[08:16] <TLE> dpm: hey, any word from pitti?
[08:16] <TLE> and good morning
[08:21] <dpm> TLE, hey, morning, not yet, no. I sent him an e-mail yesterday night, as I couldn't catch him for a chat
[08:21] <TLE> dpm: let me know when you have something
[08:21] <dpm> TLE, ok, thanks for your help on this!
[08:22] <TLE> np
[08:23] <TLE> dpm: since a few teams have already tested the pang packs currently in the ppa, it is probably better if it is those that we puch to -proposed
[08:25] <dpm> TLE, yeah, that's the idea
[08:26] <TLE> ok, I just thought I would mention it, since if pitti is not made aware of it, he might just take the new ones that will be built really soon
[10:13] <andrejz> thanks for adding me in the team dpm, i wll try to contribute my share to success of ubuntu translations
[10:13] <dpm> \o/
[10:14] <dpm> excellent, thanks andrejz :)
[10:24] <TLE> congrats
[10:25] <TLE> ehh what team? *G*
[10:26] <TLE> ahh reading email ;)
[10:27] <TLE> Congratulations
[10:30] <TLE> dpm: btw, I was just reading that specification earlier. Does it concern only Ubuntu translations (which it says) or LP translations in general?
[10:33] <dpm> TLE, the spec is only for Ubuntu Translations, to ensure that we've got a healthy and self-sustainable project in which leadership is distributed, especially this cycle where I'll be spending less time on translations. Of course, it would be great to grow a developer community around Launchpad Translations, but that's out of scope for that particular spec.
[10:35] <TLE> ah ok, well I must say that I think this may be a little bit premature, at least as far as diverting you somewhat away from the effort, there is still much to do ;)
[10:38] <dpm> I know, I know :) We've got _a lot_ to do, but I'm really happy about how the translations community has evolved in the last couple of years
[10:39] <andrejz> so is there going to be a translators council (an equivalent of community council) ?
[10:39] <andrejz> i might be a bit late to the 15.00 session, unfortunately
[10:40] <RawChid> Hi, does anyone know where Xubuntu gets translated? The website says Launchpad, but I can't find where
[10:40] <RawChid> I want to help to get upstream translations from XFCE into Xubuntu
[10:41] <TLE> dpm: Well. It's just I think translations had, for some been before you were dedicated to the task, been sort of a second class citizen in terms of resources. And now that we have a person dedicated to it and with that a direct connection to developers and so on, I would really dislike going back :)
[10:44] <dpm> andrejz, I don't think we need a council for translations. Governance can be done either at the ubuntu-translators ML or through the ubuntu-translations-coordinators team
[10:45] <TLE> Besides, I think one persons salery (whatever that is) is a bargin for having good translations and a well running cummunity. But I sometimes get the idea that canonical don't quite agree
[10:45] <dpm> andrejz, one thing I forgot to mention is that after joining the ubuntu-translations-coordinators team you'll be automatically subscribed to bugs in the ubuntu-translations project. So you might want to set up some filters on your inbox
[10:46] <TLE> andrejz: yeah and you will also be tasked with baking cake and distributing it to the community every once in a while ;)
[10:46] <TLE> I like muffins
[10:49] <RawChid> Hmmmm... muffinnss...
[10:49] <RawChid> Nobody an idea about Xubuntu?
[10:51] <TLE> RawChid: hmm
[10:52] <TLE> RawChid: XFCE of xubuntu specifically?
[10:52] <RawChid> 11:40:35 < RawChid> I want to help to get upstream translations from XFCE into Xubuntu
[10:53] <RawChid> There is some work done on XFCE, so it would be nice to get that into Xubuntu
[10:54] <RawChid> The only thing I can find is source code, for example: https://code.launchpad.net/xfconf
[10:54] <TLE> I think upsteam work is automatically pulled into Xubuntu
[10:55] <RawChid> Hmm
[10:55] <RawChid> Yes, I guess so
[10:55] <TLE> I don't know if xubuntu devs make changes to the packages that require translation updates, like ubuntu dev does, but I don't think so
[10:55] <TLE> so I think the best to contribute is upstream
[10:57] <RawChid> Oke, thanx
[10:59] <dpm> RawChid, xubuntu is in the universe repository, so it's not translatable in Launchpad, unless they set up an upstream project there
[10:59] <Claudinux> hello, how upstream translations (e.g. from Translation Project) are loaded in ubuntu? I ask that because I upload the new translation of xchat  a year ago, but it's not yet included in ubuntu
[11:03] <TLE> afk lunch
[13:58] <yurchor> RawChid: Have you already found Xfce transifex server?
[13:58] <RawChid> Yes, I already solved it
[13:59] <RawChid> The translations are just pulled from transifex,
[13:59] <yurchor> Ok. Just read the logs and want to help. ;)
[13:59] <RawChid> translations are done upstream exclusively
[14:00] <RawChid> Thanks anyhow ;)
[14:00] <yurchor> Yes.
[14:00] <yurchor> np. ;)
[14:01] <artnay> wow, xfce using transifex
[14:01] <artnay> didn't know that
[14:01] <artnay> at least they didn't choose pootle ;-)
[14:01] <andrejz> has the session started yet?
[14:01] <TLE> andrejz: nope
[14:02] <andrejz> good :)
[14:04] <RawChid> Not yet
[15:12] <hannie> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-o-community-o-sustainable-translations
[15:12] <hannie> Where do I dind the irc channel of this session?
[15:12] <hannie> *find
[15:13] <TLE_Kenneth> hannie: just missed it
[15:13] <hannie> oh? Finished already?
[15:13] <TLE_Kenneth> it was exactly one hour ago in #ubutu-uds-krudy
[15:14] <TLE_Kenneth> sorry
[15:14] <hannie> ok, I thought it was at 15:00 utc
[15:14] <hannie> my mistake
[15:14] <TLE_Kenneth> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/community-o-sustainable-translations/
[15:14] <TLE_Kenneth> here are some notes from the meeting
[15:14] <hannie> thanks
[15:14] <TLE_Kenneth> and I guess you can also find IRC log online
[15:15] <hannie> right
[15:15] <TLE_Kenneth> we talked about how the community can take over some of David Planellas tasks and we also assigned some people for some of the tasks
[15:15] <TLE_Kenneth> but don't worry, we saved a few tasks for you ;)
[15:15] <hannie> ok, sorry I missed it though
[15:16] <TLE_Kenneth> yeah I know
[15:16] <hannie> Hope we can keep in touch via the mailing list
[15:17] <TLE_Kenneth> I'm just kidding about the tasks, but seriously if you were interested in helping out with something, I'm sure something will be communicated out seen
[15:18] <TLE_Kenneth> err: out soon
[15:18] <hannie> good old mailing list ;)
[15:18] <TLE_Kenneth> hannie: yep
[15:18] <hannie> see you, and thak you for your information
[15:18] <hannie> *thank
[15:18] <TLE_Kenneth> no probelm
[15:18] <TLE_Kenneth> dpm: hey
[15:19] <dpm> hey TLE_Kenneth
[15:19] <TLE_Kenneth> gotta change back it looks wierd
[15:19] <hannie> dpm, I just missed the session, but I hope you keep us informed through the list
[15:19] <dpm> hi back TLE :)
[15:20] <dpm> hannie, sure, I will do, don't worry. In the meantime here are the notes:
[15:20] <TLE> dpm: two things, any word from pitti? And can I apply to become member or the coordination group somehow
[15:20] <hannie> I just got them from TLE and will go through them
[15:21] <dpm> hannie, ah, cool, and  sorry for not having replied to your last e-mail, it's been a bit hectic here pre-UDS and while at UDS
[15:21] <hannie> no problem at all
[15:21] <dpm> hannie, we've had Dutch representation here too! :)
[15:21] <hannie> hope you enjoy the meeting
[15:22] <dpm> yeah, it was a really productive session
[15:22] <hannie> dpm, yes, I saw the name of one of my collegues
[15:22] <dpm> hannie, yeah, he told me you're doing an awesome job, btw :)
[15:22] <hannie> so does he ;)
[15:23] <hannie> and what you are doing for the community is beyond believe
[15:23] <dpm> TLE, 1) not yet, if he's busy we might have to wait post-UDS 2) Absolutely, let me send you an e-mail and follow the same process as with andrejz
[15:23] <TLE> I just lived in Leiden for a month, and made short trips to Ütrect (among other things), beatiful cities
[15:24] <hannie> TLE, glad you saw something else than Amsterdam
[15:24] <dpm> hannie, oh, thanks - it's easy to do good work when backed by an awesome community :)
[15:24] <hannie> ok guys, see you around. And have a nice stay there. Not too much beer
[15:25] <TLE> dpm: actually maybe 3 things, could you select some appropriate wikispace where we could document tasks and assignees and so on?
[15:27] <dpm> TLE, good point. Let me put an action item for me to do this on the notes...
[15:28] <TLE> dpm: you know, select the page name and put in a rough structure, then we should be able to help with filling in information
[15:40] <dpm> TLE, if you'd like to start right now so that I'm not blocking it, we could perhaps use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/SustainableTranslationsTasks. I haven't set up the structure yet, but I've put an action item on me on the notes
[15:41] <TLE> dpm: sure, not sure if I'll start right now, but there are a few things that I need to get written down soon anyway
[15:41] <dpm> TLE, cool, yeah, whichever way works best for you
[15:42] <dpm> hey seeing how folks have jumped in to help with tasks really shows what an awesome translations community we've got
[15:44] <TLE> yeah, just make sure to tell Mark not to cut your time any more ;) some tasks still require people with a more than sparetime
[15:46] <dpm> TLE, I know, I'm often using spare time myself :)
[15:46] <dpm> TLE, what's your LP id?
[15:47] <dpm> and to be clear, the translations time will not be cut by more than 50% (50% translations / 50% app developer community)
[15:49] <dpm> no worries, I found it
[18:53] <C1sM0> join #ubuntu-beginners