[05:11] <Kokito> so, what's news in the UbuntuStudio world today?
[12:24] <ScottL> holstein, ailo  if you want a different meeting time then send an email suggestions the new time for this coming meeting
[12:24] <ScottL> otherwise i'll just remember next month and change it then
[12:48]  * abogani waves all
[13:20] <ScottL> morning abogani , how are you doing?
[13:20] <ScottL> ailo, holstein :  sorry, i didn't explain myself very well, that's what i get for posting when i first wakw up
[13:21] <ScottL> ailo, holstein : reply to the last email about rescheduling the meeting till this weekend, suggest a new time, if no one strongly objects then we rock the new time this weekend
[14:07] <abogani> ScottL: Well  thanks.
[14:09] <abogani> ScottL: By the way What have you decided about kernels? Which kernel do you want that I maintain?
[14:48] <abogani> scott-work: ^
[14:48] <scott-work> abogani: i missed the message when i left for work, i'm checking the logs now
[14:48] <abogani> scott-work: No problems.
[14:49] <falktx> abogani: hey there
[14:50] <falktx> abogani: I want to say thanks to you for working the the rt/lowlatency kernels
[14:50] <falktx> thanks to you, I made lowlatency for lucid and maverick, they work great!
[14:50] <abogani> falktx: Really?
[14:50] <falktx> abogani: yes, take a look - https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/kernel/+packages
[14:51] <falktx> there is there also rt-31 and rt-33 for maverick and natty, not just lucid
[14:51] <falktx> rt-33 fails to boot on natty though...
[14:51] <abogani> falktx: You have to remove gxf line in grub menu.
[14:52]  * abogani start to think that -lowlatency doesn't work well...
[14:53]  * abogani have started to think that -lowlatency kernel wouldn't work well...
[14:53] <abogani> falktx: Thank you for KUbuntu ;)
[14:54] <falktx> hehe
[14:54] <falktx> abogani: what is gfx ?
[14:55] <abogani> ScottL scott-work: In brief: I'll phasing out from kernel work in Ubuntu (FYI Ill return to work upstream) so I won't able to maintain a lots of kernels. So we have to choice. 
[14:56] <abogani> falktx: The rt-33 fails in Natty for a line about graphics in grub (sorry I don't care of GRUB) which requires some support from kernel (which rt-33 doesn't have got).
[14:57] <abogani> falktx: Is one of the first line in the interactivve GRUB menu.
[14:59] <falktx> abogani: oh, thanks for letting me know
[14:59] <falktx> abogani: any way to disable that automatically in a deb postinst ?
[15:00] <abogani> falktx: You are welcome. Sorry I don't have time to handle this. :-(
[15:00]  * abogani isn't a debian packaging expert
[15:00] <abogani> scottL scott-work: So do you want that I'll continue to support -lowlatency on Natty or prefer I'll working on -lowlatency on Oneric? Or do you want  that I'll revive -realtime kernel?
[15:01] <falktx> ok, abogani, thanks for the info, I'll try and see what I can do
[15:01] <abogani> falktx: Thank to you! Please let me know if you find the fix!
[15:05] <falktx> sure
[15:29] <scott-work> abogani: sorry, got busy with work
[15:29] <scott-work> abogani:  our current plan is to move forward with the -lowlatency kernel
[15:30] <scott-work> abogani:  and since we should be able to address irq conflicts without the -rt patch it would seem that only specific niche use cases require -rt kernel then
[15:31] <scott-work> abogani: so i would advocate we neither provide nor support -rt kernel at this point
[15:31] <scott-work> abogani:  i am still planning on maintaining the -lowlatency kernel for oneiric
[15:31] <scott-work> abogani: the only help that i know i will immediately need is that you maintiain your git repository
[15:31] <scott-work> abogani: if you can do that
[15:32] <abogani> scott-work: Sure it shouldn't be a pain.
[15:32] <abogani> scott-work: What should I do with the natty's one?
[15:32] <scott-work> abogani: lowlatency or rt?
[15:33] <abogani> scott-work: ll (lowlatency)
[15:33] <scott-work> i presume some people will still try to use your kernels unless you want to start telling them to use falktx's kernels
[22:38]  * ckontros waves.