[03:02] <DarkwingDuck> JontheEchidna: are you just bouncing or, are you around?
[06:29] <Quintasan> \o
[06:53] <JontheEchidna> DarkwingDuck: connection was bouncing while I was asleep
[08:12] <Riddell> bambee: are you about for the session in an hour?
[08:16] <DarkwingDuck> jtechidna: you about?
[08:16] <JontheEchidna> DarkwingDuck: yup
[08:16] <udslogger> oggy oggy oggy
[08:16] <DarkwingDuck> JontheEchidna: correct me if I'm off at all with this.... http://www.wonderly.com/2011/05/muon-kde-package-manager-and-software-center/
[08:16] <JontheEchidna> there's nothign like the smell of kernel panics in the morning
[08:17] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[08:17] <JontheEchidna> DarkwingDuck: looks accurate
[08:18] <JontheEchidna> publicity++
[08:18] <jussi> shadeslayer_: wakey wakey!
[08:18] <DarkwingDuck> JontheEchidna: I have not figured out the useage for the cli part of it yet otherwise I would have added that.
[08:19] <jussi> or any packagers about that could throw something into a PPA? (its packaged in a private repo for lucid, I need natty)
[08:19] <jussi> http://icanblink.com/
[08:40] <jussi> aww
[08:42] <bambee> morning
[08:42] <JontheEchidna> o/
[08:52] <ScottK> Would someone please merge avogadro?
[08:52] <ScottK> There's a backports request for the new version and (of course) we need to get it into one-eye-ric first.
[08:55] <valorie> ScottK: Jono just gave you major public props
[08:55] <valorie> in the Comm. roundtable
[08:56] <valorie> since you are awesome, basically
[08:57] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[08:57] <valorie> I love when our team members get kudos!
[08:58] <bambee> go to #ubuntu-uds-tohotom :P
[09:17] <ScottK> valorie: He did?
[09:29]  * ScottK heard from lex79 via email.  He'll be back ~soon.
[09:48] <bambee> actually all kubuntu developers can commit to the kcm-userconfig repository ?
[09:52] <valorie> scottk, he was describing how people are chosen for UDS
[09:52] <valorie> you were mentioned as one person always picked because of so many good comments from the engineers
[09:53] <valorie> THE one person, at least as an example
[10:03] <bambee> Riddell: the whiteboard has been updated ;)
[10:03] <ScottK> valorie: Thanks.
[10:05] <Riddell> bambee: has it?  I don't see a change on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-userconfig
[10:08] <bambee> Riddell: you don't see the whiteboard ?
[10:08] <bambee> wtf ?
[10:09] <jussi> I see items on the whiteboard here? Riddell has a cache issue? 
[10:09] <jussi> However I hve no idea what was there before
[10:11] <Riddell> it just says "Get it into KDE, KAuth backend, ldap backend" which is what it said before
[10:11] <jussi> whiteboard has: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606057/ 
[10:11] <bambee> exactly
[10:12] <bambee> Riddell: as jussi said, you've probably a cache issue... (try with another browser)
[10:12] <yofel> Riddell: are you looking at the description or the whiteboard?
[10:12] <Riddell> yofel: aaah
[10:12] <yofel> ^^
[10:12] <jussi> :D
[10:12] <Riddell> scrolldown helps
[10:12] <Riddell> ok thanks bambee
[10:13] <bambee> :)
[10:13] <jussi> should I deliver Riddell a cofffee? :D
[10:13] <bambee> +1 :P
[10:14] <bambee> Riddell: all kubuntu devs (who get access to git.k.o) can commit into the repository ?
[10:15] <Riddell> bambee: yes, that's a key feature of KDE, anyone with an account can commit anywhere
[10:15] <Riddell> (except website and a couple of other areas)
[10:15] <bambee> ok, perfect!
[10:15] <bambee> :)
[10:16] <JontheEchidna> some space-saving changes Aurelien and I came up with yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/Ktny6.png
[10:17] <JontheEchidna> much less chrome: http://www.wonderly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/muon-package-manager.png
[10:18] <bambee> Riddell: so feel free to the commit the fix about the typo :)
[10:18] <Riddell> bambee: I did
[10:19] <Riddell> it's in a KAuth branch
[10:19] <Riddell> it took three people to help me commit it
[10:19] <Riddell> did i mention I don't like git?
[10:19] <udslogger> jussi: http://devel.ag-projects.com/repositories/python-sipsimple/patches/
[10:19] <udslogger> can you pleaes find something different
[10:19] <bambee> Riddell: lool
[10:19] <bambee> :D
[10:19] <udslogger> this thing is just grossing me out
[10:20] <jussi> udslogger: :(
[10:20] <jussi> udslogger: you just got talked about because you made some blog post about integrating khelp and web or something? 
[10:20] <udslogger> jussi: yes
[10:21] <jussi> you could come join us in the docs session in jokai
[10:21] <udslogger> jussi: should I be swtiching rooms? cause it is a bit boring here 
[10:21] <bambee> Riddell: you're just familiar with bzr but git rocks !
[10:21] <DarkwingDuck> It's interesting in the doc session
[10:21] <jussi> udslogger: join us :) 
[10:21] <udslogger> jussi: gee, other side of the flipping hotel
[10:21] <udslogger> ...
[10:21] <udslogger> meh.
[10:21] <jussi> LOL
[10:21] <jussi> come anyway
[10:22] <jussi> its not _that_ far
[10:22] <DarkwingDuck> It's bouncing and it's lagging again I think.
[10:23] <jussi> udslogger: are you comig?
[10:24] <jussi> he is here!!
[10:25] <DarkwingDuck> Whois the chick that is talking?
[10:27] <valorie> the chick?
[10:29] <valorie> in the GLES session, is anyone there to discuss Kwin?
[10:29] <valorie> these seem like very thoughtful people
[10:30] <valorie> impressive after the U1 team
[10:32] <JontheEchidna> yes, Quintasan, Riddell and myself are in here
[10:32] <JontheEchidna> harald was but he left
[10:33] <valorie> :-)
[10:33] <valorie> haven't heard your voices
[10:33] <Quintasan> They did not even remotely touched KWin
[10:33] <JontheEchidna> they've been droning on about compiz
[10:33] <valorie> bring it up!
[10:33] <Quintasan> When they start talking about KWin we can actually ask something :P
[10:34] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: this is why I want to take a different approach for help.kubuntu then the help.ubunut side of things.
[10:34] <JontheEchidna> looks like they're wraping up compiz
[10:37]  * valorie pokes 'em
[10:40] <Quintasan> yofel: It's either my internets or your core is going apeshit all of sudden
[10:40] <JontheEchidna> agateau: this looks much better, thanks for the suggestions: http://i.imgur.com/c0ph2.png
[10:40] <yofel> I blame you
[10:43] <Riddell> I still say the Section: field is such a bad way or organise anything
[10:43] <bambee> JontheEchidna: congrats for muon btw :D
[10:44] <JontheEchidna> debtags are probably superior
[10:45]  * udslogger has an insane headache
[10:45] <udslogger> in me head
[10:45] <udslogger> I think it is doing the exploding
[10:45] <Quintasan> cool story uds
[10:45] <Quintasan> udslogger: 
[10:45] <Quintasan> :D
[10:45] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: are you still in doc session?
[10:46] <udslogger> yes
[10:46] <udslogger> with me headache
[10:46] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: I'll try not to make our doc session tomorrow so bloody dry. :)
[10:46] <udslogger> oh c'mon
[10:46] <udslogger> it is cool, I could like sleep
[10:47] <udslogger> that would be nice
[10:47] <udslogger> actually
[10:49] <udslogger> jussi: !
[10:50] <jussi> rock on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:50] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: sup dawg?
[10:50] <jussi> hahah
[10:50] <JontheEchidna> udslogger: finally got to kwin in here
[10:50] <udslogger> lol
[10:50] <jussi> hey, anyone coming to the blind thing tonight? they have some places leftover still
[10:50] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: are they making babies with kwin or something
[10:51] <JontheEchidna> we're talking about action items for gles in oneiric
[10:51] <jussi> if anyone wants, let me or pleia2 know
[10:52] <udslogger> JontheEchidna: so is linaro doing kwingles?
[10:52] <udslogger> cause you know, all the work we do not need to do equals time we can spend on .prn or something
[10:54] <DarkwingDuck> Well, that was a good session for me because as we build kubuntu stuff I have a base of what do to and what not to do.
[10:58] <valorie> I've started sneezing, so I've taken the nyquil
[10:58] <valorie> and will fade for the night
[10:58] <valorie> my grand plans for attending all sessions ......
[10:58] <valorie> shrunken
[11:00] <mfraz74> I'm having trouble running gtk-gnutella on a new install of Kubuntu 11.04 if the them is set to oxygen-gtk but works fine with qtcurve
[11:56] <mikisid_> hi ppl
[11:56] <mikisid_> i got problem with my kubuntu 11.04
[11:56] <mikisid_> whan try to resize window
[11:57] <yofel> system freeze when you resize konsole?
[11:57] <mikisid_> look like 2093847293847 dots on my screan
[11:57] <mikisid_> nop
[11:57] <mikisid_> anythink
[11:57] <mikisid_> whan try to resize
[11:57] <mikisid_> and not freez
[11:57] <mikisid_> like driver broke
[11:58] <yofel> odd, we have a known issue with nvidia + konsole + xserver 1.10 + resizing, but that seems to be limited to konsole
[11:58] <mikisid_> but whan play movie in full screan its ok
[11:58] <mikisid_> i can watch
[11:58] <yofel> I would file a bug against the driver
[11:58] <mikisid_> and i install binary driver
[11:58] <mikisid_> from nvidia site
[11:58] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: Yeah, I noticed that with konsole and resize as well... 
[11:59] <yofel> yeah, that's but760632
[11:59] <mikisid_> ill not gat freez system just 293847293847 dots on my screan
[11:59] <yofel> bug 760632
[11:59] <yofel> mikisid_: well, it's not only a freeze but screen corruption too in some cases
[12:00] <mikisid_> lol i cant reed that now
[12:00] <mikisid_> :D
[12:00] <yofel> anyway, if you used the driver from the nvidia site use the nvidia-bug-report.sh that's shipped and file a report in their linux forum
[12:00] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: I nothing useful to add except it does it with 11.04 64bit
[12:00] <yofel> DarkwingDuck: it's a known issue (to nvidia too)
[12:01] <mikisid_> lol what to do now
[12:01] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: Yeah, i'm reading that... But, why did it only just show up in 11.04? 10.10 was fine
[12:01] <mikisid_> i cant use system
[12:01] <yofel> it's a combination of nvidia 270 + xserver 1.10 that's causing it
[12:01] <yofel> mikisid_: remove the nvidia driver then and try nouveau
[12:01] <DarkwingDuck> Hmmz.
[12:01] <yofel> it's a driver issue
[12:01] <mikisid_> ok
[12:02] <mikisid_> but i can ply all my movies normaly
[12:02] <mikisid_> in full scran
[12:02] <mikisid_> dont got any issue
[12:02] <yofel> well, it breaks kwin, not the video playback
[12:03] <mikisid_> oh yea
[12:03] <mikisid_> :D
[12:03] <DarkwingDuck> I have no other issues with nvidia though.
[12:03] <yofel> you should have some NVRM errors in dmesg though if you have the same issue
[12:03] <yofel> me neither, and since I don't use konsole much (and don't resize it) it works fine for me
[12:04] <DarkwingDuck> i actually use it quite a bit till I find a better terminal app
[12:04]  * yofel uses yakuake and never resizes it
[12:05]  * DarkwingDuck is going to try yakuake
[12:05] <yofel> drop-down terminal using konsole kpart
[12:06] <mikisid_> just to removie all nvidia binary package and sat nouveau
[12:06] <mikisid_> ?
[12:06] <yofel> mikisid_: let's move this to #kubuntu
[12:08] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: okay, I'm sold.
[12:08] <yofel> ^^
[12:08] <DarkwingDuck> It's actually quite nice.
[12:16] <mikisid> lol with nouveau driver cant gat desktop effects :D
[12:16] <mikisid> look like thats drivers problem
[12:19]  * yofel wonders if he reinstalled the X packages as he told him..
 did i mention I don't like git?
[13:03] <shadeslayer_> of course he doesn't :P
[13:18] <yofel> so, let's see what's left to listen to today..
[13:19] <yofel> where did the ubiquity session move to o.O?
[13:20] <yofel> guess I'll listen to apport and prelinking then
[13:31] <udslogger> afiestas: bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kdelibs/ubuntu kdelibs
[13:31] <udslogger> afiestas: essentially replace kdelibs with other upstream names for packages
[13:31] <udslogger> then you can find the patches in kdelibs/debian/patches
[13:32] <udslogger> afiestas: usually kubuntu packages have a kubuntu_ prefix, those that do not are from debian
[13:32] <Quintasan> udslogger <----- stupid
[13:32] <udslogger> afiestas: code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers
[13:35] <jussi> udslogger: ping
[13:35] <jussi> udslogger: where is you? 
[13:35] <udslogger> jussi: next to Quintasan and JontheEchidna
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> in the lobby
[13:35] <jussi> and that would be where? 
[13:35] <jussi> oh
[13:35] <Quintasan> jussi: in Lobby
[13:35] <jussi> Im coming out. 
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> o god, hide
[13:35] <JontheEchidna> ;-P
[13:46] <bambee> yofel: ubiquity session moved to tomorrow at 17:05
[13:50] <afiestas> udslogger: http://www.afiestas.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/actionSearch.ogv
[13:53] <yofel> bambee: thanks
[13:53] <bambee> yofel: ;)
[13:55] <bambee> can we upgrade to oneiric btw ? I mean, some packages have been uploaded already ?
[13:56] <yofel> sure, go to /etc/apt/sources.list and s/natty/oneiric/
[13:56] <yofel> no other way till alpha1
[13:56] <bambee> ok
[13:56] <yofel> but there's not much point to upgrade from our point of view anyway (at least for the next 2 weeks)
[13:56] <yofel> I did and have a ton of held packages
[13:59] <bambee> wow 261 updates o_O
[14:06] <bambee> yofel: I wait until the alpha1, I think
[14:07] <bambee> or until it's required for us
[14:14] <jussi> http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-arm-innovation
[14:22] <bambee> jussi: currently there is a session about that ?
[14:23] <sheytan> Unity in Kubuntu - yupieeeeeee!
[14:23] <yofel> yeah, blame udslogger
[14:23] <sheytan> udslogger you made my day! :)
[14:26] <jussi> bambee: an informal unplanned session
[14:26] <bambee> ohh
[14:35] <jjesse> what?  unity in kubuntu?
[14:44] <jjesse> so from udslogger's facebook Kubuntu is switching over to Unity, if this is true can someone please explain why?  why would we move so far away from KDE
[14:49] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: it was a joke from one of the sessions.
[14:49] <jjesse> yay
[14:50] <DarkwingDuck> We were talking about defaults.
[14:50] <DarkwingDuck> Staying with Rekonq ect
[14:50] <jjesse> i saw that muon is going to be default
[14:50] <jjesse> which means i need to finish the help doc
[14:50] <jjesse> for JontheEchidna
[14:50] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: youre working on the muon doc?
[14:50] <jjesse> i've started one
[14:51] <DarkwingDuck> tomorrow (Tonight here in the states) We are having a documentation review/plans
[14:51] <jjesse> what time?
[14:52] <DarkwingDuck> one sec, lemme double check
[14:52] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/muon/doc
[14:52] <jjesse> just started to work on it again
[14:52] <DarkwingDuck> 2am california time
[14:53] <jjesse> argh that would be 5am my time?
[14:53] <jjesse> might be able to do it as i'm on the road
[14:53] <DarkwingDuck> it's amost 7 my time so it's almost 10 there?
[14:53] <jjesse> yeah i'm 3 hours different
[14:53] <jjesse> its 9:53am
[14:53] <DarkwingDuck> me nods
[14:53] <DarkwingDuck> yeah, so it starts at 5a your time.
[14:54] <jjesse> ouch i'll try to set my alarm
[14:54] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[14:54] <DarkwingDuck> I've been doing the graveyard thing.
[14:54] <jjesse> nice
[14:54] <DarkwingDuck> It's been good. 
[14:55] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: I can always call you :P
[14:55] <jjesse> so anyways i need to figure out how to document muon and get it into the project
[14:55]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[14:56] <jjesse> then we can just reference that in the kubuntu-docs section
[14:57] <DarkwingDuck> I think...Why don't we just put what we need in teh manage-software section?
[14:57] <jjesse> because if you go to help -> muon or help -> whatever the manual is missing
[14:57] <DarkwingDuck> ahhh, THAT manual
[14:58] <jjesse> yup
[14:58] <DarkwingDuck> I'll take care of the muon part in teh kubuntu-docs
[14:58] <jjesse> ok
[14:58] <afiestas> JontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/60919
[15:00] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: how long has it been since the manuals were reviews?
[15:00] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: or is that a upstream issue?
[15:01] <afiestas> JontheEchidna: http://paste.kde.org/60925/
[15:01] <jjesse> upstream but i don't know how many manuals are currnet for kde 4.X or wahtever we are on
[15:02] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: there are sections for Muon Package Manager and Muon Software Center. they just are not populated.
[15:02] <DarkwingDuck> Dammit... i think i need to start working on upstream documentation to get this shit right.
[15:02] <jjesse> wait hold on, in my Natty box w/ muon installed when i go help -> and then the manuals for all of them they give me errors
[15:03] <jjesse> are there actual manuals there?
[15:03] <jjesse> currently have no memory left to power on anothe rvm
[15:03] <DarkwingDuck> Under the khelpcenter the topics are there but, there is nothing inside of them.
[15:03] <jjesse> yeah i'm trying to fill them out :)
[15:03] <DarkwingDuck> That gets uploaded upstream correct?
[15:04] <jjesse> correct, direct to muon
[15:04]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[15:04] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: are you an upstream docs committer by any chance?
[15:04] <jjesse> nope not yet
[15:05] <DarkwingDuck> so when we lost nixternal we lost our access to upstream docs.
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[15:05] <jjesse> hahah
[15:05] <jjesse> you should just become
[15:05] <jjesse> i've sent patches to kde-docs before
[15:05] <jjesse> but don't have commit access
[15:05] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I should... 
[15:06] <DarkwingDuck> But, who else upstream does the docs?
[15:06] <DarkwingDuck> AFAIK it's half dead.
[15:06] <jjesse> it is
[15:06]  * DarkwingDuck soghs
[15:06] <jjesse> start emailing the kde-docs mailing list
[15:06] <DarkwingDuck> *Sighs
[15:06] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, we need the support badly.
[15:08] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, well, that gives some more fun.
[15:08] <jjesse> hope i didn't wreck your day
[15:08] <DarkwingDuck> Naww
[15:08] <DarkwingDuck> Just going to be a balancing act.
[15:09] <DarkwingDuck> If only their damn docs were lincenced better.
[15:09] <DarkwingDuck> Like maybe compatable with CC-BY-SA
[15:09] <DarkwingDuck> But that was too much to ask for.
[15:09] <jjesse> kde docs are stuck in a rut, i don't know if they have a good leadership
[15:09] <jjesse> but if someone jumps up and takes control i'm sure they would respect it
[15:09] <jjesse> code (docs) talk
[15:12] <udslogger> mallard!
[15:13] <shadeslayer> where's jte?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oi
[15:13] <udslogger> oggy oggy oggy
[15:13] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: bug 745127 ... which KIO flag do i set?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> s/flag/transfer call
[15:14] <DarkwingDuck> udslogger: actually, I was concidering mallard if upstream would switch.
[15:14] <shadeslayer> udslogger: do you haz neon stickers?
[15:14] <DarkwingDuck> I want stickerz
[15:16] <bambee> wtf ?
[15:16] <shadeslayer> omg awesome google page today
[15:16] <udslogger> shadeslayer: in my pants
[15:17] <shadeslayer> udslogger: good
[15:17] <shadeslayer> udslogger: i'd like to see it on your laptop
[15:17] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:17] <JontheEchidna> http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kio/html/namespaceKIO.html
[15:18] <yofel> heh, google is funny indeed ^^
[15:18] <DarkwingDuck> Damn the sun is bright.
[15:18] <udslogger> googl0rd
[15:18] <udslogger> shadeslayer: that would be difficult
[15:19] <shadeslayer> why so?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: can you still reproduce bug 745127 ?
[15:21] <shadeslayer> i can't on rekonq git
[15:22] <jussi> hehehehhehe
[15:23] <shadeslayer> udslogger: bug 643640 looks like a qt bug no?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> yep .. can't reproduce on rekonq 0.7 as well
[15:26] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I can't reproduce it at the moment, but I don't recall if happened all the time or once in a while.
[15:27] <shadeslayer> ScottK: looks like a KIO/kdewebkit bug to me, might have been fixed in subsequent releases
[15:28] <ScottK> JontheEchidna mentions in the bug where it needs to be addressed, so maybe he can reassign it.
[15:29] <shadeslayer> yeah ...
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: did you see my kwin/opengl es spec?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: can you investigate bug 745127 further?
[15:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I did not.  Please link me.
[15:30] <JontheEchidna> I made it ~10 minutes ago: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-kwin-opengles
[15:30] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:31]  * shadeslayer notes that both firefox and rekonq like to eat ramz
[15:31] <DarkwingDuck> Hence why I use chrome
[15:31] <shadeslayer> Chrome doesn't work for me all the time
[15:31] <DarkwingDuck> i HAVE YET TO HAVE ANY ISSUES
[15:31] <DarkwingDuck> Oops, caps lock fail
[15:32] <shadeslayer> but then again i have 23 tabs open ... so thats something like 20 MB per tab ... chromium uses something like 17MB per tab
[15:32] <DarkwingDuck> Then again... My laptop has 8 gigz of the ram stuff.
[15:32] <DarkwingDuck> So I'm not too worried about.
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: there is a kio transfer in a piece of either the rekonq code or the kde webkit code that doesn't set a flag to automatically overwrite things
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> I did post a link to the page where you wil find the flag
[15:34] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: we need to schedule a meeting after UDS to figure out a good schedule for both of us for the docs and how we want to walk forward.
[15:34]  * shadeslayer looks
[15:35] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: where? i don't see it on the bug report
[15:35] <shadeslayer> oh on irc
[15:35] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: we need more people... You and me plus the occational single person isn't fully cutting it.
[15:35] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse: we need to come up with something
[15:36] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway, i can't keep my eyes open. I'll catch you lot tomorrow.
[15:36] <DarkwingDuck> Goodnight all.
[15:36] <jussi> where is udslogger?
[15:36] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: Budapest? :P:P
[15:36] <jussi> bah
[15:37] <DarkwingDuck> I'm thinking walkie-talkies for UDS-P
[15:37] <DarkwingDuck> Or, GPS locaters
[15:37] <DarkwingDuck> anyway, night.
[15:38] <shadeslayer> OMG
[15:38] <shadeslayer> udslogger: you look like persia in this pic http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150585375715182&set=a.10150584362205182.683334.821070181&type=1
[15:39] <shadeslayer> that is persia right?
[15:40] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I accepted it for UDS.  It takes a while for it to show up in summit.
[15:41] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: thanks
[15:48] <ScottK> BTW, I'm not feeling well, so I think I'm going to have to pass on the prelinking session.
[15:51] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: http://identi.ca/conversation/70803653#notice-73193209
[15:52] <JontheEchidna> trololollolo
[15:52] <ScottK> Sigh.
[15:56] <shadeslayer> session in a couple of minutes
[15:58] <shadeslayer> lul
[15:58] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: udslogger makes it look like Kubuntu is moving to unity instead of unity-2d :P
[15:59] <shadeslayer> ugh ... b.k.o is not working
[15:59] <yofel> yeah, someone get udslogger something to drink, maybe he'll be able to talk sense again then
[16:12] <nigelb> udslogger: love your question ;)
[16:12] <nigelb> udslogger: I'm waiting for the answer to that one :D
[16:12] <udslogger> me too, I have another session I should attend to ^^
[16:14] <Riddell> rdieter: hi, do you know anything about prelink and its use in Fedora?
[17:18] <bambee> Riddell: this morning you asked me about the gshadow file. Look at http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/4/html/Introduction_To_System_Administration/s3-acctsgrps-gshadow.html
[17:21] <Riddell> thanks
[18:00] <afiestas> udslogger: still on the lobby?
[18:03] <afiestas> rbelem: piiing?
[18:04] <mgraesslin> afiestas: how's uds?
[18:05] <afiestas> mgraesslin: I'm enjoying it very much :p
[18:06] <mgraesslin> I heard you all are using Unity, now
[18:06] <afiestas> hehehe :p
[18:07] <afiestas> just in case somebody still doesn't know, it was all a "joke"
[18:07] <mgraesslin> noooooooooooooooooo :-D
[18:07] <afiestas> mainly because Uubuntu is not a good name (instead of Kubuntu xD)
[18:07] <afiestas> mgraesslin: we had some linaro demos using kwin with opengl ES
[18:08] <afiestas> it was kinda working but crashing quite often, the guy said that it was because of drivers issues 
[18:08] <mgraesslin> yes I have seen the picture in jr's blog post
[18:08] <mgraesslin> kwin doesn't have crashers, so it has to be driver
[18:08]  * mgraesslin is using GLES right here at the moment
[18:09] <afiestas> going downstairs to see where the people are, brb
[18:10] <mgraesslin> have fun
[19:51] <moldy> hi
[19:59] <moldy> i am running kubuntu 11.04 on a thinkpad t61p with an nvidia G84M graphics card. graphics performance for some operations (switching windows, scrolling) is very slow. i tried disabling desktop effects, which did not help. a search on launchpad leads me to believe that many people have similiar, but possibly not identical problems. can you provide any hints on how to debug this?
[20:00] <moldy> when i switch window or drag them around or the like, i see that xorg's cpu usage goes up to about 80% or more
[20:02] <moldy> vga relevant output of lspci -k: http://nopaste.info/52d0c0cf9c.html
[20:02] <moldy> xorg log file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606252/
[20:36] <ulysses> udslogger: ping
[21:21] <udslogger> ulysses: pong
[21:21] <ulysses> udslogger: I'm going to Budapest tomorrow!
[21:22] <udslogger> ulysses: yay
[21:23] <ulysses> what?:\
[21:31] <rbelem> afiestas, pong
[21:31] <udslogger> ulysses: hooray
[21:31] <udslogger> ah dang, martin left
[21:31] <rbelem> udslogger, where are you?
[21:32] <rbelem> :-)
[21:32] <udslogger> rbelem: foyer
[21:32] <udslogger> has anyone at uds seen persia by any chance?
[21:33] <rbelem> udslogger, nope
[21:33] <rbelem> udslogger, where is foyer?
[21:33] <udslogger> rbelem: lobby
[21:33] <udslogger> bar
[21:34] <udslogger> oh, I think I hear persia
[21:35] <udslogger> rbelem: where are you?
[21:37] <afiestas> I'm on the room doing some hacking
[21:37] <afiestas> ah, it may be time for a beer 
[21:37] <afiestas> rbelem: beer time?
[21:40] <rbelem> afiestas, balmer's session time
[21:40] <rbelem> is the spelling correct?
[21:40] <afiestas> http://xkcd.com/323/ :p
[21:40] <Quintasan> oh god
[21:40] <rbelem> i just got a kernel panic
[21:41] <Quintasan> we just came back from royal spa, didnt we udslogger
[21:41] <udslogger> Quintasan: where are thou?
[21:41] <Quintasan> udslogger: in my rooms
[21:41] <udslogger> grab yer latop and come to the foyer
[21:41] <udslogger> we are doing the haxx0ring
[21:41] <Quintasan> Foyer?
[21:41] <Quintasan> awesome
[21:41] <Quintasan> coming right away
[21:41] <afiestas> see you in 5min
[21:41] <Quintasan> Riddell: by the way, the dinner per diem is actually 5200 forints
[21:41] <Quintasan> :)
[21:44] <udslogger> rbelem: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-ballmers-peak
[21:51] <ulysses>  5200 forint for a dinner?:o
[21:53] <shadeslayer> udslogger: http://i.imgur.com/VGvcy.png 
[21:54] <shadeslayer> and the add/remove buttons actually work and everything
[21:56] <Riddell> ulysses: I'm told that forint is a currency not an obscure C++ keyword
[21:57] <shadeslayer> hahaha ^^
[21:57] <udslogger> shadeslayer: you are kidding, right?
[21:57] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whut?
[21:57] <shadeslayer> udslogger: what's the issue?
[21:57] <udslogger> that dialog is flipping horrible
[21:57] <shadeslayer> :'(
[21:57] <shadeslayer> udslogger: whats the problem?
[21:58]  * shadeslayer wanted it to be simple
[22:01] <shadeslayer> udslogger: it starts out like this : http://i.imgur.com/rMGiY.png
[22:16] <shadeslayer> omg its raining \o/
[22:16] <ulysses> :(
[22:17] <yofel> shadeslayer: share some, it's far too dry here :(
[22:17] <shadeslayer> yofel: dude, you've not seen try till you've been in Delhi
[22:17] <yofel> true ^^
[22:17] <shadeslayer> temperatures around 40oC every day
[22:18] <shadeslayer> s/try/dry
[22:18] <yofel> I can live without that...
[22:18] <shadeslayer> udslogger: you haven't told me why my dialog is horrible 
[22:18] <shadeslayer> i shall pester you till you tell me
[23:26] <Quintasan> wtf
[23:28]  * yofel hits his router
[23:29] <shadeslayer> ok guys, night
[23:30] <yofel> gn