| ibeardslee | morning | 20:32 |
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| snail | morning | 20:35 |
| ojwb | morning | 20:44 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 20:51 |
| ajmitch | how annoying, it's bright & sunny this morning :) | 21:23 |
| olly | ajmitch: come visit wellington... | 21:26 |
| ajmitch | nah, I think I'll just put up with the monitor glare for now | 21:27 |
| ibeardslee | olly: there is blue sky here | 21:37 |
| ibeardslee | or maybe that's just a funny shade of grey | 21:38 |
| ojwb | hmm, if network manager brings the network up when the router isn't connected to the internet, it doesn't add any name servers to /etc/resolv.conf | 22:36 |
| ojwb | and when the internet comes up, it doesn't fix that | 22:36 |
| ojwb | so you have to bounce the network (or go and fix it by hand) | 22:36 |
| ojwb | is that really the intended behaviour? | 22:37 |
| * ajmitch thought it was dhclient that was adding the resolv.conf entries | 22:39 | |
| ojwb | $ head -n1 /etc/resolv.conf | 22:39 |
| ojwb | # Generated by NetworkManager | 22:39 |
| ajmitch | is the problem that it's getting an address via dhcp which has no name servers in the dhcp offer? | 22:39 |
| ojwb | presumably | 22:40 |
| ojwb | if the internet is up, I get two name servers at the ISP in there | 22:40 |
| ajmitch | I don't know if there'd be a sane way around that rather than it renewing the DHCP lease more often | 22:40 |
| ojwb | at least if there are no nameservers... | 22:40 |
| ojwb | without a nameserver, your internet experience is going to be somewhat reduced | 22:41 |
| ajmitch | marginally so, yes | 22:41 |
| * ojwb spots a neat hack | 22:42 | |
| ojwb | set resolv.conf to point to a dummy local nameserver | 22:42 |
| ojwb | if that gets a request, then check for connectivity, and if it's there, force a dhcp lease expiry | 22:42 |
| ajmitch | & avoid resolv.conf from being clobbered | 22:43 |
| ojwb | alternatively, just stick 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 in there if you've nothing else | 22:43 |
| ojwb | though there are privacy implications there which some might not like | 22:43 |
| ojwb | (those are google's public dns servers) | 22:44 |
| ajmitch | & they can have bad effects on CDNs that do geo-location based on DNS lookups | 22:44 |
| ojwb | that's really a flaw in such CDNs I'd say | 22:46 |
| ojwb | though it's the user who'll feel it directly | 22:46 |
| ojwb | handy way around geo-restrictions though! | 22:46 |
| ajmitch | though the ones that do restrictions tend to look up the requesting IP address rather than relying on DNS :) | 22:47 |
| ojwb | indeed | 22:47 |
| ajmitch | ssh tunnel to a linode vps running squid tends to help me there | 22:47 |
| Atamira | mornin | 23:42 |
| Atamira | we have beautiful blue sky and sun ! | 23:43 |
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