
[16:04] <escott> adam61, if you are running the liveusb then the usb is what you are in, everything else looks like it is external to the usb, which is why the usb doesn't appear
[16:05] <maniakss> NoXzema, xvba-va-driver - XvBA-based backend for VA API (AMD fglrx implementation) < -that's it right?
[16:05] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:05] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:05] <adam61> escott, i see now, i was very confused, thanks. so if i just copy them to the desktop they will be automatically stored on the usb correct?
[16:05] <escott> adam61, yes they should be. you can reboot and double check but they should be there. the question would be if it is big enough
[16:06] <adam61> escott, ok great, it'll take a few trips but i'll get it, thanks again!!!!
[16:06] <escott> adam61, you can run df -h from the command line and get a sense of how much free space you have on /
[16:06] <AceKing> studentz, restarting now
[16:06] <adam61> ok i'll do that
[16:06] <adam61> thanks
[16:06] <usr13> acidflash: Oh a proxy server... ok.  Well, I don't know if it will fix everything that is missing but it might. But as far as recreating the proxy server, that should be all that hard even if you did have to start from scratch. If you DO decide to do the upgrade, there are some precautions you could take.   You could ghost the drive, (make a copy onto another), and that way, you would only have to switch drives and it'll be like it was before. That is one way.
[16:06] <escott> adam61, if its not big enough consider things like ubuntuOne or getting an external hard drive
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, same thing
[16:07] <NoXzema> maniakss, most likely.
[16:07] <escott> adam61, or burning lots of cds and dvds for backups
[16:07] <Bigvjc> can i get some help
[16:07] <escott> adam61, or risking the data with a resize of the ntfs
[16:07] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:07] <Zmon> no windows at all i can type in
[16:07] <usr13> acidflash: If you have another drive you can just install it as a slave and ghost it, and if it blows up in your face just take the slave and set it as master and your back to where you were before.
[16:07] <adam61> escott, there's about 350 mb free
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, It starts flashing before it gets to the login screen and then stops and shows that little line across the top
[16:07] <studentz> AceKing did you already type initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-25-generic-pae   and boot?
[16:07] <adam61> think i'm going to try doing it bit by bit lol
[16:07] <escott> adam61, i cant think of any other options for you really, its basically one of those 4 options
[16:07] <AceKing> studentz, yes
[16:08] <Zmon> hello
[16:08] <adam61> escott, that's great, i'm sure i can get them all now. really appreciate all the help
[16:08] <AceKing> studentz, I'm going to try it again in case I typed something wrong
[16:08] <Bigvjc> im typing this with grafitti for android
[16:08] <usr13> acidflash: You can use dd to ghost one drive to another.   i.e.  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[16:08] <usr13> acidflash: Something like that.
[16:09] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:09] <maniakss> NoXzema, i can't install it;/
[16:09] <NoXzema> maniakss, why nto?
[16:09] <NoXzema> not*
[16:09] <martian> I used ndiswrapper to install a driver for my laptop's wifi card and all worked well, but upon startup today, it no longer seems to work. The additional drivers applet shows the driver in use, but there is no wifi device shown in ifconfig. what can I do to fix this?
[16:09] <Bigvjc> this rocks
[16:09] <takamarou> Hi all.  I'm not getting a grub menu when I boot up my computer (containing win7 and ubuntu 11.04), so I'm following this tutorial http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/ .  However, I have no menu.lst file in my /boot/grub/ directory? What should I do?
[16:09] <maniakss> NoXzema, fglrx-driver i want this, but there isn't it in repositories
[16:09] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:09] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:09] <NoXzema> Hmm... hold on..
[16:10] <arand> takamarou: grub2 uses grub.cfg instead.
[16:10] <usr13> acidflash:  Or you can use g4u  http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#reqs
[16:10] <escott> takamarou, you have grub2 and a grub.cfg
[16:10] <NoXzema> lol
[16:10] <NoXzema> It says that it's broken for some reason.
[16:10] <escott> !grub | takamarou
[16:10] <takamarou> arand & escott, thanks!
[16:10] <arand> takamarou: What happens when you boot?
[16:10] <usr13> acidflash: If you have a flash drive or usb drive you could use that as well.
[16:10] <Zmon> can anyone help me
[16:10] <robin0800> takamarou, thats an old guide as there is no menu.1st in grub2
[16:10] <takamarou> arand, it boots straight into Win7.  Directly from POST I see the win7 logo
[16:11] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:11] <Bigvjc> anyone familia with grafitti
[16:11] <LuPo767> ciao
[16:11] <BluesKaj> martian, sudo iwconfig wlan0 up , or whatever your wifi connection is listed as in ifconfig
[16:11] <jordotech> can someone tell me how to add more virtual desktops to the 4 that ship with natty?
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:11] <FloodBot1> Zmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <solovoy> hi
[16:11] <NisargS> does firefox have to open fully maximized in ubuntu 11.04. even if you resize and close it, it still opens in fully resized mode
[16:11] <Bigvjc> draw the letters to type
[16:11] <usr13> acidflash: you can make a compressed image.     gzip < /dev/sda > mybackup.img.gz
[16:12] <solovoy> what are the best drivers for an ati 5770, i have ubuntu 11.04 x64
[16:12] <martian> BluesKaj: well that's just the thing. iwconfig reports no iw enabled devices
[16:12] <bitplane> Hi, I've just installed 11.04 and none of my packages will authenticate. Am I missing some key or something?
[16:12] <jordotech> NisargS, I hate that too
[16:12] <usr13> acidflash: you can make a compressed image.     gzip < /dev/sda > /mnt/disk/mybackup.img.gz
[16:12] <jordotech> NisargS, have you figured out how to add more virtual desktops to the 4 that ship with 11.04?
[16:12] <arand> takamarou: Did you install a dual-boot? wubi?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> martian, ok try ifconfig in it's place
[16:12] <rumpe1> solovoy, i prefer the open one (radeon), but you can test both, if you like
[16:12] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:12] <Roasted> where are ubuntu wallpapers stored?
[16:12] <NisargS> jordotech: i  think thats a bug, there are quite a few reports too
[16:13] <bitplane> jordotech: see "compiz config settings manager"
[16:13] <bitplane> it's in the general options
[16:13] <martian> BluesKaj: yeah, ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo
[16:13] <NisargS> Zmon: typing in hte sense?
[16:13] <takamarou> arand, yeah, dual boot.  Has Win7 x64 loaded first, then installed 11.04 x64.  Not wubi - use the ISO from ubuntu site
[16:13] <Zmon> huh
[16:13] <BluesKaj> martian, which wifi card ?
[16:13] <Zmon> i cant even type in a text pad
[16:13] <Zmon> or rename files
[16:13] <NisargS> what do exactly mean by prevent from typing? disable the keyboard or ...??
[16:14] <Zmon> it seems disabled
[16:14] <NoXzema> maniakss, I guess XvBA isn't supported at all atm
[16:14] <maniakss> NoXzema, i have HD 4850
[16:14] <keith105> if i mess about with trying to configure bridges and tap interfaces on ubuntu, how can i restore back to default networking config?
[16:14] <martian> BluesKaj: Broadcom BCM4311
[16:14] <arand> takamarou: If ubuntu doesn't boot at all I would assume the bootloader isn't installed properly, use the grub2 guide for reinstalling:
[16:14] <jordotech> bitplane, by 'general options' do you mean system settings?  I can't find anything about virtual desktops in there
[16:14] <arand> !grub2 | takamarou
[16:14] <martian> BluesKaj: when I try reinstalling the driver using ndiswrapper, it says the driver is already installed
[16:14] <LarsTorben> hi
[16:14] <BluesKaj> martian, no need for ndiswrapper with broadcom afaik
[16:14] <takamarou> arand, I've been around the block wit this about 10 times in the past week.  That guide is useless for me :/
[16:14] <solovoy> thanks rumpe1 , I installed fglrx from this ppa: ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[16:15] <bitplane> jordotech, no it's in the compiz config settings. I can't talk you through it because my software center is screwed at the moment
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !bcm | martian
[16:15] <KM0201> martian: the STA or restricted b43 driver should work fine w/ that device.... is it one of the lp-phy's?
[16:15] <jordotech> thanks for the directions bitplane , this helps
[16:15] <Zmon> anyone know what would prevent me from typing inyo any text box on ubuntu
[16:15] <Zmon> i cant even type in a text pad
[16:15] <Zmon> it seems disabled
[16:15] <Zmon> or rename files
[16:15] <FloodBot1> Zmon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <NoXzema> maniakss, I have 5750 myself :d
[16:15] <KM0201> !broadcom | martian
[16:15] <rumpe1> solovoy, uh... ppa... kinda risky.
[16:15] <martian> BluesKaj: yeah, I recall reading that somewhere, but for some reason it just wasnt't working. KM0201 lp-phy? I'm not familiar with that
[16:15] <schure> messages?
[16:16] <studentz> Aceking would you mind to post results of ls (hd0,5)/boot/grub  ls (hd0,6)/boot/grub  (both) again
[16:16] <maniakss> NoXzema, Wikipedia says it should run from HD 4xxx
[16:16] <arand> takamarou: So nothing happens when you "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda" (or similar)?
[16:16] <martian> KM0201: readin' up. Thanks.
[16:16] <usr13> acidflash: And then to uncompress it back on to the drive:  gzip -d /media/disk/mybackup.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda (This being done from a LiveCD.)
[16:16] <KM0201> martian: open up a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, hit enter... find you wireless device, and see if it says "4311-lp-phy" or something like that
[16:16] <bitplane> Zmon: sounds like your window decorator has crashed
[16:16] <Zmon> how i fix
[16:16] <NoXzema> maniakss, it's a problem with ubuntu
[16:16] <martian> KM0201: ahh, no it is not.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> martian, KM0201 has the right URL for help with tour wifi card , that should work
[16:16] <KM0201> martian: ok..
[16:16] <bitplane> Zmon: mess with all the settings in compiz config settings manager
[16:16] <takamarou> arand, I get some errors..  Gosh, wish I had written them down.  Let me re-run that tutorial and I'll let you know
[16:17] <maniakss> NoXzema, fglrx-driver <- maybe we should check some PPA's for check this
[16:17] <NoXzema> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723339
[16:17] <NoXzema> It's apparently been broken since last december
[16:17] <usr13> acidflash: As you see, there are a number of   ways to backup your data for a project like this. (And there are others, you can back it up via ssh to another PC's drive or another PC's USB drive on your network.
[16:17] <bitplane> this room is too busy, I'm out
[16:17] <robin0800> takamarou, all you need to do is to be able to run sudo update-grub from a ubuntu terminal
[16:18] <KM0201> martian: looks like the 4311, shoud work w/ either the STA, or the B43 firmware/driver... i would try the sta driver first
[16:18] <martian> KM0201: I'll give it another go. So I just want to remove the entry from the modprobe blacklist that I put in when installing the win32 driver, right?
[16:18] <maniakss> NoXzema, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723339 <- exactly this same, shit;/
[16:19] <KM0201> martian: that would probably be a good idea
[16:19] <AceKing> studentz, that has a huge output, and there is no way to copy and paste
[16:19] <hidnshadows> Can anyone private message me about fixing my wifi? I input the right password, and it fails no matter what network I use. Im on my iphone, so i have s tiny screen
[16:20] <studentz> AceKing use Pastebin
[16:20] <takamarou> arand, hm.  No errors this time.  let's try a reboot
[16:21] <BluesKaj> !iphone | hidnshadows
[16:21] <mrkris> trying to get php 5.2+ fpm installed on Natty. I can backport to 5.2 from Karmic, but I need fpm, which apparently is only availabe as a patch in 5.2, but built into 5.3
[16:21] <takamarou> arand, I don't know what you did, but somehow you convinced my grub menu to finally appear!  thank you!
[16:21] <keith105> is to easy to restore default network config if i break networking messing about with tap0 and bridging interfaces?
[16:22] <hidnshadows> Blueskaj, not even close. The problem is on Lucid, im chatting because my iphone gets internet. How do I fix my wifi? I talk to people on an online chatroom on my laptop, with internet I dont have...
[16:22] <KM0201> keith105: i would think there's a way to backup/restore your network configuration... but i'm not sure how.
[16:23] <AceKing> studentz, There is no way to copy from in the grub terminal is there?  but ls (hd0,6)/boot/grub says unknown filesystem
[16:23] <NoXzema> maniakss, I figured out the problem.
[16:23] <jrsdead> hey could someone point me to a guide for doing a netinstall to a machine with no cddrive or floppy from a mac?
[16:23] <keith105> KM0201: np, i THINK it's just a matter of backing up /etc/networking/interfaces but maybe someone else can confirm before i go borking things? :)
[16:23] <Roasted> Has anybody noticed the menu in Unity 2D to be as slow/slower than Unity 3D?
[16:23] <NoXzema> Apparently, some time ago, the ATI driver was in a package called fglrx-driver which is no longer available.
[16:23] <KM0201> keith105: probably a good idea.. :)..
[16:23] <kevin___> what is the command for creating tar.gz file?
[16:24] <jrib> kevin___: tar cf
[16:24] <arand> takamarou: Glad to help
[16:24] <maniakss> NoXzema, i propably found how to resolve this : https://launchpad.net/~rexbron/+archive/bugfixes he fixed this bug
[16:24] <jrib> kevin___: tar czf  if you want it gzipped.  See « man tar », it has examples
[16:25] <BluesKaj> hidnshadows, I have no idea about Iphones ...just invoked the bot in case those tutorials might help
[16:25] <studentz> AceKing  ok There is another kernel number different from 2.6.32-25?
[16:25] <DirtyDawg> k, i'm uninstalling 11.04 and putting in 10.04
[16:26] <hidnshadows> Can anyone help with a wifi problem with Lucid? Wired works fine, it just rejects the proper password every time for wireless. Please PM, I have a tiny screen and could easily miss any messages
[16:26] <NoXzema> sweet...
[16:26] <AceKing> studentz, how can I find out?
[16:26] <studentz> AceKing ls (hd0,5)/boot/grub
[16:27] <tgm4883> when reporting a bug that already has a bug report and is already marked as fix released, is it better to add to that bug report or open a new bug?
[16:28] <AceKing> studentz, It doesn't say. It just gives me a bunch of stuff with .mod extension
[16:28] <NoXzema> I think I'll just wait till it gets into the mianstream repo
[16:28] <atma_> will ubuntu gnome run on a laptop with 2.66 Ghz amd 1 GB RAM?
[16:28] <atma_> run = run smoothly
[16:28] <acnot> aYes
[16:28] <hidnshadows> Atma_ it should, just be easy with GIMP
[16:28] <studentz> AceKing sorry ls (hd0,5)/boot/
[16:29] <atma_> ok
[16:29] <dea> j
[16:29] <usr13> adante: sudo fdisk -l
[16:30] <AceKing> studentz, No, just that version
[16:30] <usr13> adante: Sorry that was for someone else
[16:30] <keith105> hidnshadows: Pm sent
[16:30] <AceKing> studentz, 2.6.32-25
[16:30] <wcrucius> anyone familiar with re-configuring pm-utils?  I want laptop-mode (for disk cache flushes) even when on AC power
[16:31] <robin0800> Roasted, have you got metacity composting turned on?
[16:31] <Roasted> robin0800, I'm not quite sure. I assume that would make a difference.
[16:32] <studentz> AceKing something like vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic  exist
[16:33] <AceKing> studentz, vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-generic-pae exists
[16:33] <robin0800> Roasted, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/ubuntu-unity-2d-tweaking-tool-lets-you-adjust-the-launcher-dash-enable-compositing/
[16:33] <Roasted> thanks robin!
[16:34] <Roasted> robin0800, *
[16:35] <studentz> AceKing try this order http://pastebin.com/72U60LvW
[16:35] <Roasted> Where in Firefox/Ubuntu are icons stored that attach to web site links? I have a bookmark to my work web site and the logo I'd like to put on one of our projects. Where can I dig it up at?
[16:38] <RacerXFD> Hey, I need help with installing 11.04
[16:38] <RacerXFD> I can't log in.
[16:39] <usr13> RacerXFD: So you finished the install and can not login?
[16:39] <RacerXFD> Anyone?
[16:39] <compdoc> you get a black screen?
[16:40] <usr13> RacerXFD: Did you forget your password?
[16:40] <DirtyDawg> i do in 11.04 but the previous version of it in the menu works fine?
[16:40] <DirtyDawg> black screen that is
[16:40] <compdoc> looks like his network connection is one way only
[16:41] <en1gma> http://img88.imageshack.us/i/dsc06216x.jpg/   that isnt grub2 is it?
[16:41] <tensorpudding> en1gma: that's grub 2
[16:41] <AceKing> studentz, It's still doing the same thing. I don't mind starting over, but I wanted to save certain files like the .mozilla folder and .thunderbird folder but they show locks on them. I used sudo nautilus to access the files, but I'm afraid that once I copy them, they wont be able to be accessed
[16:41] <en1gma> im running ubuntu 11.04 i386 desktop and did a custom install to my usb flash drive
[16:41] <alpha_> hi, i have problem with new ubuntu 11.04, i have correctly burn CD with os, but ubu doesnt work with Live and before instalation (when is loading it crashing with black or purple screen)
[16:41] <tensorpudding> en1gma: grub 2 versions are actually 1.x
[16:42] <en1gma> it savs grub 1.99 i thought
[16:42] <en1gma> ahhh ok
[16:42] <studentz> AceKing You can boot from a live CD and copy to thumbdrive
[16:42] <en1gma> can someone tell me why when i select the generic kernel it dont load /boot off of /dev/sda2 but when i select recovery mode kernel it does
[16:42] <usr13> en1gma: Yes that is grub2
[16:42] <studentz> AceKing did you encrypted any directory?
[16:42] <martian> KM0201: seems like b43 was the way to go. Thanks for your help!
[16:42] <tensorpudding> en1gma: it's an annoying confusion, i think grub 2 is a name that people gave to it to make it distinctive from the old grub, which is called grub legacy, not grub 1
[16:42] <en1gma> http://imageshack.us/f/641/dsc06217e.jpg/
[16:43] <en1gma> yea i thought when i chose custom install it installed the old grub
[16:43] <en1gma> :)
[16:43] <AceKing> studentz, I can, but some of the folders are showing that they are locked. Including pictures etc. I do not have this drive encrypted
[16:43] <[ARC]> AceKing
[16:43] <[ARC]> do not worry
[16:43] <[ARC]> I have formated lots of times
[16:43] <[ARC]> And mozilla and thunderbird always work
[16:43] <RacerXFD_> Anyone know how to fix /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[16:44] <studentz> AceKing yep. Give me a sec
[16:44] <[ARC]> just Save de .thunderbird and .mozilla
[16:44] <AceKing> studentz, OK
[16:44] <[ARC]> and paste them in your new /home/user/.thunderbird
[16:44] <RacerXFD_> I'm having issues with logging in.
[16:44] <AceKing> [ARC], did the folders show they were locked when you booted into LiveCD?
[16:44] <usr13> RacerXFD: What is your problem?
[16:45] <studentz> AceKing yep Look at this link http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[16:45] <[ARC]> mm i do not remember but, when I upgraded from 9.10 to 11.04
[16:45] <RacerXFD_>  /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256
[16:45] <RacerXFD_> It's bootlooping
[16:45] <RacerXFD_> Well Login boot loop
[16:45] <[ARC]> I just copied the back up files to .thunderbird
[16:45] <wes__> too much noise, any IRC clients that allow for hiding join/quit notifications????
[16:45] <[ARC]> and is was ready to go
[16:45] <AceKing> studentz, I should use that even thought the drive wasn't encrypted?
[16:46] <KM0201> wes__: i'm not aware of one that doesn't allow that, except maybe pidgin (and even it might)
[16:46] <en1gma> grub is on my ssd /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 = win7 ntfs and /dev/sda2 = /boot ext 3.   my usb 3.0 flash drive = /dev/sdb and / is on /dev/sdb1 and swap = /dev/sdb2....when i boot into grub and select generic kernel i only get flashing cursor in top left corner....if i select generic kernel with recovery mode the kernel actually loads up but it still dont get my usb 3.0 to work
[16:46] <en1gma> can someone help
[16:46] <robin0800> wes__, xchat can with a script
[16:46] <wes__> hmm, so how?  I am IRC noob
[16:46] <studentz> If you mount the HD and you cannot access them, it is b/c they are encrypted.
[16:46] <KM0201> robin0800:  wes__ xchat doesn't need a script to hide join/part
[16:46] <IdleOne> wes__: robin0800 xchat can and does not require a script. right click on the channel name.
[16:47] <en1gma> this is where it actually crashes http://imageshack.us/f/641/dsc06217e.jpg/
[16:47] <usr13> RacerXFD_: Is this a new install?  Or upgrade or...?
[16:47] <[ARC]> I hope I was helpful... now launch is ready bye bye
[16:47] <RacerXFD_> It is new install
[16:47] <RacerXFD_> I wiped my old install
[16:47] <wes__> @robin0800: THANKS!
[16:48] <robin0800> wes__, get also flashey's annoyance script to get rid of the rest of the crud
[16:48] <IdleOne> wes__: "/set irc_conf_mode 1". To apply this setting to all current channels, type "/gui apply".
[16:48] <IdleOne> wes__: that will hide join/part in all channels
[16:49] <KM0201> downloading/installing unecessary scripts, is a good way to cause problems that are often hard to trouble shoot.
[16:49] <usr13> RacerXFD_: I've not seen this type of problem but am looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917306  ... I don't know if it's all that useful but...
[16:49] <RacerXFD_> usr13: anything helps at this point.
[16:50] <[ARC]> v
[16:50] <flyingmayo> I'm running 10.10.  installed the unity package.  When I log in selecting the "ubuntu netbook edition" I just end up with a standard gnome desktop. Anyone know what I'm missing here?
[16:50] <[ARC]> Did you check in log in opcions
[16:51] <IdleOne> flyingmayo: probably need to enable the unity plugin in compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:51] <[ARC]> that you are not entering something like ubuntu clasic?
[16:51] <zaksoldier> Yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaa installed the android on iPhone 4
[16:51] <[ARC]> zak
[16:51] <IdleOne> !ot | zaksoldier
[16:51] <flyingmayo> IdleOne: thx, trying that now
[16:52] <zaksoldier> Huh!!!
[16:52] <zaksoldier> I think ubottu is a bot
[16:52] <Calinou> he is.
[16:52] <Calinou> u-BOT-u
[16:53] <Calinou> tu*
[16:53] <IdleOne> zaksoldier: it is but it is still right about your off topicness
[16:54] <zaksoldier> What a smart bot!
[16:54] <Antilect> http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plattityd
[16:54] <Antilect> Wrong chan sorry
[16:55] <wes__> one last time, in case an answer flew by before:
[16:55] <wes__> anyone know how to reconfigure pm-utils (on Natty) to stay in laptop-mode (10 minute disk cache flush) even when on AC?
[16:55] <usr13> RacerXFD_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554172
[16:56] <itilious> is it unsafe to add a user to the www-data group to be able to write to the /var/www directory?
[16:56] <zaksoldier> Huh!!! Now he is not bot
[16:57] <DW-10297> Whenever Ubuntu 11.04 boots up on my system it just sits at a "cursor" I have to hit ctrl-f1 to get the shell.. is there some kind of setting I need to change to make it work correctly?
[16:57] <itilious> i've ready many forum postings that say this is a solution to FTP into apache html folder,,, but others say this is a big security risk,, anyone have any tips for me?
[16:57] <yadira> guys i plug a TB portable to my pc and nothing happens,,is formated as NFTS
[16:58] <NoXzema> If I send data through my local host, it transfers data at a crawling rate of about 2 kB a second.
[16:59] <robin0800> yadira, nautilus should show it but until you click on it it wont be loaded
[16:59] <NoXzema> Anyone know wtf is up with that?
[16:59] <itilious> is it not recommended for a n00b to linux to be setting up ftp access to live webserver on ubuntu 10.04 machine?
[17:00] <NoXzema> itilious, why do you suggest that?
[17:00] <yadira> robin0800, it shows me a Diskette..in /media is not there
[17:01] <itilious> NoXzema, because i've been searching for days and can't find a straight forward answer for the safe way to setup permissions for the ftp user
[17:01] <AceKing> studentz, I want to thank you for all your help today. It's very much appreciated!
[17:01] <itilious> either there's no replies for the seamingly less secure methods, or rarely some one says its not safe to use the method suggested
[17:02] <NoXzema> itilious, if you want security, just setup an SSH server.
[17:02] <studentz> AceKing Np. I'm trying to understand why we couldn't do it.
[17:02] <robin0800> yadira, you can add a folder to media to allow it to mount
[17:02] <itilious> NoXzema, I have this setup and use it and love it,,, i can't seem to figure out how to safely give the access to the /var/www folder
[17:03] <itilious> NoXzema, is it ok to add my main "admin" user account to the "www-data" group?
[17:03] <itilious> it seems this would be unsafe because it seems i'm giving admin control to the web server which is open to internet
[17:03] <en1gma> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/dsc06221j.jpg/
[17:04] <AceKing> studentz, for some reason I can't boot into LiveCD from my USB drive. I am going to load 10.10 on there anyway so I have an easier time getting around
[17:04] <NoXzema> itilious, what software are you using exactly?
[17:04] <eitch0000> hi guys. How is it, that eclipse has an application menu (no global menu) but applications which I write in Eclipse and start do not? Is this also some blacklist as with the panels? My application is Eclipse based
[17:04] <en1gma> was i supposed to highlight the recovery mode kernel and press 'e' on that one too
[17:04] <itilious> NoXzema, i'e tried filezilla ftp using ssh option,,, and the "connect to server" option built into ubuntu by default
[17:05] <Snicers-Work2> Unity doesn't work on Virtual Box, is this common?
[17:05] <itilious> both give me permission denied errors when i try to edit
[17:05] <ric000> Snicers-Work2, yes it is
[17:05] <IdleOne> Snicers-Work2: unity requires hardware acceleration
[17:05] <ric000> due to lack of 3D support
[17:05] <neo3> Has anybody monitor with native resolution 1680x1050_60?
[17:05] <Snicers-Work2> ric000, Are they planning a fix?
[17:05] <itilious> NoXzema, i'm using apache 2 for webserver if that was the question to the software,,, not the file transfer client if thats what you were asking
[17:05] <ric000> doubt it will be with us in the near future.
[17:06] <NoXzema> itilious, I'm asking about what FTP server.
[17:06] <Snicers-Work2> lame
[17:06] <ric000> heh
[17:06] <studentz> AceKing good luck.
[17:06] <yadira> robin0800, i can get into the device,,how can i add folder to device so i can mount ?
[17:06] <Psychobudgie> neo3, I have
[17:06] <itilious> NoXzema, vsftp
[17:06] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:07] <usr13> itilious: Best to just set up users for each account and then symlink the folder you want to serve to the /var/www folder.
[17:07] <AceKing> studentz, Thank you again!
[17:07] <Psychobudgie> neo3, using a Dell E207WFP
[17:07] <neo3> Psychobudgie: hold for a second, i will check
[17:07] <usr13> itilious: httpd.conf by default has FollwoSymlink  enabled
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Snicers-Work2:  use the unity-2d package
[17:08] <robin0800> yadira, the easy way is to instal nautilus-gksu then log out and back in
[17:08] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:08] <NoXzema> So, I'm confused. vsftp uses local users for user authentication (like most). Whatever user you want to be able to access /www/var (or whatever), can you not just setup up his permissions to be able to do so?
[17:08] <neo3> Psychobudgie: have edid.bin file for this monitor?
[17:08] <usr13> itilious: So you can do -l /home/itilious/html /var/www/My-WebSite
[17:09] <sss314> Is shrinking the root partition with a LiveCD safe?
[17:09] <usr13> itilious: So you can do ln -s /home/itilious/html /var/www/My-WebSite
[17:09] <usr13> (first one was typo)
[17:09] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you generate this file for me using nvidia X Server?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> sss314:  when in doubtg. make backups. I think it can work. jot down the UUID befor and  take note of it after the resize. ive heard cases where the uuid changes for some reason. this can goof things up
[17:10] <neo3> Psychobudgie: i can tell how, will you help me?
[17:10] <itilious> usr13, i instantly did a search on symlink when you said that and was about to ask if that very command is waht i need :)
[17:10] <usr13> itilious: And then you should see http://localhost/My-WebSite
[17:10] <tramm> Please give me a hint how to hide menu items (not delete) in gnome menu without using GUI menu editor. I see that there's a desktop file field "Hidden=true", but alacarte menu editor seems to hide menu items differently. Any ideas where to look? I mean what files and where? Or some clear documentation?
[17:10] <itilious> usr13, i've been looking for this forever and just simply couldnt find out the search terms i needed to find the solution, thanks so much:)
[17:10] <usr13> itilious: np
[17:10] <sss314> Dr_Willis, How do I jot down the UUID?
[17:10] <Psychobudgie> neo3, why do you need an edid.bin file?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> tramm: alacarts adds some extra files in the users home. I think they get merged/override the system .desktop files
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[17:12] <itilious> usr13, is this option permanent tho?
[17:12] <neo3> Psychobudgie: my nvidia driver cannot detect EDID info from my LCD, so i must to set up it manualy. Please Nvidia X server Settings, then go to DFP-0 and push "Acquire EDID..."
[17:12] <AntonioBlob> hi, where is the errnos.h file?
[17:12] <yadira> robin0800, gksu-nautilus didnt doit for me buddy
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !find errnos.h
[17:13] <Psychobudgie> neo3 : you are assuming I'm using an nvidia gpu
[17:13] <Harith> hi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8972359&postcount=3 ... where to create this file "wm.sh" and how?
[17:13] <XChats> good day, is it possible to start the gnome-terminal into byobu? tnx
[17:13] <xangua> yadira: gksu nautilus , not gksu-nautilus
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm. odd
[17:13] <sipior> AntonioBlob: you mean errno.h, i think.
[17:13] <AntonioBlob> it is errnos.h or errno.h
[17:13] <AntonioBlob> yes errno.h
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> !find errno.h
[17:13] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you generate edid.bin file?
[17:14] <Psychobudgie> neo3, already have
[17:14] <falserunes> Is anyone else having a problem with X and corrupting pictures
[17:14] <xangua> !anyone | falserunes
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> 'pictures' meaning what exactly?
[17:14] <yadira> yadira, the easy way is to instal nautilus-gksu then log out and back in,,,i installed that buddy,,o y try your suggestion
[17:15] <mikestro> Support channel..eh?
[17:15] <falserunes> well, I set a bg and after adding an icon it kindof corrupts behind it
[17:15] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you send email? transfer don't work
[17:15] <johnm> rename u1201 purple_fb
[17:15] <johnm> save
[17:15] <soyo> So here is something interesting... I can sudo, but have an authentication failure with the same password trying to su (I installed the OS on here though it should be the same passwd)
[17:15] <Psychobudgie> neo3, gimme a sec
[17:15] <falserunes> almost like bad resolution, but in patches
[17:15] <mikestro> hey, I need help with my webcam, can anybody help me out?
[17:16] <itilious> usr13, i ran the command but nothign is showing up in the folder
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  su ing to what account. root by default on ubuntu has no password so you cant 'su' to root
[17:16] <xangua> !anyone | mikestro
[17:16] <soyo> Dr_Willis: I just typed su with nothing else
[17:16] <mikestro> ok ubottu
[17:17] <whoever> no video , no boot with 11.04. anyone else experience this ? the only thing i can come up with is that there is a prob with the nouveau driver
[17:17] <robin0800> yadira, did you install nautilus-gksu?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  su dont work by default to root. use sudo to get root access.
[17:17] <mikestro> Does anybody here have any success getting video and audio capture from the webcam on a Dell Inspiron Mini 1012?
[17:18] <neo3> Psychobudgie: can you retry transfer?
[17:18] <ric000> soyo, you also change su password
[17:18] <ric000> using sudo passwd su
[17:18] <gururur> hello
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> thers no need to set the root password.
[17:18] <Roasted> Has anybody else found Unity 2D to be really slow compared to 3D when navigating the menus? I seen to have some odd momentum scrolling in the 2D menu that makes it SLOW, whereas in 3D I don't have it. It almost makes 3D... faster...
[17:18] <gururur> i need help with a wireless issue in ubuntu
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> !wireless
[17:19] <ric000> Dr_Willis, why don't you suggest changing the su password?
[17:19] <Rziz> sudo -i also gives you a root shell
[17:19] <soyo> Dr_Willis: Well if I don't set the root passwd how can I cd into a directory owned by another user?
[17:19] <falserunes> you have to chown that folder
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> ric000:  because its not needed.. and not reccomended by the channel
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> ric000:  its not changeing the 'su' password.. its creatimng a 'root' user password.
[17:19] <usr13> itilious: I was using hypothetical values. You need to put your own dir names in those places.  Right?  Show me the command you used...
[17:19] <gururur> why do you have to go through all the trouble to get wireless working in ubuntu?
[17:20] <falserunes> sudo chown user folder right
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> soyo:   you an use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell if needed
[17:20] <Rziz> absolutely no need to chown anything, just sudo -i
[17:20] <gururur> has anything changing from 10.10 to 11.04 as far as wireless goes?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  if the user has the correct permissions on their directories. you can cd into the,
[17:20] <ric000> Dr_Willis: and what is the risk of creating a 'root' user password?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | soyo
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[17:20] <falserunes> yeah that's right
[17:20] <Rziz> it's undesireable to mess with ownerships if not needed, imo
[17:20] <soyo> Dr_Willis: that could work. Thanks and ric00 too
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> security is all about layers and  the proper secure 'process' to do things. :)
[17:21] <Rziz> does ubuntu have xdg-su anyway?
[17:21] <ric000> even in a home environment?
[17:21] <mikestro> Does anybody here have any idea getting video and audio capture from the webcam on a Dell Inspiron Mini 1012 to work?
[17:21] <B4ckBOneee> Hi, im trapped in a endless: v4l-dvb-dkms is being setup. How can i get rid of dkms?
[17:21] <Rziz> or something like xdg-sudo , i mean
[17:21] <subq> anyone know the recommended way to disable a service on bootup now? instead of update-rc.d disable ?
[17:22] <subq> seems to be all sorts of, you can do it this way and that way, but looking for the recommended way...perhaps a "service" command?
[17:22] <atomicspin> I upgraded to Natty and now the backlight on my laptop doesn't work.
[17:22] <atomicspin> Works just fine in BIOS
[17:23] <mikestro> ..Anybody?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> subq:  one way . rename the services /etc/init/whatever.conf to /etc/init/whatvever.DONTRUN (or similer)
[17:23] <Rziz> probably an acpi problem
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> subq:  ive not noticed any command line tools (or gui tools) to manage the upstart services.  ive not looked lately for one..
[17:24] <Snicers-Work2> Is there a good set of text or video tutorials that outlines how to control permissions automatically (e.g. when a user creates a file in a certain folder, that file is set under a specific username and group with specific XXX permissions?)
[17:24] <robin0800> subq, you can stop and start services but where you put it to be permanent I don't know
[17:24] <Snicers-Work2> I am tired of manually changing all my permissions.
[17:24] <subq> yes start/stop all that easy
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Snicers-Work2:  I rarely ever need to even touch them. :)
[17:24] <victorhugo289> Hi, anyone else having problems with this program Celestia? All the fonts are unreadable here in Ubuntu 11.04
[17:24] <subq> i suppose i could just use the old method of update-rc.d disable
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> subq:  start/stop is not perment. just the correct way to start/stop services these days
[17:25] <subq> Dr_Willis: right
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> subq:  update-rc.d will NOT work with upstart managed services or at least it used to not work
[17:25] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: Access Control Lists is how you do what you want to do, but: why do you want to do that exactly?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> IIts possible some of the sysv tools ahve been updated to work with Upstart.
[17:25] <victorhugo289> I had the same problem with Google Earth but it fixed itself after reinstaling.
[17:25] <mikestro> I quite enjoy bashing my head on my keyboard.
[17:25] <subq> i know they pushing ppl away from sysv stuff, a lot of thing sstill use it though
[17:25] <NoXzema> Yo, I'm searching for a feature filled editor, mainly one meant for software development. I don't mind vim or emacs but I'd rather not have to learn all the keybinds.
[17:25] <victorhugo289> Anyone know what the issue could be?
[17:26] <subq> but give me a update-rc.d disable equivalent command :)
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, I will have multiple users on FTP, currently when they create files I want everyone to have read access and they don't.
[17:26] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: that's something you'd change in your ftpd's configuration
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, what about for ssh?
[17:26] <Snicers-Work2> for example, when someone touches a file to create it?
[17:27] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: umask controls permissions on new files but if you want it to vary depending on directories, then you need to use Access Control Lists
[17:28] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, But if I just want it to very on users I use umask?
[17:28] <mikestro> Is this really the support channel?
[17:28] <soyo> Is there a way to see the history or is there a log of from where a user deleted or created a file? I have people from MS computers on the network asking me why files are disappearing and reappearing... (Could be sync programs maybe?)
[17:28] <sipior> mikestro: it is.
[17:28] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: sure.
[17:28] <sipior> mikestro: something we can help you with?
[17:28] <falserunes> mikestro: do you have cheese installed?
[17:29] <Snicers-Work2> jrib, Thank you very much, I will study all of those options.
[17:29] <mikestro> Yes, but video capture is broken.
[17:29] <falserunes> how did you install cheese?
[17:29] <jrib> Snicers-Work2: setfacl and getfacl man pages for learning about access control lists (note you need to add "acl" to your mount options in fstab)
[17:29] <mikestro> From the software centre
[17:29] <soyo> I only have one username for everyone but can I tell if they created or deleted the folder from a certain IP?
[17:29] <Xriveryk>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:29] <sipior> soyo: well there's a disaster waiting to happen.
[17:30] <falserunes> but your webcam can see you
[17:30] <soyo> sipior: Yes I know..
[17:30] <mikestro> Cheese detects and gives output and takes photos fine, just the video capture doesn't work.
[17:31] <usr13> itilious: It will also take admin privileges to symlink into /var/www so you will need to preface the command with sudo
[17:31] <usr13> (Left that part out)
[17:31] <sipior> soyo: you could match up the file's creation time with the wtmp entries, but that obviously breaks down with multiple logins.
[17:31] <falserunes> mikestro:lookup video for linux
[17:32] <soyo> What is wtmp?
[17:32] <XChats> i have a gpg error during my update im on lucid the error was this :GPG error: http://mirrors.us.kernel.org lucid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[17:32] <sipior> soyo: try "last" at a terminal
[17:32] <XChats> how shoudl i fix this?
[17:32] <DrShoggoth> I have two natty installs on different hardware, and they both like to crash when I unlock them from the screensaver
[17:32] <DrShoggoth> is this a known issue?
[17:33] <sipior> DrShoggoth: both running the same screensaver?
[17:33] <mikestro> falserunes: ok
[17:33] <falserunes> is that kool?
[17:33] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Turn off screensaver
[17:33] <yadira> robin0800,  yes i install nautilus-gksu
[17:33] <soyo> sipior: looks like pts/2 would be the culprit..
[17:34] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Or trun off lock feature.
[17:34] <mikestro> I guess...
[17:34] <whitekidney> Hi there, ubuntu won't run a binary script, any idea why? http://pastebin.com/TnwihJwB
[17:34] <DrShoggoth> no, they are not
[17:34] <DrShoggoth> one of them runs sky tenticles, and the other is just blank screen
[17:34] <sipior> whitekidney: try prefixing that with "./"
[17:34] <soyo> Well could have been tty10 too..
[17:34] <tramm> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the hint, I think I found my hidden menus under ~/.local/share/applications and especially ~/.config/menus...
[17:34] <randomuser> soyo, adduser {bob,joe,mary,george}
[17:34] <usr13> DrShoggoth: Or trun off lock feature.
[17:35] <falserunes> mikestro: I paid $80 for a retail webcam and can't use it to it's potential
[17:35] <sipior> whitekidney: ("." is not in your PATH by default and design)
[17:35] <DrShoggoth> usr13, are you trolling?
[17:35] <usr13> DrShoggoth: No.  Are you?
[17:35] <soyo> randomuser: ironic with your nick too ;)
[17:35] <un_> hey que ta, chicos es que tengo problemas con mi pc, que tiene nvidia 310M y desde la version pasada de ubuntu tengo problemas apra isntalar compiz, alguna recomendacion?
[17:36] <ayecee> !es | un_
[17:36] <mikestro> falserunes: So the answer is that my webcam will never get proper video for the time being?
[17:36] <robin0800> yadira, then right click on the folder
[17:36] <sipior> DrShoggoth: i guess the tentacles were a given, considering your nick :-) do both machines lock up after a similar period of time?
[17:36] <randomuser> soyo, thanks. but seriously, its not like your running win95 here. Administer your system properly.
[17:36] <falserunes> un_: compis is already installed
[17:36] <xxxxxxxx> clear
[17:36] <mah454> where is youtube cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:36] <pigiman1> Hey, how can I connect to my ubuntu server that runs Jira with Tomcat from remote connection on port 8080 ?
[17:37] <mah454> where is youtube video cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:37] <enav> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD mORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:37] <falserunes> not saying that, just my specific model
[17:37] <oCean> pigiman1: add :8080 in the url
[17:37] <falserunes> most probably a bug in cheese
[17:38] <pigiman1> thats what I did
[17:38] <pigiman1> on localhost:8080 in my Ubuntu it works
[17:38] <shashankcoep> suggest nokia pc suite for ubuntu..
[17:38] <pigiman1> from remote it doesnt
[17:38] <saimanoj> i need help any one please help me
[17:38] <soyo> randomuser: I know I should, just hard to get everyone else to play along.. May have to put my foot down though and just be like too bad.
[17:38] <ikonia> soyo: gnokii
[17:38] <mikestro> mmk, well all I have is the integrated camera and when I record video using guvcview the audio and video fall out of sync.
[17:39] <usr13> saimanoj: What is your problem?
[17:39] <randomuser> soyo, if you give them a username and password that aren't in /etc/sudoers, they dont hace a choice
[17:39] <xiaoy> Which is the best ssh/scp graphical client, Filezilla?
[17:39] <ric000> Has anybody had an issue with Oracle-xe service not starting in Ubuntu UNLESS connected to the internet?
[17:39] <falserunes> yeah, I think v4l is like a universal driver that works great once you get it installed
[17:39] <Jeff91> So for some reason apt-get keeps freezing on me when it gets to "unpacking replacement"
[17:39] <un_> yes, but alawys to screen after you install it and py pc crashes
[17:39] <falserunes> been a while since I messed with it though
[17:39] <soyo> randomuser: oh I would never give them sudo
[17:39] <oCean> pigiman1: there is an #atlassian channel, maybe they know
[17:39] <pigiman1> will check ,thanks
[17:40] <un_> yes, but always to the screen after you install it and my pc crashes
[17:40] <saimanoj> usr13: I have installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 11.04 Natty and i am facing many problems with it.
[17:40] <randomuser> soyo, either way, each person has to remember one username and password. What difference does it make if they are the only one to use that?
[17:40] <shashankcoep> sorry i disconnected and miss the replies
[17:40] <usr13> saimanoj: Start with one...
[17:40] <shashankcoep> can anyone suggest nokia pc suite for ubuntu..
[17:40] <mikestro> v4l should already be installed, how do I check?
[17:40] <saimanoj> usr13: My videos are displaying in different colours
[17:41] <saimanoj> like blue for skin colour etc.
[17:41] <coz_>   hey all
[17:41] <mah454> where is youtube video cache in ubuntu-11.04 (FireFox Browser)
[17:41] <usr13> saimanoj: What video card is it?
[17:41] <coz_> mah454,   /tmp
[17:41] <usr13> saimanoj: lspci | pastebinit
[17:41] <falserunes> check your package manager
[17:41] <robin0800> shashankcoep, there's one for windows don't know if it works in wine though
[17:42] <falserunes> also try installing dv4l
[17:42] <un_> but i have installed ubuntu 11.04 and the problem continous
[17:42] <mah454> coz_ in ubuntu-11.04 not in /tmp . i can not find file !
[17:42] <usr13> saimanoj: ... and send resulting URL.
[17:42] <coz_> mah454,  not sure then
[17:42] <soyo> randomuser: Good point.
[17:42] <filmedgnu> hi
[17:43] <shashankcoep> thank you all
[17:43] <randomuser> soyo, then you set up a group for everyone, create a /groupfiles, etc
[17:43] <saimanoj> I am using Nvidia Graphic card. I did not face this problem previously. I used ubuntu 10.10 for many months and also 11.04 for sufficient time. But never faced this problem
[17:43] <malik> hi all,
[17:44] <phoenixsampras> HELP, what alternatives with UBUNTU, really I tried to use the unity stuff, but is UNUSABLE, is there any last distribution that could be good as Ubuntu ?
[17:44] <usr13> saimanoj: Are you using proprietary driver?  Or OS driver?
[17:44] <malik> How can i write a shell script to monitor a file so that as soon as there is a change in the file , i can perform an action
[17:44] <oCean> phoenixsampras: other distributions are not on topic here
[17:44] <sipior> malik: have a look at inotify
[17:44] <usr13> saimanoj: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:44] <robin0800> phoenixsampras, what's wrong with classic?
[17:44] <rizzeh> phoenixsampras, u can switch to gnome with ubuntu at login screen
[17:45] <sipior> malik: install the "inotify-tools" package for some starting points.
[17:45] <vacho> guys I did something terrible
[17:45] <zizban> Heck I like Unity. I even use Unity 2d
[17:45] <malik> ok sipior , let me have a look , thanks
[17:45] <Slor> trying again - I have Ubuntu 11.04 installed, and I would like to be able to VNC to that machine and have the GDM greeter there to allow me to log in (don't want to attach to existing login sessions).  I have set this up properly with previous releases, but I can't seem to find the magic for 11.04.  Been fiddling with different servers and adding stuff /etc/gdm/Init/Defaul, etc...
[17:45] <vacho> I played around in compiz and I messed up my UI ... how can I get it back?
[17:45] <jrib> malik: you might check out incron (which is like cron for inotify) as well depending on how you want to approach it
[17:45] <usr13> saimanoj: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #Tell us, or show is the output.
[17:45] <saimanoj> i installed restricted drivers. did u mean cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:45] <vacho> I messed around in compiz and It messed up my UI ... how can I get it back? can someone please help>?
[17:46] <eeriks> have anyone of you installed drivers for wifi usbś before tho i have someproblem with that now ??
[17:46] <mikestro> falserunes: v4l and dv4l are installed
[17:46] <robin0800> vacho, in compiz preferences you can set them back to defaults
[17:46] <usr13> saimanoj: Open a terminal, type  ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   hit enter, tell us what it says.
[17:46] <vacho> robin0800, do you know exacly where? I think I tried that but it did not work.
[17:46] <un_> nothing
[17:46] <falserunes> see if you can tweak some settings with v4l2ucp
[17:47] <saimanoj> usr13: thanks for ur help. it shows the same file name.
[17:47] <falserunes> you might have to install it too
[17:47] <saimanoj>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[17:47] <robin0800> vacho, yes in ccsm preferences
[17:47] <usr13> saimanoj:   suod rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:47] <usr13> saimanoj: And then log out and back in again.
[17:47] <vacho> hmm, let me try.
[17:47] <mikestro> ok
[17:47] <vacho> i had two options there right, unity and default
[17:47] <saimanoj> okay. I will back again. Once again thanks for your response.
[17:48] <usr13> np
[17:48] <un_> np
[17:48] <sjh1412> anyone got a some suggestions for some simple server monitoring software? after something that combines network/disk io, cpu load, ideally a way to dig into bandwidth / GET path like jnettop,
[17:49] <sjh1412> but something a lot smaller than say nagios!
[17:49] <rizzeh> sjh1412, then u won't like webmin :D
[17:49] <mikestro> falserunes: erm..this is embarassing..but my screen is to small to view the entire v4l2ucp window :|
[17:50] <robin0800> vacho, in the preferences screen under profile select unity and then reset to defaults
[17:50] <sjh1412> rizzeh, that project is still alive? jeebus...
[17:50] <malik> well sipior, jrib, i just looked up the inotify and incron. Can i use something that is by default available in a linux installation, actually i have to write a script to be run on different clusters where i can not install any software.
[17:51] <PhoenixSTF> hello, I am having some trouble with filezilla tranfering special chars..... it doesnt transfer them
[17:51] <tavish> hi, can anyone tell me possible places where a http proxy can be configured? i configured one somewhere, but i can't find where.
[17:51] <saimanoj> usr13: I did it and it is fine now and i forgot to tell that the problem is occasional. It happens only at some times randomly.
[17:52] <vacho> robin0800, I did that, did not help.
[17:52] <vacho> robin0800, I created a new user account and this new one works fine, is there a settings file I can just copy over to my old account to get it to work>?
[17:52] <usr13> saimanoj: Well, watch it for a while and see...
[17:52] <sipior> malik: well, inotify is available as part of the default kernel, typically, but you'd have to do some coding to make use of it. you might consider building a local copy of the inotify tools in your home directory or the like.
[17:52] <robin0800> vacho, log out and back in
[17:53] <vacho> robin0800, did that too..think the file replace thing will be best?
[17:53] <falserunes> you might have the capture resolution too big, which would probably be part of why it is out of sync
[17:53] <yadira> i format my terabite to xFat i cant see it anyways,,i installed a bounch of ntfs filesystem libraries and anything yet,,any more suggestions ?
[17:54] <Planet_EN> anyone here knows why this command fails?  ack-grep --css --column  "\b[^(tail)]end\b
[17:54] <saimanoj> usr13:One more problem recently is that the absense of the title bar of the Empathy IM when i press Alt+Space key combination is pressed when the Empathy IM window is active.
[17:54] <mang0> !pastebin
[17:54] <mikestro> how do I change the capture resolution?
[17:54] <sipior> Planet_EN: is the unclosed quote intentional?
[17:55] <malik> hmmm, ok  i check it , initially i was thinking of a simple script with a 'watch' on the file size to by monitored but i thought there might be better and more stable ways of doing it.
[17:55] <usr13> saimanoj:  I don't know about empathy.  You might try right clicking on it some place and see if it gives a context menu that might allow you to turn the title bar back on.
[17:55] <rizzeh> sjh1412, iftop? screen it with iotop :)
[17:55] <Planet_EN> sipior: no, sorry copied the command from terminal, there's an ending quote..
[17:55] <bassliner> hi there, so would one still want to use a seperate /boot partition on a todays system? i mean since grub is able to access partitions i could easily just integrate /boot into / and just create and use a / partition and a swap partition. is there a benefit in using a seperate /boot still? thanks.
[17:56] <falserunes> have you killed it yet
[17:56] <saimanoj> This problem started occuring after the change of the some changes in key combinations in ccsm
[17:56] <jrib> malik: you might not need to install anything if you write it in C, idk though
[17:56] <mikestro> v4l2ucp?
[17:56] <robin0800> bassliner, I don't but a seperate home is often suggested
[17:57] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605787/ Please help me for my boot loader problems!
[17:57] <mang0> click that for more info ^
[17:57] <saimanoj> not only empathy, also USC is behaving the same.
[17:57] <bassliner> robin0800: for what purpose?
[17:57] <rizzeh> bassliner, separate /boot is always a benefit, what if you'll want another 10 other distros installed :D
[17:57] <usr13> bassliner: That is up to the individual.  Personally I do not see a great advantage for separate partition for /boot.  I do see quite a bit of advantage in separt /home partition.
[17:58] <pedro> jav
[17:58] <usr13> *separate
[17:58] <bassliner> rizzeh: well thank you :)
[17:59] <rizzeh> bassliner, /boot is good if you use many distros, upgrade often. on a single OS system it is probably a waste
[17:59] <robin0800> bassliner, for new or re installs and yes I know its not needed these days
[18:00] <francesco_> You wake up to find yourself alone on a broken spaceship headed to a Penal Colony. The ship seems to want you to fix it, but first you need to get out of the room.
[18:00] <usr13> bassliner: Yea, as rizzeh says, if this is an experimental box where you are going to have several different Linux installs, yes, it could come in handy then, maybe... But otherwize not really.
[18:00] <sipior> francesco_: verbose
[18:00] <bassliner> usr13: if i'd really decide to drop the installation it holds i'd probably simply backup ~ and /etc and reinstall tbh...
[18:00] <saimanoj> Alt+Space is one of many key combinations i frequently use. So, every time i press it some window or the other is loosing its title bar.
[18:01] <milan> hello
[18:01] <toddc> grub2 is working for my triple boots very well
[18:01] <txtsd> guys I need serious help
[18:01] <bassliner> usr13: i mean maybe my way of thinking about partitioning is wrong, bad or stupid and i just do it because i'm lazy and used to the way i do, hence i'm asking...
[18:01] <usr13> bassliner: But if you have separate /home, the backup would be only in case you accidentally wipped it.
[18:02] <txtsd> My Ubuntu 11.04 boots up with 92% RAM maxed out
[18:02] <txtsd> Bootup is horrendously slow
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: hmm. true too...
[18:02] <txtsd> idk how to clear the RAM
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: yeah i think i want seperate partitions...
[18:02] <saimanoj> usr13:http://imagebin.org/152699 is the screenshot.
[18:02] <bassliner> usr13: thanks.
[18:02] <txtsd> System Monitor says the max RAM used by running processes is about 20MB
[18:02] <sipior> txtsd: and how much ram do you have at the moment?
[18:02] <txtsd> 2.9GB
[18:03] <txtsd> ~3GB
[18:03] <rizzeh> txtsd, run top command in terminal, see whats hogging the ram
[18:03] <txtsd> ok
[18:03] <milan> if anyone hear me type : moron
[18:03] <usr13> bassliner: That's what I usually do, 3 partitions: 1) swap  2) /  3) /home
[18:03] <ThinkT510> milan: you need help?
[18:03] <falserunes> yeah that, was what I was talking about, but it seems as though you are making progress
[18:04] <usr13> saimanoj: Looks ok now.  Right?
[18:04] <rizzeh> usr13, i have several separate disks thyat mount into home directories as video, music, photo
[18:04] <saimanoj> usr13:the videos are okay, but not the title bars, did u see the screenshot above?
[18:04] <txtsd> rizzeh: top 2 are gnome-system-mo and janitord both with %MEM = 0.1
[18:04] <usr13> rizzeh: I use ntfs
[18:04] <falserunes> however, I may not be able to help you, but as you can see, the real helpers are swamped
[18:05] <rizzeh> txtsd, install htop, apt-get install htop, its a bit easier to use tool
[18:05] <bassliner> so what partition should i make a primary one then? just /boot as primary, / and /home as extended partition?
[18:05] <txtsd> ok
[18:05] <usr13> rizzeh: I use nfs   #sorry that was a typo
[18:06] <bassliner> htop is VERY decent.
[18:06] <rizzeh> usr13,  big typo, i thought :D
[18:06] <falserunes> agreed
[18:06] <falserunes> htop is awesome
[18:06] <m1ndvirus> bassliner: Would you say EXTREMELY average?
[18:06] <usr13> rizzeh: In other words, I have some of that type stuff on a nfs share.
[18:06] <m1ndvirus> Or HUGELY mediocre?
[18:06] <saimanoj> usr13: please see this screenshot and understand the intensity of my problem. http://imagebin.org/152699
[18:07] <DDAZZA> I'm running Ubuntu and am experiencing not perfect video playback I have the ATI RV730 and would like to know what driver should I use to get best performance?
[18:07] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: Not a big deal.
[18:07] <rizzeh> bassliner,  tell us about the PC, how many harddrives, how many other OSes u planning to install?
[18:07] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: Are you able to type in a terminal?
[18:07] <usr13> rizzeh: On my home LAN I have the YL, mother-in-law, son, grandkids, (several PCs), so plenty of room to use nfs on the LAN
[18:07] <bassliner> rizzeh: quadcore, 8gb ram, just one single 64gb ssd running ubuntu/xubuntu.
[18:07] <saimanoj> yes i am able to type in a terminal.
[18:08] <m1ndvirus> saimanoj: `metacity --replace`
[18:08] <bassliner> rizzeh: will be my primary workstation here at home to get stuff done.
[18:08] <usr13> saimanoj: Im not sure what I'm looking at...?
[18:08] <rizzeh> bassliner, you don't need boot partition then
[18:09] <rizzeh> bassliner, mark / with boot flag
[18:09] <bassliner> so would i want to make as many partitions primary as i could? i know i could make 4 ones, but would that benefit in something? should i just use one primary and all the others extended?
[18:09] <usr13> saimanoj: I really don't see the problem.  Looks all right to me.
[18:09] <rizzeh> bassliner, with small harddrive, i would just go for 2 partitions
[18:10] <bassliner> ok fine
[18:10] <rizzeh> one / and one /home
[18:10] <rizzeh> the / partition doesnt need to be big
[18:10] <ThinkT510> bassliner: if you want more than one OS it is best to put linux in logical partitions because some OS's can only be installed on primary partitions
[18:10] <rizzeh> 10-20Gb
[18:11] <zus> i have an external 1TB hdd that was formated i lost EVERYTHING!!!!!! now it wont even show in my file manager to even begin  download everything again how can i get  it to show up as an option!!!
[18:11] <crazydiamond> Hi. My tty's were suddenly switch by pressing Alt+F1 ... Alt+F7. I need them be switched by Ctrl+Alt+F1 ... Ctrl+Alt+F7. Hwo to do it?
[18:11] <usr13> bassliner: You can allow a couple Gs for swap  15-20G for /  and the rest for /home
[18:12] <mbeierl> zus: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html might be able to help you.
[18:12] <mbeierl> zus: how did it get formatted?
[18:12] <rizzeh> usr13,  you right , forgot about swap,
[18:12] <bassliner> usr13: that was my thoughts exactly. i still couldn't find out if i want to use as many partitions as primary as possible or not...
[18:12] <zus> mbeierl,  i didnt realize which partition i was working on
[18:12] <saimanoj> can you tell me the command again.
[18:13] <usr13> bassliner: Since you are only using 3,  you can just stick with primary.
[18:13] <Mjolnir> is there anyway to install ubuntu without having to burn it to disk?
[18:13] <bassliner> also, does one use an SSD with linux? is s-ata trim important?
[18:13] <JoshDreamland> There is no /boot/grub/menu.lst. How can I change which partition is the default boot?
[18:14] <usr13> Mjolnir: Just burn the ISO into your brain and place your forhead firmly on the keyboard as you boot.....  sorry, couldn't resist.
[18:14] <francesco_> !list
[18:14] <mbeierl> zus: unfortunately formatting or altering the partition table is not reversible, but the majority of data is still there on the disk.  Programs like ddrescue or photorec search for file data patterns and attempt to recreate the original files that way.  it is not a trivial task, however
[18:14] <rizzeh> bassliner, sorry , too poor to try SSD yet :D
[18:14] <ThinkT510> JoshDreamland: it's now grub.cfg not menu.lst
[18:14] <JoshDreamland> Mjolnir: You can copy it to a flash drive
[18:14] <trism> JoshDreamland: change GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub;
[18:14] <usr13> !usb | Mjolnir
[18:15] <JoshDreamland> thanks, trism
[18:15] <bassliner> rizzeh: i just got the old one from a co-worker of mine for free, otherwise i'd be too poor as well. :)
[18:15] <zus> mbeierl,  but its not even an option in the file manager
[18:15] <Polah> is it possible to get rid of the left-side bar in Banshee? The one with Radio and suchlike listed?
[18:15] <Mjolnir> usr13: lol k thanks guys ill check that out
[18:16] <rizzeh> bassliner, http://linuxhcl.com/
[18:16] <DrHalan> hey
[18:16] <DrHalan> is there a stream for the uds?
[18:16] <westxx> I cannot update 11-04
[18:16] <magepsycho_> hi guys
[18:17] <magepsycho_> i just installed chrome
[18:17] <Polah> westxx: a little more information is needed for us to help you. There is a myriad of possible reasons as to why that is.
[18:17] <magepsycho_> now i would like to know how to open that
[18:17] <BlouBlou> westxx: What happens when you try to do it?
[18:17] <magepsycho_> where to get that program to run
[18:17] <BlouBlou> magepsycho_: how did you install it?
[18:18] <Polah> magepsycho: MagePsycho_: Assuming you're on GNOME, Apllications > Internet > Chrome, or you could create a launcher for "chrome" (or so I assume, the program name might be different)
[18:18] <Mjolnir> just wondering on this one, but if i go on my XP and use Daemon can i mount and install ubuntu that way?
[18:18] <trism> DrHalan: there are several streams here: 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-31-generic
[18:18] <trism> DrHalan: sorry, that wasn't it http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[18:18] <magepsycho_> yes Polah that works
[18:19] <txtsd> rizzeh it's horribly slow due to maxed RAM :(
[18:19] <magepsycho_> so ubuntu itself knows the categories?
[18:19] <magepsycho_> where to put that application
[18:19] <usr13> !wbi | Mjolnir
[18:19] <txtsd> "building dependecy tree list 72%"
[18:19] <mbeierl> zus: that is right.  there might be no partition table left, so it might not be able to be mounted.  that's why ddrescue might be your only option.  is it a removable (usb) drive?
[18:19] <westxx> my update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:19] <coz_> magepsycho_,   yes  it does if you mean installing
[18:19] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, you could install it using wubi
[18:19] <rizzeh> txtsd, did u install htop, what is the top mem usage process?
[18:19] <usr13> !wubi | Mjolnir
[18:19] <txtsd> rizzeh: it's still installing, is what I'm saying :P
[18:20] <Mjolnir> rumpe1: i thought wubi was a watered down version of a distro, is it not?
[18:20] <Polah> Mjolnir: Wubi isn't a proper installation though, it just resides in a folder in the Windows file system and thus requires Windows and its boot loader to run, it isn't independent as far as I'm aware.
[18:20] <mbeierl> zus: more information can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[18:20] <westxx> my update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:20] <DrHalan> @trism: thanks :)
[18:20] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, it's not as fast and not as stable as a "real" install... but for tests or other things its okay
[18:20] <DrHalan> sadly there aren't any videos of the uds yet.. would really like to see the keynot of marc
[18:21] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, at least it won't change your system very much
[18:21] <zus> mbeierl,  it is a usb external
[18:21] <Mjolnir> ok then i dont want it, but would mounting it work?
[18:21] <usr13> Mjolnir: wubi is not in it's native file system so some stuff isn't really like it ought to be, but it works and works well for what it is.
[18:21] <westxx> 11.04  update manager unable to initialized package information
[18:21] <Polah> !repeat: westxx
[18:21] <zus> it shows up in the live disc when ya open gparted
[18:21] <Polah> !repeat | westxx
[18:21] <magepsycho_> any good download manager for ubuntu?
[18:22] <rumpe1> Mjolnir, you have to boot from it for a "real" install
[18:22] <usr13> magepsycho_: wget
[18:22] <mbeierl> zus: does it still show as a device when you plug in it?  do a tail -f /var/log/messages with it unplugged.  then plug it in and pastebin the new lines that show up after you plug it in
[18:22] <magepsycho_> ok
[18:22] <magepsycho_> what about ratfat
[18:22] <v0lksman> any articles on how to keep Gnome in 11.04?  I'm not a big fan of unity
[18:22] <noob> how to symbol browser gedit in ubuntu 11.04
[18:22] <magepsycho_> some refered me this ratfat
[18:22] <coz_> westxx,   open a terminal...   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    see what it reports
[18:22] <tripelb> what's this? I cant copy part of a webpage, text + image into abiword. It doesnt do the image, only the text from the clipboard. Help?
[18:22] <Mjolnir> rumpe ah okay, then ill go the usb route
[18:22] <Polah> magepsycho_: Doesn't Chrome have a built-in manager like Firefox's downloads window?
[18:23] <Polah> coz_: I don't think dist-upgrade upgrades distribution anymore...
[18:23] <magepsycho_> yes but i want some resume capability
[18:23] <ThinkT510> !classic | v0lksman
[18:23] <tripelb> polah control-j in either browser.
[18:23] <magepsycho_> so that i can pause and download later
[18:23] <magepsycho_> so ratfat vs wget?
[18:23] <zus> mbeierl,  one sec
[18:23] <coz_> Polah,  no its not suppose to go to the next version  but i use dist-upgrade  especially with new releases
[18:23] <anonuser> Salut
[18:23] <Polah> tripelb: That jumps my cursor up to my search box
[18:23] <westxx> coz: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:23] <tripelb> magepsycho, you want that. I want it too. It's not there in ubuntu either.. I've posted that here before.
[18:23] <anonuser> Hi !
[18:23] <v0lksman> ThinkT510, awesome!  thanks!  so gnome is still installed as part of the ubuntu-desktop package just not the default manager?
[18:24] <magepsycho_> also i didn like 11.04 gnome
[18:24] <kaddi> how's natty so far? Any big issues due to which you would advise not to upgrade?
[18:24] <mbeierl> zus: certainly.  I also don't know your level of experience or familiarity with ubuntu, so let me know if I'm skipping over things that you might not understand.
[18:24] <ThinkT510> v0lksman: yes, its still there gnome 2
[18:24] <Polah> magepsycho: I don't know what ratfat is, but wget is a build in command for getting files (i.e. wget www.google.co.uk/magicalfile.zip)
[18:24] <magepsycho_> 10.x was better
[18:24] <tripelb> polah, for me that's control-F (makes the search box)  -- and both things I reposrt are standard afaik
[18:24] <coz_> magepsycho_,  you mean the classic session?
[18:24] <magepsycho_> yes
[18:24] <mbeierl> kaddi: only one I know of is iphone tethering for ios 4.x does not work at all nor is there a workaround.
[18:24] <dr3mro> how to symbol browser gedit in ubuntu 11.04
[18:24] <coz_> magepsycho_,  mm  I use it here,,what was the issue with it?
[18:24] <Polah> tripelb: Oh no, ctrl-F gives me the search box, I mean the internet search (i.e. Google) in the top right is what I get for ctrl-J
[18:25] <Polah> dr3mro: sudo apt-get install gedit perhaps
[18:25] <magepsycho_> the launcher is the big problem
[18:25] <duoduo2012web> what
[18:25] <usr13> magepsycho_: we don't know anything about ratfat   Best to use wget
[18:25] <tripelb> polah I will recheck.
[18:25] <kaddi> mbeierl: hmm, well that luckily wouldn't concern me.. I heard rumors about there being kernel panics with intel graphic chips again, which makes me weary
[18:25] <magepsycho_> since i need to open lots of files. it's very tedious to serch the old and use it again
[18:25] <coz_> magepsycho_,  oh that is the Unity session
[18:25] <kaddi> but i just started looking around and am collecting intel
[18:25] <magepsycho_> yes
[18:25] <Polah> Is anyone else experiencing the issue with 11.04 Classic where the GNOME context menus for items appear mis-spaces, with separators going through (behind) words, rather than inbetween lines?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: i use fatrat
[18:25] <coz_> magepsycho_,   if you log off of that and choose the classic session  you will be back to a more familiar interface
[18:26] <magepsycho_> yes i use that.. but i just mentioned that issue.. since i expected that newer version has some user friendliness
[18:26] <Polah> You can also default to classic by going to Login Screen, unlocking it and selecting Classic as the default environment
[18:26] <magepsycho_> but it isn't.. classic is far better for me
[18:26] <tripelb> polah, what is it that you want? I may have misunderstood. I get all my downloads, ability to prune the list or show an old one, and to search but only in the downloads list.
[18:26] <dr3mro> Polah, E: Unable to locate package perhaps ??? i need a symbol browser for gedit ?
[18:26] <Alarm> Selam
[18:27] <magepsycho_> i need to give a try for fatrat
[18:27] <coz_> magepsycho_,  ah sorry didnt see you post on that,,,
[18:27] <mbeierl> zus: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[18:27] <Polah> dr3mro: A symbol browser? Like Character Map? Try charmap in your command line
[18:27] <utilisateur> kbb
[18:27] <zus> mbeierl, kubuntu 11.04
[18:27] <magepsycho_> nope coz_
[18:27] <dr3mro> Polah, no i want it to view my source code classes .. functions .. variables?
[18:27] <magepsycho_> can you post me that linkk
[18:28] <djindy> Is there a terminal command to just continually display random information for a while? or something that's easy that acts like its doing something?
[18:28] <saimanoj> by executing metacity --replace the title bar is recovered but the system is hanging.
[18:28] <Polah> tripelb: I was saying that Chrome has a built-in downloads manager to magepsycho. Nothing I needed (:
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: not everyone likes Unity just like everyone doesn't like gnome. You have choice in Linux
[18:28] <usr13> djindy: tail -f /var/log/messages
[18:28] <mbeierl> zus: one moment.  I'm not on natty but it appears that /var/log/messages is no longer used there.  I'm looking to see what the replacement is.  unless someone else knows?
[18:28] <Polah> dr3mro: Syntax highlighting if you're using it for coding? I think gedit does basic syntax highlighting, but try bluefish for a wider ranger
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> magepsycho_: i use the web ui of fatrat and run it on my samba server.
[18:29] <francesco_> ~stitch@gw-ext.tagus.ist.utl.pt
[18:29] <djindy> usr13, cool, that's interesting, but I was hoping for something that would continually generate random messages so that it will keep changing.
[18:29] <usr13> djindy: Or  sudo tcpdump -i eth0
[18:29] <aby> Hello, I want to change the boot order of OSe's in GRUB2. How do I do that?
[18:30] <francesco_> !list
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: do you want kernel messages?
[18:30] <westxx> ubuntu 11.04 " update manager unable to initialized package information'
[18:30] <karlo> I have firefox 4 (on ubuntu 11.04) and flash is not loading ..its white and I can hear sound, but no image
[18:30] <coz_> westxx,  oh even after the upgrade commands?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Aby: do you want windows at the default?
[18:30] <usr13> djindy: Substitute eth0 with what ever interface you are connected to the net with.
[18:30] <aby> yea ActionParsnip
[18:30] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: yes.  I'm trying to help zus with seeing if his usb device has a partition table left for recovery and I'd like to see the usb/hal/insertion messages
[18:31] <magepsycho> coz_  u there
[18:31] <usr13> mbeierl: sudo fdiks -l
[18:31] <trism> mbeierl: in natty, /var/log/messages is commented out in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, you could always uncomment it and restart rsyslog if you want it back, although most interesting messages are in /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[18:31] <coz_> magepsycho,  yep
[18:31] <magepsycho> do you know the shortcut keys for opening the terminal?
[18:31] <djindy> usr13, thanks, I'm going to try out a few other things but these are good starting points.
[18:31] <magepsycho> and the post tht you are mentioning
[18:31] <aby> ctrl alt t
[18:31] <karlo> magepsycho, crtl alt T
[18:32] <coz_> magentar,  mm let me check the deafult keybinding
[18:32] <mbeierl> trism: as I'm not running natty - do you know if syslog would be where device detection shows up?
[18:32] <magepsycho> thanks it works
[18:32] <tripelb> polah, K
[18:32] <mbeierl> zus: try tail -f /var/log/syslog just to see if that one changes on insert of the USB drive
[18:32] <coz_> magepsycho,  I believe the default keybinding is   ctrl+alt+t
[18:32] <magepsycho> hey Actionparnship.. can you help me on installing fatrat
[18:32] <en1gma> im about ready to do an ubuntu 11.04 i386 desktop  install and i was wondering if there is a way not to install office
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> mbeierl: run: dmesg  and you will see the log
[18:33] <hcaine> Did some one have install VMWare on 11.04
[18:33] <mbeierl> ActionParsnip: is there a tail -f type follow command for dmesg?
[18:33] <trism> mbeierl: kern.log would probably have more information for device insertation
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Aby: have you not searched any? I've literally found thousands of guides
[18:33] <aby> yea
[18:33] <aby> but how to edit
[18:33] <ThinkT510> !vmware | hcaine
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Aby: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[18:33] <aby> i mean
[18:34] <aby> grub.cfg
[18:34] <francesco_> ciao
[18:34] <aby> I cant edit the file
[18:34] <francesco_> !list
[18:34] <zus> mbeierl,  one sec
[18:34] <mbeierl> zus: if not, try tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[18:34] <francesco_> Lista
[18:34] <user82> does anyone know how to select a radiobutton via keyboard? tab highlights them but enter does not work(starts the search button for example)
[18:34] <mbeierl> trism: thanks :)
[18:34] <iceroot> user82: space
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Aby: read the top 10 lines of grub.cfg will you. Just for me
[18:35] <en1gma> how do i do an ubuntu install without installing open office
[18:35] <user82> iceroot, thanks. always wanted to know that!
[18:35] <iceroot> !minimal | en1gma
[18:35] <iceroot> en1gma: or use 11.04 which doesnt contain open-office :)
[18:35] <zus> mbeierl,  it gave me something when i  plugged it in and  unplugged it
[18:35] <en1gma> i thought 11.04 had some kind of office in it
[18:35] <en1gma> its 2GB
[18:35] <mbeierl> zus: excellent.  anything about a /dev/sd... something?
[18:36] <iceroot> en1gma: libre office
[18:36] <Polah> en1gma: Libreoffice?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: use minimal and install the apps you wa
[18:36] <en1gma> ah maybe
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Nt
[18:36] <en1gma> ok gonna go look for it
[18:36] <en1gma> brb
[18:36] <zus> mbeierl,  let me  look
[18:36] <Polah> Applications > Office
[18:36] <coz_> en1gma,     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:36] <en1gma> thanks
[18:37] <coz_> !minimal
[18:37] <zus> mbeierl,  sdb
[18:38] <aby> ActionParsnip, I get mv: cannot stat `30_os-prober': No such file or directory when I do the 2nd command listed on the blog
[18:38] <zus> mbeierl, [sdb] 1953458176 512-byte logical blocks: (1.00 TB/931 GiB)
[18:38] <magepsycho> hey guys.. can you help me in making the fine resolution.. i am feeling some blurry font issue
[18:39] <mbeierl> zus: so the device itself is /dev/sdb - the RAW device.  what command did you use to "format" the drive?  and is there anything about a /dev/sdb1 or sdb2 ...?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> en1gma: or use Lubuntu, no open/libre office by default
[18:39] <en1gma> checking
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> aby: did you change directory to /etc/grub.d
[18:40] <magepsycho> any help on fiine resolution and removing blurry font guys?
[18:40] <zus> mbeierl, had the live disc in the drive but after changing the  drop down menu it must have not clicked to the HDD in the laptop
[18:40] <nan0-> hi all !
[18:40] <kaddi> hi!
[18:40] <aby> yea, I changed directory to /etc/grub.d and then only executed the first line
[18:40] <nan0-> I'm noob on irc ;)
[18:41] <aby> should I keep on cding to /etc/grub.d?
[18:41] <kaddi> well this is the place to ask all your questions about ubuntu ;)
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Aby: run: ls do you see the files named? I
[18:41] <nan0-> woop sorry
[18:41] <crazydiamond> How do I tty switching by Ctrl+Alt+Fn instead of Alt+Fn?
[18:41] <nan0-> i must change channel, bye :)
[18:41] <kaddi> bye
[18:41] <aby> hmm no
[18:42] <aby> its a little different
[18:42] <mbeierl> zus: I have to stop for a minute due to work.  can you hold?  read the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery on recovering a partition in the meantime
[18:42] <aby> but  think i can figure it out
[18:42] <zus> mbeierl,  sure
[18:42] <Roasted> Is there a way to speed up Unity on netbooks? The 2D version, to be frank, sucks, and the 3D version is pretty snappy however I'd like to make the actual overlay menu to work faster. Is there hope?
[18:42] <zus> just hilgiht my name when ya get back while i read this thank you
[18:43] <soreau> Roasted: Not if your graphics card / drivers suck
[18:43] <soreau> Roasted: What gpu is it?
[18:43] <Roasted> soreau, well, they do. lol...
[18:43] <Roasted> soreau, sec, I'll lspci it.
[18:43] <Roasted> soreau, GPU is Intel N10
[18:43] <hcaine> Before with 10.04 i use the raducotescu-vmware-server-linux-2.6.3x-kernel-release-1.5-1-g71f8b66.tar.gz patch for installation. But this patch ended with error. I have found that there is another patchvmware-server-2.0.2-203138-update.patch.gz available at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10761345. But i cant login to download it
[18:43] <Roasted> CPU is Atom
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Aby: in short, the number dictates position, if you swap the number in the filename between the Linux and Windows files it wi change the order. Use a different filename to switch with
[18:44] <Osmodivs> What is the output of "date -u +%W$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?
[18:44] <soreau> Roasted: You can ask in #intel-gfx if there's any way to make it better. AFAIK, you have 'the best' drivers available, which isn't saying much since most all intel gpu's and drivers mostly suck
[18:45] <soreau> Roasted: ie. be glad it works at all ;)
[18:45] <Roasted> soreau, I find that funny... because intel is the one company I felt I could rely on as they always had quality drivers. this is, of course, in regard to wireless.
[18:45] <Roasted> soreau, they're even better than atheros when it comes to wireless drivers for linux...
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Aby: if you read what is going on in the guide it makes sense
[18:45] <soreau> Roasted: How do you figure?
[18:45] <Polah>  Roasted: They certainly don't excel in graphics.
[18:45] <aby> yea I am kinda figuring it out ActionParsnip
[18:46] <aby> but is the 40_custom
[18:46] <Roasted> soreau, I've used a lot of different laptops with linux. after all, I have several hundred here to play with at work.
[18:46] <aby> the windows ?
[18:46] <Roasted> soreau, I'm just speaking from personal experience. I've only had 1 major issue with an atheros card. I've had DOZENS of major issues with broadcom, and I've had... zero... with intel. Intel was just my safe haven for wireless with linux.
[18:46] <soreau> Roasted: and Polah is right, comparing two completely different chipsets from the same company isn't a good idea. There are completely different driver development teams
[18:46] <Osmodivs> What's wrong with this command line? What is the output of "date -u +%W$(uname)|sha256sum|sed 's/\W//g'"?  I am trying to register at a Forum but apparently I suposed to have a correct terminal output, What's that command supose to show?
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, oh I absolutely agree with you.
[18:47] <Osmodivs> All I get is a <
[18:47] <harushimo> when I'm installing any new software from the source is it better to be in root
[18:47] <edwardthefma> hello all
[18:47] <harushimo> ?
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, I'm just trying to offer my insight since you specified "intel drivers suck." I was just trying to paint the picture that not ALL intel drivers suck :P
[18:47] <soreau> Roasted: I've always used atheros and it's justworked for me, since the ath*k drivers were released. Before then I'd have to use proprietary madwifi
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, in fact, this laptop came iwht an atheros card. and I took it out in favor of an intel card because its speeds with WPA2 were about 56k worthy.
[18:47] <Roasted> soreau, but once I dropped the intel in, bam - I was back in business.
[18:48] <soreau> Roasted: Oh I'm saying intel gpu's and drivers suck as in, the intel driver stack (kernel i915 module and ddx (xf86-intel-intel, the X driver))
[18:48] <Roasted> I gotcha. I just wanted to offer some wireless insight. ;)
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Aby: if its mentioned in the guide then probably. You will find guides like that all over, you need to shuffle those files around then run: sudo update-grub    to apply
[18:48] <wes__> really stumped here, gotta ask one more time then punt: I want to change the behavior of pm-utils (on Natty) so that it does not modify the laptop-mode kernel settings (ever).  I've been using laptop-mode to reduce CF-wearout (by only flushing disk cache every 10 minutes).  This has worked well, but the new version of pm-utils in Natty seems quite different and I cannot figure out how to re-configure it...
[18:48] <aby> k
[18:48] <Roasted> It's a real shame though, because this laptop is solid and very lightweight to use. I just wish unity ran a bit better on it. And it runs great. Right now I'm using 220mb of RAM... but the actual overlay in unity runs so slow to populate available programs.
[18:49] <edwardthefma> how can i upgrade ubuntu 10.10 to 11
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade
[18:49] <soreau> Roasted: Yea I generally judge by how many people come through a major channel like this with issues. So far, I don't think I've had to assist one person with intel wifi but several people with atheros wifi that has a switch..
[18:50] <Polah> edwardthefma: Administration > Update Manager, if it doesn't say there's a new distribution available, go to Settings > Set "Release Upgrades" to "Normal Releases", close it, click "Check" and it should come up
[18:50] <Roasted> soreau, it does make me wonder if I should just utilize xfce on this laptop. Pity, because unity is beautiful... but then again xfce is rock solid too.
[18:50] <soreau> Roasted: Yea I guess you could try allocating more vram to the intel gpu? not sure if it would help, try #intel-gfx
[18:50] <soreau> Roasted: You could also try 'INTEL_BATCH=1 compiz --replace' but I think ubuntu already uses it when it detects intel gpu
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> mikestro: Roasted  dont forget Lubuntu/lxde :)
[18:52] <Roasted> Dr_Willis, I've tried LXDE. I'm not quite sure about it yet...
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> hmm. double nick comlpetion... heh
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> Roasted:  its a work in progress.. but i find it very useable.
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Hopefully it will be an official variant.. soon
[18:54] <GrimmVarg> hey guys! Anyone running 11.04 on a Aspire One 751h ? :)
[18:54] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[18:54] <magepsycho> how to pin the eclipse to panel?
[18:55] <bin_bash> Apt-get --purge remove skype SHOULD remove EVERYTHING from skype, right?
[18:55] <myself> :P
[18:55] <KM0201> bin_bash: i think so.
[18:55] <bastidrazor> bin_bash: everything except what is left in your ~/
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> magepsycho:  Eclipse seems problematic. Proberly because of how it starts. ive not seen a quick answer to how to do it in here yet.  The ubuntu forums or askubuntu.com may have a better answer
[18:55] <bin_bash> bastidrazor: okay. that explains why i had to manually rm the .Skype directory
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> bin_bash:  it will NOT touch settings in the users home.
[18:56] <myself> español, alguien?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> thats a feature of the package manager system. :) leave home alone.
[18:56] <KM0201> hm
[18:56] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  the only issue I found with lxde is no multiple monitor support  or rather pcman thingy whateverits called
[18:56] <bin_bash> Has anyone else had problems with skype continually disconnecting and then reconnecting at random intervals?
[18:56] <bastidrazor> myself: #ubuntu-es for espanol
[18:56] <magepsycho> which one is good editor for ubuntu  (PHP)
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  cant say that i really noticed.  My 2nd montior died. :)
[18:56] <bastidrazor> magepsycho: scite
[18:56] <aaaaalex> bin_bash: must be M$ starting to lock out Linux already?
[18:56] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  ooo sorry to hear that,,must be a painful experience now
[18:56] <myself> ok.. first time using irc T_T
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> coz_: id rather see them use rox filer. :) but rox is weird in other ways
[18:57] <magepsycho> i tried netbeans.. it was too slow in ubuntu
[18:57] <magepsycho> eclipse pdt seems much better
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  I can now use a smaller desk. :)
[18:57] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  understood :)
[18:57] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: I srsly doubt it, as this is a brand new problem.
[18:57] <aaaaalex> bin_bash, sorry for joking
[18:57] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  go to a thrift store ,,pick up a cheak crt :)
[18:57] <aaaaalex> i dont seem to have the issue
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  i got a dozen of them.. :) in the garrage.. i give them away to whoever wants them
[18:58] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  pick up a "cheap" one I menat
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  ive seen LCD's 19" for under $100 on sale.
[18:58] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: I'm all for jokes and everything, but this is a serious and continuous problem for me, as other VOIP programs don't seem to work the way I need them too. It seems that skype either causes kernel panics, or doesn't stay connected
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  saveing up for a nicer bigger lcd. then move this smaller one to the 2nd display port.
[18:58] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   ooooo cool price ,, maybe not great  contrast etc but still :)
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> To many monitors seem to do just 1080p and thats it.. You have to look hard for ones that can do higher.
[18:59] <Mjolnir> is there a way, if you are dualbooting windows and linux, that you can have a shared desktop folder, or  any folder that both os's can see and write???
[18:59] <embracred-34> oi
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> Mjolnir:  linux can read/write ntfs just fine.
[18:59] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  for sure
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[18:59] <bin_bash> Mjolnir: good luck with Windows seeing anything, but Linux can read your ntfs file
[18:59] <codex84> why im always getting disconnected
[18:59] <aaaaalex> bin_bash, i have been running skype all day - using natty and latest version: can not confirm the issue
[18:59] <embracred-34> ond vc estao
[18:59] <codex84> like i have power of the router
[18:59] <Mjolnir> bin_bash thats my issue
[18:59] <codex84> off*
[19:00] <codex84> and click auto eth0
[19:00] <mang0> Bother.
[19:00] <coco> aaaaalex: I wonder if we will be able to use skype now that windows bought it
[19:00] <embracred-34> q
[19:00] <bin_bash> aaaaalex: Yeah, I was using it just fine for a while. did a couple updates, and then BAM skype doesn't want to work. Purged it twice al;ready.
[19:00] <embracred-34> onde
[19:00] <KM0201> coco: when did that happen?
[19:00] <coco> today
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if remove/reinstalling will fix things.. thats windows thinking. ;)
[19:00] <coco> windows bought skype today
[19:00] <aaaaalex> Mjolnir, you can also write to your ntfs partition from linux
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> coco:  you mean 'microsoft' bought it?
[19:00] <bin_bash> Mjolnir: Unfortunately you won't be able to read ext3/4 on either Windows or OS X
[19:00] <KM0201> wow.
[19:01] <coco> yes microsoft
[19:01] <coco> horrible news!!
[19:01] <tensorpudding> there's an ext3 driver for Windows, but it might not do ext4
[19:01] <bin_bash> Dr_Willis: I decided to purge everything, as perhaps it was a problem with the configs
[19:01] <oCean> coco: this channel is for support, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:01] <tensorpudding> also it doesn't feel as safe as ntfs-3g, for instance
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Ive heard of ext4 for windows.. but no tried it.
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> the ext3 readers for windows - have messed up badly on my linux partitons.. I dont trust it much.
[19:01] <tensorpudding> I don't think it does an ACL mapping like NTFS-3g does either
[19:02] <tensorpudding> so for interoperability it's not that stellar.
[19:02] <aaaaalex> Mjolnir, i have my ntfs partition mounted and can write to it fine. this thread should point you in the right directionhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439196
[19:03] <gemenon> anyone familiar with how to change the shortcut buttons for apps in the launcher on 11.04?
[19:05] <aaaaalex> gemenon, the launchers are to be found in /usr/share/applications. if you want to change an icon you can do it in the respective .desktop file
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> gemenon: change in what way?
[19:06] <gemenon> sorry that was poorly worded, i meant to say keyboard shortcuts for each app.  i don't want to use #-s-a-f-t as it is default
[19:08] <aaaaalex> gemenon, afaik. those are hard coded into the place/lense code
[19:09] <bin_bash> Dr_Willis: While it may be a windows mentality to purge and reinstall, it seemed to have worked ;)
[19:10] <deejay> hey
[19:10] <karl__> Hey guys I installed 11.04 and performance sucks I have 512 mb of ram what can I do to make things faster
[19:10] <gemenon> would it be possible to disable those and run some other app which will allow me to specify shortcuts for commands/apps?
[19:10] <Viper550> Okay, little question - on the VESA video driver, is there a reason why the cursor disappears every time you click something?
[19:10] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Remember yesterday you were helpong me with skype and it was continually disconnecting and reconnecting?
[19:10] <maco> karl__: get more ram or turn off unity?
[19:10] <coco> karl__: 512mb ram is not enough
[19:10] <deejay> what the hell is this lol just found it on ma laptop
[19:10] <maco> deejay: this is the ubuntu tech support channel
[19:11] <karl__> maco how do I turn off unity?
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> karl__: what video chip does the system have?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> bin_bash: or it may have been you messing with the user settings.. or a server fluke. :) or the phase of the moon.
[19:11] <maco> karl__: when you login, choose classic
[19:11] <deejay> okay then for what likes just for chatting or for computer stuff
[19:11] <maco> karl__: there's an options menu
[19:11] <maco> deejay: for getting help with using ubuntu
[19:11] <karl__> ActionParsnip radeon 9550
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: ah yes
[19:11] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: It happened in the other user as well
[19:11] <karl__> maco I set it to auto login
[19:11] <maco> deejay: if you want to just chat about computers, join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-tech-support topics
[19:12] <maco> karl__: if you log out, it'll let you reach the login screen. change it there and make classic default, then when you autologin itll stick to classic
[19:12] <bin_bash> Dr_Willis: I'm wondering if maybe it's that /skype/ account because i logged in with a different one this time
[19:12] <Viper550> Hmm? It's happening on virtualbox and on this other laptop that can't do unity
[19:12] <Guest15326> i've installed ubuntu on my entire hd, used gparted to resize the partition to use half of the whole space to install windows aswell. the problem is, i cannot boot on the linux anymore, there's no option. whenever the computer starts it choose windows, there's no way to choose linux anymore. any idea?
[19:12] <deejay> well tis chat is quite shit
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> karl__: if you disable effects, is it faster?
[19:12] <maco> deejay: watch your language, please
[19:12] <karl__> brb guys logging in and out
[19:12] <deejay> what you cant swear omg what kind of chat is this
[19:13] <karl__> *out and in
[19:13] <coco> Viper550: i have the same problem i cant try unity in vbox
[19:13] <maco> deejay: this is an official tech support channel
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest15326: boot liveCd a
[19:13] <Viper550> coco: install additions. enable accleration
[19:13] <deejay> well why the hell is it on my laptop :S
[19:13] <Polah> Guest15326: You installed Windows after Ubuntu? You have to reinstall GRUB. The Window bootloader writes over GRUB in the MBR and only allows you to boot Windows. You always need to install Ubuntu after Windows so that GRUB is your bootloader to be able to load both OSes
[19:13] <maco> deejay: therefore, we expect everyone to behave *professionally*  -- we have rules here. please see the /topic for the Code of Conduct and the IRC Guidelines
[19:13] <Polah> deejay: Because you or someone else put it there, obviously.
[19:13] <coco> Viper550: i did...still tell me i dont have the good hardware to try unity
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest15326: reinstate grub2 there
[19:13] <deejay> so whats your name maco  then
[19:14] <maco> deejay: that is not a tech support question
[19:14] <Corey> !ot | deejay
[19:14] <Guest15326> and how do i install grub again if i cannot access the ubuntu anymore?
[19:14] <mang0> LiveCD
[19:14] <deejay> where do u live so i can come along an murder you
[19:14] <maco> deejay: if you want to know how to change your screen resolution or install new software, those are valid types of questions
[19:14] <Guest15326> k
[19:15] <nickor> can i clear off all my data on my ubuntu install without having to do a reinstall? looking for a command to get rid of all docs / settings so its like new?
[19:15] <karl__> oh my god classic with no effects is so nice
[19:15] <Dr_Willis> Weird. I just added a new printer - went to print test page.. failed.. looked around and for some reason it was 'disabled' by default.
[19:15] <maco> nickor: all user settings are in the user's home directory
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Ask for support then troll. Interesting combo
[19:15] <karl__> Thanks guys mission success
[19:16] <deejay> why why did u kick me off
[19:16] <Guest15326> so i have to use ubuntu livecd, install the GRUB using synaptic package manager or reinstall the whole o.s? if it's the whole o.s i'll just sit there and cry.
[19:16] <maco> nickor: they're usually in hidden folders that start with a .
[19:16] <maco> deejay: death threats are completely inappropriate.  now, follow the rules, or leave
[19:16] <Corey> !guidelines > maco
[19:16] <deejay> aye okay calm yer beans
[19:16] <Corey> Er.
[19:16] <maco> Corey: what?
[19:16] <Corey> !guidelines > deejay
[19:16] <nickor> maco so if i goto home dir look for all dirs that start with . and erase them?
[19:16] <Polah> Guest15326: Boot off the LiveCD and run grub-install.
[19:16] <maco> nickor: yup
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest15326:  you can  'install grub to the mbr' from the licve cd, or chroot into the installed os and do it from there.
[19:16] <Corey> maco: Crossed mental threads there. :-)
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Guest15326
[19:16] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Do you think my skype account could be the problem? Is that even possible?
[19:16] <deejay> how ae i see ur private message
[19:16] <deejay> dae
[19:17] <Polah> !guidelines | deejay
[19:17] <deejay> na i dotn nee the guide lines
[19:17] <Guest15326> thanks
[19:17] <Polah> Deejay: I think you do.
[19:17] <deejay> peanuts
[19:17] <mbeierl> zus: I am free now.  How are things looking?  did anyone help you in the meantime?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest15326: you are only fixing the bootloader which is done from liveCd. There are hundreds of guides how to do it
[19:17] <maco> deejay: click the link, read, and decide to follow -- else, leave
[19:17] <deejay> i will follow
[19:17] <bassliner> hello, i get a black screen in grub and also while booting my machine, but gdm shows okay. i'm using a radeon hd5850. any help?
[19:18] <deejay> yea someone is hacking you :I
[19:18] <bin_bash> deejay: Stop... first of all, lrn2troll. Second of all, this is a /support/ channel. Unless you're going to give/get support, then please leave. kthxbai
[19:18] <coco> deejay why u so angry
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: doubt it but its worth exploring. Which version do you have of the client? Skype can be a real ass
[19:19] <maco> bassliner: could try using "nomodeset" on the kernel boot line (hold shift at grub time and modify the line that has "quiet splash")
[19:19] <anagmagna> is there a method to install/uninstall packages on a system so that it matches exactly the packages that are installed on another system?
[19:19] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: It's 2.2. I was having problems with 2.1 as well. I purged everything (again) and deleted the config dir from my home folder.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> !clone | anagmagna
[19:20] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I decided to try logging in with another account, and I was able to make a call and skype hasn't disconnected at all.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: do you use proprietory driver like nvidia
[19:20] <anagmagna> Dr_Willis: cheers!
[19:20] <mang0> Guys, please help, i'm about to go insane. http://paste.ubuntu.com/605787/
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> anagmagna:  if on a local lan. you may want to set up one machine as an apt-cacher-ng server
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> anagmagna:  that will save download times.
[19:20] <bassliner> ActionParsnip: will try. thank you.
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-cache-ng
[19:20] <mang0> !bootloader
[19:20] <mang0> bum.
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: a different skype user or different ubuntu user?
[19:21] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Different skype user.
[19:21] <dr3mro> does any one here managed to use gedit with symbol browser in ubuntu 11.04
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Bassliner: it was a question.....
[19:21] <anagmagna> !automate
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Bin_bash: but the same system username as when you started?
[19:22] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Yep. I tried in another Ubuntu user (Test) and got the exact same problem.
[19:22] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[19:22] <maxo> sometimes I get a blue curve in the top left corner in unity. What does this mean?
[19:23] <usr13> mang0:  reinstall grub
[19:23] <aaaaalex> maxo: it means that one or more items in your laucher 'require your attention'
[19:24] <usr13> mang0:  and this time to the primary drive's MBR
[19:24] <maxo> aaaaalex, ah ok. that's not very clear though! hmmm
[19:24] <mang0> usr13: What do you mean?
[19:24] <mang0> sorry, I'm an ubuntu noob
[19:24] <mang0> been using it for 6 days
[19:24] <aaaaalex> maxo, i agree. but unity is just a baby :-D
[19:25] <maxo> also, if I use the window switcher with meta+w - there's no way to see which window is highlighted when using the keyboard. Is there a way to change this?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: i'd ask skype then. The software and setup are clearly ok as you have tested. They may try fob you off saying the setup is bad but you can tell them what's what
[19:25] <usr13> !grub | mang0
[19:25] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: Okay. Thanks so much for your help and patience. I really appreciate it. If all else fails, I guess we can use gtalk lol
[19:26] <aaaaalex> maxo, actually... ther little triangle on the RIGHT side of the active window will follow your selection
[19:26] <coco> gtalk works in ubuntu?
[19:26] <mang0> k ty
[19:26] <coco> i dont think gtalk is available for linux
[19:26] <maxo> aaaaalex, but that's on the launcher - if I'm looking at the screenshots of the windows, it means I need to keep looking back and forth
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> bin_bash: you were civil and patient too so you deserve it :-)
[19:26] <bin_bash> coco: There's a webclient
[19:27] <aaaaalex> maxo, if you do SUPER+w, the launcher is displayed
[19:27] <menew> Hi
[19:27] <maxo> aaaaalex, yes but I mean in terms of my eyes - I need to keep looking left, right ,left right ...
[19:27] <coco> anyone know why ubuntu wont recognise a mic
[19:27] <bin_bash> ActionParsnip: I'm STILL confused as to why it was causing kernel panics with NOTHING about it in the logs. Although, I'm not 100% sure it was a kernel issue, it was definite an entire system crash
[19:27] <menew> how can i check for a specific package update?
[19:28] <aaaaalex> maxb, i know.... just saying
[19:28] <kyubutsu> maxo: you can also use the directional keys to select the app you wish to switch to (while on meta-w mode) or even click the app to go to it
[19:28] <maco> maxo: is that the one with the little bitty windows?
[19:28] <bin_bash> coco: Is it an internal or external mic
[19:28] <maxo> kyubutsu, yes but what I mean is: I press meta+w, then I use the directional keys to select a screenshot, but there's no border around the screenshot or any indication of which one is selected other than by having to look at the launcher
[19:28] <maco> maxo: the focused one should be highlighted, but there's a scale plugins thing you can add to compiz and then set it to have a colour for the glow so its more obvious
[19:29] <usr13> mang0: Show us your grub config file so we can see if it looks ok.
[19:29] <coco> bin_bash: external comes with the headphone
[19:29] <aaaaalex> maxo if the window thumbs were ordered in the same order as the laucher this would make sense - as would introducing a border for the currently highlited window thumb
[19:29] <usr13> mang0: pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[19:29] <maxo> maco, I'm looking at the scale plugin at the mo but there doesn't seem to be an option for colours
[19:29] <bin_bash> coco: Do the headphones work?
[19:29] <mang0> sure. Whats the command to open it usr13 ? /boot/ oh
[19:29] <mang0> okay
[19:29] <usr13> mang0: And send resulting RUL
[19:29] <coco> its my friend i got her install ubuntu...but we cant speak on mic
[19:29] <kyubutsu> maxo: follow the shadow. the selection will be have a distinctive shade
[19:29] <menew> all: How can i check for a specific package update?
[19:29] <maco> maxo: i mean an extra plugin for the scale plugin...thats how it was described to me
[19:29] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605821/ usr13
[19:29] <coco> bin_bash: its brand new
[19:30] <aaaaalex> maco, oh there IS a glow? cool
[19:30] <maxo> kyubutsu, mine doesn't have a shadow
[19:30] <coco> bin_bash: on windows its working...on ubuntu she can hear ...mic not working
[19:30] <aaaaalex> yes there is :-D
[19:30] <menew> :(
[19:31] <kyubutsu> maxo: you have 3d effects enabled?
[19:31] <maxo> kyubutsu, yes
[19:31] <menew> help
[19:31] <menew> help anyone
[19:31] <maco> maxo: im asking the friend of mine who uses this
[19:31] <maxo> ok cool I found a scale addons plugin, and this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/775801
[19:32] <aaaaalex> menew, you want to find out if there is a pending upgrade to a specific package?
[19:32] <sergei> How do I know what bit rate my machine is 32 or 64?  Where do I look to find that info?
[19:33] <ITC> uname -a
[19:33] <Younder>  /join #math
[19:33] <Younder>  /join math
[19:33] <jeffrash> qq, will my dual monitor nvidia geforce 210 setup work in Natty with Unity?
[19:33] <bassliner> when i comment out the following lines in grub.cfg (i shouldn't edit it, i know), i at least get output while the machine is booting, tho i don't get a grub menu: http://paste.debian.net/116564/
[19:33] <menew> how can i check for update in python package??/
[19:33] <aaaaalex> sergei, uname -i
[19:33] <maco> maxo: scale addons -> appearance -> highlight .. set a semi-transparent colour and check the box above the colour picker
[19:34] <NoXzema> Where are the SDL development packages?
[19:34] <kyubutsu> yes, i can confirm there is no effective highlight for maximised apps when in window switcher mode
[19:34] <maxo> maco, yep got it, thanks :-)
[19:34] <bin_bash> I just had a full system freeze/crash. Which log should I look in to find out what went wrong?
[19:35] <eiriksvin> wow, i just had a rough experience...
[19:35] <NoXzema> I filter sdl under all of the development categories and they don't come up?
[19:35] <usr13> mang0: sudo update-grub
[19:35] <kyubutsu> i wouldnt consider it a bug but a usability issue
[19:35] <mang0> usr13: done that :/
[19:36] <NoXzema> nm, I found it..
[19:36] <eiriksvin> my 11.04 had a nVIDIA graphics card issue i couldn't fix so i had to go back to 10.10 the long way because ubuntu.com don't offer 10.10 for download as a live cd anymore
[19:37] <usr13> mang0: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #And show us resulting URL
[19:37] <eiriksvin> i had to get 10.04  LTS so i could upgrade to 10.10
[19:37] <mang0> k
[19:37] <bastidrazor> sergei: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm   ..if you get output you have a 64bit capable processor
[19:37] <kyubutsu> eiriksvin: the official torrents page has all the available versions
[19:37] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/605824/ usr13
[19:38] <eiriksvin> omg i had no idea
[19:38] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[19:38] <Sonja> has anyone noticed mouse problems in natty? like sometimes the link in browser or chat client won't work
[19:38] <ITC> try to boot with 2.6.35 kernel
[19:38] <Sonja> unless you hover over it in just the right way
[19:38] <ITC> eiriksvin > grub > kernel 2.6.35 will boot a 11.04
[19:38] <victorhugo289> Hi
[19:38] <KM0201> Grominx: was it you that PM'd me the other day?
[19:39] <ITC> still don t know when an oofical driver will come out
[19:39] <bastidrazor> bullgard4: possibly something in /etc/fstab is failing.
[19:39] <JoshDreamland> What's the default Ubuntu cursor theme called?
[19:39] <victorhugo289> Has any of you noticed that when Ubuntu starts you will momentarily see a different wallpaper if you've been on a different Ubuntu in the same Hard drive?
[19:39] <usr13> mang0: Oh, I see now that you have Linux on the primary disk and MS Windows on the slave drive.  There is no way to fix it.  You are stuck.  The only thing you can do is to use the F12 key or what ever to switch the drive the PC boots to.
[19:39] <bullgard4> bastidrazor: Can you elaborate.
[19:40] <mang0> usr13: woah, hold on, are you saying I could just hit f12 to switch?
[19:40] <mang0> FUUUUU
[19:40] <victorhugo289> I think Ubuntu doesn't clear the memory completely when it shuts down
[19:40] <mang0> ;__;
[19:40] <bastidrazor> bullgard4: a network mount was added to /etc/fstab but is failing to mount on boot.
[19:40] <eiriksvin> ITC i know, but i want gnome 3 back, and i'm not happy with the limited amount of customization that compiz has in natty
[19:40] <usr13> mang0: Sorry, but the limitation is particular to MS Windows, (MS Windows is limited and can only boot from primary drive).
[19:40] <victorhugo289> I just pressed F12, but I didn't know what it was for.
[19:40] <Sonja> mang0:  what does f12 do?
[19:40] <maco> victorhugo289: is that on a warm reboot or even on cold boots hours later?
[19:40] <s3r3n1t7> mang0, mind the language please
[19:41] <JoshDreamland> I'd really appreciate it if someone could go into System->Preferences->Appearance, then click Customize, go to the cursor tab, and tell me which cursor theme is selected.
[19:41] <usr13> mang0: Probably, it that option is enabled in your BIOS.  Not all have that feature but a lot of them do.
[19:41] <victorhugo289> Sorry, Maco, I think "Warm reboot" is best bet.
[19:41] <mang0> sorry, just realised I wasted 6 days...
[19:41] <maco> victorhugo289: it does take up to like 5 minutes of no more power in the system for memory to ...lose its memory
[19:41] <mang0> usr13: my bios is quite old though...
[19:41] <eiriksvin> ITC in comparison gnome3 was much better on the customization than Natty is so for... in time i'll update, after we all open it up a bit more
[19:41] <aaaaalex> JoshDreamland, DMZ(White)
[19:41] <victorhugo289> I have two Ubuntus in my computer, after I've been on 10.04 I will momentarily see the same wallpaper when loggin in to Natty
[19:42] <usr13> mang0: Well, the F12 thing has been around for some time now.  You can look and see.  But the problem you have can not be fixed with grub.
[19:42] <kyubutsu> eiriksvin: gnome3 is not officially supported though
[19:42] <bullgard4> bastidrazor: Hm. These messages only appear on this computer after I upgraded to 10.04. I can connect to LAN as usual.
[19:42] <victorhugo289> Today I logged into my old (10.04) Ubuntu and now apparently some things have changed here in Natty.
[19:42] <igi691> how can I remove this line echo hidp | sudo tee -a /etc/modules from my configuration?
[19:42] <mang0> usr13: okay, thanks. :)
[19:43] <ITC> eiriksvin > i could not notice a difference between gnomes with classic ubuntu and not the unity, will investigate
[19:43] <bullgard4> bastidrazor: '~$ route' has not changed.
[19:43] <usr13> mang0: Alternately, you could change the drives around so that the MS Windows drive is primary and the Ubuntu drive is slave. But if you do that, there will be a number of things in the Ubuntu configs that will need to be changed so that it will boot and run right.
[19:43] <usr13> mang0: but try the F12 thing first.
[19:43] <bullgard4> s/has/output has/
[19:43] <victorhugo289> Try F12
[19:43] <eiriksvin> kyubutsu, even though something isn't officially supported, that don't mean it can't be just as good or better than some of the supported types
[19:43] <mang0> I will usr13. So where in the bios would that option be?
[19:43] <victorhugo289> WHat is that supposed to DO!!!?
[19:44] <usr13> mang0: I don't know
[19:44] <victorhugo289> I pressed F12 3 times already
[19:44] <bastidrazor> sergei: please keep things in channel: if you had output from that command your processor is capable of running a 64bit OS.
[19:44] <sergei> Thank you so much
[19:44] <eiriksvin> look at me, i had to upgrade firfox the long way, just to keep my machine clean from "Natty restrictions"
[19:45] <kyubutsu> eiriksvin: do at your own risk
[19:45] <weedfast> hi
[19:45] <Gangrel> can someone tell my why i cannot see skype icon minimized on taskbar? when i press "x" instead of minimizing it dissapears but still running
[19:45] <Engin> I have updated my hosts .ssh/authorized_keys with my local .ssh/id_rsa.pub... but it still asks me for password when I ssh. Any idea ?
[19:46] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, are you sure you haven't mixed your keys around?
[19:46] <Engin> I have just generated them, uploaded to the server and copied on the user which I'd be logged in by
[19:46] <jrib> Engin: check permissions; connect in verbose mode; run server in debug mode
[19:46] <bastidrazor> bullgard4: to verify it is actually something in fstab. once booted do: sudo mount -a  :this will attempt to mount anything that is not mounted in fstab. if you still get errors that comfirms its an entry in fstab giving issues.
[19:46] <eiriksvin> kyubutsu well i don't know if i even need to go to gnome3, but compiz simple, has alot more options in Maverick than it does in Natty, more options is better in my book:)
[19:48] <ChosenOne> how would I see wehther fsck is [B/part[B[B[B[B[B[B[B/part
[19:48] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, did you generate those as a different user then the user who would login?
[19:48] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, local machine is a cygwin environment and the user is different
[19:49] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, I haven't done this before, hence there could many misassumptions I'm having at the moment
[19:49] <magepsycho> guys where is the to increase the brightness
[19:49] <bullgard4> bastidrazor: I think this is unsuitable. The messages mentioned appear early in the boot process. I will be able to do '~$ sudo mount a' only much later.
[19:49] <magepsycho> also i can't see the battery status
[19:49] <magepsycho> i am on laptop
[19:49] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, i'm probably going to blame cygwin for messing it up then. Also, it's best if you generate the keys as the user who is going to login with them.
[19:49] <usr13> magepsycho: Laptop?
[19:49] <usr13> magepsycho: Refer to owner's manual.....
[19:50] <xsinick_laptop> does any one has information on the popularity of Natty
[19:50] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, do you know what is going on here ? how does this work ?
[19:50] <magepsycho> nope.. i mean where is the option for ubuntu
[19:50] <magepsycho> to increase brightness
[19:50] <ITC> Does anyone has gnome sometimes freezing in 11.04 with ATI card a priori just before loading the login lightbox for software that require sudo level ? need to restart service gdm each time grrrr
[19:50] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, there's my cygwin username and host in the id_rsa.pub... where the host won't match with my internet host. I don't know if that'd matter.
[19:50] <usr13> magepsycho: Or just look around the keyboard.  You might see it labeled.
[19:51] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, the host should match the sending host, not the server host
[19:51] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, it matches neither of them, it is VAIO :)
[19:51] <igi691> how can I remove this line echo hidp | sudo tee -a /etc/modules from my configuration?
[19:51] <igi691> I wrote in gnome-terminal: sudo nano modules
[19:51] <igi691> there was hidp at the end and I deleted it and saved it
[19:51] <igi691> does it mean that the hidp will not be loaded?
[19:51] <magepsycho> how to show battery status
[19:51] <FloodBot1> igi691: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <magepsycho> it's not showing in panel
[19:51] <s3r3n1t7> engin, do you have a VAIO laptop which happens to be called just that?
[19:51] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, of course
[19:51] <nickor> ok im in my home dir i have no dirs that have .
[19:52] <salihk> hello guys, i just upgrade my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04. I am having an graphical issue. Graphics are a little bit slow. When i try to minimize the window it doesn't act smoothly. What can cause this situation ? My graphic card is Ati radeon 4650
[19:52] <nickor> i deleted all my music and docs from the desktop
[19:52] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, cygwin extracted that information from computer name I guess
[19:52] <xsinick_laptop> does any one have information on the popularity of Natty
[19:52] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, then it does match the sending host
[19:52] <nickor> its seems like it will be like new for my friend
[19:52] <Engin> anyway, it shouldn't matter because I won't have a static sending host anyway
[19:52] <xsinick_laptop> like a linux  poll
[19:52] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, it will be static in such a way, that cygwin trusts your laptop's name won't change.
[19:52] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, oh you mean... hmm, I mean I'm sshing to the server from the exact environment I've generated keys.
[19:53] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, ok let's try it this way then ... you have a cygwin user that's generated the keys correct? Can you use that user to login to the server?
[19:53] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, well, that'd be inconvenient, just to test you mean ?
[19:53] <s3r3n1t7> yes
[19:54] <eiriksvin> does anyone know off hand what the ppa and file name for adobe 10?
[19:55] <xsinick_laptop> eiriksvin:  adobe has a ppa? you mean adobe flash?
[19:55] <etheretic> Hello :-) Q: How to access a file in a custom directory from the root directory of a memory stick one's current Ubuntu session is running from?
[19:55] <milen8204> anyone knows a program for .flv to .mp3 converter ?
[19:55] <BlouBlou> xsinick_laptop:  I don't think so
[19:56] <BlouBlou> milamber: winff + libmpeg
[19:56] <BlouBlou> err, milen8204 ^
[19:56] <BlouBlou> !winff | milen8204
[19:56] <BlouBlou> !info winff
[19:57] <guest4684> test
[19:57] <Class> hello i want to be able to control remote pc via gui ssh -X is very slow and teamviewr is same too
[19:57] <xsinick_laptop> etheretic:  please install ubuntu to avoid these issues 10.04 is best
[19:57] <Class> what do you guys advice me to use ?
[19:58] <anagmagna> oopsie... replicated packages off another laptop and now my video driver doesn't seem to want to allow me to use unity.  VGA = Intel Corp Mobile 4 Series
[19:58] <Relevant> Hi
[19:58] <NoXzema> Class, why not just try it via commands?
[19:58] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, ok, now it asks for the passphrase
[19:58] <guest4684> hi! How long will it usually take to install ubuntu from a usb memory? I tried it earlier, but had to leave and abort it and get to work, but im wondering wheter it worked or not. It was just loading and the pointer was spinning for like 5 minutes. Normal?
[19:58] <ramrebol_> hi. I can't Stop syncing the dropbox folder by ubuntu one. How I can force this?
[19:58] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, you want key auth with passphrase?
[19:58] <NoXzema> Class, remote control via X is naturally slow anyways. It's kind always been that way.
[19:58] <Class> NoXzema, i want to run virtualbox on remote pc
[19:58] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, nope
[19:58] <NoXzema> Class, why?
[19:58] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, so i can assume you didn't give it a passphrase when creating the keys right? Just checking ...
[19:59] <Class> NoXzema, i have windows there
[19:59] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, i did, because it asked
[19:59] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, leave the passphrase empty :)
[19:59] <karl__> I was trying to edit software sources and I broke ubuntu software center what do I do?
[19:59] <NoXzema> Class, so you want to run windows through a virtual box running on Linux remotely?
[19:59] <Class> just need to run some shit program that need .net framework
[19:59] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, ok that'll do this, but I want this for another user
[19:59] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, recreate the keys, when it asks for a passphrase leave it empty (just hit enter) and it'll continue
[19:59] <Class> NoXzema, yes thats right
[19:59] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, well you can move the keys once we're sure it works for this user
[20:00] <thegladiator> quite often the hyperlinks and buttons in my netbook is not responding
[20:00] <NoXzema> Class, I'm gonna have to say that is crappy. :/ Your options are limited other than VNC really...
[20:00] <anagmagna> how can i get the video driver back to the right one
[20:00] <xsinick_laptop> NoXzema: is good for your face
[20:00] <xsinick_laptop> lol
[20:00] <etheretic> xsinick_laptop: fell off for a mo - reply?
[20:00] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, ssh-keygen -p can change the passphrase fyi, I just changed it to empty one, and now it logins without any interaction!
[20:00] <NoXzema> xsinick_laptop?
[20:00] <karl__> is there some way to revert /etc/apt/sources.list to its original installed contents?
[20:00] <s3r3n1t7> xsinick_laptop, etheretic, can you try to stay on topic?
[20:00] <igi691> is it true that gnome-bluetooth does not work in 11.04 Natty?
[20:01] <ramrebol_> I can't Stop syncing the dropbox folder by ubuntu one. How I can force this?
[20:01] <BlouBlou> igi691: at least, not with me
[20:01] <thegladiator> its like random hyperlinks dont respond , be it google com .....or say some save cancel etc in gedit when you close it with a active file
[20:01] <BlouBlou> igi691: I am trying to fix it, but nothing
[20:01] <Class> NoXzema, can you tell me the package name ?
[20:01] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, good to know *mental note* good that it logs in. Now you can move the keys to the appropriate users and try it again
[20:01] <etheretic> s3r3n1t7: check input focus.
[20:01] <igi691> bloeblou: hasve you tried bluez?
[20:01] <guest4684> hi! How long will it usually take to install ubuntu from a usb memory? I tried it earlier, but had to leave and abort it and get to work, but im wondering wheter it worked or not. It was just loading and the pointer was spinning for like 5 minutes. Normal?
[20:01] <SillyPants> is there some way to revert /etc/apt/sources.list to its original installed contents?
[20:01] <christoph_> Hello. Today, my unity theme simply changed without me doing anything. How can I change it back to the default one?
[20:02] <NoXzema> Class, I can't ascertain that VNC is actually your best option but there are various VNC clients and servers.
[20:02] <milen8204> BlouBlou,  thanks
[20:02] <BlouBlou> igi691: yes, but same. It seems it's a kernel problem or a ubuntu problem, not bluetooth-managers' one
[20:02] <NoXzema> Class, if at all possible, avoid the Windows app.
[20:02] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, i think the problem was the permissions of the authorized_keys
[20:02] <[dlp]> What does the update-apt-xapian-index do?
[20:02] <[dlp]> ^process
[20:02] <froopyfrood> can i use "Ubuntu Classic" instead of Unity on the Live CD?
[20:02] <igi691> @Bloublou did gnome-blue tooth worked under 10.04 Maverick?
[20:02] <BlouBlou> igi691: Yes, and under 10.10 too
[20:02] <Class> NoXzema, thanks
[20:03] <Class> i will find some vnc client/server
[20:03] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, yup it works now, the problem was that, in our second testing I made it correctly so it worked.
[20:03] <Class> and install it
[20:03] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, good to hear :-)
[20:03] <etheretic> I need to read a file which is on the memory stick i 'm currently running Ubuntu from. A non-standard directory in /.
[20:03] <Engin> s3r3n1t7, thanks for your time
[20:03] <s3r3n1t7> Engin, you're most welcome
[20:04] <usr13> etheretic: What file do you need to read?
[20:04] <weedfast> hi
[20:04] <etheretic> usr13: txt.
[20:04] <igi691> @BlouBlou with my configuration did not work under 9.04, 10.04 either 10.10; but I had another HDD in the same PC that worked under 10.10; I have been trying to solve my problem with bluetooth changing the configuration, can you help me?
[20:04] <usr13> etheretic: cat txt.
[20:04] <xsinick_laptop> etheretic:  i assume it's a windows format  so try samba to see if you can get in the partion
[20:05] <temp> Hey could someone please help me find a way to access the terminal? I just installed slim and xmonad, and pressing alt+shift+enter doesn't give me a terminal. How can I boot straight to the terminal so I can try and find a solution? Sorry I would ask the arch community but I need access to the terminal to enter a verification code to use the forums. Thanks in advance.
[20:05] <etheretic> xsinick_laptop: w8...
[20:05] <usr13> temp: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[20:05] <dp> I'm trying to install lekhonee-gnome, but it has a dependency on python-gtkhtml2, which doesn't exist on natty apparently
[20:06] <temp> OMG usr13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
[20:06] <SillyPants> I am getting E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[20:06] <SillyPants> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[20:06] <SillyPants> \
[20:06] <usr13> temp: NP
[20:06] <teddyroosebelt> someday, ubuntu will bring back blackjack, i will be so happy when this day comes
[20:06] <temp> I've been sitting doing nothing for a very long time. Thank you!
[20:06] <BlouBlou> igi691: well, I don't know. I didn't configure anything, I just pluged it, changed config (it restarted automatically always when app reloaded) and done. (Change config = NOT manually, I mean from gnome app)
[20:06] <etheretic> xsinick_laptop: It's a vanilla 10.10 install-onna-stick - no samba.
[20:06] <igi691> @Bloublou I have posted in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353 about my configuration problem
[20:06] <techcrisis> is there a shoutcut key to lock ubuntu something like in windows?
[20:06] <njo> hey escotti finally got that thinclient script working
[20:06] <xsinick_laptop> get another thumb stick put ubuntu on it
[20:07] <xsinick_laptop> then plug in the second one
[20:07] <etheretic> xsinick_laptop: not available atm.
[20:07] <xsinick_laptop> at you will get your file
[20:07] <semizilla> techcrisis: yes there should be -- either a apci key (like laptops have with a lock icon) or something in the keyboard shortcuts configuration
[20:08] <usr13> techcrisis: Ctrl-Alt-L
[20:08] <usr13> maybe ^^^
[20:08] <anagmagna> unity used to work on my laptop, now it doesn't seem to operate.  how can i re-enable it?
[20:08] <techcrisis> thanks
[20:08] <SillyPants> Is there anyone with a fresh 11.04 install here?
[20:08] <Drake|> pretty much fresh yes SillyPants
[20:08] <ramrebol_> ubuntu one don't work fine.
[20:08] <etheretic> xsinick_laptop: am i in a munchenhausen situation?
[20:09] <mysteriousdarren> yes
[20:09] <SillyPants> can you give me your /etc/apt/sources.list I somehow messed up my default one
[20:09] <Drake|> sure.. i have only added one but can remove that :)
[20:09] <SillyPants> cool thanks
[20:09] <Drake|> dosnt work anyway :p
[20:09] <BlouBlou> igi691: I posted a problem today too, it seems Ubuntu detects bluetooth, but it's unable to send/receive files from mobiles/PCs...
[20:09] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: install compiz and you can find the plugin and reenable it
[20:10] <Arska134> hi everyone. Just asking if somebody solved that Additional driver problem?
[20:10] <BlouBlou> Arska134: installed but not in use?
[20:10] <Arska134> yeah
[20:10] <BlouBlou> Arska134: it's still in launchpad, waitting to be fixed
[20:10] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: compizconfig settings manager?
[20:10] <BlouBlou> Arska134: try installing experimental ones
[20:10] <xsinick_laptop> yes
[20:10] <Arska134> yes i tried
[20:11] <dr3mro> how to change the sorting of indicators in unity
[20:11] <BlouBlou> Arska134: Well, nouveau ones work fine for me
[20:11] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: also a simply reboot shoud fix it
[20:11] <Arska134> tried everything but nothing working. Problem came up when i upgraded to 11.04
[20:11] <root__> hey
[20:12] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna:  also natty is not as goo as 10.04 so report this error to the ubuntu team
[20:12] <xsinick_laptop> good*
[20:12] <Arska134> Launchpad has many report about same problem so can someone give me link to "official" one?
[20:12] <root__> how do i create a user if i am running off a flash drive
[20:12] <weedfast> w
[20:13] <weedfast> set theme default.theme
[20:13] <feydr> anyone else have their cpu slapped around w/skype 64bit? it works over here perfectly fine but it always spikes a core or two..
[20:13] <xsinick_laptop> root___: flash drive are mostly for quick  internet browsing and evaluational purposes
[20:14] <ryoohki_> i just upgraded to natty narwhal and my weather applet, and other applets, are gone from the top bar
[20:14] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: ok.  i started to get a message stating that my card couldnt' support unity.    this started to happen after i upgraded packages off of a list from another laptop.  could some xwindows settings been overwritten?
[20:14] <tudalex> feydr: yeap skype does that also on 32 bit
[20:14] <Daekdroom> ryoohki_, natty's new interface, unity, doesn't support applets.
[20:14] <feydr> oh so it's not just me.. :/ ... damn
[20:14] <tudalex> with 80% on a i7-2630
[20:14] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: the other laptop has an ATI Catalyst video card, but mine has intel mobile 4
[20:14] <ryoohki_> Daekdroom: ok.  when will they fix that?!
[20:14] <feydr> no work-arounds? it didn't always use to be like this... like a year or so ago I don't remember having these probs
[20:15] <weedfast> quit
[20:15] <Daekdroom> ryoohki_, probably never, but you can go back to classic gnome.
[20:15] <roland0fgilead> Skype has gotten lazy with their code
[20:15] <afrodeity> I'm experiencing problems with a lot of applications gui not being drawn properly, for example streamtuner
[20:15] <thegladiator> I am seeing a unique problem in my system after I installed Natty
[20:15] <quint> skype was bought by m$oft
[20:15] <ryoohki_> Daekdroom: what's the draw for unity?  looks like a step back
[20:15] <Arska134> this will solve my problem   Ubuntuforums.org "farooq23": "Yes, downgrading xserver to 1.9 fixes nvidia driver issue."
[20:15] <tudalex> the advantages of the beta skype ...
[20:15] <timboy> Running 2nd gen intel core series t420 is there a way to get display working in 10.10? I really don't like 11.04 unity crap.
[20:15] <Arska134> or am i wrong?
[20:16] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: to avoid driver and xwindows  errors please do fresh install on a per machine bases
[20:16] <feydr> right... chances of them giving us some <3 ... hehhe..
[20:16] <thegladiator> When i drag the mouse over the middle region of my laptop , it doesnt respond
[20:16] <Daekdroom> ryoohki_, this specific thing is actually a feature. The gnome-panel code was awfully written, and not even GNOME team is trying to repeat that feature with Gnome Shell.
[20:16] <feydr> tudalex: I have 'beta 2.x' whatever that is -- unless there is an even newer vers
[20:16] <thegladiator> Meaning I cant click on anything thats in the middle of the screen
[20:16] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: yeah, i'm thinking i totally shot myself in the foot there
[20:16] <quint> guarantee m$soft will make linux users unable to use skype
[20:16] <quint> downer.
[20:16] <tensorpudding> did they say that?
[20:17] <xsinick_laptop> Ubuntu natty narwhal has graphic card issues becuase of the unity interface being a little more intensive than gnome was
[20:17] <quint> nope, but its just something they like to do :P
[20:17] <ryoohki_> Daekdroom: but as a consumber, i liked it
[20:17] <klamb> I can't seem to connect to my workplace VPN, using Ubuntu 11.04 network-manager, connection fails every time
[20:17] <roland0fgilead> quint: I doubt that, they'll probably just use it for tighter integration on their own platforms
[20:17] <Daekdroom> ryoohki_, might as well use classic gnome then
[20:17] <quint> like with thier faildows phone?
[20:17] <ryoohki_> Daekdroom: yup
[20:17] <ryoohki_> Daekdroom: thanks!
[20:18] <thegladiator> Did anyone understand my problem ?
[20:18] <thegladiator> When i drag the mouse over the middle region of my laptop like for 3 lines , it doesnt respond
[20:18] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: there is a 2d version of unity  but I still do not trust that untill the bugs are wotked out
[20:18] <quint> okay, so im running lubuntu and my power button doesnt issue the shutdown command, ill press it and nothing happens, acpid is installed
[20:18] <thegladiator> Whether I have  a browser window opened , Whether I have a desktop application open
[20:19] <k-rad> i installed wine winetricks and playonlinux and it totally cluttered my natty unity menu and despite 2 menu editors the leftovers of that experiment in trash is leftover.  any idea how to clean my menu well of those windows things ?
[20:19] <bin_bash> If I were a log explaining a system crash/freeze, where would I be and what would I say?
[20:19] <endeavormac> i am trying to adjust to this new window manager. at the top of the screen, along the taskbar, i used to be able to add/remove widgets. i am at a loss as to how i can do this now. can someone please point me in the right direction?
[20:19] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: where did the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file go?
[20:20] <domowy> ..
[20:20] <timboy> Running 2nd gen intel core series t420 is there a way to get display working in 10.10? I really don't like 11.04 unity crap. If i just run newest kernel will it fix my issues?
[20:20] <k-rad> endeavormac, you can enable the system tray with a whitelist command but its somewhat limited in functionality from time to time, bug.
[20:20] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna:  you have to generate one as far as I know
[20:20] <dp> I'm trying to install lekhonee-gnome, but it has a dependency on python-gtkhtml2, which doesn't exist on natty apparently -- what can I do to fix it?
[20:20] <oldgregg> dp: compile it yourself?
[20:20] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: k.. thanks for the info!
[20:20] <endeavormac> k-rad how can i customize what's in my system tray
[20:21] <dp> oldgregg: I guess what I'm asking is why an ubuntu package depends on a package that's not available
[20:21] <endeavormac> k-rad there was a utility where i could select things i want up there. i forget where it is
[20:21] <k-rad> endeavormac, that is depedant on the applications you run.
[20:21] <k-rad> endeavormac, its used for minimizing
[20:21] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: intel mobile graphics don't seem to run the same on linux as they do on windows
[20:21] <quint> does anyone know why my power button ceases to do as i tell it?
[20:21] <k-rad> endeavormac, that is long gone i believe
[20:21] <xsinick_laptop> anagmagna: good luck
[20:22] <k-rad> i installed wine winetricks and playonlinux and it totally cluttered my natty unity menu and despite 2 menu editors the leftovers of that experiment in trash is leftover.  any idea how to clean my menu well of those windows things ?
[20:22] <mexicali> ello
[20:22] <anagmagna> xsinick_laptop: i'm going to try removing the ATI drivers that were installed by accident... then hopefully things will start working.  if not, no biggie, i'll re-install :)
[20:22] <xsinick_laptop> On linux you give up directx that is why gaming is almost impossible
[20:22] <mexicali> wooow this is nice
[20:22] <boomboorum> Is there any ubuntu dev's here?
[20:22] <Drake|> with winetrick u can install directx :p
[20:22] <thegladiator> There is some bug in GNOME I guess
[20:23] <thegladiator> Usuall when you move your mouse over a hyper link it gets highlighted right ?
[20:23] <mexicali> anyone downloaded bt5 yet?
[20:23] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[20:23] <xsinick_laptop> Linux doe s not natively support directx else we would pay for opensource linux like ubuntu
[20:23] <quint> why is it that directx cant be ported to linux?
[20:24] <mang0> Guys, how do i install a patch? for instance, http://pastebin.com/uTEwc0bx . I need to install it....I looked online, a bit confusing...
[20:24] <thegladiator> In my computer it doesnt highlight the hyper link whether its a browser or a xchat window --------if that hyper link is in particular area of my screen near bottom!!
[20:24] <xsinick_laptop> quint it can be but you would have to pay for it
[20:24] <quint> isn't directx free?
[20:24] <mang0> thegladiator: type /set gui_url_mod 0
[20:24] <endeavormac> let me try this. i want to put more widgets here: http://imgur.com/G5yQ1 how can i do this
[20:25] <xsinick_laptop> windows is 299.00 up
[20:25] <timing> Hi, how do I remove the alt+f2 keycommand?
[20:25] <thegladiator> mang0, this is not specific to XChat!
[20:25] <timing> i didn't ask for it
[20:25] <thegladiator> The same thing happens in my browser also
[20:25] <timing> it's not in the normal keyboard shortcuts
[20:25] <thegladiator> if the hyper link is in some 3 line thick area in my laptop monitor
[20:25] <trism> mang0: usually inside the source directory run: patch -p1 < /path/to/patchfile
[20:25] <mang0> thegladiator: that cmd means you can click a url once, and it will open in browswer
[20:25] <thegladiator> the mouse over it doesnt respond
[20:26] <thegladiator> no the problem is different
[20:26] <mang0> ah...
[20:26] <mang0> :/
[20:26] <xsinick_laptop> quint directx as far as I know is not free Microsoft made it and charges devs for using it
[20:26] <mang0> trism: so I have to download that file, and save it as a .txt file?
[20:26] <wuala> http://www.wuala.com/referral/GCHKJFB47JFN3PACGKFJ
[20:26] <trism> mang0: yes
[20:26] <mang0> k.
[20:26] <wuala> just found a free cloud provider
[20:26] <wuala> it is very cool
[20:26] <quint> damn proprietary software! i guess people's time is sort of worth something .. :(
[20:26] <mang0> called what wuala?
[20:26] <wuala> i have earned up to 4G
[20:27] <mang0> O.O
[20:27] <wuala> just to share with you all
[20:27] <s3r3n1t7> wuala, this is a support channel. Please don't advertise in here.
[20:28] <xsinick_laptop> wine try to make linux acess the directx fetures in your graphics card
[20:29] <xsinick_laptop> but wine and opengl devs are slackers becuse it is all free
[20:30] <xsinick_laptop> so like who cares when you not getting a dime
[20:30] <quint> thats how it is with open src
[20:30] <quint> well mostly
[20:30] <quint> its all about the money
[20:30] <xsinick_laptop> I personall don't mind pay someting for good quality
[20:31] <quint> we need a robot to dev for us
[20:31] <quint> some kind of program that will develop other programs
[20:31] <xsinick_laptop> just not high prices for an OS that you can only put on one comupter
[20:31] <usr13> xsinick_laptop:  Contribute to your favorite OS  project.
[20:31] <xsinick_laptop> I don't even mind paying for ubuntu
[20:32] <bullgard4> When booting, Natty displays in a short time the following 2 (3) startup messages on VT7: "i.) * Starting Mount network filesystems [OK]. ii.) *Stopping Mount network filesystems [OK]. iii.) [fail]." What program did write them?
[20:32] <xsinick_laptop> if it means the devs get payed for good work
[20:32] <policyq> ubuntu isn't profitable so they're getting paid whether you pay or not
[20:33] <roasted> Hey guys - Does anybody know how I can change the date stamps on pictures within Shotwell? It's coming up as 2006 even though the pictures were taken last month...
[20:33] <mman> why when i add a song into banshee, the song is added twice?
[20:33] <usr13> xsinick_laptop: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved/donate
[20:33] <xsinick_laptop> usr13:  my support can only go as ar as cash when I got it so, yes I can be a loyal costumer
[20:33] <doxin> my window decorator is misbehaving, all the titlebars on all the windows affect the same window. if they have titlebars at all. running  gtk-window-decorator in a terminal seems to fix it. any ideas on how to permafix?
[20:34] <usr13> roasted: Is your  camera clock off?
[20:34] <roasted> usr13, it may be, but the pictures were not taken with my camera, so I cannot answer that question accurately. Is there a way I can fix it within shotwell?
[20:34] <xsinick_laptop> but I wanna have directx in there so I can play gears of war
[20:35] <xsinick_laptop> and keep it so I can instal atleast up to  4 machines under the same license
[20:35] <quint> my power button does nothing, what should i do?
[20:36] <Saik> heyguys, I have a problem. all my taskbar icons are shifted to the left side. is there any way to fix that, AND lock he taskbar to hold its size and positions?
[20:36] <usr13> roasted: exiv2
[20:36] <mang0> how do I pause/delete/kill a process in terminal?
[20:36] <mang0> I'm installing something that I don't want to install...
[20:36] <quint> (im running lubuntu)
[20:36] <roasted> usr13, what is that?
[20:36] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: what version you got?
[20:36] <doxin> mang0: ctrl-c, but its not always a good idea, just uninstall later
[20:36] <Saik> 11.xx
[20:37] <spacebug-> mang0: 'ps' to show processes and then 'kill <pid>' to kill
[20:37] <mang0> okay doxin how do I uninstall?
[20:37] <usr13> roasted: Image metadata manipulation tool
[20:37] <adalgiso> mang0: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[20:37] <doxin> mang0: apt-get remove i think
[20:37] <mang0> with the package manager
[20:37] <mang0> ?
[20:37] <roasted> usr13, I cant do it within shotwell?
[20:37] <Saik> mand0, no,from command line
[20:37] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: sorry you should reboot that should fix it
[20:37] <usr13> roasted: I don't know.
[20:38] <Saik> xsinick_laptop, it does not
[20:38] <mang0> okay thanks
[20:38] <Entelin> quick question, i have a dell server whose motherboard died on me. I got a new identical system and put the hd's from the old system into the new one, and it booted fine.  However the network cards are now showing up as eth2 and 3 instead of 0 and 1,  how would I fix that?
[20:38] <quint> sudo gimme-a-beer
[20:38] <doxin> my window decorator is misbehaving, all the titlebars on all the windows affect the same window. if they have titlebars at all. running  gtk-window-decorator in a terminal seems to fix it. any ideas on how to permafix?
[20:39] <grendal_prime> grrr anyone using ucarp?
[20:39] <Entelin> er nm i just found it actually
[20:39] <grendal_prime> successfully?
[20:39] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: again Ubuntu 11 natty Narwhal is a bit buggy you may need to start a new account  or fresh install please use 10.04
[20:39] <quint> sudo i-need-help-with-my-power-button :P
[20:40] <Saik> xsinick_laptop, is there a way to avoid that? eve if it is time-conuming?
[20:40] <xsinick_laptop> hmmm
[20:40] <Saik> I'd rather not have to explan to my mother her user was screwed up..
[20:40] <usr13> Entelin: Edit /etc/iftab file
[20:41] <blip-> I got a new laptop and planning to install a form of Ubuntu on it, most likely the latest Kubuntu.  Is 64-bit pretty much ready at this point ?  It's a hybrid ie it can run 32-bit apps as well right ?  Any thoughts ?
[20:41] <blip-> oh and hi :)
[20:41] <Raptors> hey guys, I'm in ubuntu live CD and I can'e use my USB drive
[20:41] <Raptors> it's saying it's read only
[20:41] <Raptors> :/
[20:41] <timboy> Running 2nd gen intel core series t420 is there a way to get display working in 10.10? I really don't like 11.04 unity crap. If i just run newest kernel will it fix my issues?
[20:42] <XonConXtreme> Hey guys :D
[20:42] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: I lost abunch of costumers when they upgraded to natty so right now I just avoid it for serious use i just use good old 10.04 (perfection0
[20:42] <XonConXtreme> Don't want to be leeching but where is the link for the 11.04 source code?
[20:42] <Raptors> I need to make a 64bit boot drive so I boot into the live cd and restore grub
[20:42] <usr13> Raptors: mount -o rw,remount /dev/sdx
[20:43] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: try turning the unity plugin  off then on
[20:43] <usr13> Raptors: Or maybe   mount -o rw,remount /media/disk  or what ever..
[20:43] <Saik> xsinick_laptop, well, this is for a comuter-illeterate person, who just got used to natty
[20:43] <aaaaalex> blib- I have been using 64 bit since a couple of releases - no  issues in relation to that whatsoever
[20:44] <kyle_> So i SHift Deleted a folder about 2 mins ago... Are there any good recovery tools for linux
[20:44] <xsinick_laptop> Saik: Turn unity  off then on from compiz it should help
[20:44] <funnylookinhat> kyle_, http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[20:44] <Saik> xsinick_laptop, I'm using xfce. it'sxbuntu
[20:44] <blip-> aaaaalex, I've never tried 64 Linux, though I use 64 Windows.   Isn't it problematic if you want to compile progs from source ?
[20:45] <Raptors> usr13 mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:45] <funnylookinhat> kyle_, Long story short - out of luck unless you want to dump a lot of time into a possibility for recovering the file.  :)
[20:45] <Saik> blip-, nto usually
[20:45] <xsinick_laptop> Saik install compiz config utility
[20:45] <Saik> not*
[20:45] <Raptors> usr13: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[20:45] <roasted> Hey guys - Does anybody know how I can change the date stamps on pictures within Shotwell? It's coming up as 2006 even though the pictures were taken last month...
[20:45] <usr13> Raptors: Or maybe   mount -t vfat -o rw,remount /media/disk  or what ever..
[20:46] <nickor> i was just attempting to reinstall ubuntu via usb? it says 'failed to load the boot file (next line) boot: "
[20:46] <nickor> i followed the guide and it usually worksd
[20:46] <escott> roasted, don't know how you do it but the data is stored in what is called exif information
[20:46] <kyle_> a also wish to do another recovery on a XFS system..
[20:46] <xsinick_laptop> why don't people use sure fire ways  CD installations give little problems
[20:46] <aaaaalex> roasted, select the pictures, then go for: Photos -> change time and date
[20:47] <Cube``> guys, how do i use gobby 0.5? how do i open a server?
[20:47] <roasted> aaaaalex, is this within shotwell itself?
[20:47] <aaaaalex> roasted, aye - at least on natty it is :-D
[20:48] <Raptors> usr13: mount: /media/disk is not a block device
[20:48] <roasted> aaaaalex, I'm not seeing "photos" and I'm in natty. Can you be a little more descriptive?
[20:48] <roasted> aaaaalex, oh wait... hang on
[20:48] <kyle_> funntlookinhat: thanks.. any idea about the xfs formatted drive for recovery
[20:48] <aaaaalex> Cube``, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1735511
[20:48] <roasted> aaaaalex, I love you
[20:48] <escott> Raptors, i think you need to remount the mount point not the device.
[20:48] <nickor> this device does not have a cd if you were referring to my question about the usb install sinick
[20:48] <aaaaalex> roasted, i love you too
[20:49] <funnylookinhat> kyle_, No idea... I think you may be (mostly) out of luck but I'm not aware of the XFS block structure
[20:49] <Raptors> escott: like how?
[20:49] <afrodeity>  will x-swat have xserver fixes out soon?
[20:49] <blip-> aaaaalex, so you can run 32-bit version of skype for example ?
[20:49] <xsinick_laptop> nickor if you are having problems with natty install. install  10.04 then upgrade to natty
[20:49] <escott> Raptors, so /dev/sdX# is mounted on /mount/point so that error is either because you remounted /dev/sdX# and should have remounted /mount/point or vice versa, just switch it up
[20:50] <kyle_> funntlookinhat: Thanks for the EXT3 info..
[20:50] <escott> Raptors, check the output of "mount" to see where /dev/sdX# is mounted
[20:50] <aaaaalex> blib- i am just running the one form the repositories - is it 64?
[20:51] <Saik> xsinick_laptop, I got it, it was a seperator issue lol
[20:51] <usr13> Raptors: I used /mnt/disk as an example.  Use the command   mount   to see what the actual mount point is for your device.
[20:51] <Paranoid_> all
[20:51] <Raptors> mount: /media/New Volume is not a block device
[20:51] <Raptors> that didn't really do anything
[20:52] <usr13> Raptors: mount | pastebinit
[20:52] <usr13> and send resulting url
[20:52] <atm-bezvat> hi
[20:53] <Raptors> usr13:  /dev/sdd1 on /media/New Volume type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=999,gid=999,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec)
[20:53] <usr13> Raptors:  mount -o rw,remount /dev/sdd1
[20:54] <Raptors> idk what happened but it's working now
[20:54] <Raptors> :\
[20:54] <nickor> dling 10.04 now
[20:54] <nickor> thanks sinick
[20:55] <usr13> Raptors: Yea, you see what you jsut sent us?  It is mounted   rw
[20:57] <masob1> whats the recommend method of getting java to work (in firefox)?  google searches come back with mixed responses
[20:57] <benoitdo_> that's my intent although I was wondering if some people have though about doing this
[20:57] <drinsolito1> i'm a complete newbie to the ubuntu experience, i just installed it and i installed chromium, how can i enable flash
[20:58] <masob1> drinsolitol, if its like chrome, about:plugins
[20:58] <velle_fr1k> hmmm
[20:58] <usr13> masob1: Update java plugin
[20:58] <masob1> usr13: firefox wasn't able to find the plugin
[20:59] <drinsolito1> thanks masobl i will check it out
[20:59] <usr13> masob1: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[20:59] <drinsolito1> ever since i installed ubuntu my keyboard doesnt work correctly, fn keys work fine but shift and alt doesnt work
[20:59] <usr13> masob1: and restart firefox
[21:00] <masob1> usr13: Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:00] <usr13> drinsolito1: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[21:00] <Raptors> hey guys
[21:00] <zer0fun> has anyone seen of screen full of multicolored static when you boot natty?
[21:00] <Raptors> is the linux CD a live CD?
[21:00] <Raptors> err
[21:00] <Raptors> Linux Mint
[21:01] <masob1> zer0fun, yes
[21:01] <Raptors> Linuxmint-10-kde-dvd-amd64.iso
[21:01] <mang0> zer0fun: yes, I have
[21:01] <zer0fun> masob1 is that a known bug that I missed?  any fix
[21:01] <usr13> Raptors: Yes, that would mmore than likely be a LiveCD
[21:01] <mang0> brb, booting into windows for MUSIC MAKIN!
[21:02] <usr13> !mint | Raptors
[21:02] <masob1> zer0fun, no clue, i just see it too ;p
[21:02] <masob1> usr13: any idea where to go from here?
[21:03] <usr13> mand0: what MUSIC MAKIN?
[21:03] <waynemcint> masob1, i had same problem using apt-get then i tried from synaptic and it worked
[21:04] <kingofswords> hi how can i fix my mbr as my windows isnt showing boot menu? can i do it via ubuntu?
[21:04] <NightDragon> ello
[21:04] <usr13> masob1: You need to add respostory, I think it's multiverse . System -> Administration -> Software sources
[21:04] <NightDragon> any help would be great, i just installed ubuntu server 11.04, and when i boot into it it says "cannot display this video mode", it would be nice to know how to change this, but i dont know what conf file i need to look at
[21:04] <Antwon> how can I start a program with specific locale?
[21:05] <masob1> waynemcint: there seem to be 100s of them listed, any idea which to get?
[21:06] <masob1> usr13: software sources isn't an option under system > administration
[21:06] <zer0fun> mang0 is that a known bug that I missed?  any fix
[21:06] <guntbert> NightDragon: try booting into recovery mode, there select "repair X"  (or so...)
[21:07] <usr13> masob1: It's maveric partner I think.
[21:07] <tripelb> oops, I'm lost. what do I open a pdf with? It's an image so I tried libreoffice but I just got text.
[21:07] <tripelb> libreoffice DRAW
[21:07] <masob1> waynemcint: trying "default-jre"
[21:07] <zub> Hi. I'm trying to find out the patch that resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/perl/+bug/739693 ... possibly obvious, but I don't see it referenced on the web page
[21:07] <escott> tripelb, evince
[21:08] <usr13> masob1: Humm... well, you can do it from the command line. Let me see.....
[21:08] <zub> Obviously it was fixed in perl 5.10.1-17ubuntu4... so I did apt-get source perl, I see all the patches in perl-5.10.1/debian/patches but still don't know which one is it :-(
[21:08] <tripelb> escott, oh yeah. thanks
[21:09] <seul> I just installed 11.04 64 bits, and after succesfull install, and i have rebooted as it told me to, i cant enter the system. It's just a load screen, when i can move the pointer, but then it just alot of white text on black background. Mentions bug "unable to handle kernel paging request at ffffc90013a010f8". I cant type. Help?
[21:09] <usr13> masob1: What version are you?  lsb_release -a
[21:09] <dougmencken> hi guys; I have a question about firefox; ubuntu provides "officially branded" firefox (not iceweasel, icecat, etc.); how is it done? are you using binaries from mozilla site? if not, then how did you got the possibility to build "your own" branded version? also, why don't you like iceweasel?
[21:09] <masob1> usr13: 11.04
[21:10] <zer0fun> masob1 are you able to get past the color static when you boot or are you using nomodeset?
[21:10] <phibxr> dougmencken, good question. i remember the iceweasel mess. i'd like to know that too. :P
[21:11] <usr13> masob1: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ferramroberto/java
[21:11] <masob1> zer0fun; it just boots up like normal, its only there for a few moments
[21:11] <inktri> how can i use gnome instead of unity in 11.04? the screen in which you login to your account does not provide options in the bottom pane
[21:11] <escott> dougmencken, they get some kind of exemption
[21:11] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, whats the equal command for "httpd -S" in ubuntu?
[21:11] <usr13> masob1: And then do sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[21:11] <zer0fun> thanks masob1.  mine hangs at that screen,  must just be me
[21:12] <seul> Could somebody please help me? I need to have my computer working.. PLease =)
[21:12] <seul> I wrote my problem earlier
[21:12] <dougmencken> escott: hmm okay, I'll try to google about such agreenment
[21:13] <tripelb> escott, when I say "open with other application" evince is not on the list (gnome 10.04) - So I tried putting it in the application menus. When i tried to start it, then open it I had to pick all documents (because for some reason it was docname.ai --- and it works.
[21:14] <escott> seul, it sounds like your kernel is oopsing. you could try another kernel. i take it the live cd boots ok
[21:14] <DarkKnightCZ> ok, its apache2ctl
[21:14] <DarkKnightCZ> exit
[21:15] <tripelb> escott, can you tell me how to get Evince in the "open with other application" dialog box
[21:15] <NightDragon> any help would be great, i just installed ubuntu server 11.04, and when i boot into it it says "cannot display this video mode", it would be nice to know how to change this, but i dont know what conf file i need to look at
[21:15] <seul> escott: yes it said something about oops too. I just burned the live cd, and it installed without problem.  I have had problems installing ubuntu earlier on this computer but i think that was due to i burned the cd too fast..
[21:16] <escott> tripelb, it shows up as Document Viewer
[21:16] <masob1> usr13:  mind if we do a DCC chat?
[21:17] <hihihi100> how do I open a zipx file?
[21:17] <escott> seul, if you can get more information about the oops that would be helpful. you should be able to slow the text down with scroll lock. oopses are usually hardware related so maybe some device on your system is causing problems
[21:17] <seul> escott: i dont need too scroll it, so i can easily see it. give me a minute.
[21:18] <seul> escott: by trying another kernel, do you mean download a different version of ubuntu?
[21:18] <Master69> Hello guys
[21:18] <seul> escott: wtf i worked now. hooza! But ill be back in touch if it goes balls out again. thx  man
[21:19] <GhostWolf> hi all, is there a way to check if the ubuntu i upgraded to is 32bit or 64bit?
[21:19] <ITC> uname -a
[21:19] <escott> GhostWolf, uname -a see if it is x8x_64
[21:19] <aaaaalex> GhostWolf, uname -i
[21:20] <GhostWolf> escott, ok thanks
[21:20] <brillopad> Hello all
[21:20] <brillopad> How can I find out which wifi driver I'm using?
[21:21] <GhostWolf> so if it says x86_64 it means i have the 64bit right?
[21:21] <ITC> yep
[21:22] <xsinick_laptop> brillopad wifi suppost to work out the box
[21:22] <GhostWolf> ok thanks im trying to get i guess the proper version of flash on my pc but in the package manager it only shows the normal one i believe
[21:22] <xsinick_laptop> suppose to*
[21:22] <Master69> Guys how does a person pull a source code of an application from the net?
[21:22] <Partalix> hi all
[21:22] <brillopad> Xsisnick, I know, but it's not. Keeps dropping completely and really slow speeds
[21:22] <olvap> i just install apache in ubuntu. i can see the page in localhost that said "its works", where is that file? how could i know this?
[21:23] <brillopad> Think I need the ath9k drivers.
[21:23] <xsinick_laptop> Master69: are you serious?
[21:23] <brillopad> Olvap, tried /var/www?
[21:23] <Master69> Yes I'm new at this <xsinick_laptop>
[21:23] <nabil> ljklfdsk
[21:23] <ITC> Master69: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:23] <Partalix> need help with 11.04 and wolfenstein: enemy territory i have no sound no matter what i've tried from searching :(
[21:23] <inktri> how do you start 11.04 with gnome instead of unity?
[21:24] <olvap> <brillopad: yes, there ir no folder www in var
[21:24] <guntbert> !classic  | inktri
[21:24] <NoXzema> Why do commands (such as grep) not simply fail on invalid parameters.
 thanx I'll try that quick
[21:25] <ayecee> NoXzema: why, what is it doing instead?
[21:25] <NoXzema> It sits there and does nothing
[21:25] <NoXzema> grep -r "mystring"
[21:25] <xsinick_laptop> Gnome on 11.04 natty is buggy Natty Narwhal is buggy
[21:25] <ayecee> NoXzema: the parameters aren't invalid..
[21:25] <GhostWolf> if i need to install the 64bit of flash, i have to download it from adobe and follow the instrucks on how to do it is this correct?
[21:25] <escott> NoXzema, you havent given it input so its waiting on input from standard in
[21:25] <NoXzema> ayecee, it's missing a parameter.
[21:25] <aeon-ltd> xsinick_laptop: dude, everything is buggy
[21:25] <guntbert> noxus: start typing - it waits for standard input
[21:25] <NoXzema> It's missing the directory to search in.
[21:25] <ayecee> NoXzema: actually, no, it's not.
[21:26] <xsinick_laptop> aeon-ltd:  that is true but Imean buggier that 10.04
[21:26] <escott> NoXzema, type "mystring" it will repeat it back to you
[21:26] <ITC> is there any #chroot channel where i can ask a dummy question ? what would be the best cahn ?
[21:26] <ITC> please
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> hey guys, congratulations on the new release we have :D...Yes I know it has been a long time since the ubuntu 11+ came out but still I just wanna express my enthusiasm :)
[21:26] <ayecee> ITC: I don't think there's a channel dedicated solely to chroot.
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> it looks soo cool
[21:27] <buddhacid> ne one have ne idea why when i come out of suspend pcmanfm wont work on openbox
[21:27] <escott> ITC, what is the question
[21:27] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: nice, but still off topic here :)
[21:27] <GhostWolf> ITC do you know how i would be able to install the 64bit of flash?
[21:27] <Partalix> anyone using 11.04 and wolfenstein: Enemy Territory game and has sound?
[21:27] <hihihi100> where in my medu do I find 7zip?
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> i think i'll upgrade to it, I was reluctant at first cuz I want it to float around for a few months before I move to it, but damn with that new sexy look I just CANT WAIT
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> :D
[21:27] <hihihi100> menu
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> guntbert, ok sorry where can i talk about this :)
[21:28] <ITC> escott : my classic users are chrooted to their home with /usr/bin/svn, how can i use the same user to let him access to lets say /home/svn ?
[21:28] <DetectiveDuck> HALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!
[21:28] <guntbert> sw0rdfish: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:28] <xsinick_laptop> ITC: try unubtu-offtopic for dummy stuff
[21:28] <DetectiveDuck> ...
[21:28] <xsinick_laptop> lol
[21:28] <guntbert> !shout | DetectiveDuck
[21:28] <hatlinux> dear all, I forgot my ssh password, now I'm using id_rsa when I need to login into my ssh server. can I reset my password without knowing my recent pass?
[21:28] <zvacet> hihihi100	: you can use it from terminal or from context menu
[21:28] <sw0rdfish> guntbert, thanks mate
[21:28] <DetectiveDuck> Ubuntu is stuck on this busybox...
[21:28] <ITC> xsinick_laptop: ok =)
[21:28] <escott> ITC, hard links?
[21:29] <escott> ITC, just make sure they can't use that to break out of the jail, i would worry about the ".." inodes being accessible
[21:29] <ITC> i tried ln -s /home/user/whatever /home/svn but without success, obv
[21:29] <escott> ITC, it would have to be a hard link for that to be at all feasible
[21:30] <GhostWolf> does anyone here know the easy way to install flash for 64bit?
[21:31] <pimperle> i'm using pbuilder to build packages locally. if A depends on B and i have compiled B.deb, how can i make pbuilder use it when building A?
[21:31] <DetectiveDuck> GhostWolf: sudo apt-get install flash-player ...
[21:31] <ITC> escott : ok thanks for ur answer, i ll try that
[21:31] <pimperle> i just can't find it on the google. :(
[21:31] <muneeb> can anyone tell me which PPA to use for installing Gnome3 on 10.10?
[21:31] <DetectiveDuck> GhostWolf: Go in the software center ;)
[21:31] <GhostWolf> DetectiveDuck, but wouldn't that just install the 32bit and not 64bit?
[21:31] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf:  goto abobe  website and there should be an installer for linux
[21:32] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, thats not the easy way
[21:32] <pimperle> muneeb: i only found gnome3-team/gnome3 for natty 11.04
[21:32] <ward1234> make sure u get the debian release! ghostwolf
[21:32] <pimperle> muneeb: looks like there's no 10.10 one
[21:32] <guntbert> !gnome3 | muneeb
[21:32] <Guest86261> Ilist
[21:32] <DetectiveDuck> GhosWolf ...
[21:32] <Guest86261> !list
[21:32] <DetectiveDuck> GhostWolf: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-adobe-flash-player-10-on-ubuntu-64bit.html
[21:33] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf:  here you go :http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:33] <DetectiveDuck> I'm using Windows right now...
[21:33] <DetectiveDuck> :(
[21:33] <DetectiveDuck> :'(
[21:33] <muneeb> pimperle, one of my friend has it running on 10.10.. he used some other PPA.. he's asleep now :)
[21:33] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf: may not be easy but it is sure
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[21:33] <GhostWolf> im serious i've tried doing it through the site and it always doesn't work
[21:33] <muneeb> pimperle, one of my friend has it running on 10.10.. he used some other PPA.. he's asleep now :)
[21:33] <ssfdre38> what the hell is up with all the bots about this
[21:33] <tesseracter> thats super annoying
[21:33] <ssfdre38> it is
[21:34] <pimperle> muneeb: cool. i tried to use it to install evince on 10.04
[21:34] <shentino> yeah
[21:34] <pimperle> but couldn't find a repos for that
[21:34] <shentino> I've stopped paying attention to highlights because of all the spam
[21:34] <txtsd> wtf is SASL?
[21:34] <ssfdre38> i got nick alerted twice
[21:34] <guntbert> ssfdre38: tesseracter don't worry, its only spam
[21:34] <ssfdre38> i know
[21:34] <escott> ITC, someone also suggested bind mounts that may be easier than hard links to maintain
[21:34] <shentino> Like I said, the spam is so intrusive I just ignore highlights here
[21:35] <tesseracter> guntbert, yeah, but i can't stand channels that ping  me
[21:35] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf:  it is a preview you should be fine with 32 bit  I'll give 64 bit a couple more years to be fully supported always around
[21:35] <xsinick_laptop> but that is just me
[21:35] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, its not when i need it for a game
[21:35] <charliesheen> spam, it's what's for dinner
[21:35] <Amgine> it's not the channel: it's a group of children trying to be script kiddies and failing even to fail.
[21:35] <shentino> it's not kosher
[21:35] <trism> GhostWolf: you can install the preview 64 bit version from adobe here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html and just extract it and copy to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[21:35] <shentino> *badum PSH!*
[21:36] <zvacet> pimperle:  see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[21:36] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf: why would you dev a game in 64 bit flash ?
[21:36] <GhostWolf> trism like i been saying i've tried that it just never works when i follow the install instructions
[21:36] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, its a web game
[21:36] <pimperle> zvacet: thx
[21:36] <trism> GhostWolf: it works, I'm using it
[21:37] <Master69> Maser69_afk
[21:37] <GhostWolf> trism, maybe you're better and linux/ubuntu than me and doing things im still in a learning mode even tho i been using ubuntu for a while now
[21:37] <xsinick_laptop> dude 32 bit should work perfect on you  64 bit install it is not aviable in a real way on Ubuntu
[21:37] <george_> any known reason upgrade from u10 TO U11 FAILS AND WRECKS GRUB INITIAL DUAL BOOT CHOICE SCREEN?
[21:38] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, trust me i've got 64bit to working.. and 32bit has issues on 64bit
[21:38] <trism> GhostWolf: did you make sure to uninstall other versions first?
[21:38] <sgaap> btw, can powertop help with the energy consumption of the radeon driver?
[21:39] <drinsolito1> my shift key will only work when pressed once, but If i keep pressing it (for example to select in a list using shift) it won't work
[21:39] <GhostWolf> trism yes. i have not on this version of ubuntu i've tried cause i did the upgrade through update manager, but lately when i installed ubuntu via a cd when i downloaded the file, i had to do alot of commands
[21:40] <guntbert> george_: please don't shout, and there is no u10 and no u11 ! :)
[21:40] <trism> GhostWolf: there are not many commands to install it, just download the tar.gz, unpackage it with archive manager (or tar), then: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins/; cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/;
[21:41] <trism> GhostWolf: restart the browser and it should show up in both chromium and firefox
[21:41] <GhostWolf> trism yes and i did that and it gives me errors or tells me other commands.
[21:41] <GhostWolf> but right now someone else posted a link for me to follow and going to try that
[21:41] <george_> oops on the shout..u1= ubuntu Maverick..10.10..u11= ubuntu 11.04..
[21:42] <waynemcint> is there a way to remote (rdp or vnc) into ubuntu desktop and get sound?
[21:42] <bhuey> you folks make it pretty freak'n unobvious for filing a bug
[21:42] <ThinkT510> !bug | bhuey
[21:43] <guntbert> bhuey: "we" folks did nothing of that sort - we are users like yourself
[21:43] <bhuey> A traditional web page filing would have been more direct
[21:43] <froq> Okay.  So i have files from an old OSx HFS+ partition that only allows that have the following permissions: owner: read/write group: ZERO Others: ZERO.... I cannot do anything with them... anyway I can get those files?  the hdd was not encryped
[21:43] <bhuey> guntbert: what channel are the devs on then ?
[21:44] <sgaap> froq, if you mount hfs+ you need to pass an extra parameter to mount r/w
[21:44] <pythos> When managing user accounts across multiple servers, is there a tool that can be used to manage passwords so that any one user pass change on any server gets passed also to the other servers?
[21:44] <guntbert> bhuey: not sure - but definitely not here
[21:44] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf: hmmm i belive it was 10.04 right?
[21:44] <froq> sgaap, how do I do that?
[21:44] <LordXe-gnu> pythos, NIS?
[21:44] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, believe what? what are you talking about?
[21:44] <sgaap> froq let me check, im running osx too on this pc
[21:45] <pythos> LordXe-gnu: I will take a look, Have just begun to think about this, so thanks.
[21:45] <froq> sgaap, thanks.
[21:45] <masob1> usr13: there?
[21:45] <xsinick_laptop> GhostWolf: never mind then  laters
[21:45] <tsimpson> bhuey: just use "ubuntu-bug <package>" to report a bug on a package, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:45] <darkenvy> man I didnt know I was redirected.....
[21:45] <darkenvy> I was trying to talk cloaked for a long fucking time
[21:46] <froq> will sudo apt-get upgrade upgrade my os?  I am rocking 10.04, and don't want to go to 11.04.
[21:46]  * darkenvy sighs
[21:46] <GhostWolf> xsinick_laptop, if you're still talking about flash, i had it in the last few versions of ubuntu when it said 64but wasn't really there
[21:46] <GhostWolf> and found a way to get it
[21:46] <tsimpson> darkenvy: watch your language in here please
[21:46] <darkenvy> we cant curse in here?
[21:46] <george_> frog...my attempt to upgrade to 1104 failed and wrecked dual boot screen
[21:46] <darkenvy> gotcha
[21:46] <Nabiki> froq yes it will upgrade you to 10.10
[21:47] <kjxl9> have there been problems with spam recently?
[21:47] <Nabiki> froq it did me, no probs
[21:47] <froq> Nabiki, that is what I needed to know!  THZ! :)  I want to stay @ 10.04, but how do I upgrade my installed packages without upgrade?  can i not?
[21:47] <darkenvy> so ubuntu freezes at GDM because I activated the latest nvidia drivers. How can I use the default display drivers to boot into the OS so I can disable the nvidia's?
[21:48] <Nabiki> use the system>upgrade manager
[21:48] <darkenvy> ubuntu 10.10 with nvidia [current] the version past 173
[21:48] <Nabiki> ermmm yeah  admin>system>upgrade manager
[21:48] <Nabiki> no no
[21:49] <Nabiki> system>admin>upgrade manager
[21:49] <Nabiki> sheesh
[21:49] <sgaap> froq, is the hfs+ partition journalled?
[21:49] <kjxl9> how do i upgrade to 10.10 ?
[21:49] <tripelb> escott, oh. IC. OK maybe your could tell me this (both work) The command for Document Viewer is "evince %U" while my command is just "evince" so what does the %U do and how could I find out more about that?  (%U does not google well)
[21:49] <froq> Nabiki, thanks I found it
[21:49] <froq> sgaap, yes sir.
[21:49]  * Nabiki counts her fingers and toes
[21:49] <escott> tripelb, the filename is placed there
[21:49] <karl__> I just installed a wireless card and I want to install drivers what do I do?
[21:49] <karl__> also, how do I bridge network connections?
[21:49] <sgaap> froq i think thats only mountable read
[21:50] <kjxl9> how do i upgrade to 10.10 ?
[21:50] <tripelb> escott so the %U means "it takes a filename as an argument"?
[21:50] <darkenvy> is there a way I can disable the nvidia display drivers from a ubuntu bootcd? I am unable to boot as it crashes at GDM and (recover) mode
[21:50] <trism> tripelb: they are all documented here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
[21:50] <froq> sgaap, but it won't even let me do that.  it tells has an X over the folder and says I don't have the permissions to do it.
[21:50] <escott> yes
[21:50] <tripelb> kjxl9,  well you have to have 10.04 first
[21:50] <tripelb> trism, cool I will click.
[21:50] <kjxl9> how do i upgrade to 10.04
[21:50] <sgaap> froq, you mean when its mounted? my hfs+ partitions mount just fine but just as read
[21:50] <darkenvy> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:51] <guntbert> !upgrade | kjxl9
[21:51] <kjxl9> im currently running version 9,1
[21:51] <froq> sgaap, yeah, when it is mounted, it won't even let read/ open the folder.
[21:51] <darkenvy> how can I disable nvidia display drivers?
[21:51] <escott> tripelb, nautilus would fork and in the child process execv replacing argv[1] with your filename as inidicated by the placement of "%U"
[21:51] <xsinick_laptop> darkenvy: I belive ther is a safe mode in Ubuntu just look up how to boot in to it
[21:51] <darkenvy> I cant boot into safe mode
[21:51] <darkenvy> it freezes
[21:52] <darkenvy> this is also a fresh install freshly upgraded to 10.10. second time.....
[21:52] <sgaap> froq, else i can only think of connecting it to a pc and use a hackingtosh style boot cd so you can use disktools to change permissions or disable yournalling
[21:52] <darkenvy> I also got to 11.04 but didnt like it so my build is fine
[21:52] <kjxl9> i typed sudo apt-get upgrade into terminal and it said it installed nothing
[21:52] <Nabiki> darkenvy  what version ubuntu so you have??
[21:52] <darkenvy> 10.10 currently
[21:52] <sgaap> froq, or a mac if you got one around
[21:52] <Nabiki> ah   lemmie see    i had that same prob
[21:52] <darkenvy> last thing I did was turn on "nvidia [latest]" drivers and rebooted
[21:52] <Nabiki> when i upgraded to 10.10
[21:53] <pythos> what is the way to determine if a particular install is a desktop vs server ? /etc/issue is same
[21:53] <froq> sgaap, okay, so the only way to fix the permissions is from the mac.  that is what I needed to know.  Dang, wish I could just see what was in the folder, but I don't ahve read permissions, that sucks.
[21:53] <sgaap> froq, you can try mounting it
[21:53] <froq> Well, I guess I will just never give anyone read permissions on my folders in the future if I am worried about being/ having information stolen.
[21:53] <sgaap> froq,  if it doesnt work no loss
[21:53] <xsinick_laptop> darkenvy: you can log in to command line with no xwindows and delete the drivers
[21:53] <Nabiki> yeah    i restored mine from backup
[21:53] <sgaap> froq just install hfsplus hfsprogs and hfsutils
[21:53] <darkenvy> where is the drivdr lcoated?
[21:53] <froq> sgaap, I have it mounted, and everything, but the single folder, when I double click it to open it, I get the following: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Desktop".
[21:54] <Nabiki> never did figure out how to fix permissions
[21:54] <darkenvy> and how do I login to a TTY only?
[21:54] <sgaap> froq, and then mount -o force -t hfsplus
[21:54] <escott> darkenvy, let gdm fail and then ctrl-alt-f1 over to tty
[21:54] <sgaap> froq, if you manage to mount it rw like that you can change the permissions
[21:54] <darkenvy> nono gdm freezes the computer
[21:54] <hhhhhhhhhh> hi
[21:54] <sgaap> froq, but if its journalled that might not work, but you can always try
[21:55] <darkenvy> mouse doesnt work and keyboard loses power (all lights go out) shortly before gdm
[21:55] <escott> darkenvy, then change splash in the boot options to text or single
[21:55] <froq> sgaap, I am downloading those tools, thanks dude!
[21:55] <Pumpkin-> any idea what "/etc/fstab 1.2.3.4:/nfs/path /mymountpoint - 0 0" doesn't mount the NFS file system at boottime, when "mount -t nfs blahblahblah" works fine ?
[21:55] <sgaap> froq, gl
[21:55] <darkenvy> I did try text and grub didnt reconize it
[21:55] <SillyPantz> does anyone know how to manually set resolution in 11.04?
[21:55] <darkenvy> ill try single.... one moment
[21:56] <darkenvy> nope grub doesnt reconize single or text. I tried some other commands earlier too but no flags worked
[21:56] <jaequery> hola amigoes
[21:56] <xsinick_laptop> darkenvy:  got it.. do a clean install
[21:57] <darkenvy> this is the second clean install
[21:57] <xsinick_laptop> :P
[21:57] <jaequery> i'm on ubuntu website and i'm trying to download it, but why is there only 32-bit?
[21:57] <darkenvy> after I decided to drop away from 11.04
[21:57] <charliesheen> ?QUE PASA?
[21:57] <darkenvy> becasue I made th ebad chocie of leaving awsome 10.10
[21:57] <CalvinMcGee> I want to automatically login on startup, but when i unlock gdmsetup, I can't choose user
[21:57] <jaequery> sorry let me paraphrase, why do they not recommend the 64 bit edition of ubuntu on their download page?
[21:58] <darkenvy> the first clean install of 10.10 went fine until I tried to do anyhtign with the nvidia drivers. it froze so I reinstalled
[21:58] <escott> darkenvy, so you are editing the boot options and changing "splash" to "single" and then trying to boot and it says it doesn't recognize "single"
[21:58] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, having a problem with my wifi... I think it might be a driver, but I don't want to tear apart my OS just to fix it... Can anyone help?
[21:58] <charliesheen> winning... duh!
[21:58] <Decca> I am using ubuntu 11.4 and firefox crashed , it wont let me open another, can not locate program to be closed or forced , only answer back from system is to reboot, is this the answer to all crashed programs ?
[21:58] <pipegeek> jaequery: look at the Download options dropdown
[21:58] <darkenvy> when I go into boot options the grub line is empty
[21:58] <ThinkT510> jaequery: 32bit works on 32bit and 64bit processors
[21:58] <fatazzes> [* | NOTICE | *] STARTING  JUNE 1ST FREENODE  WILL CHANGE  THE WAY YOU  CONNECT TO  IT . UNLESS YOU  ENABLE  SASL  YOU  WILL  BE UNABLE TO  CONNECT TO FREENODE .  PLEASE  JOIN  #FREENODE  OR  MSG  A  STAFFER  FOR  DETAILS  [* | NOTICE | *]   fatazzes Wolf hidn_shadows [TK]D-Fender Zelluz jaequery jsurfer Logan_ h00p jibadeeha Micki CalvinMcGee Decca hhhhhhhhhh pectoral yankee eiriksvin monday_ blueghost Flummoxed lolmatic kjxl9 oliver602 darkenvy tudalex b
[21:58] <fatazzes> [* | NOTICE | *] STARTING  JUNE 1ST FREENODE  WILL CHANGE  THE WAY YOU  CONNECT TO  IT . UNLESS YOU  ENABLE  SASL  YOU  WILL  BE UNABLE TO  CONNECT TO FREENODE .  PLEASE  JOIN  #FREENODE  OR  MSG  A  STAFFER  FOR  DETAILS  [* | NOTICE | *]   ap0c sw0rdfish jack_^ arcsky princej88 timboy SillyPantz jkr801_ andrejpan LjL Soupermanito GhostWolf coz_ patholio play4_ dilbert_guerrilh s3r3n1t7 greggft @FloodBot2 AlertEye Ertyle LjL-Temp W00t0r ExplodingPiglets N
[21:58] <ap0c> more fucking spam
[21:58] <jaequery> i have 64bit processor
[21:58] <Logan_> !language | ap0c
[21:59] <jaequery> so for me, 64-bit is ideal right?
[21:59] <ap0c> !spam
[21:59] <charliesheen> yes, watch your fuckin language
[21:59] <jaequery> i shouldn't listen to what the download page says?
[21:59] <Logan_> !language | charlieS
[21:59] <pipegeek> jaequery: if you look at the drop down, you'll see that it allows you to download 64-bit
[21:59] <ap0c> how about someone watch the spam in this channel
[21:59] <jack_^> charliesheen++
[21:59] <jaequery> i know i see it but it says its not recommended
[21:59] <jaequery> why it doesn't recommend it , is it buggy as hell?
[21:59] <darkenvy> but yes the grub line does not reconize single or splash
[21:59] <escott> jaequery, 32bit works for everyone... better than burning a coaster and finding out you have a 32bit machine
[21:59] <charliesheen> i run it on my one box, works pretty well
[21:59] <pipegeek> jaequery: It's not recommended because a few things don't work as well
[22:00] <charliesheen> better than Debian
[22:00] <jaequery> define, few things
[22:00] <charliesheen> don't know why they say that on their page
[22:00] <hidn_shadows> jaequery, not all computers can run 64 bit at all.
[22:00] <jaequery> i think most computers have 64-bit now for a decade
[22:00] <pipegeek> jaequery: flash, for instance, is only available as a 32-bit binary.  The result of this is that, in the 64-bit version of ubuntu, there's a layer between the 64-bit browser and the 32-bit flash plugin that isn't there in the 32-bit version
[22:01] <hidn_shadows> Hey guys, having a problem with my wifi... I think it might be a driver, but I don't want to tear apart my OS just to fix it... Can anyone help?
[22:01] <jaequery> i dont need flash i just use it as server
[22:01] <jaequery> i just want to run apache
[22:01] <sparrW> My dock is stuck open. How can I make it autohide like it should? I can't access the bits of window that are behind it.
[22:01] <pipegeek> jaequery: some other proprietary apps are also 32-bit only.  Which doesn't mean they won't run, it just means that if they break or refuse to install you'll have to figure it out
[22:01] <darkenvy> what is the standard grub boot line for standard booting?
[22:01] <darkenvy> mine is default empty from my version of grub
[22:02] <pipegeek> jaequery: It's not a big deal.  Use the 64-bit version if you want to.  They recommend 32-bit because it's unlikely you actually *need* the 64-bit version and it makes things slightly more complicated to use
[22:02] <GhostWolf> trism, you still around?
[22:02] <escott> darkenvy, linux root=UUID ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[22:02] <pipegeek> performance will be improved slightly
[22:02] <pipegeek> and if you have more than 4 gigs of ram, you'll need the 64-bit version
[22:02] <jaequery> basically i have a website that needs bigint
[22:02] <jaequery> after 5 days i finally figuerd out it was because i had 32-bit
[22:03] <darkenvy> invalid filename "root=UUID"
[22:03] <jaequery> but thank you pipe, you been great help
[22:03] <kjxl9> ok, so im running 9.1 and am rying to upgrade to 10.04, problem is, in update manager 10.04 isn't coming up, but 11.04 is
[22:03] <escott> darkenvy, you have to put the actually uuid there
[22:03] <darkenvy> well how do I know that?
[22:03] <darkenvy> can I guess it?
[22:03] <pipegeek> .... you have a website that needs bigint
[22:03] <pipegeek> what do you mean by that, jaequery?
[22:04] <escott> darkenvy, its listed inside the partition table somehow
[22:04] <darkenvy> UUID seems familiar but I think I only messed with this once before when I attempted a hackintosh
[22:04] <jaequery> well, integer greater than what int can handle
[22:04] <darkenvy> omfg
[22:04] <ThinkT510> darkenvy: you could put the partition there instead
[22:04] <hidn_shadows> kjxl9, because 11.04 is the most recent version
[22:04] <escott> darkenvy, you can also put /dev/sda#
[22:04] <pipegeek> jaequery: I'm skeptical
[22:04] <darkenvy> okay it should be sda1
[22:05] <hidn_shadows> kjxl9, if you want 10.04, back your stuff up and look for the .ISO online, and burn yourself a boot disc...
[22:05] <darkenvy> also through an invalid filename
[22:05] <escott> so the whole thing looks like linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=f13a367e-fca4-48d4-b164-03e6c8269a56 ro   quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[22:05] <jaequery> pipegeek why do you say that?
[22:05] <elphias> hi i have a problem, in order to use the live cd, i have to boot the computer and press esc to go into the live cd's specal options, then i have to hit f6 and select the nomodeset option, if i don't do this, ubuntu will boot and the display will go into standby, there is only one video card the onboard, and it's an nvidia card. after i reboot the computer, the display will go into standby even though ubuntu is booting can someone please help?
[22:05] <kjxl9> would i have to back my stuff up?
[22:05] <darkenvy> escott, what if I used /dev/sda1 ?
[22:06] <darkenvy> escott, what would that command look like?
[22:06] <escott> darkenvy, since you said that recovery wasn't working  (and recover is single) linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=f13a367e-fca4-48d4-b164-03e6c8269a56 ro single
[22:06] <juaco> exit
[22:06] <juaco> quit
[22:06] <escott> darkenvy, i think your problem is coming when the nvidia module is probed from modprobe which happens prior to X starting, you might want to get a live cd and chroot yourself in
[22:07] <darkenvy> okay I have a LIVE usb here!
[22:07] <Tigger__> wb Decca
[22:07] <pipegeek> jaequery: what website are you talking about?
[22:07] <darkenvy> but what do I remove/change in my filesystem?
[22:07] <escott> darkenvy, you can boot the live cd and then chroot yourself in and then uninstall the nvidia drivers from the command line
[22:07] <hidn_shadows> kjxl9, yeah since you're basically installing Lucid Lynx over... Jaunty, you said?
[22:08] <escott> !grub | darkenvy  (one of the recovery methods is a chroot environment, which you can follow up to the point of doing grub-install)
[22:08] <kjxl9> yes
[22:08] <darkenvy> escott, are you saying I can use a liveCD to access this OS's terminal? (not the liveCD's filesystem's terminal)
[22:08] <escott> yes
[22:08] <kjxl9> i dont really have anything on this computer yet except for some music i copied off my ipod
[22:09] <sparrW> darkenvy: you can mount your normal OS's filesystem, and even chroot to it if it's in decently working order
[22:09] <elphias> can someone help me with my problem? O_O
[22:09] <kjxl9> would it  be safe to just go straight to 11.04?
[22:09] <darkenvy> okay then how do I uninstall the nvidia driver form a command line?
[22:09] <kingofswords> can any1 tell me how to fix mbr in ubuntu?
[22:10] <GhostWolf> trism if you're around can i pm you?
[22:10] <hidn_shadows> kjxl9, it still has a lot of bugs... Don't let me influence you, but it was only released about a month ago.
[22:10] <escott> darkenvy, use dpkg -S to search for the nvidia package name and then apt-get remove nvidia-??? whatever it is
[22:10] <escott> kingofswords, what have you tried so far?
[22:10] <Master69> Hello guys. Can saomeone tell me how can I pull of a source code of an application?
[22:10] <kjxl9> ill just stay with 9.1 for now
[22:10] <kingofswords> i tried using recovery in xp disc..ie fixboot and fix mbr
[22:10] <darkenvy> escott, but since im in a live CD, using any dpkg or apt would uninstall/install to the Live environment though...
[22:11] <escott> Master69, that question is just too vague... download it from the developers site
[22:11] <escott> darkenvy, not after you chroot
[22:11] <hidn_shadows> kjxl9, there's 10.04 that's extremely stable, thats what I'm sticking with
[22:11] <elphias> how do i make a 64 bit system use 32 bit apps?
[22:11] <darkenvy> so that is what chrooting is?
[22:11] <charliesheen> elphias, magic
[22:11] <kjxl9> ... ya im gonna go look for a blank cd
[22:11] <escott> darkenvy, its one of the side-effects of chrooting... it seems like magic but it works
[22:11] <charliesheen> you install the 32bit libraries silly
[22:11] <mouse> My laptop kept disconnecting and reconnecting and it was getting annoying so I installed ndiswrapper and a windows driver for my wireless card but then it couldn't connect at all so I uninstalled the driver and ndiswrapper but I still can't use my wireless card.  How do I fix this?
[22:11] <LuckySMack_Work> when upgrading my dev (maverick -> natty) server I was ssh'd into, my connection gave out and when logging back in im at the terminal as normal. running update tells me it cannot get a lock on the lock file. Likely because the update did not finish. so im at a terminal but am unable to continur the upgrade. is there a way i can get back into it? or do i have to kill it?
[22:11] <kingofswords> escott, i tried some cmds i found in ybuntu forum but tha disnt do anythiing either
[22:12] <darkenvy> escott, side effects?! that seems awesome. heh. linux... what wont you do?
[22:12] <escott> kingofswords, have you gone through the !grub recovery stuff
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Well I am on 11.04 for now, so thought  I would try asking here.  I got a headset as of yesterday,  I can get the head phones working in the pink ports, but the  blue ports for the microphone, they don't seem to work at all.  I try the sound recorder program in Ubuntu/Gnome and nope not recording what I am saying.
[22:12] <kingofswords> escott,  erm dont think so
[22:12] <kingofswords> !grub
[22:12] <hidn_shadows> I need help with a wifi problem... It continuously tells me that I'm using the wrong password after using the right pasword, the right one again, and even after I used "chucknorris"... I think it's really sick guys
[22:12] <darkenvy> ill be back. im gonna figure out how to chroot
[22:12] <sebsebseb> I meant head phones in the blue ports above
[22:12] <hidn_shadows> darkenvy, "man chroot"
[22:13] <sparrW> !dock
[22:13] <kingofswords> escott, i have no problem with ubuntu just wondows isnt showing in boot menu
[22:13] <escott> darkenvy, just follow those grub recovery chroot method up until the grub-install
[22:13] <sparrW> anyone know which one of those is the left side in ubuntu 11.04?
[22:13] <ITC> kingsofwords : gparted ?
[22:13] <sebsebseb> pink,  blue whatever, eitgher way I can get the head phones working, but not the microphone
[22:13] <tensorpudding> sparrW: that's the unity launcher
[22:13] <kingofswords> ITC, i lost the boot option by resizing in gparted
[22:13] <Logan_> sparrW: I believe that almost all of them can be configured to show up on the left side.  (But, as tensorpudding said, Unity does that already.)
[22:13] <hidn_shadows> sebsebseb, sure it isn't a hardware bug?
[22:13] <sparrW> tensorpudding: thanks. does unity have a channel other than the mostly empty ##unity ?
[22:14] <kingofswords> got no idea how to fix mbr using it thou
[22:14] <sebsebseb> hdon: I don't know, may be something to do with the hardware yeah
[22:14] <tensorpudding> if you have questions, you can ask them here
[22:14] <darkenvy> escott, you lost me there :\
[22:14] <trism> GhostWolf: sure
[22:14] <ITC> kingofswords: startupmanager ?
[22:14] <bhearsum> i'm having an issue with my touchpad/meta keys. when i start scrolling with the touchpad, and then hit a meta key, the scroll event seems to continue with the meta key -- in Firefox, this has the affect of changing the font size because Firefox now sees it as ctrl+scrolling -- does anyone know how to fix this issue? i would expect that pressing a meta key would cancel any in progress scroll events, but that doesn't seem to be the case
[22:14] <sparrW> tensorpudding: it's a "dock is broken" problem, having little luck in here, hoping to try elsewhere
[22:14] <kingofswords> errr
[22:14] <escott> kingofswords, have you run grub-mkconfig? is os-prober not finding the win partition
[22:14] <kingofswords> ITC,  what does startup mgr do
[22:14] <darkenvy> that grub page you sent me has nothing to do with chrooting
[22:14] <kingofswords> escott, no
[22:14] <ITC> fixmbr in xp cd ?
[22:14] <kingofswords> yeh os-porber isnt
[22:15] <hidn_shadows> darkenvy have you tried "man chroot" in terminal?
[22:15] <darkenvy> escott, can I jsut boot form my flash drive and do it this way?
[22:15] <kingofswords> itc no i used xp cd fixmbr and it said it fixed it but nothing shows in boot menu
[22:15] <ITC> kingofswords : its a user friendly grub config manager
[22:15] <darkenvy> havnt made it to a terminal yet
[22:15] <LuckySMack_Work> can anyone help? upgrading maverick to natty, in the middle of the install it got interrupted and dont know how to continue it. im ssh'd into my server.
[22:15] <kingofswords>  itc is it preinstalled?
[22:16] <ITC> sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[22:16] <escott> darkenvy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub#Preparing%20Your%20Working%20Environment
[22:16] <realsifo> hello all :)
[22:16] <gizmo_> I just installed ubuntu 10.04. The live cd shows my wireless card as eth1, but the installed system does not see the wireless card at all.
[22:16] <kingofswords> escott i ran cmd ..do i reboot now?
[22:16] <hidn_shadows> Can anyone help me with a wifi problem? It randomly stopped working last night, I guess it got tired of "M*A*S*H"...
[22:16] <kingofswords> itc thx
[22:16] <realsifo> how to remaster ubuntu with nvidia propieratry driver?
[22:16] <sburwood1> What's the name of the next version of Ubuntu?
[22:16] <ThisDB> gizmo_, run ifconfig and pastebin please
[22:17] <ITC> uw
[22:17] <escott> kingofswords, check your /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if it has a windows section
[22:17] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | sburwood1
[22:17] <escott> darkenvy, so boot your flash drive to the live cd, then bind mount the special partitions, and chroot yourself inside
[22:17] <sburwood1> thx
[22:17] <realsifo> can we included the nvidia propiertary driver in remastersys?
[22:17] <gizmo_> ifconfig shows device lo
[22:17] <hidn_shadows> sburwood1, Natty?
[22:18] <gizmo_> pastebin was not found
[22:18] <Master69> I got on to a developers site, but can't seem to get to download it. So what should I do now any advice please? I actually want to pull a source code for any apllication games, accessories, whichever I can. <escott>
[22:18] <hidn_shadows> gizmo_, pastebin.org
[22:18] <boxbeatsy> hi, i think i royally screwed up my ubuntu system trying to fix java support last night.  i'm now getting a very long list of dependency errors when trying to install pretty much any package like so https://gist.github.com/6845cdb6116391b180ff  can anyone take a look and see if they have any ideas?
[22:18] <escott> darkenvy, thats a little handwavy i know so if you want pm me and I can talk you through it
[22:18] <U-BUNTU> is there someone who can suggest a webcam that works fine in ubuntu 11.04?
[22:19] <realsifo> i want ubuntu live dvd like sabayon whose included nvidia driver in it :)
[22:19] <Pumpkin-> this makes even less sense. I have a NFS file system in /etc/fstab. If I boot the system and run "sudo mount -a", it mounts it fine. But it doesn't mount at boot time. (And I get an unusual "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" message at boottime).
[22:19] <darkenvy> escott, okay, ill keep you posted
[22:19] <hidn_shadows> Can anyone help with a wifi problem? If nobody can, I'll just do a fresh install...
[22:19] <kingofswords> escott, cant see anything to do with windows
[22:19] <spankbot> mounting an android phone, device displays under "Computer" but I'm unable to "Open With File Browser"
[22:19] <escott> U-BUNTU, check the v4l website but most usb webcams work fine
[22:19] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  try sudo apt-get install -f
[22:19] <escott> kingofswords, you could try and create your own entry
[22:19] <ITC> kingofswords : needs one so
[22:20] <kingofswords> itc startup mgr has windows xp in boot tab
[22:20] <kingofswords> does that means its fixed?
[22:20] <schweegi> how can i create a bent textfield in scribus on ubuntu 11.04 natty narwhal?
[22:20] <boxbeatsy> coz_: hey, still throwing the same dependency errors with the -f flag
[22:20] <ethernet> hello
[22:20] <ITC> so should do grub.cfg
 I got on to a developers site, but can't seem to get to download it. So what should I do now any advice please? I actually want to pull a source code for any apllication games, accessories, whichever I can.
[22:20] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   mm  did you download another firefox version...?
[22:20] <U-BUNTU> escott ..without installing any driver if it is possible
[22:20] <escott> kingofswords, this is mine you could adjust accordingly http://paste.ubuntu.com/605883/
[22:21] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yea, i recently upgraded to 4.0, but that was a couple weeks back
[22:21] <kingofswords> escott, thx
[22:21] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   upgraded manually?
[22:21] <boxbeatsy> coz_: hmm, i followed a set of instructions online, i think i added the ppa repository and then ran apt-get
[22:21] <kingofswords> escott, do i just change win7 to xp or is it more tricky
[22:21] <adac> is it possible to add applets on unitity (like system load and so one)
[22:21] <escott> kingofswords, if you get that working make sure to copy it someplace because that grub.cfg is auto generated. there must be something else going on because os-prober should detect the windows partition
[22:21] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  I think that is the reason for part of that error
[22:21] <LetterRip> hi the window manager steals key presses that i need to use in the aplication i am in (ie alt + LMB)
[22:22] <LetterRip> where do i override that
[22:22] <escott> kingofswords, it should be the same
[22:22] <darkenvy> im in a terrable IRC client... man....
[22:22] <LetterRip> i'm using gnome currently
[22:22] <escott> kingofswords, the trickiest part will be that uuid
[22:22] <kingofswords> erm
[22:22] <kingofswords> dunno what that is
[22:22] <hidn_shadows> Can anyone help with a wifi problem? If nobody can, I'll just do a fresh install...
[22:22] <bin_bash> !ask hidn_shadows
[22:23] <bin_bash> !ask | hidn_shadows
[22:23] <boxbeatsy> coz_: ok so, i uninstalled firefox (got an error there too) and then i'm getting the same dependency errors except the firefox ones are now gone
[22:23] <kingofswords> im gonna reboot cos startup mgr has xp in it
[22:23] <spankbot> nevermind.. needed to confirm Android "Connect USB storage"
[22:23] <realsifo> why i can't include nvidia driver in ubuntu live dvd?
[22:23] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ok follow the error messages for each application,, redo them see if the erros stop
[22:23] <hidn_shadows> Bin_bash, I have a wifi problem. That's literally about all I know. It won't let me connect to any wifi, but wired is fine.
[22:23] <mouse> My laptop kept disconnecting and reconnecting and it was getting annoying so I installed ndiswrapper and a windows driver for my wireless card but then it couldn't connect at all so I uninstalled the driver and ndiswrapper but I still can't use my wireless card.  How do I fix this?
[22:23] <sparrW> tensorpudding: I'll ask in here again every few hours, so that no one complains about repetition
[22:24] <bin_bash> hidn_shadows: Do you have the drivers?
[22:24] <realsifo> is there any ubuntu forke that include the nvidia ppropieratry driver?
[22:24] <LjL> yes, called Ubuntu
[22:24] <boxbeatsy> coz_: so i'm trying to uninstall sun-java6-bin now, but it's telling me that it can't install libplexus-utils-java, so does that mean i need to install that before uninstalling java6-bin?
[22:24] <ITC> kingofswords : startupmanager = configuring grub, same thing
[22:24] <hidn_shadows> bin_bash, Yeah, it worked A-OK until this morning, I accidentally fell asleep with the lid closed and when I woke up, the wifi wouldn't work...
[22:24] <realsifo> evnt ubuntu ultimate edition does not have nvidia propiertary driver
[22:24] <boxbeatsy> coz_: or is there away to forcefully uninstall sun-java6-bin and then reinsatll it?
[22:24] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   ok stop one minute,, open syanptic package manager,, hit Search ,, type in    icedtea
[22:25] <bin_bash> hidn_shadows: did you restart?
[22:25] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   when that list comes up   right click each of the packages listed there and choose  "Remove completely"
[22:25] <boxbeatsy> coz_: yup, got it open now, none of hte packages there are insatlled
[22:25] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i deleted them all last night actually
[22:25] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ah ok
[22:25] <hidn_shadows> Bin_bash restart, re-enable, re-login, almost everything. i can go restart right now if you want me to... brb
[22:25] <realsifo> maybe i will wait until open driver of nvidia can do 3d render and compiz :)
[22:25] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i think that's when these errors started happening actually? not sure
[22:26] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   one of the issues with using PPA's  is that support is no longer easily accomplished because it is no longer ubuntu but rather a specialized install
[22:26] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i see, i get this when trying to remove sun-java6-bin https://gist.github.com/28b1fc3d5a278edb0590
[22:26] <kkal> I have no idea where to begin with this: If I wanted to replace skype with my own server/client setup, what would I need?
[22:26] <boxbeatsy> coz_: what does that mean i hae to do to uninstall sun-java6-bin?
[22:27] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  so once PPA's are used,, and erros occur,,  its difficult at the very least... well for sun java you could manually unstall all sun java packages ,, directores  etc form the system ,,
[22:27] <coz_> boxbeatsy,   not sure where to go from here  to be honest
[22:27] <iceroot> what is the difference between the "updates" and "security" repo from natty? normally packages only change through sec-updates, so i dont get why there is an updates-repo
[22:27] <kingofswords> really confused now...xp shows in boot menu but when i click it it started an install
[22:27] <kkal> anyone? Is there a host yourself alternative to skype etc?
[22:28] <boxbeatsy> coz_: but i feel like the ppa is not the problem, because i uninstalled firefox and everything is still throwing errors.  i only used the ppa for firefox
[22:28] <realsifo> the forum said casper backlist in nvidia and ati :)
[22:28] <boxbeatsy> coz_: do you know how i can fix broken packages like this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libplexus-utils-java: Depends: libxalan2-java but it is not going to be installed
[22:28] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  hold on ,, let me read that pastebin again
[22:28] <boxbeatsy> E: Broken packages
[22:29] <kkal> kingofswords: I once had an asus win7 recovery disk which would format partition 1 and install win7 on partition 2. Thats how I last lost my ubuntu install
[22:29] <kingofswords> if i reinstall windows will everything still be there?
[22:29] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  line 22 of that paste
[22:29] <Lcawte> Anyone have any idea how I can get nvidia-current to be used.. I try opening the x server thing but it tells me to run a command that breaks everything :S
[22:29] <kingofswords> does it just delete documents
[22:29] <Lcawte> Also, does X come as default in 11.04
[22:29] <kingofswords> its crazy i have to reinstall xp just to sort out mbr
[22:30] <iceroot> Lcawte: yes
[22:30] <kkal> kingofswords: wait
[22:30] <kingofswords> ok
[22:30] <iceroot> Lcawte: 12.04 will come without X (as default)
[22:30] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  out of curiosity,, was this an upgrade from 10.10  or a clean install of 11.04/
[22:30] <kkal> fix mbr, try going to the recovery console for winxp and fixing mbr there
[22:30] <hidn_shadows> bin_bash, I feel so stupid now... Thank you so much!!
[22:30] <iceroot> kingofswords: fixmbr maybe?
[22:30] <boxbeatsy> coz_: i'm running 10.04
[22:30] <bin_bash> hidn_shadows: lol what happened
[22:30] <sebsebseb> iceroot: Lcawte No I don't think Wayland will be default for 12.04
[22:30] <BobSapp> Whats the strongest encryption scheme for ssh keys?
[22:30] <kingofswords> kkal, nah done that..didnt sort it
[22:30] <coz_> boxbeatsy,  ah ok
[22:30] <kkal> and then go back to ubuntu and grub install
[22:30] <hidn_shadows> bin_bash I rebooted, and now it works
[22:31] <bin_bash> :)
[22:31] <iceroot> sebsebseb: there was an officcial posting
[22:31] <kingofswords> said it did and it wasnt there
[22:31] <bin_bash> Glad it works now
[22:31] <Lcawte> Anyone have any idea how I can get nvidia-current to be used.. I try opening the x server thing but it tells me to run a command that breaks everything :S
[22:31] <kingofswords> ahh im just gonna do it....only have mafia 2 installed..im on last level thou=(
[22:31] <sebsebseb> iceroot: got the link?  also remember 8.04,  how they introduced pulse audio loads of problems,  remember 10.04 how they introduced it and loads of problems. and so it looks 12.04 Wayland and loads of problems then
[22:32] <jaequery> wht is the download so slow ubuntu
[22:32] <jaequery> are they running off a cable modem?
[22:32] <sebsebseb> iceroot: how they introduced Plymouth in 10.04, above
[22:32] <coz_> Lcawte,  you are opening  jockey-gtk    yes?
[22:32] <coz_> Lcawte,  in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[22:32] <Lcawte> coz_: yeah, I have 2 drivers in there
[22:32] <kkal> does anyone use anything apart from skype for video chat?
[22:32] <Lcawte> coz_: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] (rev a3)
[22:33] <coz_> kkal,  I do not sorry,, I dont use video caht
[22:33] <coz_> chat
[22:33] <iceroot> sebsebseb: atm only a german article from golem
[22:33] <hidn_shadows> kkal ooVoo should be coming out with an ubuntu port soon... aside from that I use tinychat
[22:33] <coz_> Lcawte,   mm  let me check that card hold on
[22:33] <sebsebseb> iceroot: Ubuntu seem to like introducting big major changes first into LTS
[22:33] <kkal> hidn_shadows: cool! I'll check them.
[22:33] <Lcawte> coz_: I was able to run nvidia-96 or nvidia-current on my other hd before it failed..
[22:33] <iceroot> sebsebseb: why putting X into the next LTS if they want to remove it in the future
[22:34] <iceroot> sebsebseb: then oyu must support 3 years the x-server AND wayland for the normal releases
[22:34] <sebsebseb> iceroot: I think that's probably just a remour then,  part of the Ubuntu is going to get Wayland by default hype.  I think Wayland won't be in the distro by default untill after 12.04.
[22:34] <Lcawte> iceroot: same thing with Unity ;)
[22:34] <sgaap> iceroot, X will definitly be used along wayland anyway
[22:34] <coz_> Lcawte,  I believe that card would be considered legacy now...for legacy drivers
[22:34] <kkal> I wonder though, if you have your own server cant you host your own video/audio conversation?
[22:35] <Lcawte> coz_: so?
[22:35] <boxbeatsy> anyone else around who can take a look at this apt-get install trace and tell me what might be wrong? https://gist.github.com/6845cdb6116391b180ff
[22:35] <coz_> Lcawte,  so which drivers are listed in jockey?
[22:35] <iceroot> sebsebseb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-February/032578.html
[22:35] <RavenHursT> So.. I want a mount command to run on root.. is there something like a DOS autoexec.bat file for ubuntu that I could place the command in?
[22:35] <iceroot> sebsebseb: but not mentioned 12.04 but you can test it in 11.04
[22:35] <sebsebseb> yeah, but the waylan in 11.04 is rather experimental
[22:36] <sebsebseb> for 11.04 I should say, since it's not default :)
[22:36] <Lcawte> coz_: I have the experimental nvidia 3d driver & nvidia accelerated driver (current version aka nvidia-current)
[22:36] <coz_> Lcawte,  but the nvidia_current will not install/
[22:36] <Lcawte> xcoz_: The experimental 3d one is currently inuse
[22:37] <Lcawte> coz_: It does install..
[22:37] <Lcawte> coz_: The experimental 3d one is currently inuse *
[22:37] <escott> RavenHursT, rc.local
[22:37] <coz_> Lcawte,        the experimental is nouveau,, I suggest ,, if it is not working properly  to remove it
[22:38] <Lcawte> coz_: so how do I get to use the other one? Will it select it after reboot?
[22:38] <iceroot> sebsebseb: http://www.golem.de/1105/83334.html  i am sorry only have the german article which says, 12.04 will come with wayland because mark said so (no link to an article from mark)
[22:38] <ward1234> Heres an ez question... i installed compbiz, and lost my alt+tab function... uninstalled compbiz and still no alt+tab function running 11.04
[22:38] <damon> hey does anybody know much about editing gnome appearance via metacity-theme-1.xml or such?
[22:38] <coz_> Lcawte,  yes exactly   remove nouveau  ,, reboot... install nvidia-current :)
[22:39] <coz_> Lcawte,  reboot again :)
[22:39] <Lcawte> coz_: nvidia-current is installed :/
[22:39] <coz_> o0
[22:39] <RavenHursT> escott... is that in /etc?
[22:39] <coz_> Lcawte,  which is active?
[22:39] <RavenHursT> escott: nm.. found it.. thnx
[22:39] <Lcawte> coz_: nouvea or whatever its called
[22:39] <sparrW> My dock is stuck open. How can I make it autohide like it should? I can't access the bits of window that are behind it.
[22:40] <coz_> Lcawte,  click in jocky to highlight the nvidia-current,,, does it say  it is installable or does the button say Disable
[22:40] <Travis-42> Is there any easy way for me to tell what customizations I personally have made to /etc? I would I have needed to do something like use a version control system from the beginning to do so?
[22:40] <|Slacker|> hello guys
[22:40] <Lcawte> coz_: disable, should have nvidia-current or nvidia-96? :| aptitude descriptions look better for 96 (in my case)
[22:40] <Snakkah> Hello. Can someone direct me to a program similar to Norton Ghost that I could use with Ubuntu?
[22:40] <escott> Travis-42, etckeeper can use any of the major vcs
[22:40] <ward1234> hello | slacker
[22:40] <|Slacker|> is there a way to download a folder thru ubuntu one?
[22:41] <jrib> Snakkah: partimage.  Last I checked it did not support ext4 yet, but they recommended an alternative on their website
[22:41] <iceroot> Snakkah: what is norton ghost doing (and i guess there is no need for programs like nortin stuff on linux)
[22:41] <coz_> Lcawte, if only 2 drivers are listed in jockey ,, i am assuming that they have been tested with that card,,  if both drivers are installed ,, remove them..and install only one of them
[22:41] <ward1234> What are u trying to d/l |slacker|?
[22:41] <|Slacker|> i'm not using ubuntu but i'd like to download the folders from my one account
[22:41] <Snakkah> jrib, thank you. I'll look into it.
[22:41] <Travis-42> escott, cool, I'll definitely use that. No way in hindsight though, is there?
[22:41] <iceroot> Snakkah: ah norton ghost is not a strange virus-scanner, firewall, internet security or something-like-that stuff, so forget my comment
[22:41] <escott> Travis-42, not that i am aware of
[22:42] <Snakkah> Aha, no iceroot. It's a program that allows you to make a copy of the partitions on your hard drive.
[22:42] <iceroot> Snakkah: sounds like dd
[22:42] <coz_> Snakkah,  not sure but what about   casper   ,, again not sure what you were referring to
[22:42] <|Slacker|> ward1234, I wanna download the folders I have in my ubuntu one account, there too many files to download one by one
[22:43] <Snakkah> iceroot: What is dd?
[22:43] <ward1234> |Slacker| u can d/l  the iso's and burn them to a cd from the main ubuntu web page
[22:43] <Lcawte> coz_: 96 or current?
[22:43] <monday_> anyone know how to turn on xdmcp for ubuntu 11.04?
[22:43] <cute_bettong> what do i need to run 32 bit apps in 64bit ubuntu?
[22:43] <ward1234> ohohohohohoh i got u now
[22:43] <iceroot> Snakkah: disc dump
[22:43] <coz_> Lcawte,  well ,, i would go with the current,, if issues arrise with it,, then switch to the 96 which will requuire an xorg settings inclusion for 3d effects but still
[22:43] <iceroot> Snakkah: you can copy partitons with that to another harddrive, into an image, copy only bootsectors, destroy your whole system and stuff like that
[22:43] <ward1234> try the ctr+a funtion witch will select all then find an empty directory and ctr+v it then hit enter that "might" work
[22:44] <Desensitizer> Can I  use bridge-utils to bridge wired and wireless
[22:44] <ward1234> oops almsot forgot to say u have to use the ctrl+c fucntion to copy let me go try it my self very good question |Slacker|
[22:45] <Travis-42> i'm thinking of finally switching to 11.04. Does Unity now handle big multiple monitors ok?
[22:46] <cute_bettong> what do i need to run 32 bit apps on 64bit ubuntu
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: you'll get the bar at the top, on both montiors
[22:46] <iceroot> cute_bettong: nothing
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: as far as I know
[22:47] <Travis-42> sebsebseb, ok thank you
[22:47] <sebsebseb> cute_bettong: nothing or nothign as such,  64bit OS's can run 32bit apps
[22:48] <sebsebseb> or I think anyway
[22:48] <cute_bettong> i thought there was like a 32bit libs or something like that to install
[22:48] <sebsebseb> Travis-42: no probs
[22:54] <victorhugo289> Hello, I'm trying to connect to another computer via a switch, which is something I've done tons of times, but now in Ubuntu 11.04 they require me to put a 'Default GAteway', when I have never needed to do that.
[22:55] <invisiblek> victorhugo289, they require you to? you cant just leave it blank?
[22:55] <victorhugo289> In Windows and Ubuntu 10.04 I only used "IP address" and "Subnet Mask", never default gateway
[22:55] <victorhugo289> Invisiblek, yes I can
[22:55] <invisiblek> that should be fine, as long as you dont need to get to the internet
[22:55] <victorhugo289> The switch does not require 'Default gateway;
[22:55] <invisiblek> if you do, then you put your router's ip address in there
[22:55] <ward1234> |Slacker| did u figure it out yet?
[22:56] <invisiblek> if your network will only consist of whats plugged into that switch, then you dont need a gateway because you wont have one
[22:56] <victorhugo289> Look, I always create a "new wired connection" named "Home network" and I disconnect from Internet temporarily to access this other computer, I don't mind losing Internet temporarily, it's not an issue.
[22:57] <victorhugo289> Yes Invisiblek, you're right, I never needed a default gateway
[22:57] <victorhugo289> But now apparently I do, why?
[22:57] <invisiblek> i think they just put it in there for convienence
[22:57] <invisiblek> (would be my guess anyway)
[22:58] <victorhugo289> In the "New Wired Connection" dialog box everything is greyed out unless I choose a "Default Gateway" it sucks
[22:58] <escott> victorhugo289, the gui is designed for the normal user, and the normal user wants to have a gateway
[22:58] <victorhugo289> I use Windows, and Ubuntu 10.04 GUI, i was never required to.
[22:58] <invisiblek> just put an arbitrary ip address in there, like your local ip address
[22:58] <victorhugo289> I did
[22:58] <victorhugo289> It does not appear on the menu for me to select.
[22:59] <victorhugo289> When I right click on the network applet, my "Home network" is not recognized.
[22:59] <Raptors> is there a way to see the (hdx,yz) of my HDD?
[22:59] <Raptors> from ubuntu/debian
[22:59] <pushpop> my font changed in google chrome how do I change it back to default
[22:59] <victorhugo289> I believe in terminal is "Fdisk -l"
[23:00] <Raptors> I think it's (hd0,msdos5) but the auto grub.cfg put (hd1,msdos5)
[23:00] <kesi> hi all, trying to troubleshoot why the load is always so high on my ubuntu server.  This same machine has been running ubuntu desktop for years with no problem.  It's reasonably fast and has 1GB of RAM.   CPU is at least 1.5 Ghz but it's always at 100% since I installed server.  Usually it's xorg taking the most but it varies.
[23:00] <_Platypus_> Anyone know much about Firestarter? Trying to get it so I can fire it up, because I feel weird not having a firewall, but Firestarter doesn't like me. Any thoughts?
[23:00] <escott> Raptors, grub historically has been 0-indexed but everything else is 1-indexed, the 11.04 version of grub accepts letters
[23:00] <pushpop> my font changed in google chrome how do I change it back to default
[23:01] <Raptors> escott, I'm using debian
[23:01] <escott> _Platypus_, try gufw
[23:01] <brillopad> Hi guys -- anyone had an issue with an Atheros chipset running fine and then all of a sudden slowing right down? Ping going from <80ms to >6000ms.
[23:01] <victorhugo289> I'm stuck, can't connet to other computer via switch in the new Ubuntu, like I used to.
[23:01] <Raptors> #debian guy aren't answering my question though
[23:01] <Guest31046> s
[23:01] <Guest31046> hi
[23:01] <_Platypus_> escott: I will try, and let you know the end results if you would like.
[23:01] <|Slacker|> ward1234, i just wanna download my files,but i dont wanna download 1 by 1
[23:01] <Captainkrtek> Raptors, what is your question, I can try to help
[23:01] <Guest31046> I have trables after qqqqqqqqupgrade
[23:01] <zvacet> _Platypus_: you have firewall and firestarter is just front end
[23:01] <Captainkrtek> hello Guest31046
[23:01] <Guest31046> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
[23:01] <Raptors> victorhugo289, it doesn't show hdx,yz
[23:01] <Guest31046> hi
[23:02] <zvacet> !ufw | _Platypus_
[23:02] <victorhugo289> Raptors, what about "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:02] <Raptors> Captainkrtek, I'm trying to see what the (hdx,yz) of my drive is
[23:02] <Captainkrtek> Guest31046 do you have a question
[23:02] <Raptors> victorhugo289, I did that. It shows the list of partitions but not the drive #
[23:03] <Guest31046> I upgradedq by "sudo apt-qqqqqqget upgrade"  // sorry for qqQQ""qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq     it is USB keyboard.   Nice keyboard does not work after upgrade
[23:03] <Captainkrtek> Raptors, open disk utility
[23:03] <victorhugo289> But the partitions show the drive, sda3 = sda HDD.
[23:03] <brillopad> Looks like the driver that it's using is ath9k, if that's any help
[23:03] <brillopad> And I'm ready to hoof the laptop out of the window :)
[23:03] <_Platypus_> Alright, it's installing, and then I'll test it and let you know the results.
[23:03] <Captainkrtek> Guest31046, looks like you have a stuck key
[23:03] <Guest31046> How to remake upgrade qqqqqqqq...  is it possible?
[23:03] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, I can try to help
[23:03] <brillopad> Thanks, Captainkrtek :)
[23:04] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, ath9k right?
[23:04] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, and what is the issue exactly :-)
[23:04] <Raptors> Captainkrtek, it doesn't say either
[23:04] <Captainkrtek> Raptors, sorry dont know :/
[23:05] <Guest31046> I runned upgradeq.qqqq and it dounloaded 1GB! and installqqing.... and ask me about license of microsoft, but I could(can not)     say OK
[23:05] <_Platypus_> Hmmm...this one is going to be a nightmare. Anyone be up for helping me hack it up later on tonight?
[23:05] <brillopad> Captainkrtek, it works fine for a while
[23:05] <Guest31046> and I aborted upgrade
[23:05] <brillopad> And then slows right down to a halt
[23:05] <brillopad> And ping google.com goes right up to 6000ms
[23:05] <brillopad> Sometimes more
[23:05] <Guest31046> and after reboot... my mouse and keyboar (ps/2)  does not workq
[23:05] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, odd
[23:05] <brillopad> Yep :(
[23:05] <Guest31046> amd printer also does
[23:06] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, this just from the upgrade?
[23:06] <brillopad> No, fresh install. Same happens with Fedora Core. Works fine in Win 7 though.
[23:06] <zvacet> Guest31046: what MS licence you have to accept
[23:06] <Guest31046> I included old qqcrashed keyboard (crashed byqq me after panick attak 2 month ago)
[23:07] <dagnachewa> hi all
[23:07] <avance0529a> hello
[23:07] <dagnachewa> please anyone I have alsa and skype gives me only pulseaudio as device when I want to configure my microphone, how can I change that ?
[23:07] <Guest31046> zvacet:   yesq.q.. but I cannot press ok!!! because it waqs not aktive
[23:07] <Guest31046> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqbut now I found out how to say OK
[23:07] <avance0529a> hi
[23:08] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, I can help
[23:08] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, hello
[23:08] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, hit the sound icon in the top bar, then sound prefernces > input
[23:08] <Guest31046> I started upgrade in 3th time
[23:08] <zvacet> Guest31046: di you tried with arrow keys and I still don´t understand whar  kind of ms you get from updates
[23:08] <brillopad> Captainkrtek - bizarre, eh?
[23:08] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, I will do it in kde brb am in xfce
[23:09] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, yeah Im thinking it'ls your router
[23:09] <brillopad> In what way? Works fine with my Mac and Windows 7, but hates Linux
[23:09] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, thanks
[23:09] <Guest31046> I make upgrade in 3th time... now it qqqqqqqqqqqqtell me that it take ~200MBq
[23:09] <Guest31046> in first time it took qqqq1GB
[23:10] <victorhugo289> Oh, that's so dumb, the connection now works
[23:10] <victorhugo289> it appears you have to restart and it now shows on the network applet
[23:10] <victorhugo289> Silly me
[23:10] <Guest31046> what do you offer me?
[23:11] <Guest31046> one way is to install 11.04
[23:11] <brillopad> Captainkrtek - is it normal for a router to spaz out with just Linux even thought the laptop works fine with it in Win 7?
[23:11] <kosiini> Gentoo provides this nice eselect-fontconfig thing for disabling bitmap fonts, is there something similar for Ubuntu?
[23:11] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, well no, but the issue in general isnt common haha
[23:11] <ward1234> brillopad no
[23:12] <Guest31046> but I do not sure that current conditions of Kubunto allow me to do it
[23:12] <ldiamond> Anyone know how I can restrict access to a given partition for certain users/groups?
[23:12] <test1> this is test
[23:12] <sta7ic> test worked
[23:12] <kosiini> hi test1
[23:12] <_Platypus_> Got a working firewall. Thank you to all who have helped me as it has been very appreciated.
[23:12] <brillopad> Strange - how can I check which wireless chipset my laptop is using?
[23:13] <zvacet> Guest31046: maybe you downloaded and installed some packages first time so now download is smaller jujst a guess
[23:13] <Captainkrtek> lshw
[23:13] <Guest31046> upgrade was bad step....yeah?
[23:13] <Captainkrtek> brillopad, sudo lshw
[23:14] <Guest31046> zvacet: now I am waiting for uppgrade stoping.
[23:14] <zvacet> Guest31046: ok
[23:14] <brillopad> OK, it's an AR928X on the PCI Express port
[23:14] <brillopad> And it's using the ath9k driver
[23:14] <Guest31046> I loosed 2 hours! and I think I will loose all current night
[23:15] <Guest31046> (lost, sorry)
[23:15] <zvacet> Guest31046: now only one and not for first time  ;)
[23:15] <zvacet> *not
[23:15] <Guest31046> I just want to make pdf file from tex!
[23:16] <Guest31046> but it did not work... and I desided to make upgrade
[23:16] <dagnachewa> hi all
[23:16] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, am in kde to change pulseaudio it was  ??
[23:16] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, hit the sound icon in the top bar, then sound prefernces > input
[23:16] <Guest31046>  * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                                                  [ OK ]
[23:16] <Guest31046>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules                                                                          * No suitable module for running kernel found
[23:16] <Guest31046>                                                                                                        [fail]
[23:17] <zvacet> Guest31046: you can make pdf from libre office  :)
[23:17] <ChesterX> good evening, is the Ubuntu desktop's 64-bit structure suitable for netbook?
[23:17] <Captainkrtek> ChesterX, I wouldn't reccomend it
[23:17] <Captainkrtek> ChesterX, there is the netbook remix though :)
[23:17] <DrFrankenstein> Guest31046: you need to reinstall the virtual box additions
[23:18] <NoXzema> Anyone know of a teamspeak 3 package for 11.04?
[23:18] <Guest31046> I made my universy task....   and i just want to qprint it..q.   my friend heqlqped qme to compile TEX
[23:18] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, is it possible to do it by the settings panel ?
[23:18] <ChesterX> Captainkrtek, does it also exist in a 64-bit variant?
[23:18] <dagnachewa> I have only kmix on my desktop
[23:18] <Captainkrtek> yes hold on dagnachewa
[23:18] <eiriksvin> can someone help me get my conky showing?
[23:18] <dagnachewa> thanks Captainkrtek
[23:18] <Guest31046> fuc*** why I press "upgrade"
[23:18] <Captainkrtek> ChesterX, I think so, check my mirror, mirror.slashdev.org/ubuntu
[23:18] <Guest31046> ok
[23:19] <escott> Guest11276, use pdflatex instead of latex otherwise you have to use dvips and ps2pdf
[23:19] <Guest31046> I finished upgrade
[23:19] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me with automount http://paste.ubuntu.com/605896/ ?
[23:19] <Guest31046> I go to reboot
[23:19] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, system > preferences > sound
[23:19] <Guest31046> I hope keybord ps/2 will work
[23:19] <Desensitizer> guys ifup eth1 says eth1 does not exist but eth1 does exist
[23:19] <Guest31046> and printer too
[23:19] <Guest31046> see you, brothers
[23:19] <Guest31046> ))
[23:21] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, in system I dont have preferrnece
[23:21] <eiriksvin> can someone help me get my conky showing?
[23:22] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, sorry Im using Gnome
[23:22] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, brb in gnome , Captainkrtek gnome 3 ?
[23:23] <Travis-42> If I don't make a dedicated swap partition, Ubuntu creates a swap file automatically, right?
[23:23] <bin_bash> !info mpd
[23:24] <bin_bash> !info moc
[23:24] <opylk> hi, I found some little mistake http://itmages.ru/image/view/187233/11e86578
[23:24] <opylk> is it mistake?
[23:24] <eiriksvin> i have conky on my 10.10 and i can't get it to show up
[23:24] <opylk> or it should be?
[23:24] <eiriksvin> please, if you have used this, help me
[23:24] <eiriksvin> anyone
[23:25] <opylk> sorry
[23:25] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, am in gnome 3
[23:26] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, try to follow
[23:26] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, system > preferences > sound
[23:26] <dork> is it common for flash to work fine on a windows box but then be unusable and chopped on the same machine on ubuntu?
[23:26] <opylk> so, is it bug or not?
[23:26] <galfly> opylk: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:26] <xangua> dork: flash sucks on linux, fact
[23:26] <Captainkrtek> dork, depends
[23:26] <Captainkrtek> my flash player runs fine in x64 natty
[23:27] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, am in systemsetting sound
[23:27] <opylk> galfly: it's screen shoot
[23:27] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, look in the Input section
[23:27] <dork> does gnash stull suck worse than flash on linux?
[23:28] <Guest7142> yes!
[23:28] <dagnachewa> I have internal audio analog and microsofot web cam
[23:28] <Guest7142> yes, brothers
[23:28] <opylk> dork: flash content sometimes loading my cpu under 100%
[23:28] <Guest7142> printer is working
[23:28] <dork> Captainkrtek: you don't even know what the hardware difference is to make a ridiculous comparison like that
[23:28] <galfly> Travis-42: yes ubuntu creates swaps automatically unless you use the interface to mess with the partitions
[23:28] <dork> opylk: it isn't saturating resources
[23:28] <Captainkrtek> dork, what...
[23:28] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, I have internal audio analog and microsofot web cam
[23:28] <xangua> dork: it doean't support all the features
[23:28] <Captainkrtek> dork, Im saying it runs pretty good for me
[23:28] <galfly> opylk: are you going to translate all this?
[23:29] <dork> Captainkrtek: 'working for you' is relative to your hardware
[23:29] <dork> Captainkrtek: i'm basically saying 'works for me' is useless feedback
[23:29] <Captainkrtek> dork, I have other 64 bit computers and 32 bit, they all run 'pretty good' for me, I was simply making a comment
[23:29] <opylk> galfly: what do you mean?
[23:30] <opylk> dash window is too huge
[23:30] <Captainkrtek> dork, simply ignore my comments if you wish
[23:30] <dork> i have plenty of ubuntu boxes that do flash perfectly well, i'm using an asus 1201PN and that's why i'm just noticing how bad it sucks
[23:30] <opylk> on my desctop
[23:30] <opylk> desktop
[23:30] <abys> Hey guys, I'm trying to find the lib libXxf86misc.so.1 32bit version for natty anyone could help? :)
[23:31] <cheshire_fox> I'm having an issue with my notification area
[23:31] <cheshire_fox> It won't appear :o
[23:31] <Captainkrtek> cheshire_fox, sure, what is the issue related to? there are some bugs regarding the notifications
[23:31] <cheshire_fox> Trying to create a new one is a no go either.
[23:32] <Captainkrtek> cheshire_fox, can you take a screenshot?
[23:32] <cheshire_fox> Captainkrtek: I would need more of a video to accurately show it.  And I would rather not apt-get one
[23:33] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, still can't have correct device
[23:33] <Captainkrtek> cheshire_fox, haha no problem
[23:33] <dagnachewa> Captainkrtek, please help
[23:33] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, let me see
[23:34] <Captainkrtek> dagnachewa, follow this guide: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[23:34] <mickey> does a vpn hide internet activity from someone who has control over ur network?
[23:34] <k0d3g3ar> mickey, huh?
[23:34] <Captainkrtek> mickey, in what sense...
[23:34] <k0d3g3ar> mickey, and this is related to Ubuntu.....
[23:35] <mickey> yea, i found u can configure a vpn on ubuntu
[23:35] <mickey> but i'm not really sure what it is, or how to use it, or what it does
[23:35] <cheshire_fox> But what I'm saying is this.  Logged on, noticed my notification area was gone.  Thought "okay, thats odd" tried to create a new one.  never rendered in the panel I set it to.  Still thinking this is odd.  Gconf-editor is now showing I should have 4 noti areas
[23:35] <k0d3g3ar> mickey, you can configure a VPN on pretty much anything
[23:35] <cheshire_fox> none of which are appearing
[23:36] <k0d3g3ar> mickey, this is the wrong forum for that type of question.
[23:36] <k0d3g3ar> mickey, try a networking or security forum
[23:36] <mickey> will do
[23:37] <cheshire_fox> restarting gnome-panel does not help
[23:37] <cheshire_fox> (killall gnome-panel then gnome-panel)
[23:37] <cheshire_fox> hmm
[23:38] <cheshire_fox> maybe I should do that again, but in terminal, see if I get any errors
[23:38] <cheshire_fox> no errors :(
[23:39] <pushpop> How do I change the default web font in all my web browsers?
[23:39] <pushpop> on ubuntu 11.04
[23:39] <kolten> Hello?
[23:40] <cheshire_fox> kolten: 68:69
[23:40] <xangua>  on the browser preferences pushpop
[23:40] <kolten> I have a question, does Ubuntu normally ship with a firewall by default?
[23:40] <xangua> !firewall | kolten
[23:40] <trauler> is here anybody from Canada?
[23:40] <FyreFoX> hi, using 11.04 with unity on a dual screen setup with an nvidia card I seem to have issues dragging windows. if I use alt and left mouse to drag I can move the cursor to where I want it and a few seconds later the window jerks over to the destination. same thing if I use the title bar
[23:41] <pushpop> xangua, I did I set it to the ubuntu font but still doesnt apply
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !ot | trauler
[23:41] <adac> DOes unity not show gnome panels anymore?
[23:41] <cheshire_fox> Anyone want to help with seeing why I can't see my notification area anymore?
[23:42] <cheshire_fox>  /msg me if you do, as I'm going to be afk for a minute
[23:42] <Paki> makedinuha]
[23:42] <kolten> Well, is it activated by default? And how secure is it? Because my Yahoo mail account was hacked and I was wondering if using a Windows-based Virtual Box with Linux and also dual-booting Linux Mint caused the password to become sniffed.
[23:43] <pushpop> xangua, I did I set it to the ubuntu font but still doesnt apply
[23:43] <cgroza> Hello, I am here to ask if someone has gotten Padre(perl text editor) to work on Natty. It complains about some undefined reference somewhere in its source code. Anyone?
[23:43] <preecher> is it normal when i click on a application in that sidebar for it to take like 5-10 seconds to open (ubuntu11.04) may be normal just seems like longer than it should be is all
[23:44] <kolten> I mean, I do not know how it got hacked, or when, so I am suspecting everything, even using Linux distros and BSD Unix...
[23:45] <trauler> YES!  PDFLATEX IS WORKING AFTER HARD UPGRADE!!!!
[23:46] <kolten> So can anyone help me with this issue?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> kolten: My guess is that your yahoo mail account got "hacked" simply by your having an insecure password. It's also possible that you had malware in the Windows VM (assuming that you logged into yahoo mail within the VM). Firewalls don't protect against everything (for instance, trojans).
[23:47] <kolten> I changed my password and all, but I am worried that using Linux may have had something to do with it.
[23:48] <kolten> I never saw anything wrong with the VM.
[23:48] <slinker1> kolten: i would suspect a breach on yahoo itself first
[23:48] <kolten> It does use HTTPS for the login screen.
[23:49]  * kolten 
[23:49] <afrodeity> long live classic gnome
[23:49] <slinker1> kolten: true but they have a long history of security issues
[23:49] <kolten> Oh?
[23:49] <kolten> What about Gmail?
[23:50] <kolten> Perhaps maybe its time to move on to Gmail perhaps...
[23:51] <slinker1> kolten: could be
[23:52] <kolten> But if I do, its going to be a pain in the ass to move all my contacts over to Gmail and to inform all those sites and people that use my Yahoo account to contact me to start using Gmail...
[23:52] <slinker1> true that could it be someone that knows you "guessed" your password?
[23:52] <pushpop> How do I change the default web font in all my web browsers?   It doesnt seem to be the font settings in the browser
[23:53] <kolten> How could that be, its not exactly out there for all to see and know, its not like I use ABC123 or Password as my password.
[23:53] <Altheas> wow starcraft 2 runs surprisingly well on ubuntu 10.04
[23:54] <slinker1> kolten: also stay away from anything descriptive,pet names street name etc...
[23:54] <Minnen> any good mysql and gamba tutorial to recomend ppl?
[23:54] <ssfdre38> what GRUB ver are you using?
[23:54] <Altheas> when is the eta for the next LTS
[23:54] <escott> kolten there are a variety of password hashers that can help
[23:55] <escott> kolten, if you use firefox consider passhash
[23:55] <kolten> Would using something like a famous phrase from a famous character in a particular genre of entertainment be easily copied?
[23:55] <kolten> Its not like anyone knows me all that well, I have no social network accounts and I usually just use youtube.
[23:55] <avance0529a> hello all
[23:56] <escott> kolten, generally length is more important than randomness, but if it is too popular... so i wouldn't try "thelordismyshepherd", and some websites truncate to 8 characters despite your preferences otherwise
[23:56] <kolten> Youtube, wikis, and gamesites, that's it.
[23:57] <slinker1> kolten: you Do use a different pass for each account ?
[23:57] <phong_> hi guys, is there a way to run messgenr in linux
[23:57] <phong_> hi guys, is there a way to run messgenr in linux
[23:57] <escott> phong_, epiphany supports msn
[23:57] <Minnen> use pidgin
[23:57] <kolten> No, its the same for all. I do not want a friggin headache trying to remember 2000 passwords.
[23:57] <phong_> and how can i change admin password?
[23:57] <xangua> phong_: empathy, pidgin, emesene, kmess, etc
[23:58] <escott> or empathy or  whatever its name is
[23:58] <phong_> ok thanks
[23:58] <escott> kolten use passhash its really very elegant
[23:58] <xangua> escott: epiphany is a browser
[23:58] <kolten> And the password I do use is about 9 characters in length.
[23:58] <slinker1> kolten: problem with that is any site requiring a pass also probably has your email address hack could have come from any of them
[23:58] <kolten> What is passhash?
[23:59] <xangua> !ot | kolten slinker1
[23:59] <slinker1> kolten: agreed it's a pain but about the only way to keep seperation
[23:59] <escott> kolten, it takes a passphrase which could be yours dogs name and cryptographically hashes it with the site name to generate a unique password for each website, it has a firefox plugin as well
[23:59] <slinker1> xangua: well enough just trying to help...
[23:59] <phong_> how can i change root password?