| Superdave_ | Anyone able to help with first booting live CD? getting the message: 'No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!' | 00:11 |
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| KM0201 | Superdave_: first thought, would be a bad burn... try reburning, and burn at the slowest setting your software allows | 00:20 |
| Superdave__ | Ok. Would using the mini iso work better? | 00:21 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: the mini.iso is a text based installer... downloads a lo tof stuff from the internet, etc | 00:23 |
| KM0201 | i wouldn't say it works better, but it works fine, but it is slower, because it downloads a lo tof stuff from the internet | 00:23 |
| Superdave__ | Hmm. I'm doing a laptop install. What are the chances that it will work with the wireless cards that I have? | 00:24 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: it depends.. it detects mine no problem (atheros ar5001) | 00:25 |
| KM0201 | i would *THINK* it would probably work fine w/ older Intels as well.. Broadcoms and Ralinks, very unlikely | 00:25 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: can you cable your laptop to your router temporarily? | 00:25 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: you also need to understand, the mini.iso, is a text based installer, it doesn't have a friendly GUI like the live cd installer... so thats something to think about as well | 00:26 |
| Superdave__ | It's got no native Ethernet, but I do have a USB adapter that has worked with other distros no problem. | 00:27 |
| Superdave__ | I'm cool with text based | 00:27 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: just cuz it works "no problem" doesn't necessarily mean its going to work w/ the alt cd. | 00:27 |
| Superdave__ | Yeah, that's what I thought... | 00:27 |
| Superdave__ | I'll work with the live cd. | 00:29 |
| KM0201 | Superdave__: then i would try to reburn the ISO, very slowly. | 00:29 |
| KM0201 | if that doesn't work, download a new ISO... | 00:29 |
| KM0201 | and burn slowly | 00:29 |
| Superdave__ | Ok. Thanks for the help!! | 00:29 |
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| jmarsden | jgould: Ubuntu One support within Lubuntu is minimal-to-nonexistent right now. It is one possible item for work in the development of Oneiric, the 11.10 release... | 02:57 |
| ubuntu | is lxde faster than xfce? | 04:16 |
| palhmbs | ubuntu, faster, & better in many, many ways! | 04:23 |
| palhmbs | also, xfce doesn't get away from a gdm login - lxde does!! | 04:24 |
| ubuntu | k | 04:24 |
| head_victim | jmarsden: I've used UbuntuOne in Lubuntu before. I just installed it and it worked fine. | 04:26 |
| head_victim | I'm pretty sure I just installed the gnome client though | 04:27 |
| jmarsden | head_victim: OK. So I was at least technically correct: "Ubuntu One support within Lubuntu is minimal-to-nonexistent..." You had to add it from a package that is not part of Lubuntu :) | 07:10 |
| head_victim | jmarsden: just letting you know it is possible to have it working, just not really integrated. So that's at least a start | 07:57 |
| jmarsden | Yes, it's good to know. How many GNOME libraries did adding the GNOME client drag in with it? | 07:58 |
| MrChrisDruif | And I'm off again. See y'all soon (about 30 mins or so). Aloha! | 08:06 |
| palhmbs | jmarsden, I've just found out that I have 3D support on my video - what's some neat WM effects that I can do with Openbox / Lubuntu? | 08:20 |
| jmarsden | palhmbs: None at all, out of the box. Some folks do add compiz etc etc but that kind of thing is not really a design goal of Lubuntu as far as I know. | 08:21 |
| palhmbs | ah right - so compiz is the favorite then? | 08:22 |
| jmarsden | For 3D desktop effects, yes, I think so. I don't use it myself; the 3Dness in my desktop video card only gets used when I do something that needs it, like 3D CAD :) | 08:22 |
| palhmbs | 3D CAD? - I'm designing a house, I am so grateful that you mentioned CAD, what app do you recommend? | 08:23 |
| palhmbs | for architecture? | 08:23 |
| jmarsden | I do weird 3D stuff for 3D printing ( http://reprap.org )... so I'm not a good person to recommend general purpose CAD software. You can try freecad, but it is not really a finished product yet... | 08:26 |
| bioterror | you can run dcompmgr or something and replace lxpanel with docky | 08:27 |
| bioterror | for example | 08:27 |
| jmarsden | There is also librecad which I have never tried. | 08:27 |
| bioterror | I'm not a fan of 3D desktop neither | 08:27 |
| bioterror | spinning cube just makes me feel dizzy | 08:27 |
| palhmbs | jmarsden, I've looked at reprap - my dad is a tv & radio technician and HAM operator - I thought he'd be quite interested in reprapping his own parts. | 08:40 |
| jmarsden | palhmbs: It is a technology with a lot of potential. I'm a member of the reprap.org core team, although these days I am pretty inactive... it's a lot of fun, and a big challenge to make it actually work at all, although it is a lot easier now than it was a couple of years ago! | 08:42 |
| palhmbs | jmarsden, sure looks fun - I like the idea fixing broken plastic stuffs with it, like a cog in a video / CD player for example. | 08:44 |
| palhmbs | the junior reprap is sooo cute | 08:44 |
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| UndiFineD | gilir, is there a blueprint up today ? | 09:48 |
| MrChrisDruif | Blueprint? | 09:48 |
| gilir | UndiFineD: nothing specific for Lubuntu | 09:49 |
| UndiFineD | ok | 09:49 |
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| UndiFineD | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-Makes-Lubuntu-Official-Derivative | 11:35 |
| bioterror | PAAARTTTTIIIIII!!!! | 11:36 |
| bioterror | http://koti.kapsi.fi/airair/arvaa/dance.gif ;D | 11:38 |
| koolhead11 | hi all | 11:41 |
| MrChrisDruif | Nothing is official until gilir tells us ;) | 11:46 |
| MrChrisDruif | Or is that the official announcement? | 11:57 |
| WiZ | announcement? | 12:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | The Lubuntu is an official derivative | 12:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-Makes-Lubuntu-Official-Derivative | 12:03 |
| WiZ | that's what I thought you were talking about \o/ | 12:04 |
| WiZ | although they say 'Lubuntu is mainly geared toward low-memory computers, such as the Pentium II, which packs a mere 128MB of RAM' | 12:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | Is it wrong? | 12:07 |
| * koolhead11 downloading latest ISO of lubuntu 2 give a try :) | 12:09 | |
| bioterror | I DUNNO, BUT I'M PARTYING! ;D | 12:16 |
| bioterror | ahh.. great job everyone! ;) | 12:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | bioterror; Is it official yet? I didn't hear gilir about it here or on the mailing-list | 12:20 |
| bioterror | MrChrisDruif, maybe he's too busy to irc | 12:20 |
| stlsaint | MrChrisDruif: as of yesterday it was not official | 12:20 |
| stlsaint | MrChrisDruif: thats if your talking about lubuntu becoming official | 12:21 |
| MrChrisDruif | stlsaint; I was | 12:21 |
| stlsaint | aye | 12:27 |
| head_victim | jmarsden: sorry I didn't have the time to check it then | 12:49 |
| head_victim | jmarsden: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606119/ | 12:50 |
| pcman | Lubuntu will be an official derivative, is this true? | 12:56 |
| MrChrisDruif | It will, but the real official announcement has to be made | 13:00 |
| bioterror | gilir, IS IT TRUE?! | 13:08 |
| bioterror | gilir, what linux magazine says | 13:08 |
| bioterror | gilir, MrChrisDruif is saying it is not | 13:08 |
| gilir | bioterror: technically, it will be official when the 1st ISO will be available | 13:09 |
| bioterror | so it is true! | 13:09 |
| bioterror | \o/ | 13:10 |
| gilir | so, unless we have big problems since this, it's true :) | 13:10 |
| gilir | since / until | 13:10 |
| bioterror | I think it wont be a problem to upload couple of iso images | 13:11 |
| bioterror | as we now have that 64bit version too :--) | 13:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | What am I doing? | 13:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | bioterror; It's not tested yet ;) | 13:12 |
| WiZ | well done! | 13:14 |
| pcman | gilir: congratulations! | 13:15 |
| pcman | well done! | 13:15 |
| gilir | thank you pcman :) | 13:15 |
| gilir | pcman: it was possible because you worked hard on pcmanfm/LXDE, so I should thank you first :) | 13:16 |
| pcman | gilir: developers are still lacking so far. :-( | 13:19 |
| gilir | pcman: yeah :( Hopefully, with Lubuntu offcial, we may have more contributions | 13:20 |
| WiZ | :) | 13:21 |
| bioterror | some ubuntu developers defects to lubuntu ;) | 13:21 |
| pcman | :) | 13:21 |
| bioterror | "ooohhh this new derivate, so promising!" | 13:21 |
| gilir | pcman: I'll try also to be more involved in LXDE developements in the next weeks :) | 13:22 |
| pcman | gilir: thanks | 13:22 |
| bioterror | gilir, have you tried midori web browser? | 13:22 |
| pcman | gilir: the dir tree is 90% finished now. | 13:22 |
| gilir | bioterror: I don't expect miracles so far, but who knows ? ;) | 13:23 |
| gilir | pcman: great news :) | 13:23 |
| pcman | gilir: so except for file searching, the last missing feature from the old pcmanfm 0.5 series will be available. | 13:23 |
| gilir | pcman: also, do you plan to add plugins system in short / medium term ? | 13:24 |
| pcman | gilir: it's planned | 13:24 |
| pcman | gilir: I saw your TODO | 13:24 |
| pcman | gilir: I don't have time yet to design APIs | 13:24 |
| gilir | pcman: ok, no problem :) | 13:24 |
| pcman | gilir: loading modules on startup is not very difficult. | 13:24 |
| pcman | gilir: the problem is how they interact with the main program. | 13:25 |
| gilir | pcman: plugins are not a high priority so far | 13:25 |
| gilir | pcman: yes, it's important to take some time to design a clean API | 13:26 |
| pcman | gilir: the plugin support for lxappearance, for example, is a dirty hack. | 13:26 |
| pcman | gilir: this cannot happen in the file manager | 13:26 |
| pcman | gilir: in my plan, we can have a plugin showing desktop panels. | 13:27 |
| pcman | gilir: so the desktop panel runs in the same process with the file manager. | 13:27 |
| gilir | pcman: it's an interesting feature :) | 13:27 |
| pcman | gilir: actually I want to make a new desktop panel. | 13:28 |
| pcman | gilir: a more modern, cleaner, and less buggy one. | 13:28 |
| gilir | pcman: but first, you need to finish the files manager :) | 13:31 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 13:31 |
| bioterror | is it possible to remove launcher (alt+f2) from lxpanel and add it somehow into openbox keybinding? | 13:32 |
| bioterror | I remember it was so | 13:32 |
| pcman | gilir: true | 13:32 |
| bioterror | :-) | 13:32 |
| pcman | gilir: I'm not able to do all of these at the same time. | 13:32 |
| gilir | pcman: of course, I'm aware of that :) | 13:33 |
| gilir | pcman: concerning the pcmanfm, do you still need the copy of exo inside libfm ? | 13:34 |
| pcman | gilir: yes | 13:35 |
| gilir | pcman: because near in the furture, we should investigate GTK3 migration, and exo is a big piece | 13:35 |
| pcman | gilir: it's for the icon view. | 13:35 |
| gilir | pcman: you can't use the standart exo library ? | 13:35 |
| pcman | gilir: that's not a problem by using macros | 13:35 |
| pcman | gilir: I only need one object in that lib. | 13:35 |
| pcman | gilir: it's no need to link the whole lib and it's dependencies. | 13:36 |
| pcman | gilir: the migration can be done with compatibility macros IMO. | 13:36 |
| gilir | arf that's quite big for only 1 object :/ | 13:36 |
| pcman | gilir: the icon view in exo implements something gtk+ itself doesn't provide. | 13:37 |
| gilir | pcman: not sure it's possible for 100% of the code | 13:37 |
| pcman | gilir: I think it's possible most of the time. | 13:37 |
| WiZ | lol | 13:38 |
| stlsaint | gilir: sup | 13:41 |
| pcman | btw, I got an idea | 13:41 |
| pcman | is it possible to add messages to apt-get and synaptic to tell others , removing 'lubuntu-desktop' won't remove its dependencies? | 13:42 |
| pcman | I think this is one of the top one FAQs. | 13:42 |
| pcman | the 'lubuntu-desktop' will be removed prompt from package manager does confuses many users. | 13:43 |
| gilir | pcman: we probably have this problem solved in the next days/weeks, with the official build | 13:43 |
| pcman | gilir: oh? | 13:44 |
| koolhead11 | woahh so non selected lang packs gets deleted. nice | 13:45 |
| gilir | pcman: we will remove the hard depends between lubuntu-desktop and others packages | 13:45 |
| koolhead11 | gilir, congrats!! | 13:46 |
| gilir | it was because our scripts use it to build ISO | 13:46 |
| cjohnston | awfully nice of omg to make the announcement for lubuntu http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-made-official-ubuntu-derivative/ | 15:14 |
| phillw | cjohnston: it was on the linux magazine 1st. The news broke yesterday, but Julien had not had chance to make a release note. | 15:20 |
| cjohnston | I see that too | 15:21 |
| phillw | Excellent news regardless as to how it was released :D | 15:21 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 15:31 |
| kosaidpo | i wanna install the last card driver the non-free one for ati readon any guid to recomend ?? tnx | 15:32 |
| gnewb | I just tried apt-get update , it did not work, then I used KPackage kit/? and it did, Lubuntu 10.04, was I in error? | 16:26 |
| IAmNotThatGuy | thanks and congrats all for helping us in bringing lubuntu official | 16:51 |
| kosaidpo | CONGRATULATION GUYS | 17:04 |
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| gnewb | Congratz | 17:09 |
| jonathan_ | hi | 17:57 |
| jonathan_ | hi lubuntu | 17:58 |
| lubuntu | hi jonathan :) | 17:58 |
| jonathan_ | booted from the live iso? | 17:58 |
| lubuntu | usb stick ;) | 17:59 |
| lubuntu | I'm installing on my notebook. | 17:59 |
| jonathan_ | I installed yesterday | 17:59 |
| jonathan_ | do you know how much of the cpu xorg usually takes? | 18:00 |
| lubuntu | I was trying casper but it doesn't work with lubuntu :'( and other flavours have graphic issue. | 18:00 |
| jonathan_ | it's taking betwen 12 and 20% of my cpu constantly | 18:00 |
| jonathan_ | that doesn't seem right | 18:01 |
| lubuntu | I don't know :( | 18:01 |
| lubuntu | tomorrow I need to install ubuntu on a 8-core with 48GB... I'm thinking about lubuntu with NIS and NFS :) | 18:03 |
| lubuntu | Oh, I have to restart... bye bye | 18:03 |
| jonathan_ | bye | 18:03 |
| jonathan_ | any developers around? | 18:04 |
| rob0917 | is ubuntu officially supporting lubuntu now? | 18:08 |
| jonathan_ | no | 18:09 |
| jonathan_ | 11.10 and on | 18:09 |
| rob0917 | ok | 18:09 |
| rob0917 | but it is in the works | 18:09 |
| jonathan_ | yes | 18:09 |
| rob0917 | good | 18:09 |
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| Unit193 | Howdy Salvatos ;) | 20:51 |
| Salvatos | Hi :) | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | Yet another good choice! | 20:52 |
| Salvatos | I'm looking for info but the site is loading incredibly slowly; I'm mostly wondering if I can run lubuntu on a persistent USB | 20:52 |
| Unit193 | Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE (And some change in default apps) so you can do it | 20:55 |
| Unit193 | !usb | Salvatos | 20:55 |
| ubot5 | Salvatos: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 20:55 |
| Salvatos | Ah, thanks :) | 20:56 |
| Salvatos | I've tried PuppyLinux but it felt bloated, yet a bit limiting, so I'm looking for other options | 20:56 |
| bioterror | Salvatos, I booted lubuntu CD, waited for desktop to load, insert usb stick in and install lubuntu into that stick | 20:57 |
| bioterror | and remember to use ext2 with USB | 20:57 |
| Salvatos | I'm going to need to install directly on the USB, though, my CD burner is pretty much dead | 20:58 |
| bioterror | that way I can even upgrade it without a problem | 20:59 |
| cjohnston | 64 bit.. yay | 21:13 |
| bioterror | that site is giving it to me really slow | 21:14 |
| bioterror | been leeching it for over 2 hours | 21:14 |
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| Unit193 | bioterror: From the torrent? | 21:20 |
| bioterror | from that webpage | 21:20 |
| bioterror | torrent could be faster by now | 21:20 |
| cjohnston | Unit193: is there a 64bit torrent yet? | 21:21 |
| bioterror | yes | 21:21 |
| bioterror | look for mailing list | 21:21 |
| cjohnston | if so I'll serve it | 21:21 |
| cjohnston | ok | 21:21 |
| bioterror | I'll put ^C for the wget | 21:23 |
| cjohnston | who has access to add the link to the torrent on the site? | 21:25 |
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| Unit193 | It's best to test it first (I would think so anyway) | 21:27 |
| cjohnston | true | 21:28 |
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| phillw | bioterror: if the 64 bit checks out okay, pop it onto my server area. Thanks. | 21:46 |
| bioterror | haaaa | 21:47 |
| bioterror | torrent is even slower | 21:47 |
| bioterror | maybe tomorrow then | 21:47 |
| palhmbs | it there a left-right audio balance app? | 22:17 |
| palhmbs | I haven't found the balance using alsamixer :( | 22:17 |
| Salvatos | Wouldn't it be the slider under the Front entry? | 22:18 |
| palhmbs | Salvatos, Front entry, <-- is that on the menu or panel or what? | 22:24 |
| Salvatos | Well as soon as I launch ALSA I get a bunch of possible outputs (Master, Headphones, PCM, Front, Surround...) | 22:25 |
| Salvatos | Each has a volume slider (vertical), and some have a balance slider underneath | 22:25 |
| palhmbs | oh wait! - Audacious has it built-in - doh! | 22:26 |
| palhmbs | how noob of me, my apologies | 22:26 |
| Salvatos | No problem :) | 22:26 |
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| LAcan | so I wrote a bash script that moves a rather lrge file over a slow network connection. does anyone know how I can get the script to open the gui 'moving file' dialogue that shows a progress meter? | 23:23 |
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