[00:11] Anyone able to help with first booting live CD? getting the message: 'No DEFAULT or UI configuration directive found!' [00:20] Superdave_: first thought, would be a bad burn... try reburning, and burn at the slowest setting your software allows [00:21] Ok. Would using the mini iso work better? [00:23] Superdave__: the mini.iso is a text based installer... downloads a lo tof stuff from the internet, etc [00:23] i wouldn't say it works better, but it works fine, but it is slower, because it downloads a lo tof stuff from the internet [00:24] Hmm. I'm doing a laptop install. What are the chances that it will work with the wireless cards that I have? [00:25] Superdave__: it depends.. it detects mine no problem (atheros ar5001) [00:25] i would *THINK* it would probably work fine w/ older Intels as well.. Broadcoms and Ralinks, very unlikely [00:25] Superdave__: can you cable your laptop to your router temporarily? [00:26] Superdave__: you also need to understand, the mini.iso, is a text based installer, it doesn't have a friendly GUI like the live cd installer... so thats something to think about as well [00:27] It's got no native Ethernet, but I do have a USB adapter that has worked with other distros no problem. [00:27] I'm cool with text based [00:27] Superdave__: just cuz it works "no problem" doesn't necessarily mean its going to work w/ the alt cd. [00:27] Yeah, that's what I thought... [00:29] I'll work with the live cd. [00:29] Superdave__: then i would try to reburn the ISO, very slowly. [00:29] if that doesn't work, download a new ISO... [00:29] and burn slowly [00:29] Ok. Thanks for the help!! === JasonO_ is now known as JasonO === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [02:57] jgould: Ubuntu One support within Lubuntu is minimal-to-nonexistent right now. It is one possible item for work in the development of Oneiric, the 11.10 release... [04:16] is lxde faster than xfce? [04:23] ubuntu, faster, & better in many, many ways! [04:24] also, xfce doesn't get away from a gdm login - lxde does!! [04:24] k [04:26] jmarsden: I've used UbuntuOne in Lubuntu before. I just installed it and it worked fine. [04:27] I'm pretty sure I just installed the gnome client though [07:10] head_victim: OK. So I was at least technically correct: "Ubuntu One support within Lubuntu is minimal-to-nonexistent..." You had to add it from a package that is not part of Lubuntu :) [07:57] jmarsden: just letting you know it is possible to have it working, just not really integrated. So that's at least a start [07:58] Yes, it's good to know. How many GNOME libraries did adding the GNOME client drag in with it? [08:06] And I'm off again. See y'all soon (about 30 mins or so). Aloha! [08:20] jmarsden, I've just found out that I have 3D support on my video - what's some neat WM effects that I can do with Openbox / Lubuntu? [08:21] palhmbs: None at all, out of the box. Some folks do add compiz etc etc but that kind of thing is not really a design goal of Lubuntu as far as I know. [08:22] ah right - so compiz is the favorite then? [08:22] For 3D desktop effects, yes, I think so. I don't use it myself; the 3Dness in my desktop video card only gets used when I do something that needs it, like 3D CAD :) [08:23] 3D CAD? - I'm designing a house, I am so grateful that you mentioned CAD, what app do you recommend? [08:23] for architecture? [08:26] I do weird 3D stuff for 3D printing ( http://reprap.org )... so I'm not a good person to recommend general purpose CAD software. You can try freecad, but it is not really a finished product yet... [08:27] you can run dcompmgr or something and replace lxpanel with docky [08:27] for example [08:27] There is also librecad which I have never tried. [08:27] I'm not a fan of 3D desktop neither [08:27] spinning cube just makes me feel dizzy [08:40] jmarsden, I've looked at reprap - my dad is a tv & radio technician and HAM operator - I thought he'd be quite interested in reprapping his own parts. [08:42] palhmbs: It is a technology with a lot of potential. I'm a member of the reprap.org core team, although these days I am pretty inactive... it's a lot of fun, and a big challenge to make it actually work at all, although it is a lot easier now than it was a couple of years ago! [08:44] jmarsden, sure looks fun - I like the idea fixing broken plastic stuffs with it, like a cog in a video / CD player for example. [08:44] the junior reprap is sooo cute === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [09:48] gilir, is there a blueprint up today ? [09:48] Blueprint? [09:49] UndiFineD: nothing specific for Lubuntu [09:49] ok === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [11:35] http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-Makes-Lubuntu-Official-Derivative [11:36] PAAARTTTTIIIIII!!!! [11:38] http://koti.kapsi.fi/airair/arvaa/dance.gif ;D [11:41] hi all [11:46] Nothing is official until gilir tells us ;) [11:57] Or is that the official announcement? [12:02] announcement? [12:03] The Lubuntu is an official derivative [12:03] http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Ubuntu-Makes-Lubuntu-Official-Derivative [12:04] that's what I thought you were talking about \o/ [12:06] although they say 'Lubuntu is mainly geared toward low-memory computers, such as the Pentium II, which packs a mere 128MB of RAM' [12:07] Is it wrong? [12:09] * koolhead11 downloading latest ISO of lubuntu 2 give a try :) [12:16] I DUNNO, BUT I'M PARTYING! ;D [12:16] ahh.. great job everyone! ;) [12:20] bioterror; Is it official yet? I didn't hear gilir about it here or on the mailing-list [12:20] MrChrisDruif, maybe he's too busy to irc [12:20] MrChrisDruif: as of yesterday it was not official [12:21] MrChrisDruif: thats if your talking about lubuntu becoming official [12:21] stlsaint; I was [12:27] aye [12:49] jmarsden: sorry I didn't have the time to check it then [12:50] jmarsden: http://paste.ubuntu.com/606119/ [12:56] Lubuntu will be an official derivative, is this true? [13:00] It will, but the real official announcement has to be made [13:08] gilir, IS IT TRUE?! [13:08] gilir, what linux magazine says [13:08] gilir, MrChrisDruif is saying it is not [13:09] bioterror: technically, it will be official when the 1st ISO will be available [13:09] so it is true! [13:10] \o/ [13:10] so, unless we have big problems since this, it's true :) [13:10] since / until [13:11] I think it wont be a problem to upload couple of iso images [13:11] as we now have that 64bit version too :--) [13:11] What am I doing? [13:12] bioterror; It's not tested yet ;) [13:14] well done! [13:15] gilir: congratulations! [13:15] well done! [13:15] thank you pcman :) [13:16] pcman: it was possible because you worked hard on pcmanfm/LXDE, so I should thank you first :) [13:19] gilir: developers are still lacking so far. :-( [13:20] pcman: yeah :( Hopefully, with Lubuntu offcial, we may have more contributions [13:21] :) [13:21] some ubuntu developers defects to lubuntu ;) [13:21] :) [13:21] "ooohhh this new derivate, so promising!" [13:22] pcman: I'll try also to be more involved in LXDE developements in the next weeks :) [13:22] gilir: thanks [13:22] gilir, have you tried midori web browser? [13:22] gilir: the dir tree is 90% finished now. [13:23] bioterror: I don't expect miracles so far, but who knows ? ;) [13:23] pcman: great news :) [13:23] gilir: so except for file searching, the last missing feature from the old pcmanfm 0.5 series will be available. [13:24] pcman: also, do you plan to add plugins system in short / medium term ? [13:24] gilir: it's planned [13:24] gilir: I saw your TODO [13:24] gilir: I don't have time yet to design APIs [13:24] pcman: ok, no problem :) [13:24] gilir: loading modules on startup is not very difficult. [13:25] gilir: the problem is how they interact with the main program. [13:25] pcman: plugins are not a high priority so far [13:26] pcman: yes, it's important to take some time to design a clean API [13:26] gilir: the plugin support for lxappearance, for example, is a dirty hack. [13:26] gilir: this cannot happen in the file manager [13:27] gilir: in my plan, we can have a plugin showing desktop panels. [13:27] gilir: so the desktop panel runs in the same process with the file manager. [13:27] pcman: it's an interesting feature :) [13:28] gilir: actually I want to make a new desktop panel. [13:28] gilir: a more modern, cleaner, and less buggy one. [13:31] pcman: but first, you need to finish the files manager :) [13:31] hmmm [13:32] is it possible to remove launcher (alt+f2) from lxpanel and add it somehow into openbox keybinding? [13:32] I remember it was so [13:32] gilir: true [13:32] :-) [13:32] gilir: I'm not able to do all of these at the same time. [13:33] pcman: of course, I'm aware of that :) [13:34] pcman: concerning the pcmanfm, do you still need the copy of exo inside libfm ? [13:35] gilir: yes [13:35] pcman: because near in the furture, we should investigate GTK3 migration, and exo is a big piece [13:35] gilir: it's for the icon view. [13:35] pcman: you can't use the standart exo library ? [13:35] gilir: that's not a problem by using macros [13:35] gilir: I only need one object in that lib. [13:36] gilir: it's no need to link the whole lib and it's dependencies. [13:36] gilir: the migration can be done with compatibility macros IMO. [13:36] arf that's quite big for only 1 object :/ [13:37] gilir: the icon view in exo implements something gtk+ itself doesn't provide. [13:37] pcman: not sure it's possible for 100% of the code [13:37] gilir: I think it's possible most of the time. [13:38] lol [13:41] gilir: sup [13:41] btw, I got an idea [13:42] is it possible to add messages to apt-get and synaptic to tell others , removing 'lubuntu-desktop' won't remove its dependencies? [13:42] I think this is one of the top one FAQs. [13:43] the 'lubuntu-desktop' will be removed prompt from package manager does confuses many users. [13:43] pcman: we probably have this problem solved in the next days/weeks, with the official build [13:44] gilir: oh? [13:45] woahh so non selected lang packs gets deleted. nice [13:45] pcman: we will remove the hard depends between lubuntu-desktop and others packages [13:46] gilir, congrats!! [13:46] it was because our scripts use it to build ISO [15:14] awfully nice of omg to make the announcement for lubuntu http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-made-official-ubuntu-derivative/ [15:20] cjohnston: it was on the linux magazine 1st. The news broke yesterday, but Julien had not had chance to make a release note. [15:21] I see that too [15:21] Excellent news regardless as to how it was released :D [15:31] hello guys [15:32] i wanna install the last card driver the non-free one for ati readon any guid to recomend ?? tnx [16:26] I just tried apt-get update , it did not work, then I used KPackage kit/? and it did, Lubuntu 10.04, was I in error? [16:51] thanks and congrats all for helping us in bringing lubuntu official [17:04] CONGRATULATION GUYS === IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml [17:09] Congratz [17:57] hi [17:58] hi lubuntu [17:58] hi jonathan :) [17:58] booted from the live iso? [17:59] usb stick ;) [17:59] I'm installing on my notebook. [17:59] I installed yesterday [18:00] do you know how much of the cpu xorg usually takes? [18:00] I was trying casper but it doesn't work with lubuntu :'( and other flavours have graphic issue. [18:00] it's taking betwen 12 and 20% of my cpu constantly [18:01] that doesn't seem right [18:01] I don't know :( [18:03] tomorrow I need to install ubuntu on a 8-core with 48GB... I'm thinking about lubuntu with NIS and NFS :) [18:03] Oh, I have to restart... bye bye [18:03] bye [18:04] any developers around? [18:08] is ubuntu officially supporting lubuntu now? [18:09] no [18:09] 11.10 and on [18:09] ok [18:09] but it is in the works [18:09] yes [18:09] good === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [20:51] Howdy Salvatos ;) [20:51] Hi :) [20:52] Yet another good choice! [20:52] I'm looking for info but the site is loading incredibly slowly; I'm mostly wondering if I can run lubuntu on a persistent USB [20:55] Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE (And some change in default apps) so you can do it [20:55] !usb | Salvatos [20:55] Salvatos: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [20:56] Ah, thanks :) [20:56] I've tried PuppyLinux but it felt bloated, yet a bit limiting, so I'm looking for other options [20:57] Salvatos, I booted lubuntu CD, waited for desktop to load, insert usb stick in and install lubuntu into that stick [20:57] and remember to use ext2 with USB [20:58] I'm going to need to install directly on the USB, though, my CD burner is pretty much dead [20:59] that way I can even upgrade it without a problem [21:13] 64 bit.. yay [21:14] that site is giving it to me really slow [21:14] been leeching it for over 2 hours === szczur_ is now known as szczur [21:20] bioterror: From the torrent? [21:20] from that webpage [21:20] torrent could be faster by now [21:21] Unit193: is there a 64bit torrent yet? [21:21] yes [21:21] look for mailing list [21:21] if so I'll serve it [21:21] ok [21:23] I'll put ^C for the wget [21:25] who has access to add the link to the torrent on the site? === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [21:27] It's best to test it first (I would think so anyway) [21:28] true === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [21:46] bioterror: if the 64 bit checks out okay, pop it onto my server area. Thanks. [21:47] haaaa [21:47] torrent is even slower [21:47] maybe tomorrow then [22:17] it there a left-right audio balance app? [22:17] I haven't found the balance using alsamixer :( [22:18] Wouldn't it be the slider under the Front entry? [22:24] Salvatos, Front entry, <-- is that on the menu or panel or what? [22:25] Well as soon as I launch ALSA I get a bunch of possible outputs (Master, Headphones, PCM, Front, Surround...) [22:25] Each has a volume slider (vertical), and some have a balance slider underneath [22:26] oh wait! - Audacious has it built-in - doh! [22:26] how noob of me, my apologies [22:26] No problem :) === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [23:23] so I wrote a bash script that moves a rather lrge file over a slow network connection. does anyone know how I can get the script to open the gui 'moving file' dialogue that shows a progress meter? === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs